Wednesday, 2017-09-20

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zhiyuanhi yipei and zhuangzhuang01:00
YipeiHi01:00
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xuzhuanghi01:01
joehuanghi01:01
zhiyuan#startmeeting tricircle01:01
dongfenghi01:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 20 01:01:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zhiyuan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.01:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.01:01
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zhiyuan#topic integrate with cellv201:02
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zhiyuanyesterday I downloaded the newest devstack and nova code and tried to integrate with them01:03
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zhiyuanthere are some changes in the devstack code for the nova cellv2 deployment so our plugin.sh needs some modifications01:04
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joehuangyes, WSGI support is a common goal for all OpenStack projects01:05
joehuangin pike release01:05
joehuangthis change may affect tricircle's integration with cells V201:05
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zhiyuanI have done the modification and tested it. Shall we directly update the plugin.sh and our document?01:07
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RonghUIsorry for late, the network is a little poor01:07
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zhiyuannever mind, ronghui01:08
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zhiyuanI just have concern that some users may use an old version of devstack and nova01:10
RonghUIa little more detail?01:11
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zhiyuanoh, we are discussing the integration with cellv2. some devstack scripts have been changed so we also need to update our plugin.sh and document01:12
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RonghUIno problem, also some little problem in our document and need to modify01:13
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joehuangI think we have created branch01:15
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joehuangfor the master branch, it should work with nova master code01:15
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joehuangso we may send a notification in mail-list about this change?01:17
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RonghUIagree01:18
zhiyuanfine, I will submit the patch for the change today01:19
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zhiyuanI see this link: https://docs.openstack.org/tricircle/pike/ so I think the old version of document is also kept01:20
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zhiyuan#topic feature progress01:22
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xuzhuangfor default sg update, if we use sync methodes(prefer asyn),I think only need to delete the exceptions when update defaulte sg. I want to know if I miss something else?01:22
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Yipeifor lbaas, i am fixing the local network case, and preparing the configuration guide01:24
zhiyuansince we already have a job to sync security group rules, I think it will better to change the security group update to an aync way01:25
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RonghUIfor qos, both net and port binding when vm creating is finished. The case, network /port binding before vm creating just finished last night and when vm creating, it also building qos and rule in local01:26
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xuzhuangyeah, i also prefer asyn, i just want know if my thought exits some problems(for sync method)01:27
zhiyuanalso we need to test what will happen if we specify two remote-ip-prefix ranges that overlap01:27
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RonghUIwe try our best to let the qos feature publish on queen-1 :)01:28
dongfengI'm still work on tricircle client job pagination. 1'll update it recently.01:28
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zhiyuanto zhuangzhuang, the exception for udpating remote_group_id field needs to be kept01:30
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zhiyuanto yipei, have problem about the local network case?01:31
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xuzhuangyes, i mean delete the exception of "sg.name==default"01:31
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Yipeinot tested yet, i think LBaaS in multiple regions should not be applied to the local network case01:32
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zhiyuanto ronghui, good, so the left cases are qos deletion, qos rules update and qos unbind?01:33
RonghUIno qos deletion and qos unbind is also finished01:34
RonghUIso left case is update01:34
zhiyuanto zhuangzhuang, ok then01:34
xuzhuangok, thanks01:34
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zhiyuanfine, hopefully qos can be landed in queens-101:34
RonghUIand there is one problem01:34
RonghUIif qos binding with net , then we create a port in this net01:35
RonghUIthe port should also binding with this qos ?01:35
Yipeialready installed a new environment to test LBaaS and finish configuration guide01:35
RonghUIand this case we have not test01:35
zhiyuanto yipei, agree, so we need a way to tell users that they cannot add a member in local network in region1 to LB in region201:36
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Yipeito zhiyuan, yes, i think so01:37
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zhiyuanI think after you adding the local network check for get_subnet, adding a member in the above case will fail, but with a 404 error?01:37
zhiyuan404 for subnet not found01:38
Yipeito zhiyuan, good idea, i will fix it01:39
zhiyuanto ronghui, binding a qos to network doesn't imply that the ports in this network are also bound, I think01:39
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zhiyuanIt will be better if you can return a 400 error, but I think it's not easy, we cannot touch the octavia code01:41
RonghUIif the network have been binding with one qos , the new port creating after this binding , so this port needn't bound qos?01:41
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zhiyuanI think so, you can have a try on the original neutron server. Bind a network with qos, and see if the ports in that network are also bound.01:43
RonghUIok01:43
Yipeito zhiyuan, for returning a 400 error, i will try anyway01:44
zhiyuanthanks yipei01:45
zhiyuan#open discussion01:46
zhiyuan#topic open discussion01:46
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zhiyuanany other topics?01:46
RonghUIyes01:46
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xuzhuangyesterday I deploy a multi pods,and used "openstack security group rule delete" deleted a sg rule with "remote group id" successly. I am confused about this, the code in tricircl will raise a exeception when delete a sg rule with "remote group id"(is going into neutron codes?)01:46
zhiyuanthe rule is in default security group?01:49
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xuzhuangyeah01:49
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RonghUIA good news. There are some new friends from SZZT Electronics. corp and also interesting in Tricircle, and will join our team for develop :)  PS: Changsha SZZT Cloud Ltd. is a wholly-owned subsidiaries of SZZT Electronics. Corp, which concentrates on cloud computing and IDC technology.01:50
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zhiyuanhmm, could you check whether delete_security_group_rule in tricircle is called?01:51
xuzhuangok01:52
RonghUIand these guy is also in our meeting now01:52
joehuanggood news01:52
zhiyuangreat!01:52
joehuangwelcome to join the team!01:52
RonghUIMost members of they are all from HUAWEI or ZTE.01:52
songhi nice to meet everyone. i am song work for szzt company now.i am glad to work with this project from now on.01:52
joehuangcool01:53
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zhiyuanawesome, have you tried installing tricircle yet?01:54
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RonghUIand my teacher Tang zhuo is also the vice president of SZZT Electronics. Corp01:55
songi am recently study the doc for tricircle01:56
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songand will install it a little later on01:57
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zhiyuanyou can ping us in #openstack-tricircle or the openstack-dev maillist if you have any questions :)01:59
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ztanghello all01:59
joehuangmail-list discussion is a good way to open to all01:59
songoh good !thank you!01:59
joehuanghi, ztang01:59
cyghi nice to meet everyone. i am Chen Yaguang. I'm working for szzt company now.01:59
ztangToday, I invite my team in SZZT to join our project.01:59
joehuangnice to meet you Yaguang02:00
joehuangwelcome, ztang02:00
zhiyuanwelcome!02:00
zjtmy name is Zhu Jintao, Nice to meet you.02:00
zhiyuansorry to interrupt, but I think time's up for the meeting, we can move to openstack-tricircle02:01
joehuanghi, JIntao02:01
ztangThe new member of SZZT are of the core programer at the IAAS department, they are familar with Openstack02:01
joehuangsounds great02:02
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ztang_The new joined members of SZZT are of the core programers at the IAAS department, they are familar with Openstack02:02
ztang_I hope they can achieve good results in the Tricircle02:03
joehuangfor sure02:03
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zhiyuanso let's make tricircle better and better together!02:04
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songyes, work together make it better an better.02:05
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zhiyuanlet's move to openstack-tricircle channel, I am ending this meeting02:07
RonghUIok02:07
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zhiyuan#endmeeting02:07
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Yipeibye02:08
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songbye02:08
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gongysh#startmeeting tacker04:30
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 20 04:30:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gongysh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:30
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:30
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gongysh#topic roll call04:31
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gongyshhi04:31
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gongyshwho are you guys here for tacker meeting?04:31
tbh_o/04:32
tbh_hi gongysh04:32
phuoco/04:32
phuochi everyone04:32
gongyshhi04:32
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gongyshwe will start at  12:3504:33
gongysh#topic bp04:35
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gongyshI have to leave after 30 mins04:36
YanXing_ano/04:36
jankio/04:36
gongyshso we will have a short meeting04:36
gongyshfirst thing I want to talk is bp in queens-1 milestone.04:37
gongysh#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker04:37
gongyshphuoc, hi04:37
gongyshservice-assurance-engine is replaced by vnffg-healing and vnffg-scaling, right?04:38
YanXing_ani will commit some BPs these days04:38
phuochi gongysh04:38
phuocthat's right04:38
gongyshok, I will remove service-assurance-engine and put those into queens04:38
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digao/04:40
gongyshphuoc, I have moved vnffg-healing and vnffg-scaling into queens04:40
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gongyshphuoc are you guys still working on them?04:40
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phuocgongysh, thanks04:41
phuocWe are working on that, but we have some problems need to figure out04:41
gongyshok, thanks04:42
gongyshYanXing_an, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/vnffg-ns04:42
gongyshwhat is the progress?04:42
YanXing_ansome delay on this04:42
gongyshYanXing_an, we should work under moonlights to finish it.04:43
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gongyshfor the bp, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/mistral-monitor-policy04:44
diga YanXing_an, I hope nobody has started working on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/indirect-mode-vnfm04:44
YanXing_anyeh, i will have time in these weeks04:44
digagongysh: YanXing_an, can i start on this ?04:44
gongyshI will try to upload the codes these weekends.04:45
YanXing_andiga, i just put the paper in google doc04:45
gongyshdiga, yes you can04:45
digaYanXing_an: okay, can you share the link04:45
gongyshdiga, but I think you should investigate osm first.04:46
YanXing_anhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWj_k6Ctpr61N-GKsdfAq_YKnP83L6h7wHFKma8ahXI/edit?usp=sharing04:46
YanXing_anhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWj_k6Ctpr61N-GKsdfAq_YKnP83L6h7wHFKma8ahXI/edit?usp=sharing04:46
YanXing_anhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWj_k6Ctpr61N-GKsdfAq_YKnP83L6h7wHFKma8ahXI/edit?usp=sharing04:46
YanXing_anhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWj_k6Ctpr61N-GKsdfAq_YKnP83L6h7wHFKma8ahXI/edit?usp=sharing04:46
YanXing_anhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWj_k6Ctpr61N-GKsdfAq_YKnP83L6h7wHFKma8ahXI/edit?usp=sharing04:46
digaYanXing_an: so that we can break out things in pieces to get started04:46
gongyshand have a report on the google doc.04:46
digagongysh: okay04:46
YanXing_anhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/14Nc9jV1XbodoI1uuuAU1aMrhCPWBFAAbPh2TRb5U2t8/edit?usp=sharing04:46
digaYanXing_an: Thanks04:46
gongyshdiga,  thanks04:46
YanXing_antwo links04:46
gongyshlast week, I have put two small bps04:47
gongyshhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/split-tacker-install-from-vim-target04:47
digagongysh: I will go through it04:47
gongyshhope everyone here to read it and to know what tacker system is.04:47
gongyshwhat vim is.04:48
gongyshtacker can be installed from its managed vim.04:48
gongyshthat is the essential part the BP want to say.04:49
digaokay04:49
gongyshtacker can be installed independent from its managed vims.04:49
gongyshanother small bp is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/kolla-deploy-tacker04:49
gongyshwhich will help new comers to set up a tacker system easily.04:50
gongyshyou guys can have a tacker system with this document quickly.04:51
gongyshit is stabler than devstack way.04:51
gongyshone new bp: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/containerised-vnfs04:52
longkb_o/04:52
gongyshI have reviewed04:52
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phuocjanki, gongysh: I will make a new bp for K8s as VIM, separate with this one04:53
digagongysh: lots of BPs for queens :)04:53
gongyshjanki, maybe you can first write a doc about how to set up a k8s first.04:53
phuocIf the process is good, containerised vnfs bp is the next step04:53
jankigongysh, lets first emphasis on writing the bp..04:54
phuocfor supporting k8s type of c-VNF04:54
gongyshphuoc, so your k8s vim is the first step, and then we will have containerised-vnfs.04:54
jankigongysh, yes, exactly04:54
gongyshok04:55
jankiphuoc, ^04:55
phuocjanki, we need more meeting to define all requirements :)04:55
gongyshplease keep active involvement, make the job forwards.04:56
jankiphuoc, can you reply to our mail suggesting a time?04:56
gongysh#topic open discussion04:56
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phuocjanki, sure I will do it asap :)04:57
gongyshtalk something if you have04:57
jankiphuoc, ack..04:57
digagongysh: I believe call for paper for next summit is opened04:57
gongyshwhat summit?04:58
gongyshyou mean vancouver summit?04:58
digayeah04:58
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gongyshdiga, do you have link?04:59
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digaI got a mail on cinder maillist, may be we shoiuld keep an eye on these things05:00
digagongysh: will send me details, it was just a mail, need to find a link05:00
gongyshdiga,  ok, thanks05:00
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digagongysh: welcome!05:01
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digagongysh: just one questions, how we can debug tacker if we install using kolla05:01
* gongysh search kolla documentation05:02
gongyshdiga, https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/user/kolla-for-openstack-development.html05:02
digagongysh: okay, will go througith05:03
gongyshdiga,  need this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/497544/105:03
digagongysh: okay05:04
gongyshI will write a doc about it.05:04
digayeah05:05
gongyshanything else?05:05
diganothing from my side05:06
gongyshYanXing_an, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504758/05:06
digaYanXing_an: I will ping you seperately05:06
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gongyshI have updated the doc05:06
gongyshplease have a look at it.05:06
YanXing_anok05:06
YanXing_andiga, ok05:07
gongyshhi guys, it seems tacker is coming into container time, so please get some skills of docker and k8s.05:07
phuocgongysh, that's right :)05:08
gongyshkolla and kolla ansible is also coming into our skill scope.05:08
phuocI will look at kolla too05:08
gongysh2 mins to go05:09
digagongysh: I worked on kolla sometime back :)05:09
gongyshdiga, so please review our kolla doc.05:09
digagongysh: yeah05:09
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phuocI have to quit, see you ~05:09
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gongyshok, thanks everyone, please keep reviewing and contribution05:09
digabye05:10
gongysh#endmeeting05:10
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jungleboyj#startmeeting cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 20 16:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: cinder)"16:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
jungleboyj#topic roll call16:00
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smcginniso/16:00
lhx_o/16:00
jungleboyjCourtesy ping:  dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne abishop16:00
jungleboyjsivn16:00
xyang1Hi16:00
e0nehi16:01
diablo_rojo_phonHello16:01
jungleboyjxyang1: !16:01
xyang1jungleboyj: :)16:01
SwansonHello16:01
jungleboyjReminder we are using the new etherpad for the agenda:16:01
jungleboyj#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-queens-meeting-agendas16:01
jungleboyjGive people another minute to collect.16:02
jungleboyjHope everyone made it home safe from the PTG.16:02
diablo_rojo_phonEtherpads are not mobile friendly :/16:02
smcginnisI know a few people that sell computers around here> :P16:02
patrickeastHi16:02
* jungleboyj has a nice EPP for anyone that wants it.16:03
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diablo_rojo_phonsmcginnis I have plenty but it's early and I can't currently reach any of them from bed :)16:03
jungleboyjMoving on.16:04
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jungleboyj#topic Announcements16:04
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jungleboyjAs noted above we are going to try using this etherpad for agendas:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-queens-meeting-agendas16:04
jungleboyjI will create an etherpad per release to keep our agendas persistent.16:05
jungleboyjFeel free to add notes as necessary during meetings.  I will be doing so.16:05
jungleboyjIf there are any questions on the process please let me know.16:05
jungleboyjI wanted to thank everyone for a very productive week at the PTG.16:06
jungleboyjWe addressed a lot of good work items and had good cross project interaction.16:06
jungleboyjI am working as we speak to get a summary of everything onto our Wiki like we did for the Pike PTG.  Hope to have that done in the next day or so.16:07
lhx_jungleboyj, good news :)16:07
jungleboyjPlease make some time to look at the open specs that are out there so we can start getting those merged for Queens.16:07
jungleboyjA reminder to register for the Sydney Summit if you are going.16:08
jungleboyjThere is a code for the summit in the e-mail you got around the Pike PTG that will get your free entry.16:08
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jungleboyjLast, I have posted the team photos:16:08
jungleboyj#link https://photos.app.goo.gl/tNb1gH6HMyfvfqJN216:08
jungleboyj#topic Sydney Summit Forum Topics:16:09
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jungleboyj#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-sydney-forum-topics16:09
jungleboyjI want to make sure that people have an opportunity to propose Forum Topics.16:10
jungleboyjSo, starting this process early.16:10
jungleboyjAny ops related items or cross project topics that are appropriate for the Forum at the Summit should be put into that etherpad.16:10
jungleboyj#Action Team to help propose Forum topics for the Summit16:11
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jungleboyjPlease put anything in there you think might be relevant and then we can review as the summit gets closer.16:11
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jungleboyjAny questions on that topic?16:11
smcginnisThere is a deadline for forum selection.16:11
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smcginnisLet me see if I can find that. Unless someone else has it handy.16:12
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Good point.  That would be good to know.16:12
smcginnis#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Sydney2017 Forum topic submission info16:13
jungleboyjWe kind-of dropped the ball on the Forum last time.  Hoping we can fix that this time around.16:13
smcginnisjungleboyj: Looks like you can add our brainstorming etherpad there.16:14
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jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Thanks.  That is good.  Will do.16:14
jungleboyjNot seeing a deadline in there though or am I missing it?16:14
jungleboyj#Action jungleboyj  to add our etherpad to the link above.16:15
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geguileowho is planning to attend the summit?16:15
smcginnisNot there, nor the ML post pointing to it.16:15
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Ok, so I will watch for more info on that.16:15
jungleboyjgeguileo:  I will be there.16:15
geguileojungleboyj: You even have a presentation as PTL  ;-)16:16
smcginnis#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/121783.html More forum topic info16:16
jungleboyjgeguileo:  That I do.16:16
smcginnisgeguileo: I will be there as well.16:16
e0neI'll miss this summit :(16:16
smcginnise0ne: :(16:16
jungleboyje0ne:  Bummer.16:16
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jungleboyjAnything else on that topic from anyone?16:17
jungleboyj#Topic recreating ping list for Cinder Team Meetings16:18
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jungleboyjSo, we have had a lot of changes in the team and who is participating.  I am going to, after this meeting, remove the ping list from the top of the new etherpad.16:18
jungleboyjIf you would like to continue to be pinged, please add your name back in.16:19
e0nesounds reasonable for me to clean this list16:19
jungleboyj#Action jungleboyj  To remove old ping list.16:19
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jungleboyj#Action Team members need to add their names back to the list here:  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-queens-meeting-agendas if they want to continue to be pinged.16:19
jungleboyje0ne:  Yeah, figure it is good to get an updated list of who is really paying attention here.16:20
jungleboyjSo, short agenda today.16:20
jungleboyj#Topic Open Discussion16:20
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lhx_Did everybody applied to TSG of summit got the email info?16:20
lhx_s/got/get16:21
jungleboyjlhx_:  You should have gotten an e-mail.16:21
lhx_I may miss the most important email16:21
jungleboyjIf you can't find it Kendall Waters (kendall@openstack.org) can help get you the code.16:21
smcginnisI think I heard if you have not received a yes or no you may be on a standby list.16:22
lhx_I can see that email for the code, I meant this email from foundation for TSP16:22
e0neI wasn't approved to TSP this time:(16:22
jungleboyjOh, TSP.16:22
lhx_yep16:22
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo_phon:  ^^16:22
lhx_most of my teammates got their application result16:23
diablo_rojo_phonI'm not the decision maker for the Summit TSP, that's a committee of community members.16:23
jungleboyjOk.16:24
diablo_rojo_phonI can poke and see what they decided for you though lhx_16:24
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo_phon:  Thank you.16:24
lhx_diablo_rojo_phon, thanks kendall :)16:24
lhx_s/k/K16:25
jungleboyj#Action diablo_rojo_phon  to follow up on TSP status for lhx_16:25
lhx_sure16:25
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo_phon:  Any idea when the Cinder On-Boarding session will be in Sydney?16:25
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diablo_rojo_phonNope. Early planning stages still.16:26
jungleboyjOk.16:27
jungleboyjAlso just had a recommendation to post pictures in something other than google for those in China who may not have access.16:27
smcginnisOh, good point.16:28
jungleboyj#Action jungleboyj  To also upload pictures to dropbox and send out link.16:28
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  Yeah, diablo_rojo_phon  brought that up.  I keep running into the same issues with co-workers in China.16:28
jungleboyjNeed to learn that.  :-)16:28
jungleboyjWho can imagine a world without Google?16:28
e0ne:)16:29
jungleboyjAnything else?16:29
lhx_we always use a vpn, it's easy :)16:29
smcginnisNotice for everyone - gerrit emails are really delayed at times now.16:29
smcginnisThey are working on a fix.16:29
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Good to know.  Thanks.16:30
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jungleboyjSo now is the time to get caught up on that e-mail box huh?16:31
smcginnisHah, yep.16:31
jungleboyjOk.  Any other topics for today or should I give everyone 30 minutes back?16:31
jungleboyj*crickets*16:32
geguileo*crickets*16:32
jungleboyj*crickets*16:32
geguileothat was the echo16:32
jungleboyj:-)16:32
smcginnis:)16:32
jungleboyjOk, so, thanks everyone!  Talk to you all next week!16:33
jungleboyj#endmeeting Cinder16:33
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings"16:33
openstackMeeting ended Wed Sep 20 16:33:22 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:33
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-09-20-16.00.html16:33
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-09-20-16.00.txt16:33
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-09-20-16.00.log.html16:33
e0nesee you next week16:33
geguileothanks16:33
lhx_thanks16:34
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia17:00
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openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 20 17:00:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
xgerman_o/17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'octavia'17:00
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johnsomHi folks17:00
dayou_Hi17:00
rm_mobileo/17:00
jnieszhi17:00
johnsomAh, nice to be back from the PTG...17:01
johnsom#topic Announcements17:01
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johnsomNot much here.  Zuulv3 did not happen last week.17:01
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johnsomThe Gerrit updgrade did happen this week.  It's a bit slow for me, but hopefully will get better17:02
johnsomAny other announcements?17:02
johnsom#topic PTG update17:02
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johnsomWe had a great turnout at the PTG and got a lot done.  Thank you all that could make it.17:03
johnsom#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-ptg-queens17:03
johnsomI tried to take notes at the bottom of our etherpad17:03
dayou_We have something blocking our staging environment of Octavia, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462748/ helped fix that, could you help to review it?17:03
johnsomAny other comments/questions about the PTG last week?17:03
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review17:04
jniesz+1 on getting health manager fixed17:04
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tongljohnsonm: where is our team photo?17:04
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johnsomOk, moving on to that topic...17:04
johnsomOh, Yeah, just a second.  I pasted it in the main LBaaS room, but will paste here again17:05
xgerman_also what happened to the funny team photo?17:05
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rm_mobileI can review that today though I don't know why that would cause breakage17:05
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johnsomI was trying to ignore that one...  Grin17:05
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johnsomhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/g5EhR3gh/image.png17:06
jnieszit is causing issues with our monitoring17:06
johnsomhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/K1vj7NOh/image.png17:06
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johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/462748/17:06
rm_mobileI'll need to Photoshop myself into that later :P17:07
xgerman_yeah, WHERE DID YOU GO?17:07
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rm_mobileI was next door in the Barbican room going over the pkcs12 issues17:07
rm_mobileAnd castellan stuff17:07
johnsomI know one patch around the housekeeping issue merged, this is the followup for HM.17:08
rm_mobileI made it to their photo at least :P so I have proof I was there17:08
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johnsomYeah, I pinged you on IRC, but...17:08
xgerman_lol17:08
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rm_mobileI think I'm going to ask harlowja to look at it since he was the original author and some bits changed that I'm not sure about...17:08
johnsomAny other patches that need some attention?17:09
johnsomrm_mobile +117:09
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johnsomAny other patches to bring attention to?  Other progress to report?17:10
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tonglwhat's the status for provider driver spec?17:10
johnsomI have been looking at some of the dashboard issues and doing trip reports, etc.17:10
jniesz#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453005/17:10
jnieszjohnsom made the changes you requested, please review, nudge nudge17:11
johnsomtongl I think m-greene_ and r-browne were going to start the provider spec.17:11
johnsomjniesz yep, saw that17:11
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xgerman_mmh, we probably need to nudge them, too17:11
longstaffwe are working on the spec now17:12
xgerman_sweet17:12
tonglnice!17:12
johnsomtongl I think we need to revisit the synchronous status/stats call.  rm_mobile had a good comment that the batch queries for all stats/status would be painful17:12
johnsomlongstaff Thanks!17:12
dayou_I was looking at some of the Octavia-dashboard stories you created, next two weeks I'll be on vacation, once I am back, I can continue working on some of those.17:12
johnsomdayou_ That would be great!17:13
johnsomWe can use the help.17:13
johnsomI spent some time yesterday trying to figure out why ports weren't loading.  Turns out neutron in horizon was broken, they fixed it yesterday.17:13
johnsomI plan to fix the dashboard gates (drop the integration tests horizon is not using anymore and add the translate job)17:14
dayou_Cool17:14
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johnsomI need to do some ground work in openstacksdk for cascade delete and single call create.  I might start that too.17:15
johnsomOther updates?17:15
johnsomPlease review my notes from the PTG and correct/update anything I missed.17:15
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johnsom#topic Open Discussion17:16
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johnsomOther topics for today?17:16
* johnsom Is still getting caught up from being out a week17:16
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tonglAre we switching to octavia-dashboard now. I saw the local.conf sample is still pointing to neutron-lbaas-dashboard.17:16
johnsomI am super excited about our plans for Queens17:17
xgerman_well, we also need to get the reviews on ACTIVE-ACTIVE done17:17
xgerman_there are a ton of patches in flight17:17
johnsomYes, for octavia we will be using octavia-dashboard going forward17:17
xgerman_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313006/17:17
johnsomYeah, they need some work too17:17
tonglokay, I will update the local.conf sample to use octavia-dashboard instead.17:18
xgerman_+117:18
johnsomtongl Thanks!17:18
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johnsomNir caught some of those in his patch17:18
johnsom#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50363817:19
johnsomYeah, it's in this patch17:19
johnsomWe need some reviews on that17:19
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tongldamn, I forgot I reviewed that17:19
johnsomGrin17:19
johnsomI need to hit that again too17:20
tonglWe need it to be tested before we merge it.17:20
rm_mobileThere's a number of reviews up that are ready to go I think17:21
rm_mobileA few with one +2 even17:21
johnsomNext week I plan to have another doodle up so we can talk about the meeting time again.  This time is not working for some and the other folks have not been attending.  Plus I think we can use our own channel now which should make scheduling easier.17:21
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johnsomAny other topics to discuss today?\17:22
xgerman_there are probably enough meeting channels to accomodate us17:22
johnsomThe TC recently voted to allow meetings in the project channels that have the bot (we do)17:23
johnsom#topic https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170718-allow-scheduling-meetings-on-team-channels.html17:23
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johnsomOpps.17:24
johnsom#undo17:24
openstackRemoving item from minutes: #topic https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170718-allow-scheduling-meetings-on-team-channels.html17:24
johnsom#link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/resolutions/20170718-allow-scheduling-meetings-on-team-channels.html17:24
johnsomOk, if that is it, thank you all for joining!  We have patches to review!17:25
johnsom#endmeeting17:25
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bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 20 18:00:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'gluon'18:00
bh526r#topic Roll Call18:01
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bh526r#info Bin Hu18:01
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bh526ranyone else here?18:02
bh526rIf no one else, I will quickly summarize the outcome of PTG as a plan of record18:02
bh526r#topic PTG Outcome and Plan of Record18:03
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bh526r#info Queens plan is here18:03
bh526r#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Queens18:03
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bh526r#info The important task is Refactor Gluon Extended ML2 Plugin into Neutron Service Plugin, which is captured in RFE:18:04
bh526r#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/171648918:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1716489 in neutron "[RFE] Implement Gluon as Neutron Service Plugin" [Undecided,New]18:04
bh526r#info Ian will look into implementation of a service plugin, and experiment it18:05
bh526r#info Sukhdev is working on creating a new repo networking-gluon, which is a work in progress18:05
bh526r#info Jin is focusing on backends, which is independent of service plugin implementation18:07
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bh526r#info community resources are encouraged to join the development in Queens, including this service plugin work and other tasks in the plan.18:07
bh526rBecause no one else is here, I will adjourn the meeting18:07
bh526r#info Meeting adjourned18:07
bh526r#endmeeting18:07
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bh526rJin?18:08
JinLiHi bi9n18:08
JinLibin18:08
bh526rHi Jin18:08
bh526rnothing else. I just summarized the plan for a record here18:09
JinLisorry late for the meeting18:09
JinLiok18:09
bh526rNo problem.18:09
JinLido18:09
JinLii am still working on the backend items18:09
bh526rgreat. how is it going?18:09
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JinLiI am reviewing backend code and try to understand what Tom's code is doing18:10
krenczewskiHi all, Sorry I am late18:10
JinLimay need to have a meeting with you on Friday.18:10
JinLiI need to dig more into code before I meet with you18:11
bh526rSure. My calendar is up to date so feel free to set up a live conversation18:11
JinLiok18:11
bh526rHi Kamil18:11
JinLiHi Kamil18:11
krenczewskiLokks like lighting fast meeting :-)18:11
bh526r:) That's right. Nothing else. I just summarized the plan as a record here, before you joined18:12
bh526rany update from your side, Kamil?18:12
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krenczewskiJust waiting on Sukhdev as he review all the code from last 4 weeks18:13
bh526rHe is just back from vacation last week, so he may need more time18:14
krenczewskiThen we can try to verify if this is OK for summit and talk about the demo scenario18:14
bh526rok, sounds good18:14
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SukhdevI am in the middle of looking at the code18:16
bh526rIf nothing else, we can adjourn so that Kamil will have a good night, and Jin can go back to review the code :)18:16
krenczewskiSound good18:16
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bh526rcool, Sukhdev, great you are here18:16
SukhdevHave asked couple of additional reviewers to review as well.18:16
SukhdevSo, be patient for few days18:17
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JinLiok, bye !18:17
krenczewskiOK, If yoy could do review early it would be Great18:17
Sukhdevbh526r: just snooping around:-)18:17
bh526rgreat work guys18:17
krenczewskiPiotr Zalas, author of most patches ends his internship in 9 days18:18
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krenczewskiIt would be great to end his reviews by that time18:18
Sukhdevkrenczewski: if you have few minutes after this meeting, let's hop onto Skype call, if possible18:18
krenczewskiOK, this is possible18:18
bh526rcool. Just go ahead to your skype call for the work18:18
bh526rI will also need to wrap up many reports to my bosses.18:19
bh526rTalk to you all here next week, and let's go back to work18:19
Sukhdevbh526r: we will proceed with what we discussed in Denver regarding demo plan in Sydney18:19
bh526rok18:20
bh526rbye all, guys18:20
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krenczewskiBye18:21
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fungiper discussion in #storyboard, no meeting needed this week19:02
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ekhugen#startmeeting wos_mentoring20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Sep 20 20:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekhugen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
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diablo_rojoHello :)20:00
ekhugenHi Kendall, how are you?20:00
diablo_rojoekhugen, busy as ever :) But good.20:00
diablo_rojoYourself?20:00
ekhugenhow was the PTG?20:01
ekhugenyep, about the same.  Pretty sad to be stuck in office today, it’s all kinds of hot and sunny and beautiful outside20:01
diablo_rojoPTG was good! Went super fast as always20:01
diablo_rojoThis weekend I head to London for OSD UK20:02
ekhugenoh wow, nice!20:02
ekhugenI’ve never been to London20:02
ekhugenI wonder if it will just be the two of us today, Nicole said she couldn’t make it and I didn’t hear anything from Megan or Amrith20:03
diablo_rojoCould be.20:04
ekhugenBut yeah, for speed mentoring, do we just want to have the signup form ask: 1. mentor or mentee 2. career or technical 3.email?20:05
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diablo_rojoI think we just sign up mentors20:06
diablo_rojoDid we register mentees last time?20:06
ekhugenI think last time we did register mentees, so we’d have a rough idea of how many people were going to come20:07
ekhugenbut we don’t have to, especially since we don’t have a sponsor doing giveaways, maybe that’s not necessary20:08
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diablo_rojoOkay. I wonder if we can do them separately like have the mentee registration on the summit schedule page and then send out a formstack survey to siign up mentors20:08
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diablo_rojoso as to keep them separate?20:08
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ekhugensure, we could do that, I wonder if we could just reuse the formstack for mentors from last time20:09
* ekhugen looks through her email for the link20:10
ekhugenhttps://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/boston_woo_speed_mentoring_baseballcard_info20:11
diablo_rojoGood starting place.20:12
diablo_rojoAre we going to try to do the baseball cards again?20:12
diablo_rojoIf not I think we can cut it down a lot20:12
ekhugenthat’s a good question, we’d need someone to print them and bring them to the summit, I’m not sure if Amrith has time to do that20:13
diablo_rojoGood point.20:14
diablo_rojoI'm not sure I would have time either.20:14
ekhugenYeah, maybe go with something easier, like nametags for mentors or something20:14
diablo_rojoYeah20:15
diablo_rojoI guess we will need to go to the ML with this since no one else is here to voice and opinion :)20:16
ekhugenso yeah, maybe we make the mentor survey name, email, job title and career or technical20:16
ekhugenI can send a note to the listserv with that info today20:17
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ekhugenanything else we should discuss here about speed mentoring?20:18
ekhugenwe should probably put out a call for mentors once we have the signup forms20:19
diablo_rojoDon't think so20:19
diablo_rojoI can draft that today/tomorrow20:20
ekhugenthanks!20:20
ekhugenhow about long term mentoring, do we need to start thinking about check ins with the matches?20:20
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diablo_rojoYeah its been about a month since the first matches20:23
diablo_rojoI think we still have a few unmatched people, but I figure we can match them after we do checkins20:23
ekhugenso how do you want to work check ins?20:23
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diablo_rojoEmails I would say. Do we have a form letter for that?20:23
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ekhugenLast time we did20:24
ekhugenHello,20:24
ekhugenHappy New Year! We hope that this note finds everyone well. We're just checking to see how you're doing in your mentoring relationships. Please let us know if your contact with your mentor/mentee has stopped for any reason or if you have any questions.20:24
ekhugenWe also wanted to ask if there are any mentors or mentees who would be interested in talking about their experiences at the Boston summit. If so, please contact Anne McCormick (amccormi@cisco.com).20:24
ekhugenThanks so much!20:24
ekhugenSincerely,20:24
ekhugenThe OpenStack Mentoring Team20:24
diablo_rojoInteresting okay pretty simple then20:25
ekhugenI mean, we could add some lines pointing them to the guides20:25
ekhugenor giving them suggestions that they should’ve had a meeting so far or something20:26
diablo_rojoYeah, some general pointers20:26
diablo_rojoDo you have time to draft something/send the emails?20:28
diablo_rojoOr not really?20:28
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ekhugenI think I can, I’d probably just add another sentence or two like: “You’ve hopefully had at least one meeting so far and are getting to know each other’s goals.  If your mentoring relationship is stuck or you’re looking to take it to the next level, check out our mentor and mentee guides <links>.  “20:30
ekhugenI’d probably just send out one email to everyone (bcc of course)20:30
diablo_rojoYeah that works.20:30
diablo_rojoI might add one more thing about if they haven't gotten responses from their mentor/mentee to reply and we can rematch them20:31
ekhugenPlease let us know if your contact with your mentor/mentee has stopped for any reason, if you never heard from your mentor/mentee, or if you have any questions.20:31
ekhugen?20:31
diablo_rojoYeah that sounds good20:32
diablo_rojoSweet and simple20:32
ekhugenokay, yep, I can do that today or early tomorrow20:32
diablo_rojoCoolio20:32
ekhugenanything else?20:32
spotzboo20:32
diablo_rojospotz, ?20:32
diablo_rojoOh20:32
spotz:)20:32
diablo_rojoI thought you were displeased with something20:33
diablo_rojonot announcing your presence20:33
diablo_rojo:)20:33
spotzBut seeing where I poked in never heard from my mentee, feel free to reassign me20:33
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ekhugenthanks spotz20:33
diablo_rojoWill add you back to the list to match20:33
ekhugenit’s annoying when people sign up and then don’t bother contacting people20:33
ekhugensure I’ll update the spreadsheet20:34
spotzOh one thing we might want to add in the future to the speed mentoring and maybe even long term mentoring is COmmunity. In LA there were 7 tables for tech, 5 community and 3 career20:34
diablo_rojoThat's a cool idea20:35
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ekhugen+1 I like that20:36
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spotzThey had 2 hours and did 5 rounds, the last mentees could pick the topic/table of their choice. I liked that as well but we would need to go longer then the hour lunch20:36
spotz4 rounds sorry20:36
ekhugenyeah, that is cool, that’s a lot of time to get to ask questions20:37
spotzAnd as I mentioned on Monday when I was in actual attendance tables of 4, mentor plus 3 mentees max20:37
spotzmentoring is definitely a hot thing in Open Source right now20:38
ekhugenthat’s a nice ratio for discussions20:38
diablo_rojoIts important to spread the knowledge :)20:38
spotzIt was really well received, one of the conference highlights for sure20:39
spotzok I'll go back to lurking:) poke if needed20:40
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ekhugenokay, I don’t think I have anything else20:41
ekhugenI just updated the spreadsheet to unmatch Amy and Megha20:41
ekhugenand I’m working on the emails now20:41
diablo_rojocool sound like we are good to go20:42
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ekhugencool, thanks Amy and Kendall!20:42
ekhugenhave a safe trip to London diablo_rojo20:42
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ekhugen#endmeeting20:43
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diablo_rojoWill do!20:51
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notmynameswift team meeting time21:00
notmyname#startmeeting swift21:00
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notmynamewho's here for the swift team?21:00
mattoliverauo/21:00
notmyname...team meeting21:00
m_kazuhiroo/21:01
tdasilvahi21:01
rledisezhi o/21:01
acoleshello21:01
timburkeo/21:01
timburkethere's a chance i'll need to drop out for some other meeting though :-(21:01
notmynameyeah, I'm sitting in another one myself21:02
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notmynameI hope everyone got home from the PTG safely21:02
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notmynameI just got back home late last night, so I'll admit I haven't fully caught up yet21:04
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notmynamebut, mostly this week I want to review the PTG, now that we've had a chance to sleep on it, and see what's obvious that we need to keep doing21:05
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notmynamether PTG etherpad is at21:05
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notmyname#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-queens21:05
notmyname(for review)21:05
notmynameand the retrospective we did (with the few action items recorded) is at21:05
notmyname#link https://postfacto.io/retros/swift21:05
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notmyname#topic ptg review21:05
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notmynameso...21:05
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notmynamewhat did you think?21:06
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notmynamehere's what we said in denver: https://postfacto.io/retros/swift/archives/868021:06
acolesnotmyname: I liked the retrospective tool we used21:06
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timburkei got lots of patches merged -- i'm happy21:07
notmynameacoles: cool. I did too21:07
tdasilvaEnter the password to access Swift Denver PTG.21:07
acolesis that 'meta-retrospective'?21:07
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notmynametdasilva: hmm21:07
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notmynamesorry21:07
mattoliverauI thought it went great. Especially thanks for acoles, timburke and torgomatic  for spending so much time on Sharding. It's coming along nicely now21:07
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acolesmattoliverau: no speed bumps on a feature branch :)21:07
tdasilvanotmyname: https://postfacto.io/retros/swift is fine, shows action items21:07
mattoliverau:)21:08
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notmynametdasilva: yeah, the archive one shows the stuff we said was good/bad/questions21:08
notmynamehere's a way to rephrase the question. now that you're back home, you've thought more about the PTG and you've probably talked to coworkers about it and whatever you missed at work while in denver.21:08
notmynameso has your perspective on what was done in denver or what you need to to next any different than what happened last week21:09
notmynameeg since the PTG I've had several conversations (in the office and otherwise) that reenforce the s3api work we talked about21:10
tdasilvacool, i've started some of that conversation on my side too21:10
notmynamealso I almost immediately ran into a support question that made me want to have policy migration landed a long time ago ;-)21:10
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notmynamehmm... /me is doing a stellar job of prompting discussion ;-)21:12
tdasilvaheh21:12
joeljwright:)21:12
acolesok, I'll pitch in21:12
notmynameok, how about the bug triage work?21:12
mattoliverauI think the ptgbot kinda worked, except I kept forgetting to check it21:12
tdasilvaso one of the things I've been thinking is how do we continue with the action items...things we said we woud do in the future21:13
tdasilvalike bug triage work and virtual meetings21:13
acoles...for me, I'm still happy with the outcomes of the week. feature branch is definitely working well.21:13
mattoliverauI think we getting better at hacking in a room, we managed to get things done without a projector :)21:13
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notmynameacoles: glad to hear it21:14
mattoliverauWhich I didn't miss21:14
notmynamemattoliverau: yeah, the room layout went pretty well. I agree21:14
acoles...I found it helpful to understand what is important to different people and I think we need to make sure we continue to communicate those priorities amongst ourselves21:14
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acoles...and I appreciate people travelling to be there because it is always good to meet face to face21:14
notmynametdasilva: what have your thoughts been?21:14
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notmynameacoles: I too like that people shared what was important to them and their employers21:15
tdasilvanotmyname: just how can we make concrete plans...for example: is it too early to try to schedule a virtual mid-cycle?21:15
kota_+121:15
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tdasilvanotmyname: how will we continue making progress with bug triage? is that a monthly meeting? every-other? how do we drive down the bug count?21:16
torgomaticI was glad to make progress on container sharding. That was really my one goal for the PTG; anything else that happened was just gravy.21:16
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notmynametorgomatic: a gravy train?21:16
notmynametdasilva: I don't think it's too early. we're not in a particular rush (eg we don't need it planned by next week), but starting planning now isn't a bad idea21:16
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tdasilvanotmyname: yeah, I wasn't thinking planning as in topic, but maybe start thinking about dates cause then people can plan for that21:17
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notmynametdasilva: for bug triage, we agreed to have one meeting a month focused on it, right?21:17
notmynametdasilva: yeah. that's good21:17
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tdasilvanotmyname: the action items says 'dedicate weekly meeting to bug triage', but i'm not sure what that would look like...21:19
tdasilvaif we try to triage bugs in this meeting we will get through very few of them21:19
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notmynamedo you want to try to do it next week and see what happens? and try to plan it before then?21:19
notmynameyou're right that going through in a meeting won't work great (similar to how we can't do code review in an hour long IRC meeting), but what else could we do?21:20
notmynamereport on stuff triaged?21:20
notmynamepass out things to triage for people?21:20
acoleshow about if we advertise that at next meeting we will review bug status and *maybe*. that will act as an incentive for us to nail a few more *before* that meeting?21:21
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notmynameok21:22
mattoliverauHow would a virtual midcycle work? All try and meet at the same timezone but remotely, cause it's one thing to do when you in the same city but harder from home.. especially for those of us who are opposite timezones? Or run it for a week and try and find overlaps to different discussions. I'm not against either, just need to think about how to make it work.21:22
tdasilvayeah...I was thinking about what acoles said back in Denver. how maybe just the idea of designating a day is helpful. Like "On Sept. 27th, will be swift bug triage day" and hopefully people can dedicate a good chunk of their time on that day for that21:22
claygbut I'm *here*21:22
notmynameanyone know someone who's run virtual midcycles before?21:23
clayglol @ meta-retrospective!21:23
mattoliverauI know ironic did some virtual midcycles21:23
tdasilvamanila is running this week21:23
mattoliverauI think it's was the former.21:23
tdasilvai was kind of waiting end of the week to ping a few manila folks and ask about it21:24
mattoliverauCool21:24
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notmynameyeah, that'd be great21:24
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notmynameok, thinking more about a bug triage day21:24
notmynameit's interesting to think of it on a meeting day (eg sept 27, next week)21:25
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notmynamebecause for EU, you'd end talking about what happend, for US we'd do it in the middle of the day, and for APAC it's the start of the day21:25
clayg@timburke where are those fancy charts and graphs for bugs published?21:26
notmynamewednesdays seem to be "meeting days" for me, so that might lend itself to picking off some bugs to triage here and there in between meetings21:26
notmyname /bugday?21:26
mattoliverauTrue, tho APAC would be the day after21:26
mattoliverauUnless we make our triage day the day after yours ;)21:27
acolesAPAC can do the day before and after :)21:27
timburkeyeah, http://status.openstack.org/bugday/ -- but it only keeps like three days worth of history i think?21:27
mattoliverauLol21:27
claygI really like the idea of trying to prioritize it with gamification21:27
timburke...and that's when it's actually working...21:27
notmynameok, not just me getting a blank page for that21:27
clayg@timburke conducive to short focused group effort!21:28
acolesI know it be a pipe dream but I think that somehow knowing there is a collective day of action will make me pay attention21:28
tdasilvaalso checkout https://github.com/thiagodasilva/launchpad-reporting for swift launchpad graphs21:28
notmynamethey just upgraded gerrit, so probably all busted21:28
timburkewhat, no gh-pages? :P21:28
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claygtdasilva: yes!  I think i've seen that before - maybe we could get it hosted & published somewhere?21:28
acolesgerrit mail seems to be stalled too, I've seen none today21:29
notmynameacoles: I find that a relief. my unread count is going up, not down ;-)21:29
mattoliverautdasilva: awesome!21:29
mattoliverauIf only I still had cloud I'd host one there21:29
claygtdasilva: what's least effort for you?  Mostly you just need everyone to do X bug triage per week?21:30
claygtdasilva: how do we know we're doing that - how can I hold myself accountable - how can someone else hold the team as a whole accountable?21:30
tdasilvahttps://snag.gy/Wa1qRl.jpg21:31
claygcan you zoom in on that drop?21:31
acolesnotmyname: hmmm, actually, may be that my mail filter needs tweaking to include feature/deep in what I see. IDK!21:31
claygI think just having that IN OUR FACE all the time would make a huge difference in driving behavior21:32
mattoliverau+121:32
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claygI see absoultely ZERO reason that tdasilva shouldn't just feel totally comfotrable throwing that at us every week - YOU GUYS SUCK - LOOK AT THESE BUGS - DO BETTER!21:32
claygtotally WFM21:32
notmynametdasilva: if you don't have a place, I can find one to host it21:32
tdasilvaclayg: TBH, I'm not sure. Ideally, we need everyone to commit to do X bug triage per week, but that's hard to hold people accountable. and we also need people to commit to start fixing bugs, me included21:33
claygnotmyname: yeah you host it!21:33
acolesclayg: +1 - hold us accountable21:33
claygright fixing them... one step at a time ;)21:33
notmynameok, I see two things21:33
tdasilvabut yeah, graph probably helps21:33
notmynameone, host tdasilva's tool somewhere21:33
notmynametwo, designate a day for global bug traige21:33
notmyname*triage21:34
claygyeah - i think that could be fun21:34
claygand with the graph at the end where we can *see* the drop of our efforts (and brag to our bosses about effort *well spent*)21:34
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notmynameshall we say next wednesday for bug triage? would that work?21:34
clayg... I think that'd be a huge improvment21:34
clayg... ad tdasilva is a hero21:34
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mattoliverauNext Wednesday or Thursday :p21:34
mattoliverauIll assume the day of the meeting21:35
notmynameheh, ok. next week, "day of the meeting" then :-)21:35
kota_mattoliverau has good question21:35
tdasilvawould it be helpful to hold a 'virtual video room' open for high bandwidth conversations? or is IRC enough?21:35
claygidk, I have other meetings in the morning... but at least it's not a release week... I haven't really "checked" with anyone - but I don't think my plate is over full ATM :\21:35
mattoliverauUnless we want to look at the graph at the meeting to see how we're doing then Wednesday is good ;)21:36
claygI'll can put it on my calendar as not busy and do my best?21:36
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claygmattoliverau: *I* want a graph!?21:36
notmynameclayg: yeah, since there are other meetings, I wonder if that might make it easier to pick off some bugs in between instead of trying to find a giant block of uninterrupted time21:36
notmynameyeah, the graph is good, regardless of bug day :-)21:36
notmynamejust needs to get hosted somewhere21:36
claygtdasilva: IRC is plenty for me - I don't recall needing anything particularlly high bandwidth for triage - it's somewhat decomposable and parallelizable21:37
tdasilvanotmyname: if you can help with the graph hosting part, that would be great21:37
claygnotmyname: maybe you and tdasilva could schedule a time to high-bandwidth/screen share to get that good business hosted!?21:37
notmynametdasilva: on it21:37
claygtdasilva: be sure to write down all the sekret passw0rds21:37
notmynametdasilva: I've added it to my todo list21:38
notmynametdasilva: i'll ping you about it later (probably tomorrow at the earliest)21:38
* clayg dusts hands (it's on notmyname's todo list)21:38
notmynameI think to start with IRC should be enough for a bug triage day21:38
tdasilvaagree21:38
clayg+121:38
claygbut video adhocary would be awesome21:39
notmyname#agreed next week, "day of the meeting" (in your timezone) is a bug triage day!21:39
claygit might be enough just knowing everyone is on the same page - I like to chat folks - I'M NICE21:39
notmynameyeah, I think that collective sense of common task will be very helpful21:40
claygnotmyname: tdasilva: it's on my calendar - it will be21:40
notmyname#topic open discussion21:40
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notmynamewhat else to talk about?21:40
notmynamejoeljwright: what's up with ambles?21:40
joeljwrightI was hoping you could tell me that21:41
claygkota_: did you look at the ring rebalance bug?  does it fix the rings for that one team that discovered the issue?21:41
joeljwright:)21:41
tdasilvaoh lol, one more thing for next week...forgot about Pete's meeting21:41
m_kazuhirotdasilva: I think all related patches for symlink are merged. Can we start review cycle on Symlink?21:41
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joeljwrightI've not seen any further comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365371/21:41
patchbotpatch 365371 - swift - Add Preamble and Postamble to SLO and SegmentedIte...21:41
tdasilvam_kazuhiro: yeah, i pushed a new patchset of symlinks today21:41
claygkota_: I was thinking about dusting off https://github.com/swiftstack/ring-check and throwing some CPU at it21:41
claygtdasilva: on the PUT+POST21:42
tdasilvaclayg: yep, we had talked about scheduling one hour with Pete. is that still desirable for next week?21:42
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claygtdasilva: torgomatic: what's the status - zaitcev says he wants to talk about it - I want to be able to test backed object nodes with non-eventlet wsgi servers (e.g. gunicorn multi-process + rate-limit thread per request)21:43
kota_clayg: is that the tool for ring graph?21:43
torgomaticclayg: gunicorn in the what now?21:44
claygkota_: no, but I did get permission to open source that - in the process I also realized that project doesn't have an adequate license21:44
m_kazuhirotdasilva: Thank you. I will start review on symlink patch #232162.21:44
patchbothttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/232162/ - swift - Symlink implementation.21:44
tdasilvakota_: timburke ^^^ need your help too21:44
claygkota_: that tool just runs rebalance on a bunch of rings and outputs stats via CSV so you can import them into a data analysis tool (like google sheets or w/e)21:44
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notmynamejoeljwright: can you take care of the merge conflict on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365371/ ?21:45
patchbotpatch 365371 - swift - Add Preamble and Postamble to SLO and SegmentedIte...21:45
joeljwrightsure21:45
claygkota_: but I'm thinking about packaging swift next week for some other bugs and I'd love to have the ring fix in there (we have some customers effected)21:45
kota_clayg : i beleave your fix is nice to have. Sorry I've been vacation after ptg hence not so long time to see21:45
joeljwrightI'll sort that out first thing tomorrow21:45
notmynamejoeljwright: thanks21:46
claygkota_: so I was mostly curious if you could try that patch against the rings that specifically discovered the issue for you sometime in the next... 5 days?21:46
kota_mobile is hard to type :/21:46
claygkota_: "i'm no sure" or "not likely" is fine - i can plan21:46
claygkota_: YOU'RE ON VACATION!?  THAT'S GREAT!!!21:46
kota_oic, try the csv tool21:47
claygkota_: do you mind if I ask when you think you'll be "back to work" (again I'm just trying to plan)21:47
claygkota_: will do!21:47
notmynamehmm... kota_ is on vacation? I don't think I still have /kick access in this channel ;-)21:47
claygtorgomatic: I just want to not use eventlet when I hit the disks!  I hate the eventlet with the blocking.  SO much.21:47
claygbut we're tied to eventlet in terrible terrible superficial way in the WORST place21:48
claygit's the same problem with golang and EC21:48
claygor *anything* not eventlet and the object server21:48
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kota_The next week I'm back so..21:48
claygthe OVH/LoSF work *also* is getting bit by eventlet21:48
claygkota_: great!  NP!  I'll resync with you at the next meeting :D21:48
kota_Sorry21:49
claygkota_: it's great!21:49
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claygtdasilva: yeah so I'm *interested* but not actively *investing*21:49
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claygbut depending on how likely things are stuck vs. moving forward - I'm curious what options we have21:50
claygtorgomatic: I think you're 1) busy with other stuff and 2) after that stuff thinking about container sharding21:50
tdasilvaclayg: I was thinking if we could just touch base with Pete so that he is brought up to sync with everyone, You have some ideas, torgomatic I think also has some other ideas, and pete has that patch21:50
claygso that leaves zaitcev to save golang/LoSF/anything-not-eventlet-in-the-worst-place-to-be-stuck-with-eventlet21:50
torgomaticclayg: that sounds correct; I'd like to work more on the object PUT protocol, but I can't really find the time21:50
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claygok, i'm cool to touch base21:51
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notmynametdasilva: can you set that up for next week, depending on availability?21:51
tdasilvanotmyname: sure. so I followed your advice and set this up: https://doodle.com/poll/mfcd2ypt28fmce8y21:52
tdasilvaif you want to attend, can you please add your name there and availability...21:52
notmynamethat is a lot of timeslots ;-)21:52
notmynamethanks21:52
notmyname#link https://doodle.com/poll/mfcd2ypt28fmce8y21:53
notmyname(for easy finding later)21:53
claygtorgomatic: could you please also make time to fill out doodle and try to catch up with pete (cc timburke & acoles) on this topic?  I'd love to level set if we have to have follow-up conversations about prioritization21:53
notmynameah, calendar view is simpler21:53
torgomaticclayg: sure, I'll try to get to that today21:53
acolesclayg: on it21:54
tdasilvaalso make sure to see it in your timezone21:54
tdasilvayou can change that21:54
notmynamethank21:54
acolesnotmyname: good tip...calendar thanks21:54
claygI think lp bug #1496636 has really got us in a sticky whicket21:54
openstackLaunchpad bug 1496636 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC: Chunked transfer/commit protocol is *not* HTTP" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496636 - Assigned to Pete Zaitcev (zaitcev)21:54
notmynameanything else to bring up today?21:54
notmynameclayg: is it a right royal bug?21:54
acolesI should jolly well think so21:55
mattoliverauLol21:55
timburkegot some backports i proposed this morning, but i can bug notmyname offline21:55
notmynameyeah21:55
tdasilvanotmyname: maybe tomorrow we can talk more about s3api plans?21:55
notmynametdasilva: sure21:56
tdasilvathanks21:56
notmynametdasilva: tomorrow morning will work better for me (my time)21:56
kota_Tomorrow?21:56
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mattoliveraukota_: you just need to holiday ;)21:57
notmynamekota_: you're on vacation! stay on vacation :-)21:57
kota_Ok21:57
kota_Thanks21:57
notmynameI think that about covers it for this week21:58
notmynamebug triage next week21:58
notmynametalk with pete next week (see doodle poll)21:58
notmynametdasilva and I will host the LP bugs/graphs21:58
acolesdoodle is great21:58
notmynameand m_kazuhiro is ready for reviews on migrations and joeljwright will resolve the merge conflict21:58
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jungleboyjargh21:58
notmynamegood meeting21:59
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notmynamethanks everyone for coming. thanks for your work on swift21:59
notmyname#endmeeting21:59
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notmynamejungleboyj: or perfect timing?21:59
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jungleboyjnotmyname:  Something like that.  :-)21:59
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jungleboyjStill trying gto get caught up since the PTG.22:00
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