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samNTT#startmeeting masakari04:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 13 04:00:07 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samNTT. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: masakari)"04:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'masakari'04:00
samNTTHi all for masakari04:00
sagarahi04:00
nsinghhi all04:00
Dinesh_BhorHi all04:00
samNTTHi all04:00
samNTTlet's start04:00
samNTT#topic Queens Release04:00
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tpatilHi All04:01
samNTTAs we discussed last week, I will create stable/queens for masakari-monitors and python-masakariclient today04:01
samNTTtpatil: Hi04:02
samNTTThough, we have to resolve one issue, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542683/04:02
tpatilThe above issue should be fixed in queens or rocky release?04:03
samNTTtpatil: For queens, openstacksdk>=0.9.19 and upper  openstacksdk===0.11.304:04
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samNTTtpatil: as you all pointed out in the review04:05
samNTTwith current code, UT should fail if openstacksdk>=0.10.004:06
tpatilBut then we will need to wait until global requirements bumps openstacksdk>=0.10.004:06
samNTTtpatil: correct04:07
sagarasamNTT: I think we can support both version openstacksdk>=0.9.19 and >=0.10.0 with modifying masakarimonitors/ha/masakari.py.04:07
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samNTTsagara: That can be done04:07
tpatilDoes OpenStack community is in favor of bumping openstacksdk to 0.10.0 in queens?04:07
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samNTTtpatil: I think not for queens04:08
samNTTtpatil: as you mentioned in the review, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540343/104:08
samNTTMonty proposed it, but it seems not gonna happen04:09
tpatilok, so basically we need to add exception handling code (AttributeError) to support both versions04:10
Dinesh_BhorI agree with sagara san.04:10
samNTTtpatil: sure, agree.04:10
samNTTsupport both versions is the best possible solution at this time.04:11
tpatilthe same problem must be existing in other projects too, does anyone know how the other projects are addressing this issue?04:11
samNTTseems that swift using http_status, but I think they are not using requirement updates04:12
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Dinesh_Bhor#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540315/304:15
samNTTand trove, ironic, zaqur04:16
tpatilDinesh_Bhor: Even though the above patch is merged , it will fail if openstacksdk installed version is 0.9.1904:17
Dinesh_Bhorexactly04:17
Dinesh_BhorI think they haven't noticed the openstacksdk>=0.9.19 issue04:17
samNTTyou will not hit http_status error, if you are not deliberately test against <=0.9.1904:19
samNTTAny way, I will check with other projects and update the patch work for both versions04:21
Dinesh_BhorsamNTT: okay04:21
samNTTIf you find anything, please share.04:21
Dinesh_Bhorsure04:22
tpatilsamNTT: Ok04:22
samNTTOnce we done with this, I will cut off stable/queens.04:22
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samNTTFor openstack/masakari, initial proposal was to create stable/queens on 2/23.04:24
samNTTHowever, thinking about the release schedule of other projects, 2/23 seems bit late.04:25
tpatil#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/174622904:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1746229 in masakari "masakari-engine recovery looking for URL endpoint for service_name='Compute Service' instead of 'nova'" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Louie Kwan (lkwan)04:26
tpatilDo you think this bug is critical?04:27
tpatilI think masakari engine doesn't handle reload of config files correctly04:27
tpatilI haven't yet reproduced this bug though04:27
tpatilThis issue was discussed in this ML thread http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126552.html04:30
samNTTtpatil: I think we must fix it. my impression was need more survey on this04:30
tpatilOk, We will reproduce this bug04:31
Dinesh_BhorIf operator sets 'nova_catalog_admin_info' correctly then there will be no issue.04:31
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tpatilDinesh_Bhor: so I think it's not critical. Maybe some issue with handling reloading of config files04:32
Dinesh_Bhortpatil: yes, agree. I will check this. But definitely the default value of this config option needs to be changed.04:33
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samNTTDinesh_Bhor: tpatil: understood.04:34
tpatilis there any common place where we can see the default service_name of all projects similar to service_type04:34
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samNTTtpatil: Why would you say "problem with config reload"?04:34
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Dinesh_BhorsamNTT: Greg said in his email that after also he changed the config option value he was not able to resolve the issue.04:35
tpatilsamNTT: Becoz if you change the nova_catalog_admin_info config option in masakari.conf and restart the masakari-engine, it doesn't refer to the latest service name04:35
samNTTtpatil: Dinesh_Bhor: gotit..04:36
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samNTTtpatil: Dinesh_Bhor: Could you please find more about this bug and let me know what can be done in queens to fix this issue?04:40
tpatilsamNTT: Sure04:41
Dinesh_Bhoryes04:41
samNTTAdding the correct default would fix this temporary and I would like to know how critical is the "config reload" issue04:42
samNTTtpatil: Dinesh_Bhor; thank you..04:43
samNTTI think I'm still in release topic04:43
tpatilsamNTT: how critical this bug is: it depends on how often you change the config file and want to reload instead of stop/start04:43
tpatilsamNTT: Will reproduce this bug and let you know if this is a easy fix or not04:44
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samNTTtpatil: exactly :).. I meant to say is this effect all config options or part of it.04:45
samNTT#topic Critical Bugs/Patches04:45
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tpatilsamNTT: Will find out the required info04:45
samNTTAny critical issues apart from discussed above04:46
samNTTtpatil: thanks04:46
Dinesh_BhorI think this needs attention: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/531310/304:46
tpatilDinesh_Bhor: I will review this patch today04:48
Dinesh_Bhorokay04:48
samNTTDinesh_Bhor: thanks for the info, I will review this too04:49
nsinghui-cookiecutter patch is pending for review.04:50
nsinghhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/528647/04:50
tpatilsamNTT: In queens cycle, you have no plan to include masakari-dashboard, correct?04:51
samNTTtpatil: correct04:51
samNTTThe reason is, we only have cookiecutter code in there.04:52
tpatilsamNTT: Ok, Niraj is ready with the patches for adding failover segment and hosts in masakari-dashboard. he will propose these patches soon for the community review. Let's review this patch and merge it for Rocky relese04:53
samNTTtpatil: sure, sounds good.04:53
nsinghyes04:53
samNTTLet's review and merge #52864704:54
samNTTnsingh: Thanks for the great work..!04:54
nsinghsamNTT: thank you :)04:54
samNTTAny other issues to discuss?04:55
samNTTnsingh: NP04:55
samNTTLast 5 mins of the meeting04:55
samNTT#topic AOB04:55
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samNTTI will cut the stable/queens for projects as we discussed above.04:56
samNTTPlease let me know if you would like to backport any patches after we create queens branch04:56
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tpatilsamNTT: Sure04:57
samNTTFor further discussion, please use IRC #openstack-masakari or openstack-dev ML with [masakari]04:57
samNTTLet's finish today's meeting.04:58
samNTTThank you all04:58
sagarathanks all, bye04:58
samNTTBYE04:58
samNTT#endmeeting04:58
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qwebirc30643hi, need help for senlin Getting the error ERROR: Property error: : resources.profile.properties.type: : Could not find requested endpoint in Service Catalog.10:09
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QimingHi, qwebirc30643, you may want to stop by the #senlin channel12:57
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jlibosva#startmeeting networking14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 13 14:00:03 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jlibosva. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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jlibosvaHi everybody :)14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'14:00
slaweqhi14:00
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jlibosva#topic Announcements14:00
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jlibosvaThe rc1 has been cut and as far as I understand the master branch is the Rocky branch now14:00
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jlibosvaWhich means only critical fixes need to go to queens at this stage14:01
mlavalleo/14:01
jlibosvaand the release week is at the week of Feb 2614:01
jlibosvamlavalle: hi, I just updated that we cut rc1 and master is Rocky now. Is that correct? :)14:01
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mlavalleas always, you are correct :-)14:02
jlibosvathanks for confirmation :)14:02
jlibosvanext announcement is that at the same week, the PTG is happening in Dublin14:03
jlibosvaif you have a topic you want to discuss there, please put it to the etherpad14:03
jlibosva#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-ptg-rocky14:03
mlavalleI started arranging the topics by day and hour yesterday14:03
jlibosvathat's all from me :)14:03
mlavalleas I assign sessions to days and times, please feel free to add your topic to the session that best fits it14:04
mlavalleif you don't find any that fits, just throw it in the general section at the top and I'll assign it14:05
jlibosvaone note from me: I see that the list of attendees is just mlavalle :) perhaps those attending can write their names down there ;)14:05
mlavallealso I added yesterday a section at the very top for atendees to register your name14:05
mlavallethe format is: name (irc nickname) days staying in Dublin14:06
mlavalleplease register if you are going to Dublin14:06
mlavallethe reason is that we are going to have a social event on Thursday14:06
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mlavalleso I want to have an accurate head count to make a reservation for the group dinner14:07
mlavalleIO'll send a message to the ML later today14:07
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mlavallethat's it14:07
jlibosvathanks :)14:07
jlibosvadoes anybody have any other announcement?14:07
jlibosvaok, moving on14:08
jlibosva#topic Blueprints14:08
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jlibosvaI'm looking at the LP: https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/queens-rc114:08
jlibosvalooks like there are no blueprints that made it to rc, that's good14:09
jlibosvadoes anybody have anything to add regarding blueprints here?14:09
mlavallethere is a bug related to ovsfw14:09
mlavallethat slaweq was working on14:10
mlavalleand we wanted jlibosva's opinion on the patch14:10
slaweqmlavalle: I think it is merged already14:10
mlavalledid you have a chance to look at it?14:10
jlibosvamlavalle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542257/ ?14:10
slaweqjlibosva approved :)14:10
jlibosva#topic Bugs14:10
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mlavalleah perfect14:10
jlibosvasince we're already talking about the bugs :)14:10
jlibosvathanks slaweq for the patch!14:11
slaweqno problem14:11
mlavallewe want to port it to Queens14:11
mlavalleand that is what is going to be our RC214:11
mlavalleso far14:11
slaweqI hope that together with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542596/ it will make tempest tests green14:11
slaweqmlavalle: I will do cherry-picks today14:12
jlibosvamlavalle: good point, it's a clean cherry-pick https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543944/14:12
jlibosvaslaweq: oh, sorry, I just tried to click the button and it worked :)14:12
slaweqjlibosva: thx14:12
slaweq:)14:12
bodenhi I was on bug duty last week, but I have to step away in 1 min for a short bit… the only critical bug I saw come in was https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1748546 which you just discussed14:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1748546 in neutron "ovsfw tempest tests random fails" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)14:12
mlavallecool14:12
slaweqI think that https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542596/ should be also cherry-picked14:12
jlibosvayep14:13
mlavalleboden: yeah, that's the fix we are talking about. Thanks !14:13
bodenhowever I see some bugs came in over the past few days so someone prob needs to take a pass through the new ones14:13
jlibosvaI also see there is also one bug scheduled to rc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171349914:13
openstackLaunchpad bug 1713499 in neutron "Cannot delete a neutron network, if the currently configured MTU is lower than the network's MTU" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee)14:13
mlavallethat one we decided last week that we are going to merge it early in Rocky14:14
mlavalleactually I am taking it over to make sure we fix it14:14
jlibosvamlavalle: ack. do you know who can create a rocky milestone at the Launchpad?14:14
mlavalleand then we will backport it to Queens14:15
mlavallejlibosva: I'll take care of that today14:15
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jlibosvathanks, I added queens-backport-potential tag to it14:15
mlavalleperfect14:15
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mlavalleI will send an email announcing it later today as well14:16
jlibosvaok14:16
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jlibosvaas boden said, we had some incoming bugs that need to be triaged, for this week bug deputy should be janzian14:16
jlibosvajanzian: hi, are you online?14:16
mlavalleif he is not, I'll ping him later today14:17
mlavalleHe is my Austin neighbor ;-)14:17
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jlibosvanice :)14:17
jlibosvathanks mlavalle14:17
jlibosvaanything else related to bugs?14:17
mlavallebefore we go on, I have something very important to announce14:18
mlavalledrum rolls.......14:18
jlibosvadrrrrr14:18
mlavallejlibosva just became a Dad14:18
jlibosvaoh, lol14:18
jlibosvathanks! :D14:18
mlavalleso please join me in congrtulating him14:18
slaweqwow, congratulations!!!!!14:18
jlibosvamlavalle: how do you know?14:18
mlavalleboy or girl?14:18
haleyb+2 to a little neutronian14:18
jlibosvamlavalle: also why is it in the bugs section? :D14:18
slaweqLOL14:19
jlibosvamlavalle: it's a girl named Sara14:19
mlavallemom a baby ok?14:19
mlavalleand baby^^^14:19
jlibosvathey are, thanks :)14:19
mlavallehaleyb pinged me and let me know14:19
jlibosvathat said, I won't be reachable next few weeks14:19
jlibosvaprobably three14:19
jlibosvaso I'll be back after the PTG, hopefully :)14:19
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jlibosvamlavalle: thanks, that was a surprise to me you announced it :D14:20
slaweqhave fun jlibosva :)14:20
* haleyb buys some diaper stocks14:20
mlavalleof course, go enjoy your baby14:20
jlibosvaslaweq: thanks :)14:20
jlibosvaok, moving on :)14:20
jlibosva#topic Docs14:20
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jlibosvaboden: hi, are you still here?14:20
mlavallehe is not14:21
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mlavallehe is taking kid to school14:21
jlibosvaoh14:21
mlavalle7:21am his time14:21
mlavallehe stepped out14:21
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mlavallehe also pinged me on the side14:21
jlibosvamlavalle: using 'whois' or he is also your neighbour? :)14:21
jlibosvaah, ok14:21
jlibosvaamotoki: are you still here?14:22
mlavallehe is my time zone neighbor14:22
mlavallehe is in the Denver area14:22
slaweqeveryone is a neighbour of mlavalle :D14:22
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jlibosvaseems like it's too late there. does anybody have anything related to the docs?14:23
mlavallejust to say14:23
mlavallethat if you have interest in dcos and you are attending the PTG14:24
mlavallethere will be a docs track the first day day14:24
mlavallelet me confirm14:24
mlavalleactually, Monday and Tuesday:14:25
mlavalle#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/#tab_schedule14:25
mlavallethat's it14:25
jlibosvathanks14:25
jlibosvajumping to the next topic14:26
jlibosva#topic Transition to OSC14:26
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jlibosvawith amotoki afk, does anybody have anything?14:26
mlavalleI don't14:27
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jlibosvaperhaps https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534085/ should land?14:27
mlavallegood point14:27
mlavalleI'll take a look at the end of the meeting14:27
jlibosvaok, thanks14:28
jlibosvamoving on14:28
jlibosva#topic neutron-lib14:28
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boden0/14:28
mlavallehey14:28
mlavalleyou made it back, nice14:28
jlibosvanice :)14:28
jlibosvaI was just about to repeat what was said last week with the api-ref :)14:29
jlibosvaboden: you were fast. I hope you didn't break the speed limit ;)14:29
mlavallejlibosva: that shows you some skills that you need to learn now that you are a Dad14:29
jlibosvalol14:29
bodennow that we are in Rocky mode, things are returning to normal.. you’ll start to see both lib and consumption patches surface again14:29
bodenI’ve also started to “re-kick” the neutron-lib database related specs… I’ve got some PoC patches out there.. I hope we can work through some of these topics in Rocky14:30
mlavalleyeap, boden pinged yesterday at the first possible moment to make sure we can start merging things. Super diligent ;-)14:30
boden1 last quick thing on lib14:31
bodengaryk brought up a high-level migration path concern on the LBaaS deprecation work https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542846/14:32
bodenif anyone has comments please see ^14:32
bodenthat’s it for me unless others have want to add something14:32
mlavalleboden: thabks for pointing that out14:32
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mlavalleand I just want to highlight the two specs that boden added to the PTG etherpad14:33
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mlavalle#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47353114:33
mlavalle#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509564/14:34
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mlavallechime in if you have a chance14:34
mlavallethat's all from me14:34
jlibosvathanks folks14:34
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jlibosvaanybody else has anything related to the lib?14:34
jlibosvaok, we have plenty of time today :)14:35
jlibosva#topic On demand agenda14:35
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jlibosvaI added one topic to the wiki that slaweq and I want to discuss: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#On_Demand_Agenda14:35
jlibosvathere was a ML thread earlier in Sept about typo fixing patches: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122472.html14:36
jlibosvayou can see an example of a such patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/540225/14:36
jlibosvaI wanted to get some consensus about what to do as a core reviewer. as similar patches have some small value, I personally don't think it's worth to load CI with them and I would welcome if such patches come with multiple fixes14:37
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jlibosvawhat are your opinions? what should we be doing in these cases? just a small note that all similar patches come from the same email domain14:39
mlavalleI think that if the behavior is recurring, we should probably stop it14:39
jlibosvaand it's just not Neutron14:39
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mlavallespecifically this group from inspur seem to be trying to game the numbers14:40
mlavalleso I would sugest that if we see that it becomes a recurring behavior, flag it with a -214:40
mlavalleand indicate in the comment that it is recurring behavior14:41
jlibosvado you think it would be healthy to provide an argument to find multiple typos?14:41
jlibosvalike.. I don't know, 20 typos per patch or something :)14:41
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slaweqjlibosva++14:41
jlibosvaand in the docs as comments are not operator facing14:41
mlavallejlibosva: would you propose a patch to the contributors guide with a policy proposal on this regard?14:42
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jlibosvaand related to that, if such patch comes, can we somehow throw it from the check queue?14:42
jlibosvamlavalle: yes, that's a good idea14:42
mlavallethat way we can discuss / refine it in gerrit14:42
slaweqI agree with that14:43
* jlibosva nods14:43
jlibosvathanks for help on that :)14:43
mlavallethat way we have a formal guideline14:43
mlavalleand also, when we reject patches, we can point to a policy in the comment14:43
jlibosvaI read the whole thread on the ML but there doesn't seem to be any consensus, so we can solve it at least on a project level this way14:43
mlavalleyeap14:44
jlibosvaalright, we have a next step then. does anybody have any other topic to discuss?14:44
mlavallejust to let the team know that this meeting14:44
mlavallewill be cancelled in two weeeks14:44
mlavallebecause we will be in Dublin in the PTG14:45
jlibosvaenjoy the PTG folks :)14:45
mlavalleso next Tuesday meeting will be on March 13th14:45
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mlavallethat's all I had14:45
jlibosvathanks14:46
jlibosvaand thanks everyone for coming14:46
jlibosva#endmeeting14:46
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mlavallejlibosva: please give Sara a welcome kiss to this World from the Neutron team14:46
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jlibosvamlavalle: haha, I'll do :))) thanks14:47
slaweqthx14:47
slaweqbye14:47
mlavalleo/14:47
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ihrachys#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 13 16:00:48 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci'16:00
mlavalleo/16:00
slaweqhi16:01
ihrachys#topic Actions from prev meeting16:01
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mlavalleihrachys: Kuba won't make it to the meeting16:01
ihrachysack16:01
ihrachysthanks for the notice16:01
mlavalleHe went to hospital to see wife16:01
ihrachysyeah he has better things to care about right now ;)16:01
mlavalleand Sara16:01
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ihrachysfirst action item was "ihrachys report bug for -pg- failure to glance"16:02
ihrachysthat was rather optimistic, before we learned about OVO / facade issue16:02
ihrachysso i didn't16:02
ihrachyslet me check if it's still relevant16:02
ihrachyshttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=14&fullscreen16:03
ihrachysthere was a 2d trench apparently on weekend16:04
ihrachysdon't we run periodics on weekends?16:04
ihrachysok the latest failure seems to be smth different than devstack failure we saw before:16:05
ihrachyshttp://logs.openstack.org/periodic/git.openstack.org/openstack/neutron/master/legacy-periodic-tempest-dsvm-neutron-pg-full/894eb3b/job-output.txt.gz#_2018-02-13_07_13_23_63365316:05
ihrachystest_get_service_by_service_and_host_name failed16:05
ihrachysthat's for compute admin api16:06
ihrachysI will report this one instead16:07
ihrachys#action ihrachys report test_get_service_by_service_and_host_name failure in periodic -pg- job16:07
ihrachysthen there was "slaweq to report bug for ovsfw job failure / sea of red in ovs agent logs"16:07
ihrachysI believe this is largely contained now16:07
slaweqso I reported bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/174770916:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1747709 in neutron "neutron-tempest-ovsfw fails 100% times" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:07
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slaweqand later also https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/174854616:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1748546 in neutron "ovsfw tempest tests random fails" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)16:08
slaweqand now patches for both are merged16:08
slaweqhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/542596/16:08
slaweqadn https://review.openstack.org/#/c/542257/16:08
slaweq*and16:08
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ihrachysok, we need to land backports: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I750224f7495aa46634bec1211599953cbbd4d1df16:09
ihrachysand https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I6d917cbac61293e9a956a2efcd9f2b720e4cac9516:09
slaweqwith those 2 patches neutron-tempest-ovsfw job was green at least 5-6 times when I checked that during weekend16:09
mlavalleyeap16:09
ihrachysmlavalle, we'll need rc2 for those right?16:10
mlavalleyes16:10
slaweqyes, cherry-picks to queens are done already also16:10
mlavallethose two are the only ones we have for RC2, so far16:10
ihrachysslaweq, do we need earlier backports for those bugs?16:10
ihrachyspike and ocata are still open16:10
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slaweqI'm not sure but I will check it ASAP16:11
mlavallewith Pike we have more time16:11
mlavalleOcata is the urgent one16:11
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slaweqihrachys: please assign "action" for me - I will check it after the meeting16:12
ihrachys#action slaweq to backport ovsfw fixes to older stable branches16:12
slaweqthx16:12
ihrachysthanks for fixing the job! incredible.16:12
mlavalle++16:13
ihrachysnext was "ihrachys to look at linuxbridge scenario random failures when sshing to FIP"16:13
ihrachysok that's another one that fell through cracks16:13
ihrachysand I don't have capacity for anything new / time consuming this week16:13
ihrachysso maybe someone can take it over16:14
ihrachysactually, we can probably check if it's still an important issue later in the meeting when we talk about scenarios16:14
mlavallelet's do that16:14
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ihrachys#topic Grafana16:15
ihrachyshttp://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate16:15
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ihrachysfullstack seems to be the only job that is above 50%16:17
slaweqwhat is also good ;)16:17
ihrachyswell except ovsfw but it looks like it quickly goes down with its average16:17
slaweqovsfw patches was merged today so I think we should wait with this one some time16:18
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* mlavalle keeping fingers crossed16:18
ihrachysright, but it's clear it's going down very quick. if that would be a Dow Jones chart we would see people jumping from windows.16:18
mlavalleLOL16:19
slaweqLOL16:19
mlavallelike 192916:19
slaweqbut here lower is better16:19
ihrachysok on serious note... seems like we want to talk about fullstack first thing16:19
ihrachysand then move to scenarios if time allows for it16:19
ihrachys#topic Fullstack16:20
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ihrachysbefore going through latest failures, I think it makes sense to check some patches16:20
ihrachysspecifically, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539953/ enables test_dscp_marking_packets (it's actually already in gate so maybe we can just make a note it may resurface now and skip it)16:21
ihrachysalso those backports for the same test for older branches: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ia3522237dc787edb90d162ac4a5535ff5d2a03d516:21
slaweqbut I believe this test should works fine now16:21
ihrachysI believe once those are in, we can also backport the re-enabling patch16:21
ihrachysthere are also those backports: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ib2d588d081a48f4f2b6e98a943bca95b9955a14916:22
ihrachysany other patches I missed for fullstack?16:23
slaweqAFAIR https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ib2d588d081a48f4f2b6e98a943bca95b9955a149 are required by https://review.openstack.org/#/q/Ia3522237dc787edb90d162ac4a5535ff5d2a03d516:23
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ihrachysyeah I think I mentioned both16:24
mlavalleyes you did16:24
slaweqyes, just saying :)16:24
ihrachysok now looking at a latest run16:24
ihrachyshttp://logs.openstack.org/53/539953/2/check/neutron-fullstack/55e3511/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:24
ihrachystest_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigterm and test_l2_agent_restart16:25
ihrachysall old friends16:25
ihrachysat some point I should have even looked at one of them but never did16:25
ihrachysand as I said I am out of capacity for this week anyway16:25
slaweqI can take a look on them16:26
ihrachysI can't see neither reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=fullstack16:26
ihrachysslaweq,16:27
ihrachysgreat16:27
slaweqhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/167353116:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1673531 in neutron "fullstack test_controller_timeout_does_not_break_connectivity_sigkill(GRE and l2pop,openflow-native_ovsdb-cli) failure" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ihar Hrachyshka (ihar-hrachyshka)16:27
ihrachysactually maybe the sigterm one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/167353116:27
ihrachysriiight16:27
slaweqisn't this related?16:27
ihrachysprobably16:27
ihrachysjust different signal16:27
slaweqI will take a look on them this week16:28
ihrachys#action slaweq to look at http://logs.openstack.org/53/539953/2/check/neutron-fullstack/55e3511/logs/testr_results.html.gz failures16:28
ihrachysslaweq, very cool, thanks16:28
slaweqno problem16:28
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ihrachyschecked another run, same failures: http://logs.openstack.org/01/542301/1/check/neutron-fullstack/d8f312e/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:29
ihrachysand another failed run - same: http://logs.openstack.org/96/542596/6/check/neutron-fullstack/8db76b7/logs/testr_results.html.gz (just one failed though)16:29
ihrachysit's clear that if those are tackled, it may get fullstack down to normal failure rate16:30
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ihrachysso it's great we'll have slaweq on those, meaning next week we'll have it green ;)16:30
slaweqI hope so :)16:30
slaweqI can always mark them as unstable to make it green :P16:30
ihrachystrue lol16:31
ihrachys#topic Functional16:32
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ihrachysI am looking at functional job charts and it seems to work fine. actually showing weird 0% failure last several days.16:32
ihrachysmlavalle, what would be the standard to hit to get it marked voting in check queue?16:32
ihrachysfor the record I look at http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=7&fullscreen16:33
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mlavallegood question16:34
mlavalle10% sounds good to me but I am shooting from the hip16:34
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mlavallewhat do you think?16:34
* ihrachys checking what's average for unit tests16:35
ihrachysthese are unit tests: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=10&fullscreen16:35
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ihrachysif you look at 30 days stats, you see average is somewhere between 10 and 1516:36
mlavalleso 10% sounds good16:37
ihrachysmlavalle, let's say we can hit 10%. how long should we experience it to consider voting?16:37
mlavallelet's say a week16:37
mlavallewith that average16:37
ihrachysok gotcha, and full *working* week I believe16:37
ihrachysbecause weekends are not normal16:37
mlavalleyes16:37
ihrachysok we are in the second day then right now. I will monitor it proactively then. ;)16:38
mlavallecool16:38
mlavallewe can revisit net meeting16:39
mlavallenext^^^16:39
ihrachysok16:39
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ihrachys#topic Scenarios16:39
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ihrachysthe chart here: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=8&fullscreen16:39
ihrachysok. first, dvr one is 20-25%16:40
ihrachysslaweq since the job uses ovsfw shouldn't we expect some stabilization there too?16:40
slaweqI don't know exactly16:41
slaweqdo You have some example failure?16:41
ihrachysno not yet. we'll look at them later.16:42
ihrachysas for linuxbridge job, it's 25-30% so slightly worse16:42
ihrachyshence first looking at linuxbridge16:42
ihrachysexample failure: http://logs.openstack.org/07/492107/9/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/086f728/logs/testr_results.html.gz16:43
ihrachysall ssh failures using fip16:43
ihrachyssince this job is not dvr / ha, routers are legacy16:45
ihrachysso we should e.g. see arpings and iptables-restore and 'ip addr add' in logs16:45
ihrachysthis is where the fip address is configured on l3agent side: http://logs.openstack.org/07/492107/9/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/086f728/logs/screen-q-l3.txt.gz#_Feb_13_15_11_35_94019916:47
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ihrachysso the address is configured in namespace; arping is executed; tempest should know about correct location of the address16:48
slaweqand iptables-save is also done just after so NAT should be also done16:48
haleybthere's no errors in the l2 agent log either16:48
slaweqmaybe there is some issue with SG then?16:49
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ihrachyshm possible16:50
ihrachysand also instances booted fine and reached metadata16:50
haleybthe only thing that merged recently was the ARP change i did maybe, moved things to PREROUTING chain16:50
ihrachys(it's seen in one of test cases that logs console)16:50
haleybslaweq: right, unless its SG16:50
ihrachysslaweq, wouldn't it be Connection refused if SG closed the port?16:51
slaweqI don't think so16:51
ihrachysthere it seems it just hangs there until timeout16:52
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ihrachyshaleyb, so one thing that pops up is this message:16:55
ihrachyshttp://logs.openstack.org/07/492107/9/check/neutron-tempest-plugin-scenario-linuxbridge/086f728/logs/screen-q-agt.txt.gz?#_Feb_13_15_19_22_79476316:55
ihrachysTried to remove rule that was not there: 'POSTROUTING' u'-m physdev --physdev-in tap967365b4-ce --physdev-is-bridged -j neutron-linuxbri-qos-o967365'16:55
slaweqI think there is already patch for that16:55
ihrachysor is it the red herring that slaweq has a patch for16:55
ihrachyshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/539922/ ?16:56
slaweqhaleyb did this patch I think16:56
haleybyes, there is, red herring i believe16:56
ihrachysah wait that's db side16:56
ihrachyshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/541379/ ?16:56
slaweqyes16:56
slaweqYou were faster :)16:56
haleyband that passed the scenario test16:57
ihrachysok I nudged it in gate16:57
ihrachysbut do we think it could break anything?16:57
slaweqthis warning? I don't think so16:58
ihrachysok16:58
ihrachysso there is something else16:58
ihrachysand we are almost out of time16:58
slaweqIMHO yes16:58
slaweq*yes, there is something else :)16:59
ihrachysthis issue doesn't have obvious leads in logs so one thing to consider is maybe we should expand logging16:59
mlavalleihrachys: I don't have much time this week, but if nobody else has, I'll try to take a stab at it16:59
slaweqI will probably be busy with debugging fullstack tests17:00
ihrachysone thing I noticed is most tests that failed don't log console on failure. that could be worth expanding on, not just for this issue.17:00
ihrachysmlavalle, please do!17:00
mlavalleok17:00
ihrachys#action mlavalle to look into linuxbridge ssh timeout failures17:00
ihrachysthanks folks for joining17:00
ihrachys#endmeeting17:00
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slaweqthx, bye17:00
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone18:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 13 18:00:01 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
lbragstadping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'18:00
kmallocBUT I DUNT WANNA /needsmorecoffee :P18:00
kmalloc;)18:00
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting18:00
gagehugoo/18:00
lbragstadagenda ^18:00
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knikollao/18:01
lbragstadi know we have a couple people that are going to miss - but we'll give it another minute since the agenda is light today18:01
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lbragstadok - let's get started18:03
lbragstad#topic RC status18:03
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lbragstadso - a couple things cropped up18:03
lbragstadwe still have to figure out what is going on with the translations18:03
lbragstadi attempted to back port those to stable/queens, but one apparently went into merge conflict18:04
lbragstadi checked with the translation team yesterday and they suggested we wait to see what the proposal bot does today18:04
lbragstadwe'll likely have to follow back up with them18:04
kmallocwfm18:04
hrybackio/18:05
gagehugook18:05
kmallocjust ping me when it goes up if i don't see it18:05
kmalloci'll push those through18:05
lbragstadkmalloc18:05
lbragstadthanks18:05
lbragstadin other news18:05
kmallocany proposal bot/release bot stuff for stab* branches is easy18:05
lbragstadit's never a release without a fire of some kind18:05
kmalloceh, this isn't even a fire18:05
lbragstadhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/174897018:05
openstackLaunchpad bug 1748970 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Role assignment API doesn't prune system roles when querying role.id={role_id}" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Lance Bragstad (lbragstad)18:05
kmallocthis is a mild smolder18:05
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kmallocgrizzly.. that was a fire of a release :P18:06
lbragstad#Link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1748970 is going to need to be fixed and backported before we cut rc218:06
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lbragstadin addition to that, i found another bug where system role assignments aren't cleaned up when users/groups are deleted18:06
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/543622/18:06
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lbragstadi apologize, this was my doing and likely a gap in my testing when i did the implementation18:07
lbragstadi'm going to get bug reports open for ^18:07
lbragstadso that we can track appropriate fixes for them and get them backported as well18:07
lbragstadafter that - we should be good to go18:08
samueldmqlbragstad: cool18:08
lbragstadi did talk to smcginnis yesterday about rc2, and he suggested we wait until the end of the week to propose it18:08
samueldmqare all the tests for system scope consolidated in a place, such a separate test class?18:09
samueldmqor are they mixed up with the other role assignment tests18:09
lbragstadthat's if we land the translations, the fix for 1748907 and the role assignment clean up patch18:09
lbragstadthey are in with the role assignment tests18:09
* samueldmq nods18:09
lbragstadi plan on getting all that stuff squared away during office hours18:10
lbragstadqq for the group though, do we consider the fact that bootstrap doesn't assign the admin a role on the system a bug?18:11
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530410/18:11
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kmalloci'd say yeah18:12
kmallocsince we're looking to transition to system-roles18:12
lbragstadok - i'll get another bug report open for that and repropose it18:12
lbragstadotherwise it would be possible for people to lock themselves out of APIs18:13
lbragstadif that bootstrapping didn't happen18:13
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kmallocyep18:13
lbragstadis anyone going to be around during office hours that can help expedite reviews for these?18:13
kmallocyeah. i'll be around18:14
lbragstadawesome18:15
lbragstad#action lbragstad to finish opening bugs for fresh rc blocking issues18:15
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hrybackiI'm heads down this week =/18:15
lbragstad#action lbragstad to respin patches for release blockers18:15
hrybackiyes, all of them18:15
lbragstad#action kmalloc to review18:16
lbragstad:)18:16
gagehugoI'll be around but not super available18:16
lbragstadgagehugo ack18:16
lbragstadi think that's all i have on release status18:17
lbragstaddoes anyone have anything else release-wise before we cut rc2?18:17
lbragstadcool - sounds like we can move on18:19
lbragstad#topic open discussion18:19
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lbragstaddoes anyone have anything in general?18:19
samueldmqwhen are we cutting rc2?18:20
lbragstadpending the fixes we need to land, we're shooting for the end of the week18:20
* samueldmq nods18:21
lbragstadbut we have until next week18:21
samueldmqok, good18:21
lbragstadyep - anything else?18:22
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lbragstadalright - i know everyone is busy, i appreciate the time!18:23
lbragstadthanks for coming, all18:23
lbragstad#endmeeting18:23
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clarkbhello infraers19:00
dmsimard\o19:00
AJaegerGood evening!19:00
ianwo/19:00
gemao/19:01
clarkb#startmeeting infra19:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Feb 13 19:01:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is clarkb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
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clarkb#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:01
clarkb#topic Announcements19:01
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clarkb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-rocky-ptg PTG Brainstorming19:01
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clarkbIf we end up having time towards the end of the meeting we will swing back around on ^ to make sure we aren't missing anything critical19:01
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clarkbbut please do skim it over when you have a chance19:02
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clarkbalso PTL Election season is now, about one day left to vote in elections. I think kolla, QA, and one other project have elections this time around19:02
fungimistral19:02
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fungivoter turn-out is around 40% across all 3 teams19:02
clarkbso go vote if you are eligible and haven't yet19:02
clarkb#topic Actions from last meeting19:03
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clarkb#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-02-06-19.01.txt minutes from last meeting19:03
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clarkbI have yet to clean out old specs because either there is firefighting or I've come down with the latest plague it seems like19:03
clarkb#action clarkb actually clean up specs19:04
clarkb#topic Specs Approval19:04
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clarkb(sorry for moving fast but I would like to get through normal agenda then hopefully have time to talk about ptg things as it is coming up fast)19:04
clarkbI am not aware of any specs that need review other than general cleanup19:05
clarkbhave I missed any that people want to call attention to?19:05
fungithe topic of polling platforms has come up recently in a few conversations19:05
fungii wonder if we should ressurrect the proposed spec for that as a help-wanted thing19:05
fungimight be a potential future internship opportunity much in the same way codesearch.o.o was19:06
clarkbin the email I wrote last month I suggested that maybe we didn't need that anymore but since then yes more people have asked about polls19:06
clarkbprobably a good indication there is still a use for it19:06
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clarkbwhen going over the old specs I can look at resurrecting it19:07
fungicool, just a thought i had19:07
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clarkb#topic Priority Efforts19:08
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clarkb#topic Zuul v319:08
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clarkbcorvus: ianw Looks like you want to talk about executors OOMing and the status of ze02 with the new kernel19:08
corvusgood topic!19:09
ianwlooking at http://grafana01.openstack.org/dashboard/db/zuul-status you'd have to think ze02 was the lowest memory usage?19:09
corvusit's the highest19:09
fungi"used"19:09
corvusi'm going to invert that metric :)19:09
fungiyeah, available ram is sort of backwards from what people expect to see graphed19:10
ianwahhh, well ... the only difference there is the hwe kernel19:10
ianwso is it working or not? :)19:10
corvusanyway, the biggest thing i would take from that is apparently memory management is different19:10
corvusthat's probably a good thing since i believe our oom was caused by poor memory management in the kernel19:11
fungiit doesn't seem to be running more builds than the others though19:11
corvus(ie, my hypothesis is that it wasn't recovering slab memory correctly)19:11
corvusit's run for several days without ooming, which is a good sign (other servers have oom'd since, but not all)19:12
dmsimardThere slabtop we can use to monitor that (I haven't used that in ages)19:12
fungibut yeah, i wonder if it's simply more accurately reporting actual available memory while the others simply seem like they have more available than they do19:12
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corvusif we wanted to increase our confidence it was improving things, we could try to unwind some of the executor load improvements we made recently in an attempt to intentionally stress the executors more.19:13
pabelangero/19:13
corvusor we could assume it's an improvement and roll it out to the others.  then we'll have full coverage and obviously any oom will disprove it.19:13
fungifwiw, no oom indicated in dmesg since booting a week ago19:13
clarkbI'm somewhat partial to just rolling it out considering how easy it is to revert (just build new executors or switch kernels and reboot)19:14
dmsimardIf the HWE kernel hasn't made thing _worse_, I would roll it out to the others19:14
dmsimardand what clarkb said19:14
clarkbI think increasing the load to shake things out more will likely result in more pain for our users19:14
pabelangerwe have had 2 zuul-executor OOM, taking down streaming too19:14
corvusianw: what's the cost for the afs package?19:14
clarkbespecially since hwe kernel hasn't catastrophically failed19:14
pabelangerze04 / ze09, IIRC19:14
ianwok; the only trick is i've got some custom afs .debs that need installing19:14
pabelangerianw: could we add them to a PPA?19:14
ianwwe can either puppet that in, or just do it manually19:15
fungiwe could set those up in our ppa?19:15
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pabelanger+119:15
fungiwe already have bwrap in there19:15
fungier, set up a ppa for that in our ppa space i suppose19:15
corvusi'm assuming we'll revisit this in 2-3months as well.19:16
ianwi can just stick them on tarballs like https://tarballs.openstack.org/package-afs-aarch64/19:16
corvusi sort of like the ppa aspect for .debs -- it seems more accessible and repeatable if someone else has to make an update19:17
pabelangeragree19:17
pabelangerI think there is also arm64 PPA support too?19:18
dmsimardianw: so afs is kernel-specific ? I mean, would that package work against a non-HWE kernel ? I mostly wonder about how this translates for people potentially uses our puppet modules/PPA19:18
clarkbdmsimard: yes the drawback to being an out of kernel driver19:18
pabelangerYou may also request builds for arm64, armhf, and/or ppc64el. Use the "Change details" page for the PPA to enable the architectures you want.19:18
pabelangerhttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA19:18
clarkbapis change and then you break against newer kernels19:18
ianwdmsimard: the modules are pretty kernel specific, since kernel has no abi ... it just needs a later version to work against later kernels19:18
clarkbpackage dependencies should be able to express that at least19:19
fungi#link https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ci-core/+activate-ppa Activate a New “OpenStack CI Core” team Personal Package Archive19:19
fungifor reference19:19
corvusclarkb: well, to be fair *ubuntu's* afs package is broken against *ubuntu's* kernel.19:19
clarkbianw's package can depend on the hwe kernel19:19
dmsimardok, it's been too long since I've done debian packaging but clarkb beat me to it -- it should be possible for the newer package to require the hwe kernel to make sure it doesn't get installed on non-hwe19:19
pabelangerfungi: FWIW: I don't have permission for that19:19
ianwit won't really matter if it does anyway, it's backwards compat19:19
ianwjust not fowards19:20
dmsimardianw: oh, that's what I was asking -- if it's backwards compatible it's fine then19:20
clarkbI like the idea of a ppa for this too fwiw. especially if we have to do it for arm too19:20
pabelangerfungi: looks like need to be added to https://launchpad.net/~openstack-admins/+members19:20
corvuspabelanger: done19:21
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pabelangercorvus: thankyou19:21
corvusianw: added you19:21
clarkbso maybe we continue to monitor it while we get that set up and if still looking good do the update across the executors?19:21
ianwso is this one ppa with "everything" we build?19:21
fungiyeah, i expect any infra-root person who wants to help maintain that ppa can be added to the group there19:21
ianwi just mean, will it drag in other stuff we've built19:22
pabelangerianw: yah, vhd-util and bwrap right now19:22
pabelangeroh, and python3 testing :)19:22
clarkbyou have to explicitly install those packages but if you do ya should come from the ppa19:22
funginote that they're individual ppas. i expect this would be an openafs-hwe-kernel (or similar) ppa adjacent to the bwrap and vhdutil ones19:22
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clarkb++19:22
ianwoh right, that's what i meant19:23
fungias opposed to, say, a single ppa with all those unrelated packages dumped in19:23
ianwok, maybe we should discuss in infra.  i'll take an action item to get the ppa setup with packages and then we can do a few upgrades from that19:23
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fungithanks ianw!19:23
corvusdmsimard: added you19:23
clarkb#action ianw set up afs ppa for arm and hwe kernels19:23
pabelangerianw: happy to help19:23
ianwone other quick thing was that ipv6 is broken to ze02 for undeterminted reasons19:23
clarkbianw: separately from the larger scale ipv6 breakage we had right?19:24
corvusi guess we should just replace that server?19:24
ianwrax said they didn't know what's wrong and wanted access to the hosts on either end of the issue (cacti and ze02) which i wasn't too sure about19:24
fungiwhere "broken" means some significant % packet loss, but not 100%19:24
ianwyeah, so should i try 1) a hard reboot (maybe ends up on a different node) and 2) a rebuild19:24
fungido any other instances also get ipv6 packet loss communicating with ze02?19:24
ianwi haven't noticed any.  a sure fire way is if cacti has no/spotty logs19:25
corvusi'm not comfortable sharing access to ze02.19:25
clarkbmaybe make new server then nova rebuild old one with a new image?19:25
clarkbI have a feeling nova actually reschedules you to a new hypervisor when you do that which may invalidate the testing19:26
corvusclarkb: yeah, and if that works, share that with rax.  and if it doesn't, "oh well"19:26
corvusi guess we could try to clean the server then give them access19:26
ianwi don't think they *want* to investigate, but probably would if we asked, if you know what i mean19:26
fungiwe wouldn't want to reuse it after they log in, at any rate19:26
clarkbianw: in that case maybe we just make a new server19:27
fungiand wouldn't want to leave keys on it19:27
corvuswfm19:27
ianwso basically ok to hard reboot/rebuild over the next day or so and see what happens?19:27
pabelangerwfm19:27
clarkbianw: wfm19:27
fungisounds good19:27
clarkbmaybe do that before we commit hard to the hwe kernel. It is possible that breaks ipv6 somehow19:27
clarkbhowever I think the server had similar problems before we updated the kernel19:27
ianwtrue also, but the access (from cacti) has been bad for ages19:28
fungiworth noting we still have cacti01 in dns19:28
pabelangerfungi: oh, it is possible I didn't remove it19:28
clarkbThe other zuul item on the agenda is handling zk disconnects. Which I think should be fixed at this point, but wanted to double check on that before removing it from the agenda.19:29
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pabelangerdo we want to consider migrating to new zookeeper at PTG?19:30
pabelangerzk01 / zk02 / zk0319:30
pabelangerfrom nodepool.o.o19:30
clarkbpabelanger: probably not a bad time to do it considering load will likely be low during ptg19:30
fungihow disruptive do we anticipate that being?19:30
pabelangerI believe we need to stop / start everything to pick up new configuration19:30
fungiit requires a full outage for nodepool because we can't expand/contract zk clusters i guess?19:31
clarkbfungi: yes19:31
pabelangeryes, and zuul too19:31
clarkbat least my reading of docs is that you need a very new version of zk to do expansion safely19:31
fungioh, i suppose zuul does need to know to connect to the new cluster as well yes ;)19:31
dmsimardHave we ever tested connecting to a cluster in the first place ?19:32
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clarkbprocess would be something like stop all services including zk, copy zk data files to 3 new servers. Start 3 new servers. Check quorum and data is present, start nodepool and zuul19:32
pabelangerdmsimard: not yet, but we likely should19:32
dmsimardI'm admittedly not knowledgeable about Zookeeper but maybe there's a few gotchas around connecting to a cluster19:32
pabelangerwould be good to confirm replication is working correctly19:32
dmsimardFor example, some client bindings require listing all the nodes in the configuration and the client decides where to go, others it's handled server side, etc.19:33
clarkbya its worth testing. We even have a cluster you can use :)19:33
dmsimardpabelanger: not just replication but actual usage/connection19:33
tobiashdmsimard, pabelanger: I connect to a cluster since day one ;)19:33
pabelangeroh19:33
pabelanger:)19:33
clarkbtobiash wins. Can double check our config for us :P19:33
dmsimardtobiash: well isn't that awesome19:33
dmsimarda wild tobiash has appeared :D19:33
tobiashdidn't notice any problems related to this so far ;)19:34
clarkbalright anything else related to zuul?19:34
pabelangerokay, so we still need to figure out how to move data between servers, but i can maybe look into that and start an etherpad19:34
clarkbpabelanger: its just file copies aiui19:34
pabelangerokay19:34
clarkbpabelanger: so stop zk everywhere, copy the files out, start zk19:34
clarkbwe may even be able to test it on the new cluster by just copying what is on disk at any point in time of existing server19:35
clarkb(basically don't stop the source side)19:35
pabelangerclarkb: yah, that's what I'm thinking for first test19:35
clarkb#topic General Topics19:36
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clarkbianw: gema aarch64 udpate time?19:36
ianwi got what would be testing-nodes building a booting19:36
pabelangernice19:37
ianwit's a bit janky but gets there -> https://review.openstack.org/54259119:37
gemaianw: the hw_firmware_type is not needed anymore, the patch was not fully applied everywhere, should be redundant19:38
ianwactually it's up if you have access @ root@211.148.24.19719:38
gemaianw: but we can clean that up when we upgrade the clouds to queens19:38
ianwcool.  so on my todo list is figuring out how to get the hwe kernel installed by default during the build ... it seems to work better, and just finishing off the efi stack19:38
ianwthe dib gate has been broken so took me on a journey of fixing jobs last few days19:39
gemaianw: if HWE kernel works better on arm64 I can talk to the ubuntu folks to make it default on arm cloud images19:39
clarkbianw: worst case you should be able to just have a package install for it right?19:39
gemaianw: we have a conversation pending for PTG, you can join if you'd like19:39
clarkbsmall element that checks arch and installs hwe if arm19:39
ianwyep, there's always a way :)19:40
gemaianw: this is awesome work, thank you19:40
pabelangerinfra-needs-element :D19:40
ianwif we get this ppa going, i was also going to update puppet to make sure we can build the mirror automatically19:41
fungimuch appreciated19:41
ianwand we should probably mirror ports.ubuntu19:41
pabelangeryah, that would be awesome19:41
fungiis that where ubuntu sticks non-x86 architecture builds?19:41
ianwyep, so we'd want to prune that to arm6419:42
* fungi is too used to debian just putting all architectures in one place19:42
ianwso i think it's all moving forward ... if anyone wants to review the dib stack at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/539731/ feel free :)19:43
gemaclarkb: from our side we are moving hw to a new lab in london next week and after that we'll bring up a new cloud, with some resources for infra also19:44
corvusis this a second cloud or a replacement?19:44
gemaa second cloud19:45
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clarkbianw: gema sounds like good progress, exciting!19:45
gemawe have another one in the US that needs updating and will also be added in due time19:45
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fungimost awesome19:45
gemacorvus: the plan is to have the three clouds running queens during the coming months19:45
gemaand have resources for infra on the three of them19:45
corvusgroovy!19:45
pabelangerYay19:46
* clarkb is now going to try and quickly get through a couple of things leaving us ~10 minutes to talk PTG19:46
gemaand our members are super excited and talking about contributing more hw19:46
gemaclarkb: sorry, go for it :D19:46
clarkbI've switched jjb's core review group in Gerrit to be self managed as they are already operating mostly independently. I do not think this is at odds with them remaining as an infra project19:47
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clarkbif anyone has concerns about this let me know but reality is they've been operating independently for some time19:47
clarkbI did speak with the release team last week about project renames and the date I got back was March 1619:47
clarkbcycle trailing releases should just be about done then. we will want to dobuel check with release team before taking gerrit down though19:47
fungiyeah, in my tenure as ptl i basically just acted on whatever recommendations their core team had for adding new core members19:48
fungi(jjb that is)19:48
pabelangerI don't believe I'll be around that week to help19:48
clarkbwe can sort out process for renames after hte PTG I expect19:48
fungii'll be available19:48
clarkbpabelanger: thats ok, I think several of us will be around we should have enough people to do it19:48
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clarkbAlright PTG planning19:49
fungithat is the night before a major drinking holiday, but shouldn't pose any problems19:49
clarkbfungi: ya its day after you have to wrry about19:49
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fungi;)19:49
clarkbLooks like we have a good collection of stuff for wed-fri19:49
clarkbdo we want to try and schedule that loosely say put all the Zuul stuff on wednesday/thursday and the rest of it on friday? Or do it more unconference style and let people work through what they are interested in as they are able?19:50
clarkbI'm not sure if one of the other helps or hurts people's ability to attend based on travel or other scheduling demands19:51
corvusi think attempting scheduling would be helpful19:51
gemafor the arm64 bit it'd help if we had a slot, so I know when we'll be discussing it. We will be splitting time between kolla and infra19:51
dmsimardI'll stay in the cold land of Montreal to help regular infra-root things along during North American timezones :)19:51
clarkbok thats two votes for scheduling. I'll work up a proposed schedule then. Probably put it in the etherpad then send mail to the infra list letting people know they should look it over19:52
pabelangerwfm19:52
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gemawfm19:52
clarkbit probably won't be super specific and instead be rough like wednesday morning vs friday after noon19:52
fungiyeah, there are a few non-infra discussions i need to split my time between too, so knowing when would be convenient helps me19:53
corvuswe still have an ethercalc, right?19:53
clarkbcorvus: oh good point I should use that19:53
fungiindeed we do!19:53
fungithere's no ptg-wide ethercalc integrated with ptgbot any longer, but doesn't preclude us from having our own spreadsheet for this19:53
clarkbthinking about it that might be a good way to do "appointments" with the help days too19:54
clarkbjust block out each hour of the day monday/tuesday and let projects sign up19:54
pabelangergreat idea19:54
corvus++19:54
clarkbok I will work on getting that set up19:55
clarkband the last thing is do we want to try and do a team dinner (I think we should I've just been sick and otherwise distracted by family obligations haven't had much time to look into it)19:55
clarkbworst case I imagine we can roll into a pub and sit at a couple tables19:55
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clarkbbut maybe a quick poll of what night works for people would be good too19:56
corvusi like eating with people19:56
corvusalso drinking19:56
clarkbpabelanger: ^ were you maybe still interested in that?19:56
pabelangersure, I can look into it more19:56
pabelangerget up etherpad for people to vote on a datetime19:57
clarkb#topic open discussion19:57
fungidublin has a preponderance of venues where a large group can just wander in and get served. we may have to spread out across multiple tables, but i doubt we'll have trouble finding somewhere19:57
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clarkbfew minutes for anything else that we've missed19:57
clarkbfungi: good to know thanks19:57
AJaegerOne request: I have two stacks up that will remove together /usr/local/jenkins from our nodes, please review and comment on naming/location. https://review.openstack.org/541868 and https://review.openstack.org/543139/19:57
pabelangerhttps://review.openstack.org/542422/ is something nodepool related to help better manage our min-ready nodes. If people are maybe interested in reviewing19:58
corvusAJaeger: why don't we use the ansible script module ?19:58
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AJaegercorvus: where exactly? Happy to make changes...19:59
corvuspabelanger: min-ready: 0 is now the default, but we may need launcher restarts to pick that up19:59
pabelangercorvus: k, will update20:00
AJaegercorvus: let's continue in #openstack-infra20:00
corvusAJaeger: well, it's more of a question of approach -- rather than have jobs which expect scripts to already exist on a node, the ansible 'script' module copies and runs the scripts20:00
clarkbya discussion will have to move to -infra. We are out of time! thank you everyone.20:01
fungithanks!20:01
clarkb#endmeeting20:01
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