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| tpatil | #startmeeting Masakari | 04:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 04:00:13 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is tpatil. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Roll Call | 04:00 |
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| tpatil | #topic: Roll Call | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Roll Call (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:01 | |
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| tpatil | Note to everyone: If you want your patches to get merge in U release, please add the list of patches in etherpad below: | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | #link : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-u-workitems | 04:07 |
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| shilpasd | GM Tushar san, sorry for delay | 04:10 |
| tpatil | shilpasd: Hi | 04:10 |
| tpatil | shilpasd: Do you have any patches for review? | 04:11 |
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| tpatil | if yes, please add them in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-u-workitems | 04:12 |
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| shilpasd47 | sorry some connection issue at my end | 04:13 |
| shilpasd47 | okay will list into etherpad | 04:14 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: No problem. | 04:14 |
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| tpatil | I will prioritize the patches that should be merged in U release and spend some time reviewing those accordingly | 04:15 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: okay, thank you | 04:15 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Do you have any points for discussion? If no, let's end this meeting early as no one else has joined this time. | 04:16 |
| shilpasd47 | just one query, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704811/, here we are waiting for the approach to finalize | 04:16 |
| shilpasd47 | patch is related to 'Add new filter `host_name` to segment list' | 04:16 |
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| tpatil | I have discussed this point in the last meeting and awaiting Sampath san to reply back. | 04:17 |
| shilpasd47 | okay my miss, thank you | 04:17 |
| tpatil | there are two choices | 04:17 |
| tpatil | 1. Go ahead with the changes you have proposed | 04:17 |
| tpatil | 2. introduce a new Rest API ``GET /hosts`` | 04:18 |
| suzhengwei__ | sorry for late. | 04:18 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Hi | 04:18 |
| suzhengwei__ | hi | 04:18 |
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| shilpasd47 | suzhengwei__: Hi | 04:19 |
| tpatil | #topic: Critical Bugs | 04:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ": Critical Bugs (Meeting topic: Masakari)" | 04:19 | |
| tpatil | #link : https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1858762 | 04:19 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1858762 in masakari "“UNKNOWN” host_status notification may cause unsafe evacuation" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Shilpa Devharakar (shilpasd) | 04:19 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Do you have any update about this bug? | 04:20 |
| shilpasd47 | will push changes today to community for this | 04:20 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Ok | 04:20 |
| tpatil | Any other bugs you want to discuss here? | 04:20 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: no | 04:21 |
| suzhengwei__ | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702328/ | 04:21 |
| suzhengwei__ | tpatil: woud you like to give a review o this simple patch? | 04:22 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Sure, I will review it | 04:22 |
| suzhengwei__ | thanks | 04:22 |
| tpatil | In the beginning of this meeting, I have added a note asking people to add patches that they want to see in U release. | 04:23 |
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| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Could you please add the patches to want to see land in U release in below etherpad: | 04:23 |
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| suzhengwei__ | ok | 04:24 |
| tpatil | #link : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-u-workitems | 04:24 |
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| tpatil | suzhengwei__: The above patch looks simple but it's missing unit tests. Can you please add unit tests for your changes? | 04:25 |
| suzhengwei__ | I will. My own CI workflow is broken, I need to fix it first. | 04:26 |
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| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Ok, No problem | 04:27 |
| tpatil | Moving to the next topic | 04:27 |
| tpatil | #topic Work Items for Ussuri | 04:28 |
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| tpatil | suzhengwei__: I forgot to mention about patch : https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708325/ | 04:28 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Changes looks good. Need unit tests so that we can merge it patch soon | 04:29 |
| suzhengwei__ | ok, i will add unit tests later. | 04:30 |
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| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Ok, Thanks | 04:31 |
| tpatil | Enable/Disable evacuation segment wise | 04:32 |
| tpatil | specs: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705893/ | 04:32 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: there are few review comments by Toshikazu Kazu Ichikawa, will address and push the updated path, further please review | 04:33 |
| tpatil | Still I need to review the updated specs, sorry the delay | 04:33 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: i know your are super busy, so pl no sorry | 04:34 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: This is different spec I'm talking about | 04:34 |
| tpatil | proposed by suzhengwei__ | 04:34 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: okay, we switched... | 04:34 |
| shilpasd47 | sorry, i got confused | 04:35 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei__: I will this specs soon | 04:36 |
| suzhengwei__ | thx | 04:36 |
| suzhengwei__ | I have update code for this spec, but because my own ci workflow, it still failed. | 04:36 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Ok, Got it. I will see that this spec and implementation gets merged in U release. | 04:37 |
| suzhengwei__ | function test is rely on openstackSDK, so function test will be add in next V branch. | 04:37 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Only rest API will go in this cycle and you plan to work on OpenStackSDK in next cycle, is it correct? | 04:38 |
| suzhengwei__ | yes. | 04:38 |
| suzhengwei__ | not enough time left for U release. | 04:39 |
| tpatil | suzhengwei__: Ok | 04:40 |
| tpatil | Next work item: Evacuate non-recovery (`HA_enabled = False`) instances | 04:41 |
| tpatil | Specs: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702427/ | 04:42 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Any update? | 04:42 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: i want your review on this | 04:42 |
| shilpasd47 | there are few comments, will address by today | 04:43 |
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| tpatil | shilpasd47: Ok, Thanks | 04:43 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: I will review this specs as well. But are you ready with the implementation? | 04:44 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: yes | 04:44 |
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| tpatil | shilpasd47: Have you already uploaded the patch? | 04:45 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: on CG, not yet, should i push? | 04:45 |
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| shilpasd47 | since pec is under review i haven't pushed to CG yet | 04:46 |
| shilpasd47 | spec* | 04:46 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Yes, you can push the implementation patch on the CG | 04:46 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: okay will push today | 04:47 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Thanks | 04:47 |
| tpatil | Modify masakari-hostmonitor in order to run it inside container | 04:47 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Any update? | 04:47 |
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| shilpasd47 | tpatil: here using 'crm' commands to check status for corosync/pacemaker | 04:48 |
| shilpasd47 | but 'crm' itself uses systemctl internally to verify the same | 04:48 |
| shilpasd47 | so my query, will crm commands will work inside docker? | 04:48 |
| tpatil | Where did you find out this information? | 04:49 |
| tpatil | that crm-> uses systemctl? | 04:49 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/blob/master/crmsh/utils.py#L1796 | 04:49 |
| tpatil | That's important finding. If that's the case, there is no point of making this change. Let me discuss this issue with Sampath san and get back to you | 04:51 |
| shilpasd47 | i have gone through this repository and observed that crm uses systemctl, correct me if i am wrong | 04:51 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: thank you | 04:51 |
| tpatil | Command parameter support to segment list command to filter out segments based on host input parameter | 04:52 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: We have already discussed about this work item. | 04:52 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: yes | 04:52 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: since approach 2 is not yet finalized, should i focus on implementation for this option? | 04:53 |
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| tpatil | shilpasd: Your call. I will discuss this point with Sampath san and get back to you. | 04:54 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: okay | 04:54 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: one more finding regarding 'Modify masakari-hostmonitor in order to run it inside container' | 04:54 |
| shilpasd47 | here 'crm status list', this command i was looking for finding status of corosync and pacemaker | 04:55 |
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| shilpasd47 | but if we want status of 'pacemaker-remote', as of now 'crm' doesn't have support for this | 04:55 |
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| shilpasd47 | https://github.com/ClusterLabs/crmsh/blob/master/crmsh/ui_cluster.py#L602 | 04:56 |
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| shilpasd47 | if check here, 'crm status list' only list status for corosync and pacemaker services. | 04:56 |
| tpatil | shilpasd: I will need time to look into this. | 04:56 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: yup, just findings i have shared here | 04:57 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Understood, thanks. If it's a blocker and cannot be done in U release, you can implement it in the next cycle | 04:58 |
| tpatil | running out of time. | 04:58 |
| tpatil | We have finished discussion on work items planned for U release | 04:58 |
| tpatil | Any other points left for discussion? | 04:58 |
| shilpasd47 | tpatil: ok, thanks | 04:59 |
| tpatil | Let's end this meeting here | 04:59 |
| tpatil | Thank you, All | 04:59 |
| shilpasd47 | thats all from my side, will add list of patches that needs to be review | 04:59 |
| shilpasd47 | thank you | 04:59 |
| tpatil | shilpasd47: Thanks | 05:00 |
| tpatil | #endmeeting | 05:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 05:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 05:00:09 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-03-24-04.00.html | 05:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-03-24-04.00.txt | 05:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2020/masakari.2020-03-24-04.00.log.html | 05:00 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 14:00:25 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 14:00 |
| lajoskatona | o/ | 14:00 |
| haleyb | o/ | 14:00 |
| rubasov | o/ | 14:00 |
| bcafarel | \o | 14:01 |
| slaweq | ok, lets start | 14:02 |
| slaweq | #topic Announcements | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:02 | |
| slaweq | according to https://releases.openstack.org/ussuri/schedule.html next important dates are: | 14:02 |
| slaweq | Final release for non-client libraries - week of March 30th, | 14:02 |
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| slaweq | Ussuri-3 (feature freeze) - week of April 6th | 14:02 |
| slaweq | so final release of non-client libraries is next week | 14:02 |
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| slaweq | I think we should review what is missing and needed there still and get it merged this or early next week | 14:03 |
| slaweq | and then we will prepare releases next week with amotoki | 14:03 |
| slaweq | if You have any patches waiting in review queue which You want to include in this final release of any lib, please ping me and tell me what patch You need | 14:05 |
| ralonsoh | hi | 14:05 |
| slaweq | and then in 2 weeks we have Ussuri-3 and feature freeze | 14:06 |
| slaweq | so we should now focus also on reviewing patches related to RFEs which we want to deliver in Ussuri | 14:06 |
| slaweq | most of them I think have set review-priority +1 | 14:07 |
| slaweq | any questions/comments about those dates? | 14:07 |
| njohnston | looks good to me | 14:08 |
| slaweq | ok, so next one | 14:08 |
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| slaweq | also about dates, according to https://governance.openstack.org/election/ PTL nomination period starts on Mar 24th which is today | 14:09 |
| slaweq | so if someone wants to candidate - this is week of nominations :) | 14:09 |
| slaweq | next announcement | 14:09 |
| slaweq | Victoria PTG in Vancouver is cancelled https://www.openstack.org/events/opendev-ptg-2020/ | 14:10 |
| slaweq | If You want to help to organize virtual PTG, please add Your name in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Virtual_PTG_Planning | 14:10 |
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| slaweq | we will need to find some way to arganize virtual ptg | 14:10 |
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| slaweq | so no team dinner this time :( | 14:11 |
| njohnston | This time I won't be the only one participating remotely :-) | 14:11 |
| slaweq | njohnston: true :) | 14:11 |
| njohnston | I think it will be different but it will have benefits | 14:12 |
| bcafarel | virtual team dinner then? | 14:12 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: I'm not sure if that will work fine but we can try :) | 14:12 |
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| amotoki | someone can have beer from the morning :) | 14:12 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:12 |
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| amotoki | sorry for late | 14:13 |
| slaweq | amotoki: and there will be excuse for that at least :D | 14:13 |
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| slaweq | and also speaking about Victoria (Virtual) PTG, we have Victoria PTG planning etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-victoria-ptg | 14:14 |
| slaweq | please add Your ideas about topics there | 14:14 |
| slaweq | and thx to all who already added some proposals there | 14:14 |
| njohnston | I rather like the way Ironic is doing their Unconference. I like the PTG idea but if we go back to the old midcycle concept then we can space things out so people involved in multiple projects dont have to juggle schedules | 14:14 |
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| slaweq | njohnston: but are You talking about virtual midcycle or "real" ones? | 14:15 |
| njohnston | well in these days it would be a virtual midcycle | 14:16 |
| slaweq | njohnston: I guess there is already some discussion about that in TC, right? | 14:17 |
| njohnston | slaweq: Yeah, let me wait for those ideas to get more fleshed out and I'll being the topic back at that point | 14:18 |
| amotoki | we are remote so we can split the event into small sessions per topic and coordinate schedules even over multiple weeks. we don't necessarily need to have sessions in consecutive days. | 14:18 |
| lajoskatona | I think the worst with a virtPTG is that for days we have to be active for the night | 14:19 |
| njohnston | lajoskatona: It is rough for sure | 14:19 |
| lajoskatona | so perhaps after identifiing the topics starting smaller meetings for the ones that are not fixed in mails or on irc can be better | 14:19 |
| slaweq | lajoskatona: that indeed sounds like good idea, at least for now | 14:20 |
| slaweq | lets see how it will evolve in next weeks | 14:20 |
| slaweq | I knot gibi already proposed something for nova so we can follow them with some ideas probably :) | 14:20 |
| lajoskatona | ok | 14:20 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on | 14:21 |
| slaweq | #topic Blueprints | 14:21 |
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| slaweq | Blueprints for Ussuri-3: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ussuri-3 | 14:21 |
| slaweq | any updates about them? | 14:21 |
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| slaweq | I wanted to ask about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/neutron-ovn-merge - Convergence of ML2+OVS+DVR and OVN | 14:23 |
| slaweq | last time we said that last missing patches for this are https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711317/ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702247/ | 14:24 |
| slaweq | but is https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711317/ needed to mark BP as done? this has reported separate bug | 14:25 |
| slaweq | and patch isn't linked with BP at all | 14:25 |
| slaweq | haleyb: what do You think? | 14:25 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, this patch is still not finished | 14:26 |
| haleyb | slaweq: i think getting https://review.opendev.org/#/c/702247/ would close it, and it was just updated, i'll review | 14:26 |
| haleyb | the rest are follow-ons and bug fixes i think | 14:26 |
| slaweq | haleyb: thx, that's exactly my opinion also | 14:26 |
| slaweq | for other BPs, I did some progress on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/enginefacade-switch | 14:27 |
| slaweq | Patches waiting for review now: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+topic:bp/enginefacade-switch | 14:27 |
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| slaweq | and about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/metadata-over-ipv6 - please all, review spec for this https://review.opendev.org/#/c/315604/ | 14:28 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:28 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, bence found a possible architecture error in the spec | 14:29 |
| ralonsoh | while doing a POC | 14:29 |
| rubasov | just commented before this meeting | 14:29 |
| slaweq | rubasov: ralonsoh: yes, I just saw it | 14:29 |
| slaweq | I will read after this meeting | 14:30 |
| rubasov | please check if you also think it is because the kernel behaves differently | 14:30 |
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| slaweq | and that's all update about BPs from me today | 14:31 |
| slaweq | if there is nothing else, lets move on | 14:32 |
| slaweq | #topic Community goals | 14:32 |
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| slaweq | here currently we have only not finished IPv6-only testing goal | 14:32 |
| slaweq | but I didn't had time to work on it this last week | 14:33 |
| haleyb | was the unittest.mock change a community goal? | 14:33 |
| njohnston | haleyb: no | 14:33 |
| ralonsoh | that was a recommendation | 14:33 |
| slaweq | haleyb: not yet for sure | 14:33 |
| slaweq | maybe for V cycle | 14:33 |
| njohnston | AFAIK noone has proposed it for V cycle | 14:33 |
| haleyb | ok, i'll mention it in open agenda then | 14:33 |
| slaweq | njohnston: any updates about migration to Zuul v3 which is Victoria goal? | 14:34 |
| njohnston | The only change in the field I know about is https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703949/ for networking-bagpipe | 14:35 |
| njohnston | lajoskatona: Have you gotten a start on converting networking-odl to zuulv3? | 14:35 |
| lajoskatona | yes, but I have to restart as that was month ago | 14:35 |
| njohnston | lajoskatona: thinking specifically about https://opendev.org/openstack/networking-odl/src/branch/master/.zuul.d/jobs.yaml#L240 to EOF | 14:35 |
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| lajoskatona | yes I have an old patch for that somewhere | 14:36 |
| njohnston | lajoskatona: OK, hopefully those jobs wont be too bad, they look pretty straightforward | 14:36 |
| lajoskatona | I refresh it and ask around in odl community | 14:36 |
| njohnston | thanks | 14:36 |
| slaweq | lajoskatona: and do You need help with https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703949/ ? | 14:36 |
| njohnston | and I don't know if we have anyone who can comment on midonet | 14:36 |
| njohnston | with odl and midonet and that one bagpipe change I think we're complete | 14:37 |
| lajoskatona | I think now that horizon is stabilized with pyScss2 those can be pushed forwards | 14:37 |
| slaweq | if You would need help with it lajoskatona, You can ping me | 14:38 |
| slaweq | next topic | 14:38 |
| slaweq | #topic Bugs | 14:38 |
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| lajoskatona | slaweq: thanks, I check the fresh resulst and come back | 14:38 |
| slaweq | I was on bug deputy. Summary http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-March/013510.html | 14:39 |
| slaweq | from what I wanted to highlight here is | 14:39 |
| slaweq | *are | 14:39 |
| slaweq | Two high bugs related to CI which we should take a look: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1867936 https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1868237 | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1867936 in neutron "test_update_delete_extra_route failing due to timeout when creating subnets" [High,Confirmed] | 14:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1868237 in neutron "[tempest] Error in "test_multicast_between_vms_on_same_network" test case" [High,Confirmed] | 14:39 |
| slaweq | both don't have assignment yet, so if anyone have some cycles to take a look, that would be great | 14:39 |
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| slaweq | and also https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1868137 which rubasov is already looking at but maybe someone more familiar with ovn driver could also take a look | 14:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1868137 in neutron "default geneve overhead is not set high enough for ovn" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:40 |
| slaweq | any other bugs You want to discuss with the team today? | 14:41 |
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| haleyb | slaweq: am i deputy this week? | 14:42 |
| slaweq | haleyb: no, this week hongbin is deputy | 14:42 |
| slaweq | Your turn is next week | 14:43 |
| haleyb | phew! | 14:43 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:43 |
| bcafarel | next week plan: create all the bugs! | 14:43 |
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| slaweq | LOL | 14:44 |
| slaweq | we will do competition: who can open more bugs next week :P | 14:44 |
| haleyb | i can close them just as fast :) | 14:44 |
| slaweq | haleyb: :D | 14:45 |
| slaweq | ok, lets move on to the last topic for today | 14:45 |
| slaweq | #topic On Demand Agenda | 14:45 |
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| slaweq | anything else You want to discuss today/ | 14:45 |
| slaweq | ? | 14:45 |
| haleyb | i have one | 14:45 |
| slaweq | go on haleyb | 14:45 |
| haleyb | along the recommendation of moving to unittest.mock, and other projects doing it i created https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711579/ | 14:46 |
| haleyb | it found some bugs which are in the related change section | 14:46 |
| slaweq | that is huge patch :) | 14:46 |
| haleyb | yes, very big, mostly one-liners luckily | 14:47 |
| haleyb | but it's now failing in the functional tests and needs some debugging, was wondering if i should split it up into unit and functional pieces to get one merged | 14:47 |
| ralonsoh | +1 for this | 14:48 |
| njohnston | haleyb: I think that is a good idea | 14:48 |
| slaweq | +1 | 14:48 |
| bcafarel | I though it was only UT in that review, looks like I missed a few lines in that long list? | 14:49 |
| slaweq | bcafarel: at first glance it seems for me that functional tests may fail due to https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711579/3/neutron/tests/base.py | 14:49 |
| bcafarel | but +1 on the idea, with fixes in now for UT it is mostly rename/reorder and it looked good to me when I checked | 14:49 |
| haleyb | ok, i'll get that one passing and propose another follow-on - i think it's the change in test_base.py? at least i thought it was the functional tests failing on a mock | 14:49 |
| slaweq | as those tests inherits from this too | 14:49 |
| bcafarel | ah true! | 14:49 |
| haleyb | slaweq: ah yes, that's it | 14:50 |
| haleyb | so really it's the patches it's depending on that need review | 14:50 |
| bcafarel | ok https://review.opendev.org/#/c/713350/ is a bit larger too | 14:51 |
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| haleyb | go big or go home :) | 14:52 |
| haleyb | i | 14:52 |
| haleyb | i'm padding my stats | 14:52 |
| slaweq | :) | 14:52 |
| bcafarel | :) | 14:53 |
| ralonsoh | and the revert of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711158? | 14:53 |
| ralonsoh | (this is the last related patch) | 14:53 |
| haleyb | ralonsoh: i was going to mention that one too | 14:53 |
| ralonsoh | sorry | 14:53 |
| haleyb | np | 14:53 |
| haleyb | looking at that again last night, looks like the int_br changes should be reverted for now, but the tun_br one is ok | 14:54 |
| haleyb | liuyulong: don't know if you're here but is that ok? ^^ | 14:54 |
| haleyb | or we just revert and re-do | 14:54 |
| slaweq | I don't understand, why we need revert of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711158 ? | 14:55 |
| haleyb | that was another change brought by the unittest.mock change, so maybe being too aggressive | 14:55 |
| ralonsoh | we use only native implementation | 14:55 |
| ralonsoh | why can't we remove deferred? | 14:55 |
| haleyb | i think there is still a small piece of code using ofctl in the int br, liu pointed it out i think | 14:56 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711158/2/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/ovs_neutron_agent.py@2082 | 14:57 |
| ralonsoh | I'll recheck that | 14:57 |
| ralonsoh | but the add_flow command will depend on the implementation used | 14:57 |
| ralonsoh | and now we have only native | 14:57 |
| slaweq | so shouldn't we get rid of this ofctl code instead of reverting Your patch? | 14:57 |
| haleyb | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/agent/common/ovs_lib.py#L422-L475 was the code | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | yes, you are right | 14:58 |
| haleyb | has a run_ofctl() call :( | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, this is not that simple | 14:58 |
| liuyulong | https://storage.gra.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_030/711158/2/gate/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-openvswitch/0301da3/controller/logs/screen-q-agt.txt | 14:58 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-sfc/+bug/1853171 | 14:58 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1853171 in neutron "Deprecate and remove any "ofctl" code in Neutron and related projects " [Medium,In progress] | 14:58 |
| liuyulong | tons of ovs-ofctl here in the log | 14:59 |
| slaweq | ralonsoh: ok, now I remember :) | 14:59 |
| ralonsoh | liuyulong, you are right: there are still some OF handled by ofctl | 14:59 |
| slaweq | ok, we are running out of time | 15:00 |
| slaweq | so lets continue this in neutron channel if needed | 15:00 |
| slaweq | thx for attending the meeting | 15:00 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 15:00:28 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-03-24-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-03-24-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| lajoskatona | bye | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2020/networking.2020-03-24-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
| slaweq | have a great week everyone o/ | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | #startmeeting neutron_qos | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 15:00:38 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ralonsoh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_qos' | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | hello | 15:00 |
| slaweq | hi :) | 15:00 |
| ralonsoh | yeah, the ofctl removal is not easy | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | there is no 1:1 conversion | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | let's wait 30 secs | 15:01 |
| ralonsoh | #topic RFEs | 15:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "RFEs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:02 | |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1858610 | 15:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1858610 in neutron "[RFE] Qos policy not supporting sharing bandwidth between several nics of the same vm." [Undecided,New] | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | we are still waiting for a spec or a POC | 15:02 |
| slaweq | and that seems to be pretty complex | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | I'll ping the author of the RFE today just to know the status | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | yeah, it is | 15:02 |
| ralonsoh | so let's wait for it but I don't know if we'll see something landed this cycle | 15:03 |
| ralonsoh | and that's all for today in this section! | 15:03 |
| slaweq | I don't think it will be this cycle | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | I dropped the classifier RFE because there are no volunteers to continue with the work | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | so I encourage anyone to continue with it | 15:04 |
| ralonsoh | reference: | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1476527 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor D.C. (igordcard) | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | is something missing here? | 15:05 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Bugs | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:05 | |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1864630 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1864630 in neutron "Hard Reboot VM with multiple port lost QoS " [Undecided,Fix released] - Assigned to Nguyen Thanh Cong (congnt95) | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | well addressed by https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709687/ | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | already merged | 15:06 |
| slaweq | ++ | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | and there is a backport https://review.opendev.org/#/q/If8edd29dd741f1688ffcac341fd58173539ba000 | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | but this patch in Train should be rebased on top of | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | (one sec) | 15:06 |
| ralonsoh | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/714417/ | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | (now in Train we have a small issue with rally) | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | so we need to wait for it | 15:07 |
| slaweq | not so small :) | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1868691 | 15:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1868691 in neutron "neutron-rally-task fails 100% on stable branches" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Bernard Cafarelli (bcafarel) | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | I know, I know... | 15:07 |
| slaweq | but bcafarel is on it already | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | bcafarel++ | 15:07 |
| ralonsoh | so the OVS QoS bug is almost solved, even in T | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | next one | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1863852 | 15:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1863852 in neutron "[OVN]Could not support more than one qos rule in one policy" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Rodolfo Alonso (rodolfo-alonso-hernandez) | 15:08 |
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| slaweq | ralonsoh: should this be backported also to Stein and older? | 15:08 |
| slaweq | or it applies only to Train? | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | hmmmmm | 15:08 |
| ralonsoh | let me check that | 15:09 |
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| ralonsoh | I'll check that after this meeting | 15:09 |
| slaweq | no, I can check it on my own later, I just though that maybe You will know :) | 15:09 |
| slaweq | thx | 15:09 |
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| ralonsoh | no, sorry | 15:09 |
| ralonsoh | that bug was open to master and I know this is also happening in T | 15:10 |
| ralonsoh | but I don't know in previous versions | 15:10 |
| slaweq | ok | 15:10 |
| ralonsoh | ok, the OVN QoS bug | 15:10 |
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| ralonsoh | maciejjozefczyk found today some issues in the patch | 15:10 |
| ralonsoh | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/711317/ | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | and I still need to reply to haleyb | 15:11 |
| maciejjozefczyk | ralonsoh, slaweq this should be cherry-picked to train (qos) | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | but is almost ready, probably in the next PS | 15:11 |
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| ralonsoh | yes, this QoS refactor should be backported to networking-ovn | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | (this is going to be funny...) | 15:11 |
| maciejjozefczyk | actually everything related to qos should be in train, cause in train we have a limited qos functionality, and mainly its broken | 15:11 |
| ralonsoh | yeah, once this patch is merged, I'll push a patch for n-ovn in T | 15:12 |
| maciejjozefczyk | ralonsoh, thanks! | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | yw | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | and so far, this is everything I have for today in the meeting backlog! | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | do you have any other bug? | 15:13 |
| slaweq | nope | 15:13 |
| ralonsoh | ok, so next section | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | #topic Open Discussion | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_qos)" | 15:14 | |
| ralonsoh | something to add? | 15:14 |
| slaweq | not from me | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | or do you want 45 mins back? | 15:14 |
| ralonsoh | heheeh | 15:14 |
| maciejjozefczyk | Yes, I want to add one thing | 15:15 |
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| ralonsoh | please | 15:15 |
| maciejjozefczyk | We have bug in Core OVN related to qos, described here | 15:15 |
| maciejjozefczyk | #link https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-discuss/2020-March/049866.html | 15:15 |
| ralonsoh | yeah... | 15:15 |
| maciejjozefczyk | Actually if there are for example 2 ports from the same network on the same chassis (same compute) | 15:15 |
| maciejjozefczyk | those 2 ports share one 'qos bucket' | 15:16 |
| maciejjozefczyk | that means the limit is shared between those ports | 15:16 |
| maciejjozefczyk | so if one port is noisy - the other port from the same network could have a problem | 15:16 |
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| ralonsoh | or just transmitting one flow | 15:17 |
| maciejjozefczyk | The solution would be to create a meter per each OVS inport, and I'm discussing it with OVN folks, to address that | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | the BW will be shared | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | but why per inport? | 15:17 |
| * slaweq needs to leave for few minutes, sorry | 15:17 | |
| ralonsoh | why not one meter per OVN QoS rule? | 15:17 |
| maciejjozefczyk | sorry, inport or outport | 15:17 |
| ralonsoh | slaweq, bye | 15:17 |
| maciejjozefczyk | slaweq, bb! | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | in a future, we'll have "match" fields with other than inport/outport | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | for example, filtering by ip or mac | 15:18 |
| maciejjozefczyk | ralonsoh, ah yes | 15:18 |
| ralonsoh | (for FIP, for example) | 15:18 |
| maciejjozefczyk | ralonsoh, yes you're right | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | the point is, this is not like classfull HTC in TC | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | where you have a qdisc and classes and filters | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | everything organized in a tree | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | there is no dependency between ovn qos rules | 15:19 |
| ralonsoh | so, IMO, there should be a meter per rule | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | another topic could be the performance... | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | but image you have 100 ports in one chassis | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | each one shaped | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | and 100 FIPs | 15:20 |
| ralonsoh | so you'll need those 200 meters, each one different | 15:20 |
| maciejjozefczyk | yes | 15:21 |
| ralonsoh | what I don';t understand is the current OVN qos implementation | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | maybe there is a reason for that | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | and we need to implement the qos in another way | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | neutron qos for ovn | 15:22 |
| ralonsoh | ok, something else to add? | 15:23 |
| maciejjozefczyk | from me nope | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | thank you all and see you online! | 15:24 |
| ralonsoh | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 15:24:24 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-03-24-15.00.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-03-24-15.00.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_qos/2020/neutron_qos.2020-03-24-15.00.log.html | 15:24 |
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| clarkb | infra meeting time! (in about 2 minutes) | 18:59 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 24 19:01:38 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | Anyone else here for the meeting? | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-March/006612.html Our Agenda | 19:01 |
| frickler | o/ | 19:01 |
| diablo_rojo | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| mordred | o/ | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/foundation/2020-March/002854.html PTG going virtual | 19:02 |
| clarkb | I'm sure most or all of us have seen this news already, but wanted to call it out if you hadn't | 19:02 |
| fungi | thanks for the heads up! | 19:02 |
| clarkb | The big impact for us is that we'll likely try to support the virtual event though tools | 19:03 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:03 |
| clarkb | corvus has begun work on a jitsi deployment incorporating our etherpad which looks promising but I'm sure tehre will be other things as well | 19:03 |
| corvus | clarkb: any idea what other things? | 19:03 |
| clarkb | corvus: right now? no :) | 19:04 |
| clarkb | though collecting artifacts might be something that becomes more important | 19:04 |
| clarkb | especially if conversations span timezones and we need to forward more concrete thoughts/items | 19:05 |
| mordred | like scrolls and treasure chests and magical amulets? | 19:05 |
| fungi | dibs on the +1 sword | 19:05 |
| * mordred weilds the +2 mace of bludgeoning | 19:05 | |
| corvus | i thought that was what the etherpad was for... | 19:06 |
| fungi | that probably is what the etherpad is for | 19:06 |
| corvus | just trying to figure out if i'm barking up the wrong tree | 19:06 |
| clarkb | corvus: I don't think you are | 19:06 |
| mordred | I think your tree is great! | 19:06 |
| fungi | i'm guessing "other things" might be improvements to ptgbot | 19:07 |
| fungi | scheduling tools? dunno | 19:07 |
| clarkb | but there are a lot of moving parts and we've been involved in the technology side a bit in the past | 19:07 |
| mordred | I'm guessing clarkb is just trying to pessimistically anticipate a general need for "other things" | 19:07 |
| clarkb | (so I expect more moving parts) | 19:07 |
| corvus | yeah, lots of other opportunities | 19:07 |
| * mordred thinks meatpad is amazing | 19:07 | |
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| fungi | heh | 19:07 |
| * mordred would like to propose that we cname it so that both spellings are acceptable | 19:07 | |
| fungi | veggiepad is leaner and better for you | 19:08 |
| mordred | ok - maybe 2 cnames :) | 19:08 |
| clarkb | we should continue and then we can talk about meetpad in more detail | 19:08 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:08 | |
| clarkb | ianw had an action to cleanup files02 and old static resources | 19:09 |
| clarkb | I think I saw a statusbot log action for that? | 19:09 |
| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-17-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting | 19:09 |
| ianw | yes, the servers are gone. there was some fun when i tried to look at the volumes :) | 19:09 |
| ianw | i think that is sorted now, need to catch up, but i'll leave the old static volume and have a note to clear it out in a few months, just in case | 19:09 |
| clarkb | sounds good, thanks | 19:10 |
| ianw | ... so ... i think the transition is done. i can move it in specs to the done pile later | 19:10 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #topic Specs approval | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs approval (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:10 | |
| * mordred hands a +2 chicken of awesome to ianw | 19:10 | |
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| clarkb | really quickly before we talk meetpad is the xwiki spec | 19:10 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/710057/ xwiki for wikis | 19:11 |
| clarkb | fungi: ttx ^ I think we probably can put this up for approval this week given the discussion we had on the topic in last weeks meeting | 19:11 |
| clarkb | I think we are largely on the same page that experimentation around the wiki problem is worthwhile | 19:11 |
| clarkb | is there any disagreement with that? | 19:11 |
| fungi | i'm fine with putting it up for a vote but also don't expect it's too urgent | 19:12 |
| fungi | good either way | 19:12 |
| clarkb | ya I'm not sure we'll get too much additional feedback if we drag it out, and the topic is fresh in minds now given the discussion last week | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | ok I'll look to landing that EOD thursday local time. | 19:14 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.opendev.org/714189 meetpad | 19:14 |
| clarkb | For anyone not familiar the meetpad idea is to combine jitsi meet and etherpad into a remote collaboration tool for events like a virtual PTG (though sure to have uses elsewhere too) | 19:14 |
| clarkb | corvus: ^ probably ahs a lot more to say about it | 19:14 |
| corvus | i think that about covers it | 19:15 |
| corvus | i'm optimistic that having a tool focused on the design session workflow will be a passable substitute | 19:16 |
| corvus | i've tested it small-scale, but not large scale | 19:16 |
| corvus | since this is a low-commitment standalone service, we might want to think about going aheand and spinning it up to see how it goes | 19:16 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:16 |
| clarkb | ya I'm hoping we can use it at medium scale a bit before the main event | 19:16 |
| corvus | we can always shut it down later; it has no persistent storage or anything | 19:16 |
| fungi | i can imagine ways in which it could even make some remote participation in otherwise in-person events more viable | 19:17 |
| mordred | especially since you've got the ansbiels already | 19:17 |
| corvus | and yes, the complete implementation is ready to go | 19:17 |
| clarkb | On the deployment side my one concern is that the shape of the deployment is very different than our existing docker stuff | 19:17 |
| corvus | well, not *very* different | 19:17 |
| corvus | i managed to get it using host networking | 19:17 |
| clarkb | ya, but instead of process per container its lots of processes per container (including cron) | 19:17 |
| clarkb | it will just look different from the management side which is probably ok if people are aware of it | 19:18 |
| corvus | fwiw, i'm not really aware of it :) | 19:18 |
| corvus | i think the cron stuff is only for certbot? which we also won't use | 19:18 |
| corvus | because i hooked it into our existing acme stuff | 19:18 |
| clarkb | ah ok so we can trim out the bits we don't need | 19:18 |
| mordred | yeah - I thnk the images have more stuff in them - but we're not necessarily using those images in that way | 19:19 |
| corvus | well, i wouldn't trim it out | 19:19 |
| mordred | which is fine by me | 19:19 |
| corvus | i'd like to use upstream images if possible | 19:19 |
| corvus | (right now, we need a customized local image because i have a patch outstanding) | 19:20 |
| mordred | yeah. we're really only building these atm because we have to carry a patch right? | 19:20 |
| mordred | yeah | 19:20 |
| clarkb | ya I'm not opposed, more I wanted to call out how they seemed to be different than how we've tried to construct things | 19:20 |
| clarkb | if we run the upstream images it will be even more clear | 19:20 |
| corvus | well, i'm not sure they're that different | 19:20 |
| corvus | they're using our acme letsencrypt stuff, and there are 4 containers for the 4 processes | 19:20 |
| clarkb | ok | 19:21 |
| clarkb | I've misread the cron stuff then | 19:21 |
| corvus | it's there, we just won't use it so we can ignore it | 19:21 |
| corvus | i think it fits in pretty well with our model; our docker-compose file is really close to the upstream one | 19:22 |
| fungi | so the images have more in them that we'll be leveraging is the main concern? | 19:22 |
| corvus | so i think it's worked out pretty nice actually | 19:22 |
| fungi | er, more in then THAN we'll be leveraging i meant | 19:22 |
| * fungi can't type | 19:22 | |
| corvus | it's close enough to our model that i was able to complete the entire implementation stack in less than a day | 19:22 |
| clarkb | fungi: on my initial read it appeared that we would be using cron to run certbot | 19:22 |
| clarkb | but I guess thats all there to avoid divergence from the upstream images and not actually to be consumed in our setup | 19:23 |
| fungi | and we're not, got it | 19:23 |
| corvus | we may yet be | 19:23 |
| corvus | but it won't do anything | 19:23 |
| corvus | if we really want to pull it out, we can, but i don't think it's a big deal | 19:24 |
| clarkb | if the plan is to use upstream images anyway may as well keep it (since we'll get it back again once we move to their images | 19:24 |
| corvus | i'd like to do that, yes | 19:24 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:24 |
| fungi | seems fine to me | 19:25 |
| corvus | so what's the timing here? | 19:25 |
| clarkb | please review the spec if you haven't already. Then plan to land it next week? Though at the rate implementation is going maybe we should try to get people to review it this week and land the spec sooner than later | 19:25 |
| corvus | to be clear, implementation is done :) | 19:26 |
| corvus | the next thing is to create the server after the implementation patches land | 19:26 |
| fungi | i'd be cool landing it this week | 19:26 |
| * mordred too | 19:26 | |
| fungi | some of us have already reviewed and voted in favor of the spec | 19:26 |
| clarkb | of active roots its missing ianw and myself (and I've actually read it just not finalized my vote (which is positive I'm excited) | 19:27 |
| frickler | +1, looking forward to tsting this | 19:27 |
| fungi | doesn't seem like it needs adjustments | 19:27 |
| clarkb | ianw: ^ you ok with landing that this week? | 19:27 |
| ianw | yes | 19:27 |
| fungi | also, it's a timely effort, so the less we unnecessarily delay progress on it, the better | 19:27 |
| clarkb | cool I'll give people until thursday to review it then plan to approve it | 19:27 |
| corvus | should we ping anyone from other communities about this? | 19:28 |
| corvus | or stand up the server and then do that? | 19:28 |
| clarkb | corvus: I half expect it would be easier to explain once the service is up | 19:28 |
| mordred | me too | 19:28 |
| fungi | i think asking them to help test it out makes more sense | 19:28 |
| mordred | "go look at this" | 19:28 |
| corvus | yeah, i tend to think so too. there's so little cost in standing it up | 19:28 |
| fungi | i expect we'll want to conduct at least one "load test" where we try to get lots of folks using it at the same time | 19:29 |
| fungi | so we can work out sizing before it gets slammed and falls over at ptg time | 19:29 |
| clarkb | as a time check we are about halfway through our allotted time and have more to discuss. Do you think we've gotten the important bits for this spec sorted (until thursday at least)? | 19:29 |
| corvus | ya | 19:29 |
| corvus | clarkb: yep, thanks! | 19:29 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:30 | |
| clarkb | #topic Update Config Management | 19:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Update Config Management (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:30 | |
| clarkb | mordred: (or fungi or corvus ?) can you fill us in on the gerrit on containers status? | 19:30 |
| mordred | well ... | 19:30 |
| mordred | we ALMOST updated on friday during renames | 19:30 |
| mordred | but then there was some container content issues - mostly the fact that jeepyb was missing | 19:31 |
| fungi | the maintenance went really well, right up until.. yeah. so close! | 19:31 |
| mordred | we've been unwinding an fixing some issues in the job | 19:31 |
| fungi | hook script entrypoints were missing | 19:31 |
| fungi | was the main setback | 19:31 |
| mordred | as soon as I get another set of images built with the latest jeepyb changes (so close last time) - we'll be in a good position to do another quick restart | 19:31 |
| mordred | that should be no longer than a stop/start | 19:32 |
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| mordred | in the process - we learned a gerrit thing that's worth sharing ... | 19:32 |
| fungi | this has also spurred greater testing for jeepyb, so it's not all bad | 19:32 |
| mordred | gerrit init does three things: it downloads the database driver, it expands the plugins from the war, and it runs db migrations | 19:32 |
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| mordred | we updated the image build script to do the first two - as they make no sense to be runtime activities in a container image | 19:32 |
| mordred | so now seriously we only have to run init for db migrations when we upgrade | 19:33 |
| mordred | so - just a note for everyone to be aware of | 19:33 |
| clarkb | and until we get restarted on that new image project creation is not expected to work | 19:34 |
| clarkb | (so we are holding new projects for now) | 19:34 |
| clarkb | mordred: and the testing will incorporate testing of manage-projects? | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | it just occured to me that we may want to bind mount in the jeepyb cache for that? somethign to sort out side of the meeting | 19:34 |
| mordred | we already do! | 19:35 |
| clarkb | excellent | 19:35 |
| mordred | although that's worth a mention | 19:35 |
| fungi | new project creation and anything else on the gerrit server is blocked, right (this includes gerritbot config changes) | 19:35 |
| mordred | I added helper scripts for manage-projects and track-upstream that run docker run with the appropriate bind-mounts | 19:35 |
| mordred | fungi: yah | 19:35 |
| corvus | do we need to hold new projects right now? | 19:35 |
| mordred | so if you go to review-dev and just run manage-projects - it should work | 19:35 |
| corvus | it's still in emergency, right? | 19:36 |
| mordred | yah - I think AJaeger has been holding them | 19:36 |
| mordred | that's right | 19:36 |
| corvus | so i guess nothing will run automatically | 19:36 |
| corvus | ok. just wanted to double check my understanding on that | 19:36 |
| fungi | corvus: seems like it's safe to keep approving them, they just won't take effect | 19:36 |
| corvus | yeah, though that's potentiall confusing | 19:36 |
| fungi | right | 19:37 |
| * fungi was confused that the infra-manual rename hadn't taken effect for gerritbot, for example) | 19:37 | |
| clarkb | ok sounds like that may be it. Lets move on as we have even more to talk about :) | 19:38 |
| clarkb | #topic OpenDev | 19:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenDev (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:38 | |
| clarkb | We've updated the way Gitea restarts happen. This should allow gerrit's replication plugin to properly detect the remote service is offline which will result in retries | 19:38 |
| clarkb | https://review.opendev.org/714691 is small change that will run this in production (we do test it in checka nd gate too) just to be sure it doesn't cause problems unexpectedly later | 19:39 |
| clarkb | Also the OpenStack TC governance change to excise OpenDev has landed (mentioend this last week) and we've landed our documentation updates | 19:39 |
| mordred | woot | 19:40 |
| clarkb | Two big todos that come out of that is I think we need to formally elect a project lead as well as start forming the Advisory Board | 19:40 |
| mordred | clarkb: my understanding is that you are now lifetime project lead, right? | 19:40 |
| clarkb | mordred: I was going to nominate you | 19:40 |
| clarkb | :P | 19:40 |
| fungi | hot potato | 19:40 |
| corvus | not it | 19:41 |
| clarkb | more seriously though I was going to start noodling on how the process for both of those. We've got lots of hsitory to work with can liekly come up with something sane | 19:41 |
| clarkb | if you've got ideas or thoughts let me know or feel free to start a mailing list thead | 19:41 |
| clarkb | and that takes us to the last set of opendev related topics I had on the agenda (which I'm going to reorder sligthly) | 19:41 |
| clarkb | location of future meetings as well as need for opendev-discuss mailing list | 19:41 |
| clarkb | initially I had thought we could do our weekly meetings in #opendev but frickler has indicated that the overlap in communications would cause problems | 19:42 |
| clarkb | I think that concern is valid, so maybe we should create an #opendev-auxillary (I can't spell) where we can have meetings as well as use it for quiet space like the old infra-incident? | 19:43 |
| frickler | yes, I've experienced that e.g. in the qa team and I would not like it | 19:43 |
| clarkb | then anyone looking to catch up can check that channel for any super important updates and if empty skim #opendev at their leisure | 19:43 |
| ianw | ++ to separate | 19:43 |
| fungi | a related question is whether we need something similar to or replacing #openstack-infra-incident | 19:43 |
| clarkb | corvus: any concerns with that from a freenode perspective? I suppose its another channel for bots but we are trimming channels elsewhere for the bots | 19:43 |
| clarkb | fungi: ya I kinda expect we can simply use a single side channel for both | 19:44 |
| clarkb | because if there is an important incident we won't be meeting anyway | 19:44 |
| fungi | wfm | 19:44 |
| clarkb | (I'm trying to be friendly to bots and not add too many extra channels) | 19:44 |
| frickler | or we make an incident-themed meeting | 19:44 |
| clarkb | frickler: ya or that | 19:44 |
| fungi | so bikeshed some name which covers meetings and incidents | 19:45 |
| corvus | i think we own the #opendev namespace | 19:45 |
| frickler | then the channel could in fact be named #opendev-meeting, I'd think that would make it's purpose more easily visible | 19:45 |
| fungi | #opendev-bikeshed isn't taken ;) | 19:45 |
| clarkb | frickler: thats a good point. I'm happy to go with that | 19:45 |
| clarkb | anyone want to take an action to push up changes to make that official? | 19:46 |
| clarkb | we can bikeshed further in review if necessary | 19:46 |
| fungi | i can do that unless someone else really wants it | 19:46 |
| clarkb | #action fungi Add new opendev meeting (and incident) channel | 19:47 |
| clarkb | the other related piece of this is mailing lists | 19:47 |
| clarkb | I thinkwe can just go ahead aand create an opendev-discuss list on lists.opendev.org and start transitioning more of our email communication there | 19:47 |
| clarkb | Then we can possibly fold openstack-infra into openstack-discuss as well | 19:47 |
| fungi | service-discuss@ would make sense given we already have service-announce@ | 19:48 |
| clarkb | fungi: ++ | 19:48 |
| fungi | i can do the change for that as well | 19:48 |
| clarkb | #action fungi Add service-discuss@lists.opendev.org mailing list | 19:48 |
| clarkb | thank you! | 19:48 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:48 |
| fungi | and again, names can be debated in the change | 19:49 |
| clarkb | yup | 19:49 |
| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:50 | |
| clarkb | The last agenda item was a catchup on mediwiki updates/cahnges | 19:50 |
| clarkb | I don't think there has been any movement on the puppet retrofit | 19:50 |
| clarkb | but did want to have this as an opportunity to talk about the possibility of dockerizing the deployment | 19:50 |
| clarkb | mnaser: corvus ^ I think you've both been busy so don't expect there is anything new to discuss, but if there is feel free to share | 19:51 |
| corvus | i don't have anything to report there | 19:51 |
| fungi | if i find time i'll still try to make progress on the puppet module because it's the closest thing we have to documentation for the target configuration | 19:52 |
| fungi | but mostly i suspect it needs troubleshooting done with extensions and possibly extension conflicts | 19:52 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:54 |
| clarkb | and that takes us to the free for all portion of the meeting | 19:54 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | we lucked out and our monthly delivery of TP arrived (a few days late) from amazon. But now I'm distributing TP to family | 19:56 |
| mordred | we have plenty for ourselves | 19:56 |
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| clarkb | Also oreilly has apparently cancelled all in person events forever. If you were set up to speak at one of their events that info may be useful to you | 19:58 |
| fungi | people here tend to stockpile it to fling during the st patrick's day parade (which wound up cancelled). this produced an odd dynamic with people unexpectedly sitting on stockpiles of the stuff and stores already running low before the panic hit | 19:58 |
| clarkb | (or attend I suppose) | 19:59 |
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| clarkb | And that is time. Thank you everyone! | 19:59 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 19:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 24 19:59:46 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-24-19.01.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-24-19.01.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-03-24-19.01.log.html | 19:59 |
| fungi | thanks clarkb! | 20:00 |
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