Tuesday, 2020-02-04

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joxyuki#startmeeting tacker08:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  4 08:01:53 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is joxyuki. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tacker'08:01
joxyuki#topic Roll Call08:02
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keiko-khello08:02
takahashi-tscHello08:02
joxyukihi keiko-k, takahashi-tsc08:02
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joxyukiok, let's start08:06
joxyuki#topic BP08:07
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joxyukikeiko-k, nitinuikey do you have anything to talk related to https://review.opendev.org/#/c/591866/1008:08
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keiko-kNothing.08:09
joxyukiok,08:10
joxyukitakahashi-tsc, do you? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/700167/08:11
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takahashi-tscI will update it later, probably by today or tomorrow. We discuss your comment and decide how to fix.08:12
nitinuikeyJo san, Regarding https://review.opendev.org/#/c/591866/10 we are busy doing implementation. I will check it this week.08:13
takahashi-tscI will accept almost all your proposal.08:13
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joxyukitakahashi-tsc, good.08:14
joxyukinitinuikey, what do you mean "check it"? What are you going to check?08:15
joxyukiok next, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/685867/08:19
joxyukiyunyoung is a new comer to Tacker and requested us to review his spec.08:20
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joxyukiplease review it when you have a time.08:21
nitinuikeyJo san, We need to update the spec for database changes08:21
joxyukiin the VNF LCM spec?08:22
nitinuikeyyes08:22
joxyukiis it https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704959/ ?08:23
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dkushwahao/08:26
keiko-ko,08:26
joxyukihi, dkushwaha08:26
keiko-khello08:26
dkushwahasorry for late joining08:26
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takahashi-tschi08:27
dkushwahahello all08:28
dkushwahaplease continue, i will be getting in sync08:28
nitinuikeyjo san, is it https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704959/ ? yes this is related with vnf packages but LCM API have dependency on it. also we need to change the data model of https://review.opendev.org/#/c/591866/10/specs/ussuri/etsi-nfv-sol-rest-api-for-VNF-deployment.rst08:29
joxyukinoted08:30
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keiko-k nitinuikey  Are there other changes related to data model ?08:33
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joxyukihe has left...08:35
joxyukimoving next. let's get back when he will join again.08:36
joxyuki#topic python3-support08:37
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joxyukihttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/692269/ was merged.08:37
joxyukiWe dropped python2 support and we all have to write python3 from now.08:38
dkushwahanice08:39
joxyukihttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/703579/08:39
joxyukiI wonder this patch is good or not.08:41
joxyukiA work around for this bug is chaning his simlink /usr/bin/python to /usr/bin/python3 from /usr/bin/python2.08:42
joxyukidkushwaha, what do you think?08:42
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dkushwahajoxyuki, same here, not sure why to mention py3 explicitly, while we already moving for py3 default08:43
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joxyukiok, I will post a comment to the patch.08:44
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joxyukihi, nitinuikey, do you have plan to change DB model related to VNF LCM other than https://review.opendev.org/#/c/704959/08:45
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nitinuikeyJoxyuki, https://review.opendev.org/#/c/70194108:47
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joxyukiIsn't that patch consistent with your spec for now?08:48
nitinuikeyno08:48
joxyukiOk, please update the spec propery.08:50
nitinuikeysure will do it by tomorrow.08:50
joxyuki#topic open-discussion08:51
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joxyukidoes anyone have a anything to talk?08:51
dkushwahaAs my new office location is in tokyo, so I just came to japan 2 days back. But my flight was via hong-kong so as a precaution from coronavirus, i have been asked to stay at home for 14days08:52
dkushwahai will use this time for reviewing Tacker patches08:53
keiko-kwelcome to Japan!08:54
joxyukigood news08:54
takahashi-tscSounds good!08:54
nitinuikeywelcome to Japan !!!08:55
dkushwahaI hope it will be more compatible timezone for me now :)08:55
dkushwahaThanks all :)08:55
joxyukiwell, if no one have more topic, I will wrap up the meetinng.08:56
dkushwahanone from my side08:56
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joxyukiok, thanks team, bye.08:56
joxyuki#endmeeting08:57
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dkushwahaBye Folks08:57
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ricolin#startmeeting self_healing14:00
ricolino/14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  4 14:00:49 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'self_healing'14:00
ricolin#topic roll call14:00
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ricolino/14:01
ricolin:)14:01
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ekcshello14:02
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ricolinekcs, o/14:05
ekcshi ricolin !14:05
ricolinjust back from chinese new year vacation too?:)14:05
ricolin#topic open discussion14:06
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witekhi ekcs and ricolin14:06
ricolinwitek, o/14:06
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ekcshaha I did not really take vacation for CNY. hope you had a good one though!14:07
ricolinwitek, I didn't follow the python-monasca patch last two weeks, anything for update?14:07
ekcshi witek14:07
ricolinekcs, it is14:07
witekricolin: not much, sorry, when setting up environment I've been fixing DevStack upstream14:07
ricolinwitek, any idea how can we push it forward?14:08
witekI have my env set up now, will try to reproduce the issue14:09
ricolinthanks, kindly let me know how's that goes:)14:09
witekwill do14:10
ricolinekcs, anything update for self-healing?14:11
ekcsmain update I have is that unfortunately I will need to take a step back from openstack work because of role change at my work =/14:13
ekcslike I mentioned tentatively at the PTG14:13
witekcan you share what will be your focus now?14:14
ekcsclosed source stuff now.14:15
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ricolinekcs, that's unfortunate, will you still be around in upstream?14:16
ekcsit’s not like a company wide thing or anything. other teams still investing in openstack. just an isolated thing in my case.14:16
ekcshope to be around on and off. but not consistently.14:16
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witekwill be missing you14:18
ekcsneed to figure out how to wrap up my stuff and hand things off.14:18
ekcsthank you witek, ricolin !14:18
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ricolinthat means we lost both chairs for self-healing14:20
ricolinmaybe to officially create an automatic SIG might be something we can do to combine resources14:21
ekcsyea I thought I mentioned it at the PTG cuz I know this was likely coming and was one of the reasons I prioritized the merging conversation.14:21
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* ricolin remember that14:22
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ricolinI will propose a automatic SIG proposal if no one against it14:25
ricolinthat also means we need to fix dos/wiki for SIGs to redirect to the new SIG and keep both repos.14:26
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witekwhat name do we want to use?14:26
ekcsI’m not against obviously. The name I proposed at PTG was automation SIG. but there isn’t really a perfect one.14:28
ricolinautomation IIRC14:28
witeksounds good to me14:29
ricolin#action ricolin create Automation SIG to official merge two SIGs14:30
ricolin#action witek works on reproduce the python-monasca+heat issue from previous gate test14:31
ricolinwitek, ekcs anything we should discuss now?14:32
witekI don't have anything14:33
ekcsnot me.14:33
ricolinwitek, ekcs let's end the meeting. Thanks for join14:35
ricolin#endmeeting14:35
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ekcsthank you ricolin , witek ! hope everyone stays safe.14:36
witekthanks ricolin14:36
ricolinthanks ekcs14:37
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jeremyfreudbergricolin: meeting?15:01
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ricolin#startmeeting multi_arch15:06
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  4 15:06:19 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ricolin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:06
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:06
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ricolin#topic roll call15:06
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jeremyfreudbergo/15:06
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, sorry, I was delayed15:06
TrevorVo/15:06
jeremyfreudbergno worries15:06
rh-jelabarreo/15:06
ricolinplease put topics in agenda https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Multi-Arch-agenda15:07
* ricolin just get back from Chinese New Year break, so no much to update from his side:)15:08
jeremyfreudbergi don't have any additonal topics to add to that agenda. looks good15:09
ricolin#topic Follow on CI Resources15:10
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ricolinas ianw mentioned in #openstack-multi-arch earlier15:10
ricolinthere's some persistent connection problems between the london and us cloud for upstream gate15:10
ricolinthey're still working on it15:11
ricolinhe will update story once more information pop up15:12
ricolinfrom my side, I propose to update kubernetes/cloud-provider-openstack and support for multi-arch container image before my long break15:14
ricolinSome job failed apparently, need to check that15:14
ricolinfeel free to take a look15:15
ricolin#link https://github.com/kubernetes/cloud-provider-openstack/pull/91015:15
jeremyfreudbergricolin: cool, i am looking at the patch now, even though i don't know much about k8s15:15
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, thanks15:16
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, rh-jelabarre TrevorV anything to update for CI resources that you know?15:16
TrevorVNothing on my end, sorry15:16
jeremyfreudbergricolin: nope. we are all more on ppc than on arm. and ppc CI is a different story15:17
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, how's ppc goes:)15:18
jeremyfreudbergricolin: ppc itself is going fine. but i believe IBM is taking most of the responsibility for ppc CI, not as much red hat15:19
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, we have a specific CI env for ppc on upstream?15:21
jeremyfreudbergricolin: it's unclear to me. it might be more an rdo thing, need to talk internally15:22
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ricolinjeremyfreudberg, got it15:22
ricolinmove on15:23
ricolin#topic Follow on Repo and StoryBoard setup15:23
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ricolinthe next action mentioned from last meeting is to send out init doc and test patch for our repo15:23
ricolinwhich I fail to do it before my long vacation, but will keep that task and finish it this week15:24
* ricolin that's what happen when you live two New years in an year:)15:25
rh-jelabarrewhat would we use the multi-arch-sig repo for (as opposed to the storyboard)?15:25
ricolinrh-jelabarre, to keep documents for now15:25
TrevorVI'm a little unfamiliar with "storyboard" myself, is it another ticketing system of some kind?15:25
ricolinTrevorV, yes15:25
jeremyfreudbergTrevorV: storyboard is similar to launchpad -- bugs and features tracking15:26
ricolin#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/openstack/multi-arch-sig15:26
rh-jelabarreit looked to be more documentation (which is why I wondered about the difference between it and repo)15:26
TrevorVNo worries, I get it.15:26
TrevorVCool, just curious15:26
ricolin#action ricolin should send out doc init structure in multi arch sig repo15:27
ricolinmove on15:27
jeremyfreudbergthanks ricolin15:27
ricolin#topic Follow on documentation15:27
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ricolinjeremyfreudberg, any update on this?15:27
jeremyfreudbergricolin: my update is just https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200725315:28
ricolin#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200725315:28
ricolingot it15:29
jeremyfreudbergi want to write a good overview document based on what i mention in the story15:29
ricolinI don't have much to update on docs either:)15:29
jeremyfreudbergand then other participants can link out from that document to their own documents with specific knowledge15:29
ricolinthat's good idea15:30
jeremyfreudbergi will try to work on it soon15:30
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, thanks!15:30
jeremyfreudbergand eventually incorporate it into repo after you do the initial strucutre for doc there15:30
ricolinI will send it out asap15:31
ricolinyou can work on it on etherpad or some other place, and we can push it into patch once repo is ready for it15:32
jeremyfreudbergricolin: sounds good15:32
ricolinmove on:)15:33
ricolin#topic open discussion15:33
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ricolinjeremyfreudberg, rh-jelabarre TrevorV anything else that you think we should discuss today?15:33
jeremyfreudbergricolin: i was wondering whether we should be logging #openstack-multi-arch15:34
TrevorVI'm curious about the "meeting times" lines in the agenda... unless I'm wrong (totally possible) those lines need updated15:34
jeremyfreudbergdoes not appear in http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/ (because does not appear in https://opendev.org/opendev/system-config/src/branch/master/hiera/common.yaml )15:34
TrevorVNope, wait, nevermind... I misunderstood.15:34
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, I guess I missed that part15:34
ricolinwe need to fix that indeed15:35
ricolinTrevorV, :)15:35
jeremyfreudbergricolin: it is not 100% mandatory. but maybe it's a good idea. some people will find it useful15:35
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TrevorVI misread the lines, for whatever reason I thought *this* time slot was marked to be in the openstack-meeting-alt channel, but it wasn't.  My fault!  Sorry :D15:36
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, will update https://opendev.org/opendev/system-config/src/branch/master/hiera/common.yaml later15:36
jeremyfreudbergricolin: TrevorV makes a good point, do you think we should meet in #openstack-meeting-* or just consolidate into #openstack-multi-arch for everything?15:36
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ricolinjeremyfreudberg, from my experience, to host meeting in SIG irc channel will easily lost people's attention15:37
jeremyfreudbergricolin: ok, sure15:38
jeremyfreudbergricolin: let's keep it in #openstack-meeting-* then :)15:38
ricolinjeremyfreudberg, we can totally move to it if there's a lot of people in openstack-multi-arch channel:)15:38
ricolinfor now, I think we need more attention:)15:39
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jeremyfreudbergyup15:39
TrevorVSo when you say "openstack-meeting-*" you do mean this channel still for this meeting, and then the one that happens many hours before it is still in "-arch"?15:39
TrevorV-alt****15:39
TrevorVsorry, mistype15:39
jeremyfreudbergTrevorV: exactly, no change right now15:40
ricolinTrevorV, it's a good suggestion, I should also post information in meeting-alt before meeting time, so others know we're here:)15:41
TrevorVYep, sounds good to me.15:42
ricolinOkay, if nothing else, let's end this meeting so you can go back to target the real works:)15:42
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jeremyfreudbergthanks ricolin !15:43
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ricolinBTW most of our CI jobs still not register a Story in our storyboard, we need to target that in this week as well15:43
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ricolin#action all please fill a story for you CI jobs in our storyboard so others can keep tracking it15:44
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ricolin#endmeeting15:45
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ricolinTrevorV, jeremyfreudberg rh-jelabarre thanks for join:)15:45
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TrevorVI'll be trying to make it every over week if I can :D15:45
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ricolinTrevorV, :)15:48
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clarkbwe'll get the infra meeting started shortly18:59
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fungiexcellent19:00
corvuso/19:01
clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  4 19:01:33 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:01
clarkb#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2020-February/006595.html Our Agenda19:01
clarkbWe have an agenda19:01
ianwo/19:01
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clarkb#topic Announcements19:02
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clarkbI was planning to be out tomorrow to go fishing but was told last night that weather is not good so that probably isn't happening. However, we just had to pick up a sick kid from school so I might be AFK anyway to take care of sick kid19:02
clarkbTL;DR I may not be here tomorrow19:03
clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:03
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2020/infra.2020-01-28-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting19:04
clarkbI had an action to file a story about the gitea OOM process. I did that. Let me find a link19:05
clarkb#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200723719:05
clarkbWith that I think we can dive right into our priority topics19:06
clarkb#topic Priority Topics19:06
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clarkb#topic OpenDev19:06
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mordredo/19:06
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703134/ Split OpenDev out of OpenStack Governance19:06
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/703488/ Update OpenDev docs with new Governance19:06
clarkbIgot a bit sniped last week doing config management things, but these chanegs don't have comments that need to be addressed. Will try to push the TC to move things along19:07
clarkbThe gitea bug about poor performance on large repos has been closed19:07
clarkblunny added a commit cache to gitea19:07
clarkbThis is supposed to have a major impact on rendering performance based on the issue and PR conversations19:08
clarkbI think this will end up in Gitea 1.1219:08
mordredneat!19:08
clarkbI'm not sure if we want to run an unreleased version to pick that up early. Or just wait. But thought I would call it out so that people are aware that in the (hopefully near) future gitea performance should improve a lot19:08
corvusyowza!19:08
fungithat's excellent news19:09
mordredwe've run unreleased before  - we could certainly git it a shot19:09
fungias long as we don't run into cache invalidation issues of course ;)19:09
mordredmaybe we shoudl at least go ahead and propose a change to try building images from current master so we can see what's broken19:09
clarkbmordred: ++19:09
* mordred will propose that change19:09
clarkbI think we also have to configure using the cache as it isn't enabled by default19:09
clarkbso we can figure that out in those changes too19:09
fungiyeah, i'm not opposed to running unreleased gitea for this since it would allow us to give them feedback sooner on real-world performance gains19:10
mordredhttps://review.opendev.org/705804 WIP Build gitea images from master19:11
* diablo_rojo sneaks in late19:11
mordredwe'll see first if it even builds19:12
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clarkbthank you for that.19:13
clarkbAs far as operations go I think we'll want to monitor its memory consumption but I don't expect it to be too bad19:13
clarkbits a small number of records19:13
clarkbcompared to git operations for large repos it should save us memory19:13
clarkbAnything else opendev related or should we continue?19:14
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mordredclarkb: I just made that patch 3 patches19:15
mordredone to upgrade us to 1.10.3 - one to upgrade to 1.11 and one to go to master19:15
mordredsince we should probably do all three of those things :)19:15
clarkbmakes sense19:15
clarkb#topic Update Configuration Management19:16
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fungii wonder if the commit cache will also absorb the oom issues we've been seeing19:16
clarkbfungi: we'll likely just have to update and monitor19:16
clarkbmordred: did you want to give us an update on review-dev?19:17
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mordredI do!19:19
mordredso - I have a patch up to add apache to the ansible ... but that then shone a light on the use of old-style certs and whatnot19:19
mordredSO - I've spun up a new review-dev.opendev.org and am working on getting it LE'd19:20
mordredso that the role can just be written to work with LE and not need to handle getting cert data from heira19:20
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mordredthis brings me to the question I have for folks ...19:20
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mordredhow do we deal with functional testing of apaches that are configured to use LE certs19:20
mordred?19:20
corvusi guess that's a smooth enough process that incorporating it shouldn't add too much to the whole effort19:20
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mordredyeah - it's actually super easy so far - less effort that handling the logical branches for the other thing19:21
mordredexcept for the testing question19:21
clarkbmordred: we do have functional testing of that using the LE roles, its mostly transparent to the testing19:21
corvusdo we have a functional test of an apache that uses le?19:22
clarkbianw can probably describe it better. But in your test jobs you add the LE roles as per usual but set the "I'm a test flag" then it sets up self signed certs as if they came from LE19:22
mordredclarkb: oh - cool19:22
clarkbcorvus: I don't know that we have it for apache specifically but we have other things doing it for sure19:22
mordredhttps://opendev.org/opendev/system-config/src/branch/master/playbooks/roles/static/files/50-security.openstack.org.conf#L20-L2219:22
mordredthere's an example apache we have with LE certs19:22
mordredso there's a flag I can set in a test job and the LE roles will make me self-signed certs and put them in the right place?19:22
mordredNEAT19:22
* mordred hands ianw a giant pie19:23
* mordred will figure that out - now that he knows it exists19:23
clarkbmordred: https://opendev.org/opendev/system-config/src/branch/master/.zuul.yaml#L1085-L1112 should cover that example19:23
corvusmeeting is a win already19:23
mordredAH19:23
mordredI just have to run the letsencrypt service playbook19:24
mordredthat's so cool19:24
ianw(yeah, there's some examples in testinfra too of various flags to connect for testing)19:24
fungiit is an amazing emergent behavior19:24
fungi(granted one which took some initial effort to support i'm sure)19:25
corvusyeah, looks like it's completely automatic because of playbooks/zuul/templates/group_vars/letsencrypt.yaml.j219:25
corvus(a group-var which applies to all letsencrypt hosts but is only included in ci)19:25
clarkbSemi related to ^ I've been working with our docker + ansible + testing stuff recently in the refstack rebuild and its really neat how we've built somethign that is testable end to end.19:25
mordredclarkb: ++19:26
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corvusi feel like it may be time for a new conference talk, because "here's how you can test your app end-to-end from source code change through gitops to containerized deployment (with certs!)" is like catnip for sysadmins.19:28
corvusthrow speculative dns in there and you'd really have something. ;)19:28
clarkbthe really great non obvious thing is it means people can push changes and have a fair degree of confidence that they will work with having root or setting up a complex local system19:29
corvus[without] ^19:29
clarkbright without19:30
clarkbAnything else on the subject of updating our config management tooling?19:30
clarkb#topic General Topics19:32
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clarkbWe made great progress and further removing trusty last week19:32
clarkbstatus.openstack.org has been upgraded. It does need a gerritlib release to get the gerrit stream events portion of elastic-recheck's bot working again19:32
clarkbbut otherwise it is happy19:32
mordredcool19:32
clarkbI was planning to do a gerritlib release on thurdsay (when I'll have time to keep an eye on it). If someone else wants to do it before then feel free19:33
mordredfwiw - review-dev01.opendev.org is running Xenial, since that's what review01.openstack.org is running19:33
clarkbmordred: ++19:33
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clarkbfungi reported success logging into a wiki-dev with some more recent updates19:33
clarkbfungi: are we at the point where that is actually automatable to get a working wiki server?19:33
funginot yet, at least not any more "working" than the current state of wiki-dev.o.o19:34
fungisome of the plugins aren't operable yet so they need individual troubleshooting19:35
clarkbI see19:35
fungiparticularly the openid login isn't displaying19:35
fungilogin link19:35
clarkbdirectly navigating to the url to login works now though?19:35
fungii haven't tested that yet19:35
fungialso there are a few spam control related config options set on wiki.o.o which need to get copied to the template in the puppet module19:36
clarkbare there any outstanding changes that need review?19:36
fungii think we got all the ones from before i left for fosdem merged. hopefully i'll have more up this week19:36
clarkbsounds good, thanks19:36
clarkbI started looking into a refstack.o.o upgrade last week as well. I quickly realized that a lot of the puppet just wouldn't work anymore beacuse of chagnes to nodejs and friends on ubuntu19:37
clarkbrather than rewrite a bunch of puppet I started looking into deploying refstack with docker and ansible instead. refstack has a dockerfile, but I can't make it work ebcause it accesses files outside of its Dockerfile dir. Also it is a fat container with nginx, mysql, and refstack all running in one container.19:38
clarkbWhat I'ev done instead is build it on top of our python-builder + python-base images. To get that to work I need changes in refstack to support python3.719:38
mordred++19:38
clarkbThose changes appear to be fairly minimal but we still need someone to maintain the software for this to work. Sorting out if those people exist is where I am at now19:38
* mordred supports clarkb's effort19:39
clarkbIt sounds like there is probably still interest and I can probably get some reviews (maybe I have them already, haven't checked today yet)19:39
clarkbIf I can get those changes landed then my next step is adding apache proxy to my change with LE support baked in. Then we schedule a downtime and do a cutover and copy database stuff19:39
clarkb#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/705258/ if you are curiuous to see what that looks like in its current form19:40
clarkbAnd that takes us to static.opendev.org progress19:41
clarkbianw: ^ I think you have all the updates on this?19:41
ianwyeah i have a few things ready for review19:41
ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:static-services+(status:open+OR+status:merged)19:42
ianwin short, this renames the upload-afs role to upload-afs-roots, and adds a new upload-afs-synchronize role19:42
ianwupload-afs-roots is very helpful for doc updates where you want to keep various directories but not others, upload-afs-synchronize is more a straight copy, better for things like tarballs19:42
ianwalso, thanks to corvus and clarkb for fixing my oops destroying the zuul kerberos keytab by issuing a new one19:43
ianwi have a plan in19:43
ianw#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200659819:43
corvus"improved security posture due to unscheduled key rotation" :)19:43
mordred\o/19:44
ianwtask  38607 to add a new keytab for project.tarballs, if anyone would like to comment19:44
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ianw#link https://review.opendev.org/70491319:44
clarkbianw: do we need to do a careful rollout of those role changes to avoid breaking jobs?19:44
ianwis also part but can go in, to setup the servers19:44
clarkb(that might already be encoded in the changes?)19:45
ianwclarkb: at this point, no, it's not a big switch19:45
corvusit's worth noting that in kerberos, whenever you issue a keytabe, you invalidate old keytab versions of the same principal.  that's a non-obvious side effect.  we've added warning boxes to the docs to remind folks.19:45
ianwwe have just one testing job on project-config that actually uses the secret and uploads19:45
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clarkbgot it19:45
ianwafter this is all in though, yes changes to the base jobs to publish will want careful attention, and synchronizing switching dns for tarballs.<opendev|openstack>.org19:46
ianwi think that's it for that, really just reviews right now19:47
clarkbthank you for the update. /me makes a note to try and review those19:47
clarkbNext and update on the new arm64 ci cloud19:47
clarkbunfortunately it looks like nb03.o.o is still unable to talk to us.linaro.cloud. But kevinz is back from holidays and aware of the problem19:48
clarkbianw: ^ have we heard anything new on that?19:48
ianwyes we've corresponded some, he has confirmed the issue but has not root cause nor eta for fixing it19:48
ianwat this point, we may have to consider bringing up a nodepool builder in the us cloud itself that just uploads there19:49
clarkbthat seems like a reasonable workaround19:49
ianw(although, now i think about it, i haven't tested if *it* can talk to london ...)19:49
clarkbya we might need separate builders :/19:49
clarkbnot great since we want synchronized images, but workable19:50
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ianwwget https://uk.linaro.cloud:5000 works on the us mirror ... how odd19:50
clarkbprobably a firewall somewhere19:51
ianwso i guess we could move the builder to the us cloud, and it may work everywhere?19:51
clarkbianw: ya if you can hit uk from us then probably that would work19:51
ianwok, i can look into that path to get it going19:52
clarkbLast item on the agenda is an update on the airshipci cloud. The chagne to start uploading images there just merged. I've also laid out a rough nl02 config for what I think this looks like. Basically two pools. One with generic resources and the other with airship's more special resources. Currently the more special resources are modelled after fortnebula's extra memory labels19:52
ianw#link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/200719519:52
ianw^ story on arm64 cloud, will add things there as we go19:52
clarkbI've got an email out to roman to provide a bit more input on what we need in that second pool and from there I'll work with the cloud to get quotas updated19:53
clarkbI do still need to build a mirror but since they are all in europe I figured getting a head start on the quota related stuff would be a good idea19:53
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clarkbAnd that concludes the planned agenda19:54
clarkb#topic Open Discussion19:54
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clarkbAnything else to bring up?19:54
* fungi has nothing, just excited to catch up on everything that's happened over/around the weekend19:56
corvusfungi: any chance you can send out a fosdem report covering zuul topics?19:56
fungii have it on my to do list, yes19:58
fungithough the short version is: people like our stickers19:58
fungi(and that causes them to pick up literature and learn more)19:59
fungi(and to ask about zuul)19:59
corvusthere were talks too, right?19:59
fungialso our table was placed adjacent to the jenkins table both days19:59
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clarkband we are at time now20:00
fungithere were no zuul-specific talks, there was going to be one but mnaser fell ill and the rest of us didn't find until his talk was cancelled so couldn't fill in for him20:00
clarkbthank you everyone20:00
clarkbWe'll see you next week20:00
fungithanks clarkb!20:00
clarkband feel free to continue discussion in our nromal conversation channels (irc and mailing lists)20:00
clarkb#endmeeting20:00
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martialGood day everybody20:59
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martial#start-meeting scientific-sig21:01
martial(sigh I do this all the time)21:01
martial#startmeeting scientific-sig21:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  4 21:01:25 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:01
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martialTim, are you around?21:02
martialif so, do you want to talk about your upcoming conference?21:02
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jandersHi Martial21:05
martialOkay, seems that it is going to be an easy meeting as there are few people around21:05
martial(or not)21:05
martialHi Janders :)21:05
janderssorry got disconnected a couple times21:05
jandershow is it going?21:05
martialdoing well thanks21:05
martialnot much to cover this week; only a couple announcements about the NOT Summit in June21:06
martial#link https://www.openstack.org/events/opendev-ptg-2020/21:06
jandersso - on high level it looks like the "classic" Summit component got removed and it's just OpenDev+PTG now?21:07
martialthat is the OpenDSev + PTG21:07
martialthat is correct :)21:08
martialthe "Summit" will be October 19-23: Open Infrastructure Summit Berlin21:08
jandersright!21:08
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b1airoo/21:09
jandersdo you know if it's just this edition that's organised this way, or is the Foundation effectively dropping the "Summit" component frequency to once a year?21:09
jandershey Blair!21:09
b1airohey hey! apologies for the late join21:09
martialI heard it was once a year21:09
martialglad you made it21:09
martialwelcome b1airo21:09
b1airoi'm in another meeting... (as usual)21:09
martialthought you were not able to do it21:09
martialahhh that sounds about right :)21:10
martialso yes the OpenDev + PTG is held in North America (we like Vancouver I have to say)21:10
martialand the "Summit" will be in Europe (Berlin) this year21:11
jandersWill Berlin have PTG as well?21:11
martialunclear as of now21:11
martialusually it is announced on the same page21:11
martialbut that page is not yet available21:11
martialI also need to confirm "Upstream Academy"21:11
b1airobit of flux - understandable21:13
martialgood news is that we have dates at this point21:14
martialI think so far our plan will be to setup a PTG session at the June event for whoever can make it, likely late morning to afternoon with a VTC for people that want to join but can not make it to the location21:15
martialPTG is a good opportunity for the team to discuss upcoming work and continue our usual outreach21:16
martialwith the Open Infrastructure side, a lot of K8s components as well and that is good21:17
martialbeyond those two short announcements, little else to cover officially so ...21:19
martialAOB ?21:19
jandersnone from my side21:20
martialpropose to adjourn early then?21:21
b1airook with me - i'm rather distracted sorry21:22
martialThanks everybody for participating, talk soon :)21:22
martial#endmeeting21:22
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