Thursday, 2019-01-31

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gagehugo#startmeeting security15:04
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 31 15:04:04 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:04
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gagehugo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda15:04
gagehugoagenda ^15:05
gagehugoping fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot15:05
nickthetaithey everyone15:05
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gagehugonickthetait o/15:07
gagehugofungi mentioned that the summit/ptg organizers are curious if we need any space for Denver15:09
nickthetaitthats a good question. What has that been used for at previous events?15:10
nickthetaitdesign/planning type stuff right?15:10
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gagehugotypically yes15:11
gagehugoIt was more used to allow people to bring topics to the Security SIG15:11
gagehugoand present them and ask for help when needed15:11
nickthetaitthen yeah sounds worth it15:13
gagehugoyeah, we should see if we can get a room for one day15:14
gagehugoDublin we had a good full day of stuff, but Denver we only had one person ask something15:15
redroboto/15:15
nickthetaithi15:16
gagehugoredrobot o/15:16
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nickthetaitThere is a discount for any ATCs right? How can I check my status or learn about the process?15:20
gagehugogood question15:21
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gagehugoI think emails went out for previous PTG attendees, not sure exactly about ATC discount15:24
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nickthetaitwho should I ask?15:24
gagehugoI'd either email summitreg@openstack.org or ask in openstack-dev or openstack-tc, someone might know there15:25
gagehugofungi might know more, but he's out for today I think15:25
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nickthetaitok ty!15:27
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gagehugoredrobot: do you have anything?15:29
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gagehugothanks for coming everyone, I gotta run to another meeting15:36
gagehugo#endmeeting15:36
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nickthetaitlater15:39
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eumel8#startmeeting openstack_i18n_meeting16:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 31 16:00:03 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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eumel8#topic Open Discussion16:00
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eumel8Hello, and welcome to I18n meeting here16:00
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eumel8nt16:29
eumel8#endmeeting16:29
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pkovareumel8: meeting?16:31
eumel8I'm here16:31
pkovarokay, let's give this a try16:32
eumel8motiviation16:32
pkovar#startmeeting docteam16:32
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pkovar#topic motivation16:32
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pkovar#chair eumel816:33
openstackCurrent chairs: eumel8 pkovar16:33
pkovarwelcome to the chair committee16:33
eumel8thx for chairing16:33
pkovaranything we wish to talk about today16:34
pkovar?16:34
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eumel8semi official: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/openstack-ops-meetup-berlin-tickets-5503490889416:35
eumel8Ops meetup comes to our town. Still the question if we want to make a session for docs or especially ops guide16:36
eumel8#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-ops-meetup16:36
pkovarwhat is the expected audience there? mostly ops i guess?16:44
eumel8I think so, yes16:45
pkovarwould be great if people from the ops group showed up16:45
eumel8ops and downstream16:45
pkovarafter all. they own the content now16:45
pkovari see the venue is Deutsch Telekom16:46
pkovarnice :)16:46
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eumel8don't know, like an docs/i18n office hour. Would be nice if bus stops from Brno in Berlin16:47
eumel8I have 2 extra rooms for breakout sessions16:47
pkovarc'mon that's not an issue16:47
eumel8i see16:48
pkovari can't promise anything atm though i do enjoy visiting berlin16:48
eumel8try your best16:49
eumel8how was your Brno Summit last weekend?16:49
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pkovarintense16:50
pkovarwe had some docs talks too16:50
pkovarbut missed more openstack people around16:50
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pkovaralso from i18n :)16:50
pkovarnow attending that conf was easy for me, the bus connection was pretty straightforward16:51
pkovareumel8: do we have a deadline for that berlin program scheduling?16:51
eumel8no, I think it's still open16:52
eumel8I notified the Brno thing too late. Additionally I was a little bit of sick the week before16:53
pkovarlet me know if the deadline comes too close16:53
pkovarwould have been sweet to have you here though16:54
pkovarit would be my turn for city tour16:54
eumel8yeah, I've never seen Brno before16:56
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eumel8And the Ops meetup, which I with organize and and host should be no problem with the dead line16:57
pkovarokay, cool16:58
pkovarlet's move back to docs channel16:58
pkovarthanks for attending :)16:58
eumel8time is up, ok16:58
pkovar#endmeeting16:58
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eumel8:)16:58
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mriedem#startmeeting nova21:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 31 21:00:08 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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mriedemhello21:00
takashino/21:00
edleafe\o21:00
dansmitho/21:00
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mriedem#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting21:01
mriedemok let's get started21:01
mriedem#topic Release News21:01
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mriedem#link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule21:01
mriedem#info s-3 feature freeze is March 7 so we have ~5 weeks21:01
mriedem#link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein21:01
mriedem#link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/per-instance-libvirt-sysinfo-serial (Kevin_Zheng) [END 2019-02-04] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619953/21:02
mriedemmore on ^ later21:02
mriedem#link runway #2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/flavor-extra-spec-image-property-validation (jackding) [END 2019-02-07] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/620706/21:02
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mriedem#link runway #3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vrouter-hw-offloads (jangutter) [END 2019-02-11] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572082/21:02
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mriedem^ needs one more core and it's pretty simple21:02
mriedem#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-stein-blueprint-status21:02
mriedemi also went through and updated ^ todya21:02
mriedem*today21:02
mriedemquestions about the release?21:03
mriedem#topic bugs21:03
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mriedemthere are no critical bugs21:03
mriedem#link 57 new untriaged bugs (0 change since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New21:03
mriedem#link 4 untagged untriaged bugs (up 2 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW21:03
mriedem#link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags21:03
mriedem#help need help with bug triage21:03
mriedemgate status21:03
mriedem#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html21:03
mriedem#link mriedem's gate status email from last week: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/002090.html21:04
mriedemreally two big issues for the gate21:04
mriedem#link http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html#1813198 was the biggest issue but test_subnet_details is now being skipped until fixed21:04
* efried waves late21:04
mriedembecause of the skip on ^ the gate is flowing again21:04
mriedembence has a fix up for it in tempest also21:04
mriedem#help subunit parser failures are now our biggest gate issue: http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html#181314721:04
mriedem^ this is our big issue for nova now21:04
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mriedemfrom the ML thread above, it looks like neutron and cinder have had to deal with this also so there are some existing patches we should look at copying in nova21:05
mriedemneed someone to do that work though21:05
mriedem#help The legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-live-migration (non-voting) job is broken: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/181321621:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1813216 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "legacy-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-live-migration failing with "is not on shared storage: Shared storage live-migration requires either shared storage or boot-from-volume with no local disks." since Jan 21" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:05
mriedem^ this clearly regressed recently but I'm not sure due to what, it could have been a change in devstack but we need more eyes21:05
mriedemif it's going to continue to fail and no one looks, i think i'll just push it to the experimental queue, but that would be unfortunate because that's the only job where we do n-1 and back live migration21:06
mriedem#link 3rd party CI status http://ciwatch.mmedvede.net/project?project=nova&time=7+days21:06
mriedemi don't really have any news there except several of the 3rd party CI jobs look spotty, either not running often enough or failing a lot21:06
mriedem#topic reminders21:07
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mriedem#link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking21:07
mriedem#info Chinese New Year is next week.21:07
mriedemso expect some people to be out21:07
mriedem#topic Stable branch status21:07
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mriedem#link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z21:07
mriedemquite a few easy rocky backports that could be approved21:07
mriedem#link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z21:07
mriedemthe queens backlog is getting big so we need to flush that soon21:08
mriedembut there are also some hairy backports in there21:08
mriedem#link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z21:08
mriedemlots of backports for pike21:08
mriedemand a few stragglers for ocata https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata21:08
mriedem#topic subteam highlights21:08
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mriedemScheduler (efried)21:09
efried#link n-sch meeting minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2019/nova_scheduler.2019-01-28-14.01.html21:09
efriedWe brought up and got status on several in-progress efforts, including21:09
efried#link bandwidth https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/bandwidth-resource-provider21:09
efried#link libvirt reshaper https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599208/21:09
efried#link xen reshaper (dead in the water for lack of maintainer) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/520313/21:09
efried#link placement-status https://review.openstack.org/#/c/632600/21:09
efried#link reportclient-to-placement traffic reduction series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615695/21:10
mriedemthe bw provider changes are merging slowly21:10
mriedemgibi is out the rest of this week and might not be around much next week21:10
mriedemi will do some follow ups on some of the already +2ed changes in that series21:10
efriedtraffic reduction series also merging slowly21:10
efriedoh, I guess current bottom is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/615705/21:11
efriedThat's all for n-sch21:11
mriedemagenda says no api office hour this week21:12
mriedemso moving on21:12
mriedem#topic Stuck reviews21:12
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mriedemok this one is mine21:12
mriedemper-instance serial number: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/619953/ is stuck on the ML thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/thread.html#2037  proposing to just always use instance uuid for the serial, don't add  new extra spec / image property / config option choice, and effectively  deprecate the [libvirt]/sysinfo_serial option.21:12
mriedem#link ML thread summary http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-January/002267.html21:12
mriedemi tried to summarize the mess and propose my preference for what we'd do at the end of that,21:13
mriedemmnaser and sean-k-mooney seem to agree,21:13
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mriedemso i guess waiting on jaypipes and stephenfin since they brought up the idea to just always use instance.uuid for the series21:13
mriedem*serial21:13
stephenfinmriedem: I agree with you21:13
mriedemdansmith: if you have thoughts on ^ that would be appreciated21:13
mriedemstephenfin: ok21:13
dansmithum21:13
mriedemif you go back over the old CVE launchpad bug for how sysinfo_serial came about it's kind of a mess21:13
dansmithgotta keep that in the api db I guess21:14
mriedemdansmith: no, it's nothing in the db21:14
mriedemit's just something we shove into the guest xml for libvirt today21:14
dansmithif it's a serial number you do, but.. I'll read21:14
mriedemok21:14
dansmithoh, are you talking disk serial?21:14
mnasersmbios serial21:14
mriedemno21:14
mriedemright21:14
dansmithif you need it to be unique then it has to be in the apidb21:15
mriedemthe instance.uuid is already in the db...21:15
mnaserisnt it a uuid? we can just use the actual instance uuid?21:15
mriedemthat's what is proposed to use21:15
dansmithokay, okay, you said serial number so I assumed an actual serial number21:15
dansmithbut yeah, if it need not be SERIAL21:15
dansmiththen uuid.. :)21:15
mriedemthe bigger question is do we always do that and deprecate the old option to use the host serial21:15
mriedembut, the "summary" email lays it out for you21:16
mriedemok moving on21:16
mriedem#topic open discussion21:16
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mriedemthere is nothing on the agenda21:16
mriedemdoes anyone have anything to bring up here?21:16
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mriedemoh i'll mention,21:17
mriedemi did send an email to gibi and alex_xu asking if alex wanted to take over https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/remove-force-flag-from-live-migrate-and-evacuate since gibi hasn't started it yet21:17
mriedembut then i remembered alex is going to be gone next week for the new year holiday21:17
mriedemanyway, looking for someone to work on that so it doesn't fall out of stein so we'll see what alex says21:17
mriedemif there is nothing else we can close the meeting21:18
mriedemthanks21:18
mriedem#endmeeting21:18
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