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| litao_ | Hi guys, This is my patch https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration | 07:14 |
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| litao_ | I need some reviews | 07:14 |
| litao_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/603542/ | 07:14 |
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| whoami-rajat | litao_: Wrong channel. you need to ask in the #openstack-keystone channel for the same. | 11:30 |
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| nickthetait | no security meeting this week it seems... | 15:02 |
| gagehugo | nickthetait sorry I'm around | 15:02 |
| nickthetait | :) | 15:02 |
| gagehugo | #startmeeting security | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 27 15:02:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gagehugo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'security' | 15:02 |
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| gagehugo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/security-agenda | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | agenda ^ | 15:03 |
| gagehugo | ping eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne redrobot | 15:03 |
| nickthetait | hiya folks | 15:04 |
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| gagehugo | fungi is out, not sure if lhinds is around | 15:04 |
| gagehugo | #topic OSSA | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OSSA (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:05 | |
| gagehugo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1714858 | 15:05 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1714858 in OpenStack Security Advisory "Some APIs don't check the owner policy" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 15:05 |
| gagehugo | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1784871 | 15:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1784871 in OpenStack Security Advisory "ScaleIO (thin) volumes contain previous data (follow-up to 1699573)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:06 |
| redrobot | o/ | 15:06 |
| gagehugo | potential advisories | 15:06 |
| nickthetait | hi | 15:06 |
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| gagehugo | redrobot o/ | 15:07 |
| gagehugo | #topic General Discussion | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Discussion (Meeting topic: security)" | 15:07 | |
| gagehugo | anyone have anything they would like to speak on? | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | other than the OSSAs ^, not much else on the agenda | 15:08 |
| nickthetait | was PTG productive? | 15:08 |
| gagehugo | oh I didn't send out that email | 15:08 |
| * gagehugo facepalms | 15:08 | |
| gagehugo | I will send out a summary | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | but overall yes | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | Had one person present on unified trusts | 15:09 |
| gagehugo | otherwise not much other activity for security | 15:09 |
| nickthetait | okay | 15:10 |
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| gagehugo | anyone have anything? otherwise we can call it an early meeting | 15:14 |
| nickthetait | nope, no emergencies currently :) | 15:14 |
| gagehugo | redrobot: anything? | 15:15 |
| redrobot | nope, can't think of anything off the top of my head... | 15:15 |
| gagehugo | thanks for coming everyone | 15:19 |
| gagehugo | #endmeeting | 15:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:19 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 27 15:19:43 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-09-27-15.02.html | 15:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-09-27-15.02.txt | 15:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/security/2018/security.2018-09-27-15.02.log.html | 15:19 |
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| melwitt | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 27 21:00:09 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| melwitt | hi everyone, welcome to the nova meeting | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 21:00 |
| efried | ō/ | 21:00 |
| melwitt | is it just the 3 of us? this is going to be a quiet meeting | 21:00 |
| efried | well, there goes that | 21:01 |
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| melwitt | there goes the neighborhood | 21:01 |
| melwitt | ok, let's start | 21:01 |
| melwitt | #topic Release News | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| melwitt | #link Stein release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule | 21:01 |
| melwitt | we had the PTG a week and a half ago | 21:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:01 |
| melwitt | milestone 1 is Oct 25 | 21:01 |
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| efried | #link NovaScheduler minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-09-24-14.00.html | 21:02 |
| efried | mriedem gave an update on grenade stuff for placement extraction. It's proceeding apace. | 21:02 |
| efried | We talked about theconsumer generation series | 21:02 |
| efried | shit | 21:02 |
| efried | sorry | 21:02 |
| melwitt | heh, that's ok | 21:02 |
| * efried slinks off to compose in an editor like he ought | 21:02 | |
| melwitt | I was gonna say, be on the lookout reviewing specs and proposing specs at this stage | 21:03 |
| mriedem | spec freeze is milestone 1 or 2? | 21:03 |
| melwitt | help remind people to re-propose specs from last cycle if applicable | 21:03 |
| mriedem | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Stein_Release_Schedule says milestone 2 | 21:03 |
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| melwitt | I think we're planning for milestone 2, I'm starting on the analysis of the RC-time regressions here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-rocky-rc-regression-analysis so far, I haven't done anything other than copy paste the regressions themselves | 21:04 |
| mriedem | wfm since i'm not really reviewing specs atm | 21:04 |
| melwitt | if anyone wants to help, that would be appreciated. the idea was, let's find out if the regression fest was related to the later spec freeze date | 21:04 |
| melwitt | so I'm going to look at when each regression was found, when the change related to it landed, etc. and see if there's anything there to suggest an earlier freeze date would be helpful in reducing regressions | 21:05 |
| melwitt | I'll add notes to the analysis etherpad and ask everyone to take a look and we'll decide as a group whether to move the spec freeze back to milestone 1 | 21:06 |
| melwitt | I'm going to start adding notes after this meeting | 21:06 |
| melwitt | anybody have any other questions on the release schedule? | 21:07 |
| melwitt | #link Stein runway etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-stein | 21:07 |
| melwitt | runways are open for stein and we have two blueprints currently in runways | 21:08 |
| melwitt | #link runway #1: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/use-nested-allocation-candidates (gibi) [END: 2018-10-04] next patch is https://review.openstack.org/583667 | 21:08 |
| melwitt | #link runway #2: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/vmware-live-migration (rgerganov) [END: 2018-10-12] one patch https://review.openstack.org/270116 | 21:08 |
| melwitt | both of these are getting good review attention | 21:08 |
| melwitt | we did releases of stable branches last week/this week | 21:09 |
| melwitt | can't remember exactly when all of them went out | 21:09 |
| melwitt | anything else on release news? | 21:09 |
| melwitt | #topic Bugs (stuck/critical) | 21:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:09 | |
| melwitt | no critical bugs in the link | 21:10 |
| melwitt | #link 65 new untriaged bugs (same since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New | 21:10 |
| melwitt | #link 21 untagged untriaged bugs (down 3 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW | 21:10 |
| melwitt | bug counts have crept up since everyone was busy with the PTG | 21:10 |
| melwitt | thanks to those who have been helping with triage since getting back | 21:10 |
| melwitt | let's continue to get more triage done to get the numbers down | 21:11 |
| melwitt | #link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags | 21:11 |
| melwitt | #help need help with bug triage | 21:11 |
| melwitt | Gate status | 21:11 |
| melwitt | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:11 |
| melwitt | gate status has been especially bad lately | 21:11 |
| melwitt | clarkb had an email to the ML about the situation | 21:11 |
| * melwitt gets link | 21:11 | |
| melwitt | #link zuul job backlog http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134867.html | 21:12 |
| melwitt | see this email for how you can help ^ | 21:12 |
| melwitt | I must admit I'm not clear on whether there are any specific gate bugs we can focus on fixing to help alleviate the strain on the gate | 21:13 |
| mriedem | categorization rate is good now http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/integrated_gate.html | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | problem is dropped node providers | 21:13 |
| efried | mdbooth was working on parallel_evacuate_... | 21:13 |
| efried | that one's been a persistent PITA | 21:13 |
| mriedem | that's a drop in the bucket | 21:13 |
| efried | fine | 21:14 |
| melwitt | ok, so at this point it's the loss of cloud provider mainly | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | that's my understanding, | 21:14 |
| clarkb | mriedem: eh there are still a ton of falky jobs in openstack | 21:14 |
| mriedem | would be nice if clarkb did an update on that thread | 21:14 |
| clarkb | I wouldn't pin this all on lack of clodu resources | 21:14 |
| melwitt | but yes, mdbooth is working on a gate bug we've seen cropping up. and the patch has been receiving review | 21:14 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1686542 | 21:14 |
| clarkb | glance neutron cinder in particular have some really flaky jobs | 21:14 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1708704 | 21:14 |
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| clarkb | functional testing mostly | 21:14 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1783405 | 21:14 |
| mriedem | those are all extremely bad, | 21:14 |
| mriedem | i don't know what to do about the mirrors one | 21:15 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html#1449136 | 21:15 |
| mriedem | 0 fails in 24 hrs / 899 fails in 10 days | 21:15 |
| clarkb | mriedem: the no more mirrors to try one? | 21:15 |
| clarkb | I think thats mostly tripleo talking to their centos prerelease repos | 21:15 |
| clarkb | I'm nto sure there is anything we can do for that other than having them improve the reliability of those services | 21:15 |
| mriedem | if it's tripleo, meh | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i mostly care about integrated gate | 21:15 |
| clarkb | ya they consume some random rpm repos that are for centos pre release etc | 21:16 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html#1449136 is the killer | 21:16 |
| melwitt | ok, I guess those number confuse me because they have quite low fail numbers per 24 hours. how can they be causing the massive backlog? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | 900 failures in 10 days is extreme | 21:16 |
| mriedem | on ^ | 21:16 |
| mriedem | and that's hitting a bunch of the tox unit test jobs | 21:17 |
| melwitt | no, it totally is, I just don't understand the 0 in 24 hours part | 21:17 |
| mriedem | which have doubled recently b/c of python3-magedon | 21:17 |
| melwitt | does that mean it's gone as of today? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | no | 21:17 |
| mriedem | indexing is backed up | 21:17 |
| mriedem | by like 12 hours | 21:17 |
| mriedem | Delay in Elastic Search: Indexing behind by 10 hours | 21:17 |
| melwitt | ok, I see | 21:17 |
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| melwitt | ok, maybe we can do a ML email about that particular bug and see if we can get some help tracking it down | 21:18 |
| melwitt | something specific to focus on | 21:18 |
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| melwitt | ok, moving on for now | 21:18 |
| melwitt | 3rd party CI | 21:18 |
| melwitt | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 21:19 |
| melwitt | I had been seeing a lot of 3rd party CI failures anecdotally this week but things seem to be turning green | 21:19 |
| melwitt | seeing more jobs pass today than yesterday, it seems | 21:20 |
| melwitt | anyone have anything else on bugs or gate status or third party CI before we move on? | 21:20 |
| melwitt | #topic Reminders | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:20 | |
| melwitt | #link high level nova PTG summary: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/135122.html | 21:20 |
| melwitt | summary to the ML posted yesterday ^ | 21:21 |
| melwitt | forum session topic submissions deadline was yesterday as well | 21:21 |
| melwitt | please see https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-forum-stein for a list of topics we've submitted and a link to how you can view all of the forum topic submissions | 21:21 |
| melwitt | #link Stein Subteam Patches n Bugs: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stein-nova-subteam-tracking | 21:22 |
| melwitt | etherpad for subteams to organize patches ^ gmann has added API related patches to the API subteam section | 21:22 |
| melwitt | anyone else have any reminders to call out? | 21:22 |
| melwitt | #topic Stable branch status | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:22 | |
| melwitt | #link stable/rocky: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/rocky,n,z | 21:23 |
| melwitt | #link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z | 21:23 |
| melwitt | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 21:23 |
| melwitt | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 21:23 |
| melwitt | we have lots of stable reviews to do, all around | 21:23 |
| melwitt | and I think we're looking at doing stable releases again after merging these patches we have. lots of bug fixes to be had | 21:23 |
| mriedem | we also need to cut ocata-em | 21:24 |
| mriedem | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134915.html | 21:24 |
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| melwitt | ah, ok. I will look at that | 21:25 |
| melwitt | thanks | 21:25 |
| mriedem | tl;dr if we want to cut a final ocata release before tagging the ocata branch as extended maintenance, we need to flush the queue and then do that, | 21:25 |
| mriedem | which means getting a lot of the rocky/queens/pike stuff merged so we can merge the remaining ocata backports | 21:25 |
| mriedem | b/c once ocata is em, we don't do any more releases | 21:25 |
| mriedem | so, | 21:26 |
| melwitt | ok, ok... I guess that feels the same as EOL. I need to read up on how it's different again | 21:26 |
| mriedem | maybe we need to coordinate a review day next week | 21:26 |
| mriedem | it's not eol b/c we don't delete the branch | 21:26 |
| mriedem | but we don't release it, | 21:26 |
| mriedem | and it can start to bit rot if no one cares about it | 21:26 |
| mriedem | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20180301-stable-branch-eol.html | 21:27 |
| melwitt | ah. so we can keep merging patches to it but we just never release it | 21:27 |
| mriedem | correct | 21:27 |
| melwitt | thank you. that's the crash course (of learning it, not that EM is a crash course) | 21:27 |
| melwitt | alrighty | 21:27 |
| melwitt | anything else for stable branch status before we move to subteams? | 21:28 |
| melwitt | #topic Subteam Highlights | 21:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:28 | |
| melwitt | we didn't have a cells v2 meeting because dansmith and tssurya weren't around | 21:28 |
| mriedem | my cross-cell resize patch is fattening up nicely | 21:29 |
| mriedem | ~1450+ LOC so far | 21:29 |
| mriedem | it should be ready by thanksgiving | 21:29 |
| melwitt | haha, nice | 21:29 |
| melwitt | we had some talk in the channel about a way to return per cell exceptions from a scatter-gather and sean-k-mooney has proposed an idea on how to do that using a Result class that can hold an exception object | 21:29 |
| melwitt | this came out of some of the down cell work tssurya's doing, where it would help if she could differentiate between an InstanceNotFound exception and other exceptions, from a cell scatter-gather | 21:30 |
| melwitt | so, just FYI | 21:30 |
| melwitt | anything else to mention for cells? | 21:31 |
| melwitt | moving on to the scheduler subteam, efried | 21:31 |
| efried | #link NovaScheduler minutes http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-09-24-14.00.html | 21:31 |
| efried | mriedem gave an update on grenade stuff for placement extraction. It's proceeding apace. | 21:31 |
| efried | We talked about the | 21:32 |
| efried | #link consumer generation series starting at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591597 | 21:32 |
| efried | In particular about the 'delete' patch. It isn't buying us a whole lot, but we agreed to do it anyway, with a note acking that it's not buying us a whole lot. That change has since merged, as well as several subsequent ones in the series. | 21:32 |
| efried | FYI we haven't yet gotten past the consumer-gen part of the series and into the use-nrp part. | 21:32 |
| efried | We agreed gibi's any-traits specs could wait, but since they're merged, they'll just be considered low priority and likely to slide to Train. | 21:32 |
| efried | #link Libvirt vgpu reshape https://review.openstack.org/#/c/599208/ | 21:32 |
| efried | was mentioned. Discussed using it as a vehicle to establish a pattern for how reshaper code should be positioned - like in a separate module where we can track which reshapes correspond to which virt drivers and versions, kind of like how we do db migrations. | 21:32 |
| efried | We started discussing how to handle belmoreira's min_unit boggle generically in an NRP world. Goes back to the idea of a generic inventory/provider descriptor file with customizations. Led to some good | 21:33 |
| efried | #link post-meeting talk about how to standardize provider names http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2018-09-24.log.html#t2018-09-24T15:02:05 | 21:33 |
| efried | END | 21:33 |
| melwitt | thanks | 21:33 |
| melwitt | no notes from gibi on notifications subteam | 21:33 |
| mriedem | there wasn't a meeting | 21:33 |
| melwitt | ok, cool | 21:34 |
| melwitt | and gmann left a note for the API subteam "No office hour. Updated the stein-nova-subteam-tracking etherpad for API items." which is the etherpad linked earlier on in Reminders | 21:34 |
| melwitt | does anyone have anything else for subteams? | 21:34 |
| melwitt | #topic Stuck Reviews | 21:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck Reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:34 | |
| melwitt | no items in the agenda. anyone in the room have anything for stuck reviews? | 21:34 |
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| melwitt | ok | 21:35 |
| melwitt | #topic Open discussion | 21:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:35 | |
| melwitt | one item in the agenda from takashin | 21:35 |
| takashin | #link Remove the unused instance-name https://review.openstack.org/#/c/602520/ | 21:35 |
| takashin | It is a fix for '--instnace-name' argument in 'nova list' command. | 21:35 |
| takashin | In nova side, 'instance_name' query parameter is just ignored currently. | 21:35 |
| takashin | Since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/10917/ (merged in August 2012). | 21:36 |
| takashin | So it is useless. | 21:36 |
| takashin | Should we just remove the '--instnace-name' argument in 'nova list' command immediately, or make the argument deprecated then remove it? | 21:36 |
| mriedem | deprecate the optoin | 21:36 |
| mriedem | *option | 21:36 |
| mriedem | that's what we've done in the past, regardless of how useful or not the thing is | 21:36 |
| takashin | okay. will make the argument deprecated then remove it | 21:37 |
| melwitt | at the time that we remove it, we would have to do a major version bump, fwiw | 21:37 |
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| mriedem | yeah, but we probably have other stuff we can drop at the same time | 21:37 |
| melwitt | which is pretty much what johnthetubaguy already said in the review as I read this comment | 21:37 |
| melwitt | yeah | 21:37 |
| mriedem | https://docs.openstack.org/python-novaclient/latest/reference/deprecation-policy.html | 21:37 |
| takashin | Thank you. | 21:38 |
| melwitt | yeah, ok, so deprecate now and then wait a cycle before removing | 21:38 |
| mriedem | ^ that doc is old btw | 21:38 |
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| melwitt | so... no waiting a cycle? | 21:39 |
| mriedem | it's been broken for 6 years, | 21:40 |
| mriedem | we can wait a cycle | 21:40 |
| mriedem | deprecate in S, remove in T | 21:40 |
| melwitt | ok. wasn't sure what you were getting at by saying the doc is old | 21:40 |
| melwitt | I think it's usual to let the deprecation message be there for a cycle before removing | 21:41 |
| melwitt | ok. does anyone have anything else for open discussion before we wrap up? | 21:41 |
| mriedem | like we don't do our own releases of novaclient anymore | 21:41 |
| mriedem | "2. Once the change is approved, have a member of the nova-release team release a new version of python-novaclient." | 21:42 |
| melwitt | oh, I see | 21:42 |
| mriedem | anywho | 21:42 |
| melwitt | thanks | 21:42 |
| melwitt | ok, I guess that's all folks | 21:42 |
| melwitt | thanks everyone | 21:42 |
| melwitt | #endmeeting | 21:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 27 21:42:52 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-09-27-21.00.html | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-09-27-21.00.txt | 21:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2018/nova.2018-09-27-21.00.log.html | 21:42 |
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