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lhindsohh, head stuck in code15:04
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lhindsanyone around from the Security SIG?15:05
lhindsping eeiden fungi gagehugo lhinds nickthetait browne15:05
nickthetaitheyo15:05
lhindshey nickthetait15:05
lhindslets see who else congregates15:05
fungiyup, also tc office hour though15:05
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lhindslooks like we are limited in numbers15:07
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lhindsnickthetait anything key you want to go over, I reviewed your OSSN earlier, that's looking good15:07
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nickthetaitabout two minutes ago I made those changes :)15:08
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lhindscool, so that should be ready to go.15:09
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lhindsI will see if I can get a cinder core to review, but its a +2 from me.15:09
nickthetaitgreat15:09
nickthetaitI plan to start the spectre stuff this week. Should I create an issue for it or just start writing OSSN?15:10
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lhindsJust create a really simple issue for a reference15:10
nickthetaitok15:10
lhindsdo you know about the bandit item (seperate repo for plugins)?15:11
lhindsmaybe you know about that fungi ?15:11
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fungiit came up in the ##python-code-quality channel a couple weeks ago i think15:12
fungibasically bandit has a set of core plugins which are autoloaded on invocation15:12
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fungisome of them are openstack-specific15:12
lhindsok, i will ping sigmavirus see what's happening.15:12
fungino way to actually know whether any openstack teams running barbican against their deliverables are relying on the checks from those plugins or not15:13
redroboto/15:13
fungier, s/barbican/bandit/15:13
lhindsfungi: ack15:13
fungibut they want to remove them from the bandit core set for obvious reasons15:13
fungiso they were just noodling on ideas for how to make those plugins available to openstack projects using bandit15:14
fungiand one possibility was to put them in a separate repo and python package15:14
fungihowever bandit likely needs some additional work on its plugin entrypoint discovery/loader solution to be able to support that sort of split15:15
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lhindsunderstood, I don't have anything to add to this yet, still catching up after some PTO15:16
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lhindsI have seen the github issue over on bandits issue page15:16
lhindsk, so a quick informal meeting today15:16
nickthetait:D15:17
lhindslet's do same time next week, and I will hash start a meeting with hopefully a few more folks around.15:17
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lhindshey redrobot (btw)15:17
lhindsthx *!15:17
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nickthetaitlater15:18
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fungiyeah, if anybody has anything, we can always discuss informally in #openstack-security too15:21
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smcginnislhinds: What do you need in Cinder?15:22
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lhindssmcginnis: just a review of this security note: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570010/15:22
lhindssmcginnis: mainly making sure its not saying anything misleading / incorrect (as it gets emailed out to serveral lists)15:23
smcginnislhinds: Great, I'll take a look shortly.15:23
lhindsthx smcginnis15:23
smcginnisAny time.15:23
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melwitt#startmeeting nova21:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun  7 21:00:04 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is melwitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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melwitthello everybody21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:00
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melwitt#topic Release News21:00
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melwitt#link Rocky release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Rocky_Release_Schedule21:00
efriedō/21:00
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melwitttoday is the r-2 milestone, so we're proposing a release by EOD21:01
melwittis there a particular patch or patches to wait for, for the release tag?21:01
melwittI had been trying to get this one squared away https://review.openstack.org/540258 but am stuck on the functional test, found an issue in the cells fixture, don't know the root cause, etc it's going to take more work21:02
melwittso my plan is to just take the current HEAD of the tree at EOD my time to propose the release with21:02
melwittso if anyone has an important bug patch, let me know otherwise21:03
mriedemi've also been meaning to write a functoinal test related to something in that patch we talked about21:03
mriedembut...time21:03
* melwitt nods21:03
mriedem"TODO: We need a new bug and test for the multi-cell affinity scenario  where two instances are scheduled at the same time in the same affinity  group. We need 2 cells with 1 host each, with exactly enough capacity to  fit just one instance so that placement will fail the first request and  throw it into the other host in the other cell. The late affinity check  in the compute won't fail because it can't see the other memb21:03
mriedemn the  other cell, so it will think it's fine. "21:03
mriedemftr21:03
melwittk. yeah, really similar to what I'm doing except without the parallel request21:04
melwittI mean I'm not doing parallel21:04
melwitt#link Rocky review runways: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-runways-rocky21:04
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melwitt#link runway #1: Certificate Validation - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-validate-certificates (bpoulos) [END DATE: 2018-06-15] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/nova-validate-certificates21:05
melwitt#link runway #2: Neutron new port binding API for live migration: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/neutron-new-port-binding-api (mriedem) [END DATE: 2018-06-20] Starts here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558001/21:05
melwitt#link runway #3: XenAPI: improve the image handler configure:https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xenapi-image-handler-option-improvement (naichuans) [END DATE: 2018-06-20] starts here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/486475/21:05
melwittplease lend your eyeballs to runways blueprint patch reviews21:05
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melwittthanks to all who have been helping out there21:06
melwittanyone have anything else for release news or runways?21:06
mriedempeople need to put stuff in the runways queue21:07
mriedemdon't wait for subteams21:07
melwittyeah, that's a good reminder21:07
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melwittfolks needn't feel pressured to have too much pre-review. if the implementation is done, no longer in WIP state, it's a good idea to join the runways queue21:07
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melwitt#topic Bugs (stuck/critical)21:09
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melwittno critical bugs in the link21:09
melwitt#link 44 new untriaged bugs (up 2 since the last meeting): https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New21:09
melwitt#link 13 untagged untriaged bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=-*&field.status%3Alist=NEW21:09
melwitt#link bug triage how-to: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Tags21:09
melwittI know things have been really busy lately, but hopefully soon we can get some more triage done. how to guide above ^21:10
melwittGate status21:10
melwitt#link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html21:10
melwittgate has seemed okay21:10
melwitt#link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days21:10
mriedemhttp://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html#1775491 was big and new21:10
mriedembut there is a fix in the gate21:10
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/57310721:10
melwitta-ha, cool. I saw that one a few times but didn't realize it was that big21:11
melwittanyone have anything else for bugs, gate status or third party CI?21:11
melwitt#topic Reminders21:12
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melwitt#link Rocky Subteam Patches n Bugs https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/rocky-nova-priorities-tracking21:12
melwitt#info Spec Freeze Day today Thursday June 721:12
melwittthat said, I think we're looking at a couple of exceptions for major issues that are still being spec reviewed,21:12
melwittone is the placement resource providers => nested resource providers migration21:13
mriedem#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/572583/21:13
melwittthat will affect anyone upgrading to rocky21:13
melwittthe other is the handling of a down cell, related to resiliency in a multiple cells deployment21:13
mriedem#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557369/21:14
mriedemi've asked for user and ops feedback on ^21:14
mriedemso far it's just me and gibi on the spec review21:14
mriedembut it's pretty huge in what's being proposed21:14
melwittour friends at CERN have been working with us on this one, they're running queens with multiple cells and have run into issues with resiliency for down or low performing cells/databases21:15
melwittso we really need to do something to deal with those issues21:15
melwittyes, there's been a post to the ML by mriedem on that asking for input21:15
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melwitt#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131280.html21:16
melwittokay, I think that's all I have. anyone else have anything for reminders?21:16
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melwitt#topic Stable branch status21:17
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melwitt#link stable/queens: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/queens,n,z21:17
melwitt#link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z21:17
melwitt#link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z21:17
melwittwe released queens and pike pretty recently and I can't remember if I linked those in a previous meeting21:18
melwitt#link queens 17.0.5 released on 2018-06-04 https://review.openstack.org/57149421:19
melwitt#link pike 16.1.4 released on 2018-06-04 https://review.openstack.org/57152121:19
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melwitt#link ocata 15.1.3 soon to be released https://review.openstack.org/57152221:19
melwittdoes anyone have anything else for stable branch status?21:20
melwitt#topic Subteam Highlights21:20
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melwittwe had a cells v2 meeting this week21:21
melwittmain topics were the handling of a down cell spec mentioned earlier21:21
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melwittand the nova-network removal go-ahead for removing the REST API bits but keeping the core functionality intact until Stein21:21
melwittCERN is in the middle of a nova-network => neutron migration and keeping nova-network functioning underneath is a really helpful safety net for them. so we're deferring removal of the core functionality until Stein21:22
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melwittbut we are in the clear to remove the REST API bits and one change has merged for that and others are proposed21:22
melwittscheduler subteam, jaypipes or efried?21:23
efriedcdent chaired21:23
efriedrats, lemme look up the logs quick...21:23
melwittI was there too but forgot everything21:23
efriedright, so the summary is that nrp-in-alloc-cands is priority (we've merged the bottom four or five since then; progress is being made) but the upgrade business is a close second.21:25
melwittyeah, upgrade/migration issue is very high priority21:25
efried...and blocks blueprints that are changing their tree structures by *moving* existing resource classes, but *not* anyone who's just *adding* new inventories to child providers.21:25
melwittokay, cool21:25
efriedupgrade depends on nrp-in-alloc-cands and consumer generations.21:26
efriedupgrade spec was linked earlier.21:26
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melwittk thanks21:26
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melwittgibi left some notes for notifications,21:26
melwitt"We had a meeting with Matt and talked about the possible need of a major bump of the ServerGroupPayload due the the renaming and retyping of the policies field of the InstanceGroup ovo."21:26
melwitt"We agreed to aim for keeping both the deprecated policies and adding the new policy field with a minor version bump if possible."21:27
melwitt#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/563401/3/doc/notification_samples/common_payloads/ServerGroupPayload.json@1021:27
melwittanything else for subteams?21:27
mriedemthat reminds me,21:27
mriedemi need to talk to dansmith about yikun's changes there at some point21:27
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mriedembut low priority atm21:27
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mriedemthe InstanceGroup.policies field is being renamed21:28
mriedemwhich is weird with objects21:28
melwittdidn't know about that. curious why the need to rename but I'll go look it up later21:28
mriedemhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/563375/11/nova/objects/instance_group.py@16521:28
mriedemit's a different format21:28
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mriedemdetails are in the spec21:28
melwittk, will check that out21:29
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melwitt#topic Stuck Reviews21:29
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melwittnothing in the agenda. anyone in the room have any stuck reviews they need to bring up?21:29
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melwitt#topic Open discussion21:30
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mriedemi've got 2 things21:30
melwittk21:30
mriedemfrom the tc meeting today21:30
mriedem1. mnaser is our guidance counselor now https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Technical_Committee_Tracker#Project_Teams21:30
mriedemso if you are mad at your parents or gf/bf, you can talk to him21:31
melwitt\o/21:31
melwittawe-some21:31
mnaserhi21:31
efriedmnaser: have I told you lately how thick and luscious your beard is?21:31
mriedem2. as part of the goals selection stuff and the "finally do stuff in OSC" goal, i've started an etherpad to list the gaps for compute API microversions in OSC https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/compute-api-microversion-gap-in-osc21:31
mriedemi haven't gotten far,21:31
mriedemand i'll post a more format call for help in the ML later21:31
mriedembut fyi21:32
melwitt#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/compute-api-microversion-gap-in-osc21:32
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melwittgood to know21:32
mriedem*formal21:32
mnaserefried: hah :p thanks, I guess?21:32
* mnaser lets meeting go back to its order21:32
mriedemefried: have you seen gmann?21:32
mriedemno contest21:32
efriedtrue story21:32
melwittlol21:32
efriedBut gmann is not our guidance counselor.21:32
mriedemtrue21:32
mriedemthat's it21:32
mnaser🙄21:33
melwittI guess since I'm thinking about it, there's a post to the ML about increasing the number of volumes to attach to a single instance > 26 and some approaches. lend your thoughts on the thread if you're interested21:33
melwitt#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-June/131289.html21:33
melwittthat's all I have. anyone have anything else for open discussion?21:33
mnaserBut anyways, all jokes aside, we’re trying to be more proactive as TC to check in on project health so feel free to reach out21:33
melwittsuper21:34
melwittokay, if no one has anything else, we can call this a wrap21:34
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melwittthanks everyone21:34
melwitt#endmeeting21:35
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