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| hongbin | #start-meeting zun | 03:00 |
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| hongbin | #startmeeting zun | 03:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 03:00:28 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is hongbin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 03:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'zun' | 03:00 |
| hongbin | #topic roll call | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: zun)" | 03:00 | |
| kevinz | o/ | 03:00 |
| kiennt26_ | o/ hi | 03:00 |
| hongbin | hi kevinz kiennt26 , thanks for joining | 03:01 |
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| hongbin | as usual, we could have a short meeting today | 03:01 |
| hongbin | first, i would like to mention that this week is the deadline for client library release | 03:02 |
| hongbin | we are going to release python-zunclient this week, after this patch is merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533499/ | 03:02 |
| hongbin | the zun server will be released after | 03:03 |
| kevinz | OK | 03:03 |
| hongbin | possible in one week or two | 03:03 |
| hongbin | this will be the first 1.x release for zun, good jobs everyone | 03:03 |
| hongbin | any question about the release, please let me know | 03:03 |
| hongbin | ok, i finish my part | 03:04 |
| hongbin | kevinz: any update from your side? | 03:04 |
| kevinz | Hi | 03:04 |
| kevinz | Last week I've pushed first patch to gophercloud for capsule get. | 03:04 |
| kevinz | https://github.com/gophercloud/gophercloud/pull/725 | 03:04 |
| hongbin | awesome | 03:05 |
| hongbin | it looks there is a reviewer giving a few feedback | 03:06 |
| kevinz | Also I find that I need to add two fields (addresses and volume_info)to capsule. So I will modify zun server side first | 03:06 |
| kevinz | Yes, and then push to gophercloud | 03:06 |
| hongbin | ok | 03:06 |
| hongbin | i saw there is a patch for volume_info | 03:06 |
| hongbin | i expect there will be another patch for addresses? | 03:06 |
| hongbin | or there is already one? | 03:07 |
| kevinz | volume_info and addresses already one in data model, I will add another patch to make it support on capsule create process | 03:08 |
| kevinz | I'll push today for review | 03:08 |
| hongbin | cool | 03:08 |
| kevinz | Then I can move on at gophercloud | 03:08 |
| hongbin | sound great | 03:09 |
| kevinz | That's all from my side | 03:09 |
| hongbin | thanks kevinz | 03:09 |
| kevinz | yw | 03:09 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: hi kien, you have anything to share with the team? | 03:10 |
| kiennt26_ | This week, I couldn't spend much time for Zun so nothing new from me :( | 03:10 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: i see, not a problem at all | 03:10 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: the meeting is going both ways, so if you have anything we can help, just bring it up | 03:11 |
| hongbin | if no, then let's end the meeting shortly | 03:12 |
| kiennt26_ | hongbin: I didn't have one :) I am going to review your zunclient patch | 03:12 |
| hongbin | kiennt26: cool, thanks kiennt26 | 03:12 |
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| hongbin | ok, all, thanks for joining the meeting today, see you next time | 03:12 |
| hongbin | #endmeeting | 03:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 03:12:45 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-01-23-03.00.html | 03:12 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-01-23-03.00.txt | 03:12 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/zun/2018/zun.2018-01-23-03.00.log.html | 03:12 |
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| samP | hi all for masakari | 04:00 |
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| samP | #startmeeting masakari | 04:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 04:00:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:00 |
| sagara | hi | 04:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'masakari' | 04:00 |
| tpatil | Hi | 04:00 |
| rkmrHonjo | hi | 04:00 |
| samP | hi all | 04:01 |
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| samP | lets start | 04:01 |
| samP | #topic Critical Bugs | 04:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Bugs (Meeting topic: masakari)" | 04:01 | |
| samP | Any bugs to discuss? | 04:01 |
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| samP | or patches? | 04:02 |
| tpatil | change service type from ha to instance-ha | 04:02 |
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| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:fix_service_type+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 04:02 |
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| tpatil | Refer to masakari related patches | 04:02 |
| tpatil | Please review above patches | 04:02 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: OK, thank you for creating patches. | 04:03 |
| samP | tpatil: Dinesh_Bhor* thank you for fix | 04:03 |
| samP | should we merge Monty's patch first? | 04:04 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534878/ | 04:04 |
| tpatil | I think so | 04:04 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Did you confirm Monty's patch is working correctly with newer version of openstacksdk? | 04:05 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I'm confirming Monty's patch with current version of openstack sdk now. | 04:06 |
| samP | sorry, wrong link above | 04:06 |
| tpatil | Does the current version contains resource2/proxy2 migration changes? | 04:06 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534883/ | 04:07 |
| rkmrHonjo | But, in my understanding, the next version openstacksdk that will be removed proxy2/resource2 is not released yet. | 04:07 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Ah, please wait. | 04:07 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: If current master has proxy2/resource2 removed, then you should check it with current master. not with released ones. | 04:08 |
| tpatil | Maybe need to use 0.10.0 version of openstacksdk | 04:08 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: OK. I check it. | 04:09 |
| rkmrHonjo | And, I will send the result of it to ML. | 04:10 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thank you. | 04:10 |
| tpatil | current one used is 0.9.19, https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/upper-constraints.txt#L412 | 04:10 |
| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: Thanks. | 04:11 |
| tpatil | rkmrHonjo: Once you have confirm it's working correctly with 0.10.0, let's merge Monty's patch first | 04:11 |
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| rkmrHonjo | tpatil: I got it. | 04:12 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: please comment your result to gerrit | 04:12 |
| rkmrHonjo | ok. | 04:12 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks | 04:12 |
| samP | any toher bugs or patches to discuss? | 04:13 |
| rkmrHonjo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/516577/ Fix masakari query remote node state | 04:13 |
| samP | s/toher/other | 04:13 |
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| rkmrHonjo | Hieu(author of this patch) needs reviews. I'm reviewing this patch, and please review it if you can. | 04:13 |
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| samP | rkmrHonjo: I will. but this take some time. Because, this patch need to verify. | 04:15 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: I will do this | 04:16 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: ok, thanks. | 04:16 |
| tpatil | Another patch needs review | 04:17 |
| tpatil | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/528647/ | 04:17 |
| tpatil | this is a initial cookie cutter patch for masakari-dashboard | 04:17 |
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| samP | tpatil: done | 04:18 |
| tpatil | ok, thank you | 04:18 |
| samP | ls | 04:19 |
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| samP | sorry | 04:19 |
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| samP | any other bugs or patches? | 04:19 |
| samP | if not let's move to discussion. if any please bring them up any time. | 04:20 |
| samP | #topic Discussion Points | 04:20 |
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| samP | In ML, Waines Greg sends some questions about Masakari CLI | 04:21 |
| samP | Initially Dinesh_Bhor was answering those questions. (thank you for that) | 04:22 |
| samP | Will Dinesh_Bhor able support Greg for new questions? | 04:23 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: I still need to reproduce his other problem which he has requested | 04:23 |
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| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: OK, thanks. | 04:24 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: Yes, will do. | 04:24 |
| samP | please let me know if you need any help on this. | 04:24 |
| rkmrHonjo | Was Dinesh's mail sent to dev-ML? I didn't receive it. | 04:24 |
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| samP | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126446.html | 04:26 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | rkmrHonjo: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-December/125366.html | 04:26 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | He has asked his configuring masakari problem in private mail thread as well. | 04:27 |
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| rkmrHonjo | samP: Thanks. | 04:28 |
| samP | Dinesh_Bhor: rkmrHonjo: Thank you for supporting Greg | 04:29 |
| samP | And, if it is difficult for you to handle private mails, please send them to ML. | 04:30 |
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| samP | OK, then, | 04:32 |
| samP | (1) Horizon Plugin | 04:32 |
| samP | Just approved the init patch for the repo | 04:33 |
| tpatil | I think it's too late to push patches for queens cycle | 04:33 |
| samP | tpatil: true. | 04:34 |
| tpatil | The initial plan was to provide support to add failover segment and host in queens cycle. I will request Niraj to submit patches if it's ready | 04:34 |
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| samP | tpatil: thanks. if those are ready, are you going to push them for Queens? | 04:36 |
| samP | or next release? | 04:36 |
| tpatil | It's better to postpone it to the next release | 04:36 |
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| samP | tpatil: OK. Then we have to consider exclude that repo from release | 04:38 |
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| tpatil | Because I don't know whether he has written unit tests for the code changes | 04:38 |
| samP | tpatil: sure, no problem. | 04:38 |
| tpatil | samP: correct, there is no point to include masakari-dashboard in the queens release | 04:38 |
| samP | if code ready, just push them and lets review. we still have little bit of time before deciding what to release | 04:39 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:40 |
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| samP | tpatil: I will take required action to exclude masakari-dashboard from Queens (if we decide so) | 04:41 |
| samP | tpatil: thanks | 04:41 |
| samP | (2) Install Guide docs | 04:41 |
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| samP | just one left. | 04:41 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534878/ | 04:42 |
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| samP | ^^ thanks to Monty docs will be published. | 04:42 |
| samP | (3) recovery method customization | 04:42 |
| samP | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522219/1 | 04:44 |
| tpatil | samP: Will be postpone to the next release | 04:44 |
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| samP | tpatil: sure | 04:44 |
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| samP | We still need to merge #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/522219 | 04:44 |
| samP | (4) Queens Work Items | 04:45 |
| samP | No update | 04:46 |
| samP | (5) Ansible support for Masakari | 04:46 |
| samP | I still struggling to publish my playbooks. I will do that asap. | 04:47 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | samP: Okay, Thank you | 04:47 |
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| tpatil | samP: Ok, Dinesh will start understanding Ansible plugin framework in the meantime | 04:47 |
| samP | I think we need to create a BP on OSA. | 04:48 |
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| tpatil | samP: Will do it in this week | 04:48 |
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| samP | We have to create that BP when we start to implement our playbooks. I will give more details on this later | 04:49 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok, Thank you | 04:49 |
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| samP | (6)Call Force down API when host-failure will be notified | 04:49 |
| rkmrHonjo | I think that we have discussed enough about it. Sorry, I didn't update wiki page. | 04:50 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: correct...sorry | 04:50 |
| samP | I think we do not have any updates for other items. | 04:50 |
| samP | #topic AOB | 04:51 |
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| samP | Any other topics? | 04:51 |
| rkmrHonjo | Additional information about Monty's patch: resource2/proxy2 will be removed by this patch and related patches. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533826/ | 04:51 |
| rkmrHonjo | And, these patchets are not merged yet. | 04:51 |
| rkmrHonjo | s/patchets/patches/ | 04:51 |
| rkmrHonjo | So I think that we could merge Monty's patch if it works with current openstack-sdk. Just in case, I test the patch with openstakc-sdk 0.9.19 and 0.10.0. | 04:51 |
| rkmrHonjo | In this file, resource2/proxy2 will be removed in openstack-sdk 1.0. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535860/2/openstack/proxy2.py | 04:52 |
| samP | rkmrHonjo: thanks for info | 04:53 |
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| samP | sorry, I was searching for this mail. | 04:57 |
| samP | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126421.html | 04:58 |
| samP | We should consider Monty's suggestion here | 04:58 |
| samP | No them left today, Let discuss this on ML | 04:59 |
| rkmrHonjo | ok. | 04:59 |
| samP | please use ML or #openstack-masakari for further discussion | 04:59 |
| tpatil | samP: Ok | 04:59 |
| samP | thank you all.. | 04:59 |
| samP | #endmeeting | 04:59 |
| rkmrHonjo | thank you | 04:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 04:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 04:59:30 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-01-23-04.00.html | 04:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-01-23-04.00.txt | 04:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/masakari/2018/masakari.2018-01-23-04.00.log.html | 04:59 |
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| litao__ | #startmeeting test | 09:23 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 09:23:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is litao__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:23 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:23 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'test' | 09:23 |
| litao__ | #action talk | 09:24 |
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| litao__ | #idea cat | 09:24 |
| litao__ | #topic dog | 09:24 |
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| litao__ | #link http://test.com | 09:24 |
| litao__ | #startvote | 09:25 |
| openstack | Unable to parse vote topic and options. | 09:25 |
| litao__ | #endmeeting | 09:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 09:25:19 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/test/2018/test.2018-01-23-09.23.html | 09:25 |
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| Qiming | #startmeeting senlin | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 13:00:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| Qiming | evening | 13:01 |
| chenyb4 | hello | 13:01 |
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| Qiming | don't know if others are joining today | 13:03 |
| Qiming | seems ruijie has been busy in his new job | 13:03 |
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| Qiming | let's get started | 13:04 |
| Qiming | this week is the q-3 release week | 13:05 |
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| Qiming | I will try cut a release tomorrow | 13:05 |
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| Qiming | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 13:05 |
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| chenyb4 | last week, erly and liyi has join | 13:06 |
| Qiming | I was trapped by my naughty girl, :p | 13:07 |
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| chenyb4 | The girl is lovely, our family also has a lovely girl. | 13:08 |
| Qiming | cool | 13:08 |
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| Qiming | we need eyes and hands on the patches | 13:09 |
| Qiming | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/senlin+status:open | 13:09 |
| Qiming | most are small patches except for this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/535894/ | 13:09 |
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| chenyb4 | yes | 13:11 |
| chenyb4 | when functional list test pass, will edit the other operation functional test | 13:12 |
| Qiming | that would be great | 13:13 |
| Qiming | we can first focus on positive tests, then negative ones | 13:13 |
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| Qiming | those are items I have in mind | 13:15 |
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| Qiming | do you have anything else for discussion, chenyb4 ? | 13:16 |
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| chenyb4 | No, my next step is to continue with the functional test. | 13:17 |
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| Qiming | thanks | 13:18 |
| Qiming | we can end this meeting early then | 13:18 |
| chenyb4 | ok | 13:18 |
| Qiming | #endmeeting | 13:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 13:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 13:18:44 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2018/senlin.2018-01-23-13.00.html | 13:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2018/senlin.2018-01-23-13.00.txt | 13:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2018/senlin.2018-01-23-13.00.log.html | 13:18 |
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| ihrachys | #startmeeting neutron_ci | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 16:01:22 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ci' | 16:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:01 |
| slaweq | hi | 16:01 |
| ihrachys | hello friends :) | 16:02 |
| ihrachys | #topic Actions from prev meeting | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from prev meeting (Meeting topic: neutron_ci)" | 16:02 | |
| ihrachys | "mlavalle to follow up with stadium projects on taking over / merge patches to switch imports to new tempest repo" | 16:02 |
| jlibosva | o/ | 16:02 |
| haleyb | o/ | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | VPNaaS is merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521342/ | 16:02 |
| mlavalle | I'm sorry, that's midonet | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | not really? | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | VPNaaS is ready to go IMO: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521341 | 16:03 |
| ihrachys | but i pushed vpnaas in | 16:03 |
| mlavalle | great :-) | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/521346/ ? | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | that's dynamic-routing | 16:04 |
| ihrachys | I think that's the last standing | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | I am talking to chandamkumar in the qa channel about it | 16:04 |
| mlavalle | chandankumar that is | 16:05 |
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| mlavalle | he is been really helpful | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | our conversations are asynch. I haven't figured out his hours | 16:05 |
| mlavalle | so we should get it in soon | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | ok. after we land that one, we should be able to clean up tempest bits from tree | 16:06 |
| ihrachys | I believe we don't have the patch proposed | 16:06 |
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| ihrachys | it may be a good moment to propose one, making it depend on dynamic-routing / vpnaas | 16:06 |
| mlavalle | I can take care of that | 16:06 |
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| ihrachys | ok cool | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to propose a patch removing last tempest bits from neutron tree | 16:07 |
| ihrachys | "jlibosva to talk to otherwiseguy about making progress for functional ovsdb issues (timeouts, retries, stream parsing failures)" | 16:08 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, your floor | 16:08 |
| jlibosva | well, I did but we haven't found anything specific | 16:08 |
| jlibosva | one of theories is that it's related to the weird data appearing in the ovsdbapp socket that's use to communication | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | right. and we haven't landed a patch that would log more that could give us leads | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | so maybe we will try to fix that first and we see. it's not clear why the try_again is happening | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | we did | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | well, we didn't land it | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | it's just on review | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | right. | 16:09 |
| jlibosva | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/525775/ | 16:09 |
| ihrachys | but is it ok that it's not in tree and hence little info is collected? | 16:10 |
| jlibosva | It seems that it's reproduced very often so I'd give it couple of rechecks | 16:10 |
| * otherwiseguy is looking at the functional ovsdb stuff still | 16:10 | |
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| ihrachys | jlibosva, you mean, we can debug / collect info without landing it, just with rechecks? | 16:11 |
| jlibosva | ihrachys: right | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:11 |
| otherwiseguy | the log message is...weird...it is labeled as coming from a test where ovsdb stuff shouldn't even be happening I think. | 16:11 |
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| otherwiseguy | (the error parsing stream message) | 16:11 |
| otherwiseguy | Like it has shown up on an ovs fw vsctl test. | 16:11 |
| ihrachys | otherwiseguy, could be eventlet not doing its job properly. the other error message you see, could it be triggered by another tester thread? | 16:12 |
| ihrachys | do they all share the same rootwrap daemon? | 16:12 |
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| otherwiseguy | ihrachys, it seems very likely to be eventlet-related anyway (just my gut feeling, though). Not sure on rw daemon. but the ovsdb native stuff doesn't use rwd. | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | ah right, sorry I mixed things again. that's ovsdb socket. | 16:13 |
| ihrachys | so the error is "RuntimeError: Port nonexistantport does not exist" | 16:14 |
| otherwiseguy | And it might be somehow related to the weird monkey patching of the ovs logging stuff too...i just don't really know yet. | 16:14 |
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| ihrachys | I think nonexistantport is a unique name, (maybe) in the tree | 16:14 |
| ihrachys | so we could check which test it belongs to, and check whether it's same tester worker or a different one, when it executed comparing to the one that fails | 16:14 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: this name is used only in this test: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/ff24fc07278797459b77434662c92667d690b0b4/neutron/tests/functional/agent/test_ovs_lib.py#L79 | 16:15 |
| ihrachys | right | 16:15 |
| otherwiseguy | The log message I'm seeing in weird places is the "Error parsing stream row/col" which doesn't have a lot of info to match up on. | 16:16 |
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| ihrachys | otherwiseguy, will you be able to match the error message source against time of retries / stream parsing issue and report in bug? | 16:18 |
| ihrachys | I don't think it will lead to something but if there is some chance... | 16:19 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachys, I will certainly try. :) | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | otherwiseguy, you said there is little to match on. you mean, the stream data not included in the exception? | 16:20 |
| otherwiseguy | Like for instance this message: 2018-01-22 06:47:14.095 [neutron.tests.functional.agent.linux.test_ovsdb_monitor.TestSimpleInterfaceMonitor.test_get_events_includes_ofport_vsctl_] 10724 WARNING ovsdbapp.backend.ovs_idl.vlog [-] tcp:127.0.0.1:6640: error parsing stream: line 0, column 4, byte 4: invalid keyword 'rors' | 16:20 |
| ihrachys | right. but can't we at this point grab more data from the socket and dump it? | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | or will it interact badly with other consumers? | 16:21 |
| otherwiseguy | If it happens to hit on that one patch that I'm testing. | 16:21 |
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| ihrachys | the connection is probably per thread so it would be ok no? | 16:21 |
| otherwiseguy | Getting the info from the stream is kind of invasive. | 16:21 |
| ihrachys | otherwiseguy, right. and that's what I was alluding to. maybe there is a merit in merging it to give it a higher chance to hit it with useful data dumped somewhere in gate. | 16:22 |
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| ihrachys | otherwiseguy, well, it's invasive but at this point it may be the time to reset / reconnect anyway since you can't trust the data inside, so it could be one of cleanup steps. | 16:22 |
| ihrachys | if we were to reconnect on the error, would it help? | 16:23 |
| otherwiseguy | If I don't come up with something in the next couple of days it may be worth it. | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | ok | 16:23 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachys, that might help. | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | #action otherwiseguy to continue digging ovsdb retry / stream parsing issue and try things | 16:23 |
| ihrachys | I put action item so that we get back to it next time | 16:23 |
| otherwiseguy | ihrachys, good plan. reminders always a good thing for me. ;) | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | next was "jlibosva to check why functional job times out globally instead of triggering a local test case timeout for TRY_AGAIN ovsdb issue" | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | that's somewhat related | 16:24 |
| jlibosva | so I just briefly looked at the code and it seems to me we don't have a per-test timeout implicitly. I need to test it though and confirm. I think you can flip this as an ongoing AI for me till the next meeting | 16:24 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, I thought ostestr applies some default | 16:25 |
| jlibosva | I thought we have a Timeout class for that that uses Timeout fixture | 16:25 |
| ihrachys | there is this OS_TEST_TIMEOUT setting that you can pass into the env | 16:26 |
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| ihrachys | but it's for openstack/oslotest based classes | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | do we use the library? | 16:27 |
| jlibosva | ok, I need to dig there. I thought we have to do it by ourselves | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | well our DietTestCase inherits from it | 16:27 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: but it looks that OS_TEST_TIMEOUT is not set in functional tests: https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/ff24fc07278797459b77434662c92667d690b0b4/tox.ini#L51 | 16:27 |
| ihrachys | though maybe it actually requires setting of the value: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslotest/tree/oslotest/base.py#n38 | 16:28 |
| slaweq | sorry, it is set in testenv:common | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/ff24fc07278797459b77434662c92667d690b0b4/tox.ini#L23 | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | right | 16:28 |
| ihrachys | and it should have been inherited | 16:28 |
| slaweq | yes, my mistake, sorry | 16:28 |
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| ihrachys | anyway, there's that thing for jlibosva to be aware of, and he will continue digging :) | 16:29 |
| jlibosva | yep | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | #action jlibosva to continue digging why functional tests loop in ovsdb retry and don't timeout | 16:29 |
| ihrachys | next was "slaweq to report a bug about l2 ext manager not catching exceptions from extensions" | 16:29 |
| jlibosva | and I confirm that if we inherit from neutron.tests.base we get the timeout | 16:29 |
| slaweq | I reported it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1743647 | 16:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1743647 in neutron "L2 extension manager don't handle drivers errors" [Low,Confirmed] | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | jlibosva, oh so we don't. ok that seems like a good lead then. | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, I tagged it as low-hanging-fruit | 16:30 |
| slaweq | ok, thx | 16:30 |
| ihrachys | "ihrachys to report bug for l2 agent restart fullstack failures and dig it" | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | eh... | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | you get the idea. I think I forgot to create a trello card for it and it slipped | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | I will fix it now :) | 16:31 |
| ihrachys | sorry for that | 16:32 |
| ihrachys | next was "mlavalle to bring up floating ip failures in dvr scenario job to l3 team" | 16:32 |
| mlavalle | we did discuss talk about it. I will let haleyb update about it | 16:33 |
| haleyb | i don't have any update, been busy with other items | 16:33 |
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| ihrachys | but at least the gist of discussion from any of you maybe? | 16:34 |
| mlavalle | well, we have had difficulty following up on that one | 16:35 |
| mlavalle | haleyb: is there anyway I can help? | 16:35 |
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| haleyb | just finding bug... getting a setup in that failing state would be best, then we could inspect rules, etc | 16:36 |
| mlavalle | ok, let's talk about it in channel | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle and haleyb to follow up on how we can move forward floating ip failures in dvr scenario | 16:37 |
| haleyb | light fire under haleyb :) | 16:37 |
| ihrachys | this issue is quite old (another example of those hard cracks is the ovsdb timeout thingy), so if you have mad ideas they may still be worth trying at this point | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | haleyb, you are on the hook too :p | 16:38 |
| ihrachys | next was "mlavalle to transit remaining legacy- jobs to new format" | 16:38 |
| mlavalle | the remaining one is legacy-tempest-dsvm-py35 | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | the qa team is reimplementing that job | 16:39 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/524153/ | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, oh so it's inherited from another repo? | 16:40 |
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| mlavalle | it comes from here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/openstack-zuul-jobs/tree/zuul.d/zuul-legacy-project-templates.yaml#n153 | 16:40 |
| ihrachys | oh ok. then I guess we can leave it to qa | 16:41 |
| mlavalle | that's why I didn't see it when moving / renaming the other ones | 16:41 |
| ihrachys | we'll just need to make sure that once they replace the job we change grafana | 16:41 |
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| ihrachys | there are also 'periodic' jobs that are legacy. not sure whether it's not the same case. | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | but those seem specific to our project | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | like legacy-periodic-neutron-py35-with-neutron-lib-master | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | or legacy-periodic-tempest-dsvm-neutron-with-ryu-master | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | I didn't have time to look at those | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | I can follow up next | 16:42 |
| ihrachys | I guess they are still defined in infra repos. are we expected to move those too? that would be a good q to answer. | 16:42 |
| mlavalle | yes, I can start from there | 16:43 |
| mlavalle | asking that question | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | #action mlavalle to check with infra what's the plan for periodics / maybe migrate jobs | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | great | 16:43 |
| mlavalle | at least we keep unraveling the thread :-) | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | those are all AIs we had and we have whopping 17mins for the rest | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | #topic Grafana | 16:43 |
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| ihrachys | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 16:43 |
| ihrachys | ok one thing I notice is fullstack is back to 100% | 16:44 |
| ihrachys | also, periodic -pg- (postgres) job is busted for several days so it's probably not a sporadic failure | 16:45 |
| ihrachys | scenarios are 40% for dvr and 20% for linuxbridge | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | like the previous week | 16:46 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: this fullstack failure rate is kind of demotivating for me :( | 16:46 |
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| ihrachys | ovsfw job is at 80% though afaiu it was always bad | 16:46 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, I feel you. but maybe we can spot something new there in a latest run. we will check in a sec. | 16:47 |
| jlibosva | oh I thought it's 100%, I allocated some time as there is always a volume test failing so I planned to look at it | 16:47 |
| slaweq | ihrachys: sure, I just saying | 16:47 |
| ihrachys | other things don't look new / revealing, so let's move on | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | #topic Fullstack | 16:48 |
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| haleyb | i added a new dashboard for the neutron-tempest-plugin repo, http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-tempest-plugin-failure-rate | 16:48 |
| haleyb | doh | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | ah right, thanks haleyb | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | I need to get practiced to remember about it | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | so about the fullstack failure rate | 16:48 |
| ihrachys | http://logs.openstack.org/80/536380/2/check/neutron-fullstack/138850e/logs/testr_results.html.gz | 16:49 |
| slaweq | yes, I found same issue in many tests during last few days | 16:50 |
| slaweq | I can try to check it this week | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | looks like l3agent failed to start? http://logs.openstack.org/80/536380/2/check/neutron-fullstack/138850e/logs/dsvm-fullstack-logs/TestLegacyL3Agent.test_mtu_update.txt.gz#_2018-01-23_10_46_42_690 | 16:51 |
| ihrachys | there is no l3agent log in service log dir | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | slaweq, ok please do. maybe l3_agent.py is busted, like import broken or smth | 16:52 |
| ihrachys | so it doesn't get to logging anything | 16:52 |
| slaweq | yes, I will check it ASAP | 16:53 |
| slaweq | (probably tomorrow) | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | thanks | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | #action slaweq to check why fullstack job is busted / l3agent fails to start | 16:53 |
| slaweq | recently I'm working only on issues with fullstack so I have some "experience" :D | 16:53 |
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| ihrachys | you are in the flow, as they say. on bug fixing spree. :) | 16:53 |
| ihrachys | your work is not for naught :) | 16:54 |
| slaweq | thx :) | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | speaking of fullstack, slaweq also has this patch that should help some failures: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536367/ | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | I haven't gotten to it myself | 16:54 |
| ihrachys | but since jlibosva and haleyb both voted +2 maybe they can push it in | 16:55 |
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| haleyb | pushed | 16:55 |
| slaweq | haleyb: thx | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | thanks | 16:55 |
| ihrachys | another related thing that slaweq noticed during fullstack spree is this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536342/ | 16:56 |
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| ihrachys | if nothing else, it's a performance optimization for how agents fetch SGs | 16:56 |
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| ihrachys | is there anything else for fullstack? | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | I mean, that would require reviews | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 16:57 |
| slaweq | I don't have anything else :) | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | in my pile | 16:57 |
| ihrachys | mlavalle, shoot | 16:57 |
| mlavalle | I meant slawek's patch i in my pile | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | oh ok :)( | 16:58 |
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| slaweq | mlavalle: thx | 16:58 |
| ihrachys | ok I guess we don't have much time to discuss other stuff so we will wrap up. next time we will focus on scenarios first. | 16:58 |
| mlavalle | ok | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | thanks everyone and especially slaweq on doing Sisyphus work. that stone must roll over the hill one day. | 16:59 |
| ihrachys | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 16:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 16:59:42 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-01-23-16.01.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-01-23-16.01.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ci/2018/neutron_ci.2018-01-23-16.01.log.html | 16:59 |
| slaweq | thx, bye | 16:59 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 16:59 |
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| jlibosva | bye | 17:00 |
| mlavalle | slaweq: so, is your Facebook profile picture also your face when you are fixing fullstack code? | 17:00 |
| slaweq | currently yes :D | 17:00 |
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| slaweq | but it will be fine for sure :) | 17:01 |
| mlavalle | LOL | 17:01 |
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| lbragstad | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 18:00:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | ping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, kmalloc, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar, jdennis, ruan_he | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| cmurphy | o/ | 18:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | agenda ^ | 18:00 |
| rderose | o/ | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | let's do this! | 18:00 |
| hrybacki | good energy :) | 18:00 |
| lbragstad | shakin' things up | 18:00 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 18:01 |
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| spilla_ | o/ | 18:01 |
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| lbragstad | we'll give folks another minute to join | 18:02 |
| jessegler | o/ | 18:02 |
| knikolla | o/ (food took too long to arrive, will be monitoring the meeting from phone) | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | #topic announcements | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
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| lbragstad | let's go through the status of things | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | #topic announcement: release status | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcement: release status (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
| lbragstad | we're getting down to the wirte | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | wire* | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | feature freeze and client freeze are both friday | 18:03 |
| lbragstad | with that, we did make a bunch of progress on reviews last week | 18:04 |
| cmurphy | i think client freeze is thursday | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | as noted in cmurphy's weekly recap | 18:04 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: oh - good call | 18:04 |
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| lbragstad | on that note - we should also be planning to have things *gating* on thursday if we want to land them this releas | 18:04 |
| lbragstad | release* | 18:04 |
| hrybacki | Do we need to request any FFEs? | 18:05 |
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| lbragstad | given the RC period is only two weeks, i'm not sure we'll have much time | 18:05 |
| * hrybacki nods | 18:06 | |
| cmurphy | requirements freeze is also friday http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126475.html | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | but i expect we can assess on wednesday evening | 18:06 |
| kmalloc | o/ i am unlurking now | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | we have three major efforts left | 18:06 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: has been whipping up the application credential stuff | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | which looks like it's waiting on a bug gix | 18:07 |
| lbragstad | fix* | 18:07 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: anything you want to share there? | 18:07 |
| cmurphy | the ansible folks brought up https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1744948 with me so i'd like to get that fixed before merging anything else | 18:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1744948 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "allow_application_credential_creation contraint issue with suse + mariadb 10.2" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Colleen Murphy (krinkle) | 18:08 |
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| lbragstad | ack - i'll be reviewing that right after this meeting | 18:08 |
| cmurphy | waiting for zuul results on that patch and they are testing it for me | 18:08 |
| cmurphy | but everything else is looking good | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | awesome | 18:09 |
| samueldmq | nice | 18:09 |
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| lbragstad | the unified limits implementation is looking good, but we're working on pulling out a FK constraint that merged with the migration | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | so that's gating on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536644/ | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | dstanek is also looking into https://review.openstack.org/#/c/126030/25 | 18:10 |
| lbragstad | to make sure we captured all context of the problem before moving foward | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | forward* | 18:11 |
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| lbragstad | the system scope stuff is just pending reviews | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | there is a weird issue with tempest i started digging into with andreaf last night | 18:11 |
| lbragstad | and that is happening when we add a system admin role to the admin user in bootstrap... | 18:12 |
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| lbragstad | not sure what the story is there yet, but that's one of the last patches in the series | 18:12 |
| lbragstad | we're going to have a fast transition to rc period | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | i still need to parse all keystone bugs for any show stoppers so that we can focus on those during that two week period | 18:13 |
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| lbragstad | if you interested in helping build out that list, let me know.. i want to try and have that done by monday at the latest so we have a list of things to shoot for for RC | 18:14 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: I can probably help you there | 18:14 |
| * cmurphy too | 18:14 | |
| gagehugo | bug stomp? | 18:14 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: cmurphy that'd be a massive help, i appreciate it | 18:14 |
| samueldmq | Whooza | 18:14 |
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| lbragstad | feel free to tag things as queens-rc if it is something we need to fix before queens goes out the door | 18:15 |
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| lbragstad | #topic announcements: priority reviews | 18:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements: priority reviews (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:15 | |
| lbragstad | for your reviewing convenience - we now have a review board dedicated to queens feature work we need to land this week | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | #link https://goo.gl/NWdAH7 | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | if there is a review missing from there, let me know and i'll get it added (or removed) | 18:16 |
| lbragstad | any questions on release related activity? | 18:17 |
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| samueldmq | Wow that list looks long for me | 18:18 |
| lbragstad | yeah - 46 keystone patches and 4 client patches | 18:18 |
| samueldmq | Priorities? | 18:18 |
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| lbragstad | d.) everything | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | :) | 18:19 |
| hrybacki | gates are gonna be in pain this week | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | the good thing is that most of them are in good shape | 18:19 |
| samueldmq | Cool, simple | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | yes - that too | 18:19 |
| samueldmq | I will try to do a few reviews this week | 18:19 |
| lbragstad | i've been trying to baby sit them in off hours so we can maximize our reviews, but nothing beats being as early as possible | 18:20 |
| samueldmq | As much as I can on that list | 18:20 |
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| samueldmq | hrybacki: that wont help :( | 18:20 |
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| hrybacki | samueldmq: I know -- but it happens every cycle :| | 18:20 |
| hrybacki | good strategy lbragstad | 18:20 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: agreed, lets try to kill a few of then today and Tomorrow still | 18:21 |
| hrybacki | office hours == review session? | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | i'm good with that | 18:21 |
| lbragstad | if people want to break up and review things in batches we can do that too | 18:21 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: thats a good strategy | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | 2 - 3 people per feature? | 18:22 |
| hrybacki | +1 | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | we can figure out that in office hours, too | 18:22 |
| samueldmq | Make sure to distribute the cores wsll in the groups | 18:22 |
| knikolla | +1 | 18:22 |
| lbragstad | alright - i'm going to hand it off to hrybacki | 18:23 |
| lbragstad | #topic RH1 (CI) is coming down | 18:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RH1 (CI) is coming down (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:23 | |
| hrybacki | ack | 18:23 |
| gagehugo | ++ | 18:23 |
| hrybacki | general awareness, the RH1 cloud (running TripleO CI OVB jobs) is coming down | 18:23 |
| hrybacki | ahead of schedule actually | 18:23 |
| hrybacki | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1744763 | 18:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1744763 in tripleo "Ci: moving OVB jobs to RDO third party CI" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Sagi (Sergey) Shnaidman (sshnaidm) | 18:24 |
| samueldmq | :( | 18:24 |
| hrybacki | just general awareness -- the TripleO CI team is hammering away on this | 18:24 |
| samueldmq | How representative is that in our current resource pool? | 18:24 |
| hrybacki | samueldmq: that's hard to say. I don't think it will affect us too much. I don't think we have a billion gate jobs running OVB rn | 18:25 |
| samueldmq | So that we could have an Idea of How much impact in current Ci capacity | 18:25 |
| hrybacki | I'm honestly not sure -- been out of the upstream CI game for a cycle and things have changed a bit | 18:25 |
| cmurphy | what is an ovb job? | 18:26 |
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| hrybacki | OpenStack Virtual Baremetal | 18:26 |
| hrybacki | basically OpenStack on TripleO | 18:26 |
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| hrybacki | or quintupleo | 18:26 |
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| hrybacki | RH is pushing resources into a new cloud, RDO Cloud, and TripleO CI is expanding CI there | 18:27 |
| cmurphy | is this something that affects keystone or is this related to infra resources? | 18:27 |
| hrybacki | more related to infra resources -- I don't think it will hurt this team but I'm not 100% on that either | 18:27 |
| * hrybacki tries to find list of repos affected | 18:28 | |
| hrybacki | you can see the list in the 'same topic' section of this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536507/2 | 18:30 |
| hrybacki | so mostly TripleO and THT related (didn't mean to eat up this much time in the mtg) | 18:31 |
| hrybacki | that's all I have on that lbragstad | 18:31 |
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| lbragstad | no worries - thanks for the heads up | 18:31 |
| lbragstad | #topic core reviewers | 18:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "core reviewers (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:32 | |
| lbragstad | for those who don't know yet, gagehugo became core last week :) | 18:32 |
| hrybacki | congrats gagehugo :) | 18:32 |
| gagehugo | :) | 18:32 |
| lbragstad | i'm not sure who put this topic on the agenda thoguh | 18:32 |
| gagehugo | wasn't me | 18:33 |
| hrybacki | me -- just curious if we need to plan a way to gain more cores | 18:33 |
| samueldmq | hehe | 18:33 |
| samueldmq | Congrats gagehugo | 18:33 |
| hrybacki | I know we talked about it at the last PTG -- and we've lost some since | 18:33 |
| samueldmq | Well deserved | 18:33 |
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| gagehugo | samueldmq :) thanks | 18:33 |
| lbragstad | i think a plan would be good - but i'm not sure how to approach building one | 18:34 |
| cmurphy | i don't think we're ever going to have enough cores | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | since it usually depends on the reviewer | 18:34 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: ++ | 18:34 |
| knikolla | make your first patch, get a free beer in dublin | 18:35 |
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| hrybacki | flight included? XD | 18:35 |
| hrybacki | I guess the question is -- are nearing the point of /needing/ more core reviewers? | 18:35 |
| lbragstad | i think review pressure has gone up - but i'm curious to hear what others think | 18:36 |
| knikolla | we'll have a better answer after the progress today during office hours i think | 18:36 |
| hrybacki | fair point knikolla | 18:36 |
| hrybacki | okay, well let's put a pin in this for now | 18:37 |
| lbragstad | ok | 18:37 |
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| lbragstad | #topic open discussion | 18:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:37 | |
| gagehugo | I feel like the pressure isn't just on keystone, a lot of projects seem to be hurting for reviewers | 18:38 |
| cmurphy | yeah it's openstack-wide | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | agreed | 18:38 |
| gagehugo | :( | 18:38 |
| lbragstad | the volume of work or need for it hasn't changed, though | 18:39 |
| lbragstad | at least in my opinion | 18:39 |
| lbragstad | or based on the people i talk to | 18:39 |
| knikolla | i think it all comes down to how easy it is to have part time contributors | 18:40 |
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| knikolla | it's harder today to get paid to work a large chunk of your time upstream. | 18:40 |
| hrybacki | ^^ +2 | 18:40 |
| gagehugo | knikolla ++ | 18:40 |
| lbragstad | yeah - that's going to be a big part of how we manage things going forward | 18:41 |
| lbragstad | that was a big topic in sydney during the forum | 18:42 |
| lbragstad | before we get into office hours, do we want to discuss breaking into review teams here? | 18:44 |
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| hrybacki | +1 | 18:44 |
| knikolla | ++ | 18:45 |
| hrybacki | fwiw I have the next 105 minutes free | 18:45 |
| lbragstad | awesome | 18:45 |
| lbragstad | i already planned on reviewing the application credential stuff, so we can get that unblocked | 18:45 |
| lbragstad | and go through the entire stack again | 18:46 |
| gagehugo | last week the app cred stuff worked for me | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | if someone wants to join me, i'd appreciate the extra set of eyes | 18:46 |
| hrybacki | I haven't had a chance to look at that stuff, I'd be happy to join | 18:46 |
| lbragstad | cool | 18:46 |
| knikolla | i've already done a fair chunk of system scope reviewing, so i'll keep on that. | 18:47 |
| lbragstad | knikolla: perfect | 18:47 |
| cmurphy | unified limits def needs more eyes | 18:47 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:47 |
| gagehugo | I can look at whatever, I should be available all afternoon | 18:47 |
| lbragstad | as soon as i'm done with the app creds stuff, i'll transition to unified limts | 18:47 |
| lbragstad | limits* | 18:47 |
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| lbragstad | (getting the app cred stuff gating would be good since it's close) | 18:48 |
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| lbragstad | gagehugo: do you want to pick through the unified limits stuff first? | 18:48 |
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| gagehugo | lbragstad yeah I can take a look at that | 18:48 |
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| lbragstad | gagehugo: thanks | 18:49 |
| lbragstad | there is all the scope_types stuff, too (which cmurphy has already reviewed most of) | 18:49 |
| gagehugo | I think I looked at them last week, will take another look | 18:49 |
| lbragstad | (probably the lowest priority of the efforts though) | 18:49 |
| gagehugo | ok | 18:49 |
| knikolla | that should be easy reviews for the most part. and will block the gate for an entire day if we approve them all. | 18:50 |
| lbragstad | we might be able to send a few through in batches | 18:50 |
| * lbragstad isn't a CI wizard though | 18:50 | |
| gagehugo | or push them through later in the day | 18:51 |
| * knikolla shrugs | 18:51 | |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: yeah - that might work, too | 18:51 |
| gagehugo | things definitely run faster at 2am :) | 18:51 |
| knikolla | good thinking. we can +2, and delay the +A for late night hours | 18:51 |
| lbragstad | so long as two other cores +2 i' | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | i'll +A at night if no one is around and the queue is clear | 18:52 |
| lbragstad | (as long as people are OK with the process there) | 18:52 |
| cmurphy | no one should be afraid to +A things, if it waits it waits but it's not going to knock over infra | 18:52 |
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| lbragstad | that works too, i'm going to be watching patches closely for the next few days anyway | 18:54 |
| knikolla | cmurphy: you're right. I just feel like those are lower priority, so causing something higher priority which might need a respin to wait might be suboptimal. but whatever works. | 18:54 |
| hrybacki | back | 18:54 |
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| lbragstad | #action lbragstad and hrybacki to review application credentials during office hours | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | #action knikolla to review system scope during office hours | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | #action gagehugo and lbragstad to review unified limits during office hours | 18:56 |
| lbragstad | anything else people want to go through for reviews? | 18:57 |
| hrybacki | that's a pretty solid start :) | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | i'm happy with that plan | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | give folks a minute to stretch their legs before getting started | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | thanks all! | 18:58 |
| lbragstad | #endmeeting | 18:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 18:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 18:58:49 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-01-23-18.00.html | 18:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-01-23-18.00.txt | 18:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2018/keystone.2018-01-23-18.00.log.html | 18:58 |
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| pabelanger | o/ | 19:01 |
| ianw | hello meeting fans | 19:01 |
| tobiash | hi | 19:01 |
| gema | o/ | 19:01 |
| ianw | #startmeeting infra | 19:01 |
| frickler | o/ | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 19:01:34 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:01 |
| ianw | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:02 |
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| ianw | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
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| ianw | #info Clarkb and fungi missing January 23rd meeting due to travel. | 19:02 |
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| ianw | thus you have me, and pabelanger ready to point out what i've messed up :) | 19:02 |
| ianw | #info OpenDev being folded into Vancouver Summit. Note this changes the dates and location for the event. | 19:03 |
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| ianw | #link http://www.opendevconf.com/ | 19:03 |
| ianw | this one is all about ci/cd, so probably of interest to most people here | 19:03 |
| ianw | #info Vancouver Summit CFP open. Submit your papers and/or volunteer to be on the programming committee. | 19:04 |
| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126192.html | 19:04 |
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| pabelanger | there is also a ML post my dmsimard about ideas for talks | 19:04 |
| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005808.html | 19:04 |
| ianw | dmsimard: ^ | 19:05 |
| dmsimard | Oh opendev is folded into summit | 19:05 |
| dmsimard | I guess it'll replace the concept of open source days which I actually asked about | 19:05 |
| pabelanger | not sure, I think it is still up in the air | 19:06 |
| corvus | o/ | 19:06 |
| pabelanger | but, just heard about the move today myself | 19:06 |
| dmsimard | https://twitter.com/OpenStack/status/955793345162432515 | 19:06 |
| dmsimard | It's weird because their answer is a bit ambiguous | 19:06 |
| dmsimard | Twitter was probably not the right medium to ask in the first place | 19:06 |
| dmsimard | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:06 |
| ianw | "The Vancouver Tracks are a bit different than usual and are open to fellow open source projects. We're encouraging @ansible and @kubernetesio talks to be submitted! Send by Feb 8!" | 19:07 |
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| ianw | a lot of the sydney talks were about 60% kubernetes anyway :) | 19:07 |
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| corvus | yeah, on the opendev call on friday they suggested that some amount of redirecting cicd talks to opendev may take place. and opendev would be 2 days that run concurrently with the summit. | 19:08 |
| corvus | so some of us may be double booked. | 19:08 |
| dmsimard | Fun | 19:08 |
| corvus | we may have to try to schedule forum sessions during the not-opendev days | 19:08 |
| ianw | sounds like WIP, but if you've got a good talk, it will find a home somewhere | 19:09 |
| corvus | i guess regardless, submit talks and they should eventually end up in the right place :) | 19:09 |
| ianw | #info Zuul has mailing lists http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005800.html | 19:09 |
| ianw | subscribe! | 19:09 |
| ianw | #info PTG topic brainstorming happening now https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-rocky-ptg | 19:09 |
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| ianw | not much more to say, all ideas welcome | 19:11 |
| * mordred waves | 19:11 | |
| ianw | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:11 |
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| ianw | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-01-16-19.01.log.txt | 19:11 |
| ianw | if we've grepped correctly ... | 19:11 |
| ianw | ACTION: corvus patchbomb project name removals from zuul.yaml | 19:12 |
| hrw | o/ | 19:12 |
| ianw | i'm not sure i saw that? | 19:13 |
| corvus | i will do that this week now that we have more ram | 19:13 |
| corvus | #action corvus patchbomb project name removals from zuul.yaml | 19:13 |
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| ianw | ACTION: clarkb to take pass through old zuul and nodepool master branch changes to at least categorize changes | 19:13 |
| AJaeger | corvus: I updated the docs projects already - and whenever I edit a zuul.yaml, remove the project stanza. So, 10+ less projects ;) | 19:13 |
| corvus | AJaeger: cool, being lazy is working out! | 19:14 |
| AJaeger | ;) | 19:14 |
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| corvus | ianw: on that front, i did abandon about 40 zuul changes with nice messages | 19:14 |
| corvus | there's still probably about 60 for folks to go through and think about more (i only did a superficial pass based on commit message subject, basically) | 19:15 |
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| ianw | ok, i think that's a constant background thing for every project | 19:15 |
| corvus | yeah, we just have a surplus at the moment because of feature branch myopia | 19:16 |
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| ianw | ok, do we want to put it back for next time to remember to talk about it again? | 19:17 |
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| pabelanger | sure | 19:18 |
| ianw | #action clarkb / corvus / everyone / to take pass through old zuul and nodepool master branch changes to at least categorize changes | 19:18 |
| ianw | ACTION: corvus send email to openstack-dev, openstack-infra, zuul-announce about feature branch merge | 19:18 |
| ianw | i think we're all good there ... | 19:18 |
| corvus | that's done | 19:18 |
| ianw | #topic Specs approval | 19:18 |
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| ianw | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005779.html Cleanup old specs. | 19:19 |
| pabelanger | I still need to look at my old specs myself | 19:19 |
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| ianw | i don't think there was any disagreement with that mail | 19:20 |
| pabelanger | I don't believe so | 19:20 |
| ianw | let's put in an action item to abandon them, so we don't forget | 19:21 |
| ianw | #action clarkb abandon specs per: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2018-January/005779.html | 19:22 |
| ianw | other than that, i didn't see anything updated past the great jenkins removal of '17 | 19:22 |
| ianw | #topic Priority Efforts | 19:23 |
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| ianw | #topic Storyboard | 19:23 |
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| ianw | mordred: anything of note? | 19:23 |
| ianw | let's loop back if so | 19:24 |
| mordred | ianw: nothing from my end | 19:24 |
| ianw | thanks :) | 19:24 |
| ianw | #topic Zuul v3 | 19:24 |
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| ianw | I think the server replacement has gone ok? | 19:25 |
| AJaeger | ianw: yes, works nicely as far as I can see | 19:26 |
| AJaeger | let's wait for corvus stress test ;) | 19:26 |
| ianw | and then the other thing is the feature branch merge | 19:27 |
| ianw | i imagine if you had changes in flight you've already moved them over | 19:27 |
| ianw | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zuulv2-outstanding-change-triage | 19:28 |
| ianw | pabelanger: ^ anything to say on that ... just go through it as people have time? | 19:28 |
| pabelanger | ianw: yah, I think when people have time. feature/zuulv3 has been merged into master already | 19:29 |
| ianw | ok, anything i'm missing? | 19:30 |
| pabelanger | nothing else from me | 19:31 |
| ianw | i saw a couple of newish waves too, not zuul has it's own meeting https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Zuul | 19:31 |
| ianw | #topic General topics | 19:32 |
| ianw | #topic Handling review spam (frickler) | 19:32 |
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| ianw | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2018-01-22.log.html#t2018-01-22T11:53:20 | 19:32 |
| ianw | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2017-12-22.log.html#t2017-12-22T09:57:39 | 19:32 |
| frickler | not sure we need a big discussion here, just wanted to make sure that folks are aware of that | 19:32 |
| corvus | thanks... after reviewing the irc logs, i think that's all good. | 19:33 |
| corvus | i'm not sure we need to suspend accounts based on activity like that, but unresponsiveness after contacting them seems like a really good reason. | 19:33 |
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| ianw | yep, do we think it was robotic? | 19:34 |
| ianw | i do seem to get random +1's as others do, but it seems quite sporadic | 19:34 |
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| frickler | no, didn't look like a bot, too irregular for that | 19:35 |
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| ianw | cool, well if you're doing odd things and we can't contact you to discuss it, i think that's pretty solid | 19:36 |
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| ianw | and i think we're all in agreement discussion is the first step | 19:36 |
| ianw | so yay us :) | 19:36 |
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| ianw | #topic aarch64 update | 19:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "aarch64 update (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:37 | |
| ianw | So linaro have very kindly offered us aarch64 resources for CI | 19:37 |
| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/536187 | 19:37 |
| ianw | mordred: ^ if you can take another pass over that (linaro credentials) | 19:38 |
| hrw | yay us! | 19:38 |
| ianw | on the infra side, I'm trying to get a Xenial image up so we can see just how far off our deployment stuff is from working | 19:38 |
| ianw | i got some notes back today about some more flags to try booting the image, and will take that up today | 19:39 |
| pabelanger | cool | 19:39 |
| ianw | i'll see how it all goes and send an email or reviews or whatever | 19:39 |
| mordred | ianw: sure nuff! | 19:39 |
| gema | ianw: +1, let us know | 19:39 |
| ianw | so, in theory, we should be able to bring up a nodepool builder and mirror in our control plane account | 19:40 |
| hrw | ianw: Xinliang can be helpful as due to living in China he is closer to your timezone | 19:40 |
| ianw | the other side is ... what is the nodepool builder going to build | 19:41 |
| pabelanger | are we planning on running all jobs on the cloud or subset of them? | 19:41 |
| gema | pabelanger: kolla subset to start with | 19:41 |
| hrw | ianw: kolla guys want to build images afaik | 19:41 |
| gema | pabelanger: they've offered to be first | 19:42 |
| ianw | my thought is that it would be a separate node type, and we'd start like that | 19:42 |
| gema | hrw: and run tests | 19:43 |
| ianw | xenial-aarch64 or something like that, and define separate jobs | 19:43 |
| pabelanger | would we gate jobs on the cloud? Or just pipeline specific for aarch64? | 19:43 |
| ianw | i imagine it would be a very soft start | 19:43 |
| gema | pabelanger: from discussions with fungi and inc0, we start small | 19:43 |
| ianw | gema has expressed that capacity and performance are still scaling up | 19:44 |
| gema | let other teams try if they want | 19:44 |
| gema | and then grow capacity | 19:44 |
| gema | yep, we are working on that in the background | 19:44 |
| pabelanger | sure, I'm thinking we might have it setup like we do with tripleo-test-cloud-rh1 today, jobs opt into a pipeline with aarch64 nodes | 19:44 |
| pabelanger | but, we aren't there yet | 19:45 |
| ianw | yep, i think that's a good option as a model too | 19:46 |
| hrw | first let get base stuff running | 19:46 |
| ianw | so yeah, it's going to be easiest if we can get dib building images just like everywhere else | 19:46 |
| ianw | to that end we've been working on gpt/efi support | 19:47 |
| ianw | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/dib-efi | 19:47 |
| hrw | ianw: thanks again for doing most of work | 19:48 |
| ianw | I'm pretty confident we'll get that going, which would be easier than going back to snapshot images or something | 19:48 |
| hrw | finding out how dib is layered was making me mad | 19:48 |
| pabelanger | agree, getting DIB working should be first step | 19:50 |
| corvus | pabelanger: why a pipeline? | 19:50 |
| corvus | oh, because we only have one cloud? | 19:50 |
| hrw | with current set of patches we are at point where resulting images should be bootable | 19:50 |
| pabelanger | corvus: yah, single cloud question | 19:50 |
| corvus | cool, any plans yet to add a second? or see how things go first? | 19:51 |
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| gema | corvus: the second is in the making | 19:51 |
| gema | more hw is coming to the first or the second or the third | 19:51 |
| gema | and we'll add capacity as it reaches us and we spin up new clouds | 19:51 |
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| gema | corvus: depending on the member they ship us hardware to different datacenters and it is our job to make it available via developer cloud amongst other projects | 19:52 |
| corvus | cool. i think once we have some confidence that a cloud blip won't cause projects to get stuck, we can fold the new pipeline back into the normal check pipeline. | 19:52 |
| hrw | and that keeps gema happy cause servers stop stacking on her desk | 19:52 |
| gema | hrw: absolutely | 19:52 |
| gema | corvus: new cloud being span up in UK short after Queens releases | 19:52 |
| pabelanger | corvus: +1 | 19:53 |
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| ianw | oh, the one other thing i wanted to run by the peanut gallery is if we should switch infra images to GPT based boot by default | 19:53 |
| hrw | gema: and it will be running queens ;D | 19:53 |
| gema | hrw: hopefully | 19:53 |
| ianw | that would effectively make it the default | 19:53 |
| hrw | gema: I do not take other option | 19:53 |
| hrw | ianw: and do we want rootfs on vda1 or do not care | 19:53 |
| ianw | right, it involves extra partitions | 19:54 |
| hrw | the good part is GPT allows us to number partition like we want | 19:54 |
| hrw | cirros has ESP as part15 and rootfs as part1 | 19:54 |
| ianw | i'm thinking that cinder, etc, are all pretty isolated from this | 19:55 |
| hrw | so we can have: ESP/15 + BSP/14 + rootfs/1 | 19:55 |
| hrw | that way all projects assuming root=/dev/vda1 will still work | 19:55 |
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| ianw | i don't imagine anyone has an immediate response, but keep it in mind | 19:56 |
| ianw | anyway, thanks to hrw and gema and you'll be hearing more about it! | 19:57 |
| gema | ianw: thank you for your help :D | 19:57 |
| hrw | ianw: we may merge gpt stuff without affecting x86 images | 19:57 |
| gema | y'all, actually :D | 19:57 |
| ianw | #topic Open discussion | 19:57 |
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| hrw | ianw: then add block-image-aarch64.yaml which will be gpt: esp+root | 19:57 |
| pabelanger | I think infracloud might be dead, trying to see if I can get onto ilo of controller | 19:57 |
| pabelanger | but we are expecting servers to be reclaimed by HPE | 19:58 |
| corvus | pabelanger: a timely reminder of why we like cloud diversity :) | 19:58 |
| pabelanger | indeed | 19:58 |
| ianw | hrw: yeah, i think that's a first step | 19:58 |
| hrw | ianw: 'do no harm' way | 19:58 |
| hrw | ianw: so we get stuff to get aarch64 running and in meantime x86 devs can try gpt images | 19:59 |
| hrw | 99% of x86 VM instances are i440fx/bios ones anyway | 20:00 |
| ianw | ok, that's time for us ... come by #openstack-infra for more discussions! | 20:00 |
| ianw | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 20:00:55 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2018/infra.2018-01-23-19.01.html | 20:00 |
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| hrw | have a nice day | 20:01 |
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| martial | welcome Stig | 21:00 |
| oneswig | Avast! | 21:00 |
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| oneswig | Martial, take it away... :-) | 21:00 |
| martial | #startmeeting Scientific-SIG | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 23 21:00:29 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is martial. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 21:00 |
| martial | #chair oneswig | 21:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial oneswig | 21:00 |
| martial | #chair b1airo | 21:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial oneswig | 21:00 |
| oneswig | #link Today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_January_23rd_2018 | 21:00 |
| oneswig | greetings | 21:01 |
| b1airo | Hi! | 21:01 |
| martial | Hello all | 21:01 |
| oneswig | Welcome back b1airo, how's the sea legs? | 21:01 |
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| b1airo | Well sadly I didn't end up getting the planned sailing trip, but did do a bit of exploring around the peninsula and free diving | 21:02 |
| yankcrime | o/ | 21:02 |
| martial | sounds fun nonetheless | 21:03 |
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| martial | welcome back | 21:03 |
| oneswig | Hi Nick! | 21:03 |
| b1airo | Was good | 21:03 |
| yankcrime | hey oneswig | 21:03 |
| oneswig | b1airo: did M3 stay up without you? :-) | 21:04 |
| b1airo | Ha! Mostly. It was down briefly for lustre expansion | 21:04 |
| oneswig | BTW any word from Nvidia on firmware that doesn't take down the hypervisor? | 21:04 |
| b1airo | Security wise? | 21:05 |
| b1airo | No, I think pushing that would require a working exploit | 21:05 |
| rbudden | hello | 21:06 |
| jmlowe | Hey Bob | 21:06 |
| oneswig | Hi Bob | 21:06 |
| oneswig | OK, shall we get going? | 21:06 |
| oneswig | #topic Vancouver summit | 21:07 |
| b1airo | And let's face it, the public cloud peeps doing GPUs have more to worry about right now with Spectre and Meltdown still largely unfixed! | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Vancouver summit (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:07 | |
| b1airo | I'd like to talk to the OVH folks at some point though | 21:07 |
| oneswig | b1airo: A good time to run bare metal (for a change) | 21:07 |
| b1airo | Yep! | 21:08 |
| martial | So the CFP for talks for the Summit has been posted | 21:08 |
| martial | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-categories | 21:08 |
| martial | if you have an idea for a talk please enter the requested information before the deadline (Feb 8?) | 21:08 |
| oneswig | martial: are you planning to speak this time round? | 21:09 |
| martial | #link https://t.e2ma.net/click/qi5vw/62zxny/27cwli | 21:09 |
| b1airo | I think I like the category reworking this time around | 21:09 |
| martial | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/call-for-presentations/ | 21:10 |
| martial | oneswig: as in despite our usual sessions? | 21:10 |
| oneswig | right, be good to hear more about what you're up to! | 21:10 |
| oneswig | I think the topic categories all look good, it's better than having University/Research tucked away under "government" (or whatever it was) | 21:12 |
| oneswig | somewhat reminiscent of "beware of the leopard" | 21:13 |
| b1airo | What about you oneswig ? I'm not sure if I'll get to Vancouver again yet, would certainly like to if only for the beer selection ;-) | 21:13 |
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| martial | good point, let me see what can be done | 21:13 |
| oneswig | b1airo: there's beer? That's that decided :-) | 21:14 |
| jmlowe | I suppose that's a good question, who thinks they can go? | 21:14 |
| jmlowe | +1 myself | 21:14 |
| b1airo | Probably, but haven't talked about travel budgets for the year yet | 21:15 |
| martial | planning to | 21:15 |
| oneswig | I am hoping to, and Belmiro and I might put forward a talk again | 21:16 |
| b1airo | If I have to choose it'd be Germany | 21:16 |
| jmlowe | I think Bob, and Tim Randles have said yes | 21:16 |
| jmlowe | SC'18 is a heart breaker conflicting with the Berlin summit | 21:16 |
| rbudden | I need to get official approval, but the plan is to attend Vancouver | 21:17 |
| rbudden | and +1 to jmlowe about Berlin/SC | 21:17 |
| b1airo | We may recycle the Cumulus talk proposal, but that's really more a vendor thing and not particularly OpenStack specific | 21:17 |
| oneswig | Seems they don't support bare metal as yet, now that would be an interesting combination | 21:19 |
| b1airo | Yeah, we have just kicked off a project to migrate the network in our second DC to Cumulus and I'm trying to throw that into the pot | 21:20 |
| oneswig | b1airo: let me know what happens | 21:21 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: before I forget, I had a question about the LUG meeting at IU. | 21:21 |
| jmlowe | oneswig: sure | 21:22 |
| oneswig | Did you attend the DDN talk on Lustre for OpenStack? | 21:22 |
| b1airo | What special requirements does Ironic have from the network in this regard oneswig ? I kinda thought if their ML2 driver worked then it should be doable...? | 21:22 |
| jmlowe | oneswig: I caught one talk, it was lustre for cinder | 21:22 |
| oneswig | b1airo: it's about creating access ports for bare metal nodes, rather than (effectively) trunk ports for hypervisor nodes | 21:22 |
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| oneswig | jmlowe: anything happen on that since? | 21:23 |
| b1airo | I.e. "access" ports? | 21:23 |
| oneswig | b1airo: the same. Untagged ports in a specific vlan, that's all. Not something that ML2 drivers with physical network awareness have to do otherwise. | 21:23 |
| jmlowe | oneswig: I'm not sure, it was at the most rudimentary level possible, simply loopback files on a lustre filesystem if I remember correctly | 21:24 |
| b1airo | Sounds like it warrants a lab setup | 21:24 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: really just a proof-of-concept then, I guess? | 21:24 |
| jmlowe | oneswig: nothing that couldn't be accomplished with a simple path manipulation in stock cinder | 21:25 |
| smcginnis | oneswig, jmlowe: Someone actually has proposed a lustre Cinder driver: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395572/ | 21:25 |
| oneswig | b1airo: we've used networking-generic-switch in this role before, might port to Cumulus | 21:25 |
| smcginnis | They just have not followed through with all the requirements to have it accepted yet. | 21:25 |
| jmlowe | oneswig: I'm not sure there was even a concept to prove | 21:25 |
| oneswig | Thanks smcginnis, useful to know | 21:26 |
| b1airo | oneswig: probably, will look into it - also have an email from you somewhere here I didn't get to while on holiday! | 21:26 |
| smcginnis | Might be worth pinging them if there is interest to have that available. | 21:26 |
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| oneswig | seems like they've not progressed it for ~9 months, but perhaps it can be reinvigorated | 21:29 |
| oneswig | OK shall we move on? | 21:30 |
| oneswig | #topic PTG wish list | 21:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG wish list (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:31 | |
| oneswig | I'm hoping to attend the PTG in Dublin in about a month. | 21:31 |
| martial | cool | 21:31 |
| oneswig | The OpenStack Foundation invited us to book some time in the cross-project sessions for Scientific SIG activities | 21:31 |
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| oneswig | Right now, we'd like to gather areas of interest | 21:32 |
| oneswig | We have preemptible instances, Ironic deploy steps, cinder multi-attach, some other bare metal use cases. | 21:32 |
| oneswig | What do people want to see? | 21:33 |
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| rbudden | I know Tim and I were interested in Ironic diskless boot | 21:33 |
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| rbudden | Tim more so than me | 21:34 |
| b1airo | +1 to jump-starting the preemption spec | 21:34 |
| jmlowe | +1 prempt | 21:34 |
| oneswig | These are all topics that are underway and active to varying degrees. | 21:34 |
| jmlowe | +1 ironic diskless boot (especially if it could be ceph backed) | 21:34 |
| oneswig | It's about redoubling the effort to produce something we really need. | 21:34 |
| priteau | jmlowe: I believe you can already boot ironic nodes from Cinder volumes (which could be stored on Ceph) | 21:35 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: that's an interesting take on it. I think all discussion to date has been around iscsi not rbd | 21:35 |
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| oneswig | hi priteau, snap :-) | 21:36 |
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| jmlowe | let's say you wanted to boot a 20k ironic cluster in under 30 min, ceph's scale out is probably your only hope | 21:36 |
| b1airo | Presumably the initial netboot image could mount an RBD, but probably means you have to be happy to let the bare-metal node have access to your Ceph nodes | 21:37 |
| oneswig | jmlowe: would certainly help. Got some nice graphs earlier this week showing ceph scaling client load better than gpfs | 21:37 |
| priteau | I haven't tried this feature (we're on Ocata), I see the doc mentions iSCSI: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/pike/admin/boot-from-volume.html | 21:37 |
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| jmlowe | rbudden might be interested in that as well | 21:38 |
| oneswig | priteau: one issue is, in jmlowe's example we have 20k nodes = 20k volumes | 21:38 |
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| oneswig | thin-provisioning - how far would that get you? | 21:38 |
| rbudden | I believe what Tim was looking for was more akin to booting a ramdisk | 21:38 |
| rbudden | then RO mount of / | 21:39 |
| jmlowe | I'm thinking relative to thinly provisioned storage ramdisks move more data across the wire during boot | 21:39 |
| rbudden | so one image (as oneswig mentions) instead of thousands of Cinder volumes | 21:39 |
| rbudden | I admit that cinder boot from volume solves my problem (as we only have 4 superdomes without disks) | 21:40 |
| rbudden | on my todo list to test ;) | 21:40 |
| oneswig | only 4 superdomes and you couldn't afford disks for them? :-) | 21:40 |
| priteau | oneswig: good point, I didn't think about that. But could you boot all nodes from the same volume read-only volume, and then use overlayfs for writes? | 21:41 |
| rbudden | oneswig: no place for local drives, was easier/cheaper to just netboot them ;) | 21:42 |
| oneswig | priteau: I think there's something in that. Currently, the cinder multi-attach work doesn't cover this use case, as far as I understand, and enable cacheing of data for a volume that is (and always will be) read-only everywhere | 21:42 |
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| priteau | Tim's use case of booting into a ramdisk is useful anyway, a cloud may not have cinder, or not a performant / HA one | 21:43 |
| oneswig | There was also reference to using kexec to cut boot time, right? | 21:43 |
| rbudden | priteau: agreed. I’d love to have all nodes in Ironic instead of 4 stragglers done manually | 21:44 |
| rbudden | oneswig: +1 kexec would be great since boot reboot times on HPC nodes is killer | 21:44 |
| rbudden | half the reason we manage software stacks via puppet instead of an ironic reimage is due to reimage time because of the multiple reboots necessary | 21:45 |
| priteau | oneswig: that I would like for Chameleon, it could cut our (frequent) deployment time by almost half | 21:45 |
| jmlowe | what, you don't want to post a couple of TB of ram or something? | 21:45 |
| rbudden | well the superdome’s heh… yeah that’s even worse ;) | 21:45 |
| oneswig | Any other items for the wish list? | 21:46 |
| jmlowe | these release are getting down right boring, we almost have a fully functional cloud operating system | 21:46 |
| oneswig | steady on... | 21:47 |
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| martial | jmlowe :) | 21:48 |
| oneswig | OK, ok, I'll add "fully functional cloud OS" to the list | 21:48 |
| oneswig | #topic AOB | 21:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AOB (Meeting topic: Scientific-SIG)" | 21:49 | |
| b1airo | Where did ttx's release cycle thread end up, I lost track ? | 21:49 |
| oneswig | Longest thread in history, I believe | 21:50 |
| jmlowe | 5 weeks to queens! | 21:50 |
| b1airo | Any popular proposal found for board consideration? | 21:50 |
| oneswig | didn't follow it to conclusion, alas | 21:51 |
| b1airo | I'll go looking for a dumpster fire in my inbox... ;-) | 21:51 |
| oneswig | b1airo: might be in among occasional references to something called "meltdown"... | 21:53 |
| b1airo | I have to say I'm still amazed at the complete and utter debacle of Meltdown et al | 21:54 |
| b1airo | Has anyone else been watching Linus flame Intel devs? | 21:56 |
| oneswig | Just saw something along those lines... | 21:56 |
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| b1airo | Classic tech industry case study: "This is why we can't have nice things" | 21:57 |
| b1airo | "(also AI will murder us all - in our sleep if we're lucky)" | 21:58 |
| oneswig | on that happy note, we are almost out of time | 21:58 |
| martial | +1 on both | 21:58 |
| oneswig | to the end of the meeting, not AI-fuelled armageddon... | 21:58 |
| b1airo | ;-) | 21:59 |
| b1airo | ttfn! | 21:59 |
| martial | sure :) | 21:59 |
| oneswig | Thanks all, until next time | 22:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 23 22:00:15 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-01-23-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-01-23-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| rbudden | cya! | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-01-23-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
| priteau | bye all! | 22:01 |
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