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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 11 15:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lennyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| lennyb | Hello | 15:00 |
| pots | o? | 15:00 |
| pots | o/ | 15:00 |
| lennyb | hello, pots, how are you? | 15:00 |
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| pots | good, just waiting to hear how high the water got at my folks place in Naples | 15:01 |
| lennyb | pots... I hope they will be fine. | 15:02 |
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| lennyb | people know how to grow artificial cells and modify DNA, but still helpless facing nature | 15:03 |
| pots | they are away, so the waiting is the hardest part. | 15:03 |
| lennyb | anything you would like to ask/share//complain regarding meeting topic? | 15:04 |
| pots | no, not today | 15:04 |
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| lennyb | me neither. I will stay around for awhile in case someone shows up. | 15:05 |
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| lennyb | pots, I will close the meeting now. Good luck with Irma. | 15:16 |
| pots | ok, thanks | 15:16 |
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| lennyb | #emdmeeting | 15:16 |
| lennyb | #endmeeting | 15:16 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 11 15:16:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:16 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2017/third_party.2017-09-11-15.00.html | 15:16 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2017/third_party.2017-09-11-15.00.txt | 15:16 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2017/third_party.2017-09-11-15.00.log.html | 15:16 |
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| shamail | hi | 18:00 |
| mrhillsman | hey | 18:00 |
| mrhillsman | i'm in the uc/productwg room if anyone wants to join me | 18:01 |
| seanhandley | mrhillsman: What's the channel for that? | 18:01 |
| shamail | At the PTG? | 18:01 |
| mrhillsman | want to chair shamail ? | 18:01 |
| mrhillsman | yes, at the PTG, apologies | 18:01 |
| seanhandley | ah | 18:01 |
| shamail | I’d prefer not to (have a conflict so multi-tasking) | 18:02 |
| mrhillsman | no worries | 18:02 |
| shamail | Are you at a place where you can do it? Otherwise, I will do it | 18:02 |
| mrhillsman | #startmeeting uc | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 11 18:02:19 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mrhillsman. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| mrhillsman | #chair shamail VW zioproto | 18:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW mrhillsman shamail zioproto | 18:02 |
| mrhillsman | #chair emagana | 18:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW emagana mrhillsman shamail zioproto | 18:02 |
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| mrhillsman | #topic RollCall | 18:02 |
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| shamail | Here | 18:03 |
| VW | o/ | 18:03 |
| seanhandley | o/ | 18:03 |
| aprice | o/ | 18:03 |
| mrhillsman | o/ | 18:03 |
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| shamail | Hi everyone | 18:03 |
| mrhillsman | awesome, will wait just a couple more minutes for anyone joining | 18:03 |
| seanhandley | is there an etherpad? | 18:04 |
| shamail | How’s PTG going for you so far mrhillsman? | 18:04 |
| shamail | seanhandley: No, these meetings are logged so we can review that for content, action items, etc. | 18:04 |
| shamail | logs can be found at http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/ | 18:05 |
| mrhillsman | no etherpad but that does not mean we cannot use one seanhandley - but | 18:05 |
| mrhillsman | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc-meeting-091117 | 18:05 |
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| emagana | Hi Folks! I am in the middle of some work. I wont be able to attend nor chair | 18:05 |
| seanhandley | thanks shamail mrhillsman | 18:05 |
| mrhillsman | but we do log as shamail said :) | 18:05 |
| shamail | okay emagana, take care | 18:05 |
| VW | good luck sorting those things, emagana | 18:05 |
| emagana | Thanks! | 18:05 |
| lsell | I'm here, sorry to join a few minutes late | 18:05 |
| seanhandley | I'm familiar with eavesdrop :) We tend to throw up an etherpad in the public cloud wg meetings - this is my first UC meeting | 18:06 |
| shamail | no worries lsell, sure you’re busy at PTG :) | 18:06 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Review Previous Meeting Items | 18:06 |
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| seanhandley | hey lsell o/ | 18:06 |
| mrhillsman | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-08-28-18.01.html | 18:06 |
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| mrhillsman | previous items there | 18:06 |
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| mrhillsman | i started on the wiki updates - just need to move from my computer to the site | 18:07 |
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| shamail | Awesome | 18:07 |
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| mrhillsman | emagana sent the email - thanks | 18:07 |
| mrhillsman | shamail - Complete our re-work of the AUC system to allow self-service additions/removals by WG/Team chairs | 18:08 |
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| VW | I got an email about about Wed evening (US) time for the cross chair pow wow | 18:08 |
| mrhillsman | i believe we did this with the patch for extra-auc no? | 18:08 |
| VW | will send a reminder today | 18:08 |
| mrhillsman | awesome, thanks VW | 18:08 |
| shamail | yes, that’s correct mrhillsman | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | ok great, so that one is done | 18:09 |
| shamail | I believe the next step here would be to send an email to user committee ML to let the WG chairs know to go in there and populate data for their teams | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | ok great | 18:09 |
| shamail | We created the framework but it needs to be populated by the WG chairs | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | want to take that action? | 18:09 |
| shamail | Sure | 18:09 |
| mrhillsman | #action shamail send an email to user committee ML to let the WG chairs know to go populate auc/extra-auc | 18:10 |
| mrhillsman | ok, i think that is all for previous stuff, anything else? | 18:10 |
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| shamail | VW sent the email about the WG chair meeting too | 18:10 |
| shamail | ack, sorry | 18:10 |
| mrhillsman | yep | 18:10 |
| shamail | already mentioned :) | 18:10 |
| VW | you can action me up to send a reminder though | 18:11 |
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| mrhillsman | #action VW send reminder regarding WG chair meeting | 18:11 |
| mrhillsman | anything else? | 18:11 |
| VW | not that I can think of | 18:11 |
| shamail | same here, nothing | 18:12 |
| mrhillsman | ok great, moving on | 18:12 |
| mrhillsman | #topic UC User Survey status update - Allison | 18:12 |
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| mrhillsman | aprice, the floor is yours! | 18:12 |
| aprice | thanks mrhillsman! | 18:12 |
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| aprice | I wanted to provide a quick update on the user survey. I sent an email last week about the qualitative analysis beginning. All members of the UC have access to this tool and I would like to encourage you all to log in this week if possible and take a look at some of the feedback we received this cycle. | 18:13 |
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| shamail | Thanks aprice, is there a deadline for this phase (e.g. do I only have this week or could I do it over the weekend)? | 18:14 |
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| mrhillsman | #action Review qualitative analysis of user survey - all UC members have access | 18:14 |
| aprice | we had a fantastic volunteer group that has been tagging the responses that will aid in the overall analysis of the NPS reasons, where OpenStack should improve and what users like most. In the upcoming weeks, we will be able to start sharing the analysis and would welcome input from the UC on particular pieces to call out. | 18:14 |
| VW | will do, aprice - sorry I haven't as of yet | 18:14 |
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| aprice | shamail: the soft deadline is this Friday, but early next week works. | 18:14 |
| shamail | thanks | 18:14 |
| aprice | I can resend the links and please let me and Jimmy know if you have any trouble accessing. | 18:14 |
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| shamail | aprice: +1, would be appreciated | 18:15 |
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| aprice | we also got the initial data back from our data scientist, so I should be able to provide an update on that piece within the next week as well | 18:15 |
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| VW | awesome - can't wait | 18:15 |
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| aprice | I can make sure to provide an update on each UC meeting, but will also email throughout the week once we have updates. | 18:15 |
| shamail | aprice: Will there be (or are there) seperate User Survey WG meetings planned? | 18:15 |
| aprice | yes - once we get into the analysis, I will probably set up IRC meetings to discuss. | 18:16 |
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| shamail | thanks | 18:16 |
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| aprice | Everyone who participates does sign an NDA so we will just be careful when disclosing any specific information. | 18:16 |
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| aprice | any other questions? | 18:17 |
| mrhillsman | i did go through all the responses for one question, will do the other two | 18:17 |
| aprice | thanks mrhillsman! | 18:17 |
| shamail | Nothing from me, thanks for leading this effort aprice | 18:18 |
| mrhillsman | i did have one feedback | 18:18 |
| mrhillsman | when trying to access the o.o/s link - not providing the entire link | 18:18 |
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| mrhillsman | outside of the link in the email, it fails | 18:19 |
| mrhillsman | which may be on purpose | 18:19 |
| mrhillsman | other than that, thanks for stepping up and leading this aprice - you all have done an amazing job and so excited to see the resulting work | 18:20 |
| VW | agreed! | 18:20 |
| aprice | mrhillsman I will check with Jimmy, but I think it is on purpose because of the confidentiality behind it | 18:20 |
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| mrhillsman | gotcha, i thought so | 18:20 |
| mrhillsman | anything else on this topic? | 18:20 |
| zioproto | I just arrived | 18:20 |
| mrhillsman | welcome sir | 18:20 |
| aprice | nope that is all from me. feel free to ping me on IRC or via email if any other questions come up in the meantime | 18:20 |
| shamail | hi zioproto | 18:20 |
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| zioproto | I am reading the history. I will be in sync in a few seconds | 18:20 |
| VW | welcom zioproto | 18:20 |
| shamail | Thanks again aprice | 18:21 |
| mrhillsman | alright, moving, thx aprice | 18:21 |
| mrhillsman | #topic Open Discussion | 18:21 |
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| mrhillsman | seanhandley would you like a moment? | 18:21 |
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| seanhandley | Thanks mrhillsman | 18:21 |
| seanhandley | I just dropped in to give the UC a quick heads up about the upcoming OpenStack Passport Program | 18:21 |
| seanhandley | we're planning to officially announce it on the UC ML tomorrow | 18:22 |
| seanhandley | and lsell suggested bringing it up today in this meeting :-) | 18:22 |
| seanhandley | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/OpenStack_Passport_desc_draft | 18:22 |
| seanhandley | It's very much a WIP but all thoughts/contributions very welcome | 18:23 |
| seanhandley | We have a phase 1 planned for Sydney which will be quite lightweight and then a more involved technical side to be worked on in the next cycle | 18:23 |
| lsell | The goal for the Sydney Summit is basically to launch a new landing page at o.o /passport that indexes and promotes any free trial programs for OpenStack public clouds | 18:24 |
| lsell | openstack.org/passport... | 18:24 |
| shamail | Is a CC required for trial activation (or up to the provider)? | 18:24 |
| seanhandley | right now it's up to the provider | 18:24 |
| lsell | It will likely be required for many of the trial programs. It depends on the provider | 18:24 |
| seanhandley | but as a public cloud operator I can tell you it's highly likely they'll all do CC activation | 18:25 |
| shamail | Got it, I wonder if that is something to list on the landing page (to let users know before they try to sign up) | 18:25 |
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| seanhandley | (just to weed out the fraudsters) | 18:25 |
| shamail | I would expect that too seanhandley | 18:25 |
| lsell | Yes, that's a great point | 18:25 |
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| seanhandley | agreed - good idea shamail | 18:25 |
| lsell | We're hoping to add helpful resources to the landing page, focused on developer tools for the different cloud platforms, any relevant tutorials, etc. | 18:25 |
| zioproto | aprice: late question on previous topic. The idea is to use the tool until friday to give proper tags to the data ? or just look at the data and understand what usefull information can be extracted ? thanks for clarify :) | 18:26 |
| lsell | We want to make the user experience as positive as possible, so any ideas to best set expectations or help them through the process are appreciated | 18:26 |
| mrhillsman | friday is deadline for reviewing the initial 3 questions | 18:26 |
| shamail | lsell: It might also be interesting to link it from the workload ref architectures page as well… for example: Interested in trying out a three tier web app, click this link to follow this ref. arch step by step | 18:26 |
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| mrhillsman | there is an associated excel/sheet to extract useful data zioproto | 18:27 |
| shamail | This program is great news overall, kudos on launching it seanhandley…. We should try to figure out how to get local user groups to promote its availability as well | 18:27 |
| mrhillsman | i like that shamail | 18:27 |
| seanhandley | +1 | 18:27 |
| seanhandley | and thank you :) | 18:27 |
| zioproto | ok, I'll ping people on #openstack-uc when I am at it, so if I have doubt about what to do I will ask directly | 18:27 |
| seanhandley | it's very much a community effort | 18:27 |
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| zioproto | I am going to Openstack Days in Italy in two weeks, do we have any information about this program that I can present at the event ? | 18:28 |
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| lsell | good idea shamail | 18:28 |
| seanhandley | That'd be great zioproto | 18:28 |
| seanhandley | zioproto: Are you free on Wednesday 1400UTC ? | 18:28 |
| zioproto | is there already a openstack passport page ? | 18:28 |
| seanhandley | We have an IRC meeting in #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:29 |
| seanhandley | and we're currently planning an agenda for OpenStack Days UK and Nordic for the Passport Program whiteboarding process | 18:29 |
| seanhandley | there isn't a passport page yet | 18:29 |
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| shamail | #info OpenStack Passport Program meets on IRC (#openstack-meeting-3) at 1400UTC on Wednesdays… join for more info. | 18:29 |
| lsell | zioproto: i will also be at the event in Italy & would love to catch up and can share my knowledge of the program with you | 18:29 |
| zioproto | seanhandley: I am supposed to be in vacation to the 20th of september ... but if I am bored and online I ll be there :) | 18:29 |
| seanhandley | ok great :) | 18:30 |
| seanhandley | the passport page is due to be launched at the Sydney Summit | 18:30 |
| aprice | zioproto by Friday, the idea would be to give proper tags to the data | 18:30 |
| zioproto | lsell: great ! come up to talk to me if I dont recognize you ! | 18:30 |
| mrhillsman | are there any specific things we can do to ensure the success of the program seanhandley ? | 18:30 |
| seanhandley | so we'll be getting public clouds on the hook first with their landing pages and approved trial account processes (we're vetting the UX) | 18:30 |
| mrhillsman | if you do not have any now, please keep that in mind and feel free to ask via ML or #openstack-uc | 18:30 |
| VW | seanhandley: this is great stuff | 18:30 |
| seanhandley | mrhillsman: Mention it to as many people as possible at the PTG, anyone who's attending | 18:31 |
| seanhandley | Flanders is very much involved | 18:31 |
| VW | on a side note, ping me offline so I can see if I can get anyone over here to help us jump in | 18:31 |
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| seanhandley | Will do VW | 18:31 |
| lsell | our draft timeline for the program is in this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/passport-scheme-email-draft | 18:31 |
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| seanhandley | I'm on toddler bedtime duty this evening so I need to sign off - thanks very much everyone for their support :) The WG is in #openstack-publiccloud if anyone wants to get hold of us | 18:33 |
| seanhandley | #info The WG is in #openstack-publiccloud if anyone wants to get hold of them | 18:33 |
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| shamail | Thanks seanhandley | 18:33 |
| VW | thank you seanhandley | 18:33 |
| seanhandley | o/ | 18:33 |
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| shamail | I have one item | 18:34 |
| lsell | thanks seanhandley | 18:34 |
| mrhillsman | thanks seanhandley | 18:34 |
| shamail | How should we pursue getting UC more actively engaged with local user groups? | 18:34 |
| shamail | We discussed this as something we would like to do… was wondering if anyone has an idea on how to start | 18:34 |
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| mrhillsman | maybe we can setup a time to talk with the ambassadors? | 18:35 |
| shamail | mrhillsman: +1 | 18:35 |
| zioproto | at least we should be in touch with the organizers of the local user groups | 18:35 |
| VW | yeah - that seems the best place to start | 18:35 |
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| zioproto | like set up a channel to reach out to all local user groups organizers | 18:36 |
| shamail | Is there an ambassadors ML? | 18:36 |
| lsell | that's a great idea. sonia ramza is a foundation intern who has been communicating a lot with ambassadors and is managing a regular newsletter going out to user group leaders...we could always add some language there and make her aware | 18:36 |
| VW | does every user group have an ambassador | 18:36 |
| lsell | there is an ambassadors ML, but it's private I believe... | 18:36 |
| lsell | but yes, you could send a note there. the community list is public | 18:36 |
| zioproto | ambassador == local user group organizer ??? | 18:36 |
| shamail | lsell: The newsletter would work! | 18:36 |
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| shamail | zioproto: Kind of, ambassadors are the regional sponsors/mentors for user groups so if we discuss it with them… we can reach pretty much every official user group | 18:37 |
| lsell | sonia is based in melbourne, and her email is sonia@openstack.org. i will give her a heads up to get in touch | 18:37 |
| mrhillsman | ambassador helps a group of organizers, it's a way of reducing the touchpoints with there being so many | 18:37 |
| shamail | Thanks lsell | 18:37 |
| lsell | these are the ambassadors: https://groups.openstack.org/ambassador-program | 18:37 |
| shamail | I can take the initial action item to contact Sonia | 18:37 |
| mrhillsman | #action shamail to reach out to Sonia | 18:37 |
| shamail | thx | 18:37 |
| mrhillsman | ty | 18:38 |
| mrhillsman | one more thing hehe | 18:38 |
| mrhillsman | so lsell mentioned to me which i mentioned to some not all maybe a new page being worked on to serve as a landing place for contributors | 18:39 |
| mrhillsman | there is a space for users | 18:39 |
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| shamail | great idea | 18:39 |
| mrhillsman | and going forward we should be thinking about current and future content that can go on there | 18:39 |
| shamail | mrhillsman: +1, what’s the best forum to get involved with this initiative? | 18:40 |
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| mrhillsman | the primary ask is we keep the content updated | 18:40 |
| lsell | yes, so mike perez has been the primary driver behind the new community portal, and it's basically going to replace openstack.org/community (which needs some love) | 18:41 |
| mrhillsman | lsell can correct me but i think the uc meetings will/would be | 18:41 |
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| mrhillsman | but just in general it is community effort | 18:41 |
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| mrhillsman | so "in all the places" lol | 18:41 |
| lsell | yes, it's a good space, but mike has also had some conversations on the dev mailing list. i think it would be worth getting the UC and/or ops mailing list involved to build out the "users" section | 18:41 |
| lsell | haha yes, all the places, but i'll take your recommendation | 18:42 |
| shamail | lsell: +1 | 18:42 |
| shamail | We’ll keep an eye out and we can also discuss in UC meetings as mrhillsman suggested | 18:42 |
| zioproto | my flight is boarding !! I have to leave !!! | 18:42 |
| mrhillsman | i was just thinking local user groups as well | 18:42 |
| lsell | my goal, like mrhillsman said, is to aggregate all of the important resources for users in a way that y'all can update on your own | 18:42 |
| zioproto | bye :) | 18:42 |
| mrhillsman | ciao zioproto | 18:42 |
| lsell | here's an early mockup that we're socializing at the PTG this week: https://drive.google.com/a/openstack.org/file/d/0B2BtISRMACpkd0tmZmcxcUNPQ3c/view?usp=sharing | 18:42 |
| shamail | cya zioproto | 18:43 |
| VW | safe travels zioproto | 18:43 |
| mrhillsman | but yeah, aggregating and we kind of vet the content | 18:43 |
| lsell | sorry, just updated permissions | 18:43 |
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| shamail | ignore my access request from the wrong account :x | 18:43 |
| mrhillsman | so the three pages are an example of clicking on one of the icons at the top - code being this one | 18:44 |
| mrhillsman | home > code > compute | 18:44 |
| shamail | yeah, that’s how I read it too | 18:45 |
| mrhillsman | ok great | 18:45 |
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| mrhillsman | but yeah, it is a wip, but good to just get the info out there and folks talking/thinking about it | 18:45 |
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| shamail | Nothing more from me | 18:46 |
| mrhillsman | same | 18:47 |
| lsell | awesome, well i will work with y'all as we build this out | 18:48 |
| VW | I am good as well | 18:48 |
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| mrhillsman | awesome, thx everyone | 18:48 |
| mrhillsman | #endmeeting | 18:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 11 18:48:46 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-09-11-18.02.html | 18:48 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-09-11-18.02.txt | 18:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2017/uc.2017-09-11-18.02.log.html | 18:48 |
| VW | take care, all | 18:48 |
| shamail | later | 18:48 |
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| lsell | thank you | 18:49 |
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