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brinzhangamotoki: Could you please review this patch for horizon, he changes to Django based implementation too. https://review.opendev.org/#/c/66413209:18
patchbotpatch 664132 - horizon - Add container_format 'ovf' when editing image - 10 patch sets09:18
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amotokibrinzhang: ??? I am surprised that the meeting channel is used.10:30
brinzhangamotoki: maybe I should find you in #openstack-horizon channel, next :)10:31
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efried#startmeeting nova14:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  5 14:01:31 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)"14:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'14:01
cdenthi14:01
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efried#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting14:02
gibi\o14:02
efried#topic Last meeting14:03
efried#link Minutes from last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2019/nova.2019-08-29-21.01.html14:03
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stephenfino/14:03
efriedLast week it was just me, mriedem, and aspiers. We decided not to approve https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/policy-rule-for-host-status-unknown for Train.14:03
efriedmelwitt wasn't there to defend herself14:03
efried#topic Release News14:04
efriedFeature freeze in one week.14:04
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efriedWe have many things that are pretty close.14:05
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efriedIt may be worthwhile to have a list of those things somewhere.14:06
dansmithmaybe we should call out some here?14:06
dansmithI can start and summarize NUMA LM if you want14:06
efriedhit it14:06
efried#link NUMA LM: https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/numa-aware-live-migration14:07
mriedemhttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/673133/ was +2 yesterday and i'll likely +2 today14:07
patchbotpatch 673133 - nova - Add delete_on_termination to volume-attach API - 16 patch sets14:07
dansmithNUMA LM is close, has seen a lot of review, is four patches (not counting an extra test patch and a conf deprecation), and actually has CI tests that prove the new code in public14:07
dansmithit enables us to migrate instances with numa topologies instead of silently screwing up hosts when we allow it to happen (as today) and moves that code to use the same claims process as other migrations14:08
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dansmithbottom three patches have a +2 from me, radeks is going to look today14:08
dansmithfin.14:08
dansmithwhoopsie, mriedem  :)14:08
efried#link AMD SEV https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/amd-sev-libvirt-support14:09
mriedemalso seems like forbidden aggregates should get another push14:09
efriedThis is close, has seen a lot of review14:09
efriedaspiers has been responsive to feedback. Much of the series has been +2ed at various points in the past.14:09
mriedemi feel like there are new sev patches every day14:10
mriedembut that's just because i see them posted to the bp in lp14:10
dansmithI haven't followed the SEV stuff, but I thought it was still struggling14:10
mriedemhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/support-move-ops-with-qos-ports is getting review from myself and bauzas, should be doable by next week14:10
gibiI focus on that ^^14:10
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efried#link virtual persistent memory https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/virtual-persistent-memory14:12
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efriedstephenfin and I have been reviewing the bulk of the series. Otherwise need dansmith's nod on the bottom two patches.14:12
dansmithI just would-be--2'd the second patch14:12
dansmithbecause it stores an unversioned json blob in a string field14:13
dansmithso some more object modeling is needed there14:13
efriedwhen that object is hypervisor-specific, is there still a way to model it generically at this level?14:13
dansmithsee the live migrate data object hierarchy14:14
efriedack14:14
dansmithjson-in-a-string-field is never going to be the answer though14:14
efriedack14:14
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efried#link forbidden aggregates https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/placement-req-filter-forbidden-aggregates14:15
efriedhas been really close for quite a while, is very simple, has had lots of +2s14:15
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gibiI can re-review that ^^14:16
dansmithI will take a look at that when we're done here14:16
dansmithat least the object stuff14:16
dansmithobject and b14:16
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efriedIIRC I was basically +2 all the way up, just waiting for the other reviewers who have weighed in to make sure they're satisfied.14:17
efriedstephenfin: I think that's you on the bottom one?14:17
stephenfinwhich bottom one?14:17
efriedand/or gibi, dansmith14:17
efriedstephenfin: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671072/1114:17
patchbotpatch 671072 - nova - Nova object changes for forbidden aggregates reque... - 11 patch sets14:17
stephenfinSure. dansmith should look too though14:18
dansmithyep, I will right after this14:18
efriedand top one14:18
efriedOkay, what else is close for FF?14:18
mriedemhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/train is relatively up to date if that helps14:19
mriedemfor what's open14:19
mriedemlots of things in there should probably just be deferred at this point14:19
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efriedgadzooks14:20
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efriedoh, ignore 'implemented'14:20
efriedphew, that's easier on the eyes.14:21
efriedstill 23 opens14:21
dansmithis the cyborg stuff not happening?14:21
dansmithI haven't re-looked at that in a few weeks14:21
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bauzasI plan to do a couple of other reviews next week14:21
dansmithbut it seemed like not much review was going on at the time14:21
mriedemi don't think any cores are reviewing the cyborg series14:22
efriedcyborg hasn't gotten enough review attention14:22
efriedyeah14:22
dansmithso is that a defer already?14:22
bauzasmriedem: I can do that if that helps14:22
mriedemi would defer it,14:22
efriedSeems likely a defer, unfortunately.14:22
mriedemthe cyborg side patches for placement integration just merged this week14:22
bauzask14:22
* bauzas bbiab14:22
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mriedemanywho, we shouldn't step through these one by one in this meeting,14:23
mriedemthis is where an etherpad of what's open and its status would be useful14:23
mriedemto sort out what should be deferred and what's close14:23
efriedagreed. Can I get a volunteer to put that together?14:23
dansmithmaybe eric propose a list of things to go ahead and defer14:23
dansmithand we can review it14:23
efriedI would hate for the time spent on PM crap to detract from review time to the point of affecting what is able to land.14:24
efriedand you can quote me on that.14:24
efriedbut see the necessity.14:24
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dansmithwell, don't do it then14:25
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dansmithwe can just see what lands and then mark everything that doesn't after the dust settles14:25
efriedlet me put it this way:14:26
mriedemi'll defer cross-cell-resize i know that's not happening14:26
gibimriedem: at least we tried14:26
mriedemgibi: it's a multi-release effort anyway, i have no illusions about that14:27
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efriedI see the list exercise going one of two ways14:28
efried1) I (or someone) put together this list and prioritize it and the core team looks at it and reviews things in priority order.14:28
efried2) List is put together and we spend the next week arguing about priorities and not reviewing.14:28
efriedgiven history, which do you think is more likely?14:28
efriedso14:28
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efriedlet's take a spin through the blueprints today and defer the things that are obviously deferrable14:28
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efriedand let the rest sit as dansmith suggests and sweep up the pieces after FF.14:29
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mriedemsounds good14:29
dansmithto be clear, that was not my suggestion :)14:29
dansmiththat was my concession if we're not going to plan, but whatever :)14:29
* gmann thinking about policy-defaults-refresh 14:29
mriedemgmann: if it hasn't had core review yet it's likely DOA for train14:30
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efrieddansmith: concession is a good word for it. I'm in an unusually (for me) cynical mood at the moment, but I don't feel like "planning" is going to have an impact for the positive.14:31
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gmannmriedem: its lot of changes and first set and framework has one one +214:31
dansmithefried: roger that, as long as we're clear14:31
efriedI could go through and say "we're going to do these things, and we're not going to do these other things"14:31
dansmithefried: and for the cliche auditors: failure to plan is planning to fail :P14:31
efriedbut there's no way to enforce the plan14:32
dansmithnope, it's lead by example14:32
dansmithit's cool14:32
dansmithI'm hip, let's just move on14:32
efriedgive me a sec14:33
efried#action efried to defer obviously-deferrable blueprints14:35
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efried#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)14:35
efriedNo Critical bugs14:35
efried#link 76 new untriaged bugs (+1 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New14:35
efried#link 4 untagged untriaged bugs (-2 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW14:35
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efriedany bugs we should be prioritizing in the next week?14:36
mriedemsomeone more in the know should triage this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/184261614:36
openstackLaunchpad bug 1842616 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NUMA vcpus not correctly allocated against numa regions" [Undecided,New]14:36
mriedemstephenfin: yonglihe: sean-k-mooney: ^14:36
efriedartom: ^14:36
artomefried, looking14:36
efriedif possible I would like to reserve stephenfin for core reviews14:36
efriedthanks artom14:36
efried#topic Gate status14:37
efried#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html14:37
efried#link 3rd party CI status (seems to be back in action) http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova14:37
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efriedanecdotally, grenade-y stuff failing pretty frequently of late. I haven't looked into it at all. mriedem, have you?14:37
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mriedemnot off the top of my head14:38
mriedemi've been looking at failures but not aware of anything obvious / known14:38
efriedight. It can probably wait until crunch is over.14:38
cdenta few days ago some cinder stuff was unhappy, but it cleared up.14:38
efried#topic Reminders14:38
efriedFeature freeze in one week14:38
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efriedany other reminders?14:38
efried#topic Stable branch status14:39
efried#link stable/stein: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/stein14:39
efried#link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/rocky14:39
efried#link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+(project:openstack/os-vif+OR+project:openstack/python-novaclient+OR+project:openstack/nova)+branch:stable/queens14:39
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efriedmriedem: anything in stable we can't ignore for a week?14:39
mriedemi haven't looked lately so idk14:39
efriedk14:39
efried#topic Sub/related team Highlights14:39
efriedPlacement (cdent)14:39
efried#link latest pupdate http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008935.html14:39
efriedConsumer Types: cdent continuing this work14:39
efried#link consumer types (in progress) https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/placement+branch:master+topic:bp/support-consumer-types14:39
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efriedcdent: your mic14:39
cdentthat consumer types stuff is basically done, so if people want something to look at in between things that are higher priority, it could become "ready for nova in U" pretty easily14:40
cdentthe only other thing is that placement is currently PTL-less for U, but there are a few plan bs available, waiting on more info to figure it out, not critical rush14:41
cdentEOF14:41
* mriedem read that as plan bullsh*t14:41
cdentmight work too14:41
cdentbut I meant Bs14:41
cdentbeeeeeees14:41
gibiplan c can be the polite cannibalism..14:42
cdentquite so14:42
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efriedAPI (gmann)14:42
efrieddid not get the chance to send updates on ML. Few highlights are:14:42
efriedmicroversion 2.78 is on gate: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/621476/ which need Brin 'delete_on_termination' to rebase.14:42
efriedAdded policy-defaults-refresh BP in runway. First set and framework has +2 from kenichi and need second review.14:42
patchbotpatch 621476 - nova - Add server sub-resource topology API (MERGED) - 62 patch sets14:42
artomThis https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1842616 is invalid14:42
openstackLaunchpad bug 1842616 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "NUMA vcpus not correctly allocated against numa regions" [Undecided,Invalid]14:42
artom*Think14:42
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gmannmain updates was for policy-defaults-refresh which i will wait for final decision14:42
gmannit is updates for all the policies and we should do it in single cycle.14:43
gmannfor upgrade benefits14:43
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efried#link policy defaults refresh https://review.opendev.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/policy-defaults-refresh14:44
efriedgmann: how much of that are you realistically expecting for Train?14:44
gmannefried: if i read it properly. tomorrow is going to be the list of possible go in Train ?14:44
mriedemFF is next thursday14:44
mriedemthe question is how much should we spread the core team on things and risk not landing many, or rushing and merging regressions,14:45
efriedgmann: The only thing I'm going to do is defer things that are obviously not going to make it. Whatever's left is going to be wild west style. Because trying to organize anything more crisp is an exercise in futility and frustration.14:45
mriedemor focusing on a smaller set that are already being actively reviewed14:45
gmanntill next Thursday will not be possible i think. we can get scope things in if we try but that also lot of patches14:45
mriedemprobably not a surprise that i'm goign to say i don't feel great about rushing in policy change stuff last minute14:46
mriedemsince that impacts upgrades14:46
gmannok, in that case I will say defer and get all policy changes in in ussuri14:46
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gmannmriedem: agree.14:46
efriedgmann: starting here https://review.opendev.org/#/c/674038/5 ?14:46
patchbotpatch 674038 - nova - Pass RequestContext to oslo_policy - 5 patch sets14:46
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gmannefried: yes14:47
gmanntill here it is for one API policy - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/648480/1614:47
patchbotpatch 648480 - nova - Add new default roles in os-services API policies - 16 patch sets14:47
gmannkind of 4 patches per API policy14:47
efriedokay, I put a -2 on that patch, moved the bp to Needs Approval and targeted for series ussuri14:48
efriedmriedem: any other paperwork necessary to defer a thing?14:48
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gmannok14:49
mriedemefried: nope, i just leave a comment in the whiteboard saying why it's being deferred14:50
efriedthx14:50
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efried#topic Stuck Reviews14:50
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mriedemi just did that in the policy defaults bp14:50
efriedany?14:50
efriedmriedem: oh, no merge conflict in bp whiteboard, you overwrote my note14:50
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mriedemwhy don't they use generations?14:50
efried#topic Open discussion14:51
efriedMove/kill 2100 meeting slot?14:51
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mriedemthe alternative to that is leave 2100 and change this meeting to be more APAC/EU friendly14:52
mriedem?14:52
mriedemobviously would need a different chair for that14:52
dansmithso, once DST goes, I can't attend this slot14:52
dansmiththe 2100 one is the only one I would make14:52
gibiI can chair an EU friendly slot14:52
dansmithI expect that's the same for anyone in Pacific time14:52
efriedSo I guess just making all the meetings be in this slot isn't an option. And I'm guessing the slots an hour or two later are probably pretty chocobloc14:53
cdentso, for reference, the is the one openstack meeting I've ever attended that is actually useful14:53
mriedemso maybe suggest options in the ML, see if there is interest in moving this meeting to APAC/EU friendly time and if so but after a month or two no one shows up we could cancel it - or just outright cancel this one14:53
cdentmaybe wait until after FF14:54
cdentor even RC14:54
efriedyeah, let's do that.14:54
efriedIt may have just been an anomaly (for several meetings in a row) that attendance at the later meeting was almost nonexistent.14:55
efried(mriedem): Should we deprecate the xen driver before releasing Train? We added a quality warning https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662295/ with the idea of deprecating if no changes and there haven't been. Deprecation doesn't mean we remove in U but it leaves the option and sends a clear signal.14:55
patchbotpatch 662295 - nova - xenapi: log quality warning in init_host (MERGED) - 1 patch set14:55
mriedemjust following up on the plan from the ptg14:55
cdentyes, follow through14:56
mriedemquality warning post-ptg, deprecation by end of train of no improvement14:56
mriedem*if14:56
efriedYeah, I haven't seen any xen activity, so pull the trigger. Is this a trigger that can wait a week to be pulled?14:56
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cdent3 minute warning14:57
efriedmriedem: that last question was for you. Guess it doesn't need to be answered right now14:57
efriedany other opens?14:57
efriedtoday is my birthday14:58
mriedemwell happy birthday14:58
efriedone year ago today I seem to recall we merged roughly my-age patches toward placement extraction14:58
gmannhappy birthday :)14:58
dansmithefried: deprecation can be done now with no ill effects, not much point in waiting I think14:58
cdentthat was a year ago?14:58
cdentjeebus14:58
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efriedikr, it must have been, but I had a hard time believing that14:58
cdenthappy birthday efried and placement extraction14:58
bauzasgood b'day14:59
efriedthanks all14:59
efriedOkay, if there's nothing else...?14:59
cdentkill it14:59
efriedOh, and I'm taking the afternoon off14:59
efriedo/14:59
efried#endmeeting14:59
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gagehugo#startmeeting security15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep  5 15:00:09 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'security'15:00
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gagehugo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda agenda15:00
gagehugoo/15:01
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fungiquiet meeting ;)15:05
gagehugoyup15:13
gagehugofungi: anything new?15:13
gagehugootherwise we can end early15:13
fungi#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841933 Fetching metadata via LB may result with wrong instance data15:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1841933 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Fetching metadata via LB may result with wrong instance data" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Kobi Samoray (ksamoray)15:15
fungithat's public as of a few minutes ago15:15
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gagehugocool15:17
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fungii had nothing else, this week has been a bit of a washout for me15:19
gagehugoAre you getting a visit from Dorian?15:20
funginot personally, because i evacuated. my house on the other hand... watching and waiting15:20
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gagehugoah ok, hopefully it's not too bad then15:24
gagehugogonna end early, thanks fungi, hope everything stays calm there15:24
gagehugo#endmeeting15:24
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fungithanks gagehugo!15:25
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