Tuesday, 2019-02-05

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samPHi all for masakari04:00
samP#startmeeting masakari04:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  5 04:00:16 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
tpatilHi04:00
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samPtpatil: Hi04:00
samPSorry for long absent04:00
samP#topic Critical Bugs and patches04:01
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samPAny bugs or patches need to discuss?04:01
tpatilI have noticed that you have approved couple of patches few mins back.04:02
tpatilNo open bug to be discussed as of now04:03
samPtpatil: yes.04:03
samPtpatil: thanks.04:03
samP#topic Stein Work Items04:03
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samPAny update on Stein Work Items?04:03
tpatilAdd functional tests04:04
tpatil#link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/633663/04:04
tpatilAdded multi-node functional CI job and few tests for segments API to start with04:04
samPtpatil: Thanks, I will review this04:04
tpatilFirst we will target black box testing04:05
tpatiland to test notifications, we plan to write few white box tests as well04:05
tpatil2) Add event notification feature04:07
samPtpatil: got it. Thanks.04:07
tpatilNeed to review the specs : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473057/04:07
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tpatilPatches are also ready : https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/notifications-in-masakari+(status:open+OR+status:merged)04:07
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tpatilI had reviewed these patches once so waiting for other core reviewers to review these patches04:07
samPtpatil: sure, I will review those patches. Thanks for great work04:08
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tpatil3) Add progress details for recovery workflow04:09
tpatilSpecs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632079/04:09
tpatilImplementation is in progress. We plan to complete this before milestone 304:10
tpatilWith this, operator will be able to see the progress of recovery workflow in horizon dashboard04:10
tpatilInformation will be displayed in tabular format04:10
samPtpatil: thanks. I will review the sepc04:11
tpatilMaybe in the next releaser cycle, we will plan to add a realtime graph04:11
tpatils/releaser/release04:11
tpatil4) Add devstack support for masakari-monitors04:12
samPtpatil: sure, we can add those to next release todo04:13
tpatilwork is in progress. We have planned to complete it before milestone 3 except hostmonitor04:13
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samPtpatil: Thanks.04:15
samPsorry, but no updates from my side.04:15
samPany other updates?04:15
tpatilWe have identified one issue in unit tests04:16
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tpatilAll novaclient calls are mocked and so becoz of it issues like this one : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/627097/ was not identified04:16
tpatilso we are planning to refactor all such unit tests to make sure that actual novaclient code is called. For this, we have planned to mock requests call04:17
samPtpatil: need some time to study this. Are you planning to submit work in this release?04:19
tashiromtsorry i dont have any updates, and i also will confirm the spec04:20
samPtashiromt: thanks04:20
tpatilsamP: Yes04:20
tpatilI will report a LP bug to describe why do we need to refactor all such unit tests04:21
samPtpatil: got it. thanks04:21
tpatilThat's all update I have for now04:23
samPtpatil: thanks04:24
samP#topic AOB04:24
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samPAny other items to discuss?04:24
samPFor Denver summit, I will there only for PTG04:24
samPIt will be May 2-4.04:25
tpatilOk. I will also attend PTG + user summit04:25
samPtpatil: great. BTW, please check the flights if you have not checked yet. Due to Golden week, most tickets are already sold.04:27
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tpatilsamP: Thank you for the update. Will check04:28
samPtpatil: np04:28
Shilpaheard that there will be 2 weeks holiday this time in Japan, not confirm04:28
Shilpafor Golden Week04:28
ShilpaAnd flight Tickets are too high04:28
samPShilpa: yes it is. but ruined by the summit ;)04:29
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ShilpasamP: hmm04:31
samPif no other items to discuss, we can finish today's meeting here04:31
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tpatilOk04:32
Shilpaok04:32
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tashiromtsamP: thank you for your information about summit , i dont have any topics04:32
samPThank you all!04:32
samP#endmeeting04:33
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dkushwaha#startmeeting tacker08:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  5 08:03:29 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dkushwaha. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:03
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dkushwaha#topic Roll Call08:03
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joxyukihello08:03
dkushwahawho is here for Tacker weekly meeting?08:03
dkushwahajoxyuki, howdy08:04
bhagyashris_Hi08:04
dkushwahahi bhagyashris_08:05
dkushwahaok lets start..08:07
dkushwaha#topic announcement08:07
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dkushwahaWe are in the last mont of Stein.08:07
dkushwaha#link https://releases.openstack.org/stein/schedule.html08:07
dkushwahaPlease target the stuffs on priorities08:09
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dkushwahaMy plan is as:08:10
dkushwaha1: finalize specs08:10
dkushwaha2: finish client patches for features.08:10
dkushwaha3: Test and merge server patches08:11
dkushwahaand after that Stein release we will have around 2 weeks for RC08:11
dkushwahamoving next..08:12
dkushwaha#topic BPs08:12
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dkushwaha#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/56184008:13
tpatildkushwaha: Hi08:13
dkushwahatpatil, hello08:13
tpatilI have replied to your comment on above specs08:13
tpatilWe have added server_group_id in the VDU08:14
tpatilyou are asking us to generalized it. Can you please elaborate on this point?08:15
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tpatilWhen you create a lease in Blazar, then for each reservation it will create a server_group in nova. So that server group id should be mentioned in the VDU properties08:16
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dkushwahatpatil,  My point is to keep TOSCA generalized, what i understand : server_group_id and reservation_id both are for reservation but different type.08:18
dkushwahaSo IMO it would be great if we keep it parameterized.08:18
dkushwahaPlease see https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/samples/tosca-templates/vnfd/tosca-vnfd-http-monitor.yaml#L2508:18
dkushwahahttps://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/samples/tosca-templates/vnfd/tosca-vnfd-monitor.yaml#L2508:19
tpatilwe have already added "tosca.policies.tacker.Reservation" type under policies08:19
dkushwahatpatil, yes that is fine08:20
tpatilso is it ok to  add reservation_id and server_group_id under ""tosca.policies.tacker.Reservation"" type properties08:20
tpatiland then we will need to tied that up with target (VDU1, VDU2) etc08:21
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tpatilor other possibility is to add reservation_policy under each VDU as done in case of monitor_policy08:23
dkushwahatpatil, http://paste.openstack.org/show/744545/08:23
joxyukitpatil, I think that is better.08:23
dkushwahai mean something like that ^^08:23
tpatildkushwaha: Got your point, will make necessary changes in the specs and code08:24
dkushwahatpatil, that is one of my suggestion, I needs your all inputs on that08:24
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tpatileven though  we have aded server_group_id in properties of VDU section, Tosca-parser is not complaining about it. Maybe it's not enforcing all rules as defined by TOSCA standards08:26
tpatilBut I agree to add these options under reservation_meta as suggested to keep things simple and clear08:26
dkushwahaWe needs TOSCA experts guys for that :)08:27
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dkushwahatpatil, IMO, In that way we will be open for further improvements and independent of projects08:27
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tpatildkushwaha: Agree08:28
dkushwahamoving next..08:29
dkushwahaphuoc, are you here?08:29
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dkushwahaFolks, do you have something more to discuss?08:30
bhagyashris_yes08:30
bhagyashris_Just want to disused regarding the fix “Add vnf to monitor after restarting the tacker service”.08:31
bhagyashris_Currently two patches are up for review (stable.queens and stable/pike) but because of test case failing issue, Zulu jobs are failing on patches,08:31
bhagyashris_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/630914/  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631108/08:31
bhagyashris_And we can not cherry pick this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/631439/ to fix this issue08:32
bhagyashris_So I will need to make changes in the patches itself.08:32
bhagyashris_Do we really fix this issue in stable queens and pike?08:33
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dkushwahabhagyashris_, Looks cool. As this is test cases related only, so from my side, I am keeping it on low priority. But that will be really good, if you interested to fix it.08:34
bhagyashris_Ok. Will do the needful08:35
bhagyashris_Thank you :)08:35
dkushwahamoving next..08:37
dkushwaha#topic Open Discussion08:37
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tpatildkushwaha: Whatever changes you have suggested related to server_group_id has no impact on heat-translator, IMO. So we need to request heat team to merge this patch soon : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61915408:38
tpatildkushwaha: and ask heat team to release a new library and then use in tacker. We are following up with heat team for that. but a little push from your end would be appreciated08:39
dkushwahatpatil, I will ping bob and other members to push it up08:40
tpatildkushwaha: Thank you08:40
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dkushwahabhagyashris_, joxyuki tpatil and all Tacker guys, As we are in last month of Stein, So little more help on review and bug fixes are required.08:41
dkushwahaKindly help us on the same, for an smooth release08:42
tpatildkushwaha: Sure08:43
bhagyashris_dkushwaha: yes, will do the needful. :)08:43
dkushwahatpatil, bhagyashris_  thanks08:43
dkushwahaNothing from my side for today.08:43
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dkushwahaI think, we have nothing else for now, so closing this meeting08:45
dkushwahaThanks Folks..08:45
dkushwaha#endmeeting08:45
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mordredclarkb: I'm hickory for my pork,19:04
mordredgah19:04
mordredclarkb: that was a half-written reply to a meeting from a couple of weeks ago :)19:05
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corvushickory for pork ++19:15
corvusthough i also use hickory for brisket cause it's handy19:15
corvusi've got some oak for the fire pit, i should try to cut it down for the smoker19:16
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fungiyeah, not sure what the plans were for a meeting since i've basically been missing in action for the better part of two weeks and am just now starting to catch up19:32
fungi(well, as much as any of us ever catch up i guess)19:33
fungias for smoking meats, i've lately been using apple a lot19:34
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fungipork, beef, poultry, fish... it's been good across the board19:35
fungiworks well for smoked veggies too19:35
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lbragstadoak has been my goto for a while, but i usually stick to a central texas style20:05
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martial#start-meeting #scientific-sig21:00
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martial#startmeeting Scientific-sig21:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb  5 21:01:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig'21:01
martialgood day everyone21:01
martialwelcome to the next edition of the Scientific SIG meeting21:01
b1airohi martial21:01
martial#chair b1airo21:02
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo martial21:02
martialGi Blair21:02
martialHi Blair (typo)21:02
b1airoi was about to type startmeeting when my laptop suddenly powered off, so if i go quiet i may be having computer issues...21:02
martialA couple announcements first:21:03
martial(rgr b1airo)21:03
martialPEARC19 CFP is out21:03
martial#link https://www.pearc19.pearc.org/21:03
b1airoi was thinking about going to PEARC this year, have heard good things...21:04
martialit is turning into a good mini SuperComputing in truth21:04
martialand ISC HP 19 is going to have a container in HPC specific workshop21:05
martialChristian Kniep from Docker is the chair21:05
b1airointeresting...21:06
martialhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/kDWaSrVb/21:06
martialIn conjunction with ISC HIGH PERFORMANCE 201921:06
martialam on the technical committee so I will post as we get the CFP finalized21:07
martialbut FYI21:07
martialif you are coming to PEARC I will add you to this version of the HPC Infrastructure panel21:07
martial(need to finalize it)21:08
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jandersg'day all. Sorry - hardware issues!21:08
b1airohi janders21:08
martialwelcome janders21:08
martialadding to that list ... the "Open Infrastructure Summit" is coming soon :)21:09
martialand we are looking for lightning talk presenters for the SIG BoF at the Summit ... as usual :)21:09
martialso if you are doing something using an Open Infrastructure (not just OpenStack) related to HPC or scientific workflow and are willing to tell us about it (and are coming to the summit) ...21:10
martialthe call is out :)21:10
b1airowe should probably create an etherpad as usual...21:11
b1airodoing so now21:11
b1airo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-denver19-bof21:12
jandersin regards to the Summit - do you guys know what's the approximate timeline for presentation selection?21:12
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b1airolet me check latest emails from the organising committee, janders...21:12
jandersthank you b1airo21:12
martialPast this little tidbit, the usual conversation here :)21:13
martialoh and I know Blair is keen to collect HPC container war stories21:13
b1airocurrent plan appears to be that "The Foundation staff will send the speaker notifications the week of February 19"21:13
jandersI could probably do a storage-related talk - I've got a BeeGFS, GPFS and long-range storage projects going on, at least one should be presentation-worthy by Denver timeframe21:14
martialdo it~21:14
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jandersat this stage I'd say I'm 75% likely to be in Denver, whether my presentation gets in or not will determine how easy it will be to convince my bosses to fund the trip21:15
b1airoi'm not sure there's a fingers cross ascii emoji is there?21:16
b1airo🤞21:16
janders19 Feb notifications - does this mean the voting is on?21:17
martialit is21:17
martial(vote for me :) )21:17
b1airoi think voting may have actually closed already21:18
jandersoops - looks like it has21:19
martialreally?21:19
jandersthis feels like it was an unusually short window..21:20
janderssubmissions only closed like a fortnight ago right?21:20
b1airoyeah i'm always surprised at how quickly this seems to roll around relative to the last Summit21:21
b1airoit does feel like the track finalisation could be pushed at least a couple of weeks closer to the actual Summit, but i'm no events manager (probably a good thing!)21:21
b1airojanders: looks like there was a lot of community interest in your talk ;-)21:22
jandersthank you b1airo! :) good to hear21:22
jandersone of my RH contacts works with the organisers a fair bit, I will ask around about the motivation between accelerating things21:23
jandersI think the Summit is reinventing itself a fair bit, so it's quite likely they will be changing their ways across the board21:23
b1airothis is kind of off topic but janders you might have a pointer i can pass on - Mike Lowe was asking in a separate chat about tracking GPU utilisation against Slurm jobs, i.e., how to tell how much GPU a GPU job has actually used... i'm no Slurm guru but doesn't look obvious21:28
b1airolooks like it might require a job epilogue that uses nvidia-smi's accounting functionality21:29
jandersI don't have an answer off the top of my head but I will ask my Slurm guys and get back to you21:29
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martialI have a couple colleagues at NIST (where I am right now) that are interested in doing a lighting talk on "the use OpenStack for hardware specific ML evaluations"21:29
b1airothrow it in the Etherpad martial21:30
janderswe use Bright and I believe they introduced some functionality to assist with GPU utilisation monitoring. Previously we had a homebrew solution based on nvidia-smi - that I know21:30
b1airothanks janders !21:30
jandersno worries21:30
martialhaving them post it right now21:30
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martialstepping out for a few minutes21:31
b1airoi think we are more-or-less done for today. couple of interesting things in the pipeline for upcoming meetings, but not much to discuss this week without a bigger crew21:33
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janderssounds good!21:33
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jandersI put a generic "RDMA storage for OpenStack" talk proposal into the Etherpad21:34
jandersit will crystallise into something more concrete closer to the Summit21:34
b1airo👍21:34
jandersWe're playing around with GPFS, I will have a look at BeeGFS as well and we've done some interesting long-range work as well I should probably brief you on at some point - maybe at the Summit :)21:35
b1airoi might be able to throw higher level together too, will see how things develop here...21:35
jandersgreat!21:36
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b1airovery interested in GPFS multi-tenancy. at this point i can't see a low-risk way of supporting sensitive-data research in a typical large shared/multi-user HPC environment, better to create dynamic clusters per data-set/project/group as needed21:37
jandersI was thinking along the lines of what Stig and his team did for BeeGFS21:38
jandersthey allow access to the RDMA filesystem by sharing the private network that storage is connected to with "trusted" tenants21:38
jandersand the deal is - if you have native RDMA storage, you don't have root21:38
janders(or at least this is my understanding)21:38
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jandersHowever, having said that, BeeGFS-OND could offer some interesting ways of tackling this for Slurm running on bare metal OpenStack21:39
jandersand OND also means a brand new approach to resiliency21:40
b1airoindeed - real scratch21:40
janders(while we're quite deep down into the resiliency discussion for a single 1PB scratch and setting performance:capacity:uptime balance, Cambridge guys just don't have this problem, running on-demand.. :)21:41
jandersI'm not so much worried about losing data on scratch, more concerned that with no redundancy one NVMe dies and a good chunk (if not all) of HPC grinds to a halt..21:41
jandersthat's expensive downtime21:41
b1airogood point21:42
jandersnow if each job has own storage, if a couple per-job ephemeral filesystems die, who cares21:42
jandersresubmit jobs21:42
janderssorry!21:42
jandersif it's 15x faster than the current storage the users will happily accept this21:42
jandersbut - having said this - if you have a significant existing investment in GPFS that's less applicable21:42
janderswe're starting fresh in this particular field so can do any filesystem or a combination of a couple different ones21:43
jandershaving the ability to provision high performance storage through OpenStack really helps with trying different things21:43
b1airoyes, that's something i'm missing somewhat at the moment21:44
jandersok - I don't have anything more to add - shall we wrap up?21:46
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martial(back)21:48
b1airoyes, thanks for the chat janders . catch you next time!21:49
martialsounds like we are ready to wrap21:49
b1airoseems so21:49
martialand entry added to the etherpad:)21:49
b1airoi have a cake to bake (public holiday day off here)21:49
jandersHappy Waitangi Day! :)21:49
b1airothanks!21:50
b1airo#endmeeting21:50
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