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| gongysh | #startmeeting tacker | 04:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 04:30:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 04:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 04:30 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 04:30 |
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| gongysh | hi | 04:30 |
| gongysh | #topic roll call | 04:30 |
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| gongysh | YanXingAn, hi | 04:31 |
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| YanXingAn | hi | 04:31 |
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| longkb | o/ | 04:33 |
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| YanXing_an | hi, gongysh | 04:37 |
| gongysh | YanXing_an, hi | 04:37 |
| gongysh | it seems other guys are not available here. | 04:38 |
| gongysh | we will have a short meeting | 04:38 |
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| dkushwaha | o/ | 04:38 |
| gongysh | longkb, please update the patch | 04:38 |
| gongysh | I have see your demo | 04:38 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, YanXing_an , please see the longkb patch and demo | 04:38 |
| YanXing_an | gongysh, ok | 04:39 |
| gongysh | #info https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzRaKVeikc&feature=youtu.be | 04:39 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, sure | 04:39 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, do you have something to discuss? | 04:39 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, couple of bugs | 04:39 |
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| gongysh | ok, we can go through these bugs one by one | 04:40 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532046/ | 04:40 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, I think it is should be, the vnf cannot be deleted if it is part of any ns | 04:41 |
| longkb | gongysh, I will update it | 04:41 |
| gongysh | longkb, do you have guys to use this feature? | 04:42 |
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| dkushwaha | gongysh, i think, we should delete only those VNFs which are in ACTIVE state, because, errored VNFs can be deleted(not sure). and another main point is if delete_ns called, it will set state as pending_delete and then proceed for VNF deletion. In that case it will get blocked | 04:42 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, thats why i check for ACTIVE only. what is your suggestion on that? | 04:43 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, is there anyway to tell if the deletion of vnf is triggered by deletion of ns? | 04:45 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, yup, by db. | 04:46 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, let me search & paste link here | 04:46 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, lets do this way. | 04:47 |
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| dkushwaha | gongysh, you mean keep it as it is? | 04:49 |
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| gongysh | dkushwaha, I mean to tell if the deletion of vnf is triggered by deletion of ns by db. | 04:50 |
| gongysh | you said by db, we can do. | 04:50 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, ok, i will check it again and update it. | 04:51 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491658/ | 04:52 |
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| dkushwaha | could you please check it again | 04:53 |
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| dkushwaha | i think its good to go | 04:53 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, could you add a unit test for it? | 04:54 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, ok, will do it | 04:54 |
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| gongysh | and how the command line to provide a '' description? | 04:55 |
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| dkushwaha | gongysh, yea it can be an empty string | 04:57 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, tacker ns-create --nsd-name admin-nsd1 --description '' nnnn, right? | 04:58 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, yes | 04:58 |
| gongysh | ok | 04:58 |
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| gongysh | next bug, please | 04:59 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tacker/+bug/1658364 | 04:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658364 in tacker "DBReferenceError when Deploy or delete vnffg" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Tim Rozet (trozet) | 04:59 |
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| dkushwaha | i was lookong for this, but i needs to rebase it | 05:00 |
| gongysh | ok | 05:00 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, please add a reno doc for each bug fix too. | 05:01 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, sure | 05:01 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532802/ | 05:01 |
| gongysh | http://logs.openstack.org/02/532802/1/check/tacker-functional-devstack/5b811f1/testr_results.html.gz | 05:02 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, the name you are using is not an legal one in heat. | 05:02 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha. we also need to consider the compatibility of previous uuid way. | 05:03 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, you mean something like vnf_name + vnf_id? | 05:04 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, yes | 05:04 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, ok, will update it | 05:04 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, compatibility is a big issue | 05:04 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, i feel the above error is may be due to some test cases,which i missed to update, but ok, i will check it again | 05:05 |
| gongysh | we have to first consider the previous name pattern, and then new name pattern when we do vnf deletion or other operations. | 05:05 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, I done from my side for now. | 05:07 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, ok, thanks | 05:08 |
| gongysh | #topic annoucement | 05:08 |
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| gongysh | it seems china mobile has a use cases for tacker, so we will do some big refactor in next cycle. | 05:09 |
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| gongysh | #topic open discussion | 05:10 |
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| gongysh | it seems phuoc cannot be here, we will talk k8s vnf at tacker channel when I can meet him. | 05:10 |
| gongysh | anything else? | 05:10 |
| gongysh | ok | 05:11 |
| gongysh | lets end meeting | 05:11 |
| gongysh | thanks | 05:11 |
| gongysh | #endmeeting | 05:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 05:11:44 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-01-17-04.30.html | 05:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-01-17-04.30.txt | 05:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2018/tacker.2018-01-17-04.30.log.html | 05:11 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific-sig | 11:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 11:00:31 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific-sig)" | 11:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_sig' | 11:00 |
| oneswig | ahoy there | 11:00 |
| daveholland | morning | 11:00 |
| oneswig | #link Agenda for today https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_SIG#IRC_Meeting_January_17th_2018 | 11:00 |
| oneswig | Hi daveholland, morning | 11:00 |
| yankcrime | o/ | 11:01 |
| oneswig | Hi Nick! | 11:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 11:01 |
| * ildikov is lurking :) | 11:01 | |
| oneswig | And John! | 11:01 |
| strigazi | Hello | 11:01 |
| vabada | hi | 11:01 |
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| oneswig | and indeed, hi everyone | 11:01 |
| * ildikov is looking at johnthetubaguy with cat eyes from Shrek :) | 11:01 | |
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| priteau | Good morning! | 11:02 |
| oneswig | While people gather, we have Spyros with us today, Magnum PTL. Thanks for coming Spyros | 11:02 |
| oneswig | Hi priteau | 11:02 |
| belmoreira | hi | 11:02 |
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| oneswig | Ready to get stared? | 11:03 |
| oneswig | started... | 11:03 |
| oneswig | (hi belmoreira) | 11:03 |
| oneswig | #topic Magnum for research computing use cases | 11:03 |
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| oneswig | Spyros, thanks for coming. We have a ton of questions and I'm sure others do too. | 11:04 |
| oneswig | Can you set the ball rolling by describing what's happening with Magnum and bare metal? It appears to have really improved in the last year | 11:04 |
| strigazi | Sure, thanks | 11:05 |
| strigazi | Since the Newton cycle in 2016 magnum has the concept of cluster drivers | 11:05 |
| strigazi | The goal of this change is to focus each cluster deployment in a combination of server type (vm|bm), Operating System and COE | 11:06 |
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| oneswig | A single driver for each 3-tuple of these? | 11:07 |
| strigazi | Following this pattern we ended up having a driver for vm based drivers and ironic | 11:07 |
| strigazi | yes | 11:07 |
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| strigazi | ed fedora-atomic, virtual machine, kubernetes | 11:07 |
| strigazi | s/ed/eg | 11:07 |
| strigazi | Ironic wasn't playing nice with neutron at that time | 11:08 |
| strigazi | And the implementation was a assuming that all nodes are in a pre-existing network | 11:09 |
| strigazi | plus we didn't have a way to make the usage of cinder optional. | 11:09 |
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| oneswig | All good points... | 11:10 |
| oneswig | So what happened? | 11:10 |
| strigazi | We used to have a cinder volume in each node moutned for container storage without the option to opt-out | 11:10 |
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| strigazi | So, we just made all these configurable and optionnal | 11:11 |
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| strigazi | We can now use the same setup for both VMs and physical servers | 11:12 |
| oneswig | So Ironic is a support through a set of options. But COE is still a different driver, right? | 11:12 |
| priteau | strigazi: You mentioned issues between Ironic and Neutron. Do you require multi-tenant networking to be configured? | 11:13 |
| strigazi | yes, we have a patch in flight to consolidate and weach COE is tied to the operating system | 11:13 |
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| strigazi | priteau: the usual use case is to have a private network where all nodes will be running. This network can be shared among tenants | 11:14 |
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| oneswig | strigazi: any plan to offer an unusual case? ingest bandwidth is an issue for us | 11:15 |
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| strigazi | oneswig: what do you mean? What network configuration do you need? | 11:15 |
| oneswig | anything without a neutron router process between the data source and the container cluster, ideally | 11:16 |
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| oneswig | For example, a simplified setup where the nodes are deployed bound to a pre-existing (provider) network. Would work for us but we may be niche | 11:17 |
| daveholland | that layout would be of interest to us too | 11:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was thinking of using additional ips rather than floating ips, for example | 11:17 |
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| strigazi | Will you be able to create ports to that network? | 11:18 |
| oneswig | strigazi: yes | 11:18 |
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| * johnthetubaguy thinks you can pass ports into nova for ironic instances now, not 100% sure | 11:19 | |
| strigazi | I think that can done today already without patching magnum | 11:19 |
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| priteau | oneswig: Do you have a write-up of how you use these existing provider networks to bypass a centralized Neutron router? We would be interested in Chameleon to perform high-bandwidth experiments | 11:19 |
| oneswig | strigazi: so we can configure Magnum not to create the network and router? | 11:20 |
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| oneswig | priteau: I'm not sure there's any rocket science to it - but our system is not as multi-tenant as yours. Lets talk after. | 11:21 |
| strigazi | oneswig: yes, that is already in pike for vms, ironic machines are expected to work in the same way in queens | 11:21 |
| priteau | oneswig: Thanks, I don't want to go off-topic | 11:21 |
| oneswig | strigazi: sounds good to me. | 11:22 |
| oneswig | strigazi: we are a little off mainline but we may have problems with deploying using Atomic Host cloud images - they lack drivers for some of the krazy hardware in our nodes (IB, etc). Is it possible to build our own images and bake this stuff in? | 11:22 |
| strigazi | Getting the network architecture set correctly is the first thing to do | 11:22 |
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| strigazi | We used to have a diskimage-builder script for custom atomic hosts but we stopped using it and went for the upstream fedora releases. We can update it | 11:24 |
| oneswig | strigazi: If it's on git, we'd be happy to refresh it. | 11:24 |
| strigazi | The best option would be if those drivers could be installed on a running instance | 11:24 |
| strigazi | Would that be possible? | 11:25 |
| oneswig | Can be problematic for RAID devices, otherwise it should be | 11:25 |
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| strigazi | another option would be to use the standard images build with DIB and add the ostee storage for system containers | 11:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | image builder is really good for ironic though, given ironic doesn't do snapshots | 11:26 |
| oneswig | It's already part of our workflow in many other areas, we are immune to the pain | 11:27 |
| oneswig | or perhaps numbed | 11:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | heh | 11:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | both probably | 11:28 |
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| strigazi | so we can have a working item after this meeting, run system container on non-atomic hosts OR build custom atomic images | 11:29 |
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| strigazi | always with diskimage-builder | 11:29 |
| strigazi | you use diskimage-builder right? | 11:29 |
| oneswig | strigazi: I haven't checked if DIB supports atomic as a target, but if it does, that sounds like a good plan to me. | 11:29 |
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| johnthetubaguy | those network requirements, its it really just the need to define the ports before building the instance (to get the IP address?) | 11:31 |
| strigazi | johnthetubaguy: yes | 11:31 |
| priteau | oneswig: I don't see atomic support in the DIB repo, but there is http://teknoarticles.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/generate-fedora-atomic-images-using.html | 11:32 |
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| oneswig | Thanks priteau, I'll bookmark that | 11:32 |
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| oneswig | OK, did we have other questions on Magnum for now? | 11:33 |
| strigazi | it is also here https://github.com/openstack/magnum/tree/master/magnum/drivers/common/image/fedora-atomic | 11:33 |
| oneswig | It kind of ties in to the next topic which relates to the PTG activities | 11:33 |
| strigazi | oneswig: I have a question towards users :) | 11:33 |
| oneswig | strigazi: good link - I know that guy :-) | 11:34 |
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| strigazi | Is your main use case short or long living clusters? | 11:34 |
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| oneswig | For us on the SKA project, it's long-lived, by which we mean weeks | 11:35 |
| oneswig | That seems to be the pattern so far. | 11:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | not sure about the virtual lab case, depends if they run on the cluster, or they are clusters | 11:35 |
| daveholland | at Sanger: possibly both/either (long-lived for replacing the current compute clusters; short-lived for burst-y adding capacity to those) | 11:36 |
| oneswig | How short is short? | 11:36 |
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| strigazi | Let's say less than two months | 11:36 |
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| oneswig | One thing we'd love to see is dynamic ramp up/down in a demand driven cycle. We have a use case for that | 11:36 |
| oneswig | #link would be excellent to see a Magnum equivalent of this http://www.informaticslab.co.uk/dask/2017/07/21/adaptive-dask-clusters-on-kubernetes-and-aws.html | 11:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | true, add/remove node is more likely than add/remove cluster | 11:38 |
| strigazi | We can work on a kubernetes autoscaler for magnum | 11:38 |
| oneswig | strigazi: do you know of anything underway? | 11:38 |
| martial__ | I agree, I think most of us have this need to autoscale | 11:39 |
| oneswig | Hi martial__, morning | 11:39 |
| oneswig | #chair martial__ | 11:39 |
| openstack | Current chairs: martial__ oneswig | 11:39 |
| martial__ | Hi Stig | 11:39 |
| strigazi | Nothing at the moment, but since kube 1.8 or 1.9 it is possible to write autoscaler with user defined metrics | 11:39 |
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| oneswig | I believe there are public cloud plugins for this but nothing for OpenStack as of ~6 months ago | 11:40 |
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| strigazi | Well in openstack the resources usually are not infinite | 11:40 |
| strigazi | The auto scaling feaure is not the same in a private cloud with quotas | 11:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | although credit cards have limits too | 11:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | but granted, its not identical | 11:41 |
| oneswig | strigazi: http://www.stackhpc.com/baremetal-cloud-capacity.html - we do want to use the capacity we have to the fullest extent | 11:42 |
| oneswig | We should move on | 11:43 |
| strigazi | When we have preemptibles :) | 11:43 |
| oneswig | Final items for Magnum? | 11:43 |
| strigazi | One last thing from me. | 11:43 |
| oneswig | strigazi: excellent. To be continued... | 11:43 |
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| strigazi | Do you support server rebuilds on ironic nodes? We can continue another time if you want | 11:44 |
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| oneswig | strigazi: sometimes it helps to rebuild a node | 11:44 |
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| oneswig | I've used it. Not in a Magnum context. But people like the IPs they know... | 11:44 |
| oneswig | We can continue in ~5 weeks at the PTG perhaps? | 11:45 |
| strigazi | oneswig: sounds good to me, we want to base the upgrade capability on it (rebuild) | 11:45 |
| strigazi | sure | 11:45 |
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| oneswig | strigazi: I've seen Nova people not liking rebuilds - johnthetubaguy can you comment? | 11:46 |
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| oneswig | Perhaps we should take that offline too | 11:47 |
| oneswig | Time is pressing | 11:47 |
| oneswig | #topic SIG representation at PTG | 11:47 |
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| oneswig | Aha, so we have some time during the cross-project phase to advocate use cases. | 11:47 |
| martial__ | should we have a second session on this topic? | 11:48 |
| oneswig | Currently this has some CERN/SKA discussions and the Ironic configurable deploy steps | 11:48 |
| oneswig | martial__: perhaps request input and follow up? | 11:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | oneswig: thinking still, should work in theory. | 11:48 |
| oneswig | #link deployment steps spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/412523/ | 11:49 |
| oneswig | Use cases I've seen have requested kexec and boot-to-ramdisk, for example | 11:50 |
| oneswig | All a bit unusual in a cloud mindset | 11:50 |
| oneswig | but very useful for SIG members | 11:50 |
| oneswig | priteau: are you still following this spec? | 11:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | getting the use cases and context accurate really helps get the right design | 11:50 |
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| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 11:52 |
| ildikov | oneswig: I have one item regarding PTG too | 11:52 |
| oneswig | ildikov: go for it | 11:52 |
| priteau | oneswig: for Chameleon I think many users may want to use the new "Boot from Volume" functionality when we move to Pike or later, but I am still interested in a more configurable Ironic -- I haven't fully reviewed the spec yet though. | 11:52 |
| ildikov | oneswig: I'm dedicated that we will have multi-attach in Queens | 11:52 |
| oneswig | You certainly are dedicated :-) | 11:53 |
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| ildikov | oneswig: well I hope johnthetubaguy has a half day to review the Nova patches like today or tomorrow the latest :) | 11:53 |
| ildikov | oneswig: back to the topic, it's a first version and we're planning a cross-project session with Cinder and Nova on improvements for the PTG | 11:54 |
| johnthetubaguy | its honestly looking like Friday :( | 11:54 |
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| oneswig | I can expect this to be extremely useful if we can do the all-read-only, cached mode that alas seems to be beyond this version | 11:54 |
| ildikov | oneswig: and would love to have use cases and some input on how people are planning to use it | 11:54 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I will ask melwitt if she might have a little time for it | 11:55 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its permissive, so you can do it with read/write volumes I think | 11:55 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: please do it on Friday then as the gate is blowing up all the time, so if anything needs to be fixed that's a bloodbath next week to get it done :( | 11:55 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: we're turning cache off which I think is the issue with the case oneswig mentioned | 11:56 |
| oneswig | correct - would need a model where clients can cache or the fan-in of load will be bad | 11:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | I didn't think it was that good of a cache we turned off, but that is a needed optimization | 11:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | I know v1 is libvirt only too, I guess we might need ironic support | 11:58 |
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| priteau | oneswig: Do you have more details about when the SIG session would happen during the PTG? The Blazar meetings are getting moved to Monday and Tuesday to remove conflict with Nova sessions. | 11:58 |
| ildikov | oneswig: it's definitely an interesting case as those settings happening at attach time and I'm not aware of changing that easily later | 11:58 |
| oneswig | We should continue this - and will - in following meetings. Thanks ildikov for raising it | 11:58 |
| ildikov | oneswig: thanks for the opportunity :) | 11:58 |
| oneswig | priteau: half day on either Monday or Tuesday AFAIK. | 11:58 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: +1 for Ironic | 11:58 |
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| martial__ | sounds like a plan, lots of things to continue in a follow up meeting | 11:59 |
| johnthetubaguy | would be great to get phase 2 planned for multi-attach | 11:59 |
| oneswig | johnthetubaguy: +1 on that | 11:59 |
| ildikov | johnthetubaguy: I just wish to get phase one in finally first :) | 12:00 |
| oneswig | It has huge potential, I think | 12:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | ildikov: +100 | 12:00 |
| oneswig | We are out of time, alas | 12:00 |
| oneswig | And johnthetubaguy has just used up every plus-sign in the country | 12:00 |
| martial__ | lots of good things to follow up on | 12:00 |
| ildikov | :) | 12:00 |
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| oneswig | Thanks everyone | 12:00 |
| oneswig | #endmeeting | 12:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 12:00:47 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-01-17-11.00.html | 12:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-01-17-11.00.txt | 12:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_sig/2018/scientific_sig.2018-01-17-11.00.log.html | 12:00 |
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| armstrong | @smcginnis | 12:09 |
| armstrong | Hello | 12:09 |
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| smcginnis | armstrong: Hello | 13:38 |
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| armstrong | @smcginnis I will like to join the release team and actively participate in meetings | 13:47 |
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| smcginnis | armstrong: That's great! When not in meetings, we are in the #openstack-release channel. | 13:48 |
| armstrong | Ok thanks | 13:48 |
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| armstrong | @smcginnis: I have some questions on my Ph.D research concerning the release of OpenStack. Maybe I should contact you on email about that. | 13:52 |
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| mugsie | #startmeeting Designate | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 14:00:25 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mugsie. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'designate' | 14:00 |
| mugsie | #topic Roll Call | 14:00 |
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| bnemec | o/ | 14:01 |
| mugsie | lets give people a few minutes to jump in | 14:01 |
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| mugsie | frickler: simon-AS559 daidv courtesy ping | 14:04 |
| mugsie | bnemec: looks like it is just you and me :) | 14:05 |
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| bnemec | :-) | 14:05 |
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| mugsie | I don't have much, I have been out of work sick since last week | 14:05 |
| mugsie | apart from needing someone to run the meeting next week, as I am going to on vacation | 14:06 |
| mugsie | or we could skip the meeting | 14:06 |
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| mugsie | i can send a message to -dev asking for someone to step up | 14:07 |
| bnemec | I'm still pretty much focused on deploying Designate with TripleO. | 14:07 |
| mugsie | cool - is there anything your finding that we need to fix> | 14:07 |
| mugsie | ?* | 14:07 |
| bnemec | Not at the moment. My current problems are the poor state of TripleO container docs. | 14:08 |
| bnemec | I've actually got it deploying on baremetal alright. | 14:08 |
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| bnemec | I expect I'll have some questions when I start trying to do ha and such. | 14:09 |
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| mugsie | OK - if you need anything, just shout :) | 14:15 |
| mugsie | I think that may be it for today :) | 14:16 |
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| mugsie | #endmeeting | 14:16 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 14:16:21 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-01-17-14.00.html | 14:16 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-01-17-14.00.txt | 14:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/designate/2018/designate.2018-01-17-14.00.log.html | 14:16 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | #startmeeting fog-edge-massively-distributed-clouds | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 15:00:36 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ad_ri3n_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'fog_edge_massively_distributed_clouds' | 15:00 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #chair ad_ri3n_ | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ad_ri3n_ | 15:01 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #chair ad_ri3n_ | 15:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ad_ri3n_ | 15:01 |
| ad_ri3n_ | arg… | 15:01 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | so let's see who join | 15:01 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #topic roll call | 15:01 |
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| parus | Good day! | 15:01 |
| ad_ri3n_ | (best wishes BTW, if I'm right this is our first meeting ;)) | 15:01 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Hi Parus | 15:01 |
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| kgiusti | o/ | 15:02 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:02 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massivfbely_distributed_ircmeetings_2018 line 29 agenda | 15:02 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | sorry wrong link | 15:03 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massively_distributed_ircmeetings_2018 line 29 agenda | 15:03 |
| avankemp | o/ | 15:03 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | Please go through the announcement section | 15:03 |
| ad_ri3n_ | If you have question please feel free | 15:03 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | ;) | 15:03 |
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| msimonin | o/ | 15:04 |
| alisanhaji | hi | 15:04 |
| ad_ri3n_ | new resolutions for 2018, let's try to be more fruitful | 15:04 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | ;) | 15:04 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Hi alisanhaji | 15:04 |
| msimonin | hey alisanhaji :) | 15:04 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok so last minute for asking questions regarding the news :) | 15:05 |
| alisanhaji | What are the news? | 15:05 |
| ad_ri3n_ | sorry alisanhaji | 15:05 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | please give a look to our etherpad: | 15:05 |
| ad_ri3n_ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massively_distributed_ircmeetings_2018 line 29 | 15:05 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | and BTW please add your name in the attendees section | 15:06 |
| ad_ri3n_ | thanks | 15:06 |
| ad_ri3n_ | maybe I can just add that we have been working with rcherrueau the whole day trying to achieve a gap analysis | 15:06 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | of existing code base w.r.t. edge requirements | 15:06 |
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| rcherrueau | o/ | 15:07 |
| msimonin | hi rcherrueau | 15:07 |
| parus | Is there an etherpad? | 15:07 |
| rcherrueau | hi msimonin | 15:07 |
| msimonin | parus: +1 | 15:07 |
| alisanhaji | hi rcherrueau | 15:07 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | I'm not sharing it yet as it is really crappy from the formatting viewpoint now | 15:07 |
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| rcherrueau | hi alisanhaji | 15:08 |
| parus | If we are still in news. I can point out two new community initiatives. | 15:08 |
| ad_ri3n_ | sure please go ahead | 15:09 |
| ad_ri3n_ | (and add it to the pad ;)) | 15:09 |
| parus | 1- The ONAP usecase team has started a group looking at Edge computing. | 15:09 |
| ad_ri3n_ | great | 15:09 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | some links? | 15:09 |
| parus | 2- The IEEE, withing 5g.ieee.org has started a group called EAP (Edge Automation Platform) that is developping a framework for Edge. | 15:09 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | thanks | 15:10 |
| parus | I will dig out the links and post on etherpad. | 15:10 |
| ad_ri3n_ | good to not | 15:10 |
| ad_ri3n_ | to know | 15:10 |
| ad_ri3n_ | I'm wondering how we can combine our effort | 15:10 |
| ad_ri3n_ | (we should really fine a way to do not reinvent the wheel again and again) | 15:10 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | ok nothing else? | 15:11 |
| ad_ri3n_ | So let's switch to the first topic: | 15:11 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #topic ongoing-action-AMQP | 15:11 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | guys, the floor is yours | 15:12 |
| msimonin | so | 15:12 |
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| kgiusti | dragonflow - I've been sidetracked on other stuff but will begin eval work this week. | 15:12 |
| msimonin | great | 15:13 |
| kgiusti | otherwise that's about all I have this week (aside from a fix or two for the ombt2 tool) | 15:13 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | thanks kgiusti | 15:14 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | msimonin: ? | 15:14 |
| ad_ri3n_ | do you want to add something particular? | 15:14 |
| msimonin | From the massively distributed RPCs test plan side | 15:14 |
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| msimonin | Until now we are iterating on several tools : ombt2, the test framework, plugins | 15:15 |
| msimonin | plugins for collectd* | 15:15 |
| msimonin | I think we diverge a bit from the innitial goal | 15:15 |
| msimonin | which was to implement the test case (https://docs.openstack.org/performance-docs/latest/test_plans/massively_distribute_rpc/plan.html) | 15:15 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok | 15:16 |
| msimonin | We'll need to refocus a bit during the next few weeks | 15:16 |
| msimonin | especially get back to the initial massively distributed aspects of the test case | 15:16 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok no problem. I guess if did this choice because it was/is relevant? | 15:17 |
| ad_ri3n_ | s/if did/ if you did | 15:17 |
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| msimonin | Yes, all the tools are better than before, the framework is strong | 15:17 |
| ad_ri3n_ | cool | 15:18 |
| ad_ri3n_ | You need to provide us a short overview of this stack ;) | 15:18 |
| ad_ri3n_ | a white paper :-P | 15:18 |
| ad_ri3n_ | anything else? | 15:18 |
| msimonin | #link https://github.com/msimonin/ombt-orchestrator | 15:18 |
| msimonin | this a good entry point I guess | 15:19 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | (@msimonin it seems someone forgot to put the link toward the first results regarding rabbit) | 15:19 |
| ad_ri3n_ | line 54 in the pad | 15:19 |
| ad_ri3n_ | thanks | 15:20 |
| msimonin | ad_ri3n_: done | 15:20 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | ok in a few words | 15:21 |
| ad_ri3n_ | what are the first lessons you discovered? | 15:21 |
| msimonin | We made all the experiments using rabbitmq (so centralized message bus) | 15:21 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | and? | 15:22 |
| msimonin | This are more baseline study for now | 15:22 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok | 15:22 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | ok so more infos next time I guess? | 15:23 |
| msimonin | You are greedy :) | 15:23 |
| ad_ri3n_ | :-P | 15:24 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok so let's move to the next topic | 15:24 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #topic ongoing-actions-cockroach | 15:24 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | @rcherrueau @Marie_ | 15:24 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ? | 15:24 |
| rcherrueau | Nothing really new regarding nova. WIP ... (still struggling with the correlated subqueries) | 15:25 |
| rcherrueau | 15:25 | |
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| rcherrueau | Good news btw, Marie_ (o/ Marie_ ?) started an internship at Inria and she gonna work on cockroachdb perf | 15:26 |
| rcherrueau | We plan to do perf analysis of Keystone + Galera vs. Keystone + CockroachDB | 15:26 |
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| Marie_ | Hi everyone :) | 15:27 |
| rcherrueau | (maybe we will reuse the framework of msimonin & co ;) | 15:27 |
| msimonin | I can help writing the experiments :) | 15:27 |
| rcherrueau | We plan to redo scenario defined in the performance working group | 15:27 |
| avankemp | so can I :) (Hi Marie !) | 15:27 |
| rcherrueau | But if you have a specific scenario in mind, and want us to test is, do not hesitate | 15:28 |
| rcherrueau | to test it* | 15:28 |
| parus | @rcherrueau: is there anything we can learn from the paper that Allison shared | 15:28 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Thanks, maybe one can mention also that you push a blog related to the edge activities within the discovery and the first ticket is around the implementation cockroach-based keystone | 15:28 |
| parus | #link http://cnp.neclab.eu/projects/lightvm/lightvm.pdf | 15:28 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | yes parus ? | 15:29 |
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| parus | In particular the part where they remove database? | 15:29 |
| ad_ri3n_ | @rcherrueau can you please c/p the link to the post | 15:29 |
| msimonin | Should we go discuss at the PTG with Keystone teamp ? | 15:29 |
| rcherrueau | ad_ri3n_: yep, discovery blog | 15:29 |
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| rcherrueau | #link https://beyondtheclouds.github.io/blog/ | 15:29 |
| rcherrueau | parus: I have to take a look at the paper, thanks for the link | 15:30 |
| msimonin | rcherrueau: We could ping Keystone folks to gather use cases | 15:31 |
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| * ad_ri3n_ is looking for the section dealing with DB stuff (any hint welcome ;)) | 15:31 | |
| rcherrueau | msimonin: you are right, lemme add this as a TODO on my side. | 15:32 |
| ad_ri3n_ | parus: I cannot see this paragraph | 15:32 |
| ad_ri3n_ | can you point me? | 15:32 |
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| parus | Give me a minute! I am not as fast as you are :-) | 15:33 |
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| parus | section 5.1 No XenStore | 15:33 |
| ad_ri3n_ | thanks | 15:33 |
| ad_ri3n_ | I will give it a look | 15:33 |
| ad_ri3n_ | thanks | 15:33 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | I'm not sure (I may be wrong as I just went through the paper quickly) | 15:34 |
| ad_ri3n_ | but the paper looks to be focused on a single hypervisor | 15:34 |
| ad_ri3n_ | I will read it deeply and let's see what we can learn from it. | 15:35 |
| parus | It is! but Allison's point is that we can learn from their methodology. | 15:35 |
| parus | Their results are irrelevant to Openstack. The methodology can be reused. | 15:36 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok thanks for claryfing and in any case, reading SOSP papers is never waisted time ;) | 15:36 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok anything else regarding the cockroach stuff | 15:36 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ? | 15:36 |
| rcherrueau | nop | 15:36 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #ongoing-action-usecases | 15:36 |
| ad_ri3n_ | parus: do you want to mention a few words? | 15:36 |
| parus | yes. | 15:37 |
| parus | Things are moving with the help of the foundation on use cases. | 15:37 |
| parus | I would like to get this team lined up behind this effort. | 15:37 |
| ad_ri3n_ | for sure, there are discussions | 15:37 |
| parus | For instance, the etherpad above gives details on a use case for a medium size scenario.. | 15:38 |
| ad_ri3n_ | what we can work on is to try to identify expected features in terms of functions | 15:38 |
| parus | I would like to use that same model and flesh out the other use cases. | 15:38 |
| ad_ri3n_ | and conduct a gap analysis w.r.t the Openstack code base (and the different deployment scenarios) | 15:38 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ? | 15:38 |
| ad_ri3n_ | what do you think parus? | 15:39 |
| parus | Yes | 15:39 |
| ad_ri3n_ | we select one use-case (let's say medium) and dive into details | 15:39 |
| ad_ri3n_ | a few lines from the work we did today with rcherrueau | 15:39 |
| parus | yes? | 15:40 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massively_distributed_ircmeetings_2018 line 69 | 15:40 |
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| parus | Who would like to help? | 15:41 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | so from our side we hope to have a first proposal to be discussed by the end of the week | 15:42 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | parus: regarding your comment in the pad | 15:43 |
| ad_ri3n_ | we think rather in terms of expected features from the naive one to most advanced | 15:43 |
| parus | OK | 15:43 |
| ad_ri3n_ | openstack footpring for instance is something we should consider but we believe after | 15:44 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Level 1: | 15:44 |
| ad_ri3n_ | I want to be able to perform normal cloud operations on one site | 15:44 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Level 2: I want to be able to perform nomral/usual cloud operation on another site | 15:44 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Level 3: network split brain comes into the picture | 15:44 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Level 4: mesh applications (cross network vpn, relocation of workloads) | 15:45 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Level 5: can be space limitations | 15:45 |
| ad_ri3n_ | what do you think? | 15:45 |
| parus | What about storage? | 15:45 |
| ad_ri3n_ | you mean SWIFT like solution? | 15:45 |
| ad_ri3n_ | or storage for the workloads (i.e. to be able to boot them)? | 15:45 |
| parus | I see level 4e has something. | 15:46 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Level 1.f. | 15:46 |
| ad_ri3n_ | too | 15:46 |
| ad_ri3n_ | level 1 normal cloud, I want to use remote attached volume in one edge site | 15:46 |
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| parus | and 4c would cover chaining? | 15:47 |
| ad_ri3n_ | I believe that even before space limitations (i.e. openstack footprint | 15:47 |
| ad_ri3n_ | yes | 15:47 |
| ad_ri3n_ | exactly | 15:47 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Level 5 can be related to all advanced admin operations (zero provisionning | 15:47 |
| ad_ri3n_ | etc…) | 15:47 |
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| parus | How about failure/recovery? | 15:48 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | failure is cover in Level 3 | 15:48 |
| parus | 1000 nodes coming back online at the same time. | 15:48 |
| ad_ri3n_ | recovery is not cover yet | 15:48 |
| ad_ri3n_ | :D | 15:48 |
| ad_ri3n_ | advanced operations | 15:48 |
| ad_ri3n_ | Level 5 | 15:48 |
| ad_ri3n_ | :D | 15:48 |
| ad_ri3n_ | you are the FEMDC killer ;) | 15:48 |
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| parus | That sounds like a plan. | 15:48 |
| ad_ri3n_ | and then we conduct a gap analysis | 15:49 |
| ad_ri3n_ | according to | 15:49 |
| ad_ri3n_ | vanilla openstack | 15:49 |
| ad_ri3n_ | with remote compute nodes | 15:49 |
| ad_ri3n_ | federated keystone | 15:49 |
| ad_ri3n_ | regions | 15:49 |
| ad_ri3n_ | cells | 15:49 |
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| parus | Great plan! | 15:49 |
| ad_ri3n_ | I hope we can present a clean etherpad soon | 15:50 |
| ad_ri3n_ | If you want to help us ;) | 15:50 |
| ad_ri3n_ | you are more than welcome | 15:50 |
| ad_ri3n_ | (and if you have a better idea, same ;)) | 15:50 |
| parus | Let me get on a plane :-) | 15:50 |
| ad_ri3n_ | :-) | 15:50 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok I will keep you in touch soon | 15:50 |
| parus | +1 | 15:51 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok let's move forward I would like to discuss a bit the other points | 15:51 |
| ad_ri3n_ | is there any dragonflow folks? | 15:51 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | I'm not sure | 15:51 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok so let's move to the open discussion (I have nothing to add regarding the other points) | 15:52 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #topic ongoing-action-dragonflow | 15:52 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | Not discuss | 15:52 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | #topic ongoing-acton-p2p-ericsson | 15:53 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | not discuss | 15:53 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #topic open discussion | 15:53 |
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| msimonin | (dragonflow )I think kgiusti filled the pad l53 | 15:53 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | I want to higlight the vancouver CFP once again (already highlighted in the news) | 15:53 |
| ad_ri3n_ | it would be great if we can identify | 15:53 |
| ad_ri3n_ | what presentations can be submitted by the FEMDC group | 15:53 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | can we make a first roundtable ? | 15:54 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | @rcherrueau cockroach? | 15:54 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | @msimonin @kgiusti et al. AMQP ? | 15:54 |
| rcherrueau | ad_ri3n_: yes it could be a good idea. | 15:54 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | @parus use-case/gap analysis? | 15:55 |
| ad_ri3n_ | anything else? | 15:55 |
| parus | Anything on performance? | 15:55 |
| ad_ri3n_ | the AMQP evaluations I gues | 15:55 |
| kgiusti | msimonin: perhaps something around the AMQP eval? | 15:56 |
| ad_ri3n_ | cockroach can also incluse some performance | 15:56 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | please see the pad | 15:56 |
| ad_ri3n_ | I put some proposals | 15:56 |
| rcherrueau | parus: same for cockroach I guess | 15:56 |
| msimonin | kgiusti: oh yes this would be great | 15:56 |
| ad_ri3n_ | kgiusti: is there a link toward the PTG schedule please ? | 15:56 |
| kgiusti | I'd be willing to help present (if I can get travel) | 15:56 |
| msimonin | kgiusti: we can discuss this during our weekly session | 15:57 |
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| kgiusti | ad_ri3n_: I'm not aware of a detailed schedule yet - ansmith? | 15:57 |
| ad_ri3n_ | @parus will you come to the PTG? | 15:57 |
| parus | I am not confirmed yet. Trying to ! | 15:57 |
| ansmith | I have not seen | 15:57 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok | 15:58 |
| ad_ri3n_ | one minute left | 15:58 |
| ad_ri3n_ | anything else to mention? | 15:58 |
| kgiusti | ad_ri3n_: but just in terms of my availability I need to help run the oslo meeting (which I think is during the first two days)? | 15:58 |
| ad_ri3n_ | (please put it in the pad) | 15:58 |
| ad_ri3n_ | kgiusti: shame :( | 15:58 |
| ad_ri3n_ | it is a pitty we do not have the schedule | 15:58 |
| msimonin | ad_ri3n_: ttx sends a mail on the ml regarding the schedule (still struggling with it I gues) | 15:58 |
| ad_ri3n_ | because it is really difficult to synchronise the effort | 15:58 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | msimonin: thanks | 15:58 |
| ad_ri3n_ | ok time to conclude | 15:58 |
| parus | thanks | 15:58 |
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| ad_ri3n_ | ok thakns | 15:59 |
| ad_ri3n_ | talk to you next time | 15:59 |
| ad_ri3n_ | or by mail | 15:59 |
| ad_ri3n_ | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 15:59:29 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fog_edge_massively_distributed_clouds/2018/fog_edge_massively_distributed_clouds.2018-01-17-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fog_edge_massively_distributed_clouds/2018/fog_edge_massively_distributed_clouds.2018-01-17-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/fog_edge_massively_distributed_clouds/2018/fog_edge_massively_distributed_clouds.2018-01-17-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
| msimonin | thanks ad_ri3n_ | 15:59 |
| Marie_ | thanks | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | #startmeeting cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 16:00:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | o/ | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ aspiers jgriffith moshele hwalsh felipemonteiro | 16:00 |
| geguileo | hi! o/ | 16:00 |
| eharney | hey | 16:00 |
| xyang | hi | 16:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:00 |
| erlon | hey | 16:00 |
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| tommylikehu | hey | 16:01 |
| abishop | o/ | 16:01 |
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| e0ne | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 16:01 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (✧∇✧)╯ | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | Good start to a quorum here. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Hope everyone is well. | 16:02 |
| patrickeast | o/ | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, lets get started. | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | Queens review priorities: | 16:03 |
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| jgriffith | o/ | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:04 |
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| amito | (o/ not entirely present) | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | So, I just updated that list based on what I could find out in review.o.o and launchpad. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | If you have updates, please make them ASAP. | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | More on that later in the meeting. | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | The proposed Rocky schedule is now available: | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html | 16:05 |
| Swanson | Hello. | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | I am going to propose a patch to that, that will basically keep the same release schedule had for Queens if there are no objections. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: Moving slow in the cold? ;-) | 16:05 |
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| DuncanT | Another 6 month cycle? | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: Hey! | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Yep, no change there. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: Yes, couldn't get agreement on anything else. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | The train moves on. | 16:06 |
| e0ne | looks pretty the same as for Pike | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | e0ne: Exactly, so don't see a need to change things for Rocky. | 16:07 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: +1 | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyone disagree? | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Sounds good to me. | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj To propose schedule for Rocky based on the Queens schedule. | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | Last item for announcements is a reminder that the Dublin PTG Planning etherpad is up. If you are planning to go, please add your name | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | If you have topics, please add them. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-ptg-rocky | 16:09 |
| tommylikehu | great | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you for smcginnis for getting the link into the greater list of etherpads. :-) | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | I think that was all I had for announcements. | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Queens release schedule | 16:10 |
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| jungleboyj | #link https://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html | 16:10 |
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| jungleboyj | So, we are quickly approaching the end of Queens. | 16:10 |
| * jungleboyj wonders how that happened. | 16:10 | |
| * erlon is ready: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/0a/bc/c20abc45453fba99285395310a1e5e69.jpg | 16:10 | |
| jungleboyj | OMG, I dare you erlon | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | I gotta see taht. | 16:11 |
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| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:11 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: haha don't challange me :P | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | That's Scottish, not Irish. :) | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Shhhh, don't tell him that! | 16:11 |
| erlon | smcginnis: crap, spend a lot of money on that | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | So, Feature freeze is Friday 1/19 as is library Freeze. | 16:12 |
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| e0ne | erlon: :) | 16:12 |
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| e0ne | jungleboyj: do we have any multiattach-ralated patches in progress now? | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | I tried to get the remaining patches for os-brick through yesterday. I need to see if those merged. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: I will get to that. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | I should cut os-brick mid day tomorrow. | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | Client Library freeze is next Friday. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | Not sure where we are on client patches. I will look into that. | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Thursday! | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | I really would like to make sure that we don't let a release go out where the Client and Server MVs don't match. | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Freeze is always and has always been Thursday. | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Not sure why people never seem to remember that. :) | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Sorry. So that date on the list is actually the day after? | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Where? | 16:16 |
| Swanson | You aren't the boss of us, McGinnis! | 16:16 |
| tommylikehu | Swanson: lol | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: :P | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: The release page says Jan 21 to 26 is the freeze week. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | Yes, that is the freeze week. And deadlines are always on Thursday as noted in a few of the specific items. | 16:17 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. :-) thank you release master. | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | So, I stand corrected. | 16:18 |
| tbarron | smcginnis: you ought to send out weekly reminders about that stuff | 16:18 |
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| jungleboyj | Updated the notes in the meeting notes. | 16:18 |
| tbarron | :) | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | tbarron: Oh hush! | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | tbarron: :) | 16:18 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyway, moving on. If anyone knows of client code that needs to go in please get that up ASAP and make me aware of it. | 16:19 |
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| jgriffith | jungleboyj: yeah | 16:19 |
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| jgriffith | jungleboyj: I haven't had a chance to work on it, but the whole broken client AUTH_TYPE thing needs fixed | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Is there going to be anything related to multi-attach? | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: I think there is a patch for that out there. | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: Ideally I'd liek to get the mode patch finished and proposed this week | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | s/liek/like/ | 16:20 |
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| jgriffith | but figuring out the mv issues from the shell is going to slow me down even more than usual | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: That would be good. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | Gah, is that still out there? | 16:21 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj, jgriffith: is it https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532217/ a needed patch? | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | Let's fix it and revert it a few more times. | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: I'll test it now and if so +2/A it and remove my shell alias that does unset OS_AUTH_TYPE | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | I swear we've broken/fixed this at least 3 times now :) | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | At least. | 16:22 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: I'll added a reminer for myself to | 16:22 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: I'll added a reminer for myself to create functional tests for this | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Is that what you were talking about needing to fix though? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532217/ | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Looks like that might be it. | 16:23 |
| jgriffith | e0ne: jungleboyj smcginnis yep, that fixes it | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: That was how I interpreted it. | 16:23 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Great. I will take another look at that now that it has been updated. | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: oops :) | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | I already +2/A 'd it | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: WFM. | 16:24 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | WFM? | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | Work For Me | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | *Works | 16:24 |
| * jungleboyj can't type today. | 16:24 | |
| jgriffith | Ahh.. worried you meant WTF Man? | 16:24 |
| jgriffith | :) | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Not Well FU Man. | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | that's ok, I can't type ever | 16:25 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:25 |
| * jungleboyj shakes my head | 16:25 | |
| jungleboyj | Damn numb finger. | 16:25 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: yeah, that's kinda what I was thinking he meant :) | 16:25 |
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| jungleboyj | Yes, because I so often say that to you. ;-) | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | hehe | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | Anyway, so I am going to check the state of the os-brick patches, spin up a release and then take a look at where things are for the client. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | By tomorrow. | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj To spin os-brick release. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | Thursday. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | #action Get cinderclient patches merged ... brick-cinderclient-ext as well. | 16:27 |
| * jungleboyj ignores smcginnis | 16:27 | |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: FYI, we don't have opened brick-cinderclient-ext patches now | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: Ok, good. I didn't think we did but I wanted to verify. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Good point, we could do a final release for this cycle on that if we have unreleased things. | 16:28 |
| e0ne | I just checked it | 16:28 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I am not sure that we do. I did a release of that a bit ago and don't think anything new has gone in but will check. | 16:28 |
| xyang | so the deadline for both cinderclient and brick-cinderclient-ext is next Thursday? | 16:28 |
| e0ne | xyang: yes | 16:29 |
| xyang | ok | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Yep, Thursday. :) | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | #action Jay to do brick-cinderclient-ext release if necessary. | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: When? | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Just a requirements update: https://github.com/openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext/compare/0.7.0...master | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | Wednesday? | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | THURSDAY | 16:29 |
| jungleboyj | I love releasing on Saturday. | 16:30 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: do you mean Friday-Monday night? | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | #action release brick-cinderclient-ext by next THURSDAY | 16:30 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, lets stop beating the THURSDAY horse and move on. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | #topic Feature Freeze Concerns: | 16:31 |
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| jungleboyj | So, follow up on a few of the things in our review list that look like they are going to miss. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | We have Update cheesecake promotion specification | 16:32 |
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| jungleboyj | I don't see code for this anywhere. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | patrickeast: You know anything about this? | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | Or eharney ? I don't see jbernard around. | 16:33 |
| eharney | no | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, I am thinking that is one that is going to get pushed out to Rocky. I can move the spec. | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | Will put it as a discussion item for the PTG to see where that is at? | 16:34 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: jbernard coming to the PTG again? | 16:35 |
| eharney | yes | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj to move spec out and add discussion at the PTG. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Cool. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | transfer snapshots with volumes | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | The only code for this out there is a WIP. | 16:35 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: You were -2 on this. | 16:36 |
| eharney | i had some complaints on this one, it got updated a couple of days ago still as WIP... not sure about the current status | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, I will put at note in the review asking what is up. | 16:36 |
| jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj Follow up on state of the patch. | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | I would be willing to let that slip a little after FF if we can make progress on that. | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: smcginnis any arguments? | 16:37 |
| eharney | i'm a little concerned about the driver calls for that work, but it's been too long since i've looked at it, need to go study up on the spec again | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | I agree, I think that's kind of a bug we have that we should fix. | 16:37 |
| eharney | having it in general would be good though | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. So, lets see if we can work that one in. I need to look closer at that review. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | #action jungleboyj smcginnis eharney To work the patch through if possible. | 16:38 |
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| jungleboyj | Next provisioning improvements. | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Where is this at>? | 16:39 |
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| jungleboyj | paging erlon | 16:40 |
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| erlon | jungleboyj: hey, so, have finished the code, but have hit a hidding bug on unit tests :/ | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Ok ... | 16:41 |
| jungleboyj | Is there a WIP patch pushed up? | 16:41 |
| erlon | working activelly to get that ready | 16:41 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: we have some internal preocess to get things upstream, and that usually starts when the code is ready and passing our internal CI | 16:42 |
| erlon | Ill try to see there if I can get a version upstream | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Ok. | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thoughts on this one. Again, it is kind of a bug we are fixing up but also it seems like it could have broader impact. | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Is it close, or do you think the internal review will take long? | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: But yes, that's kind of an existing bug that I would agree we could still try to get in if possible. | 16:44 |
| erlon | smcginnis: its close, we have done the internall review actually, the only problem are that there are some tests not related to the change breaking | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Ok. | 16:44 |
| geguileo | erlon: is the unit test bug the only thing stopping the process from moving forward? | 16:44 |
| geguileo | erlon: can we help you with those? | 16:44 |
| erlon | smcginnis: if we pushing that upstream even with the problem people coud try to help, migh be a problem elsewhere | 16:44 |
| erlon | geguileo: yes | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable note. | 16:45 |
| geguileo | erlon: I can try to help you if you want, ping me on the channel and we can try to debug the issues | 16:45 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: smcginnis let me see what I can do to make that available ASAP | 16:45 |
| erlon | geguileo: thanks | 16:45 |
| geguileo | np | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | geguileo: Thanks! | 16:46 |
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| jungleboyj | So I would say that the two issues above can go in if we can get it done in the next week or so. | 16:46 |
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| jungleboyj | I would put Multi-attach in the same bucket. Not a train I think we should get in front of. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | So, work those and checkpoint next week. | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | Any concerns? | 16:47 |
| jungleboyj | Good, so I want to get to the next topic and make sure we don't run out of time. | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | #topic RBD encryption changes | 16:48 |
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| jungleboyj | eharney: | 16:48 |
| eharney | hey | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Hey. Take it away. | 16:48 |
| eharney | i've submitted some patches to enable encryption support in the RBD driver | 16:48 |
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| eharney | this is a feature that's been missing for quite a while, and it looks like things are lining up to land it in Queens | 16:49 |
| eharney | lyarwood has some Nova changes in flight to support this as well | 16:49 |
| eharney | there are three patches up for cinder -- i'm going to squash it down into two patches later today | 16:50 |
| eharney | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534811/ | 16:50 |
| smcginnis | I know I've been asked a few times about support for this, so I think it would be good to get in. | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Right. We have encryption for our other backends but not for the one that the most people use. | 16:51 |
| jungleboyj | That was why I am open to this. | 16:51 |
| eharney | yeah, it's been a fairly significant feature gap for a while | 16:51 |
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| eharney | so i'll update the patches in a bit, and start making sure we have all of the details documented about system-level requirements etc | 16:52 |
| jungleboyj | Haven't looked at the patches yet but you said you could keep them mostly in the RBD driver with only minor changes to the general code base? | 16:52 |
| eharney | yeah, the non-RBD driver patch is this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534810/ | 16:52 |
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| eharney | we need to pass a context object in create_volume() | 16:53 |
| eharney | pretty minor change, and it lines up with how a lot of other driver calls, so it seems good | 16:54 |
| eharney | how a lot of other driver calls work* | 16:54 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Which is something that is surprising we don't already do. | 16:54 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. As I mentioned earlier, the one request is that we get a spec for this addition put in place before we cut the release so that this is documented as an addition. | 16:54 |
| eharney | yep, i can do that | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | Cool. jgriffith smcginnis Any concerns with that? | 16:55 |
| smcginnis | Nope | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | eharney: Do you think you can do this by next Wednesday? | 16:55 |
| jungleboyj | At least get the code all worked up and merged in? | 16:55 |
| eharney | jungleboyj: yes | 16:56 |
| jungleboyj | Excellent. | 16:56 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic Cinder Shirts | 16:56 |
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| jungleboyj | So, I want back and looked at the notes from the PTG and it sounds like we all just wanted a shirt that had the new logo on the front. | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | Do people just want a T-Shirt with a large logo or a polo type shirt with a smaller logo? | 16:57 |
| jungleboyj | If we go the T-Shirt route I thought it might be cool to have 'Who manages your backend?" under the logo. | 16:58 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: can I have a T-shirt with the old logo on the front?:) | 16:58 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:59 |
| * jungleboyj laughs I saw that coming. | 16:59 | |
| smcginnis | Unrelated, but I wanted to bring it up in the meeting and we are out of time. Thanks eharney for fixing driverfixes unit test problems, and CFP for the Summit is open so think about any talks. | 16:59 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj: LOL, that's AWESOME | 16:59 |
| jungleboyj | xyang: I could maybe do some of those. I have no idea what the cost of these will be. Asked management at Lenovo if they might be willing to help cover some costs. No response yet. | 17:00 |
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| jungleboyj | jgriffith: I thought so! | 17:00 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: :) | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | So, lets take that discussion to the channel for those interested. | 17:00 |
| smcginnis | Time up. | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you team for a good meeting! | 17:00 |
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| jungleboyj | Lets get this release done! | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 17:00:59 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-01-17-16.00.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2018/cinder.2018-01-17-16.00.txt | 17:01 |
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| simon-AS559 | @mugsie Thanks for the courtesy ping; unfortunately I have another remote meeting every other week that collides with the Designate timeslot )-; Next week should be fine! | 17:17 |
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| Zara | anyone about for the... STORYBOARD MEETING? | 18:59 |
| Zara | it's that time again | 18:59 |
| SotK | o/ | 18:59 |
| * clarkb is lurking | 19:00 | |
| Zara | :D | 19:00 |
| Zara | #startmeeting StoryBoard | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 19:00:14 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Zara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:00 |
| Zara | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard | 19:00 |
| Zara | ^ agenda, looks like it's not updated for this week | 19:00 |
| Zara | hopefully will be a short one! :D | 19:00 |
| Zara | #topic Announcements | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 19:00 | |
| Zara | THERE ARE NONE, EXCELLENT WORK | 19:00 |
| Zara | #topic In-progress Work | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "In-progress Work (Meeting topic: StoryBoard)" | 19:01 | |
| Zara | I believe the agenda items are from last week, it notes story templates and launchpad migration | 19:01 |
| Zara | I guess jump in with things on those if you have them | 19:01 |
| Zara | so instead quick round up of things currently in review | 19:01 |
| Zara | dhellman has sent many, many patches to our docs! :D | 19:02 |
| Zara | since it's more than 10 I won't link them individually | 19:02 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack-infra/storyboard | 19:02 |
| Zara | ^ that is where they can be found | 19:02 |
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| Zara | they range from new content to theming to various formatting fixes | 19:02 |
| Zara | I'm very happy someone is taking time to update these and clean them up; thanks dhellman! :) | 19:03 |
| * persia is also very excited to see a new approach to the docs | 19:04 | |
| Zara | on the webclient side, we have some general updating afoot | 19:04 |
| Zara | mix of updating our existing packages in an effort to reduce the wall of deprecation warnings and replacing things with newer tooling | 19:05 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384554/ | 19:05 |
| Zara | ^ is one that could do with more eyes on it to check if it breaks anything | 19:05 |
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| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534424/ | 19:05 |
| Zara | ^ a wip for webpack (thanks mordred!) so we can see where things are headed there | 19:05 |
| mordred | \o/ | 19:06 |
| Zara | we also have other patches in need of review more generally | 19:06 |
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| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534461/ | 19:06 |
| Zara | hopefully fixes links displaying as links | 19:06 |
| Zara | I haven't got to reviewing that yet, but looks like nobody else has, so waving arms here! :D | 19:07 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/526219/ | 19:07 |
| Zara | needs more eeyes | 19:07 |
| Zara | aiui idea is so that project teams can link directly to that in case they want to fill some fields automatically | 19:08 |
| Zara | for templates etc | 19:08 |
| SotK | indeed | 19:08 |
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| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/530656/ | 19:08 |
| Zara | 'allow branches to be browsed by project id' | 19:08 |
| SotK | it also enables the construction of a link which will automatically create a private story with for example the VMT team added | 19:08 |
| Zara | ah yes I remember now | 19:09 |
| SotK | it also requires that change | 19:09 |
| Zara | aha I was about to say I know nothing about that change but assume it depends on it | 19:09 |
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| Zara | I think it went up when I was very distracted, sorry :) | 19:09 |
| Zara | anyone interested in bug templates and VMT support should review those changes, then | 19:09 |
| Zara | on the api side... | 19:10 |
| SotK | indeed it did | 19:10 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529433/ | 19:10 |
| Zara | zuul has a problem with this, I have no idea why, is a fix to a migration script | 19:10 |
| Zara | looked like it was just timeouts | 19:10 |
| Zara | maybe needs poking, maybe needs more rechecks | 19:11 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/533353/ | 19:11 |
| Zara | 'fallback to natural language search if syntax is bad' | 19:11 |
| Zara | I haven't looked at this at allllllll | 19:11 |
| SotK | hmm, we really should try to find time to properly solve that timeout issue | 19:11 |
| Zara | I like the idea of it though | 19:12 |
| Zara | yep | 19:12 |
| Zara | our tests are ugh | 19:12 |
| SotK | oh yeah I did that when I was vaguely bug triaging the other day | 19:12 |
| Zara | thanks :) | 19:12 |
| Zara | oh also I sent this | 19:12 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532367/ | 19:12 |
| Zara | that removes stuff about the vagrant setup | 19:13 |
| Zara | since nobody uses it or has used it in... 3 years? | 19:13 |
| Zara | I need to investigate why zuul is complaining | 19:13 |
| * fungi looks | 19:13 | |
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| Zara | it might've just been sent at a weird time, I remmeber there were some status messages going up in channel around then | 19:14 |
| Zara | though it's also possible there are some tests that expect it that I didn't remove | 19:14 |
| fungi | yeah, looks like tox_install_sibling_packages failed on all of them. recheck it | 19:14 |
| Zara | done! :) | 19:14 |
| Zara | thanks | 19:14 |
| Zara | #topic Open Discussion | 19:15 |
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| fungi | it was being refactored and a mistake slipped through | 19:15 |
| Zara | ah okay, thanks for catching that! :D | 19:15 |
| fungi | and our tests weren't correctly exercising that | 19:15 |
| fungi | or we would have caught it | 19:15 |
| Zara | it's a good way to find gaps. :) I raced through items so we know what's currently going on and people can pick the most interesting to talk about | 19:16 |
| Zara | so roundup complete, Openly Discuss away! :D | 19:16 |
| Zara | I'm trying not to focus on too many things personally so my own focus is on updating our packages, especially for the webclient | 19:17 |
| Zara | because I don't want to suddenly hit a wall with it when some transitive dependency is removed forever | 19:17 |
| fungi | i did bring the robots.txt topic up in the infra meeting yesterday. i think we're going to try rewriting the baked-in one on the production server and then see if goog indexes anything (or whether there's any performance impact) | 19:17 |
| Zara | cool, it will be interesting to see! :) I should be able to check for any strange performance | 19:18 |
| SotK | nice, hopefully it works better than expected | 19:18 |
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| fungi | yeah, not holding out much hope but we'll see | 19:18 |
| Zara | I'm wondering if it'll index the things at the api endpoints instead | 19:19 |
| fungi | entirely possible | 19:19 |
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| Zara | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/api/v1/stories/2000001 | 19:19 |
| Zara | (for anyone wondering what I mean by that, there's an example) | 19:19 |
| Zara | which could still be useful I suppose, though likely confusing for most :D | 19:20 |
| Zara | better than nothing | 19:20 |
| persia | As part of the general upgrade-all-the-components, is an upgrafde to newer angular also planned? That might help with the robots.txt bits. | 19:20 |
| Zara | hopefully updating more of the webclient more generally will make it more feasible to change our routing | 19:20 |
| persia | That's the first-ever bug filed in production after LP migrations started? Wow. Interesting artifact. | 19:21 |
| * fungi isn't webdev-savvy enough to know what "routing" means in this context anyway | 19:21 | |
| Zara | persia: I don't think we intend to change the angular version itself any time soon, but my hope is to update various packages we're using atm and steadily replace them with the newer ones | 19:21 |
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| persia | I believe "routing" means "determine what to do for a given URL": in the case of Storyboard, the ansewr is mostly "give the browser the webui, and have the webui consume the XML at the endpoint" | 19:22 |
| fungi | aha, got it | 19:22 |
| fungi | a decision tree of sorts | 19:22 |
| Zara | it's also some things like 'what to do when something hasn't loaded yet' | 19:22 |
| fungi | not unlike how traditional network routers operated | 19:22 |
| persia | Zara: The reason I asked is because I was pointed at features in angular2 that would server-side render the app, which might help in the crawler case. | 19:22 |
| SotK | we aren't likely to switch to angular (as opposed to angularjs/angular 1) any time soon, it would need a large amount of work | 19:22 |
| Zara | yeah, that's the issue, it's a very big change | 19:23 |
| Zara | we'd *like* it to be 2, but I don't think there's anyone around who can take that on atm | 19:23 |
| Zara | I want it to be 2 because then I could read the code | 19:24 |
| persia | fungi: Likely more important for cases where something in the middle is the break between "path" and "data", e.g.: "http://example.org/programs/myexecutable.cgi/widgets/suppliers/index/" | 19:24 |
| fungi | maybe mordred's secretly scheming to work on that ;) | 19:24 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/384554/ | 19:24 |
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| Zara | shows some routing things if curious | 19:24 |
| Zara | the js changes | 19:24 |
| fungi | cool! | 19:24 |
| Zara | possibly not done right since I was mostly pattern matching from docs, but it's that kiiiind of thing | 19:25 |
| fungi | well, there are _worse_ places to take usage examples from than the documentation for the framework you're trying to use, i suppose | 19:25 |
| Zara | :) I think historically we used a separate package for page routes because there wasn't one built into angular | 19:25 |
| Zara | then later on one was built in | 19:25 |
| Zara | but I came to things way later and can barely write js | 19:25 |
| fungi | sounds likely | 19:25 |
| fungi | the angular growing one in its stdlib thing, not your js proficiency | 19:26 |
| persia | SotK: Ah. I was confused by the name. When the first suggestion in results for "upgrade from angularjs to angular" is "rewrite your app", I appreciate that this may not happen. | 19:26 |
| fungi | you're far more effective at this than i could hope to be | 19:26 |
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| Zara | hahaha dw :) so in general there are some design decisions that made sense at the time but would be very strange to make now :) | 19:26 |
| Zara | persia: there's both angular 1 and angular 2, 2 isn't backwards compatible with 1, and both have.. microversions? | 19:27 |
| Zara | so 'upgrade angular' could also mean '1.5 to 1.whatever' and that'd be fine | 19:27 |
| persia | Or even just "versions" :) Yes. I appreciate that now, in a way that I did not at the start of the meeting. | 19:27 |
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| SotK | and "2" is now just "angular", because it is up to something like 4 | 19:28 |
| persia | In the case of 384554, it's a downgrade from 1.6.7 to 1.5.8, as a handy example of changing version while staying within the same epoch. | 19:28 |
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| Zara | ('we should move to angular 2' is kinda a running joke because the reason it was rewritten was it was so tough to use) | 19:28 |
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| Zara | angular 1 terminology is verrrry dense and angular1-specific imo) | 19:29 |
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| Zara | (but I'm biased because I generally have no idea what's going on) | 19:29 |
| Zara | (sotk's a better authority on that one) | 19:29 |
| Zara | anyyyway | 19:30 |
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| Zara | please check that patch with some logging in and logging out and navigating in both states, an earlier local draft hit bugs when logging out | 19:31 |
| Zara | it'd be extra great if someone could test it with token expiry | 19:31 |
| * SotK will do some testing at some point | 19:32 | |
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| Zara | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000407 | 19:32 |
| Zara | may be helpful for directions | 19:32 |
| Zara | right at the end of that description are the steps we took to check access token interaction last time | 19:33 |
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| Zara | anyone have anything else to discuss? | 19:33 |
| SotK | I don't think I have anything pressing | 19:34 |
| Zara | I'm really happy so many people are helping out with patches and review in general! :D | 19:34 |
| Zara | it is very motivational | 19:35 |
| Zara | so thanks everyone for that | 19:35 |
| Zara | I don't have anything else personally, I have a wall of review | 19:35 |
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| persia | Indeed. I think I've thought about Storyboard more this week than I have otherwise for a couple months. | 19:35 |
| Zara | :) | 19:36 |
| Zara | in that case, I will end the meeting! | 19:37 |
| Zara | #endmeeting | 19:37 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 19:37:07 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-01-17-19.00.html | 19:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-01-17-19.00.txt | 19:37 |
| Zara | thanks, all! :D | 19:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2018/storyboard.2018-01-17-19.00.log.html | 19:37 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 17 21:00:10 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
| kota_ | hi | 21:00 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| rledisez | good (morning|afternoon|evening) o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | rledisez: what about the night time? | 21:01 |
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| rledisez | yeah, my bad good night everybody :) | 21:01 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:01 |
| acoles | hello | 21:01 |
| joeljwright | hello | 21:01 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:03 |
| notmyname | welcome | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | there's been a ton of stuff landing since our last meeting. great work! | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:03 |
| mattoliverau | Or you could use UGT time then we can all say good morning | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | there's the agenda for this week | 21:04 |
| joeljwright | good morning! | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | mostly I want to review stuff for the 2.17.0 release | 21:04 |
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| torgomatic | hi | 21:04 |
| notmyname | #topic next release | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 21:05 |
| notmyname | nearly everything on there is marked off | 21:05 |
| notmyname | patch 532383 | 21:05 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532383/ - swift - Don't make async_pendings during object expiration | 21:05 |
| notmyname | ...is open | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | as is the data segments in SLOs patch 365371 | 21:05 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365371/ - swift - Add support for data segments to SLO and Segmented... | 21:05 |
| notmyname | unless there's any other major bugs or blockers, I'd like to see those land and then tag the release | 21:06 |
| joeljwright | I think timburke addressed all the outstanding issues on 365371 | 21:06 |
| acoles | I will look at p 532383 again tomorrow, most likely +A | 21:06 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532383/ - swift - Don't make async_pendings during object expiration | 21:06 |
| notmyname | acoles: thanks | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | joeljwright: yeah, I think it's just that people have been (rightly) reviewing the expiry patches | 21:06 |
| joeljwright | +1 | 21:07 |
| notmyname | I've got the start of the authors/changelog patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534528/ | 21:07 |
| patchbot | patch 534528 - swift - WIP | 21:07 |
| notmyname | thanks to clayg and timburke for the comments so far | 21:07 |
| notmyname | I'll update those today or tomorrow, and add info about the other patches that have landed | 21:08 |
| notmyname | any questions on the mechanics or logistics of this release? | 21:08 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: we'll get to your question next | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | ok, let's move on to torgomatic's question then :-) | 21:09 |
| notmyname | #topic checkpoint release? | 21:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "checkpoint release? (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:10 | |
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| notmyname | torgomatic: would you like to introduce it? | 21:10 |
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| torgomatic | right now, we've got to consider rolling cluster upgrades across all past versions, and that makes things more difficult | 21:10 |
| torgomatic | I'd like to introduce some cutoffs where we don't allow upgrades from any old version to the latest, but make you go through some intermediate steps first | 21:11 |
| torgomatic | or, at least, to talk about doing that | 21:11 |
| notmyname | thanks. what does everything think? what questions do you have? | 21:12 |
| torgomatic | One way is checkpoint releases: you have some releases C1, C2, etc. and you can upgrade from any version v < C1 to C1, then any version v <= C1 < C2 to C2, and so on | 21:12 |
| notmyname | (it's a big question, IMO, so I'd expect us to talk about it for a while) | 21:12 |
| torgomatic | (sorry, I have the slow fingers today) | 21:12 |
| torgomatic | anyhow, this came up in the context of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534749/ , where we have a rolling-upgrade compatibility issue with proxies from 2013 and earlier | 21:13 |
| patchbot | patch 534749 - swift - Preserve expiring object behaviour with old proxy-... | 21:13 |
| acoles | would it lose us the openstack upgrade tag thing? I forget the correct terminology | 21:13 |
| notmyname | acoles: that depends on how we role out the idea | 21:14 |
| notmyname | *roll | 21:14 |
| torgomatic | I think we'd keep it as long as you could perform a rolling upgrade to the latest checkpoint release. (That's a property I very much want to keep, FWIW) | 21:14 |
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| mattoliverau | Going from any to the latest us obvious is a big selling point, but alot of extra effort as me do more and more releases. | 21:16 |
| notmyname | aside from the patch you just linked, are there other places where "upgrade straight to latest" is currently obviously hurting us? | 21:16 |
| torgomatic | Checkpoints aren't the only way to go; we could define a window where you can upgrade from the last N minor versions or the last Y years | 21:16 |
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| torgomatic | notmyname: once we land Pete Zaitcev's improvements to the object PUT path, we still have to keep all that old protocol stuff in the proxy forever | 21:16 |
| acoles | one advantage I see is that we are reaching the point where we may not have the collective memory to realise when we let an upgrade issue slip in | 21:17 |
| notmyname | those are both very good points | 21:17 |
| notmyname | kota_: rledisez: joeljwright: what are your thoughts? | 21:18 |
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| rledisez | I understand the need, and i'm not against the idea. i'm concerned about for how long (in month/years) would you support an upgrade path? | 21:19 |
| joeljwright | it sounds reasonable to me, although we always did staged updates anyway | 21:19 |
| rledisez | i would say the minimum is a year, probably 2 is better, or to try to sync with some major distro release interval | 21:20 |
| kota_ | not opposite opinion but a bit worried about how frequently we should care about the checkpoint. I don't expect it'll happen every release. | 21:20 |
| kota_ | rledisez: it seems i'm with you. | 21:20 |
| mattoliverau | It would be good to have stats on how often, people upgrade.. because having a wide enough gap would be good. Say every 3 or 4 years.. or by versions maybe? (Every 2 major versions) | 21:20 |
| notmyname | based on the conversation in -swift a few hours ago, I'd said that we needed to make sure a 2 year-old release has supported upgrades but a 4 year-old one seemed like long enough to not worry too mcuh | 21:20 |
| torgomatic | Yeah, a couple years at minimum for upgrades IMO. | 21:20 |
| joeljwright | torgomatic: +1 | 21:21 |
| acoles | I assumed we were talking in terms of years | 21:21 |
| notmyname | seems we're all in agreement on the unit to measure it | 21:21 |
| mattoliverau | Ever couple of major versions would be easy for people to remember.. and represent major API changes | 21:21 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: for all those major version bumps and API updates we do? ;-) | 21:22 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah.. but the difference would be we coild | 21:22 |
| mattoliverau | Could.. | 21:22 |
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| notmyname | in my mind, we started with swift 1.x. we got to 2.x with storage policies. we'll hit 3.x with a rewrite of the storage layer (eg protocols, new language, etc) | 21:23 |
| notmyname | however, that's getting a bit off-topic :-) | 21:23 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: help me out here. fi we decided to make a checkpoint at 2.17 and we agreed to support upgrades for 2 years, how long do we support 2.16 features? how long do we support 2.17? 2.18? | 21:24 |
| mattoliverau | Your welcome | 21:24 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: user-facing features? Pretty much forever, like we do now. | 21:25 |
| notmyname | ( rledisez: LOSF is part of that storage layer update, too ;) ) | 21:25 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: ok. upgrades then? | 21:25 |
| torgomatic | If we made 2.17 a checkpoint, then in a couple of years we'd make another checkpoint at, say, 2.34, and then another one at 2.60 in another couple years, and so on | 21:26 |
| notmyname | if someone has 2.16 installed, then what? | 21:26 |
| timburke | another way of looking at it: how far back will we feel comfortable removing cruft between 2.17 and 2.18? | 21:26 |
| torgomatic | so then in five years' time, that person with 2.16 would have to upgrade 2.16 -> 2.17 -> 2.34 -> 2.60 to get to the latest | 21:26 |
| torgomatic | and in this case, after we made 2.34 a checkpoint, 2.34.1 could remove compatibility cruft for anything 2.17 -> 2.18 | 21:27 |
| notmyname | ok, It hink I got it | 21:27 |
| notmyname | the difference with a time-based method is that we support eg anything that was released 2 years ago | 21:27 |
| notmyname | calendar-based | 21:28 |
| notmyname | so in 2018 we drop support for upgrading from anything released in 2015 | 21:28 |
| notmyname | that sort of thing | 21:28 |
| notmyname | the difference is that deployers would need to be on a (very slow moving) upgrade train | 21:28 |
| notmyname | right? | 21:28 |
| torgomatic | no, deployers could still wait a long time | 21:29 |
| torgomatic | when they did decide to upgrade, they'd just have to upgrade several times to get to the latest | 21:29 |
| acoles | we would only be dropping support for upgrading *directly* from 2015 to 2018 releases right? | 21:29 |
| notmyname | right | 21:29 |
| notmyname | acoles: right | 21:29 |
| torgomatic | yes | 21:29 |
| acoles | right! | 21:29 |
| rledisez | an example: what about the renaming of .durable to #d for EC? should it be converted before moving on with version or will it be maintained forever? | 21:30 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: deployers could only upgrade, at most, to something released 2 years after their current version | 21:30 |
| torgomatic | notmyname: yes | 21:30 |
| notmyname | ok. just making sure the different methods are spelled out for everyone (myself included!) | 21:30 |
| torgomatic | rledisez: that one, we'd probably have to keep forever since we don't automatically convert things | 21:31 |
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| timburke | what all would be in-scope for breaking? backend protocols, sure; client APIs, definitely not -- what about operator-facing things like https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/2.16.0/swift/common/manager.py#L724-L727 | 21:31 |
| torgomatic | on-disk data formats live forever, storage-node and replication protocols live a couple years | 21:31 |
| rledisez | ^ seems reasonable | 21:32 |
| * kota_ is wondering, it may make us to remove rolling container db scheme change for creating storage policy??? | 21:32 | |
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| acoles | rledisez: torgomatic +! and good clarification, on disk data always supported | 21:33 |
| timburke | oh yeah, speaking of JIT migrations -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502529/ | 21:33 |
| patchbot | patch 502529 - swift - Create policy_stat table in auditor if missing | 21:33 |
| notmyname | here's what I think we should do: ask any further questions about generally how it works, go and sleep on it, and come back together later to talk about specifics or if we even like the idea | 21:33 |
| notmyname | I don't think we need to get into "what about lines 200-210 in this module" right now ;-) | 21:33 |
| timburke | notmyname: i was just grepping for 'compat' :-) | 21:33 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:34 |
| notmyname | no, they're important to ask | 21:34 |
| timburke | see what broad classes of things are out there | 21:34 |
| notmyname | I want to make sure everyone feels they understand the idea of time-based vs checkpoint releases for dropping compatibility | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | are there any questions? do you (everyone) feel good enough with the concept to explain it to your boss? | 21:35 |
| notmyname | if not, ask now! | 21:35 |
| notmyname | if so, let's each go ponder it for a bit. not to try to slow down conversation too much, but this may be an interesting topic for the PTG | 21:35 |
| mattoliverau | +1 ptg topic | 21:36 |
| notmyname | +1 if youre' good with it | 21:36 |
| kota_ | notmyname: sorry, i have to wait my boss waking up :P | 21:36 |
| joeljwright | :D | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | Lol | 21:36 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:36 |
| kota_ | notmyname: let me confirm on the mean you said *vs* between time-based and checkpoint | 21:36 |
| timburke | i'm still wondering whether something like https://github.com/openstack/swift/commit/ebf0b22 would be in scope for removal post-2.17 or not... | 21:37 |
| notmyname | kota_: versus. meaning that you know the differences between the two and how they relate | 21:37 |
| kota_ | yeah, and... i may be missing the context or the summary here.... (scrolling back to the log...) | 21:37 |
| notmyname | kota_: I just want to check that you understand both and can think on it for a while in order to figure out what it means for the codebase | 21:38 |
| kota_ | notmyname: got it | 21:38 |
| notmyname | FWIW, I'm not totally sold on the idea, nor am I rushing to make our next release a checkpoint one. but I love the conversation, and I'm happy to be convinced either way (doing a checkpoint or not) | 21:39 |
| kota_ | thx | 21:39 |
| notmyname | kota_: I normally try to leave out idioms and colloquialisms. it's my fault. thanks for asking me to clarify | 21:39 |
| kota_ | ok ok. I'm sure I can explain the concept and discuss what we (in company) want! | 21:40 |
| notmyname | #topic updates on current work | 21:40 |
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| timburke | soemthing tells me this discussion will continue into Dublin... | 21:40 |
| notmyname | let's review some ongoing work | 21:40 |
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| notmyname | container sharding | 21:40 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: acoles: ? | 21:40 |
| acoles | progress continues... | 21:41 |
| notmyname | anything blocking you that the rest of us can help with? | 21:41 |
| acoles | since last week we decided to reduce scope on listings while sharding is in progress | 21:41 |
| acoles | which has helped | 21:41 |
| notmyname | great! | 21:41 |
| acoles | I have a long patch chain that would be great to get merged, mattoliverau and timburke are helping with that | 21:42 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:42 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: timburke: anything to add? | 21:42 |
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| mattoliverau | And people should join in discussions on Trello or etherpad if there interested | 21:42 |
| acoles | oh, today I started another etherpad to start to doc the internal API changes, maybe help newcomers | 21:43 |
| mattoliverau | Nice | 21:43 |
| acoles | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/deep-containers-apis | 21:43 |
| acoles | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/deep-containers-apis | 21:43 |
| notmyname | thanks | 21:44 |
| mattoliverau | My week hasn't been the most shard friendly week, but will hopefully spend more time post release reviews (my time is limited :() | 21:44 |
| clayg | i was catching up on checkpoint releases | 21:44 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: and you'll be at lca next week, right? so not too much hands-on-keyboard time there | 21:45 |
| acoles | BTW, all sharding docs are linked from https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/deep-containers | 21:45 |
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| acoles | so that is the mother-ship ^^ | 21:45 |
| mattoliverau | Yup LCA next week \o/ | 21:45 |
| clayg | I hate to say that if you're running swift from 2015 upgrading to master isn't exactly something I'd have a high confidence in going great anyway... it's more about putting a name to reality | 21:45 |
| notmyname | acoles: I added a link to that parent etherpad to the ideas wiki | 21:46 |
| notmyname | kota_: any progress on s3api this week? | 21:46 |
| kota_ | i update the logger patch according to tim's comment, and waiting his review | 21:46 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:47 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: rledisez: any updates for us on the task queue? | 21:47 |
| timburke | i knew there was another patch i should review! | 21:47 |
| kota_ | on the functional, I 've started to make sure what's the status of tdasilva | 21:47 |
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| kota_ | since yesterday | 21:47 |
| m_kazuhiro | I'm working at patch 517389 | 21:47 |
| patchbot | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/517389/ - swift - Update object-expirer to use general task queue sy... | 21:47 |
| m_kazuhiro | I implemented all tests so I removed 'WIP' from the patch. | 21:48 |
| kota_ | nice | 21:48 |
| notmyname | nice | 21:48 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: anything currently blocking you, aside from reviews? | 21:49 |
| m_kazuhiro | Nothing. Review is what I want. | 21:50 |
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| notmyname | rledisez: how's progress on LOSF work? | 21:50 |
| rledisez | pretty good. we should make a (big) move to put the code on production in the next 2 or 3 weeks | 21:51 |
| mattoliverau | Wow | 21:51 |
| rledisez | so, we may be running a whole on production wiht LOSF by the next PTG | 21:52 |
| mattoliverau | Cool | 21:52 |
| notmyname | that is "wow" :-) | 21:52 |
| notmyname | speaking of the PTG... | 21:52 |
| rledisez | also, a new developer will join our team in march, he will assist alexandre in upstreaming the code | 21:52 |
| notmyname | that's coming up soon | 21:52 |
| notmyname | rledisez: cool | 21:52 |
| notmyname | the PTG is at the end of february | 21:53 |
| notmyname | I'd like to start organizing topics in two weeks | 21:53 |
| clayg | rledisez: I haven't heard anything about how alexandre ended up dealing with the eventlet + grpc issues he was dealing with? | 21:54 |
| notmyname | also, I'll be out next wednesday. would someone like to run the meeting? or would you like to skip it? | 21:54 |
| mattoliverau | Well really you'll just be on my time | 21:54 |
| mattoliverau | But I'll be busy so happy to akio | 21:55 |
| mattoliverau | *skip | 21:55 |
| rledisez | clayg: right now there is no real solution. we pinned a specific version of grpc that works (partialy, but enough for us) with eventlet. that's not a long term solution. either droping eventlet or changing grpc for another protocol is the way to go | 21:56 |
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| notmyname | I think everyone already logged off. so that answers that about skipping next week :-) | 21:57 |
| joeljwright | :) | 21:57 |
| notmyname | meet again in two weeks. jan 31, 2100UTC | 21:57 |
| notmyname | thanks for your work on swift. thanks for coming today | 21:58 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 17 21:58:16 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-01-17-21.00.html | 21:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-01-17-21.00.txt | 21:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2018/swift.2018-01-17-21.00.log.html | 21:58 |
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