Thursday, 2020-01-23

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openstackgerritBram Verschueren proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: Add os_routers_info module
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openstackgerritBram Verschueren proposed openstack/ansible-collections-openstack master: fix os_user_role for groups in multidomain context
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elmikodtantsur: is there another ansible meeting during the office hour today?10:56
dtantsurelmiko: probably? sshnaidm?11:25
sshnaidmelmiko, dtantsur I think as usual, ansible-sig mtg11:26
sshnaidmI'll start it anyway, if no participants will close, 16.00 UTC11:26
elmikothanks dtantsur and sshnaidm11:26
dtantsurelmiko: did you want to discuss anything re API SIG?11:27
elmikoi am travelling currently and i might not be able to be around for the meeting11:27
elmikono, i don't think i have any specific topics11:27
sshnaidmif you're here, please vote :)
elmikoi /still/ would like to get back to a few PRs for the guidelines, but i have not found any spare time11:28
elmikobbl o/11:33
dtantsurmordred, gtema, when you have time, a very simple CI fix:
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sshnaidmdtantsur, how do I make clean node with SDK? that's all I found:
dtantsursshnaidm: you mean, run cleaning? what exactly are you trying?12:09
sshnaidmdtantsur, run cleaning, yes12:09
dtantsursshnaidm: this is the call to run manual cleaning, yes. I can help you more if you tell me the context.12:10
sshnaidmdtantsur, I think I need a parallel to "openstack baremetal node clean "12:10
dtantsursshnaidm: okay, so do set_node_provision_state('clean', clean_steps=...)12:10
dtantsureeehhmm, missed a node, but I think you get an idea12:11
dtantsursshnaidm: you can ping me for any related reviews (it's actually quite encouraged)12:14
sshnaidmdtantsur, ack, preparing now ansible module for that in tripleo12:15
dtantsursshnaidm: they it's even more encouraged (tripleo has a.. hmm.. known track of misunderstanding ironic ;)12:15
sshnaidmdtantsur, traditions12:16
sshnaidmdtantsur, it's everything :)12:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/openstacksdk master: Use the bifrost bionic CI job
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openstackgerritHervé Beraud proposed openstack/python-openstackclient master: Incorrect title for service provider
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sshnaidmwhoever is available for ansible sig meeting, in 2 minutes15:59
dtantsurin another meeting, but lurking15:59
sshnaidmdtantsur, mordred gtema odyssey4me mnaser16:00
sshnaidmjust pinging all from etherpad16:00
sshnaidmdtantsur, ack16:00
sshnaidm#startmeeting api-sig16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 23 16:00:48 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sshnaidm. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'api_sig'16:00
odyssey4meheh, somehow I'm in three meetings at once :)16:00
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sshnaidmwho is available?16:01
sshnaidmif there are conflict we can change time meeting16:01
dtantsurI'd prefer to, to be honest16:01
dtantsurand since we're occupying the API SIG slot, we should probably set up a special meeting for our working group16:01
sshnaidmok, will create a poll in etherpad about a new time16:01
dtantsuran hour earlier later would work for me, for example16:02
dtantsur* or later16:02
dtantsursshnaidm: you can start a doodle or similar16:02
sshnaidmdtantsur, yeah, good idea16:02
odyssey4meyeah, or we could agree on a SIG meeting time... when trying to get done I couldn't find an appropriate set time for the SIG to set the  schedule16:02
dtantsurodyssey4me: if we don't use one of the meeting channels, we can probably use any time that works for us16:03
sshnaidmok, we'll see in doodle which is best16:03
odyssey4medtantsur: yep, easy enough - I just wanted to make it easy to communicate and get updates16:03
sshnaidm#action sshnaidm to choose better time for sig meeting16:03
sshnaidmSo, as you can know from openstack-discuss list the tranisition is in the progress. Tracking of it is in our etherpad:
sshnaidmIn these weeks I'd ask everybody for reviewes asap not to block peoples workflow, please. Take a look:
sshnaidmWe have in CI the same job that was running before in Ansible PRs, so we're covered at least the same as before now.16:04
sshnaidm went over all PRs in github for OS ansible modules and left a message about tranistion, but it can be still merges. We'll sync all things when modules will be removed from 2.10 completely. It will happen in next 3 weeks when ansible folks fix their sync of docs from collections.16:04
sshnaidmMeanwhile I'll prepare these PRs in ansible github.16:04
sshnaidmThere are some issues with collection names and using them in roles/playbooks, so we'll need to mention the full collection names for now, "FQCN"16:05
sshnaidmgtema, to your question ^16:06
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gtemayupp. But I think once modules are removed in ansible it is fine16:06
sshnaidmgtema, in 2.10 only though16:07
gtemaI think we also need to agree to accept new modules WITHOUT os_ prefix16:07
sshnaidmgtema, yeah, so another requirement from ansible team was not renaming till 2.1116:07
sshnaidmsince it can cause problems with collection and their usage, which may change any time16:08
gtemaalso I will revive mordred's patch for implementing base Module class in the module_utils, it makes life easier (did this for my own collection same)16:08
sshnaidmI think we can wait a little with renaming16:08
sshnaidmgtema, yeah, just need to rebase it16:08
gtemasshnaidm: ansuble guys want that in our repo we do not rename modules?16:08
gtemai thought it was ok with BOTMETA16:08
sshnaidmwe are good now to develop new modules, we already have a few in reviews16:09
sshnaidmgtema, it's not so easy, turns out, and things are changing fast there16:09
gtemacrap, it's like with Openshift - things are changing and thus no release possible. What are you doing there at RedHat ;-)16:10
sshnaidmjust talked this week with bcoca, Paul, gundalow on ansible-devel and to be safe it's worth to wait with renaming16:10
gtemathat's for sure16:10
sshnaidmgtema, yeah, it's our main purpose here :D16:10
gtemaok, but then let's agree on accepting new modules without prefix16:10
gtemayou drink, and I am dying 4th day already16:11
sshnaidmgtema, I'm not sure if it worth it, when finally renaming we can do it in bulk16:11
odyssey4mesounds sensible to me, I guess the ask for preventing renames for a while is to allow a deprecation period16:11
odyssey4meif the deprecation notice is up, but new modules don't have the prefix - then we're good16:11
sshnaidmgtema, and to have it with os_ is keeping consistency16:11
gtemaok, #agreed16:12
sshnaidmso that all I have from ansible team for now16:12
gtemawhat about release jobs?16:13
sshnaidmwe're good to add more tests, more jobs16:13
sshnaidmgtema, yeah, good point16:13
gtemaI would be happy to start consuming collection from my projects16:13
sshnaidmI stole a pushing job from Paul and working on it16:13
sshnaidmneed to ping mordred about pushing to galaxy, because he has the access only16:13
sshnaidmmaybe it's worth even to push what we have now and then to do it with releases and push-job16:14
sshnaidmI'm only for early usage to see if everything is ok, etc16:14
sshnaidm#action sshnaidm to add a publishing job16:15
sshnaidm#action mordred to publish collection or to share access for galaxy namespace16:16
gtemayeah, the interesting issue I found using collection on galaxy - you can't update/delete pushes16:16
gtemaso whatever we push - stay there with this name forever16:16
sshnaidmgtema, yeah, you need a new version16:16
gtemaor at least until you redhat guys drink another beer16:16
gtemaI know about new ver, I mean before pushing you really need to be sure it works16:17
sshnaidmgtema, you can submit issues for galaxy, btw, I submitted one about editing namespace and it was solved16:17
gtemaoh yes, suprisingly. You also need to open issue to add maintainers to your org, ...16:18
gtemaand lot's of things are "undocumented"16:18
sshnaidmgtema, you can add them, I did16:18
gtemaso my life is great16:18
sshnaidmno need to open issue for that16:18
gtemaI do not see any other candidate users to add, only some "preconfigured" roots or so16:19
sshnaidmgtema, try on #ansible-galaxy16:19
gtemayeah, when I will have time for that16:19
sshnaidmchouseknecht is the guy16:20
sshnaidmok, is there something about new fancy ansible modules for openstack you wanna talk more?16:20
gtemanope, I would be offering one more for volume backups16:20
sshnaidmgtema, great16:21
dtantsurI guess sshnaidm is developing ironic stuff?16:21
dtantsur(and we need to sync on that one day)16:21
sshnaidmdtantsur, right, looking at node cleaning module now16:21
sshnaidmdtantsur, yep, will ping you when have something16:21
dtantsurI wonder if we need a spec-like or RFE-like process from now on16:21
sshnaidmdtantsur, and I need a way to test it and better w/o devstack16:21
dtantsurto have some formal discussion about interfaces rather than just landing whatever looks sane16:21
dtantsursshnaidm: w/o devstack - tripleo undercloud?16:22
sshnaidmdtantsur, even better just ironic standalone16:22
dtantsurbifrost? ;)16:22
sshnaidmdtantsur, just container with ironic? like ironic-dev I had16:22
dtantsurinstalling ironic is easy, it's harder when you need it to actually DO anything16:23
sshnaidmdtantsur, but I couldn't auth with it and current Openstack ansible auth16:23
dtantsurthe current openstack ansible auth is broken for at least some cases16:23
dtantsura VM with bifrost (we have vagrant support) can be more helpful16:23
sshnaidmdtantsur, yeah, so maybe we can find a way, but if not - tripleo standalone job then :)16:23
dtantsuror that (although it won't allow you to actually do things with VMs)16:24
sshnaidmdtantsur, well, I can't run vm16:24
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sshnaidmdtantsur, we don't have nested on upstream clouds16:24
dtantsurokay, we can discuss it outside of the meetings16:24
dtantsurI meant your laptop :)16:24
sshnaidmdtantsur, cool16:24
dtantsursshnaidm: and FWIW I do use devstack on a VM in RDO cloud. it works.16:24
sshnaidmdtantsur, rdo cloud is different story :)16:25
dtantsurokay, we can discuss ironic stuffs on #openstack-ironic, I won't hold the meeting16:25
sshnaidmok, let's take it offline then16:25
sshnaidmok, if nothing else...16:25
dtantsurnot entirely offline unless you want to come to DUS for some Altbier ;)16:25
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* dtantsur doesn't mind that at all16:26
gtemaoh, Altbier .....16:26
sshnaidmdtantsur, Altbier sounds great..16:26
dtantsursee, we can have a small meetup!16:26
sshnaidmdtantsur, need to visit your city someday, that's for sure16:26
gtemaare you also in Germany?16:26
dtantsurI may even be able to organize a small room in the office here16:27
dtantsuresp. if done in advance16:27
sshnaidmgtema, no, unfortunately16:27
sshnaidmdtantsur, I think some biergarten will be ok too16:27
dtantsurwe even have breweries downtown16:28
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sshnaidmdtantsur, you mean Berlin, right?16:29
dtantsursshnaidm: I'm in Düsseldorf nowadays, hence Altbier16:29
sshnaidmdtantsur, oh, I see16:29
dtantsurThere is local beer in Berlin, I'm not sure it's worth drinking :)16:29
* sshnaidm adding Duss to to_visit list16:30
* sshnaidm | tee to_drink list16:30
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dtantsursshnaidm: you can do Cologne and Düsseldorf in one shot, essentially, because of how close they are (30 mins by local train)16:30
dtantsur(and Bonn, and a few smaller cities)16:31
sshnaidmdtantsur, looks like a challenge for a "digital nomad"16:31
sshnaidmI suppose need to wait till spring with it16:33
sshnaidmI survived even Laplands winter16:33
dtantsurnice! I would totally try that16:33
sshnaidmjust -3016:33
dtantsurnot bad, I used to go to the university when it was -36. by foot because trains broke down.16:34
sshnaidmdtantsur, you need to change nick to "lomonosov" then :D16:34
gtemahehe, sounds familiar, but in the last 10 years not experienced anything lower -1016:34
gtemathis shitty west german winter16:36
sshnaidmgtema, at least you have below 016:36
gtemaeh, only few nights during winter16:37
gtemathe only "white" outside is a fog - everything is white and you can't literaly see your nose16:37
dtantsursshnaidm: we have just above 0, not the best weather16:40
sshnaidmaround 0 is the worst weather I can imagine, everything is half melted, snow with soil..16:46
sshnaidmand everything is like ice hockey field in the morning16:47
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dtantsurfortunately, it's quite dry here16:48
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