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andreykurilin_hi all!14:00
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andreykurilin_#startmeeting Rally14:01
rallydev-bot2[From Gitter] astarove : Hi14:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar 13 14:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is andreykurilin_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rally'14:01
hai_shihi14:01
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andreykurilin_we do not have meetings for a long time. It is time to return back that event14:02
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andreykurilin_I have several items to discuss14:02
andreykurilin_#topic Status of Rally 0.9.014:03
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andreykurilin_Rally 0.9.0 is our new release14:03
andreykurilin_We merged all features required for that release14:04
andreykurilin_but they produced some "bugs" :)14:04
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andreykurilin_our new cleanup mechanism doesn't cover the case of auto-created resources :(14:05
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andreykurilin_for example in case of booting VM with auto_assign_nic=True, Nova will assign floating IP which we don't cleanup14:05
andreykurilin_such resources doesn't match our name patterns and it is hard to identify them14:06
andreykurilin_I'll try to find the way to discover and remove such resources14:07
andreykurilin_it is only one blocker for Rally 0.9.014:07
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hai_shiDo you find some better way to resolve it?14:07
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andreykurilin_hai_shi: not yet :)14:08
andreykurilin_we should not revert your change, since it is a big step forward14:08
andreykurilin_but should add support for another method of discovering resources14:09
andreykurilin_hope, today I'll produce a PoC14:09
hai_shican we update those resources' name?14:10
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hai_shior before use it, we should tag them.14:11
andreykurilin_hai_shi: no. for example, we do not have access for creating params of floating-ip created while  "booting VM with auto_assign_nic=True", since that resource is not created by Rally itself. Nova-API does it automatically14:12
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andreykurilin_ok, let's move to the next topic14:15
andreykurilin_#topic plans for the next release14:15
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andreykurilin_Version 1.0.0 was reserved long time ago for the release of Rally that will support not-only OpenStack platforms14:15
andreykurilin_and it looks like the time is come14:16
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andreykurilin_I hope that tohin will finish refactor of credentials and deployment during the next release14:16
andreykurilin_:)14:16
chenhb_Hi14:17
andreykurilin_another things that should be finally merged: glance and cinder "services"..14:17
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andreykurilin_hi chenhb_!14:17
hai_shihi14:17
andreykurilin_also, RaaS stuff should be started and atomic actions refactoring14:18
andreykurilin_actually, we have a lot of items for the next release14:18
andreykurilin_:)14:18
hai_shia big step!14:18
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chenhb-ping14:19
andreykurilin_chenhb- pong14:19
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andreykurilin_So let's schedule Rally 1.0.0 release to the middle-end of April.14:20
hai_shiNo problem.14:21
andreykurilin_cool14:21
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chenhb-copy14:22
andreykurilin_ok, so list with items to share is finished14:22
andreykurilin_*my list14:22
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andreykurilin_any topics to discuss?14:22
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andreykurilin_#topic Free discussion14:22
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hai_shihi, andrey. Do we have some policies about disater-cleanup?14:23
hai_shiI see we have many items to do in bp of cleanup.14:23
chenhb-about service module, do we need to generate name in service?14:24
chenhb-or move to scenarios14:24
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andreykurilin_hai_shi: policies? so it is one more "nice to have" feature :) I need to revise spec for it (I do not remember work-items from it), but it looks like we need just to implement entry point for it and call cleanup mechanism with proper task uuid14:25
hai_shii see generate_name in scenarios' util serveral times.14:25
hai_shiOk, I just see some items need to do in bp.14:27
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andreykurilin_chenhb-: In most cases scenario(or context) doesn't interested in name of resource, so for simplification and unification, services should generate names by default(if name is not transmitted by scenario)14:27
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hai_shiWhy we should transmitted name by scenarios?14:28
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hai_shiuser transmited name and we didn't use it~~14:29
chenhb-If user use custom name,our new cleanup can clean them?14:30
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andreykurilin_when I said scenario, I mean python code. Setting names from task (via JSON/Yaml) should be restricted14:30
andreykurilin_chenhb-: no, our cleanup mechanism will not remove resources with custom names14:31
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hai_shihttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/432138/3/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/cinder/utils.py@43014:31
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andreykurilin_@hai_shi: we should restrict such scenarios. For checking feature of "updating name", we should accept boolean argument "update_name" via task, and call generate_random_name by in python scenario14:33
hai_shiandrey: What is your idea about this test? it is transmited name in scenario.14:33
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fungimordred: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2017-March/005240.html seems to suggest that manage-projects isn't updating. any chance you want to take a look?14:33
hai_shiok, copy that.14:34
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chenhb_ok,  keep name in python code14:34
fungioops, sorry, wrong channel :/14:34
andreykurilin_fungi: np :)14:34
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andreykurilin_chenhb: I see a lot of "reconnection" messages for you. If you have problems with IRC, you can use our gitter channel for meetings, it has configured sync-bot too14:36
chenhb_yep, nothing from me now: )14:37
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andreykurilin_about cleanups and names: Since we merged "new cleanup", let's check all scenarios and restrict setting names via tasks14:37
chenhb_copy14:38
hai_shiok14:38
andreykurilin_anything else?14:38
hai_shismall question14:39
andreykurilin_sure14:39
hai_shiwhen use auto_assign_nic, we would use the same network again and again due to the random function.14:40
hai_shiBut it is not a good way to test.14:40
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andreykurilin_hai_sho: it is not random at all:) picking random networks tries to balance the load between available networks. if you setup networks context to create N networks, where N is a number of iterations, each iteration will use separate network14:44
andreykurilin_*hai_shi14:44
hai_shiin this lines https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/neutron/utils.py#L296-L29714:44
andreykurilin_ok, so it is not about auto_assign_nic at all14:45
andreykurilin_https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/nova/utils.py#L98-L10614:45
hai_shiok, i forget details:(14:45
andreykurilin_that function is used with booting vms14:45
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hai_shiit looks better.14:47
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andreykurilin_as for neutron scenarios, some of them use https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/rally/plugins/openstack/scenarios/neutron/utils.py#L296-L297 and yes, it makes unfair situation. There are two possible solutions- adopt _get_or_create_network to do not use random (as it done in _pick_random_nic) or abandon ability to use pre-created networks14:48
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hai_shithanks, andrey. I have no other problem.14:50
andreykurilin_any other topics to discuss?14:50
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andreykurilin_ok, let's finish14:51
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andreykurilin_thanks to everyone!14:51
andreykurilin_bye14:51
andreykurilin_#endmeeting14:51
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lennyb#startmeeting third-party15:00
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lennybHello15:00
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mptacekxHello15:00
lennybhi mptacekx15:01
mptacekxhi lennyb, how it's going ?15:01
potso/15:01
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lennybwell, it's already 5pm here, so it's going pretty good :)15:02
lennybhi pots15:02
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mptacekxI have two topics to discuss today, one is a kind of problem sharing and the other one is a kind of request for help :-)15:02
lennybI have an issue with the jenkins nd nodepool15:02
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lennybI see that sometimes Jenkins starts job on the VM, that was already used and currently 'deleting' by the nodepool. I've added quiet-period to the job, but it still annoying.15:02
asselin_hi15:02
lennybhello asselin_15:02
potslennyb i have the same issue15:03
mmedvedeo/15:03
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lennybpots, any ideas how to solve it?15:03
mptacekxlennyb: nodepool should delete the node after it's finished with the first job run15:03
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potsdoes the quiet-period work?15:03
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lennybpots, it works fine, I hate spending 30sec in each job15:03
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asselin_there's supposed to be a trigger that takes the node offline...in zuul15:04
potswhere's the quiet-period documented?15:04
asselin_http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config-example/tree/zuul/openstack_functions.py#n3215:04
asselin_http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config-example/tree/zuul/layout.yaml#n5815:05
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lennybpots,https://docs.openstack.org/infra/jenkins-job-builder/definition.html15:05
lennybasselin_, thanks15:05
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potslennyb: ah, thanks15:05
lennybpots, I will try asselin_ suggestion, seems like the correct one.15:06
mptacekxis anyone from you running ci infra (zuul, nodepool) on xenial ?15:06
lennybanything else on this topic, before going to mptacekx?15:06
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mmedvedemptacekx: I never switched from trusty15:07
asselin_me 215:07
potsi am running trusty but about to try xenial15:07
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mmedvedemptacekx: I'll probably go to xenial with zuul v3 switch15:07
lennybmptaceks, me neither. What is the issue with xenial?15:07
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mptacekxwe're running mitaka cloud on trusty for intel-nfv-ci, but we want to upgrade to newton and see some strange stuff by having newton kolla cloud on trusty15:08
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mptacekxfor ci infra deployment we're using https://github.com/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci but it looks like there is no xenial support yet15:08
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mptacekxthe tricky part is how to deploy zuul, nodepool, jenkins, all together in some smart way15:09
asselin_mptacekx, yeah, I don't think upstream has 'upgraded' yet.15:09
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asselin_mtreinish, there's a single_node_ci class that does exactly that15:09
asselin_http://git.gozer.hpcloud.net/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/tree/manifests/single_node_ci.pp15:09
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asselin_mptacekx, I mean ^^15:10
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mptacekxasselin_: correct, we used this one15:10
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mptacekxbut trusty is mentioned in https://github.com/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/blob/master/doc/source/third_party_ci.rst15:10
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asselin_mptacekx, yeah, that was what it was developed/tested on15:11
mptacekxand some modules like mysql can't work with systemd15:11
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mptacekxESC[1;31mError: /Stage[main]/Mysql::Server::Service/Service[mysqld]: Provider upstart is not functional on this hostESC[0m15:11
mptacekxisn't mitaka eol 09/17 ? if not xenial, are all of you using mitaka cloud still ?15:12
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lennybmptacekx, we use cloud based on RDO latest15:12
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mmedvedewe are using mitaka. Nothing wrong with using something eol for internal cloud15:13
asselin_mptacekx, that is a separate issue....the ci infrastructure runs on it's own images...trusty, centos 7, etc....as long as the cloud can provide the requested OS.15:13
mmedvedeupgrading to new openstack is an ordeal that can span for 6 month15:13
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lennybmmedvede, it took me only few days to bring up new CI + cloud based on RDO15:14
mptacekxif I got you properly guys, it's better to stay on mitaka/trusty in coming months and upgrade to newton/xenial in another couple of months ?15:14
mmedvedelennyb: bringing up != maintaining/upgrading15:14
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mmedvedemptacekx: I think you might be mixing up provider cloud with CI infrastructure images15:15
asselin_mptacekx, no....these are 2 different things15:15
lennybmmedvede, correct, but you do you must to upgrade?15:15
mmedvedemptacekx: they are normally decoupled15:15
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mmedvedemptacekx: so upgrading one should be independent of the other15:15
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asselin_mmedvede, +115:16
asselin_you can run your ci infrastruction on any cloud that provides trusty image...doesn't have to be openstack. It can also run on baremetal.15:17
mptacekxmmedvede: If I got your point, we should be able to run newton cloud in kolla containers (controller) and having collocated zuul infra on trusty host ?15:17
mmedvedemptacekx: e.g. we have Mitaka dev cloud that we use to run our devstack VMs for testing. It would stay Mitaka for awhile. But we can run xenial infrastructure, or newer, on top of that cloud15:17
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mmedvedemptacekx: maybe with containers it is different. With VMs there is no strong coupling on OpenStack version15:18
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asselin_I need to leave early today15:18
mptacekxmmedvede: I understand that I can run any image inside our ci cloud, my concern is whether I can reliably run newton kolla cloud on trusty if there is no known way how to deploy ci infra on xenial15:19
lennybasselin_, thanks for coming15:19
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mmedvedemptacekx: so why do you need CI infra on Xenial to be able to run newton kolla cloud? How is CI infra OS (e.g. what os zuul /nodepool runs on) affects your ability to run kolla?15:21
mmedvedeand where is that newton kolla cloud? I am a bit confused :)15:21
mptacekxmmedvede: we're collocating ci infra & ci cloud controller15:21
mmedvedeoh15:21
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mmedvedeyes, than you are coupled15:22
mptacekxI know better word :-)15:22
lennybmptacekx, can you bring new VM for CI only15:23
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mptacekxwe might consider this option if it's broadly used in other setups ....15:23
lennybIMHO it easier to maintain15:24
lennybwe have cloud with VMs, when 1 of them is CI15:24
lennyband others are nodepool vms for jenkins15:24
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mptacekxwhat about having CI infra (zuul, nodepool, jenkins) running on single VM, and cloud controller on another or even baremetal ...15:25
mmedvedemptacekx: building CI infra and your cloud controller inside the same server (without containers/VMs) would bring problems. Usually you want separation15:25
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mmedvedemptacekx: +1, you can have zuul/nodepool/jenkins in VM15:26
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mptacekxthanks a lot, I think it's fully answering my question15:26
lennybmptacekx, anything else you wanted to discuss?15:27
mptacekxlennyb: just a single topic, we faced some issue last week on devstack15:27
mptacekxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/167114415:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1671144 in devstack "test-requirements are wrongly installed system-wide" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Radek Zetik (radekx-zetik)15:27
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mptacekxand we're providing fix for that in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444788/, it's FYI in this round if someone else is also affected15:28
lennybmptacekx, thanks for bringing this up.15:28
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lennybbtw, asselin_ proposal regarding single-node-use will not work for us, since zuul triggers multijob :(15:29
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lennybmptacekx, mmedvede, pots anything else you would like to discuss?15:30
potsis there a list of pinned versions somewhere that are recommended with puppet-openstackci?15:30
potse.g. should zuul be pinned?15:31
mptacekxlennyb: thanks, nothing from my side15:31
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mmedvedepots: zuul should be pinned, not sure if it is documented15:32
potsor nodepool?  neither of these were pinned when i installed a new CI a few weeks ago15:32
potscan you recommend any values?15:32
lennybpots, this is what we use http://paste.openstack.org/show/602521/15:32
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potsthanks, i'll try those15:33
mmedvedepots: https://github.com/openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci/blob/master/contrib/single_node_ci_data.yaml15:33
potsthat's it for me15:33
mmedvedenodepool, zuul, jjb are pinned there15:33
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lennybp.s. we succeed to use common CI on internal project ( had to modify few things locally )15:34
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lennybIf there is nothing more to discuss, I wish you all the best and see you next week.15:35
mmedvedethanks lennyb15:35
potsthanks everybody!15:35
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lennyb#endmeeting15:35
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rakhmerov#startmeeting Mistral16:01
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d0ugalHello!16:01
ddejao/16:01
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d0ugalo/16:01
tourehello16:01
rakhmerovooh, a bunch of people today :)16:01
rakhmerovthis makes me happy16:02
apetricho/16:02
toureDST is causing havoc on the calendar16:02
d0ugaltoure: hah, indeed :)16:02
rakhmerovook, the main thing I'd like to do today is sort of a small planning session but let's start with action items and current statuses first16:03
rakhmerov#topic Review action items16:03
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rakhmerov..checking if we had any AIs16:03
rakhmerov1. rakhmerov: send an invitation to team members to a weekly meeting16:04
rakhmerovwoops..16:04
rakhmerovd0ugal: what was it supposed to be? Do you remember?16:04
d0ugalrakhmerov: calendar invite16:04
rakhmerovI probably forgot exactly because we decided not to send invitations anymore16:04
rakhmerovaaah!! yes16:04
rakhmerovok16:04
rakhmerov#action rakhmerov: send an invitation to team members to a weekly meeting16:04
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rakhmerov2. rakhmerov: assign "Error analysis BP" to Toure16:05
rakhmerovdone16:05
rakhmerov3. d0ugal to find tests that change coverage randomly16:05
rakhmerovd0ugal: I guess it's in progress, right?16:05
d0ugalI spent some time looking into that, and I ran out of ideas.16:05
rakhmerovand probably it's not supposed to be just in meeting action items, it's rather a bug or BP16:05
d0ugalso I gave up16:05
d0ugalYeah, I should create a bug.16:06
rakhmerov#action d0ugal: file a bug about finding tests changing coverage randomly16:06
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rakhmerov#topic Current status (what was done last week, roadblocks, plans)16:06
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mgershend0ugal: what was the result of the automation?16:06
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mgershend0ugal: did you remove all tests and coverage still failed?16:07
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d0ugalmgershen: yeah, so I think it is in the shared code between tests16:07
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d0ugalmgershen: it seems that it changed whatever tests were removed.16:07
rakhmerovmy status: housekeeping in Launchpad, partially done Workflow Global Context BP, fixed a bug about not overriding workflow json default input values, made refactoring of workflow/input validation16:08
mgershend0ugal: what do you mean "it seems that it changed whatever tests were removed."?16:08
rakhmerovkeep working on workflow global context16:08
rakhmerov:)16:08
mgershenmy status: got pulled to do internal corporate stuff again...16:09
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rakhmerovok, please share your statuses16:09
d0ugalmgershen: well, I don't really know - but basically the script didn't work :-D I can run it again and show you after if you want.16:09
tourestatus: Error analysis example draft report being put together16:09
rakhmerovtoure: need any assistance?16:10
tourerakhmerov not yet16:10
rakhmerovok16:10
d0ugalNothing much to report for me, I have started looking into the openstack actions - I am going to propose a small spec that covers the move to mistral-extra. I should have a first draft up soon16:10
mgershend0ugal: I might want to after I finish the mistral client test (after I finish the internal stuff).16:10
rakhmerovd0ugal: that's good16:10
d0ugalmgershen: sure, it would be good to look at it with somebody else, I felt like I was going mad :)16:10
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rakhmerovd0ugal: np, please do go mad )16:11
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apetrichstatus: just joined the team. Did some benchmarking for the get parameters action and now setting some caching .16:11
rbradystatus: good discussion on ML re: custom actions.  Patch updating.  finishing up porting over serialization framework and tests.  plan to work on keystone_utils port to mistral-extra next16:11
tourerakhmerov: thanks, working on coming up with a relational layout for the structure, will posted what I have today for review16:11
mgershend0ugal: I feel you. specially since other projects claim it is working fine for them.16:11
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rakhmerovapetrich: hey, not sure if we talked before?16:12
rakhmerovapetrich: you're from Red Hat?16:12
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mgershenapetrich: welcome to mistral16:12
apetrichrakhmerov, yeah. sorry if the status is a bit too tripleo specific16:12
rakhmerovyes, welcome )16:12
apetrichrakhmerov, aye red hatter16:13
rakhmerovapetrich: that's totally ok, this is something that I'd like to know better actually16:13
apetrichcheers16:13
rakhmerovcool16:13
rakhmerovrbrady, d0ugal: yeah, just one suggestion about mistral api thing16:13
d0ugalrakhmerov: the custom actions api?16:13
thrashno mistral-related status from me.16:14
rakhmerovlet's work on it iteratively, let's not be too picky about design etc. I'd prefer we let it in easier now, we'll have time to improve/refactor etc.16:14
rakhmerovit doesn't mean though that we should merge really raw stuff16:14
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rakhmerovd0ugal: yeah16:14
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rakhmerovso yes, I just want we to keep moving with this16:15
d0ugalrakhmerov: sure, makes sense - I'm always looking to get the smallest working this landed :)16:15
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rakhmerovyep, even if something is not ready and/or we have doubts let's merge and improve later16:16
rakhmerovas long as it's experimental we're good16:16
d0ugaltrue16:16
rakhmerovonce we're satisfied we'll make it official16:16
rbradyrakhmerov: ack16:16
rakhmerovok16:16
rakhmerovbefore we go to the next topic, is there anything urgent that you'd like to bring up to discussion?16:17
rakhmerovnot maybe even urgent, but important (in case you don't want to wait another 30 min)16:17
rakhmerovok16:18
rakhmerovthen let's do a little bit of planning16:18
rakhmerov#topic Pike 1 planning16:18
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rakhmerovpike-1 page: https://launchpad.net/mistral/+milestone/pike-116:19
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rakhmerovso this is the stuff I selected for pike-1 based on my vision only16:19
rakhmerovwe can change here anything we want16:20
rakhmerovplease take a look and see if tasks assigned to you seem feasible to do within a month16:20
rakhmerovthe deadline for pike-1 ends on April 1416:21
rakhmerovanother thing: is there something that you would like to include that's not there?16:21
rakhmerovbtw, I didn't really pay a lot of attention to bugs, mostly BPs. I'll probably remove some bugs from pike-116:22
rakhmerovand we need to do a bug triaging (separately, maybe next meeting)16:22
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d0ugal+116:22
mgershenrakhmerov: so soon?16:23
rakhmerovso, pike-1 ends in just a month from now, then pike-2 will be 2.5 months long16:23
rakhmerovmgershen: soon what? )16:23
rakhmerovooh, yes16:23
mgershenpike-1 ends16:23
mgershendo you have dates for pike-2 and etc?16:23
rakhmerovyep, because it was actually started some time ago16:24
rakhmerovhere it is: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html16:24
rakhmerovyes, so, pike 2 and 3 will be long16:24
rakhmerovd0ugal: please review all things assigned to you. I'm not sure if their real status is in LP16:25
d0ugalrakhmerov: Yeah, I was just wondering about them too!16:26
d0ugalwill do16:26
rakhmerovwe actually all need to do this, please review all your tasks and update their statuses16:26
rakhmerovok16:26
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rakhmerovso, is the set of tasks looking good so far? :)16:27
rakhmerovany comments maybe?16:27
rakhmerovI guess I'm pretty confident about stuff assigned to me16:27
rakhmerovooh, btw, we can change assignment either16:27
rakhmerovif you'd like to work on something that's not in the list pls let us know16:28
rakhmerovrbrady: do you think we'll finish https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-actions-api-main-entities in a month?16:29
d0ugalI think it looks good, but I need to spend some time reviewing it16:29
d0ugalrakhmerov: define "finished" :)16:29
rakhmerovd0ugal: ok, np16:29
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rakhmerovd0ugal: well, on this particular BP, we need to have mistral-lib ready for action development16:29
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rakhmerovat least the first version of it16:30
d0ugalYup16:30
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d0ugalI can't speak for rbrady but I think it we will have the first version at least.16:30
rbradyrakhmerov: I do.  I have incorporated all of the feedback thus far for the current patch.16:30
rakhmerovI didn't assign other sub tasks of Actions API to pike 1, just want to be more or less conservative16:30
rakhmerovI did assign them to pike 2 and 316:31
rbradyrakhmerov: enough we could start mistral depending on it16:31
rakhmerovrbrady: great :) Then do you think we need to include into pike 1 anything else from Actions API?16:31
rakhmerovsay executor and/or engine changes?16:32
rakhmerovOpenStack actions to mistral-extra?16:32
rakhmerovok16:32
rbradyrakhmerov: openstackactions, keystone)utils port to mistral-extra16:32
rakhmerovif we have some extra time in pike 1 I think we can discuss details of the future work16:32
d0ugalrakhmerov: I'm not sure the OpenStack actions will have moved by then - I want to make progress, but there is lots of work to be done first.16:32
rakhmerovmistral-extra etc16:32
d0ugalyeah16:32
rakhmerovd0ugal: agree fully16:33
rakhmerovok16:33
rakhmerovd0ugal: it's good that you wanted to focus on the spec for mistral-extra, it's just a good time for that16:33
d0ugalit will make it easier for me :)16:33
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rakhmerovd0ugal: maybe we should even file a blueprint for the spec so we could track the progress16:33
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d0ugalrakhmerov: I think there is a blueprint.16:34
rakhmerovhm.. ok, maybe16:35
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d0ugalrakhmerov: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-actions-api-separate-openstack-actions16:35
rakhmerovooh, it's for the task itself16:35
rakhmerovI meant for writing a spec specifically )16:35
d0ugaloh, another blueprint to write a spec?16:35
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d0ugalah, sure - if that is useful.16:35
d0ugalI was just going to reference that blueprint16:35
rakhmerovyeah, not sure though16:35
rakhmerovI just wanted to track this work somehow16:35
rakhmerovbecause spec work pretty often gets lost to be honest16:36
d0ugalrakhmerov: We could asign that blueprint to me, change it to pike 1 and then we can move it to pike 2 later for the rest of the work?16:36
rakhmerovsomeone is writing a spec and then it just disappears under the pile of comments16:36
rakhmerovd0ugal: works for me16:36
d0ugalhah16:36
d0ugalrakhmerov: I think you need to assign it16:36
rakhmerovdone16:37
d0ugalThanks16:37
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rakhmerovI will also talk to Winson, he will take 1-2 BPs I guess16:39
rakhmerovthey are interested in 3 things: sensitive data issue, actions running by engine, task explicit params (aka branch specific shortcut for publish)16:39
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rakhmerovok, so please should you have any additional comments/wishes on our priorities try to let me know sooner than later16:40
rakhmerovd0ugal: would you like to bring up what you mentioned today?16:41
rakhmerovabout meeting time?16:41
d0ugalSure16:41
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d0ugalMy motivation is very selfish, but in two weeks when the clocks change for daylight savings the meeting time will be less convenient for me.16:42
d0ugaland I think it will be for others as it becomes an hour later16:42
d0ugalso I'd like to propose we move it an hour earlier.16:42
d0ugalIf there are no objections here, I'll propose it on openstack-dev to check with people that couldn't make it today.16:43
rbradyI have no objection16:43
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rakhmerovd0ugal: I have a different suggestion: let's decide it right now16:43
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d0ugalhah, sure16:43
toure1+16:44
rakhmerovbecause seems like we have a good representation today, pretty much everyone who usually attends meetings16:44
rakhmerovmgershen: how about you Michal?16:44
mgershenit's fine by me, is the room available?16:44
d0ugalis ddeja around?16:44
ddejad0ugal: \o16:44
rakhmerovI'm also ok with the proposed change16:44
d0ugalddeja: we are talking about moving the meeting an hour earlier because of DST. Does that work for you? :)16:44
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ddejad0ugal: yes16:45
d0ugalmgershen: that is a good question - I think the room isn't.16:45
rakhmerovd0ugal: do you want to change it in 2 weeks or starting the next meeting?16:45
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d0ugalrakhmerov: I don't mind - I am just trying to find out where the IRC availability is listed.16:45
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rakhmerovd0ugal: it should be possible to create a new room if we really need16:45
rakhmerovafaik16:46
ddejawe can even have meeting on #openstack-mistral16:46
ddejathere is an openstack bot there16:46
rakhmerovyeah :)16:46
rakhmerovthat's right16:46
d0ugaloh, cool16:46
rakhmerovbtw, I wonder why we're not doing it yet )16:47
ddejaI don't know16:47
rakhmerovwhy do we need all those shared rooms? )16:47
rakhmerovit seems mostly a traditional thing to me16:47
ddejaI guess it's like in the experiment with monkeys, ladder and bananas16:47
mgershend0ugal: is this what you were lookin for: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/16:47
d0ugalrakhmerov: when projects get busy it can be confusing if a meeting is going on and other people are just coming to ask questions at the same time16:47
rakhmerovapetrich: is it ok for you as well?16:48
d0ugalbut I think normally #openstack-mistral is quiet enough16:48
rakhmerovd0ugal: at this time of the day yes16:48
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rakhmerovit is16:48
apetrichrakhmerov, aye16:48
d0ugalrakhmerov: I suspect an hour earlier is better for apetrich too, he is the closest person to me :)16:48
apetrich:)16:48
rakhmerovooh, really? where?16:48
apetrichrakhmerov, about one hour away by car. Also Scotland16:49
rakhmerovawesome )16:49
apetrichDundee :)16:49
rakhmerovI'd like to visit those places one day16:49
rakhmerovalright :)16:49
rakhmerovso, decided16:50
mgershenit seem #openstack-meeting-3 is available at Monday at 1500 UTC16:50
rakhmerovd0ugal: can you please send an announcement about the meeting time/room change?16:50
d0ugalmgershen: that is the page I was looking for, but I don't understand how to read it lol16:50
d0ugalrakhmerov: sure16:51
rakhmerovooh, btw16:51
rakhmerovI just recalled something16:51
d0ugalrakhmerov: I guess I need to find all the places to update it too16:51
d0ugalrakhmerov: do you want it in #openstack-mistral or #openstack-meeting-3?16:51
rakhmerovbasically, we'll have to make a patch to some repo and CI will check the requested room's availability16:51
rakhmerov:)16:51
mgershenI just assumed the format of each meeting is the same and searched for "Monday at 1500 UTC" and then looked what rooms are free.16:51
rakhmerovso not sure if #openstack-mistral will be ok from TC perspective16:52
mgershenoffical rooms listed here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings16:52
rakhmerovthere's some governance around it16:52
d0ugalokay, thanks - I'll try and find us an "official" meeting room then16:52
mgershenrakhmerov: lets try moving to #openstack-meeting-3?16:52
d0ugal+116:53
rakhmerovd0ugal: check availability of rooms for team meeting at 15.00 UTC16:53
rakhmerov#action d0ugal: check availability of rooms for team meeting at 15.00 UTC and send an announcement16:53
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rakhmerovok16:53
rakhmerovso d0ugal, do you want to change it now or in 2 weeks?16:54
d0ugalI don't mind.16:54
d0ugalIt might be confusing to change it the week before DST because then it will change again the next week16:55
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rakhmerovok, for me earlier would be even better16:55
rakhmerovooh, makes sense )16:55
d0ugalI am happy to change now.16:55
rakhmerovbut at least UTC won't change )16:55
d0ugalindeed16:56
d0ugalokay, so lets change now16:56
rakhmerovyeah16:56
rakhmerovthanks16:56
d0ugalrakhmerov: and I guess you can send out the calendar invite for the new meeting time.16:56
rakhmerovok guys, is there anything else for today? 3 mins left16:56
d0ugalNothing from me.16:56
ddejaI have one short16:56
rakhmerovd0ugal: good point16:56
rakhmerovI will16:56
rakhmerovddeja: go ahead16:57
ddejaI'd just like to inform you, that I started working on another project in my company. So I'll be less active it Mistral developement and/or reviews.16:57
ddejaas you propably noticed ;)16:57
rakhmerovddeja: sad to know, but thanks for letting us know16:57
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rakhmerovI'd be happy to have you back if you can and want16:57
d0ugalddeja: +1, that is a shame but hopefully the new project is fun :)16:58
rakhmerov:)))16:58
ddejarakhmerov: I will see16:58
mgershen+116:58
rakhmerovddeja: if you don't mind I'd like to discuss a couple of things with you about the tasks that you worked on16:58
ddejarakhmerov: sure, I will have some time tommorow16:58
rakhmerovnot expecting any coding though, just want to clarify a few things16:58
rakhmerovok, thanks16:59
ddejayeah, sure16:59
rakhmerovthanks Dawid16:59
ddejano problem16:59
rakhmerovddeja: just want to say a huge THANK YOU! :)16:59
ddejathanks :)16:59
rakhmerovhonestly, you did an amazing job on RPC thing, fixing bugs, reviews and investigating endless number of things with gates17:00
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rakhmerovok, need to finish17:00
rakhmerovthanks to everyone for joining17:00
rakhmerovhave a wonderful week17:00
rakhmerovbye17:00
ddejathank you all17:00
rakhmerov#endmeeting17:00
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mgershenbye17:00
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d0ugalThanks!17:01
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tourebye guys17:01
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mriedemstable team meeting here?20:59
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mriedemsigmavirus: tonyb: stable meeting? or do we skip?21:03
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