Friday, 2015-06-19

jeblairi had an emergency come up and have not made much progress on the docs page00:03
jeblairthough i have a lot of good notes00:03
jeblairi'm going to release the lock on that, and if someone claims it and writes it, that's great.  i'll be able to provide some feedback based on the notes i have00:04
jeblairif not, i'll pick it up tomorrow00:04
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ttxgood morning06:34
ttxPushed https://review.openstack.org/193505 for release management. I left the library release part as an exercise for dhellmann11:47
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mesteryttx: addressing comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193163/ now13:17
mesteryttx: for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193233/, I can take another stab at adding some of those things in there unless you have a patch built on top of that already13:17
mesterylet me know13:17
ttxmestery: nope, no patch yet13:21
mesteryttx: new version of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193163/ pushed13:25
ttxmestery: you left a mention to "Open Source At the Core" on line 15... Is that intentional ?13:39
mesteryttx: bleah, likely not, I'll re-review, working on 193233 at the moment13:39
ttxok, will leave a comment then13:39
mesterythanks!13:40
ttxmestery: answered your comment https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193505/ -- I still think mentioning a "6-month development cycle" is accurate.13:44
mesteryttx: Ack, that makes sense to me, thanks for the explanation! +2 :)13:45
mesteryttx: Rolled new version of both patches, thanks for the reviews!13:54
ttxCurrent status: drinking a beer in the Bexar Summit collector beer glass14:44
mesteryttx: Nice! My oldest glass is the HP Cloud Services one from Essex Summit :)15:04
mesteryjeblair: Should I just remove the detailed "how to add your blog" part and link to the wiki page there for now?15:05
ttxI also own a collector "diablo release contributor" glass star15:14
jeblairmestery: that works too15:14
ttxI'll make a fortune on EBay one day15:14
mesterylol15:14
mesteryjeblair: Ack, will give that a shot15:15
jeblairttx: i made a suggestion on 193474 that you move the "how to cherry-pick stable fixes" section to infra-manual15:15
ttxyes, we'll need to do an "avoid duplication" pass. I think there are a few things in the infra manual that may make sense here instead, too15:15
jeblair(but otherwise looks good)15:16
ttxjeblair: I think the bar should be when it becomes an implementation detail15:16
ttx(am experiencing network issues for the last hour, so if I disappear don't be surprised)15:17
jeblairttx: heh, actually the backport thing is _not in_ the infra-manual right now, so it's not so much duplication as "omg there's a missing section in the infra-manual" :)15:17
ttxhaha15:18
ttxin other news, anothert article on LWN about openstack15:19
ttxlooks like they are gearing up to support us15:19
jeblairttx: i think that's a good guideline; i also think of it in terms of audiences "people starting a new openstack project" / "developers trying to use the system".  also "what we do and why we do it" / "how we do it".15:19
ttxyeah, it will take some time adjusting. At this point I'm more "pushing content" phase15:20
jeblairoh neat, i'll go read lwn over breakfast :)15:20
ttxthey covered the stable point t15:20
ttxrelease thread last week15:20
ttxand this week the fuel/puppet one15:20
mesterynice15:21
* dhellmann keeps getting distracted from reviewing ttx's release chapter15:38
dhellmannttx: you say we should increase the Y part of the version after the stable branch is cut. We may also choose to increase the major version in some cases, right?15:43
ttxdhellmann: oh, yes. Good catch15:47
ttxY or X.15:47
dhellmannttx: ok, I'll patch that when I add the stuff about libraries15:47
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fungimmmvulnerability management chapter15:48
* fungi catches up15:48
ttxfungi: see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-team-guide15:49
ttxI won't have time to work on it in-sprint, so feel free to steal15:50
fungiyep, i already pulled it up, because i pay attention to channel topics ;_15:50
fungi;)15:50
ttxmy day ends in 10 min15:51
fungiyour _week_ ends in 10 min15:51
fungithe wine should already be breathing15:51
dhellmannttx: I updated https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193270/ based on your feedback15:51
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jeblairi'm looking at the text i have just typed "OpenStack projects should " and can't think of what to type next.  the choices are boundless.20:30
dhellmannjeblair: try to work in something about ponies?20:40
jeblairdhellmann: maybe i will and see if anyone catches it ;)20:43
dhellmannjeblair: +220:43
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fungifinally got on a roll with the vulnerability management chapter but need to go get dinner before i finish it. https://review.openstack.org/193733 is wip for the moment21:40
jeblairi pushed up a docs page, but honestly, it's not great.  i think we should ask a docs person to see what else they want to cover, and whether they want to move or copy anything currently in the wiki to it.22:30
jeblairbut we at least have something there, even if it's a stub: https://review.openstack.org/19374322:31
fungithe worse it is, the more motivated they'll be to correct it23:52

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