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| tpatil | /msg tpatil identify | 03:57 |
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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 6 04:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
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| samP | Hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| sagara | Hi | 04:00 |
| samP | Glad you all came back safely | 04:01 |
| samP | from PTG | 04:01 |
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| samP | #topic High priority items | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "High priority items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| samP | About Release | 04:01 |
| samP | all 3 projects has been released | 04:02 |
| sagara | Great | 04:02 |
| samP | currently, python masakari client does not have stable/queens branch | 04:02 |
| tpatil | Once the masakari-monitors patch is merged, you will need to release it's new version, correct? | 04:03 |
| samP | The reason is in comment of following patch | 04:03 |
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| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547502/ | 04:03 |
| samP | tpatil: correct | 04:04 |
| tpatil | #link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546492/10 | 04:04 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, Is there any problem in cutting stable/queens branch for python-masakariclient? | 04:04 |
| samP | tpatil: waited for release. Currently no blockers. I will create it today | 04:06 |
| tpatil | samP: OK | 04:06 |
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| tpatil | So only masakari-monitors patch is pending for review against Queens release | 04:08 |
| samP | And fix masakari command for python-masakariclient | 04:09 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: ^^ correct? | 04:09 |
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| tpatil | samP: yes, I remember, that create_connection method issue | 04:10 |
| samP | tpatil: yes. | 04:10 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: Correct. | 04:10 |
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| rkmrHonjo | This patch fixes masakari command. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/547879/ | 04:11 |
| samP | I think we need to fix those 2 problems and release a new version for both pyclient and monitors | 04:11 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: correct | 04:11 |
| samP | Please do not merge this patch before create stable/queens for python-masakariclient | 04:13 |
| tpatil | samP: point noted | 04:13 |
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| samP | I will submit required patches for create stable/queens today. | 04:14 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: I got it. | 04:14 |
| samP | For openstack/masakari and masakari-monitors, now we can work master for R | 04:15 |
| samP | For openstack/python-masakariclient, please wait for stable/queens branch | 04:16 |
| samP | #topic Rocky work items | 04:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rocky work items (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:16 | |
| samP | I would like to take some time to discuss about Rocky work items. | 04:17 |
| samP | First, I will create a etherpad for Rocky, and fill it with existing items | 04:18 |
| samP | Please propose any new items to etherpad before next IRC meeting on 11/3/2018 | 04:19 |
| tpatil | samP: Sure | 04:19 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: OK. | 04:21 |
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| tpatil | In PTG, I met Greg, Abhishek and Adam along with NTT folks | 04:21 |
| samP | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/masakari-rocky-work-items | 04:21 |
| samP | ^^ here is the etherpad | 04:21 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:22 |
| tpatil | Greg is looking forward to get his team's patch merged in Rocky about Intrusive monitoring | 04:22 |
| samP | tpatil: any update from them. Really sorry that I wan not able to be there | 04:22 |
| tpatil | samP: Not yet | 04:22 |
| samP | tpatil: got it. | 04:22 |
| tpatil | Also, if someone is available we can start work on nova-host-alerter | 04:23 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: Any progress on your side of this work? | 04:24 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: nova-host-alerter | 04:24 |
| tpatil | I think you are familiar with this openstack resource agents and this new agent will be part of it | 04:24 |
| samP | tpatil: yes. if I remember correctly, rkmrHonjo was stared to work on this. | 04:25 |
| tpatil | #link : https://aspiers.github.io/openstack-day-israel-2017-compute-ha/#/no-fence_evacuate | 04:26 |
| rkmrHonjo | Please wait.. | 04:26 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo's team was creating a PoC for this. OCF-RA and masakari plugin | 04:27 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Excuse me, does nova-host-alerter means monitor implemented as RA? | 04:28 |
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| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: That's correct | 04:28 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: monitor implement as RA | 04:28 |
| rkmrHonjo | Ah, OK. I'm preparing to submit PoC. Sorry for late. I'll submit it in next week. | 04:29 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks. | 04:30 |
| samP | I will put this item to Rocky work items. | 04:30 |
| samP | This is bit heavy task. rkmrHonjo: might better to split the tasks. | 04:31 |
| samP | Let's discuss this on Rocky work item discussion. | 04:31 |
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| rkmrHonjo | ok. | 04:32 |
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| samP | For Rocky work item discussion, which method you prefer, IRC or VoIP? | 04:32 |
| samP | VoIP also have chat, VoIP=Zoom | 04:32 |
| tpatil | samP: Once nova-host-alerter is available, what is the plan for masakari-monitor? | 04:33 |
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| samP | tpatil: we have 2 options, | 04:34 |
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| samP | (1) retire hostmonitor part from masakari-monitors in favour of nova-host-alerter | 04:34 |
| samP | (2) keep both, since current masakari-monitors doing it different manner | 04:35 |
| samP | In future, process monitor could also implement as same architecture with nova-host-alerter | 04:36 |
| samP | However, not the instance monitor. | 04:36 |
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| tpatil | samP: Ok, process monitor is doing nothing as of now. Do we really want it? | 04:37 |
| samP | since we have new requirements coming in for instance monitor, we do have to maintain it | 04:38 |
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| tpatil | samP: Ok I got it. | 04:38 |
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| samP | tpatil: about process monitor, agree with current situation. However, it is still valid as a reference driver for process monitoring | 04:39 |
| samP | In VMHA | 04:39 |
| samP | In VMHA usecase, process monitoring is one of the requirement, along with host and instance monitoring. | 04:40 |
| tpatil | samP: Let's come up with some use case and take some recovery action against process notifcations other than simply logging it | 04:41 |
| samP | Our, current process monitor do not do much at the time. But in future, if we can cutormize the recovery action, then we might able to use it in much efficient way | 04:41 |
| samP | tpatil: totally agree. | 04:42 |
| tpatil | samP: Recovery customization is next big item for Rocky, we have completed the POC. We can talk about it in next meeting | 04:42 |
| samP | tpatil: great work. thanks | 04:43 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: great. | 04:43 |
| samP | tpatil: let's look into details in next meeting | 04:43 |
| tpatil | samP: Sure | 04:44 |
| rkmrHonjo | Sorry, I leave this meeting at 13:55. | 04:44 |
| rkmrHonjo | 13:55 JST | 04:44 |
| samP | About, "Rocky work items" I will send a mail for details about the discussion. | 04:45 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: NP | 04:45 |
| samP | #topic Masakari Project mascot | 04:46 |
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| samP | Any new ideas? | 04:46 |
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| samP | Please propose if you have any ideas. I would like to decide some thing in next meeting..:) | 04:47 |
| rkmrHonjo | OK. When is the time limit_ | 04:48 |
| rkmrHonjo | s/_/?\ | 04:48 |
| sagara | samP: OK, I'm also still considering | 04:48 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: before 3/11 | 04:48 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: next meeting | 04:48 |
| rkmrHonjo | oh. I got it. | 04:49 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:49 |
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| rkmrHonjo | py35 of masakari was failed by date time format error. #link | 04:50 |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545545/ | 04:50 |
| samP | Skipped the Bug/Patch part, cause we have already discussed above about important issues. | 04:50 |
| samP | Please share, other than that.. | 04:50 |
| rkmrHonjo | Oh, sorry. | 04:51 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: sorry, not about one posted | 04:51 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: your issue is valid | 04:52 |
| rkmrHonjo | samP: ok. Does anyone analyze this py35 error? If "no", I analyze it. | 04:53 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Please report it as a bug and someone will take up this issue | 04:53 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: ok. | 04:53 |
| samP | tpatil: rkmrHonjo: thanks/ | 04:54 |
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| samP | seems like datetime format error, | 04:55 |
| samP | Anyway, will follow the Bug report. | 04:55 |
| samP | Last 5 mins, any other issues to discuss? | 04:56 |
| tpatil | maybe some Oslo_utils related changes is causing this problem | 04:56 |
| samP | BTW, NTT system-fault-ci masakari-integration-ci is down for maintenance | 04:57 |
| samP | I will be at OpenStack Ops meetup on 3/7-8 | 04:57 |
| samP | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Operations/Meetups/TYO-ops-meetup | 04:58 |
| samP | almost time.. | 04:58 |
| samP | Thank you all... | 04:58 |
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| samP | Please use #openstack-masakari @freenode IRC or openstack-dev ML with [masakari] for further discussion | 04:59 |
| sagara | Thank you, bye | 04:59 |
| samP | Thanks you again... bye | 04:59 |
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| samP | #endmeeting | 04:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 6 04:59:39 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-03-06-04.00.html | 04:59 |
| tpatil | Bye | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-03-06-04.00.txt | 04:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-03-06-04.00.log.html | 04:59 |
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| chenying | #startmeeting karbor | 09:42 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 6 09:42:44 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is chenying. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:42 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: karbor)" | 09:42 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'karbor' | 09:42 |
| chenying | hi jiaopengju | 09:42 |
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| jiaopengju | hi chenying | 09:43 |
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| chenying | Now the queen of karbor has been released. Now we can start the rocky version of the karbor project. | 09:44 |
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| chenying | I have created a link for rocky karbor project. | 09:45 |
| chenying | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/karbor-rocky | 09:45 |
| jiaopengju | That’s good | 09:45 |
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| chenying | if we have any task of feature which want to introduce to karbor, we can add it to this link. | 09:46 |
| chenying | Do you have any idea about the rocky version of karbor? | 09:46 |
| jiaopengju | ok, imo, multi node trigger schedule should be enhanced | 09:47 |
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| chenying | Yes | 09:48 |
| chenying | the goal for rocky also need be considered. | 09:48 |
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| jiaopengju | yes | 09:49 |
| chenying | We can add it to this link. | 09:49 |
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| chenying | Do you have any other questions? | 09:51 |
| jiaopengju | no | 09:52 |
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| jiaopengju | I will add my ideas to thie rocky link in few days | 09:52 |
| chenying | Good idea. | 09:52 |
| jiaopengju | thie/the | 09:52 |
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| jiaopengju | We should attract more contributors :) | 09:53 |
| chenying | yes. We can add it to the link. | 09:54 |
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| chenying | So we can end this meeting. If you have any question, we can discuss it in karbor's irc meeting? | 09:56 |
| jiaopengju | OK | 09:56 |
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| chenying | #endmeeting | 09:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 6 09:59:13 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-03-06-09.42.html | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-03-06-09.42.txt | 09:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/karbor/2018/karbor.2018-03-06-09.42.log.html | 09:59 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 6 16:01:40 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:01 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | hi to everyone who have escaped snowpenstack, or who was lucky enough to not go :p | 16:02 |
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| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from prev meeting (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| ihrachys | "ihrachys to update grafana periodic board with new names" | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | merged https://review.openstack.org/547661 | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | "report test_get_service_by_service_and_host_name failure in periodic -pg- job" | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | ouch that one was on me but I forgot to put my name on it and missed | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | meh, it's already quite old and we will check status of the job later anyway and figure out what to do with it | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | "mlavalle to look into linuxbridge ssh timeout failures" | 16:04 |
| slaweq | I was looking on that one | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: I think we gave that one to slaweq | 16:04 |
| slaweq | so I was debugging it for a while and I couldn't reproduce it locally | 16:05 |
| slaweq | so finally I pushed some DNM patches to be able to telnet to remote_pdb when test will fail | 16:05 |
| slaweq | this didn't give me anything also | 16:05 |
| slaweq | so I talked with infra team to add my ssh key to such node where this tests failed | 16:06 |
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| slaweq | and I checked there that all is working fine when I logged in | 16:06 |
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| ihrachys | and you check in European hours I assume. maybe it's genuine cloud load and slow instance boot? | 16:07 |
| slaweq | so I tried one (stupid) simple thing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549324/ | 16:07 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: no, tests on gate was failing many time | 16:07 |
| slaweq | *many times | 16:07 |
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| slaweq | after all it looks for me that it is just problem with too long time for instance boot | 16:08 |
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| ihrachys | in linuxbridge job, it's a single node doing all things, tempest, controller, compute... | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | in dvr one, compute is separate | 16:09 |
| slaweq | when I proposed patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549324/ I run gate jobs twice on it and in both cases lb scenario tests catched my additional log | 16:09 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: exactly - I then found that lb is single node and dvr is multinode config | 16:09 |
| slaweq | I couldn't find anything else wrong with it :/ | 16:09 |
| slaweq | ok, I'm done now :) | 16:10 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, when it hits the message, does it recover quickly after that or still takes some time? | 16:10 |
| slaweq | let me check as I don't remember exactly | 16:10 |
| slaweq | http://logs.openstack.org/24/549324/2/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/16197fa/logs/tempest.txt.gz#_2018-03-03_09_52_10_363 | 16:11 |
| slaweq | here is example of such log | 16:11 |
| slaweq | it looks that it took about 1 minute more to connect | 16:12 |
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| ihrachys | yeah. and what about the other one? is it also aligned to 1 minute? | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | no, seems like there it took 50 seconds | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | so yeah, it looks just like slow instance spawning | 16:14 |
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| slaweq | it's not exactly same time for all | 16:14 |
| slaweq | it looks like that for me | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | afair we don't have nested virt enabled in gate | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | afair it was a major issue for octavia scenarios where they needed to start amphora instance per balancer | 16:15 |
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| slaweq | yes, there was an issue but AFAIR problem was with nested virtualization was only in OVH cloud | 16:15 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, it would probably be interesting to see how long it usually takes in dvr runs | 16:16 |
| ihrachys | to compare. is it also close to the limit? | 16:16 |
| slaweq | one thing which I also found is that it takes really long time to boot an instance in such failed case | 16:17 |
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| slaweq | e.g.: http://logs.openstack.org/71/548071/5/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/d792a4a/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-03-02_17_02_34_200671 | 16:17 |
| slaweq | from instance logs it looks that it is ready after more than 400 seconds | 16:17 |
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| slaweq | and it was similar in other cases which I checked | 16:17 |
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| slaweq | ihrachys: I can check such logs in dvr scenario to compare it | 16:17 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, do I interpret it correctly that it stayed in raising interfaces stage for 3min 42s / 8min 25s ? | 16:19 |
| ihrachys | "Starting Raise network interfaces" | 16:19 |
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| ihrachys | here http://logs.openstack.org/71/548071/5/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/d792a4a/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-03-02_17_02_34_168025 | 16:20 |
| slaweq | I don't know exactly | 16:20 |
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| ihrachys | well it looks like it. in this case, it may be something on our side that blocks the interface up. | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | maybe dhcp not replying or smth | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | though eventually it succeeds | 16:21 |
| slaweq | but please note that first entry is 2min 52s/ 7 min 47s | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | yeah but maybe that's when it starts to log | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | my interpretation is that - 'the job took long time already, let's start log about it being still in progress' | 16:22 |
| slaweq | but please check http://logs.openstack.org/71/548071/5/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/d792a4a/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-03-02_17_02_34_162615 | 16:22 |
| slaweq | it took 166 seconds even here, before this "raise network interface" | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | yeah but I mean, those 3min+ can be decisive for failure | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | the limit is what, 5 minutes? | 16:23 |
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| slaweq | something like that, | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | maybe it doesn't sit there for too long in dvr job | 16:23 |
| slaweq | I will check also dhcp logs for it | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | 'just' 166 seconds or so | 16:23 |
| slaweq | please add me action for that for next week :) | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | #action slaweq to check why it takes too long to raise interfaces in linuxbirdge scenarios job, and to compare with dvr | 16:24 |
| slaweq | thx | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | "ihrachys to update grafana boards to include master data only" | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | so I actually looked into it, and I believe it's my misunderstanding | 16:25 |
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| ihrachys | the board explicitly pulls data from .master. queries | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | so there is no issue with mixed data | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:26 |
| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | the prev time we decided to give functional and other newly stable jobs some time till next meeting and see what proves itself with time and maybe consider some for voting / gating | 16:27 |
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| jlibosva | functional is not voting? | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | looking at functional / fullstack / api board, it's not clear we can deduce much from it | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, I believe it's not gating | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | I mean, it's in check queue but not gate queue | 16:28 |
| jlibosva | is it some recent change? | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | eh. now you make me sanity check :) | 16:28 |
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| jlibosva | oh, probably it's just not shown in grafana | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | oh actually nevermind, it's voting / gating | 16:29 |
| jlibosva | I thought for a second something happened and it was pulled back from gate Q :) | 16:29 |
| jlibosva | sorry for disturbance | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | :) yeah I am bad at tracking the real world | 16:29 |
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| ihrachys | so as for fullstack, I see spikes in the last week but those seem to repeat what -api- job does | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | currently at ~25% failure rate | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | we even have unit tests at 20% | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | not sure what happened during the last week | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | but anyway, we'll take a look at fullstack separately | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | scenarios are doing bad too, 50% for both | 16:32 |
| slaweq | for linuxbridge it's still same issue as we already talked today | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, yeah but now failure rate reflected back in dvr. it was rather stable the last time we gathered. | 16:33 |
| slaweq | I see | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | but yeah, not clear how much of the rate is because of gate breakage that brought all jobs to 100% failure rate two days ago | 16:33 |
| ihrachys | maybe we should revisit it again later to get a better picture | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | #action ihrachys to check grafana stats several days later when dust settles | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 16:34 |
| ihrachys | one thing that is new on the board is it seems that rally job is totally busted | 16:34 |
| slaweq | yes, but there is issue for that already reported I think | 16:35 |
| jlibosva | it's gonna be fixed soon | 16:35 |
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| jlibosva | https://bugs.launchpad.net/rally/+bug/1753713 | 16:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1753713 in Rally "Rally job on neutron CI broken" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Andrey Kurilin (andreykurilin) | 16:35 |
| jlibosva | fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549627/ | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | fix merged | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | so we should be back to normal | 16:35 |
| jlibosva | oh, it merged :) | 16:35 |
| ihrachys | they don't need to release right? | 16:36 |
| jlibosva | 6 minutes ago, nice :) | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | it's from git | 16:36 |
| jlibosva | that I don't know | 16:36 |
| ihrachys | yeah it's from master: http://logs.openstack.org/22/549822/4/check/neutron-rally-neutron/1ef49e4/logs/devstacklog.txt.gz#_2018-03-06_11_18_33_774 | 16:37 |
| * jlibosva nods | 16:37 | |
| ihrachys | periodics are stable so that's good too | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | ok, now to specific jobs | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:38 |
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| ihrachys | slaweq, any patches in your pipeline for fullstack? | 16:38 |
| slaweq | no | 16:38 |
| slaweq | I wasn't doing anything with fullstack in last days | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | ehm, I have a question | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | I was looking at a random patch | 16:39 |
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| ihrachys | looking for fullstack results | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536747/ | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | and I don't see any | 16:39 |
| ihrachys | is it just me | 16:39 |
| jlibosva | it's from january | 16:39 |
| slaweq | I don't see fullstack there also | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | ah right. and there's: | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | neutron-fullstack finger://ze03.openstack.org/db42044c8be14621bd79843789dac0c8 : POST_FAILURE in 43m 40s (non-voting) | 16:40 |
| jlibosva | today I saw fullstack results | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | in comments | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | ok nevermind | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | ok here's another one that is fresh | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/83/549283/1/check/neutron-fullstack/cbad08a/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:41 |
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| slaweq | looks like some problem with starting agents/processes | 16:41 |
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| ihrachys | yeah I checked test_ha_router and neutron-server + 4 agents (2 dhcp and 2 ovs) are up. shouldn't there be also l3? | 16:42 |
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| jlibosva | there should | 16:43 |
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| ihrachys | here is where it failed to start agnet: http://logs.openstack.org/83/549283/1/check/neutron-fullstack/cbad08a/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestHAL3Agent.test_ha_router.txt.gz#_2018-03-06_08_20_19_235 | 16:43 |
| jlibosva | I checked logs now and Halting async process [neutron/tests/fullstack/cmd/l3_agent.py --log-dir /opt/stack/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestLinuxBridgeConnectivitySameNetwork.test_connectivity_VXLAN-and-l2pop_ --log-file neutron-l3-agent--2018-03-06--08-13-38-219990.log --config-file /tmp/tmpzpOvIu/tmpZEeIKB/neutron.conf --config-file /tmp/tmpzpOvIu/tmpZEeIKB/l3_agent.ini] in response to an error. | 16:43 |
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| ihrachys | right. but not many details | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | I can have a look at it | 16:44 |
| jlibosva | I'll try it locally | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | yeah. maybe first step is to understand how to collect logs in those cases. | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | maybe we can somehow get the output at least until it starts logging into console | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | eh, sorry into the logfile | 16:45 |
| slaweq | I'm not sure if agent logs something to console in such case | 16:46 |
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| ihrachys | and another weird thing is, it fails to start the agent, but still waits for nothing for minutes and minutes. it could fail immediately maybe. | 16:46 |
| slaweq | even if You spawn it locally with same command if You give --log-file then it will not log to console IMO | 16:46 |
| jlibosva | I might have a patch for it somewhere in abandoned patches, to read stderr and stdout in case process was halted in response to error | 16:46 |
| slaweq | recently I was checking it with some DNM patches pushed to gerrit and rechecked :) | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | it should still write output to async process buffers | 16:47 |
| slaweq | but maybe we should have merged some better logging there | 16:47 |
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| slaweq | jlibosva: You're right | 16:47 |
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| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to look into agent startup failure and missing logs in: http://logs.openstack.org/83/549283/1/check/neutron-fullstack/cbad08a/logs/ | 16:48 |
| slaweq | some time ago I was checking it to fix some problem with l3 agent in fullstack tests | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | there are not that many fullstack failures actually | 16:49 |
| ihrachys | (I am trying to find another one) | 16:49 |
| slaweq | btw. there is currently only one test marked as unstable_test() in fullstack | 16:50 |
| slaweq | related to security groups | 16:50 |
| slaweq | so if there is no so many failures, it's good IMO :) | 16:50 |
| ihrachys | yeah that's good | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | I actually failed to find another fresh one | 16:51 |
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| ihrachys | so let's assume it's good. we will give it a week to prove it on chart since now it's probably distorted by gate instability | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | #topic Scenarios | 16:52 |
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| ihrachys | we know what's happening in linuxbridge, so let's figure out what's the deal with dvr one | 16:52 |
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| haleyb | someone said dvr :) | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | (while looking for a failure, I noticed scenarios not triggered in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550055/) | 16:54 |
| jlibosva | haleyb: you have higlighting set for dvr? :) | 16:54 |
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| haleyb | yup, i'm just looking out of corner of eye due to other meeting | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | ok found one failure here: http://logs.openstack.org/07/548607/1/check/legacy-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-scenario/84cacc5/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-03-06_13_42_42_767535 | 16:55 |
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| ihrachys | ssh connection timeout it is | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, see it took 1min 29s / 6min 22s | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | to raise interfaces there | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | still a lot | 16:55 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: yes, I was just looking for that :) | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | so maybe effectively bumping the ssh timeout for the job would fix that one too | 16:56 |
| ihrachys | the instance is up for ~249.666088 until it claims full boot | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | it's ~4 minutes | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | the timeout of 5 minutes would be enough in this case, so maybe it's something else | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | I guess we can revisit that one after we deal with linuxbridge. maybe the fix will be the same. | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | fingers crossed | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | ok we are out of time for today. thanks for joining. | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:59 | |
| slaweq | thx | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 6 16:59:52 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-03-06-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| slaweq | bye | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-03-06-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-03-06-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
| jlibosva | thanks, bye :) | 16:59 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 6 18:00:02 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he | 18:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 18:00 |
| lamt | o/ | 18:00 |
| jgr | Hello | 18:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 18:01 |
| lbragstad | we have a pretty light agenda today - so we'll give it a minute or two for folks to show up[ | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | i also expect people to be recovering from travel or even still dealing with it | 18:02 |
| rodrigods | hey | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | we'll get started at 5 after | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #topic trello board/rocky roadmap | 18:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "trello board/rocky roadmap (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:05 | |
| lbragstad | just a heads up for everyone | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | i've spent the last few days in trello attempting to capture context from last week | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/b/wmyzbFq5/keystone-rocky-roadmap | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | most of the larger initiatives should be captured accordingly | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | along with some of the one-off action items | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: and i will being going through it early next week, so there might be some changes between now and next weeks meeting | 18:06 |
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| lbragstad | feel free to poke around and let me know if there is anything i missed | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | next week we'll focus on setting more realistic timelines and finding/updating ownership | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | #topic new meeting time | 18:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new meeting time (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:07 | |
| lbragstad | per the retrospective | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | we're going to move the keystone weekly meeting time | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | i plan to propose that change today | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | which might result in a different meeting room depending on availability | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | next week we'll plan to at least have the meeting 2 hours earlier | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | i'll send a note to the mailing list once the change is proposed | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | #info no policy meeting tomorrow | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | just a heads up here - but we're going to cut down on the frequency of the policy meetings on wednesday | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | we *might* just call for them on an as-needed basis | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | but - don't expect to have one tomorrow | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to propose new meeting time for keystone meeting | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to send note to mailing list about new meeting time | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to send reminder about policy meeting tomorrow | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | that's about all i had | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:10 | |
| lbragstad | floor is open if anyone has comments or questions | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | just FYI - it's WIP, but i plan to have a full summary of the PTG ready by the eod | 18:11 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: how was the PTG overall? | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | i thought it went really well | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | imo - the big theme was integrating the stuff we did in Queens with other projects | 18:13 |
| samueldmq | cool. integrating is always great | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | and i thought we got plenty of feedback that push things forward from a cross-project perspective | 18:13 |
| cmurphy | o/ i'm sort of here via phone | 18:13 |
| samueldmq | cmurphy: tapping really fast, ahn? | 18:13 |
| samueldmq | :) | 18:13 |
| samueldmq | typing********8 | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | is anyone else working on PTG summaries? or is there something you'd specifically like me to reference in mine? | 18:14 |
| cmurphy | i'm eorking on one | 18:15 |
| knikolla | same | 18:15 |
| cmurphy | lots of ntes to go through | 18:15 |
| cmurphy | notes | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: knikolla awesome - i was hoping other would do one | 18:15 |
| lbragstad | others* | 18:15 |
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| lbragstad | there is so much cross project context to go through | 18:15 |
| knikolla | yep. writing is the best way to consolidate that info in a way that flows. | 18:16 |
| clarkb | One thing I was going to ask about (and maybe this is related to the meeting time change for you all) is someone mentioned lsat week tht in your retrospective certain tools (infra hosted and otherwise) have been problematic for some devs? I'd be curious to hear more about that to make sure there isn't something more infra could be doing to help there | 18:17 |
| * lbragstad finds a link to the retro | 18:17 | |
| lbragstad | #link v | 18:17 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/b/Vo6dRALh/keystone-queens-retrospective | 18:17 |
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| cmurphy | dims had insights into that for huawei devs | 18:18 |
| clarkb | that board is apparently not visible? | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | ah - hrybacki is the only admin | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | and it's only team visible | 18:18 |
| knikolla | should probably make that open | 18:19 |
| cmurphy | irc is cmmonly blocked and there was some problrm (technical?) with responding to mailing lists | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to check with hrybacki on making the retro public | 18:20 |
| cmurphy | wxy could also speak about it but hes probably asleep | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: yeah - IRC was one of the big problems | 18:20 |
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| lbragstad | iirc | 18:20 |
| lbragstad | trello was good because apparently they have access to that | 18:20 |
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| lbragstad | i'm not sure what other dev tools there were | 18:21 |
| clarkb | lbragstad: but no one else has access to trello :/ | 18:21 |
| cmurphy | i think email was one but i dont remember if it was a technical reason or a social one | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: i think it was social - they can get access to mailing list, but they don't always feel comfortable responding | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | clarkb: yeah :( | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: i think it was this one - v | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | #link https://trello.com/c/QldE5koC/40-is-there-another-type-of-asynch-communication-method-we-can-use-to-communicate-with-apac-contributors | 18:22 |
| knikolla | lbragstad: yes. | 18:23 |
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| knikolla | discussion was both on technical and social barriers. | 18:23 |
| knikolla | with irc being blocked, and mailing lists being a social barrier. | 18:23 |
| clarkb | did we get info on where/how irc was being blocked? | 18:24 |
| knikolla | how to encourage discussion with apac contributors, like etherpads wheere they can easily ++, or write a comment without committing to a full mail post. | 18:24 |
| clarkb | (we don't have to solve all this now, but do want to help if infra can help) | 18:24 |
| knikolla | clarkb: irc was blocked at work, and they don't always have computer access at home. (have to leave laptop at work) | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | yeah - most of the might be trying to follow discussions (in another language) on their phone | 18:24 |
| lbragstad | s/the/them/ | 18:25 |
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| cmurphy | clarkb: in general infra hosted tools like gerrit and etherpad were said to be fine | 18:29 |
| clarkb | gotcha. Let me know when that trello is opened up and I'll take a look at it in more detail | 18:29 |
| lbragstad | clarkb: ++ will do | 18:29 |
| lbragstad | thanks for checking in | 18:29 |
| lbragstad | clarkb: actually - do you know if you plan to follow up on the performance stuff we talked about last week/ | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | when we were talking about perf testing and dedicated hardware with mtreinish? | 18:30 |
| lbragstad | i remember the discussion wrapping up with talk about an email thread? | 18:31 |
| clarkb | ya I actually ended up briefly talking about it with mnaser at the ptg | 18:32 |
| clarkb | He had some ideas on the hosting side that I hadn't considered | 18:32 |
| clarkb | (mostly how to orgnize that sort of thing) | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | oh - nice | 18:32 |
| clarkb | lbragstad: maybe you can start a thread with some of your needs so they are written down and I can recap current infra abilities then we go get mnaser/mtreinish to chime in too | 18:33 |
| mnaser | ^ :) | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | just to openstack-dev? | 18:33 |
| clarkb | ya I think thats fine | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | ok - cool | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | #action lbragstad to write down performance testing needs in a note to the dev mailing list | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | anything else we want to cover today? | 18:35 |
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| lbragstad | cool - well thanks for coming all | 18:37 |
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| lbragstad | reminder office hours will be starting in about 20 minutes | 18:38 |
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| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 6 18:38:05 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-03-06-18.00.html | 18:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-03-06-18.00.txt | 18:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-03-06-18.00.log.html | 18:38 |
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| clarkb | hello infra | 19:00 |
| clarkb | anyone here for a meeting? | 19:00 |
| AJaeger | hello clarkb | 19:00 |
| dmsimard | \o | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 6 19:01:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| * hrw just in case | 19:01 | |
| ianw | o/ | 19:01 |
| tobiash | o/ | 19:01 |
| * dmsimard adds a topic to agenda | 19:01 | |
| clarkb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| clarkb | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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| pabelanger | hello | 19:02 |
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| clarkb | The PTG was last week. Despite being snowed in and the conference kicking us out a day early I think things went reasonably well | 19:02 |
| * dmsimard added topic to agenda | 19:02 | |
| * mordred waves at the nice people | 19:03 | |
| clarkb | But keep in mind that people may still be traveling (I was traveling less than 12 hours ago still) and don't be surprised if planned discussions didn't happen becuase people were trying to find their way home or just find a guiness | 19:03 |
| * tobiash waves back | 19:03 | |
| hrw | I heard that someone got rebooked from Friday to Thursday | 19:03 |
| fungi | worth noting, the _conference_ didn't kick us out a day early, just the venue | 19:04 |
| fungi | conference went on | 19:04 |
| mordred | hrw: wow | 19:04 |
| clarkb | fungi: right | 19:04 |
| dmsimard | a colleague spent 2 days at the airport for nothing :( | 19:04 |
| clarkb | many of us did still meet thrusday afternoon and friday, but in a far more ad hoc fashion | 19:04 |
| dmsimard | the airline just kept delaying the flights before eventually cancelling them | 19:04 |
| clarkb | basically all that to say expect a slower than normal resumption of dev activities | 19:05 |
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| * mordred would like to thank all scandinavian people for their role in getting him away from the snowstorm | 19:05 | |
| clarkb | #topic Quick PTG Recap | 19:05 |
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| clarkb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-rocky-ptg | 19:05 |
| clarkb | Despite this the Infra team did manage to get through quite a few of its PTG topics | 19:05 |
| clarkb | If you are curious about how discussions went we kept notes on that etherpad | 19:06 |
| fungi | i was less available for infra discussions than i'd hoped | 19:06 |
| clarkb | Also I think the helproom days went a bit better than in denver. More communication and explicit scheduling along with zuulv3 being a reality now probably the reason for that | 19:06 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:06 |
| fungi | #action fungi generate rocky cycle artifact signing key | 19:07 |
| mordred | I wasn't in as may helproom hours as I would have otherwise liked, but I felt I was in a good position to help when I was | 19:07 |
| * fungi didn't get around to going through that with ptg attendees | 19:07 | |
| pabelanger | clarkb: agree, the extra comms we did as a team, helped a lot. | 19:07 |
| clarkb | If there is anything in particular people are interested in happy to talk about that now, but I should also send a recap to the infra list and we can have proper discussion there too | 19:08 |
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| clarkb | ok we'll take it to the mailing list then | 19:09 |
| clarkb | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-20-19.01.txt Minutes from last meeting | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | #action clarkb clean up old specs | 19:09 |
| clarkb | I may actually finally get around to that now that the ptg is over | 19:09 |
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| clarkb | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:10 |
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| clarkb | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:10 |
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| clarkb | really quickly before we get to the gerrit/arm/ara stuff is there anything urgent on to go over with zuul? | 19:11 |
| ianw | umm, it's currently in emergency file, want to talk about that? | 19:11 |
| fungi | let's | 19:12 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:12 |
| ianw | zuul-web changed and it needs new puppet in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549608/ to deploy | 19:12 |
| clarkb | (also I don't think zuul01 ever got rebooted to address the systemd sadness from week before ptg) | 19:12 |
| fungi | i saw some of the discussion but didn't have time to work out the situation | 19:12 |
| * mordred is working on fixing the bits that are needed for 549608 to work | 19:12 | |
| fungi | something about zuul-web static files again, right? | 19:12 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: sorry, jumping back to PTG: Is there an update from some of the help sessions as well? I'm especially interested in the handling of jobs and irrelevant-files | 19:13 |
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| ianw | yep, location moved and apache config just needs to be updated to | 19:13 |
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| AJaeger | clarkb: can do via email as well | 19:13 |
| clarkb | AJaeger: I unfortunately was not part of that discussion but definitely something we should follow up with corvus and AJaeger on | 19:13 |
| clarkb | er | 19:13 |
| pabelanger | we are at 25GB of ram, so a reboot / restart would help bring that down again (zuul) | 19:13 |
| mordred | the main issue remaining is that the building/publishing of the javascript content isn't actually working (and is also broken for storyboard, fwiw) | 19:13 |
| clarkb | corvus and andreaf | 19:13 |
| pabelanger | http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=64792&rra_id=all | 19:13 |
| ianw | for 549608 two things for review ... doesn't seem we need the documentroot any more? since we have a .* redirect? | 19:14 |
| clarkb | mordred: even after updating the job it is still broken? | 19:14 |
| andreaf | clarkb what's up? | 19:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: yes - there are a few more issues - I just found one more | 19:14 |
| mordred | clarkb: but we're VERY close | 19:14 |
| ianw | and dmsimard backups of status? do they actually need to be exported via www? | 19:14 |
| clarkb | andreaf: one sec two discussions happening. We'll come back to the thing you can help with in a few | 19:14 |
| dmsimard | ianw: I thought they needed to, but it turns out they don't | 19:14 |
| dmsimard | ianw: see the confusion in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536622/ | 19:15 |
| dmsimard | ianw: moving them outside of www is fine | 19:15 |
| ianw | ok, that's good if they can just live in /var/lib/zuul/backups for admins to use, that's easy | 19:15 |
| fungi | yeah, we should just use them directly from the filesystem and not worry about serving copies of them through apache | 19:15 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:15 |
| pabelanger | I've done that a few times | 19:15 |
| dmsimard | I'll convert 536622 into a documentation patch to explain examples of restoring from file:// | 19:15 |
| fungi | they only get used by tools run from the command line on the same server anyway | 19:15 |
| ianw | so seems like fixing all that up is in flight, so seems ok to me | 19:16 |
| mordred | fwiw - for everyone's edification (I'll be updating job descripts with this...) | 19:16 |
| fungi | if the dump script doesn't support a file:/// url or something similar today, we should just fix that and not work around it | 19:16 |
| ianw | i'm around all day if i can help | 19:16 |
| mordred | publish-openstack-javascript-tarball is about making and publishing a source tarball | 19:16 |
| mordred | publish-openstack-javascript-content is about making and publishing a bundle of the built html/javascript | 19:17 |
| dmsimard | fungi: I didn't know file:// could be used with the dump script so the confusion came from that | 19:17 |
| fungi | i don't know that it can either, just suggesting it's software we wrote, we should make it support what we need rather than adding complexity in other places to work around a lack of a feature we haven't implemented | 19:18 |
| dmsimard | It can, pabelanger has used it before | 19:18 |
| fungi | perfect. problem solved! ;) | 19:18 |
| clarkb | sounds like the general plan then should be something like 1) fix js publishing jobs 2) fix zuul puppet and remove zuul01 from emergency file 3) reboot zuul01 4) update queue saving tooling if necessary to use local backups ? | 19:18 |
| ianw | mordred: note during debugging, i ran the tools/install_javascript.sh thing on zuul01, so i guess it has yarn & npm installed now. i ran a manual pip reinstall after that to get the setup hooks to build it | 19:18 |
| ianw | then i realised the puppet needed to change, so that's when i went for the revert solution | 19:19 |
| ianw | i'll clean that up | 19:19 |
| mordred | ianw: cool ... | 19:19 |
| clarkb | mordred: ianw ^ have I captured the list of things above reasonably well? | 19:19 |
| ianw | ++ | 19:20 |
| mordred | clarkb: ++ | 19:20 |
| clarkb | anything else zuul related? | 19:20 |
| fungi | sounds like no | 19:21 |
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| clarkb | #topic General Topics | 19:21 |
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| clarkb | ianw: Github replication woes | 19:22 |
| ianw | ahh, yes | 19:22 |
| ianw | more people than you maybe think seem to like github | 19:22 |
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| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-March/005842.html | 19:22 |
| fungi | they all come crawling out of the knotholes as soon as replication begins to fall behind | 19:23 |
| ianw | is the debugging i've done, which seems to suggest something has changed and the nova-specs corruption is holding up the github replication thread | 19:23 |
| * dmsimard has a feeling fungi REALLY doesn't like GitHub | 19:23 | |
| ianw | AFAICT, mostly it tries to push and raises an exception, and thing move on | 19:23 |
| clarkb | worth noting we had to restart gerrit during the ptg as it got really slow | 19:23 |
| clarkb | and I think this started afterthat | 19:23 |
| pabelanger | load was really high on review.o.o too | 19:23 |
| ianw | but it seems that it can get stuck, not raise an exception, and then things just bunch up | 19:23 |
| clarkb | (but we didn't update gerrit so behavior shouldn't have changed, but github did update their ssh stuff recently) | 19:23 |
| fungi | dmsimard: i'm just not a fan of proprietary software/services, really. nothing particularly unique to github | 19:24 |
| ianw | anyway, i've had a proposal to fix it out for a while described in | 19:24 |
| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/119166.html | 19:24 |
| ianw | but is the issue we want to re-index after we do that? | 19:24 |
| fungi | we should be able to perform reindexing online | 19:25 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: ah yeah, RDO got bitten by GitHub removing deprecated ciphers -- I didn't notice any issues with the upstream gerrit for that though | 19:25 |
| fungi | however, gerrit replication and other tasks will lag for some 8-12 hours while online reindexing is performed | 19:25 |
| clarkb | if we don't reindex gerrit will still think it has those refs around? | 19:26 |
| dmsimard | ianw: that upstream bug hasn't really gotten any attention afaict :( https://bugs.chromium.org/p/gerrit/issues/detail?id=6622 | 19:26 |
| ianw | clarkb: i'm not sure, seeing as it's all corrupt who knows if it thinks they're there or not? | 19:26 |
| fungi | clarkb: yeah, not sure what might happen with queries for nova-specs changes if we don't reindex | 19:27 |
| ianw | dmsimard: i'm not surprised, i didn't have a replication for it. i mostly put it there hoping if someone else sees it, we can collaborate | 19:27 |
| ianw | so a) does someone want to check my work (jump into the logs i guess) and make sure they can't see anything else causing this, other than nova-specs? | 19:28 |
| ianw | b) should i copy out the repo for a backup, run the recovery and trigger a reindex soon? | 19:28 |
| fungi | ianw: if memory serves, the corruption seems to have possibly coincided with changes/patch sets which were pushed when gerrit was out of memory | 19:28 |
| dmsimard | ianw: does that mean the repo on git.o.o is corrupted as well ? | 19:29 |
| fungi | we had a few events around that timeframe and during the first couple we checked the repos associated with any of the write errors gerrit logged, but that one seems to have occurred overnight for most of the admins and i don't think anyone checked repository integrity before restarting | 19:29 |
| clarkb | for a) I know that in the past nova-specs was the only repo doing it, I'm not sure if that is still the case | 19:29 |
| ianw | dmsimard: i guess so, but it doesn't get rejected on replication. i think it's github's implementation that notices | 19:30 |
| clarkb | for b) it may be the jetlag or just failing at reading comprehension but I'm not sure I understand the the steps you intend to take. Will gerrit be stopped? | 19:30 |
| fungi | yeah, worst case with git.o.o we can simply blow away the contents on the servers for that repo and then explicitly re-replicate it via the api | 19:31 |
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| ianw | i would stop gerrit, copy out the repo for backup, run the steps to get rid of the bad objects, restart gerrit, reindex? | 19:31 |
| fungi | if we're worried there's lingering corruption there after we repair the canonical copy | 19:31 |
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| clarkb | ianw: ok, thats what I thought but wasn't sure based on the email. I think that is a resonable approach | 19:32 |
| clarkb | The total gerrit outage should be reasonably short in that case, but the reindexing may take a while | 19:32 |
| clarkb | Maybe we just quickly ask release team if that will hold them up and then do it today since people are otherwise recovering from fun travel? | 19:33 |
| dmsimard | ianw has the special ability of being on the other side of the planet when things tend to be quieter | 19:33 |
| fungi | "outage" insofar as the service being offline will be short, but effects of ongoing reindexing will be lengthy | 19:33 |
| fungi | we should make sure, for example, that the release team knows not to approve new releases of stuff until reindexing concludes | 19:33 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: yeah I'm mostly concerned about the cycle-with-trailing projects (not sure if I got that tag name right) | 19:33 |
| ianw | it's also unknown if this will still have issues pushing to github, but i think this is the first step in finding out | 19:33 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: ya but at least one of them was complaining about non working github so may be its ok :) | 19:34 |
| pabelanger | wfm | 19:34 |
| persia | If the process is 8-12 hours, maybe start around 20:00 UTC, with the intent of having things online by 8:00 UTC (which is almost but not quite near the end of the day for many of the most easterly of folk) | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | another option is to say no github until the weekend then do it late on friday? | 19:35 |
| dmsimard | ianw: I'm not saying it's a solution but out of curiosity, do we have the ability to take nova-specs out of the github replication until this is sorted out so the remainder of the projects can sync ? | 19:35 |
| fungi | yeah, that's probably the least impactful timing given the curve we see on our activity graphs | 19:35 |
| clarkb | that is less good for ianw though because of timezones (I guess could do it "sunday") | 19:35 |
| fungi | i need to take a storyboard outage soonish for some database changes as well and was hoping to do that lateish on friday too | 19:36 |
| persia | clarkb: Unless I miscalculate 20:00+11 = 7:00 (so later than now). Not ideal for AU, but less bad than many other times. | 19:36 |
| ianw | usually that's ok, but *this* particular weekend i will be moving house and have very uncertain internet situation | 19:36 |
| clarkb | ianw: in that case I think maybe we should try and start today and just work with release team | 19:36 |
| fungi | wfm | 19:36 |
| dmsimard | We can't temporarily take nova-specs out of the replication to let the remainder of the projects sync ? | 19:37 |
| dmsimard | So that only nova-specs is out of sync | 19:37 |
| fungi | oh, worth noting, the release ptl is in an apac tz this week | 19:37 |
| mordred | dmsimard: not in any easy way | 19:37 |
| fungi | so, yeah, will require some careful notification | 19:37 |
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| mordred | dmsimard: we do a wildcard replication, don't we? | 19:37 |
| dmsimard | mordred: hm, in RDO's implementation (no jeepyb, mind you) we use regexes to control what we replicate (or not) | 19:38 |
| clarkb | ya we do wildcard replication | 19:38 |
| clarkb | we might be able to configure gerrit to exclude nova-specs | 19:38 |
| clarkb | jeepyb is not involved with replication | 19:38 |
| clarkb | replication is entirely controlled by the gerrit server config | 19:38 |
| dmsimard | yeah I found http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-gerrit/tree/templates/replication.config.erb | 19:39 |
| clarkb | if release team says it would be a major burden on them to do this work nowish we can work on an exclusion for nova-specs instead as that will just require a short server restart and no reindex | 19:39 |
| clarkb | ianw: ^ that work? | 19:39 |
| fungi | changing replication config also requires a gerrit restart, fwiw | 19:39 |
| ianw | i'll chat with tonyb (after breakfast time :), and if there's issues then look at the alternatives | 19:39 |
| dmsimard | fungi: yeah, this would only allow us to delay the reindexing until it it more convenient for us | 19:39 |
| clarkb | ok sounds like we have a plan | 19:40 |
| clarkb | Shall we move on to the arm64 update? | 19:40 |
| fungi | check with smcginnis as well, he should hopefully be waking up soon (though will presumably be busy at the ops meetup) | 19:40 |
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| clarkb | fungi: that may mean its an excellent time for the work | 19:41 |
| fungi | potentially | 19:41 |
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| ianw | okdokie | 19:41 |
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| clarkb | Now for some arm 64 updating | 19:42 |
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| clarkb | sounds like we ran a job or jobs? | 19:42 |
| ianw | yes, i forget where the last update was, but we have nodes and they work | 19:43 |
| ianw | currently, AJaeger pointed out late my time last night the builder has disconnected or something http://nl01.openstack.org/dib-image-list | 19:43 |
| ianw | i will look into that, but builds are working | 19:43 |
| gema | excellent news, I have asked my team to work with jeffrey4l on adding some kolla jobs | 19:43 |
| persia | https://review.openstack.org/546466 merged, and ianw started a job to create the ubuntu-ports mirror. last I checked, it was published over AFS, but the contents aren't accessible yet. | 19:43 |
| ianw | persia started on some jobs | 19:44 |
| mordred | \o/ | 19:44 |
| dmsimard | TIL /dib-image-list is a thing | 19:44 |
| ianw | first issue was i'd named the mirror wrong (mirror.cn1 rather than mirror.regionone...) | 19:44 |
| ianw | that fixed pip | 19:44 |
| ianw | persia also updated reprepro for ubuntu-ports | 19:45 |
| ianw | i created the volume and started running a sync, but overnight it's run out of quota so i need to look into that | 19:45 |
| ianw | we may need some more disk on the afs servers, i will check | 19:45 |
| ianw | hopefully today i will push changes to make the mirror setup use ubuntu-ports when appropriate | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | ianw: where did regionone come from? | 19:46 |
| ianw | that's the actual region name in like clouds.yaml config | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | ah, I see it http://logs.openstack.org/19/549319/1/check/storyboard-tox-pep8/bb91d84/zuul-info/inventory.yaml | 19:46 |
| clarkb | right we build the name from the nodepool cloud info | 19:46 |
| ianw | but the horizion is cn1.linaro.cloud and i've been calling it "cn1" | 19:46 |
| pabelanger | kk, so we need to rebuild the mirror? or just update dns | 19:46 |
| clarkb | since that is what ends up in the ansible inventory | 19:46 |
| ianw | i just modified the cname, for now. we could rebuild, not sure it matters | 19:47 |
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| ianw | the problem for jobs atm is that the mirror setup overwrites things so it tries to get at the x86 repo, ergo no packages can install | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | for now its probably not a major thing but could be once new regions are up if they are also called regionone | 19:48 |
| pabelanger | mirror.regionone.linaro.o.o is new CNAME? | 19:48 |
| ianw | so once we have that sorted ... i think jobs will work! | 19:48 |
| mordred | if they are also called regionone it will be a problem | 19:48 |
| gema | clarkb: we can change the name | 19:48 |
| ianw | pabelanger: yep | 19:48 |
| persia | pabelanger: Yes. | 19:48 |
| pabelanger | cool | 19:48 |
| clarkb | gema: I think as long as the new regions have distinct names it iwll be fine (don't have to change existing cloud) | 19:49 |
| pabelanger | mordred: yah, thinking that too | 19:49 |
| persia | It is possible to run a working job now, but the job has to not require any extra packages. | 19:49 |
| gema | clarkb: ack, no problem, will let niedbalski know | 19:49 |
| persia | Outstanding items include: wheel mirrors (to speed up jobs), working around some of the other mirrors not having the right architectures, etc. | 19:50 |
| mordred | (to be fair, we *can* deal with two regions named regionone - it'll just mean each one will get their own cloud name in clouds.yaml) | 19:50 |
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| clarkb | sounds like progress and no major hurdles? | 19:50 |
| * mordred thinks this is super-cool fwiw | 19:51 | |
| ianw | that's it, i think ... thanks to persia who has been super helpful getting things moving! | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | ++ | 19:51 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:51 |
| clarkb | thank you to everyone getting this going, I too think this is super cool | 19:51 |
| persia | clarkb: As we're now in a place where we can start running things, I think we're about to find the hurdles. Lots of naming assumptions, need to do manual things (like AFS volume creation), etc. | 19:51 |
| pabelanger | lots of excitement at PTG for arm64 | 19:51 |
| clarkb | dmsimard had an ara topic as well which we have a little time left over for | 19:52 |
| dmsimard | ohai | 19:52 |
| persia | My guess is that we're about a month out from reliably running a significant number of jobs (and I'm hoping gema, niedbalski, and others can find more resources for then) | 19:52 |
| dmsimard | I just wanted to mention that https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ara-sqlite-middleware would let us enable ara reports for all jobs without having to generate (or store) HTML | 19:53 |
| hrw | pabelanger: and that's good thing | 19:53 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:ara-sqlite-middleware | 19:53 |
| dmsimard | If I didn't screw up anything, that is | 19:53 |
| clarkb | dmsimard: this will drastically cut down on the number of required inodes per job right? allowing us to go back to having ara enabled for all jobs? | 19:53 |
| clarkb | (currently we only generate ara reports on failed jobs) | 19:53 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: yeah, I explain the delta with an example openstack-ansible job here: https://ara.readthedocs.io/en/latest/advanced.html | 19:54 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: tl;dr, one small file instead of thousands of larger files | 19:54 |
| pabelanger | some jobs like ansible and tripleo are still generating their own ara reports, could we update them to use sqlite first too? | 19:54 |
| pabelanger | as another data point of it working | 19:54 |
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| clarkb | pabelanger: they would have to update their jobs but I would expect that our apache server would do the right thing for them too | 19:55 |
| dmsimard | clarkb: another advantage is that we don't have to generate the HTML (which can take >1 min for *large* runs) and we also don't need to rsync that to the log server | 19:55 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: yes, so the goal here is to try it on logs-dev.o.o first | 19:55 |
| pabelanger | yah, logs-dev.o.o wfm | 19:55 |
| dmsimard | pabelanger: and technically, ".*/ara-report/ansible.sqlite" should work for any project | 19:55 |
| dmsimard | I mean, logs.o.o/some/tripleo/job/logs/foo/ara-report/ansible.sqlite | 19:55 |
| fungi | my experience suggests that rsync time is dictated more by inode count than block count too | 19:56 |
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| clarkb | sounds like it will be a good improvement. Please review if you have time :) | 19:56 |
| persia | I share that experience with rsync | 19:56 |
| fungi | so overall this could be a significant chunk of time savings | 19:56 |
| clarkb | #topic Open Discussion | 19:56 |
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| clarkb | Really quickly before our hour is up anything else? | 19:56 |
| dmsimard | If you're curious, I have a standalone hosted test for the middleware | 19:56 |
| jlvillal | Review request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546700/ Make gerritbot install from git master | 19:57 |
| fungi | to the earlier discussion of possibly filtering nova-specs out of gh replication, i'm not immediately seeing how to do that from https://gerrit.googlesource.com/plugins/replication/+/stable-2.13/src/main/resources/Documentation/config.md | 19:57 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/546700/ install gerritbot from git master instead of latest release on pypi | 19:57 |
| jlvillal | And there are 4 (of my) patches up for review for gerritbot: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545607/ | 19:57 |
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| jlvillal | Thanks :) | 19:57 |
| mtreinish | I still could use some help with the subunit2sql check db stuff: | 19:57 |
| mtreinish | basically just need reviews and someone to help drive setting things up after they merge | 19:58 |
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| fungi | i've also been working with zaro_ in #openstack-storyboard to try to determine why story comments via gerrit's its-storyboard plugin have stopped happening... seems like the timing may be related to our 2.13 upgrade | 19:58 |
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| fungi | if anybody has an interest in helping with that. lmk | 19:58 |
| mtreinish | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+topic:subunit2sql-check-data | 19:58 |
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| clarkb | fungi: reading the gerrit docs really quickly maybe we want to set max retries and a timeout | 19:59 |
| clarkb | fungi: and just set that for the github replication and maybe that will get things moving again | 19:59 |
| fungi | oh, and we have a new donor cloud ready to be brought up. if any newer infra-roots want to give that a try, i have the credentials for the accounts and am happy to pass that activity along | 19:59 |
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| mordred | fungi: \o/ | 20:00 |
| dmsimard | fungi: I think i'd like to sign up for that | 20:00 |
| ianw | mtreinish: i have some familiarity with that, i will take a look | 20:00 |
| clarkb | I'm largely going to be out today. My brain is unworking and I haven't had a proper meal in over a day | 20:00 |
| fungi | dmsimard: awesome--i'll get up with you in #openstack-infra later | 20:00 |
| mtreinish | ianw: ok cool, thanks | 20:00 |
| clarkb | I'll follow along on irc and help as I can but should be here properly tomorrow | 20:00 |
| clarkb | and with that we are out of time | 20:00 |
| clarkb | thank you everyone | 20:00 |
| clarkb | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 6 20:00:54 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-03-06-19.01.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-03-06-19.01.txt | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-03-06-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 6 21:00:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| oneswig | ahoy there | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #link agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_March_6th_2018 | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #topic SIG roundup from the PTG | 21:02 |
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| rbudden | hello | 21:02 |
| oneswig | Hi Bob | 21:02 |
| oneswig | How's Bridges? | 21:02 |
| rbudden | Doing good | 21:03 |
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| rbudden | Keeping us all busy! | 21:03 |
| oneswig | We had some discussion around Ironic deploy steps, ramdisk boot and kexec - I think you were interested in this? | 21:03 |
| rbudden | indeed | 21:03 |
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| oneswig | Seems like the deploy steps concept is right for you then :-) | 21:04 |
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| b1airo | Morning oneswig | 21:04 |
| oneswig | It was lucky, we were scheduled at a quiet time when not much was going on | 21:04 |
| oneswig | Hey Blair | 21:04 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 21:04 |
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| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 21:04 |
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| b1airo | I'm wrangling the kids to school so one eye on this | 21:04 |
| oneswig | as a result, we had good attendance by a number of key people | 21:04 |
| rbudden | awesome | 21:05 |
| rbudden | i’m checking out the etherpad now | 21:05 |
| oneswig | b1airo: I got my kids to school hours ago... | 21:05 |
| oneswig | Julia Kreger seemed particularly comfortable with the idea of supporting ramdisk boot as a proven technique | 21:06 |
| b1airo | Bugger, I must have overslept! | 21:06 |
| oneswig | That was at the tail end of a couple of hours of discussion though. We had an in-depth update on preemptible instances from ttsiouts at CERN | 21:07 |
| TheJulia | extremely comfortable given what I've read where it has been done in various deployments | 21:08 |
| martial | Hello all | 21:08 |
| oneswig | Hi TheJulia! | 21:08 |
| oneswig | thanks for joining | 21:08 |
| oneswig | Hi martial | 21:08 |
| oneswig | #chair martial | 21:08 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:08 |
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| oneswig | I was just recapping the discussion (although running backwards) | 21:09 |
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| oneswig | rbudden: one action we took was to document more clearly our use cases for non-conventional Ironic deployment steps | 21:09 |
| rbudden | sounds good | 21:10 |
| oneswig | TheJulia: can you remind me the best way use cases could be made available for the Ironic team? | 21:10 |
| TheJulia | oneswig: a new use case to support a new thing, or an existing usecase that we already support? | 21:11 |
| oneswig | New thing - eg ramdisk boot | 21:11 |
| oneswig | Storyboard / launchpad? | 21:12 |
| TheJulia | oneswig: Create an bug tagged with [RFE] in the subject on ironic's launchpad | 21:12 |
| TheJulia | at least, until we migrate to launchpad. I have to find a spare network cable before I can run a test migration to storyboard | 21:12 |
| oneswig | OK, launchpad will work for now | 21:13 |
| oneswig | If I create a bug and sketch out the need, rbudden can you add details specific to what you'd like for Bridges? I'll circulate to Pierre and Tim as well | 21:13 |
| rbudden | sure | 21:14 |
| rbudden | I think Trandles has the largest use case for ramdisk boot | 21:14 |
| rbudden | we could use that as well for our 12TB nodes on Bridges, but we only have a handful of them | 21:14 |
| oneswig | Sounds like he's up to something interesting | 21:14 |
| rbudden | I think boot from Cinder Vol would fix us up as well | 21:14 |
| rbudden | obviously we like kexec to avoid multiple reboots | 21:15 |
| oneswig | rbudden: there was some discussion on multi-attach for large scale cinder volume boot, I think it needs some testing at scale (which we may try in a couple of months) | 21:16 |
| oneswig | rbudden: how long to reboot a node with 12 TB RAM? | 21:16 |
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| rbudden | i don’t have the exact number off the top of my head, but i recall when we PXE booted it from the showfloor at SC it was at least 30 min :( | 21:16 |
| rbudden | we unded up pulling blades to debug to cut back the boot time since it was a demo ;) | 21:17 |
| TheJulia | oneswig: if you do, we would love to know the details behind any testing since some systems have architectural limits. | 21:17 |
| rbudden | that was years ago though, so i’m unsure if there have been improvements to disable things like ram check, etc. at the iLO level | 21:17 |
| oneswig | TheJulia: johnthetubaguy and mgoddard are likely to be leading it - I'm sure they'll keep you updated. The rough scale is deploying to ~600 ironic nodes. | 21:18 |
| TheJulia | Awesome, thanks! | 21:18 |
| oneswig | Should be a lot of fun :-) | 21:19 |
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| oneswig | There was a good deal of interesting discussion on preemptible instances, including how they might interact with reservations in Blazar. I think that was one of the highlights of the session | 21:21 |
| oneswig | That discussion gained some user input from the Scientific SIG and went on to a Nova group discussion on the Friday afternoon. | 21:23 |
| oneswig | It was a bit difficult to focus by that time given everyone had just had their flights cancelled but I think the Nova team soldiered on. | 21:23 |
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| oneswig | One of the nuances was on whether to perform the preempting action (ie, killing an instance) upon the final "NoValidHost" event, or to attempt to do it slightly before then based on (eg) 95% utilisation. | 21:24 |
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| oneswig | I think the CERN team want the former to get maximum utilisation | 21:25 |
| oneswig | The latter might feasibly be a role performed by a process like Watcher. | 21:25 |
| oneswig | There was also some discussion on a new strategy for resolving quotas across nested project hierarchies. | 21:27 |
| b1airo | Would be nice to have that option integrated given how close they are | 21:27 |
| oneswig | b1airo: right - seems like it, although having many concurrent actors could make a complex system chaotic. Perhaps one strategy will win out. | 21:28 |
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| b1airo | Figuring out what 95% is could be a difficult problem in real deployments | 21:29 |
| oneswig | The quota issue may be resolved in the long term through managing support for quotas through a new Oslo library, tasked with managing resource quotas across a subtree of projects | 21:29 |
| oneswig | There were some interesting issues raised on how to count resource consumption when (eg) mixing virtualised and bare metal compute, given the custom resource classes of baremetal. | 21:31 |
| b1airo | My natural instinct is that they should be separate quotas | 21:31 |
| oneswig | b1airo: does it all come back to the placement service in the end? On your previous comment | 21:32 |
| b1airo | I suspect it has to | 21:32 |
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| oneswig | There was also some interesting discussion in the Ironic sessions on complex deploys - multi-partition, RAID, etc. | 21:36 |
| oneswig | We also briefly talked about setting BIOS config during deploy steps. This raises a question on how to undo in cleaning all that was done in deployment. | 21:37 |
| rbudden | i’m not sure if it currently exists, but a way to plugin certain cleaning steps would be nice | 21:38 |
| rbudden | specifically for us it would be for puppet cert cleanup before a redeploy | 21:38 |
| martial | (catching up on the typed text, why were flight canceled?) | 21:38 |
| oneswig | martial: it snowed a freakish amount for Ireland. | 21:39 |
| oneswig | https://twitter.com/DublinAirport/status/969368265662267393 | 21:40 |
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| oneswig | I got home after ~36 hours, the airport had only just reopened then. This part of Europe isn't geared to handle weather like that, everything shuts down... | 21:41 |
| b1airo | No plows lining the runways like in Chicago | 21:43 |
| TheJulia | They had plows at the airport... but yeah | 21:43 |
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| TheJulia | oneswig: with regards to undo settings applied, I'm fairly sure ironic may only need to undo the boot node, but I've not had much time to think about it.. nor ability to brain after the two day trek home. | 21:45 |
| oneswig | rbudden: I think you can already create custom clean steps, but perhaps you'd need to roll your sleeves up - https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/pike/admin/cleaning.html | 21:45 |
| TheJulia | oneswig: a distinct use case where we would need to peel things back that is not raid would be appreciated, if your aware of one | 21:45 |
| rbudden | oneswig: thanks, i’ll check that out. i haven’t played with cleaning much, but always find simple cleanup steps that would be awesome to just automate | 21:46 |
| oneswig | TheJulia: aside from RAID our main use cases are hyperthreading and power profile. | 21:46 |
| oneswig | I guess hyperthreading is the one you'd notice immediately | 21:46 |
| TheJulia | I think those could all be done upon next deployment if we get deploy steps sorted with the bios interface work | 21:47 |
| oneswig | TheJulia: if it could be done in one hit, that would be good - avoiding another reset... | 21:48 |
| rbudden | hyperthreading is a good one, we occasionally get requests for this as well | 21:48 |
| TheJulia | I suspect it would almost be better to always try to assert desired state upfront. The only thing I can really think of is needing special firmware, but that is.... yeah. | 21:49 |
| oneswig | TheJulia: careful what you wish for! :- | 21:50 |
| TheJulia | I'm sure that would make some operators happy | 21:50 |
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| oneswig | It would mean a comprehensive picture of default settings, to totally define hardware state upon deployment | 21:51 |
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| oneswig | I think that was all I had on the PTG - TheJulia was there anything the scientific SIG would really like from the Ironic sessions? | 21:51 |
| b1airo | Virtualisation features would be another common toggle | 21:52 |
| oneswig | b1airo: agreed. | 21:54 |
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| oneswig | BTW have you seen this project from Dell - https://github.com/dsp-jetpack/JetPack | 21:54 |
| oneswig | The missing piece from python-dracclient (NIC config) is found here. | 21:55 |
| TheJulia | oneswig: I'm still typing up everything. We did briefly discuss firmware management but there are many different ways we can approach that. | 21:55 |
| oneswig | Thanks TheJulia, I'll follow that (probably indirectly via Mark and John) | 21:56 |
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| oneswig | We are nearly out of time... | 21:57 |
| oneswig | #topic AOB | 21:57 |
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| oneswig | Queens is imminent! | 21:57 |
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| oneswig | Mark did a test deploy to shake out some things in Kolla and Bifrost | 21:57 |
| oneswig | One other announcement - https://github.com/openstack/kayobe - one step closer | 21:59 |
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| b1airo | I saw mikal praising Bifrost on Twitter :-) | 21:59 |
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| oneswig | it's the future of deployment! :-) | 22:00 |
| oneswig | On that happy note, final comments? | 22:00 |
| b1airo | He'll be on to Kayobe next | 22:00 |
| martial | Our P2302/ORCA meeting is coming soon ( March 20-21) ... details at federatedcloud.eventbrite.com | 22:00 |
| oneswig | Won't we all b1airo :-) | 22:00 |
| martial | (final comments shameless plug ;) ) | 22:00 |
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| oneswig | thanks martial | 22:01 |
| oneswig | good reminder! | 22:01 |
| oneswig | OK, we are out of time | 22:01 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 6 22:01:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-03-06-21.00.html | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-03-06-21.00.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-03-06-21.00.log.html | 22:01 |
| rbudden | cya later! | 22:01 |
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