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| ttx | Good morning everyone | 06:52 |
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| ttx | and welcome to the Project Team Guide sprint | 06:52 |
| ttx | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VirtualSprints#OpenStack_Project_Team_Guide | 06:52 |
| ttx | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-team-guide | 06:53 |
| flaper87 | ttx: gooooood morning | 07:18 |
| ttx | flaper87: ohai | 07:20 |
| ttx | should be in full speed writing more in about an hour | 07:21 |
| ttx | ok, time to grab coffee | 08:21 |
| ttx | Intro chapter @ https://review.openstack.org/193039 | 09:47 |
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| ttx | Open Design chapter @ https://review.openstack.org/193116 | 13:08 |
| * mestery pops in to sprint and review | 13:37 | |
| mestery | ttx: I posted some comments on your two reviews above. | 13:58 |
| mestery | I'm tackling "Open Source" and "Open Community" now | 13:58 |
| * mestery puts on writing hat | 13:58 | |
| ttx | cool | 14:00 |
| ttx | won't be around much for the rest of today due to meetings + evening | 14:03 |
| ttx | pretty happy of how much "common culture" this ends up documenting. I have the feeling this work will be useful | 14:04 |
| mestery | +100 | 14:05 |
| mestery | I'm extremely happy to see this all documented! Thanks for setting up the sprint! | 14:05 |
| mestery | I plan to spend 2-3 hours on it today | 14:05 |
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| jeblair | i'll start on the qa/ci stuff | 14:39 |
| mestery | Open Source chapter @ https://review.openstack.org/193163 | 14:56 |
| ttx | bbl | 15:00 |
| jeblair | flaper87: i think i may end up back-linking to your section on review guidelines eventually (after you write it), since there's some overlap with testing (where i'm mentioning project gating) | 15:57 |
| jeblair | we might want to link the other way too. but we can take care of that after we write our respective sections :) | 15:57 |
| jeblair | testing is at: https://review.openstack.org/193191 | 16:13 |
| jeblair | i still need to add some text about ER/logstash/gate failures, etc. but i think the narrative about what testing, why, and how is there. | 16:14 |
| jeblair | let me know if i've missed something (i'm sure i have) | 16:14 |
| flaper87 | jeblair: that sounds good, I started it but I wasn't able to dedicate as much time to it today as I'd have liked. I'll have something tomorrow | 16:19 |
| jeblair | flaper87: cool, np. I put a TODO in mine to remind us to cross-link when we have targets | 16:22 |
| * jeblair takes a short break | 16:23 | |
| jeblair | okay, updated that change to include a really short section on failures. that's starting to get pretty technical, so i want to link out to other docs quickly. | 17:33 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: are you planning on doing the oslo section? | 17:34 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: I can work on that, let me catch up now that I'm actually online | 17:41 |
| jeblair | dhellmann: ok, np | 17:43 |
| jeblair | this is intimidating: i'm going to try to write docs. about writing docs. without annegentle's help. | 17:48 |
| * jeblair claims the docs chapter | 17:49 | |
| mestery | Initial "Open Community" chapter: https://review.openstack.org/193233 | 17:52 |
| mestery | dhellmann: I just merged ttx's "Open Design" review, not worth holding up on my -1, I'll submit a followup with my idea there. | 18:05 |
| dhellmann | mestery: sounds good | 18:05 |
| dhellmann | mestery: I'm noticing your link styling in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/193233/1/doc/source/open-community.rst,cm with MailingLists for example. Is that a standard we're using in this guide, or can we make it `mailing lists`_ instead? | 18:17 |
| mestery | dhellmann: I'll adapt, thanks for the pointer! | 18:18 |
| mestery | dhellmann: I just pushed a new version of 193163 addressing yoru comments as well, thanks for the review! | 18:18 |
| dhellmann | mestery: looking | 18:19 |
| jeblair | heh, i'm still on the first revision :) | 18:19 |
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| dhellmann | mestery: +2 on the new draft | 18:21 |
| mestery | dhellmann: thanks! and bummer on the crappy wifi :) | 18:21 |
| dhellmann | yeah, it just means gerrit is very slow for me | 18:21 |
| jeblair | mestery: i left some comments on your change | 18:23 |
| mestery | jeblair: Ack, will review them, thanks! | 18:23 |
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| jeblair | mestery: the open source page looks good, but i left a nit about the link syntax | 18:29 |
| mestery | jeblair: cool! I'll address that too, digesting all the comments. Thanks for the reviews! | 18:30 |
| * ttx waves | 18:33 | |
| * jeblair waves at ttx | 18:34 | |
| ttx | Cool to see the sprint in full swing. i'll likely pick up the pieces tomorrow morning and review everything | 18:35 |
| dhellmann | how much do we want to say in the oslo chapter? | 18:35 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the audience is non-Oslo project teams | 18:36 |
| ttx | so all the things you'd like random project teams to know about oslo | 18:36 |
| dhellmann | so, what it is and please use it? | 18:36 |
| dhellmann | k | 18:37 |
| dhellmann | I'll ping dims, too | 18:37 |
| ttx | anything you need urgent help / advice for ? | 18:38 |
| mestery | nothing from me, I'll look for your reviews tomorrow ttx | 18:40 |
| mestery | :) | 18:40 |
| mestery | jeblair dhellmann: All comments addressed, links cleaned up, new verisons pushed. | 18:40 |
| jeblair | woo | 18:40 |
| ttx | feels like we should have done that a long time ago | 18:41 |
| jeblair | ttx: well, we used to think wikis were cool :) | 18:44 |
| mestery | lol | 18:44 |
| ttx | I hesitated to sprinkle wiki diff references all over my intro but decided not to | 18:44 |
| mestery | I spent part of Kilo moving a good amount of Neutron's documentation in-tree :) | 18:44 |
| ttx | I did some research to get the dates right though | 18:44 |
| jeblair | ttx: i was impressed! | 18:45 |
| ttx | it was not exactly as I remembered it. Didn't remember that PTLs were appointed | 18:45 |
| ttx | we came a long way | 18:45 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I never knew the PTLs were appointed | 18:47 |
| ttx | That's why a bit of history never hurts | 18:48 |
| ttx | tried to make it as objective as possible | 18:48 |
| mestery | think you succeeded quite well ttx | 18:52 |
| dhellmann | inspired by ttx, I found some of the history from the talk markmc and I gave in paris and added it to the oslo chapter: https://review.openstack.org/193270 | 19:31 |
| mestery | pleia2: thanks for the reviews! | 19:37 |
| pleia2 | mestery: you're welcome, nice work on the content, valuable stuff :) | 19:38 |
| mestery | pleia2: thanks! | 19:38 |
| mestery | pleia2: D'oh! Fixed those broken links. Good catch :) | 19:48 |
| pleia2 | fun with documentation syntax | 19:49 |
| pleia2 | mestery: same on 193233 with the new irc channel logging link | 19:53 |
| mestery | pleia2: D'oh! Done :) | 19:54 |
| pleia2 | thanks! | 19:54 |
| mestery | thank you! | 19:54 |
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| jeblair | did we end up deciding on a tense? i think we all may have just ended up writing in 3rd person "openstack projects should....". I think 2nd person could be an option "your project should", but i don't think we did that.... | 22:13 |
| jeblair | (i just found myself writing a 2nd person sentence and stopped myself) | 22:13 |
| jeblair | probably worth making a concious decision on at some point :) | 22:14 |
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