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| ttx | o/ | 15:00 |
| fungi | hey-o | 15:00 |
| ttx | Ping list: dhellmann, dims, fungi, tonyb, stevemar, lbragstad, smcginnis | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| lbragstad | o/ | 15:01 |
| lbragstad | happy friday | 15:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 4 15:01:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:01 |
| ttx | Meeting agenda on R-4 week at: | 15:02 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-relmgt-tracking | 15:02 |
| ttx | #topic Open library freeze exceptions | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open library freeze exceptions (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:02 | |
| * ttx loads the release reviews list | 15:02 | |
| dhellmann | that list seems to finally be down to 0 | 15:02 |
| ttx | yay | 15:02 |
| dims | o/ | 15:02 |
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| ttx | maybe time to abandon the last 4 | 15:03 |
| dims | y shipped glance_store last night 9 pm | 15:03 |
| ttx | then it will REALLY be clean | 15:03 |
| ttx | #topic Requirements FFE (to be completed before RC1s can roll) | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | last 4? | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Requirements FFE (to be completed before RC1s can roll) (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:03 | |
| ttx | dhellmann: ah sorry, the four that still appear on my dash | 15:03 |
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| ttx | which are against reno and tooling | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | ah | 15:04 |
| ttx | stalled changes | 15:04 |
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| ttx | anyway | 15:04 |
| ttx | I noted two open reqs changes earlier | 15:04 |
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| * ttx refreshes | 15:04 | |
| ttx | appears that paunch got in and glance-store on its way | 15:05 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/490870/ was just added | 15:05 |
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| * smcginnis rushes in late | 15:07 | |
| ttx | OK -2ed and commented | 15:07 |
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| ttx | feels like once the glance-store one merges we can start accepting RC1, so it's good timing | 15:07 |
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| dhellmann | ++ | 15:08 |
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| ttx | #topic Other fires | 15:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other fires (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:08 | |
| ttx | Anything else on the release status front ? | 15:08 |
| smcginnis | None that I'm aware of. | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | tonyb mentioned that there are lots of requirements updates not landed, and we still have lots of doc patches in progress, so I updated list-changes to show those for us so we can talk about any open ones when rc1 patches come in | 15:09 |
| dims | dhellmann : was there something about monasca? | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | not really a fire, but a status | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | they wanted a requirements bump for the client, let me find that | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | that landed already: https://review.openstack.org/489173 | 15:10 |
| ttx | ok | 15:10 |
| dims | cool | 15:10 |
| ttx | So let's look at next week | 15:10 |
| ttx | #topic Assign tasks for next week | 15:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Assign tasks for next week (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:10 | |
| ttx | Please see the list of tasks under R-3 | 15:10 |
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| ttx | 1- ask questions if you don't understand them | 15:11 |
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| ttx | 2- if you'd like to volunteer to cover (some) of them that would be great | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | we usually wait for the 6-7 older projects to branch and count that as the "minimum" set | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | the stuff installed by default, I guess? | 15:12 |
| ttx | damn silly etherpad | 15:13 |
| dhellmann | what, 0 is a perfectly cromulent number | 15:13 |
| ttx | same person should probably take the whole devstack/grenade taskset | 15:13 |
| dims | i can help with the devstack branch and grenade one | 15:13 |
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| smcginnis | I can take whichever ones need attention after that. | 15:15 |
| fungi | 0 is, however, not very embiggened | 15:15 |
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| ttx | It's tricky to split since it's sequential | 15:16 |
| ttx | Oh well | 15:16 |
| dhellmann | we can stage a bunch of these changes and use depends-on though | 15:16 |
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| smcginnis | ++ | 15:16 |
| smcginnis | Do we need to contact someone on the translations team for the Zanata piece? | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Or just trust that they will take care of that? | 15:18 |
| ttx | OK, maybe we should not assign those, just make sure to strike out stuff you did and add link to corresponding review/work | 15:18 |
| smcginnis | Works for me. | 15:18 |
| ttx | It's not /a lot/ of work, but it will have to be done in a short period of time | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : in the past AJaeger just took care of it, but we may want to notify the PTL | 15:19 |
| smcginnis | ack | 15:19 |
| ttx | once things are ready, hopefully by end of week | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | yeah, this is basically all stuff to do next thursday and friday | 15:19 |
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| ttx | more likely start of next | 15:19 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:19 |
| * dhellmann notes that he is on PTO 14-18 AUg | 15:19 | |
| smcginnis | Probably poor timing, but I'm travelling next week with the ops midcycle. I expect to be online most of the time though. | 15:20 |
| ttx | I'll set aside some extra time on Thu/Fri to cover those tasks, but it will likely be more of a hot decision who does what based on who is around on channel | 15:20 |
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| dhellmann | smcginnis : this is some of the more complicated parts of the cycle process, so it would be good to include you, at least as an observer, as much as possible | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | ttx: that sounds like a good approach | 15:21 |
| dims | i'll be around all week | 15:21 |
| ttx | smcginnis: well, given that dhellmann and I are taking days/weeks the next weeks, consider yourself free to miss | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: Yeah, this seems like the important bits I would want some time with. | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | we might want to give infra a heads up that we'll have some patches we need them to approve | 15:21 |
| ttx | I mean, we'll need you and dims up on R-2 and R-1 weeks | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | ttx: I'll be here as much as possible. | 15:21 |
| smcginnis | Yep, no worries. | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | it won't be a surprise, but coordinating will be good in case some of them are planning to be out, too | 15:21 |
| ttx | so I'm fine being extra-present on R-3 to compensate for such a bad vacation timing | 15:21 |
| dims | yep ttx | 15:22 |
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| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:22 | |
| ttx | Anything else ? | 15:22 |
| ttx | Oh, PTG | 15:22 |
| dims | Any infra changes in the next 2 weeks? | 15:22 |
| ttx | we'll likely want to start preparing | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Re: PTG - what is our room situation for that? | 15:23 |
| fungi | no huge infra stuff in the next two weeks | 15:23 |
| ttx | We have a "stable/Release management / requirements" helproom | 15:23 |
| ttx | on Monday / Tuesday | 15:23 |
| smcginnis | Good, thought it would be Mon-Tue but wanted to confirm that. | 15:23 |
| ttx | for people to drop and ask questions / propose process changes / whatever | 15:23 |
| fungi | though we are preparing for the zuul v3 cut-over at the ptg and a gerrit upgrade immediately after which will require a lengthy outage | 15:24 |
| fungi | announcements have been sent to the -dev ml about both | 15:24 |
| dims | thanks fungi | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I will likely bounce back and forth between our room and the docs room those days. | 15:24 |
| * dhellmann hopes they are near each other | 15:24 | |
| ttx | The "release team" itself will meet in some room corner some day between Wed/Thu/Fri to go over the Queens work plan | 15:24 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yes, I think we'll want to have always at least one team member present, but no need for everyone | 15:25 |
| fungi | since i plan to _not_ be the infra ptl as of a couple weeks from now, i can more easily float into release automation discussions if you need | 15:25 |
| smcginnis | =2 | 15:25 |
| * ttx will bounce between that room and the TC room | 15:25 | |
| smcginnis | I hope these rooms aren't too spread out. :) | 15:25 |
| fungi | yeah, i expect to be floating between infra, tc and security team discussions probably but can also be pulled into release discussions if i get a heads up and a few minutes to shift gears | 15:26 |
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| ttx | The trick will be to make good use of the ptgbot to signal discussions in progress | 15:26 |
| smcginnis | ttx: For the "Queens work plan", is that just a matter of going through the tasks like in the pike-relmgt-trackingn and making sure the tasks and dates still line up? | 15:27 |
| ttx | smcginnis: no, it's actually building the list of things we want to change / develop during the cycle. Like https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-relmgt-plan | 15:27 |
| ttx | We have two documents basically | 15:27 |
| ttx | the plan and the tracking | 15:27 |
| ttx | Plan is more a list of tasks we sign up to do | 15:28 |
| ttx | Tracking is more the release management itself | 15:28 |
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| smcginnis | Got it, thanks | 15:28 |
| ttx | We have a number of tasks that spilled over | 15:28 |
| ttx | and a healthy backlog | 15:28 |
| ttx | We need to review both and see what we should try to achieve in Queens | 15:28 |
| ttx | (if anothing) | 15:29 |
| ttx | Usually by end of release we realize a number of things were not working | 15:29 |
| ttx | and so it's a good time to consider the changes | 15:29 |
| ttx | By end of release cycle it's too late to durably fix things, so we take notes, tracking the issues we need to solve next time at the end of the tracking document | 15:30 |
| ttx | then copy that in a queens-plan, move leftovers from the pike-plan | 15:30 |
| ttx | then go over the list at PTG | 15:30 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: I see item 9 can be removed from the backlog. | 15:31 |
| ttx | remove things we won't do, add assignees for things we should do, mark HIGH TODO things we really need to do | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | smcginnis : which section? | 15:31 |
| ttx | backlog I suspect | 15:31 |
| dhellmann | oh, backlog | 15:31 |
| smcginnis | dhellmann: In the backlog - Fix new-release YAML spacing | 15:32 |
| ttx | yay! | 15:32 |
| dhellmann | sorry, yeah, I read "backlog" as "planning doc" | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | One down. ;) | 15:32 |
| ttx | smcginnis: you're already making a big difference! | 15:32 |
| smcginnis | Hah! | 15:32 |
| ttx | alright, I guess we can close the meeting | 15:32 |
| ttx | unless anyone has anything ? | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | No I | 15:33 |
| ttx | alright then | 15:33 |
| dims | have a good weekend | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | *not | 15:33 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:33 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 4 15:33:15 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-08-04-15.01.html | 15:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-08-04-15.01.txt | 15:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-08-04-15.01.log.html | 15:33 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone! | 15:33 |
| ttx | Have a good weekend | 15:33 |
| smcginnis | Thanks! | 15:33 |
| fungi | thanks ttx! | 15:33 |
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