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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 04:00:34 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| samP | hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Hi all | 04:00 |
| samP | tpatil: Dinesh_Bhor: Hi | 04:01 |
| samP | let's start | 04:01 |
| samP | I have submit a patch to change the meeting time to 0300UTC | 04:01 |
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| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570833/ | 04:02 |
| tpatil | ok, Thanks | 04:02 |
| samP | hopefully from next week, we can start it from 0300 UTC | 04:02 |
| samP | which is 1200 JST | 04:02 |
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| samP | #topic High priority items | 04:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:03 | |
| samP | Introspective Instance Monitoring is in review status | 04:03 |
| samP | spec merged, Masakari side patch is LGTM | 04:03 |
| samP | Owner need to address the review comments | 04:04 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534958/ | 04:04 |
| samP | tpatil: aspiers: thanks for the review | 04:04 |
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| samP | About python-masakariclient release | 04:05 |
| samP | I think we are good to release new version of python-masakariclient | 04:06 |
| samP | for current master and stable/queens | 04:06 |
| tpatil | yes, we need a new version badly | 04:07 |
| samP | I am planning to release new versions on 6/1. Please let me know if you have any concerns | 04:07 |
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| tpatil | ok | 04:07 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, sorry for the delay | 04:07 |
| samP | Any other High priority items? | 04:08 |
| samP | if not let's move to bugs and patches | 04:08 |
| tpatil | I have noticed 2-3 new issues reported in masakari. Will need to confirm these bugs | 04:08 |
| samP | #topic Critical Bugs/Patches | 04:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Bugs/Patches (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:08 | |
| samP | Any bugs or patches need to address? | 04:09 |
| samP | About dashboard, | 04:10 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/masakari-dashboard | 04:10 |
| nsingh | review is under progress for dashboard. | 04:10 |
| tpatil | I'm going to start reviewing those patches soon | 04:10 |
| samP | nsingh: got it, thanks. | 04:11 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks. I will join bit later. | 04:12 |
| samP | #topic Discussion points | 04:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Discussion points (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:14 | |
| samP | (1) Horizon Plugin is mentioned above. codes are in review | 04:14 |
| samP | (2) recovery method customization | 04:15 |
| tpatil | Specs will be uploaded in this week | 04:15 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks. | 04:15 |
| samP | (3) Ansible support for Masakari | 04:15 |
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| tpatil | Niraj was able to run the functional test in his env after fixing minor issues. He will push patches for the community review | 04:16 |
| nsingh | yes | 04:16 |
| samP | great.. | 04:17 |
| tpatil | Next action: Write masakari-monitor role | 04:17 |
| samP | nsingh: Thank you. | 04:17 |
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| samP | Need to update masakari wiki page with those details.. | 04:17 |
| tpatil | under deployer section, correct? | 04:18 |
| tpatil | you mean, this wiki page https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Masakari | 04:18 |
| samP | tpatil: I mean the wiki | 04:18 |
| samP | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Masakari | 04:19 |
| tpatil | ok, I got it | 04:19 |
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| samP | since, now we have extra features such as dashboard, OSA support, and other packaging tool support | 04:19 |
| samP | I will update the wiki soon. | 04:20 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:20 | |
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| samP | I have ask the status of Project mascot | 04:21 |
| samP | I will ask and let you all know. | 04:21 |
| tpatil | ok, thank you | 04:21 |
| samP | Any other items to discuss? | 04:21 |
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| samP | otherwise, we can finish today's meeting... | 04:22 |
| tpatil | Nothing from my end for now | 04:22 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | No | 04:22 |
| nsingh | no | 04:22 |
| samP | OK then | 04:22 |
| samP | Thanks you all for attending to masakari meeting. | 04:23 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | Thank you all | 04:23 |
| tpatil | Thank you All, Bye | 04:23 |
| samP | Please use openstack-dev ML with [masakari] or #openstack-masakari @ freenode IRC for further discussion. | 04:23 |
| samP | Thanks again.. | 04:24 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 04:24:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-05-29-04.00.html | 04:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-05-29-04.00.txt | 04:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-05-29-04.00.log.html | 04:24 |
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| gongysh | hi | 07:59 |
| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 08:00:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 08:00 |
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| dangtrinhnt | hi | 08:00 |
| phuoc_ | o/ | 08:00 |
| Li_Jiale | hi | 08:00 |
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| keiko___ | o/ | 08:01 |
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| gongysh | #topic roll call | 08:01 |
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| phuoc_ | o/ | 08:02 |
| gongysh | keiko___, Li_Jiale phuoc_ dangtrinhnt YanXing_an hi | 08:02 |
| YanXing_an | gongysh, hi | 08:02 |
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| nguyenhai_ | o/ | 08:02 |
| nguyenhai_ | hi everybody | 08:02 |
| gongysh | nguyenhai_, welcome | 08:03 |
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| gongysh | hope all of you who were at summit enjoyed it. | 08:03 |
| gongysh | and the vancouver sea plane too | 08:04 |
| keiko___ | right | 08:04 |
| dangtrinhnt | gongysh, pretty much :) | 08:04 |
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| gongysh | in fact, we have discussed the current status of bp in plate and its details. | 08:05 |
| gongysh | such as port monitoring bp | 08:05 |
| gongysh | #topic blueprint | 08:05 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, do you have any update on the k8s related bp? | 08:06 |
| phuoc_ | not for now, I need to revise this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/548109/ | 08:06 |
| dangtrinhnt | gongysh, do you want me to post here the notes from our last discussion? | 08:06 |
| phuoc_ | and when it is merged, then I will move to the next patch | 08:07 |
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| gongysh | dangtrinhnt, lets first discuss the top1 bps. | 08:07 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, it failed many ci tasks. | 08:07 |
| gongysh | we have to fix these failures. | 08:08 |
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| phuoc_ | these errors happen because of this patch https://github.com/openstack/tosca-parser/commit/7f02df197cdcfee98fec20d468a5ab13eda2fcb8 | 08:08 |
| YanXing_an | failed due to this : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524260/ ? | 08:08 |
| phuoc_ | YanXing_an, that's right | 08:09 |
| phuoc_ | I need to wait heat-translator release new version | 08:09 |
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| gongysh | joxyuki, hi | 08:10 |
| phuoc_ | but Bobh is not online for some days | 08:10 |
| joxyuki | hi team | 08:10 |
| joxyuki | sorry for late | 08:10 |
| phuoc_ | After heat-translator release and this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524260/ is merged | 08:11 |
| phuoc_ | I think everything will be fine | 08:11 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_, Feb 28 11:05 PM, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522935 | 08:12 |
| phuoc_ | but we can comment all test cases about alarm, it will let other patches pass test | 08:12 |
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| gongysh | that patch is merged by heat-translator on Feb 28, why our CI failed now, 3 months later? | 08:13 |
| gongysh | interesting | 08:13 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, https://pypi.org/project/tosca-parser/#history | 08:13 |
| phuoc_ | because they've just released it few weeks ago | 08:14 |
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| YanXing_an | i see the heat-translator version is 1.0.0 | 08:15 |
| YanXing_an | we are now waiting for v1.1.0? | 08:16 |
| phuoc_ | YanXing_an, we need to wait new version, such as 1.0.1 or 1.1.0 | 08:16 |
| dangtrinhnt | YanXing_an, phuoc_'s patch that fixes the issue in heat-translator is must merged recently. So yeah. | 08:16 |
| dangtrinhnt | *just | 08:17 |
| YanXing_an | dangtrinhnt, thanks, okay | 08:18 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, can you make sure the 1.0.0 does not include your patch? | 08:18 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, yes | 08:19 |
| gongysh | ok | 08:19 |
| phuoc_ | because my patch in heat-translator was merged in 2 weeks ago | 08:19 |
| gongysh | which one? | 08:19 |
| YanXing_an | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/523021/ | 08:19 |
| YanXing_an | right? | 08:19 |
| phuoc_ | that's right | 08:20 |
| gongysh | ok | 08:20 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, can you send an email to the core reviewer via mail list to ask for newer release? | 08:20 |
| phuoc_ | gongysh, sure I will do that | 08:20 |
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| gongysh | phuoc_ thanks | 08:21 |
| gongysh | phuoc_, and could you please send me slides of your lighting talks? | 08:21 |
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| gongysh | next bp is about mistral monitoring | 08:22 |
| gongysh | nguyenhai_, hi | 08:22 |
| nguyenhai_ | YanXing_an, did you look at it? | 08:23 |
| nguyenhai_ | I have no update about it | 08:23 |
| nguyenhai_ | However, when I try to work on it, it raise another bug related to Mistral | 08:23 |
| YanXing_an | nguyenhai_, yes, i have look at it | 08:23 |
| nguyenhai_ | I also summit a patch to fix here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568300/ | 08:23 |
| YanXing_an | I have researched on barbican, we can insert one common user to the acl of tenant’s secret, such as the tacker service user. | 08:24 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, can you file a bp or bug to do it? | 08:25 |
| nguyenhai_ | yes, it is a good idea. Because last time about VIM monitoring, we don't need to call back to Tacker server, however, in this case, it should be like that | 08:25 |
| YanXing_an | but it have some problems, it does not work all ways, still need some work | 08:25 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, can you give more about it? | 08:26 |
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| YanXing_an | when we register a vim, save the token to barbican as a secret, and then create a acl for this secret | 08:28 |
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| gongysh | any problem with it? | 08:29 |
| gongysh | if not, we can use this solution. | 08:30 |
| YanXing_an | some times it works normally, some times failed, maybe env problem | 08:31 |
| YanXing_an | I think this solution is ok | 08:31 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, if you have code, I think nguyenhai_ can help | 08:32 |
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| gongysh | YanXing_an, will you file a bp for it? | 08:32 |
| YanXing_an | gongysh, ok, i will file a bp | 08:32 |
| gongysh | maybe we can finish it at hackthon | 08:32 |
| nguyenhai_ | thanks YangXing_an, gongysh | 08:33 |
| YanXing_an | gongysh, good idea:) | 08:33 |
| gongysh | I think next bp is the affinity policy | 08:33 |
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| joxyuki | gongysh, Dinesh submitted a patch for it. | 08:34 |
| gongysh | I have seen some patches are in. | 08:34 |
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| gongysh | great | 08:34 |
| gongysh | those are three bps at top 1. | 08:34 |
| gongysh | #topic open discussion | 08:34 |
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| gongysh | dangtrinhnt, hi | 08:34 |
| gongysh | I have to leave in 5 mins. | 08:35 |
| gongysh | anything to talk? | 08:35 |
| dangtrinhnt | hi | 08:35 |
| dangtrinhnt | nothing much. Just need time to finish the bps | 08:36 |
| gongysh | dangtrinhnt, yes | 08:36 |
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| gongysh | anything else? | 08:36 |
| phuoc_ | I am okie | 08:37 |
| phuoc_ | xD | 08:37 |
| gongysh | nice | 08:37 |
| gongysh | joxyuki, hi | 08:37 |
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| joxyuki | gongysh, hi. I have no topic | 08:37 |
| gongysh | dangtrinhnt, can you set up dynamic sfc with our own zabbix feature? | 08:37 |
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| gongysh | and then finish the doc | 08:38 |
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| gongysh | just as I commented at your doc patch. | 08:39 |
| dangtrinhnt | gongysh, I will do it. | 08:39 |
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| gongysh | #action to register a bp so that a tacker service account can access tenant's vim in barbican | 08:40 |
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| gongysh | #action phuoc_ will send an email to ask heat-translator team to have a new release so that tacker CI tasks can pass. | 08:40 |
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| gongysh | thanks | 08:40 |
| gongysh | #endmeeting | 08:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 08:40:58 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-05-29-08.00.html | 08:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-05-29-08.00.txt | 08:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-05-29-08.00.log.html | 08:41 |
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| qwebirc31137 | hi guys!! how are you ? i've deployed osa queens latest version ! i want to launch auto scaling but i have some issue with gnocchi when i run gnocchi resource-type list . it just give me generic !!! so can not make any instance on gnocchi!!! | 15:20 |
| qwebirc31137 | this is the exact error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/722266/ | 15:20 |
| qwebirc31137 | coud anyone help me, please? it's about weeks . i'm on this error! | 15:22 |
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| njohnston | qwebirc31137: You should ask in #gnocchi | 15:51 |
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| slaweq | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 16:00:55 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is slaweq. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:00 | |
| slaweq | hello | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:00 |
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| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | hi mlavalle | 16:01 |
| slaweq | haleyb: are You around maybe? | 16:02 |
| haleyb | slaweq: yes, sorry, just getting off other call | 16:02 |
| slaweq | haleyb: no problem, hi :) | 16:02 |
| slaweq | ok, so let's start | 16:02 |
| slaweq | #topic Actions from previous meetings | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from previous meetings (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| slaweq | first one is: | 16:03 |
| slaweq | mlavalle will check why trunk tests are failing in dvr multinode scenario | 16:03 |
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| mlavalle | I took a look at it | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | The first one is neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_trunk.TrunkTest.test_subport_connectivity | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | it seems that with this patch we introduced a bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567875 | 16:04 |
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| mlavalle | We are getting a bash syntax error: http://logs.openstack.org/05/570405/3/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-dvr-multinode-scenario/bd70e59/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-05-25_19_15_56_380909 | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | I have examined a couple of intsnaces of the error and they are the same | 16:05 |
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| slaweq | good catch mlavalle | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | it seems to me the " is not needed in dhclient $IFACE.10" | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | so I will propose a patch to fix it | 16:06 |
| haleyb | yes, good catch mlavalle :) | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | I am still investigating what is the problem with neutron_tempest_plugin.scenario.test_trunk.TrunkTest.test_trunk_subport_lifecycle | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | in that case we get ssh time out | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | I will continue working on it | 16:07 |
| slaweq | ok, great that we have some progress on it, thx mlavalle | 16:07 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 16:07 |
| slaweq | next one was: | 16:08 |
| slaweq | slaweq will continue debugging slow rally tests issue | 16:08 |
| slaweq | again I didn't have time to investigate it | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | we had the Summit | 16:08 |
| mlavalle | so understandable | 16:08 |
| slaweq | but as it not happens often I "set low priority" to it in my queue :) | 16:09 |
| slaweq | next one: | 16:09 |
| slaweq | slaweq to debug failing security groups fullstack test: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1767829 | 16:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1767829 in neutron "Fullstack test_securitygroup.TestSecurityGroupsSameNetwork fails often after SG rule delete" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:09 |
| slaweq | I started digging into it more today | 16:09 |
| slaweq | but it also not happens often in gate recently | 16:09 |
| mlavalle | those are the tough ones | 16:10 |
| slaweq | I can reproduce it together with patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470912/ locally - issue looks the same so I hope that maybe this patch is somehow triggering it often | 16:10 |
| slaweq | if not, maybe I will at least find what is wrong with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/470912/ and help with this one :) | 16:10 |
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| slaweq | #action slaweq continue debugging fullstack security groups issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1767829 | 16:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1767829 in neutron "Fullstack test_securitygroup.TestSecurityGroupsSameNetwork fails often after SG rule delete" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:11 |
| haleyb | slaweq: interesting. i tried to reproduce that manually and couldn't, we'll need to look at conntrack entries before/after | 16:11 |
| slaweq | haleyb: I just had failed test with Your patch locally 10 minutes before meeting :) | 16:11 |
| slaweq | I plan to continue work on it tomorrow morning | 16:12 |
| haleyb | ack | 16:12 |
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| slaweq | I also added some additional logs in conntrack module to check what happens there - maybe I will find something tomorrow | 16:12 |
| slaweq | ok, next one is: | 16:12 |
| slaweq | slaweq to check why some scenario tests don't log instance console log | 16:12 |
| slaweq | I added logging console log in case of remote_connectivity check will fail: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568808/ | 16:13 |
| slaweq | it's merged so we should have console log logged in case of such issues now | 16:13 |
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| mlavalle | yeah I saw that one. Thanks! | 16:13 |
| slaweq | and the last one was: | 16:14 |
| slaweq | slaweq to switch neutron-tempest-plugin-designate-scenario to be voting | 16:14 |
| slaweq | Done: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568681/ | 16:14 |
| slaweq | grafana dashboard is also updated | 16:14 |
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| slaweq | so we have one more voting job now :) | 16:14 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 16:14 |
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| slaweq | ok, moving on to next topic | 16:15 |
| slaweq | #topic Grafana | 16:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grafana (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:15 | |
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| slaweq | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:15 |
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| * slaweq has storm here so internet connection might be broken accidentally | 16:16 | |
| * mlavalle only sees blue skies and 95F (~35C) | 16:17 | |
| slaweq | mlavalle: LOL | 16:17 |
| slaweq | Yesterday and today morning there was an issue with cmd2 python module. It now should be fixed by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570822/ | 16:17 |
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| slaweq | because of this issue most of jobs were failing recently | 16:17 |
| mlavalle | cool, thanks for letting us know | 16:17 |
| slaweq | but it should be good soon (I hope) | 16:18 |
| mlavalle | it was a good thing that it was slow due to the holiday in the USA | 16:18 |
| slaweq | yes, exactly | 16:18 |
| slaweq | there wasn't many patches in queue yesterday | 16:18 |
| slaweq | second thing, just FYI: Last week there was also problem with openvswitch kernel module compilation which impacted fullstack and ovsfw scenario jobs - fixed already by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570085/ | 16:19 |
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| slaweq | do You have anything to add/ask about grafana? | 16:20 |
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| mlavalle | no, I think we need to wait for things to normalize | 16:20 |
| slaweq | or we will now go to discuss different jobs? | 16:20 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: I agree | 16:20 |
| slaweq | so going to next topic then | 16:21 |
| slaweq | #topic Fullstack | 16:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fullstack (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:21 | |
| slaweq | when I was preparing today's meeting I found two different problems with fullstack | 16:21 |
| slaweq | one is issue with (probably) conntrack entries which we already discussed | 16:21 |
| slaweq | and second one which happens more often: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774006 | 16:22 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1774006 in neutron "Fullstack security group test fails on _test_using_multiple_security_groups" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:22 |
| slaweq | Failure related (probably) to new test for multiple sg groups, e.g.: | 16:22 |
| slaweq | http://logs.openstack.org/37/558037/6/check/neutron-fullstack/85bb570/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:22 |
| slaweq | I want to take a look on it soon also | 16:22 |
| slaweq | as I have prepared host for debugging fullstack tests now :) | 16:23 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq will check fullstack multiple sg test failure: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1774006 | 16:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1774006 in neutron "Fullstack security group test fails on _test_using_multiple_security_groups" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 16:23 |
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| slaweq | or I can give one of You this pleasure to debug it if You want :) | 16:24 |
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| slaweq | sorry that I didn't ask earlier ;) | 16:24 |
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| haleyb | sorry, is that related to the other SG failure? or maybe it is the failure :( | 16:25 |
| haleyb | different one... | 16:26 |
| slaweq | haleyb: it is different failure than we discused before | 16:26 |
| slaweq | that's why I opened new bug for it also | 16:26 |
| haleyb | 26 minutes ago :) | 16:26 |
| slaweq | yep | 16:26 |
| slaweq | did You already forgot about it? :D | 16:26 |
| haleyb | is it the weekend yet? | 16:27 |
| slaweq | LOL | 16:27 |
| haleyb | that failure looks interesting, as if it's a nested network namespace or something | 16:27 |
| slaweq | yes, but it is not failing 100% times so it's kind of race probably | 16:28 |
| slaweq | but in fact there aren't any nested namespaces IIRC | 16:28 |
| slaweq | there are namespaces which "simulates" vms and namespaces which "simulates" host with lb agent | 16:29 |
| slaweq | in this namespace lb agent applies it's SG rules | 16:29 |
| slaweq | such "hosts" are connected with some ovs bridge between each other | 16:29 |
| slaweq | so in this case LB agents are even better isolated than it is done for ovs agents | 16:30 |
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| haleyb | the ping is generating it though right? that is odd | 16:30 |
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| slaweq | it isn't right | 16:32 |
| slaweq | 100% packets lost | 16:32 |
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| slaweq | where You see this correct ping exactly? | 16:33 |
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| haleyb | i dind't see a correct ping, just assumed it was the command and that was stderr | 16:34 |
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| * haleyb is looking at logs and sees nothing yet besides some fbd RTNETLINK failures | 16:35 | |
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| haleyb | one warning in api log, http://logs.openstack.org/37/558037/6/check/neutron-fullstack/85bb570/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestSecurityGroupsSameNetwork.test_securitygroup_linuxbridge-iptables_/neutron-server--2018-05-17--22-16-48-838393.txt.gz#_2018-05-17_22_16_53_090 | 16:36 |
| haleyb | looks unrelated though | 16:36 |
| slaweq | yep, probably not related | 16:36 |
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| slaweq | nothing very clear in logs at first glance IMO | 16:38 |
| slaweq | I will try to look deeper on this one during this week | 16:38 |
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| slaweq | ok, I think we can move to next topic then | 16:40 |
| slaweq | #topic Scenarios | 16:40 |
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| slaweq | first thing here I wanted to discuss is from jlibosva | 16:40 |
| slaweq | he proposed to make openvswitch fw driver as default in devstack: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568297/ | 16:41 |
| slaweq | and I wanted to ask what You think about it | 16:41 |
| mlavalle | as I said yesterday, I am fine with it | 16:41 |
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| mlavalle | the ovsfw test seems to be stable in the check and gate queues, right? | 16:42 |
| slaweq | from grafana dashboard ovsfw firewall job looks stable - it's not failing more than other jobs | 16:42 |
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| mlavalle | I say let's give it a try | 16:42 |
| slaweq | ok, so please vote on this patch mlavalle :) | 16:43 |
| slaweq | and also if so, I have a question about our existing jobs then | 16:43 |
| mlavalle | done | 16:43 |
| slaweq | if we will change default driver to openvswitch, I think we should change this ovsfw-scenario job into "iptables-scenario" job | 16:43 |
| slaweq | as ovsfw will be done in default one, right? | 16:43 |
| mlavalle | yeah, that's good point | 16:44 |
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| mlavalle | we need to keep the non default one alive | 16:44 |
| slaweq | yep | 16:44 |
| slaweq | so is anyone who wants to do this change or should I assing it to myself? | 16:44 |
| mlavalle | if you want to do it, go ahead | 16:45 |
| slaweq | ok | 16:45 |
| slaweq | #action slaweq to propose scenario job with iptables fw driver | 16:45 |
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| slaweq | ok, speaking about scenario jobs | 16:46 |
| slaweq | we have still some of them on quite high failure rate, non-voting at least :) | 16:46 |
| slaweq | I checked reasons of some of such failures | 16:47 |
| slaweq | so: | 16:47 |
| slaweq | neutron-tempest-multinode-full (non-voting): | 16:47 |
| slaweq | failures in this one doesn't look like related to neutron: | 16:47 |
| slaweq | * Block migration failure: http://logs.openstack.org/85/570085/5/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/09bea41/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:47 |
| slaweq | * Rebuild server: http://logs.openstack.org/32/564132/2/check/neutron-tempest-multinode-full/a5262a2/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:47 |
| slaweq | I didn't found other failures in last few days | 16:47 |
| slaweq | job neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full, example of failure: | 16:48 |
| slaweq | * SSH to instance not available: http://logs.openstack.org/87/564887/6/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/6296f64/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:48 |
| slaweq | this one might be related to neutron | 16:48 |
| mlavalle | I think it is | 16:48 |
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| slaweq | I found such errors in l3 agent logs: http://logs.openstack.org/87/564887/6/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/6296f64/logs/subnode-2/screen-q-l3.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 16:50 |
| slaweq | is it known for You? | 16:50 |
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| mlavalle | no, not familiar with that | 16:51 |
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| slaweq | and in neutron server: http://logs.openstack.org/87/564887/6/check/neutron-tempest-dvr-ha-multinode-full/6296f64/logs/screen-q-svc.txt.gz?level=ERROR | 16:51 |
| slaweq | but I don't even know if this is related to this failed test exactly | 16:52 |
| haleyb | me either, but can guess at the call to update the route and it not existing | 16:52 |
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| slaweq | can You maybe talk about it during L3 meeting then? | 16:55 |
| mlavalle | yes | 16:55 |
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| slaweq | maybe it will be familiar for someone from this team :) | 16:55 |
| mlavalle | we will take a look | 16:55 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 16:55 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: is there a bug filed for it? | 16:55 |
| slaweq | no, I don't know about any | 16:55 |
| mlavalle | ok, I'll file bug | 16:56 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:56 |
| slaweq | ok, going quickly to next topic as we are almost out of time | 16:56 |
| slaweq | #topic Rally | 16:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rally (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:56 | |
| slaweq | I noticed today that few days ago rally job name was changed in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558037/ | 16:57 |
| slaweq | so we don't have stats from rally in grafana since then | 16:57 |
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| slaweq | today I send a patch to fix that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/570949/ | 16:57 |
| slaweq | so should be good when it will be merged | 16:57 |
| slaweq | one moving quickly to last topic :) | 16:58 |
| slaweq | #topic Open discussion | 16:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:58 | |
| slaweq | I was asked today if we are planning to create some tag in neutron_tempest_plugin repo | 16:58 |
| slaweq | and if yes, then when | 16:58 |
| slaweq | mlavalle: do You know? | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | we can do it whenever it is needed | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | how about next week with Rocky-2 | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | ? | 16:59 |
| slaweq | would be great IMO | 16:59 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | ok, will do it next week | 16:59 |
| slaweq | thx mlavalle | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | towards the end | 16:59 |
| slaweq | and one last thing to mention | 16:59 |
| slaweq | According to session in Vancouver I started switching neutron projects to stestr as test runner, patches have common topic. Please review them: | 17:00 |
| slaweq | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+branch:master+topic:switch-to-stestr | 17:00 |
| slaweq | ok, we are out of time | 17:00 |
| slaweq | thx | 17:00 |
| haleyb | mlavalle: sounds good. i can't remember if i was supposed to write up something in our docs to say our cadencde for tags was every release | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | Tnamks! | 17:00 |
| slaweq | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 17:00:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-05-29-16.00.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-05-29-16.00.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-05-29-16.00.log.html | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: I don't remember either. feel free to do it | 17:00 |
| haleyb | ack | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | if you don't have time, ping me and I'll do it | 17:01 |
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| clarkb | hello anyone around for the infra meeting? | 19:00 |
| cmurphy | o/ | 19:00 |
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| ianw | hello | 19:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 19:00 |
| fungi | whee! | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 19:01:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| corvus | howdy! | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| clarkb | There is an agenda, though today I think we may diverge from ti a bit and talk about summit since not all of us were able to be there | 19:01 |
| fungi | thanks! | 19:02 |
| dmsimard | \o | 19:02 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| dmsimard | clarkb: we covered my topic at the last meeting, you were on PTO | 19:02 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: thanks | 19:02 |
| dmsimard | I'll take it out | 19:02 |
| clarkb | I don't have any announcments. Does anyone else have somethign to announce? | 19:02 |
| fungi | it was awesome to get to see so many of you last week | 19:03 |
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| fungi | that's about all i have in the way of announcements ;) | 19:03 |
| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Priority Efforts (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| clarkb | mordred mentioned that he will be working on the config management spec that considers the short and long term tasks necessary to get us modernized | 19:04 |
| clarkb | I don't think this has been done yet though | 19:04 |
| corvus | i'm very eager for that | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | Mostly just noting it here as a reminder | 19:05 |
| clarkb | hopefully we can dig into that soon though. mordred let us know if we can help at all | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General Topics (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:06 | |
| fungi | storyboard.openstack.org and storyboard-dev deployments of storyboard-webclient are still broken while we work out how to safely perform web content replacement. we got closer last week but as a result had to stick storyboard.o.o into the emergency disable list and untar the latest content by hand | 19:06 |
| clarkb | oh sorry | 19:06 |
| clarkb | #undo | 19:06 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic General Topics | 19:06 |
| fungi | np. i type slowly | 19:06 |
| fungi | that was all i was going to say there | 19:06 |
| fungi | i guess i could link your review | 19:07 |
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| clarkb | well that change is broken as you poitned out | 19:07 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/570004 Use archive module to handle webclient source | 19:08 |
| fungi | yeah, assistance there is welcome | 19:08 |
| clarkb | there is probably some puppet pattern we just aren't aware of | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | ianw before I jump into summit things did you want to talk about afs? | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | your emails were great at keeping everyone up to date I think and thank you for addressing that problem | 19:10 |
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| ianw | it should be back to ok now | 19:10 |
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| ianw | it could have been done quicker if i didn't let the kerberos ticket timeout | 19:10 |
| fungi | i followed along in #openstack-infra and it seemed really involved. sorry you got stuck with that | 19:10 |
| corvus | ianw: did you end up doing the unlock thing auristor suggested? | 19:11 |
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| ianw | corvus: no ... it was more involved than that, that was just the first step apparently. it happened late on my friday night so, yeah, was easier to restart | 19:12 |
| ianw | auristor was very helpful in finding the thing to delete to uncorrupt things enough to start again. | 19:12 |
| corvus | ok | 19:12 |
| ianw | i think we would have ended up having to probably delete /vicepa and start the whole thing again without expert overview | 19:12 |
| ianw | if we'd like to keep talking about it, pypi is getting ever closer to 2tb which is going to start causing us problems. but we can also ignore it for a little more too, i upped the quota to 1.9tb | 19:14 |
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| clarkb | re pypi specifically I think we want to rescan the logs for projects that update frequently and have big packages, update our blacklist then regenerate pypi mirror from scratch | 19:14 |
| clarkb | I didn't want to regenerate from scratch until our blacklist of packages was a bit more robust | 19:15 |
| clarkb | but I think we save almost a terabyte by regenerating from the current list | 19:15 |
| ianw | oh, and an interesting link on debugging volume failures for the future | 19:16 |
| corvus | can we just rm the packages from under it? | 19:16 |
| ianw | #link https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-devel/2018-May/020499.html | 19:16 |
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| clarkb | corvus: that is another option though we would have to update the indexes too | 19:16 |
| clarkb | or we can let them 404 I guess | 19:16 |
| corvus | oh, hrm. maybe better to regen :) | 19:16 |
| ianw | they'd still 404 if someone requested it anyway after blacklisting? | 19:17 |
| ianw | i.e. it wouldn't be in the mirror? | 19:17 |
| clarkb | ianw: yes but the mirror wouldn't claim to have them at all | 19:17 |
| clarkb | probably somewhat confusing to users of pip in either case | 19:18 |
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| ianw | clarkb: do you have a usage script to find things to target? if not, i can take an action item to get something together | 19:18 |
| fungi | regenerating from scratch is cleaner for sure, though perhaps the end result isn't much different functionally | 19:19 |
| clarkb | ianw: I don't I mostly just grepped the log and piped through sort for frequency counts | 19:19 |
| clarkb | then from there noticed anything machine learning ended up having huge package sizes due to cuda | 19:19 |
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| fungi | different from scripting up something to delete the existing files for blacklisted projects, i mean | 19:19 |
| ianw | ok, i can see about something we can run maybe periodically to give us a view of what's using space | 19:21 |
| clarkb | sounds good | 19:21 |
| clarkb | Anything else before we talk about the summit? | 19:21 |
| anteaya | I'm grateful if anyone feels like reviewing the limesurvey patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557979/ | 19:22 |
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| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557979/ limesurvey change | 19:22 |
| anteaya | it is almost ready to be a thing | 19:22 |
| anteaya | thanks clarkb | 19:23 |
| clarkb | #topic Vancouver Summit v2 | 19:23 |
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| anteaya | the weather was great | 19:23 |
| anteaya | again | 19:23 |
| clarkb | This summit was particularly busy for me with a lot of stuff happening. That said I found it to be very productive which was nice. I'm still sorting out the writing of a summary which I will send to the infra list but figured we could talk about things people had questions about here as well | 19:24 |
| clarkb | One major thing that affects this group in particular is Zuul got its day in the spotlight | 19:24 |
| clarkb | don't be surprised if you see new users or people curious about it asking questions | 19:24 |
| clarkb | Also there are stickers, corvus has a collection of them | 19:24 |
| fungi | heh, yeah i did _too_ good of a job booking up every last minute of my schedule for last week. at one point i had to sprint from a forum discussion to the lightning talk stage and then sprint back again as soon as the talk concluded | 19:25 |
| fungi | clarkb can verify i was out of breath | 19:25 |
| fungi | thankfully diablo_rojo_phon was there to pick up my slack | 19:25 |
| clarkb | Other areas of interest include openstack now has a concrete proposal to deprecate python2, expect email to the dev list from dhellmann to finalize that plan | 19:25 |
| clarkb | OpenDev resulted in some great interaction between communities and organizations around doing CI/CD | 19:26 |
| clarkb | I heard the zuul workshop in particular was really well done. Thank you to pabelanger for that (I think he had help as well but unsure who was helping) | 19:26 |
| corvus | mnaser helped pabelanger | 19:26 |
| fungi | was it well-attended? sorry i wasn't in that one (forget what conflict i had during that slot) | 19:27 |
| corvus | sold out | 19:27 |
| clarkb | A few of us were able to meet with Kata and make a plan to run some of their jobs with zuul with the hope for a moving to zuul long term | 19:27 |
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| clarkb | The first contact group has also been working to better document what companies need to allow their employees to do in order to work upstream successfully. Things like send email to the mailing list | 19:28 |
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| clarkb | On the subject of mailing lists there seems to be a strong push to consolidating our mailing lists so don't be surprised if openstack drops down to a much smaller number of active mailing lists in the near future | 19:29 |
| clarkb | But I don't want to summarize everything in this meeting. Will instead ttry to write an email that covers the broad topics. Instead are there specific topics people want to go over whether you were at the summit or not? | 19:29 |
| fungi | yeah, i'll have something out to the ml soon as a summary for that first contact sig session | 19:30 |
| corvus | https://review.openstack.org/570087 is an outcome of an opendev session -- hopefully we'll hook up our zuul to opendaylight's gerrit so we can do cross-testing | 19:31 |
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| corvus | i set up accounts and updated our infra-root password store; waiting on odl permission changes now | 19:31 |
| fungi | that'll be awesome | 19:31 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/570087 enable cross testing of changes in OpenDaylight's gerrit with OpenStack's gerrit via Zuul | 19:32 |
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| fungi | one thing we informally made a little progress on at the forum, we're trying to work out a process for the discussions we need to have around renaming the infra team effort. like most renaming discussions it's complicated by legal review and finding ways to avoid being put at a disadvantage during domain name acquisition | 19:34 |
| clarkb | Overall there seemed to be a willingness to adapt the way we and others do things to be more flexible as our users' needs change. The mailing list updates, talking to other gerrits, possible renaming of infra to be a bit more neutral to non openstackers, and so on. I don't expect everything to change all at once and this should happen with community input. | 19:36 |
| clarkb | If these types of changes concern you or you otherwise have input definitely make sure your voice is heard. I'm happy to listen to feedback if people are comfortable putting it out in public as well | 19:36 |
| corvus | i'm happy with the approach of sharing names privately when necessary, and otherwise discussing the process in public | 19:37 |
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| clarkb | on that specific topic, I was asked to send email to the foundation that can be used to engage the legal team re the specific name fungi and I had in mind. The idea being if there aren't legal concerns we can circulate it among the team and see if we have consensus and move forward from there. The concern being the cost involved with the name and that potentially changing. | 19:39 |
| fungi | yeah, i hate the cloak-and-dagger bs around naming things | 19:40 |
| corvus | it's too bad the name-everything-a-uuid movement never caught on | 19:41 |
| clarkb | indeed | 19:41 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 19:41 |
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| clarkb | Another major item worth mentioning was that opendev attendees seemed comfortable using openci.io to continue the collaborative discussion around ci going forward | 19:44 |
| clarkb | feel free to join the mailing list there and otherwise get involved | 19:44 |
| anteaya | awesome | 19:44 |
| fungi | yes, i thought those sessions were great for sharing ideas across communities | 19:44 |
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| fungi | i got several thanks from random people for the ci/cd security fundamentals discussion (even though i basically just got voluntold to moderate it due to lack of actual volunteers) | 19:45 |
| fungi | proof that just getting people in a room labelled with a broad topic and asking them to riff on that is helpful | 19:46 |
| anteaya | thanks for the ci/cd security fundamentals discussion fungi | 19:46 |
| fungi | heh, you're welcome! | 19:46 |
| clarkb | anything else before I open the floor to open discussion? | 19:47 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:48 |
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| anteaya | and I'll agree with fungi's statement earlier, it was very nice to see so many of you again | 19:49 |
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| clarkb | I'll admit it is nice to not be dealing with jet lag :) | 19:50 |
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| anteaya | clarkb, :) | 19:51 |
| fungi | i'm dreading watching the video of the tech elections lightning talk and seeing that i was probably doing an even worse delivery than i thought at the time | 19:51 |
| clarkb | Doesn't sound like we have much else to cover today. I'll end the meeting in a minute or two if nothing else comes up. | 19:51 |
| anteaya | I just got home last night, drove around the island for a bit, so I'm lagging today | 19:51 |
| anteaya | fungi, I'm sure you were fine | 19:52 |
| anteaya | your elecution is always very good | 19:52 |
| anteaya | clarkb, I have nothing else, just chatting | 19:52 |
| corvus | fungi's electrifying election elocution | 19:53 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 19:53 |
| clarkb | yesterday was a US holiday and we just had the summit so I expect this to be a very quiet week | 19:53 |
| fungi | heh | 19:53 |
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| fungi | yeah, i expect i'll be lagging all week. travel takes a lot out of me, but a week solid of being in sessions even moreso | 19:53 |
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| clarkb | Thanks everyone | 19:54 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 19:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 19:54:09 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-05-29-19.01.html | 19:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-05-29-19.01.txt | 19:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-05-29-19.01.log.html | 19:54 |
| anteaya | thanks clarkb | 19:54 |
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| oneswig | ... ready? | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| martial | sure | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue May 29 21:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| trandles | hi all | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:00 |
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| oneswig | Greetings! | 21:00 |
| jmlowe | Hello | 21:00 |
| martial | hello everybody | 21:00 |
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| oneswig | #link Agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_May_29th_2018 | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | Hi martial, are you travelling again this week? | 21:01 |
| martial | nah it is next week | 21:01 |
| oneswig | ah OK, enjoy the break :-) | 21:01 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: you there b1airo? | 21:02 |
| b1airo | Howdy | 21:02 |
| oneswig | hey b1airo | 21:02 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 21:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:02 |
| oneswig | ok lets get this show on the road | 21:02 |
| oneswig | #topic Vancouver roundup | 21:02 |
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| b1airo | Yep, just making the porridge... :-) | 21:02 |
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| oneswig | Firstly, thanks for everyone who joined in a good SIG session, particularly the people who spoke in the BoF | 21:03 |
| martial | and your John who won :) | 21:03 |
| martial | (you know "your John") | 21:03 |
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| oneswig | Yes indeed - bravo John Garbutt, excellently spoken | 21:04 |
| oneswig | #link session etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-sig-vancouver2018-meeting | 21:04 |
| b1airo | +1 | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Lots of things covered. | 21:04 |
| oneswig | A good deal of interest in new activity areas - controlled data management, more federation, security, object storage enhancements, more performance | 21:05 |
| martial | although your shed is going to be the talk of the summit :) | 21:05 |
| oneswig | martial: if I could tell you it was my shed, I would proudly do so... | 21:06 |
| b1airo | Maybe if we're defining a Scientific OpenStack Constellation it could have a derelict shed as its mascot! | 21:06 |
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| b1airo | Seems pretty quiet around here this morning | 21:07 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: seconded (although with minor reservations...) | 21:08 |
| b1airo | Heh | 21:08 |
| b1airo | Any lurkers? | 21:08 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | *tumbleweed* | 21:08 |
| oneswig | We should try to gather some groups around specific efforts, if we can. | 21:09 |
| b1airo | oneswig: I watched a Ceph HCI NFV session in transit and heard you asking a question afterwards, so maybe you'll know the answer to my question... | 21:09 |
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| oneswig | I asked a question? Was this the Intel one? | 21:10 |
| b1airo | They mentioned putting CPU quota on the OSD daemons, any idea how they did it? | 21:10 |
| oneswig | Hi StefanPaetowJisc - saw you lurking :-) | 21:10 |
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| StefanPaetowJisc | Howdy | 21:10 |
| b1airo | o/ StefanPaetowJisc | 21:10 |
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| jmlowe | only mechanism that comes to mind is cgroups | 21:11 |
| oneswig | Oh that talk - I think it must have been cgroups, would that make sense? | 21:11 |
| b1airo | I assume cgroups, but not clear what type of cgroup control | 21:11 |
| oneswig | snap | 21:11 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | Apologies... I've been otherwise engaged. | 21:11 |
| b1airo | Yeah so I assume when they say "quota" it would have to be CPU share ? | 21:12 |
| oneswig | StefanPaetowJisc: I have you in my sights for an update on moonshot one week - if there's news to report? | 21:12 |
| b1airo | But if that's what they used then I think their experimental setup was flawed as they didn't generate load to force the cpu share into effect | 21:12 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | No news at the moment... Unless having a new logo counts. *rolls eyes* | 21:13 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: that was my understanding. Going from memory they found a sweet spot around 30-50% of a cpu... | 21:13 |
| oneswig | StefanPaetowJisc: This is IRC, man... | 21:13 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | The macOS client drags on. And on. And on... | 21:13 |
| * StefanPaetowJisc repeatedly bashes his head on a desk | 21:14 | |
| * martial pat StefanPaetowJisc on the back ... there there it gets better | 21:15 | |
| b1airo | Yeah I saw their numbers, but the fact that 50% made almost no difference makes me think cgroups weren't doing anything | 21:15 |
| oneswig | b1airo: I don't recall what they were doing for load... CPU share only applies when a resource is under contention? That would make some sense | 21:15 |
| b1airo | That's right, so how did they ensure contention to make their percentage numbers meaningful | 21:16 |
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| oneswig | Wasn't I sitting next to you in that talk? | 21:17 |
| martial | stepping out for a few minutes | 21:17 |
| b1airo | Haha, nah that was their related one | 21:18 |
| b1airo | Seems they had 2 talks and a lightning talk on basically the same stuff | 21:18 |
| oneswig | Ah ok. | 21:20 |
| b1airo | I'll email them | 21:20 |
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| oneswig | Anyway, I'd like to bring together any fellow travellers on controlled datasets and federation issues - these are pertinent things we are facing in the day job. I'm hoping to gather some notes on the controlled data story over the coming weeks to find common areas and best practice. | 21:21 |
| b1airo | Sounds great | 21:21 |
| jmlowe | I have the feeling I'm going to be in that boat sometime in the next year | 21:22 |
| trandles | controlled data is my life | 21:22 |
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| b1airo | Any thoughts on how the to break the areas down? | 21:22 |
| trandles | well, not literally | 21:22 |
| b1airo | o/ trandles | 21:22 |
| trandles | hello b1airo | 21:23 |
| trandles | I hear rumors involving you | 21:23 |
| oneswig | b1airo: was it this talk? https://www.openstack.org/videos/vancouver-2018/implications-of-ceph-client-performance-for-hyper-converged-telco-nfv | 21:23 |
| b1airo | Oh, the gossip mill is grinding huh? | 21:25 |
| oneswig | trandles: did you see that Julia had put up a POC implementation of boot-to-ramdisk? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/568940/ | 21:25 |
| trandles | I didn't see that, thanks for the link...I'll look at it now | 21:26 |
| trandles | b1airo: nasty gossip about Hobbiton or something | 21:26 |
| b1airo | This talk oneswig : https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/21452/high-performance-ceph-for-hyper-converged-telco-nfv-infrastructure | 21:26 |
| b1airo | Lol | 21:26 |
| b1airo | It's true trandles, I'm moving back to defend the one ring | 21:27 |
| StefanPaetowJisc | Back to Aotearoa? | 21:29 |
| trandles | b1airo: congrats | 21:29 |
| oneswig | There's only one cloud there, and its a long white one... | 21:29 |
| b1airo | Thanks! | 21:30 |
| b1airo | Well there are at least three OpenStack clouds there, but I fear NeSI's is probably on Kilo | 21:30 |
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| StefanPaetowJisc | Congrats! | 21:34 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: you're the #1 guy in the Southern Hemisphere for extremely problematic OpenStack upgrades... :-) | 21:35 |
| b1airo | What a mantle! | 21:35 |
| b1airo | oneswig: I think we should start an etherpad to try and figure out the different angles for sensitive data handling | 21:37 |
| oneswig | On the subject of summit videos, can anyone recommend particular talks? Would be good to gather some links | 21:37 |
| trandles | +1 - especially given all the different options for data storage | 21:37 |
| b1airo | There's a lot of ways to come at it, some is OpenStack related, but much of it isn't or would only be peripherally related if auth integration was wanted/needed | 21:38 |
| oneswig | b1airo: makes sense to me. | 21:38 |
| oneswig | I'll make one now | 21:38 |
| jmlowe | barbican dev alee was especially interested in real world performance measurements | 21:39 |
| oneswig | #link Controlled data research https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Scientific-SIG-Controlled-Data-Research | 21:40 |
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| b1airo | Thanks oneswig, I'll look once I'm on the bus | 21:41 |
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| oneswig | I had a question about DK Panda's talk, including mention of SR-IOV and live migration. Were there any signs of that technology emerging? | 21:45 |
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| oneswig | #link SR-IOV and live migration https://www.openstack.org/videos/vancouver-2018/building-efficient-hpc-clouds-with-mvapich2-and-openstack-over-sr-iov-enabled-heterogeneous-clusters | 21:46 |
| jmlowe | He also mentioned it at the HPC advisory council last year | 21:48 |
| b1airo | I think it's been discussed upstream in qemu before | 21:48 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: I recall, but this time it seemed to be working...? | 21:48 |
| jmlowe | lol | 21:48 |
| b1airo | Seems like a bit of a pipe dream | 21:49 |
| trandles | that would a big break through if true | 21:49 |
| b1airo | Does the solution he was talking about include replacing the VF with an emulated device during the migration? | 21:49 |
| jmlowe | I can't imagine how that would work, there is some way to do that if you avoid layer 2 and user ethernet, if I remember correctly but doing that with ib seems impossible | 21:51 |
| oneswig | b1airo: it's been a long time coming but seemed more real this time. I don't think the solution details were covered, might need to watch it again. | 21:51 |
| b1airo | Yeah it would never be transparent jmlowe , the app layer would have to handle broken QPs etc | 21:51 |
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| oneswig | Another talk that requires second viewing could be Sylvain's presentation on virtual GPUs: https://www.openstack.org/videos/vancouver-2018/call-it-real-virtual-gpus-in-nova | 21:52 |
| b1airo | Much like RoCE/IB bonding failover from the app perspective I imagine, except twice in quick succession | 21:52 |
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| oneswig | b1airo: you're thinking MVAPICH MPI plays a part? Perhaps it would need to. | 21:54 |
| jmlowe | you would have to do something like take the mac address with you then notify the fabric that the topology has changed | 21:55 |
| oneswig | I think this talk from Jacob and the Mellanox team stood out for tech content: https://www.openstack.org/videos/vancouver-2018/ironing-the-clouds-a-truly-performant-bare-metal-openstack-1 | 21:56 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: topology change in ethernet = gratuitous arp from the new position? | 21:57 |
| oneswig | We are close to time... any final picks? | 21:58 |
| b1airo | Thanks for reminding about the Mellanox one, I hadn't realised that was with Jacob. Will watch it now :-) | 21:59 |
| jmlowe | something like that, part of the low latency of ib comes from not having to discover where to send a packet after it's been sent | 21:59 |
| jmlowe | afaik | 22:00 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: Ah, IB, so true. | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Time's up, thanks all | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue May 29 22:01:03 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-05-29-21.00.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-05-29-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-05-29-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
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