Tuesday, 2014-09-09

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openstackgerritTimothy Okwii proposed a change to openstack/swift: Fixed Typo - dictonary to dictionary  https://review.openstack.org/11996500:43
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zaitcevThat was quick.01:11
notmynamezaitcev: for merging that one? basically I didn't want you to have to spend any time on it :-)01:12
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mattoliverauNight all07:38
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openstackgerritAlistair Coles proposed a change to openstack/swift: Make probe tests tolerate deprecated policies  https://review.openstack.org/11979812:28
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notmynamegood morning14:56
mahaticgood morning!14:57
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portantegood morning15:01
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vr1good morning15:03
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notmynameso friendly this morning :-)15:11
tdasilvaeven portante is around :)15:13
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cdsis it possible to upgrade from an essex swift installation straight to icehouse?15:18
cdshow risky is that?15:18
notmynamecds: check out the CHANGELOG and look for mentions of config changes, especially any defaults changing. theoretically, it should work, but definitely do some practice runs on a test machine first :-)15:19
notmynameI'll be doing http://www.meetup.com/OpenStack-Online-Meetup/events/205356092/ in about 40 minutes15:21
* portante is getting around and rounder15:33
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Fixed Typo - dictonary to dictionary  https://review.openstack.org/11996515:50
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Mention storage backends in Associated Projects  https://review.openstack.org/11972415:52
acolescschwede_: thanks for review of 86430, I just replied to queries - if you think I shoudl change the commit message let me know and I will15:53
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mahaticnotmyname, Thank you for the session. If not a whole lot of knowledge, atleast i understood why i have object-1 along with object :D16:53
notmynamemahatic: :-)16:53
cpenyes, thanks notmyname.  great preso16:54
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notmynamecpen: thanks17:12
* notmyname is going offline for a couple of hours17:13
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hurricanerixcschwede_: I responded to your comments on my FormPOST fix.  If there is still confusion, let me know and we can talk about it some.17:20
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mahatictorgomatic, i don't quite understand how to proceed on the patch. How about labeling it as sdb1 (as an example) in the doc?18:12
torgomaticmahatic: I feel that would defeat the purpose18:12
mahatictorgomatic, and then ask the user to name appropriately? or you say edit the whole doc and replace the mount points too?18:15
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torgomaticmahatic: the latter; replace the mount points. that's what you'd do if you were using labels in a real deployment.18:15
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mahatictorgomatic, okay18:35
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dmsimardShould swift proxies return XML when you send a header "Accept: application/xml" with an API call ?18:53
mahatictorgomatic, just to clarify, the device label name and the mount point node name will be similar now?18:53
dmsimardOr would that be an argument in the API call18:53
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openstackgerritDavid Goetz proposed a change to openstack/swift: Delete expired objects in slightly smarter way.  https://review.openstack.org/11843418:54
torgomaticmahatic: that's what I'd prefer, yes... others may have their own opinions, but that's what makes sense to me18:54
torgomaticdmsimard: the Accept header will work for account and container listing requests18:55
dmsimardtorgomatic: Thanks. Trying to find that in the documentation, have a hint ?18:55
torgomaticdmsimard: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-object-storage/1.0/content/GET_showContainerDetails__v1__account___container__storage_container_services.html18:56
torgomaticsearch for "Accept"18:56
dfgso like- what does hitting rebase accidentally on the gerrit page do?18:56
dmsimardtorgomatic: Looks good to me. Are those the only calls that are able to return XML ?18:57
dmsimard(This isn't for me, it's for a closed source application..)18:57
dmsimardCause, you know, why use XML when you got JSON :D18:57
torgomaticdmsimard: yep. object GETs respond with the object data, so you can send any Accept header you want, but Swift isn't changing the bytes you put in18:57
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torgomatichypothetically we could someday possibly look at supporting XML for GET /info, but I have yet to find anyone who cares enough to put in the work ;)18:58
torgomaticdmsimard: one thing to note: error responses aren't XML-ified, so check for 2xx status code prior to firing up the XML parser18:58
dmsimardInstead of sending Accept: Application/XML, ?format=xml is essentially the same thing for these calls ?18:59
dmsimardOr is format=xml for other calls18:59
torgomaticdmsimard: yes, they do the same thing18:59
torgomaticif you send "Accept: application/xml" with ?format=json, they fight it out and one wins... or maybe you get a cat video. Not sure.18:59
dmsimardI'd love a cat video.19:00
dmsimardThanks.19:00
dmsimard:D19:00
torgomaticdmsimard: careful, that's how you wind up subscribed to Cat Facts ;)19:01
dmsimardOh, hey, one last thing19:02
dmsimardThis company pretends that they were able to authenticate and get an XML response back.19:02
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dmsimardRight now the authentication returns JSON even with application/xml as a header.19:03
torgomaticdmsimard: take it up with the auth system... I think the Keystone catalog is always JSON, but I could easily be wrong19:04
torgomaticand tempauth returns an empty response body19:04
dmsimardIt was against an old keystone, like folsom19:05
dmsimardI'll try and check.19:05
torgomaticdmsimard: yeah, that's not something I've ever used... maybe ask in #openstack-dev or #openstack-keystone?19:05
morganfainbergdmsimard, there was other xml support way back in the day.19:05
morganfainbergdmsimard, not sure how widespread it was or how well it worked19:05
mahatictorgomatic, also, i didn't understand the last part of your comment - " particularly if devices get reordered so /dev/sdq1 is now mounted at /srv/node/sdb1." does it convey the same?19:06
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torgomaticmahatic: that was an argument against using block-device names as mount points is all19:06
mahatictorgomatic, okay. And, you said the ring still contains block device names. I don't see where.19:10
mahatictorgomatic, sorry, i find it a bit confusing19:10
mahatictorgomatic, I mean, "swift-ring-builder account.builder add z$ZONE-$STORAGE_LOCAL_NET_IP:6002/$DEVICE $WEIGHT"19:11
mahatictorgomatic, in there, can i just swap the $DEVICE to a label? (while exporting)19:11
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zaitcevnotmyname: Had a thought about releasing swiftclient 2.1.1 or something? It would make it easier for me to release Kodiak's fix. Just curious, no big deal.20:14
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ekarlso-hey guys20:53
ekarlso-how do I best setup swift-proxy behind ssl ?20:53
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torgomaticmahatic: yes, that's what I was getting at21:19
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mattoliverauMorning all21:52
torgomatichi21:53
NMHey guys. Should swift api forbid  directories with just a period (.) at the name? One with my clients did that using swift browser.21:56
torgomaticNM: short answer: no21:57
torgomaticlong answer: an object name is any valid UTF-8 string. A container or account name is any valid UTF-8 string without slashes (I think)21:58
NMtorgomatic: short acknowledge: thanks21:58
torgomaticand if we want to get technical (and I always do), it's any *non-empty* UTF-8 string up to a particular length21:58
NMI see. I think that period or two periods may be confusing for browsers and stuff.22:01
NMSomeone could use it to generate some chaos.22:01
notmynameNM: the name_check middleware was written to provide a way to prevent that sort of thing22:01
notmynameNM: but also, don't trust user-generated content, including object names22:01
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notmynameNM: eg, I could name an object "rm -rf /dev/". you don't want to pass that to bash in a loop in a shell script22:02
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/swift: Fix directory value for compile_catalog  https://review.openstack.org/11998422:04
NMI didn't know about this middleware. I'll do some search about it.22:06
NMnotmyname:22:09
NMnotmyname: torgomatic:  thanks guys :)22:09
notmynameNM: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/middleware.html#module-swift.common.middleware.name_check22:09
zaitcevisn't it too late to add a production cluster?22:09
notmynamezaitcev: yeah, I'd think so22:10
torgomaticdepends on whether or not you can badger your users into changing their object names, I suppose22:13
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dmsimardbadger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom22:35
dmsimard^ late, but was deemed necessary22:35
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notmynamesaw something on twitter this morning saying that HGST has some new storage box/enclosure/something that will allow 10PB per rack23:31
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