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| ekcs | time for congress meeting. thinrichs ramineni masahito aimeeu | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:02 |
| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 00:02:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | hi thinrichs | 00:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | hi all! hope everyone’s having a good week. | 00:03 |
| ekcs | the items i have are pretty simple. | 00:03 |
| aimeeu | hi all | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | - Ocata-3 | 00:04 |
| ekcs | - Ocata RC1 | 00:04 |
| ekcs | - Ocata patches | 00:04 |
| ekcs | - Ocata bugs | 00:04 |
| ekcs | anything else? | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | Planning for PTG | 00:04 |
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| masahito | hi all. sorry, late. | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | ok great. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | first just a quick announcement: congress client for ocata was released on Monday. If there’s any really important change we need to release we could still do that today or tomorrow. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | #topic Ocata-3 | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | Ocata-3 is due this week. I expect to tag a hash for release today. | 00:09 |
| ekcs | There’s been a fair amoutn of activity on master over the past week. | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | Let’s see how much we can get merged by end of today (UTC) and we can run some final quick tests and tag the release. | 00:10 |
| ekcs | does that make sense? any comments or thoughts? | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | is there anything that MUST go into Ocata-3? | 00:11 |
| masahito | make sense | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | We're trying to merge as many things into master as we can today? | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | Happy to review. I presume only some of the changes in master are ready to go in though. | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | Maybe the top half of this list? | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/congress+status:open | 00:14 |
| ekcs | there’s no particular rush for today. but it’s helpful to merge when ready. and all the better if included in O3. | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | Maybe stopping at the Jan 23 commits? | 00:14 |
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| ekcs | makes sense. | 00:16 |
| ekcs | ok we can discuss specific patches later. but let’s move on if there are no Ocata-3 MUSTs. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | #topic Ocata RC1 | 00:17 |
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| ekcs | just another reminder that we’re on a very abbreviated schedule. and RC1 is due next neek. | 00:18 |
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| ekcs | so please keep that in mind in planning and bug fixes. | 00:18 |
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| ekcs | what’d be a good cut-off day for merging changes for RC1? | 00:19 |
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| thinrichs | Typically we do it the other way around: we cut RC1 as soon as all the known blocking bugs are fixed. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | Then we do another round of testing, and if we find no release-blockers we're done. Otherwise, we fix the bugs, cut RC2, and do it again. | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | The devil is in the details of defining what a 'release-blocking bug' is | 00:22 |
| ekcs | i see. that makes sense. | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | I guess we can go through the bugs and target all the must-fix bugs for RC1. | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | and discuss evyr launchpad if we’re not sure. does that make sense? | 00:24 |
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| thinrichs | sure | 00:26 |
| masahito | got it. | 00:26 |
| ekcs | #action go through bugs and target for RC1. https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bugs?orderby=-importance&start=0 | 00:27 |
| ekcs | ok then let’s move on. | 00:27 |
| ekcs | #topic PTG planning | 00:27 |
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| ekcs | I haven’t though very much about PTG planning. But I guess we should at least start coming up with what needs to be done in the planning. | 00:28 |
| aimeeu | I've added items to the etherpad. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | Quick scan of the High priority bugs—I'd say most of those will either not be fixed in Ocata3 or are in review and in good shape. | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | Someone have the PTG etherpad link handy? | 00:29 |
| aimeeu | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-ptg-pike | 00:29 |
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| thinrichs | aimeeu: thanks! | 00:29 |
| ekcs | thanks! | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | There's a ton of stuff already there | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | thanks aimeeu! | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | (and whoever else contributed) | 00:30 |
| aimeeu | bryan_att has copious notes from Barcelona | 00:31 |
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| aimeeu | I need to do some cleanup of his notes and prioritize | 00:31 |
| ekcs | yea that’s great for how many topics we have. | 00:31 |
| aimeeu | so it's pretty much going to be 2 days of free-form discussion, right? no plans to divide up the day to cover specific topics (which might be limiting) | 00:32 |
| ekcs | next step is divide up the things we want to discuss into a rough schedule/agenda for the two days? | 00:33 |
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| ekcs | aimeeu: there’s no need for strict sessions, but it’s probably still helpful to have some idea which topics we’ll discuss on which day | 00:33 |
| aimeeu | I agree | 00:33 |
| ekcs | ok i’ll work on that and have something we can discuss next meeting. | 00:34 |
| aimeeu | thanks ekcs! | 00:34 |
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| ekcs | #action ekcs organize PTG topics | 00:35 |
| ekcs | #action everyone interested add to PTG topics https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-ptg-pike | 00:35 |
| ekcs | anything else we should discuss now on PTG? | 00:35 |
| aimeeu | are most of you planning to fly home on Friday? | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | Yep. First thing in the morning if I remember right | 00:36 |
| ekcs | I’m staying till Saturday. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | Getting in Sunday and staying till saturday. | 00:37 |
| aimeeu | Same here | 00:37 |
| masahito | I'll leave there on Saturday | 00:37 |
| ekcs | ok then. | 00:38 |
| ekcs | let’s move on = ) | 00:39 |
| ekcs | #topic Ocata patches and bugs | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | any patches that need discussion so we can make progress? | 00:39 |
| ekcs | any bugs we want to discuss? regarding priority or root causing or whatever. | 00:40 |
| aimeeu | has anyone stacked very recently using ocata master? | 00:40 |
| aimeeu | I stacked twice today and doesn't seem to be installing correctly in DevStack | 00:41 |
| aimeeu | wondering if it's me or an issue | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: what's the symptom? | 00:41 |
| ekcs | aimeeu: I think I last stacked a week ago. | 00:41 |
| aimeeu | The congress dashboard doesn't appear in the openstack dashboard for one | 00:41 |
| aimeeu | I need to try some CKI calls | 00:42 |
| aimeeu | s/CKI/CLI | 00:42 |
| masahito | aimeeu: I stacked when I start devstack without aodh service. | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | aimeeu: that’s weird hmm. so dashboard worked just didn’t show congress stuff? | 00:45 |
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| aimeeu | correct - no congress dashboard | 00:45 |
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| aimeeu | devstack should have installed the python-congressclient too, right? | 00:46 |
| ekcs | aimeeu: for me it does. and cloned the congressclient repo into /opt/stack/. | 00:47 |
| aimeeu | hmmmm no congress anything in /opt/stack - rechecking my local.conf | 00:47 |
| ekcs | anyway that’s strange cuz I don’t see any dashboard changes over the past week. i’ll let you knowwhen I stack again. | 00:47 |
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| aimeeu | ok - i'll start all over - fresh everything - maybe a spelling mistake | 00:48 |
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| ekcs | aimeeu: feel free to send me your local.conf for a look if you think it might help. | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | The path /opt/stack usually has both congress/ and python-congressclient/, right? | 00:49 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: that’s my experience. | 00:49 |
| aimeeu | Thanks ekcs. It's been a long day. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | unrelated: I ran into this very mysterious bug this week. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1659440 | 00:50 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659440 in congress "Erratic row list behavior with cross-policy rule" [High,New] | 00:50 |
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| ekcs | seems with certain rules in place, listing the rows of a policy table gives erratic and changing results. sometimes with more or fewer tuples. sometimes says table doesn’t exist. | 00:50 |
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| ekcs | could be a serious thing so i’m going to prioritize understanding it. just want to mention in case others have ideas on what to look for. | 00:51 |
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| ekcs | in this case, it specifically happened with this rule: u(x,y) :- q(x,y), NOT policy2:a(x,y) | 00:51 |
| ekcs | could have something to do with our cross-policy reference fix not subscribing immediately. maybe some strange repeating interactions going on there. | 00:52 |
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| ekcs | anyway let’s go to open discussion. | 00:54 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | just a fetw minutes left so shoot if you have anything = ) | 00:54 |
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| thinrichs | That's a CRAZY bug. | 00:55 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: yea… = / | 00:55 |
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| thinrichs | If a table stops existing, that's pretty bad because it means the rule is missing too, right? | 00:55 |
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| thinrichs | Is there some sort of oscillation going on with the synchronization? | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | I assume that's multi-PE | 00:56 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: hmm i didn’t think to check the rule at the some time. but I never saw the rule not get listed. | 00:56 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: but then rule listing is probably from DB not PE. | 00:56 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: no the crazy thing is this is all-in-one. | 00:56 |
| ekcs | single PE. | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs | We should definitely track that down. | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | Can you replicate with another policy? | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | Does that happen for ALL the tables in that policy or just the table with the cross-policy reference? | 00:57 |
| ekcs | one more thought: please shoot PTG planning suggestions/requests/thoughts my way if anything come to mind. | 00:57 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: that’s the next step for me is trying out all these different things | 00:58 |
| ekcs | to get a really good grasp of what’s going on. I think it neverhappened with another table. only u. | 00:58 |
| ekcs | so I suspect it’s something to do with that specific rule. | 00:58 |
| ekcs | next step I’ll try to replicate in simplest form and see if I can find the exact boundaries of the problem. | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | Ok. I've never seen that before, but if u is suddenly missing that would point to the rule being removed from the in-memory PE rule-store. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | anyway time’s up. thanks everyone and see you all next week! | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | Only other thing I can think of is if there's some schema we're maintaining that gets out of sync | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 01:00 |
| ekcs | hmm. good thought. | 01:00 |
| masahito | bye | 01:00 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 01:00:35 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-01-26-00.02.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-01-26-00.02.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-01-26-00.02.log.html | 01:00 |
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| eumel8 | morning | 06:56 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, hi! | 07:16 |
| eumel8 | hey man! | 07:16 |
| eumel8 | wrong timezone? ;) | 07:16 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, right time zone :) Sorry for my late reply | 07:19 |
| eumel8 | np | 07:20 |
| eumel8 | just double checked invitation and local time | 07:20 |
| ianychoi | :) | 07:20 |
| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:21 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 07:21:11 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:21 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:21 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | #topic Translation status on Horizon and related projects affecting StringFreezes | 07:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Translation status on Horizon and related projects affecting StringFreezes (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:22 | |
| ianychoi | Finding the right command and topic name requires time :) | 07:22 |
| eumel8 | sure ;) | 07:23 |
| ianychoi | So.. for German, how is Horizon translation going? | 07:23 |
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| eumel8 | I think very good | 07:23 |
| ianychoi | Wow good :) | 07:23 |
| eumel8 | over 92 percent | 07:23 |
| eumel8 | release notes is a challenge | 07:24 |
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| eumel8 | and I finished the upstream training guide yesterday | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | I agree. Translating release notes requires more time | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, great! | 07:24 |
| eumel8 | awaiting the sync: http://docs.openstack.org/de/upstream-training/ | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-January/002686.html | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | #info creating stable version will be made after Hard StringFreeze, not this week | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | I told Ilya with incorrect information :) | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | #link http://docs.openstack.org/de/ | 07:26 |
| eumel8 | but good work from our new string freeze manager! | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | Oh there is already a link to a translated upstream training material! | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | #link http://docs.openstack.org/fr/ | 07:27 |
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| ianychoi | Recently, I have worked with jftalta to apply new theme on French landing page. | 07:27 |
| ianychoi | I think Robert will also apply themes. :) | 07:27 |
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| ianychoi | for German landing page | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | hopefully ;) | 07:27 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, hello :) | 07:27 |
| jftalta | Hi ! | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | hi jftalta, just spoken | 07:28 |
| jftalta | sorry for being late but I could not connect earlier | 07:28 |
| eumel8 | [08:27] <ianychoi> Recently, I have worked with jftalta to apply new theme on French landing page. | 07:28 |
| jftalta | yep | 07:28 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, that's fine. I started today meeting just 10 mins ago, which was late | 07:28 |
| jftalta | ok | 07:28 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, how is Horizon translation going? | 07:29 |
| ianychoi | in French? | 07:29 |
| ianychoi | For Korean, I encourage with ujuc - Korean coordinator :) | 07:30 |
| jftalta | I don't know yet. I've got yo get information... | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | Yep fine :) | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-January/002690.html | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting#Apologies_for_absence | 07:31 |
| jftalta | I guess Gerald and Corinne have begun to work | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | I am not currently pretty sure but later time (maybe Pike cycle?) I would like to communicate more with language coordinators | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | by wiki and/or e-mails | 07:31 |
| eumel8 | correct for german: it's only 86,4 % due the unfinished release notes, but django is 100% finished | 07:31 |
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| ianychoi | I got it :) | 07:33 |
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| jftalta | and when the translation is over, we will have to review | 07:33 |
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| ianychoi | Currently the following languages have higher percentage overally: Indonesian, Japanese, German, Russian, Korean, Chinese, French, Czech | 07:33 |
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| ianychoi | Very nice... Czech has also higher percentage for Horizon :) | 07:34 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-January/002692.html | 07:35 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, would you see this link? | 07:35 |
| eumel8 | who is the coordinator of the Czech team? | 07:35 |
| ianychoi | According to Zanata, Czech team coordinator is "Ondřej Nový" | 07:36 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:36 |
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| jftalta | ianychoi: yes, i saw this bug. I can fix it | 07:36 |
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| eumel8 | interesting activities, maybe have to join the OpenStack day in Prague | 07:37 |
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| ianychoi | jftalta, yep thanks for taking care of this :) | 07:37 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, jftalta I am not familiar with OpenStack Days event in European countries.. but when German and French OpenStack Days event will be held in this year (also in Prague?) | 07:38 |
| ianychoi | Foundation encourages Asian countries to held around July. | 07:38 |
| jftalta | not yet scheduled for France | 07:39 |
| ianychoi | One possible idea I think now is that eumel8 and/or jftalta can go to Czech and have a presentation for I18n contribution :) | 07:39 |
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| jftalta | good idea but i won't be possible for le :( | 07:40 |
| jftalta | *it* | 07:40 |
| eumel8 | https://www.openstack.org/community/events/openstackdays/#tab=events_tab | 07:40 |
| jftalta | *me* | 07:40 |
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| eumel8 | it's in June | 07:40 |
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| ianychoi | Aha I see | 07:41 |
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| ianychoi | Hmm.. I just imagine more offline communication with nearest countries :) | 07:42 |
| eumel8 | +1 | 07:42 |
| ianychoi | Anyway :) nice progress I think :) | 07:43 |
| eumel8 | absolutly | 07:43 |
| ianychoi | Then.. moving on open discussion? | 07:43 |
| eumel8 | yep | 07:43 |
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| ianychoi | #topic Open discussions | 07:44 |
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| eumel8 | I investigated DevStack and openstack-ansible for translation checksite again and there is no different since the last try to install the app. | 07:45 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, wow nice | 07:45 |
| eumel8 | so have to go to investigate deeper or think about other solutions | 07:45 |
| jftalta | I'm back ;) | 07:45 |
| ianychoi | Actually one I18n member asked me for translation checksite status. | 07:45 |
| ianychoi | The guy is really waiting for translation checksite | 07:46 |
| eumel8 | maybe I have time this week to install a temporary site | 07:46 |
| eumel8 | who is the guy? | 07:47 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, would it possible for you to open your test translation checksite to public? | 07:47 |
| eumel8 | sure | 07:47 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, let me see.. I need find in my e-mails | 07:47 |
| eumel8 | http://i18n.ref.app.telekomcloud.com/ - but it's down for the moment | 07:47 |
| jftalta | eumel8: it would be really, really great ! | 07:47 |
| ianychoi | Yuko Katabami - Japanese translator | 07:48 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:48 |
| jftalta | because translators need *context* to do good translations | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | I think opening to public and receiving feedback from users and also from you would make an important step to go for the next procedures.. | 07:49 |
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| eumel8 | I know, jftalta | 07:49 |
| ianychoi | Yep and also Docs team wants similar site (mainly in English) to test manuals such as install-guides | 07:50 |
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| ianychoi | So I would like to have more discussions with Docs team during PTG | 07:50 |
| eumel8 | is there no doc-dev site anymore running? | 07:51 |
| eumel8 | just wondering | 07:52 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, I am not familiar with doc-dev site.. Was there a site for such purpose? | 07:52 |
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| eumel8 | saw this in the past | 07:53 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, oh I did not know that.. I would like to ask to Docs team for this :) | 07:54 |
| jftalta | so did not I | 07:54 |
| eumel8 | similar to translation-dev. btw: what's the status? | 07:54 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, for Zanata upgrade? | 07:55 |
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| eumel8 | yes | 07:55 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, yep :) Now the review is waiting: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423367/ | 07:55 |
| jftalta | ok | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | Since this review might impact on translate.o.o, I have talked with Clark just a few hours ago that we will merge the patch to support Wildify 10 around today UTC +22:00 (I forgot exact UTC timezone) | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | It might be 21:00 UTC or 22:00 UTC | 07:57 |
| eumel8 | ah, ok | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | We will rollback right after if there will be some problem on translate.o.o | 07:57 |
| eumel8 | thats true, there is no different in module list between test and live | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | Yep after then we can test newer version of Zanata in translate-dev. | 07:58 |
| eumel8 | is puppet agent running permanently? | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | On this Monday-Tuesday we concluded that newer version of Zanata requires Wildify 10 with additional configurations | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, hmm it is difficult for me now what your puppet agent means... | 07:59 |
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| ianychoi | And.. also.. today, I started to talk with Tom about Forum discounts | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | if not then it doesn't metter the change in the module list for the running server | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | thats good | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | I think it might need more discussion, and it may relates with much more things (e.g., Foundation, User Committee) a lot | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | Once there is a good news (sometimes it might be a bad news.. I do not expect but anyway), I will share with you | 08:00 |
| jftalta | talking with Tom is a good thing :) | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | ok, thx | 08:01 |
| ianychoi | Then... let's finish today meeting :) | 08:01 |
| jftalta | ok | 08:01 |
| ianychoi | Thank you eumel8 and jftalta today! | 08:01 |
| eumel8 | so, time is over, have to leave now | 08:01 |
| eumel8 | thx also | 08:01 |
| jftalta | thx ianychoi | 08:01 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 08:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 08:01:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-01-26-07.21.html | 08:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-01-26-07.21.txt | 08:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-01-26-07.21.log.html | 08:01 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, jftalta thx! :) | 08:01 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 09:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 09:01:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:01 |
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| gmann | hi, who all here today | 09:01 |
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| zhufl | me:) | 09:01 |
| masayukig | o/ | 09:01 |
| dmellado | o/ hey gmann | 09:01 |
| gmann | dmellado: hi | 09:02 |
| gmann | zhufl: nice, thanks. | 09:02 |
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| chandankumar | Hello guys! | 09:02 |
| dmellado | hey chandankumar! | 09:02 |
| gmann | chandankumar: hi, nice to see you | 09:03 |
| dmellado | btw gmann, we should change the email to say CET and not CEST anymore | 09:03 |
| masayukig | chandankumar zhufl dmellado hi! | 09:03 |
| dmellado | I was about to miss the meeting because of that! | 09:03 |
| gitudaniel | o/ hi everyone, first time here :) | 09:03 |
| dmellado | hey masayukig!!! | 09:03 |
| masayukig | gitudaniel : welcome!! | 09:03 |
| Noam_ | hi | 09:03 |
| dmellado | welcome gitudaniel | 09:03 |
| gmann | gitudaniel: hi welcome | 09:03 |
| gmann | Noam_: hi | 09:03 |
| Noam_ | first time here also | 09:03 |
| chandankumar | masayukig: gitudaniel gmann Hello | 09:03 |
| dmellado | welcome too ;) | 09:03 |
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| gmann | dmellado: ah, ok ll change its all confusing to me always :) | 09:03 |
| gmann | let's start | 09:04 |
| dmellado | gmann: it'd be CET 10:00 | 09:04 |
| * masayukig is surprised that there are a lot of people this time | 09:04 | |
| dmellado | xD | 09:04 |
| dmellado | masayukig: heh xD | 09:04 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_January_26th_2017_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:04 |
| gmann | ^^ agenda | 09:04 |
| gmann | #topic PTG | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:04 | |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-ptg-pike | 09:05 |
| masayukig | dmellado: :) | 09:05 |
| gmann | so this is etherpad for QA PTG | 09:05 |
| gmann | lot of topic this time | 09:05 |
| gmann | it is actually nice | 09:05 |
| gmann | if anyone have more feel free to add | 09:05 |
| masayukig | gmann : cool :) | 09:06 |
| dmellado | who owns the first one? infra team? | 09:06 |
| chandankumar | gmann: just one question, can anyone attend ptg virtually also? | 09:06 |
| gmann | chandankumar: ah, i am not sure there are such arrangement | 09:06 |
| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110909.html | 09:06 |
| masayukig | dmellado: the next PTL? | 09:07 |
| gmann | ^^ this says some tooling for PTG | 09:07 |
| masayukig | I have one question, how many slots do we have? | 09:07 |
| dmellado | masayukig: maybe | 09:07 |
| dmellado | that's a goof question | 09:07 |
| dmellado | gmann: well, we can always be active at the IRC and etherpads | 09:07 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea i think clarkb gave idea and we can discuss in PTG | 09:07 |
| masayukig | great | 09:07 |
| gmann | masayukig: this time no slot, its just room book for full 2 days | 09:08 |
| dmellado | I don't see why can't we allow virtual attendees (on best effort, though) | 09:08 |
| bkopilov | good idea | 09:08 |
| gmann | chandankumar: you cannot join? | 09:08 |
| chandankumar | gmann: till now not sure! | 09:08 |
| gmann | we can allocate the group there around tables and work on each items | 09:08 |
| gmann | chandankumar: ohhk | 09:09 |
| * dmellado trying to make that happen | 09:09 | |
| masayukig | gmann: hrmm, I think we should make time slots | 09:09 |
| gmann | dmellado: great +1 | 09:09 |
| masayukig | otherwise, it will be an endless discussion :-p | 09:09 |
| dmellado | heh +1 masayukig | 09:09 |
| gmann | masayukig: so discuss can be with all attendee right | 09:09 |
| dmellado | gmann: masayukig maybe we can discuss that there | 09:10 |
| gmann | masayukig: dmellado i saw a mail on those arrangement, i think oomichi also send | 09:10 |
| dmellado | after seeing the final attendees and the amount of people interested on each topic | 09:10 |
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| gmann | dmellado: i feel better to prepare before going | 09:10 |
| dmellado | gmann: we can use the etherpad for that too | 09:10 |
| masayukig | dmellado, gmann : ok, cool | 09:11 |
| gmann | we have only 2 days and topics are more this time so we have to plan well before | 09:11 |
| dmellado | how about adding a new section | 09:11 |
| dmellado | interested: | 09:11 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:11 |
| dmellado | or something | 09:11 |
| masayukig | gmann +1 | 09:11 |
| dmellado | chandankumar: that way you'l be also able to add yourself there too | 09:11 |
| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110985.html | 09:11 |
| gmann | dmellado: nice idea, we can add that | 09:12 |
| * chandankumar added a field coowner on etherpad | 09:12 | |
| gmann | #action add interested section on PTG topics | 09:12 |
| gmann | so above mail is for discussion how arrangement will be there in PTG | 09:12 |
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| gmann | but many of them are more towards coding side so that people can just start making group on interested one and contribute | 09:13 |
| gmann | like tempest-lib, cleanup etc | 09:13 |
| gmann | so we can divide like groups working on those and in parallel discussion on other topic | 09:14 |
| masayukig | gmann: will it be like an mid-cycle meetup? | 09:14 |
| gmann | but we should not overlap the discussion topics where many people want to join all discussion | 09:15 |
| gmann | masayukig: i think mid-cycle + design sessions | 09:15 |
| dmellado | gmann: masayukig I was also thinking about how to organize the 'session' topics | 09:15 |
| dmellado | is there any idea for having actual slots? | 09:15 |
| dmellado | I'm thinking about the plugin talk | 09:15 |
| masayukig | gmann : ok | 09:15 |
| gmann | sessions need broader discussion, we can go like we used to do in design sessions | 09:15 |
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| gmann | and sessions more on just coding side can go like we used to have in mid-cycle | 09:16 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:16 |
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| chandankumar | +1 | 09:16 |
| gmann | dmellado: you mean cross project one like? | 09:16 |
| dmellado | yeah, exactly | 09:16 |
| dmellado | I'll be re-doing the plugin one, in order to summarize the discussion on the TC proposal | 09:17 |
| dmellado | mtreinish: ^^ would you like to co-present that with me too? | 09:17 |
| gmann | dmellado: that is nice point and not sure how that will go as very few people from other projects might show on first 2 days | 09:17 |
| chandankumar | gmann: dmellado we might need cross project discussion for tempest plugin side | 09:17 |
| dmellado | chandankumar: yeah, that's what I was thinking out loud | 09:17 |
| gmann | chandankumar: yea | 09:17 |
| chandankumar | IT would be also good if we get one member from each openstack project to participate so that they can start spliting tempest plugins | 09:18 |
| dmellado | chandankumar: well, I guess the talk would be a mean for that | 09:18 |
| gmann | dmellado: did you add all related projects in "Interaction with another project" | 09:18 |
| dmellado | the TC proposal have yet to be accepted | 09:18 |
| gmann | based on that we can ask projects representative for those sessions | 09:18 |
| dmellado | gmann: I guess I'd just say *all* | 09:18 |
| dmellado | I mean, that'd affect every project that has an in-tree tempest plugin | 09:19 |
| dmellado | I'll try to put out a list later on | 09:19 |
| dmellado | andreaf: didn't you already had one around? | 09:19 |
| gmann | chandankumar: that is perfect one but we do not have members from all projects :) | 09:19 |
| chandankumar | dmellado: have so many contacts, he can find out representative xD | 09:20 |
| dmellado | heh xD | 09:20 |
| gmann | but i doubt members from vertical teams will show up in mon and Tues | 09:20 |
| dmellado | gmann: I can try to bring along at least some folks, deff | 09:20 |
| gmann | yea he is all rounder | 09:20 |
| masayukig | heh | 09:21 |
| gmann | dmellado: cool | 09:21 |
| dmellado | at least neutron/manila/ironic | 09:21 |
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| gmann | ok let's figure out how we can do cross projects sessions efficiently | 09:21 |
| Alex_Staf | neutron is here :) | 09:21 |
| masayukig | great :) | 09:21 |
| gmann | #action gmann to find out how we can do cross projects sessions efficiently | 09:22 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: cool, | 09:22 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: so will you be there on first 2 days at PTG? | 09:22 |
| Alex_Staf | gmann, mmmm nope | 09:22 |
| dmellado | gmann: I'll bring ihar | 09:22 |
| Alex_Staf | I am not arriving unfortunately | 09:22 |
| dmellado | even if I'll have to get him a beer | 09:22 |
| gmann | ohk | 09:22 |
| dmellado | xD | 09:22 |
| gmann | dmellado: +1 | 09:23 |
| masayukig | +1 | 09:23 |
| dmellado | Alex_Staf: sorry for not getting you another one too, I owe you one! :D | 09:23 |
| chandankumar | +1, we need lots of beer if more cross project will join xD | 09:23 |
| Alex_Staf | dmellado, yes u do :) | 09:23 |
| gmann | how about sending mail for what all projects representative we need for what all kind of sessions ? | 09:23 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:23 |
| chandankumar | *project represntative | 09:23 |
| dmellado | that'd be nice | 09:23 |
| gmann | so that projects gets notify and they can attend/plan on interested one | 09:24 |
| masayukig | cool | 09:24 |
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| dmellado | action for oomichi to send email about the session? | 09:24 |
| dmellado | Alex_Staf: heh | 09:24 |
| gmann | ok | 09:24 |
| gmann | great ll do that | 09:24 |
| gmann | anything on PTG, any query, doubt, feedback etc | 09:25 |
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| dmellado | maybe we'll have to organize some lunch/dinner there | 09:25 |
| dmellado | do we have anyone local? | 09:25 |
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| masayukig | mtreinish ? | 09:25 |
| gmann | +1 we can have dinner planned | 09:25 |
| gmann | yea mtreinish is local only :) | 09:26 |
| gmann | ok let's move then | 09:26 |
| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:26 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:26 |
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| gmann | i think most of the spec in same shape | 09:27 |
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| gmann | anyone knows anything on HA testing one -https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399618/ | 09:27 |
| * dmellado checking | 09:27 | |
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| dmellado | Looks stalled | 09:28 |
| masayukig | hrm, yeah | 09:28 |
| gmann | we need to catch Timur on that | 09:28 |
| gmann | anything else on spec ? | 09:28 |
| masayukig | +1 | 09:29 |
| dmellado | yeah, do you know if he'll be attending the PTG? | 09:29 |
| gmann | do not know | 09:29 |
| gmann | ll reach to him today | 09:29 |
| dmellado | gmann: cool | 09:29 |
| masayukig | cool | 09:29 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 09:29 |
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| ekuris_ | hi :) I dont know if this is the time to ask but I would like to know if this patch is valid and acceptable https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425211/ | 09:30 |
| Alex_Staf | Guys I need to consult with you regarding some cleanup decision. As in neutron/tests/tempest/scenario/<any test > we are using functions from neutron/tests/tempest/scenario/base.py with are classmethod, we can't use in those functions addCleanup method as it requires object and not class, so where do propose to add the call for the addCleanup. | 09:30 |
| gmann | ekuris_: sure, we can check after meeting | 09:30 |
| Alex_Staf | what in your opinion is the best way to do it | 09:30 |
| ekuris_ | gmann, thanks :) | 09:30 |
| dmellado | ekuris_: I'd try for it to first pass the gates ;) | 09:31 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: you can do cleanup in resource_cleanup (or tearDown if you have) | 09:31 |
| masayukig | dmellado , ekuris_ : heh, yup | 09:31 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: but any link will be more helpful to suggest the best way | 09:31 |
| ekuris_ | dmellado, i know I just send it to recheck , it fails on something that not related to my patch | 09:31 |
| chandankumar | ekuris_: I have added one more recheck then we can have a look on gates if it fails | 09:32 |
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| gmann | Alex_Staf: mainly resources created in base class function can be cleanup in teardownClass | 09:32 |
| Alex_Staf | gmann, https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/tempest/scenario/test_basic.py | 09:32 |
| ekuris_ | chandankumar, ok no problem thanks | 09:33 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: and you want to clean resource created in this - setup_network_and_server | 09:33 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: you should be able to do in https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/neutron/tests/tempest/scenario/base.py#L40 | 09:33 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: ping me or anyone if us on qa channel we can help more if needed | 09:34 |
| Alex_Staf | gmann, yes . In this case it is deleted due to end of class. If i wil put there another test function it will create objects for both and delete all only on the end . I do not want that | 09:34 |
| zhufl | Sometimes if we want to"addCleanup" in resource_setup, we will use: | 09:34 |
| zhufl | @classmethod | 09:34 |
| zhufl | def _addCleanupClass(cls, function, *arguments, **keywordArguments): | 09:34 |
| zhufl | cls._cleanup_resources.append((function, arguments, keywordArguments)) | 09:34 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: you can then create in setUp and cleanin teardown | 09:34 |
| Alex_Staf | in the test ? gmann | 09:35 |
| gmann | if you are crating class level resource means you want those till at end | 09:35 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: yes | 09:35 |
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| gmann | Alex_Staf: setUp and terdown gets called before and after each tests respectively | 09:35 |
| dmellado | either that or you can add a self.addCleanUp and pass the objects | 09:35 |
| gmann | yea | 09:36 |
| masayukig | I think this is a good topic for the qa channel or in the free discussion? | 09:36 |
| gmann | let's discuss on qa channel | 09:36 |
| gmann | masayukig: yea | 09:36 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 09:36 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:36 |
| gmann | so those are open review on tempest | 09:36 |
| Alex_Staf | ok thanks guys I need to proccess and look into all that info u provided :) | 09:37 |
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| gmann | Alex_Staf: cool, feel free to ping if anything else needed | 09:37 |
| gmann | so on tempest side anything people want to discuss ? | 09:37 |
| gmann | i think we just keep reviewing the current patches | 09:37 |
| Alex_Staf | gmann, tnx man | 09:38 |
| dmellado | Alex_Staf: also do check http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tempest/HACKING.html#test-fixtures-and-resources | 09:38 |
| gmann | next is Bug Triage | 09:38 |
| gmann | Alex_Staf: np! | 09:38 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-bug-triage | 09:38 |
| gmann | chandankumar: seems like your turn? | 09:38 |
| gmann | #link report- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 09:39 |
| Alex_Staf | dmellado, tnx I will | 09:39 |
| chandankumar | gmann: I have added the report here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 09:39 |
| gmann | chandankumar: go ahead on this week report | 09:39 |
| chandankumar | from last two week | 09:39 |
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| chandankumar | Week progress: | 09:39 |
| chandankumar | # New bugs: 0 -> 1 | 09:39 |
| chandankumar | # Open bugs: 130 -> 131 | 09:39 |
| chandankumar | # In-progress bugs: 59 -> 58 | 09:39 |
| openstack | bug 130 in Launchpad itself "Multiple paragraphs in DOAP project description field" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130 - Assigned to Morgan Collett (morgan) | 09:40 |
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| gmann | chandankumar: cool | 09:40 |
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| gmann | chandankumar: anything you want to discuss on specific bug | 09:40 |
| chandankumar | I need to improve more on bug triaging, will get better incoming days | 09:40 |
| chandankumar | onme query what if a bug got a review but review got abandoned | 09:40 |
| gmann | chandankumar: no prob, take the open one we have to cleanup those | 09:41 |
| chandankumar | will i chnage the status of bug from inprogress to confirm | 09:41 |
| chandankumar | or will i keep as it is/ | 09:41 |
| gmann | chandankumar: open that again, i mean change to confirmed/triage/new state as applicable | 09:41 |
| chandankumar | got that! | 09:42 |
| gmann | chandankumar: yea if patches are abandon then its not in progress | 09:42 |
| gmann | chandankumar: thanks for your help. | 09:42 |
| masayukig | so, one thing, https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1610994 | 09:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610994 in tempest "test_connectivity_between_vms_on_different_networks doesn't work on OVH" [Medium,Fix released] | 09:42 |
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| masayukig | Is this really fixed? | 09:42 |
| masayukig | I guess this is just a workaround (skip). | 09:43 |
| gmann | masayukig: nice catch | 09:43 |
| gmann | yea we should not mark it fix released | 09:43 |
| gmann | just keep it confirmed | 09:43 |
| chandankumar | gmann: sure, i need to improve on that | 09:44 |
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| chandankumar | masayukig: Thanks for the catch | 09:44 |
| gmann | masayukig: can you move that back? | 09:44 |
| dmellado | also did you guys check this email thread? | 09:44 |
| gmann | chandankumar: no prob we all learn like that only | 09:44 |
| dmellado | still no open bug but interesting at least | 09:44 |
| dmellado | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2017-January/018413.html | 09:44 |
| masayukig | gmann : yup, done | 09:45 |
| masayukig | chandankumar : np :) | 09:45 |
| gmann | dmellado: not yet, ll look into that | 09:45 |
| gmann | dmellado: is it same thing of v3 policy one ? | 09:45 |
| masayukig | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack/2017-January/018413.html | 09:45 |
| dmellado | gmann: yeah, it also seems that the keystone v3 non-voting gate is using the older policy.json which is compatible with v2 as well | 09:46 |
| dmellado | which I thought it wouldn't be using | 09:46 |
| dmellado | jamespage: thanks for bringing that out ^^ | 09:46 |
| gmann | looks like we have another mail also related on that | 09:47 |
| jamespage | o/ | 09:47 |
| jamespage | dmellado, yw | 09:47 |
| gmann | jamespage: hi | 09:47 |
| jamespage | tbh it was gnuoy who tripped over the issue | 09:47 |
| gmann | and keystone team working on that separately right ? | 09:47 |
| dmellado | seems like it, I'll ping rodrigods later, he ought to be sleeping now | 09:48 |
| dmellado | but imho this is worth opening a bug | 09:49 |
| gmann | dmellado: rodrigods replied on mail in details | 09:49 |
| gmann | dmellado: but is it tempest bug ? | 09:49 |
| dmellado | saw it, that's why I'll ask him later | 09:49 |
| dmellado | gmann: maybe a keystone one, and point out that it affects tempest? | 09:49 |
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| gmann | dmellado: yea and rodrigods mentioned to work in policy meeting seems | 09:50 |
| * masayukig needs to go in 5 min... :( | 09:50 | |
| dmellado | gmann: I'll get to talk to him later re: the bug | 09:50 |
| dmellado | let's move on | 09:50 |
| gmann | let's move 10 min keft | 09:50 |
| gmann | let's skip DevStack + Grenade if nothing on those | 09:51 |
| masayukig | +1 | 09:51 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:51 |
| gmann | #topic openstack-health | 09:51 |
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| gmann | masayukig: ^^ | 09:51 |
| masayukig | ok, | 09:51 |
| masayukig | I found that, now, it seems like openstack-health gate something wrong, maybe, due to JS libraries or something. I'll try to fix it next week.. | 09:51 |
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| masayukig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health status:open | 09:51 |
| gmann | masayukig: oh | 09:52 |
| masayukig | That's all from my side, actually | 09:52 |
| gmann | masayukig: thanks | 09:52 |
| gmann | #topic Patrole | 09:52 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/patrole | 09:52 |
| dmellado | is DavidPurcell around? | 09:52 |
| gmann | so this is RBAC testing one | 09:53 |
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| gmann | seems like no | 09:53 |
| jamespage | for reference on keystone v3/tempest issues (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1659515) | 09:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659515 in tempest "Some tests fail when running keystone v3 with policy.v3cloudsample.json" [Undecided,New] | 09:53 |
| dmellado | jamespage: ack, thanks! | 09:53 |
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| gmann | sems like nice progress in patrole | 09:54 |
| dmellado | gmann: yeah, IIRC David mentioned that they're migrating the code from the former repo | 09:54 |
| dmellado | so progress ought to be good ;) | 09:54 |
| masayukig | great :) | 09:54 |
| gmann | cool, thats very nice | 09:54 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:54 |
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| gmann | any critical reviews from anyone | 09:54 |
| dmellado | ekuris_: would you like to put again your review link? ;) | 09:55 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425211/ | 09:55 |
| gmann | dmellado: ekuris_ this one | 09:55 |
| gmann | ll check this, but may be tomorrow | 09:55 |
| dmellado | +1, I'll check once jenkins has passed | 09:55 |
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| gmann | i have one for improving the common volume backed things in create server | 09:56 |
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| masayukig | so, I need to go, bye all, see you around :) | 09:56 |
| ekuris_ | dmellado, gmann yes this one | 09:56 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405089/ | 09:56 |
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| dmellado | masayukig: get some rest! | 09:56 |
| gmann | ll be nice if you guys can review | 09:56 |
| masayukig | dmellado: thanks :) | 09:56 |
| gmann | masayukig: thanks , bye | 09:56 |
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| gmann | if no more review then let's jump to open | 09:56 |
| ekuris_ | dmellado, I add you as reviewer | 09:56 |
| dmellado | ekuris_: ack | 09:57 |
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| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 09:57 |
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| gmann | one thing i want to check who all can attend PTG | 09:57 |
| gmann | dmellado: zhufl ? you are in right | 09:57 |
| gmann | chandankumar: get budget from your boss, it will be nice to be there | 09:58 |
| dmellado | gmann: yeah, I'll try bringin chandankumar along | 09:58 |
| dmellado | still in discussions | 09:58 |
| gmann | dmellado: wow, great | 09:58 |
| Noam_ | i would like to get review to the following commit in devstack https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:noama%2540mellanox.com+status:open+project:openstack-dev/devstack basicly expanding stack deploy scenarios | 09:58 |
| gmann | zhufl: you know all details about PTG right | 09:58 |
| gmann | Noam_: sure, ll try to check | 09:59 |
| gmann | 2 min left | 09:59 |
| gmann | anything else from anyone | 09:59 |
| Noam_ | thanks | 09:59 |
| dmellado | let's close this | 10:00 |
| gmann | yea. thanks everyone for joining. | 10:01 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 10:01:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-01-26-09.01.html | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-01-26-09.01.txt | 10:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-01-26-09.01.log.html | 10:01 |
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| bauzas | #startmeeting nova | 14:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 14:04:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:04 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:04 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:04 |
| bauzas | #topic Release news | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| bauzas | #info today is ocata-3 and Feature Freeze deadline | 14:04 |
| bauzas | #link Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 14:05 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | let's be short on that one | 14:05 |
| bauzas | #topic Bugs | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
| bauzas | no critical bugs | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | and the gate is... well it's the gate | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | #topic Stable branch | 14:06 |
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| efried | o/ | 14:06 |
| bauzas | Newton stable branch is under way | 14:06 |
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| bauzas | #topic Subteam highlights | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
| bauzas | given the above, which means that all of us are extremely busy today, I vote for skipping those highlights | 14:07 |
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| gibi | nothing special from notification so agree to skip | 14:07 |
| bauzas | #topic Stuck reviews | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:07 | |
| bauzas | I can't find any stuck review in the agenda | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | so, let's go to the last point | 14:07 |
| bauzas | #topic open discussion | 14:07 |
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| bauzas | any discussion critical for today ? | 14:07 |
| edleafe | Yeah - should we skip this meeting? :) | 14:08 |
| bauzas | or can we just defer to next week ? | 14:08 |
| BobBall | I'd like to raise a quick bug - just for information | 14:08 |
| BobBall | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1658877 live migration is broken for xen-api. | 14:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1658877 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "live migration failed with XenServer as hypervisor" [High,In progress] - Assigned to huan (huan-xie) | 14:08 |
| BobBall | We have a fix, and would be very keen to get it in | 14:08 |
| bauzas | BobBall: so how's your CI ? | 14:08 |
| BobBall | CI is good but doesn't have multiple hosts, so didn't catch the breakage | 14:09 |
| bauzas | oh right, live-migrate | 14:09 |
| bauzas | BobBall: please mark your bug as rc-potential then | 14:09 |
| BobBall | We've recently increased the hardware we have available - so running tests with double the hosts should be feasible when we can get it working. | 14:09 |
| bauzas | I'm not sure we haven't yet a ocata tag for it | 14:09 |
| bauzas | lemme check | 14:10 |
| BobBall | Sorry for the silly q - how do I mark it rc-potential? | 14:10 |
| bauzas | no, we don't | 14:10 |
| bauzas | BobBall: okay, so the idea is that you tag your bug in Lauchpad with the name 'ocata-rc-potential' | 14:10 |
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| bauzas | it will get the proper attention before we cut RC1 | 14:11 |
| BobBall | Ahhh - E_NOTAG currently | 14:11 |
| bauzas | zactly | 14:11 |
| bauzas | BobBall: do you want me to tag it ? | 14:11 |
| BobBall | I just added it :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=ocata-rc-potential | 14:11 |
| bauzas | BobBall: just marked your bug | 14:12 |
| bauzas | heh interesting, jinx | 14:12 |
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| bauzas | BobBall: for the moment, we're very focusing on delivering the high-prio features, but we will plan bug chasing for next week | 14:12 |
| BobBall | Of course. | 14:12 |
| bauzas | can we move on ? | 14:13 |
| BobBall | One reason I'm keen for this to get in is backport potential is limited as we need an update to the xenapi live migration object version | 14:13 |
| BobBall | *nod* | 14:13 |
| bauzas | BobBall: okay, we could follow-up on that either tomorrow or early next week | 14:13 |
| bauzas | BobBall: keep in mind we cut RC1 next week | 14:13 |
| BobBall | Sounds perfect, thanks. | 14:13 |
| bauzas | okay, other questions ? | 14:14 |
| efried | I'd like to give a quick update on PowerVM driver status. | 14:14 |
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| bauzas | shoot | 14:14 |
| efried | Got a review on the first change set (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391288/) from mikal - thanks for that. | 14:14 |
| efried | We're up to four change sets ready for review (https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/powervm-nova-compute-driver). But... | 14:14 |
| efried | Our in-tree CI still isn't quite there. We've developed the infrastructure to test by whitelist rather than blacklist. But the hitch we've run into is that there are no existing tests that do a spawn without a network. | 14:14 |
| efried | Background there is that we're introducing the PowerVM driver in small(ish) chunks so reviewers don't have thousands of lines per change set (and even so, the first change set is pretty large). So it's going to be a few change sets before we introduce network support; and that means none of the tests that pass right now are actually hitting spawn. | 14:14 |
| efried | So we're working on proposing at least one tempest test that does just that: spawn without network. | 14:15 |
| efried | Obviously we are not making ocata-3, even with the initial change set. We're going to keep cranking with high focus to get things moving early in pike. | 14:15 |
| efried | Questions/comments/concerns? | 14:15 |
| bauzas | efried: I'd suggest to ask your question next week | 14:15 |
| bauzas | efried: we're under quorum today | 14:15 |
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| efried | Sure, no questions or action items for the broader team here, just FYI. | 14:15 |
| bauzas | since you're not planning for ocata | 14:15 |
| bauzas | efried: thanks, appreciated :) | 14:15 |
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| efried | That's it from me. | 14:16 |
| bauzas | cool, other thoughts ? | 14:16 |
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| bauzas | okay, I hear a lot of noise here | 14:18 |
| bauzas | unplugging the mic then. | 14:18 |
| bauzas | #endmeeting | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:18 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jan 26 14:18:14 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-01-26-14.04.html | 14:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-01-26-14.04.txt | 14:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-01-26-14.04.log.html | 14:18 |
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| armax | toc toc | 22:01 |
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| ihrachys | who's that | 22:01 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 22:01 |
| armax | it’s the wolf | 22:02 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 22:03 |
| armax | kevinbenton: here | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | hi | 22:04 |
| armax | #startmeeting | 22:04 |
| openstack | armax: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 22:04 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jan 26 22:04:44 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:04 |
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| kevinbenton | NoneType has no attribute meeting_name | 22:04 |
| njohnston | :) | 22:05 |
| armax | hello folks | 22:06 |
| armax | we’re no officially in feature freeze | 22:06 |
| armax | as O-3 is out | 22:06 |
| ihrachys | *now | 22:06 |
| ihrachys | a slight different :) | 22:06 |
| armax | ihrachys: that one | 22:06 |
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| armax | I’ll start preparing a postmortmem document so that we can figure out what gets granted a FFE and what can’t | 22:07 |
| armax | make sure the stuff you have looked at/reviewed/care about has up to date information, targets etc | 22:07 |
| ihrachys | armax: also maybe starting looking at pre-release checklist would make sense, so that we avoid backports later | 22:07 |
| armax | I’ll create an RC1/Pike-1 milestone pages shortly and start rolling stuff over | 22:08 |
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| armax | I’ll also create a ocata-rc-potential bug tag if it doesn’t exist already so that we can flag what we want to make sure lands in time for ocata | 22:09 |
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| armax | ihrachys: excellent, we need that | 22:09 |
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| armax | anything else I am missing? | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | gate-failure bugs, do they get FFE by default? | 22:10 |
| armax | ihrachys: I’d say so | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | good | 22:11 |
| armax | about gate-failures, I wanted actually to talk about those briefly during this meeting | 22:11 |
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| armax | but before we do, anything else release related that comes to mind? | 22:11 |
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| ihrachys | how do we handle releases for e.g. ovn? | 22:12 |
| ihrachys | does FFE apply to them? | 22:12 |
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| armax | ihrachys: the way this worked the last few times is that if we end up seeing blockers | 22:13 |
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| armax | especially introduced in neutron by kevinbenton, we’ll most likely know about them | 22:13 |
| armax | and release accordingly :) | 22:13 |
| ihrachys | no pain no gain :) | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | i'm not sure how i understand what we are talking about relates to OVN releases? | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | (terrible sentence) | 22:14 |
| armax | but as for regular outstanding work, I’d defer to the team how they want to handle the merge process in the RC window | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | how are OVN released related to me breaking the gate? | 22:14 |
| armax | unless there’s something that shows up on the neutron dashboard | 22:14 |
| armax | kevinbenton: remember when we broke a bunch of DHCP stuff last time? | 22:15 |
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| kevinbenton | yes | 22:15 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: yeah I also try to figure. I was merely asking if they follow FFE rules, and if so, if we want stadium to follow the same procedures/timelines as we do for neutron core (btw is it now only neutron + fwaas?) | 22:15 |
| armax | that led us to churn a few RCs for neutron | 22:15 |
| kevinbenton | armax: for neutron, not for OVN | 22:16 |
| armax | kevinbenton: they landed stop-gap in the meantime, remember? | 22:16 |
| armax | that may lead to get a new release | 22:16 |
| armax | but to ihrachys’ point | 22:16 |
| armax | FFE proces applies to anything that’s on the neutron launchpad dashboard | 22:17 |
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| armax | if ther’es anything that pertains networking-foo, that’ll have to show up on it for us to have a look at it | 22:18 |
| ihrachys | meaning, we don't really enforce release process on e.g. networking-odl even though we seem to vouch on it | 22:18 |
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| ihrachys | due to them being in stadium | 22:18 |
| armax | other than that, when we are about to push an RC release, we can look at the milestone-based projects and advance the hash for them | 22:18 |
| armax | however... | 22:19 |
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| armax | for those projects that are currently on a release:independent schedule | 22:19 |
| armax | I think we should make sure that for those in the stadium end up being ready to cut a release soon-ish | 22:19 |
| armax | rather than waiting Pike-? for an ocata release | 22:20 |
| armax | I’ll send a note out about this | 22:20 |
| armax | ihrachys: does that make sense? | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | yes. I would suggest we also try to advertise proper release practices to them, because otherwise they may continue landing disruptive patches only to learn later they need to stabilize in a week | 22:21 |
| ihrachys | some are still in dillusion that they will have months+ after neutron final to prepare their release | 22:21 |
| armax | ihrachys: I don’t believe they are that clueless, but we can surely remind that on the ML | 22:22 |
| ihrachys | aye, I think we are good on stadium then for the most part | 22:22 |
| armax | as I said, I’ll follow up on the ML, I noticed that dasm has already started the thread, and I’ll reply to his email | 22:23 |
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| armax | and provide more details on what I expect it’ll happen between now and the time Ocata is officially released | 22:23 |
| armax | sounds good? | 22:23 |
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| ihrachys | yes | 22:24 |
| armax | sweet | 22:24 |
| armax | kevinbenton, amotoki anything to add? | 22:24 |
| armax | now about gate snafus | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | let's switch to pecan today. blogan wants to :) | 22:25 |
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| armax | can’t find the word to express the feeling that statement made me feel | 22:25 |
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| armax | :) | 22:26 |
| ihrachys | lonely? | 22:26 |
| armax | ihrachys: no, that’s not it | 22:26 |
| armax | as for gate failures, I ws looking at grafana right now | 22:27 |
| armax | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 22:27 |
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| armax | it seems most of the instability is in the xenial vrersions of the jobs | 22:27 |
| armax | would you guys concur? | 22:27 |
| armax | it’s fair that trusty runs on mitaka only at this point | 22:28 |
| ihrachys | yeah, not many data points there | 22:28 |
| armax | and we may not have many data points | 22:28 |
| kevinbenton | i haven't been watching many mitaka runs | 22:28 |
| armax | kevinbenton: they seemed to have landed fine for what I could tell | 22:28 |
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| ihrachys | xenial is probably a mix of libvirtd corruptions and oom-killer | 22:28 |
| kevinbenton | nobody replied back about my swap observation with the oom thing | 22:29 |
| armax | about the oom-killer, is there anything we can do there? | 22:29 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: I think dasm was replying in the bug didn't he? | 22:29 |
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| armax | do we know if anyone in the infra team is looking at these? | 22:30 |
| dasm | ihrachys: i was. didn't find anything yet | 22:30 |
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| ihrachys | for the record, the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1656386 | 22:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1656386 in neutron "Memory leaks on Neutron jobs" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Darek Smigiel (smigiel-dariusz) | 22:31 |
| ihrachys | dasm: "Now, I see it completely reversed." can you clarify what you mean? that you don't see swap used? or that it's different from what kevinbenton observed? | 22:31 |
| dasm | i added this chart: https://imgur.com/a/59KYz | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | dasm: in that run swap never exceeds a couple of hundred MB | 22:32 |
| ihrachys | armax: I dunno of anyone looking at it. does it suggest we are the only affected? | 22:32 |
| dasm | first time when i've seen this issue, i've seen that swap was exceeding 2GBs | 22:32 |
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| armax | ihrachys: the entire gate is affected | 22:33 |
| armax | ihrachys: the integrated gate is, I mean | 22:33 |
| armax | we’re default now, remember? :) | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | dasm: we have up to 8GB though | 22:33 |
| armax | looking at logstash | 22:33 |
| dasm | ihrachys: i've found oom-killer just for tripleo jobs, but as comments, not cause of failure | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | oom killer shouldn't trigger with 6GB free | 22:33 |
| armax | I see 39 events in neutron patches against 18 in nova, 15 in cinder and 10 in tempest | 22:34 |
| dasm | kevinbenton: ram was consumed ~8GB, then swap arose to ~2GB and after couple minutes, oom-killer was triggered against mysql | 22:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: it happened 21 times in the gate queue | 22:34 |
| armax | and 110 times in check | 22:35 |
| armax | it’s master only at this point | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | dasm: right, that's still bad behavior though. it just killed stuff with 6GB free in that case | 22:35 |
| armax | don’t see any occurence in any stable branch | 22:35 |
| dasm | kevinbenton: agree | 22:35 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: something requested more than 6gb at once? :) | 22:36 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: maybe. I would assume that would make it a prime target for the OOM killer | 22:36 |
| ihrachys | nah that's not how oom-killer works :) | 22:37 |
| ihrachys | I believe it's shooting processes at random | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: no | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: each process gets a score | 22:37 |
| armax | ihrachys: as a matter of fact oom-killer is always picking up on mysql | 22:37 |
| ihrachys | ok but the hungry doesn't necessarily get shot? | 22:37 |
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| kevinbenton | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/153585/how-the-oom-killer-decides-which-process-to-kill-first | 22:38 |
| armax | a handful of times it picks something different and that’s why I see OOM kill traces with succesful runs | 22:38 |
| armax | making mysql less attratictive for a oom-kill would be a way to try and mitigate the issue | 22:38 |
| armax | however, if we want to do something within our control, all we can do is figure out how to reduce the neutron processes memory footprint | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | armax: well i assume in that case it would randomly just kill nova/neutron/cinder | 22:39 |
| armax | kevinbenton and I looked at this | 22:39 |
| armax | kevinbenton: it depends on the test run though | 22:39 |
| armax | it could kill something that can either be restarted or not being used by the specific test at that specific time, no? | 22:40 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: who will restart it? | 22:40 |
| smcginnis | fwiw, we chased oom issues in cinder for a while and never found a good way to isolate a root cause. | 22:40 |
| smcginnis | Other than just things generally getting bigger and requiring more memory. | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | smcginnis: did you also notice that it's doing it way before swap space is exhausted? | 22:40 |
| armax | kevinbenton: in neutron we have the processmonitor thingy | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | armax: the processmonitor thingy is for subprocesses of the agent | 22:41 |
| smcginnis | kevinbenton: I can't remember specifics now, but there were some strange things with it. | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | armax: the neutron-server will not be restarted | 22:41 |
| armax | kevinbenton: I am not saying that’s exactly how it happens | 22:41 |
| armax | duh | 22:41 |
| armax | :) | 22:41 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: I’ll find a successul run with an oom-kill to see what actually happened | 22:42 |
| clarkb | apparently one potential reason for OOMkiller being invoked evne with plenty of swap is if the kernel itself is requesting the memory | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | clarkb: i wonder if this kernel version is janky with our low swapiness setting that we put on the gate? | 22:42 |
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| armax | clarkb: do you think that trying to keep mysql memory footprint small would be a viable step, at the expense perhaps of running a bit slower in the gate? | 22:43 |
| clarkb | or newer kernel in general? | 22:43 |
| clarkb | armax: as I said in my email to the thread I think the ideal solution here is if we put openstack on more of a diet like heat did | 22:43 |
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| clarkb | they dropped memory consumption quite a bit over the last cycle or two | 22:44 |
| armax | clarkb: yeah, trimming the memory footprint of the neutron processes is soemthing we’re looking at | 22:44 |
| armax | if we compound the effort across all projects we can definitely make a difference | 22:44 |
| armax | but these things usually take time | 22:44 |
| clarkb | kevinbenton: another possible cause is use of mlock | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | clarkb: would you be ammenable to adjusting that swapiness setting upward to see if it improves things? | 22:45 |
| clarkb | kevinbenton: ya I think devstack can do that | 22:45 |
| armax | clarkb: we saw it in d-g | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | i will propose change | 22:45 |
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| clarkb | oh I guess we already adjust in d-g ya | 22:45 |
| armax | that swappiness is explicitly set towards the low end of the scale | 22:45 |
| armax | and for a good reason too | 22:45 |
| armax | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/devstack-gate/tree/functions.sh#n432 | 22:46 |
| ihrachys | could it be nova doing something fancy with guest memory? like enabling mlock? | 22:46 |
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| armax | mriedem: ^ | 22:46 |
| armax | we’re brainstorming on the oom-kill failures we’re seeing lately | 22:46 |
| armax | any idea about how nova might be hogging memory? | 22:46 |
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| ihrachys | (...and in such a way that swap is not fully utilized) | 22:47 |
| mriedem | not really, no one has profiled it yet | 22:47 |
| armax | so kevinbenton how high are you thinking of raising swappiness? | 22:47 |
| armax | mriedem: ok | 22:47 |
| armax | default is 60 | 22:47 |
| armax | clarkb: there are also a bunch of mysql settings that devstack sets | 22:48 |
| armax | clarkb: what do you think of setting cache sizes as well? | 22:48 |
| clarkb | mysql cache sizes? thats probably a better quetion for mordred or devananda | 22:48 |
| clarkb | my guess is that they probably help quite a bit on instances with slower IO in the gate | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | https://review.openstack.org/425961 | 22:49 |
| armax | clarkb: I see we have lots of connections open | 22:49 |
| armax | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/lib/databases/mysql#n99 | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | clarkb, armax: interesting comments above that | 22:49 |
| armax | kevinbenton: you mean the IO one? | 22:50 |
| kevinbenton | L426 | 22:50 |
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| armax | nonymous-memory to file-backed mappings | 22:50 |
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| ihrachys | "kicking in on some processes despite swap being available;" | 22:51 |
| dasm | kevinbenton: indeed, interesting. would fit with our use-case (although we're running ubuntu, afair) | 22:51 |
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| ihrachys | btw time check 8 mins | 22:52 |
| clarkb | git blame should show us who ran into that but my guess is ianw when getting stuff running on fedora/centos | 22:52 |
| kevinbenton | dasm: right, but setting swappiness to 10 here in the gate happens regardless of what we are running | 22:52 |
| dasm | is it possible, that something change with latest ubuntu? | 22:52 |
| armax | ihrachys: agreed | 22:52 |
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| armax | even though I had a different agenda in mind, this turned out to be a good discussion I didn’t want to stop | 22:52 |
| dasm | nah. if it would be problem with ubuntu, then we should probably start seeing this oom-killer earlier. | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | did you want to talk more about how we are going to switch to pecan and ovs firewall by default before feature freeze? | 22:53 |
| armax | dasm: we started hammering on xenial only recently though | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | dasm: it could be related to a later kernel version in xenial | 22:53 |
| armax | and if we indeed increasing the memory of some services, it might be that it was just the last straw | 22:53 |
| dasm | mhm | 22:54 |
| armax | kevinbenton, clarkb: do we want to try and tweak mysql settings, propose the change and see what reactions people might have? | 22:54 |
| clarkb | its possible the weighting has changed on swappiness. Apprently such weighting has changed in the past too | 22:54 |
| armax | of do we want to wait and see how the swappiness increase does? | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | armax: let's wait and see if this helps | 22:55 |
| clarkb | armax: probably best to see if one toggle at a time makes a difference | 22:55 |
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| armax | clarkb: ok, I can start on the patch and put it in WIP | 22:55 |
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| kevinbenton | if it does, we've successfully swept the problem under the rug until the end of next cycle when the memory consumption of all of the services has doubled :) | 22:55 |
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| dasm | LOL | 22:55 |
| armax | we’ll double the swappinees then! | 22:56 |
| armax | no | 22:56 |
| armax | but in all seriousness we should look at the memory footprints of our services | 22:56 |
| armax | to see if in the long term we can trim some fat | 22:56 |
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| armax | ok, so we’re 3 mins until the top of the hour | 22:57 |
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| armax | I guess that’s about it | 22:57 |
| ihrachys | oktnxbye | 22:58 |
| dasm | o/ | 22:58 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:58 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-01-26-22.04.html | 22:58 |
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