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| ekcs | time for congress meeting. | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 3 00:02:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:02 |
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| aimeeu | Hi all - on mobile and here to keep track of what's going on | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | hi aimeeu! | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | hi all | 00:04 |
| aimeeu | I'm still recovering from the Summit! | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | so it seems we have very small group today. masahito told me he’s also on mobile and don’t expect to participate much. I don’t see ramineni guessing she’s recovering from the traveling. | 00:05 |
| ekcs | but let’s dive in. | 00:05 |
| ekcs | topics I have are: | 00:06 |
| ekcs | 1. summit wrap-up | 00:06 |
| ekcs | 2. robustness improvements and bug fixes | 00:06 |
| ekcs | 3. other ocata priorities | 00:06 |
| ekcs | anything else? | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | LGTM | 00:06 |
| ekcs | #topic summit wrap-up | 00:07 |
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| ekcs | I’ll be sending around a recap over ML. but we had a very productive summit with lots of feedback and use case directions from the summit. will probably have stuff to work on for many cycles to come. | 00:08 |
| aimeeu | Yes I agree. Good sessions. | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | +1 | 00:09 |
| ekcs | pretty nice publicity with the keynote demo. and came away with some priorities to focus on in ocata. | 00:09 |
| ekcs | any other comments? | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | It was great having Nate, Adam, and Bryan talk about such concise use cases. That was a huge help! | 00:10 |
| aimeeu | +1 | 00:11 |
| ekcs | +1 | 00:11 |
| ekcs | well moving on then. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | #topic robustness improvements and bug fixes | 00:12 |
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| ekcs | for ocata priorities, we can probably break them down between robustness improvements / bug fixes vs new features (others) | 00:13 |
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| ekcs | I’ve been registering bugs for robustness and bug fixes. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | renaming topic. | 00:16 |
| ekcs | #topic ocata priorities | 00:16 |
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| ekcs | So based on our discussions at the summit it seems we want to focus on robustness and bug fixes plus out-of-the-box policies and CIDR arithmetic builtin. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | I’ve been registering bugs and setting approximate targets. | 00:18 |
| ekcs | https://launchpad.net/congress/+milestone/ocata-1 | 00:18 |
| ekcs | https://launchpad.net/congress/+milestone/ocata-2 | 00:18 |
| ekcs | https://launchpad.net/congress/+milestone/ocata-3 | 00:18 |
| ekcs | the ocata-1 targets may be pretty aggressive because it’s in a couple weeks. | 00:19 |
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| ekcs | but anyway please take a look at the bugs, grab ones you want to work on, and register additional bugs for robustness and fixes and other ocata priorities. | 00:21 |
| thinrichs | got it | 00:21 |
| ekcs | a couple things I’ll highlight | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | this is a critical bug that we didn’t quite fix in Newton. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1612008 | 00:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1612008 in congress "HAHT - Update synchronizer for distributed deployment" [Critical,Triaged] - Assigned to Anusha (anusha-iiitm) | 00:23 |
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| ekcs | I realized just this week it wasn’t completely fixed. So I added a new comment on suggested fix and re-opened it. It should be fairly straightforward. | 00:24 |
| ekcs | any thoughts or comments or discussion on ocata priorities? | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | Nope | 00:27 |
| aimeeu | Looks good | 00:27 |
| ekcs | cool. ok so I don’t have much else to discuss. let’s open it up then. | 00:28 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | Looking thru open changes, I see a couple from Aug for Gate troubleshooting. Need to keep those? | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/congress+status:open | 00:30 |
| ekcs | No I think I can abandon them. | 00:30 |
| ekcs | I’ll do that. | 00:31 |
| ekcs | we had a discussion about this patch before the summit: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376166/ | 00:31 |
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| ekcs | I think thinrichs said we should make this fix if add/delete datasource does not immediately take effect on separate node. | 00:32 |
| ekcs | and indeed as it stands right now add/delete ds does not take effect until next periodic sync. | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | So if alice adds a datasource and then lists the datasource, she doesn't see her new datasource necessarily (even if she's pinned by haproxy to the same Congress instance). | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | Does that happen even in a single-node deployment then? | 00:34 |
| ekcs | but instead of leaving that as is and backporting this patch (or a minimal verison of it) it may make more sense to trigger the sync so that a change takes effect. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: correct. does not affect single-node deployment. | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | Why doesn't it affect single-node deploy? | 00:35 |
| ekcs | I’ve registered a bug for it. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1638729 we could decide to backport that fix to newton. | 00:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638729 in congress "datasource add/delete not effected until next sync" [High,New] | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: the code today triggers a sync right away if the datasourecs are on the same node as the API processing the request. | 00:36 |
| ekcs | https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/dse2/dse_node.py#L748 | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: ok—so it's that we're not telling all the nodes to pick up the change | 00:37 |
| ekcs | I think it was one of those things we put off deciding in terms what should happen in multi-node case. | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | If the user lists the datasources, does she see the new one (always), even if it hasn't been created on a separate node? | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | i.e. is the list of datasources coming from the DB or from oslo-messaging? | 00:38 |
| ramineni_ | It's coming from db .. | 00:39 |
| ekcs | seems list comes from db so it would show up. | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | but if I create a ds and then ask for it’s status, I’d get 404. | 00:40 |
| thinrichs | It takes 30 seconds to pull the data, which is really the first time the datasource is valuable. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | Obviously it'd be better for everything to work faster, but I wouldn't think this fix needs to go into Newton. | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | true. | 00:41 |
| ekcs | it’s not that on it’s own it has to go into newton. rather, if starting from the premise that we need to get at least one of the two into newton, then the sync fix i think makes more sense. | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | than this fix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376166/ | 00:42 |
| ekcs | just my current thoughts. | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | Not sure I see a need to put either fix into Newton. | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | Instead of the first data pull taking 30 seconds from the time the datasource gets added, it takes 30 seconds until the first sync and another 30 seconds to do the first pull. | 00:44 |
| ekcs | I think the bigger problem is delete. that’s why two weeks ago you thought we need to put the fix in. | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | If i delete a ds and then add again after 10 seconds, I can’t add because it sees a conflict in service name. | 00:45 |
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| ekcs | anyway feel free to jump in with other topics and thoughts. | 00:48 |
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| thinrichs | That's not great UX. | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: your call whether a fix needs to go into Newton for it. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: yea I’ll think more about it. | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | Nothing else from me. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | anyone else still jetlagged from the summit? | 00:50 |
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| aimeeu | yes - wiped out even with 2 days vacation | 00:50 |
| ekcs | i’m having a hard time sleeping in to catch up on sleep haha. | 00:50 |
| aimeeu | lol | 00:50 |
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| ekcs | anyway I don’t have anything else we need to talk about right now. I’m sure we’ll have discussions over launchpad and gerrit on specific items. | 00:52 |
| ekcs | we can end early with no other topics. | 00:52 |
| thinrichs | I've slept like a champion since I've been back. Kids will do that to you. :) | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | See you all later! | 00:53 |
| ekcs | lol! | 00:53 |
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| aimeeu | Have a nice evening/morning/afternoon! | 00:53 |
| ekcs | good to have everyone back safe and sound. see you all next week then? | 00:53 |
| ekcs | aimeeu: yup you too. | 00:53 |
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| ekcs | #endmeeting | 00:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 3 00:54:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:54 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-11-03-00.02.html | 00:54 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-11-03-00.02.txt | 00:54 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-11-03-00.02.log.html | 00:54 |
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| ianychoi | Hello! Anybody here for i18n meeting? | 07:00 |
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| Daisy | ianychoi: Hi | 07:16 |
| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:17 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 3 07:17:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:17 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:17 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:17 |
| ianychoi | Hello Daisy! | 07:17 |
| Daisy | Hi, ianychoi ! | 07:17 |
| ianychoi | I met zzxwill last week :) | 07:17 |
| Daisy | I heard that. | 07:17 |
| Daisy | Nice to have your two meet at Barcelona | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | Aha :) | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | #topic Actions from Barcelona i18n contributor meetup | 07:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Actions from Barcelona i18n contributor meetup (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:19 | |
| ianychoi | And also yesterday zzxwill asked me about Zanata user list for releases.. | 07:19 |
| Daisy | ok | 07:20 |
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| Daisy | Are we able to have this information now? | 07:20 |
| ianychoi | Regarding this, currently zanata_stats.py from Daisy and Stackalytics will partly address to calculate statistics | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | Assuming Zanata users are just accumulated (no people deregister accounts), then zanata_stats.py can calculate stats for specific period | 07:21 |
| Daisy | Yeah, I remember that. | 07:22 |
| ianychoi | But IMO to use this tool would not be familiar with translators | 07:22 |
| ianychoi | Receltly, I have found that Stackalytics stats with language filters for translations does not work | 07:23 |
| ianychoi | #link http://stackalytics.com/?metric=translations&language=chinese%20(china) | 07:23 |
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| Daisy | wow, it's bad that it doesn't work. | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | I asked Ilya from Stackalytics team to fix... :) | 07:24 |
| Daisy | Do you know what is wrong? | 07:24 |
| Daisy | ok. | 07:24 |
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| ianychoi | Not sure yet.. but IMO language filter name is full language name but data is locale name: zh_CN, ko_KR, ... | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | Currently release filter is fine. | 07:25 |
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| ianychoi | If language filter is fixed, the the following url will work well: | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | #link http://stackalytics.com/?metric=translations&language=chinese%20(china)&release=newton | 07:26 |
| Daisy | ok. | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | Including this, there were so many discussions on last i18n contributors meetup | 07:27 |
| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup | 07:27 |
| ianychoi | I will read again and define actions :) | 07:27 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will review action items from Barcelona i18n meetup and define subsequent actions | 07:28 |
| ianychoi | Regarding this, could you approve my request on openstack-18n launchpad team: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-i18n-core | 07:29 |
| ianychoi | ? It is needed to set importance for bugs I think | 07:29 |
| Daisy | ok | 07:30 |
| Daisy | ianychoi: I will see if I can pass the team owner to you. | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | Thank you but IMO I prefer your ownership, since you're i18n team initiator :) | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | Anyway thanks :) | 07:32 |
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| ianychoi | #topic logs-* translation jobs for oslo | 07:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "logs-* translation jobs for oslo (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:33 | |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-October/002564.html | 07:33 |
| ianychoi | #info Please write opinions on this mail. i18n will decide actions by the next week or sooner | 07:34 |
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| ianychoi | #topic how to indicate non-translatable identifiers | 07:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "how to indicate non-translatable identifiers (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:35 | |
| ianychoi | Daisy, do you have some idea on http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106580.html ? | 07:35 |
| Daisy | ianychoi: Let me go through the email. | 07:35 |
| ianychoi | Daisy, thank you :) | 07:36 |
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| Daisy | ianychoi: I think using quotation mark is an easy way to mark the words which should not be translated. | 07:39 |
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| Daisy | But I'm not sure if there are some cases that words in quotation mark should be translated. | 07:39 |
| ianychoi | Daisy, how about one suggestion from http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106598.html ? | 07:40 |
| Daisy | Adding translation comments can pass more information to translators from developers. | 07:40 |
| ianychoi | Yep but Doug Hellman said enhancing tool chains is needed. | 07:41 |
| Daisy | what does he mean ? | 07:41 |
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| ianychoi | From my understanding, it would be much better if the original source describes notes for translators | 07:42 |
| ianychoi | e.g., help=_("Authentication strategy ('keystone' or 'noauth').",note="'keystone' and 'noauth' is keywords") | 07:43 |
| ianychoi | Then a tool which extracts po files from original sources need to understand "note=" argument and need to write po file with translation notes | 07:44 |
| Daisy | I wonder if we can set any rules within the team, for example, don't translate any words in capital. If developers don't want to translate some words, write them in capital. | 07:44 |
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| ianychoi | Daisy, it means.. guideline for translation right? | 07:45 |
| ianychoi | And documenting to i18n contributor guide | 07:45 |
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| ianychoi | Daisy, I will try to eumerage and list up several rules and/or guidelines :) Thank you today! | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | s/eumerage/eumerage | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | s/eumerage/eumerate | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | s/eumerage/enumerate.... | 07:54 |
| ianychoi | #topic Open discussions | 07:54 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussions (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:54 | |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2016-November/009294.html | 07:55 |
| ianychoi | #info FYI: Please see more details on AUC (Active User Contributor) | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | I think some i18n contributors satisfy some criteria for AUC | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | Daisy, Thanks a lot today! I would like to finish the meeting :) | 07:56 |
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| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 07:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 07:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 3 07:58:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-03-07.17.html | 07:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-03-07.17.txt | 07:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-03-07.17.log.html | 07:58 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 3 14:00:28 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
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| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
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| raj_singh | o/ | 14:00 |
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| cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:01 |
| jroll | \o | 14:01 |
| mriedem | alright let's get started | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #link meeting agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | ^ has the official schedule for nova now | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | the only nova-specific date is the spec approval freeze | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | #info Next upcoming date: Nov 17: o-1 milestone, spec approval freeze | 14:03 |
| mriedem | so we have 2 weeks to approve specs for ocata | 14:03 |
| mriedem | #link Open specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/nova-specs+status:open | 14:03 |
| mriedem | and there are lots of them open | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | #info we've already approved 43 blueprints for ocata https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/ocata | 14:04 |
| mriedem | so we've already got a lot of committed work to get done | 14:04 |
| mriedem | so having said that, if you have a spec that needs a 2nd +2 or should be trivial, speak up in -nova to get eyes on it | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | questions? | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | moving on | 14:05 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | there are no critical bugs right now | 14:05 |
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| mriedem | however, the number of new untriaged bugs is on the rise | 14:05 |
| mriedem | we used to keep that hanging <40 but it's at 72 right now | 14:06 |
| mriedem | so please help out and triage a bug or two each day to keep those numbers down, or at least spot anything that's really critical from the rest of the noise | 14:06 |
| mriedem | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:07 |
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| mriedem | pretty quiet | 14:07 |
| dansmith | mriedem: was there any outcome of looking at why that n-net patch was hanging so bad? | 14:07 |
| mriedem | dansmith: nope. i abandoned just to kill it until we know we don't have any non-cellsv1 n-net jobs in ocata | 14:07 |
| dansmith | okay I'm still curious how it was evading the timer | 14:08 |
| mriedem | me too | 14:08 |
| dansmith | because I have some bitcoin to mine, and that would be excellent | 14:08 |
| mriedem | there has been improvement on removing n-net jobs from ocata gate https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:neutron-default | 14:08 |
| * johnthetubaguy giggles | 14:08 | |
| mriedem | i plan on working on clarkb's d-g change today | 14:08 |
| mriedem | which will make neutron the default in ocata jobs | 14:08 |
| mriedem | i think i have to cap the grenade n-net jobs at newton first, but that's trivial | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i don't have any news about 3rd party ci really | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | powervm is going to work on getting runs of their CI on nova changes, non-voting | 14:10 |
| mriedem | anthonyper is going to work on making the xenproject ci run with neutron | 14:10 |
| mriedem | powerkvm and vmware ci already already working on using neutron | 14:10 |
| mriedem | *are already | 14:10 |
| mriedem | questions about bugs and/or CI? | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | alright | 14:11 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | #link Ocata review priorities https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:11 |
| mriedem | my guess is ^ is stale | 14:11 |
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| * dansmith is updating now | 14:11 | |
| mriedem | #help if you're a subteam lead or have a section in the https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking etherpad please make sure it's up to date with the latest priority reviews | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | the api one has been updated by alex_xu recently | 14:11 |
| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | i have one stable/newton change to mention, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391086/ | 14:12 |
| mriedem | that's the backport of the db schema migration made last week | 14:13 |
| mriedem | to fix a regression with creating servers in newton | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | i'd like to get that merged and the reno that sits on top of it and then put out a release | 14:13 |
| mriedem | it's just a table alter to make a column bigger | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | so johnthetubaguy dansmith i'm probably looking to you guys there | 14:14 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | i don't really have anything to mention about stable otherwise | 14:14 |
| mriedem | i believe liberty-eol is in a couple of weeks | 14:14 |
| mriedem | moving on | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: i know the cellsv2 meeting was cancelled, but any review priority you want to point out here? | 14:15 |
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| dansmith | yeah, so, I've been working on this for the last few days: | 14:15 |
| dansmith | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/cells-scheduling-interaction+project:openstack/nova+status:open | 14:15 |
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| dansmith | which is the move-instance-creation-to-conductor, | 14:15 |
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| dansmith | which is the first step to getting multicell working | 14:15 |
| dansmith | I've made a lot of progress, but it definitely needs review from cellsv2ish people, | 14:15 |
| dansmith | specifically bauzas at the moment because it includes some legacy scheduling stuff baked into the api that we might not want to import | 14:16 |
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| dansmith | there is also a multicell database fixture in there that probably needs some review from test-y people | 14:16 |
| dansmith | as it creates temporary files | 14:16 |
| bauzas | oh man, did I missed the nova meeting ? | 14:16 |
| dansmith | other than that, not much has changed since last week and melwitt, et al have been out | 14:16 |
| * bauzas hates daylight shifts | 14:16 | |
| mriedem | doctor test is still on sabbatical | 14:16 |
| * bauzas waves super late \o | 14:17 | |
| mriedem | but i've starred the bottom change | 14:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: yeah, I added him to the review but might be good to get some other people to look so we don't delay because of a fixture | 14:17 |
| bauzas | dansmith: yeah, I need to review that stack, that's in my pipe | 14:17 |
| dansmith | bauzas: thanks | 14:17 |
| mriedem | i'm glad we both know who doctor test is | 14:17 |
| dansmith | I'm going to start working on the top WIP today | 14:17 |
| dansmith | mriedem: of course :) | 14:18 |
| dansmith | for one, he's the only one on sabbatical :) | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | alright anything else? | 14:18 |
| dansmith | nay | 14:18 |
| mriedem | thanks | 14:18 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler meeting highlights? | 14:18 |
| cdent | I think edleafe I not yet returned. No particular highlights. | 14:19 |
| mriedem | review priorities? | 14:19 |
| mriedem | i've been watching the series here | 14:19 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390062/ | 14:19 |
| cdent | anything from jaypipes, pretty much | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | for resource classes | 14:19 |
| cdent | work has begun on the newton-leftovers | 14:20 |
| cdent | and we still need to resolve the api on requesting a list of filtered resource providers | 14:20 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:20 |
| bauzas | I'm just rewriting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386242/3/nova/objects/resource_provider.py based on cdent's comments on | 14:20 |
| bauzas | and I did cut that patch into two changes, one for the object layer and one for the REST API exposure | 14:21 |
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| bauzas | that's it for me | 14:21 |
| cdent | this will need to be fixed soon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1638681 | 14:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638681 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "resource tracker sets wrong max_unit in placement Inventory" [Undecided,Triaged] - Assigned to Prateek Arora (parora) | 14:21 |
| cdent | people are on it though, so no crisis | 14:21 |
| mriedem | ok moving on | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | tdurakov: live migration meeting highlights? | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | ok i guess tdurakov isn't here, and didn't dump any highlights | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | i didn't attend the full meeting, but tdurakov has patches up to enable ceph + ephemeral in the live migration job | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | that's been his focus from what i can tell, i just need to re-review that series | 14:23 |
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| tdurakov | mriedem: hi, right, also, several patches that worth review | 14:24 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: ok make sure those are in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking please | 14:24 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: acked | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | let's move on | 14:24 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: api meeting highlights? | 14:24 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: ^ did you attend the api meeting this week? | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I was just looking up the reviews | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | capabilities API WG spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386555/1 | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | the parameter validation framework spec, to help cells v2 stuff: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388518 | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | also the POC for that spec is up | 14:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | waiting on the spec for the /servers filter changes themselves | 14:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | POC is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389003/ | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think that the main bits | 14:27 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | i also wanted to point out 2 specs with +2s for the api | 14:27 |
| jaypipes | hey guys, sorry for being late | 14:27 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386771/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357884/ | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | for simple tenant usage paging and the diagnostics info | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, they are on my TODO list now | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 14:28 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau: was there an sriov/pci meeting this week? | 14:28 |
| lbeliveau | mridem: yes | 14:29 |
| mriedem | anything you want to share? | 14:29 |
| lbeliveau | discussed mostly blueprints and patches to push (which is done already) | 14:29 |
| lbeliveau | that's it | 14:29 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:29 |
| mriedem | gibi_: notifications meeting? | 14:30 |
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| mriedem | looks like several were just approved https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-ocata | 14:30 |
| mriedem | making some decent progress there | 14:30 |
| mriedem | and the searchlight team reported some bugs | 14:30 |
| mriedem | for potential gaps, e.g. putting volume attachments (bdms) in the server notifications | 14:31 |
| mriedem | i think searchlight's goal is to sync up the REST API and the notifications | 14:31 |
| mriedem | the server notifications expose interface attachments, so it seems to make sense to also put bdms in that notification | 14:31 |
| mriedem | anyone disagree? | 14:31 |
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| dansmith | no | 14:32 |
| mriedem | note: i still worry about performance hits to building notification payloads that don't get sent | 14:32 |
| mriedem | b/c to get the bdms we'll have to go back to the db | 14:32 |
| mriedem | there was a ml thread on this but didn't go very far | 14:32 |
| bauzas | I think it's acceptable to lookup the BDMs for sending them over the wire if we need them | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought most of the time we already have the objects we are sending though | 14:33 |
| cdent | mriedem: I got the impression that you were agreed with and it would be figured out when we get there? | 14:33 |
| mriedem | sometimes we do | 14:33 |
| mriedem | anyway, we can move on | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | frankly BDMs should be part of the instance, like all the other bits are, its so wasteful right now because its not, but thats a total distraction | 14:33 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah that was the dumbest idea ever :/ | 14:33 |
| mriedem | cdent: i'm failing to parse that | 14:34 |
| mriedem | what is it and there? | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: you mean BDMs being separate? | 14:34 |
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| cdent | mriedem: on the mailing list people agreed with your assessment of the problem and that it ought to be guarded against and we'll figure it out, somehow | 14:34 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: no BDMs including instance instead of instances including their BDMs | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: right | 14:35 |
| cdent | mriedem: where "it" is building notifications | 14:35 |
| mriedem | cdent: yeah, there is agreement that it's an issue | 14:35 |
| mriedem | which makes me feel warm and fuzzy | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess its already done, so needs fixing like you suggested | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | probably just falls into the oslo.messaging realm to see if there is a way they can tell us if notifications are enabled for a certain host/queue | 14:36 |
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| mriedem | moving on | 14:36 |
| mriedem | #stuck reviews | 14:36 |
| mriedem | oops | 14:36 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:36 |
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| mriedem | (dane-fichter): Tempest changes to support security testing gate are held up. Some reviews from people in the Nova community would be helpful: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392329/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390085/ | 14:36 |
| dane-fichter | yes ok I have a question for nova folks | 14:37 |
| dane-fichter | would it be acceptable to have the security scenarios in the barbican tempest plugin | 14:37 |
| dane-fichter | or should they be in tempest itself | 14:37 |
| mriedem | the barbican tempest plugin | 14:37 |
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| mriedem | which we'll enable when we pull barbican/devstack plugin into a security-specific CI job | 14:38 |
| dane-fichter | alright I guess that solves that debate | 14:38 |
| mriedem | :) | 14:38 |
| dane-fichter | thanks. that's it for me | 14:38 |
| mriedem | sure, thanks for bringing it up | 14:38 |
| dane-fichter | no problem | 14:38 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | (jroll): Specless blueprint for "Update Ironic plug/unplug_vifs to use new Ironic interface attach/detach APIs": https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ironic-plug-unplug-vifs-update | 14:39 |
| jroll | hey | 14:39 |
| jroll | so the ironic spec is attached to this, curious if we want a nova spec as well | 14:39 |
| jroll | the nova side is basically "rework plug_vifs to use a less crappy api" | 14:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | does this want to be converted to an os-vif driver? | 14:40 |
| mriedem | what's the status on the ironic api? | 14:40 |
| jroll | if you want to wait for the ironic side to complete before approving the bp, that's cool | 14:40 |
| mriedem | i do | 14:40 |
| jroll | mriedem: spec in review, code up and working | 14:40 |
| jroll | anyway, wanted to bring it up and see if we should start hacking on the spec | 14:40 |
| jroll | or if it can just be done | 14:41 |
| mriedem | will the special ironic + multitenant networking CI job in nova's experimental queue test this? | 14:41 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: I'm not sure why we would or would not want to do that | 14:41 |
| jroll | mriedem: all ironic jobs would exercise this | 14:41 |
| jroll | it's refactoring, essentially, not a new feature | 14:41 |
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| mriedem | so with this change, it looks like 2 things could be eventually pulled out of the neutron api code we have, (1) the mac address set and (2) the binding host ID stuff? | 14:42 |
| mriedem | is that correct? | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: in a cloud with libvirt and ironic, say, when you create a port for ironic you may activate a different neutron backend, and os-vif will drive the negotiation there, but there are more questions in that info than questions | 14:42 |
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| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: more questions than questions? | 14:42 |
| dansmith | that's a lot of questions | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, not sure about the binding host id stuff moving, I need to get my head around how this really works | 14:42 |
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| jroll | mriedem: (1) yes, (2) don't think so | 14:43 |
| jroll | actually, I think the nova code is up | 14:43 |
| mriedem | jroll: does the ironic spec mention the impacts to nova? | 14:43 |
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| mriedem | jroll: if the ironic spec has the high-level nova impacts i'm fine with not duplicating that in a nova spec | 14:43 |
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| mriedem | i think that's what ironic has been doing of late | 14:43 |
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| jroll | mriedem: nova poc https://review.openstack.org/#/c/364413/ | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: creeping towards levels of infinity there I guess | 14:44 |
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| jroll | mriedem: and yeah, it's there https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317636/9/specs/approved/interface-attach-detach-api.rst | 14:44 |
| jroll | line 185 | 14:44 |
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| mriedem | ok, cool. | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | that POC kinds points towards it only affecting the driver, which is handy | 14:45 |
| mriedem | so i think we'll just let the nova bp sit until the ironic spec is good to go | 14:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, good to wait for the ironic BP to merge | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | spec | 14:45 |
| jroll | sounds good, I'll bug you when that lands, hoping for next week | 14:45 |
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| mmedvede | hey nova team, I'd like to request permission for IBM PowerKVM CI to start voting on nova patches. We have been reporting on changes for quite some time now | 14:45 |
| mriedem | i look forward to it | 14:46 |
| mriedem | mmedvede: is that the nova-net one or the neutron one? | 14:46 |
| jroll | awesome, thanks | 14:46 |
| mmedvede | mriedem: the nova-net for now | 14:46 |
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| mriedem | mmedvede: i think i'd prefer to wait for the neutron backed job | 14:46 |
| mriedem | and see how that shakes out | 14:46 |
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| dansmith | yeah, a week ago I wouldn't have cared | 14:47 |
| mmedvede | mriedem: ok, sounds reasonable | 14:47 |
| dansmith | but.. were right in the middle of trying to make it always fail :) | 14:47 |
| dansmith | *we're | 14:47 |
| mriedem | mmedvede: fwiw, if you're using devstack-gate, you might just start running neutron by default real soon | 14:47 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392934/ | 14:47 |
| mriedem | when ^ lands sparks might fly | 14:48 |
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| cdent | sparks++ | 14:48 |
| mmedvede | hehe | 14:48 |
| mriedem | ok anything else? | 14:48 |
| mriedem | nope. ok thanks everyone. | 14:48 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 3 14:48:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-11-03-14.00.html | 14:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-11-03-14.00.txt | 14:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-11-03-14.00.log.html | 14:48 |
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| jaypipes | alex_xu: pushed up fixes for your review comments on the ResourceClassNotFound patch. Thanks much for the review! | 14:57 |
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| john-davidge | Anyone for the networking guide meeting? | 16:01 |
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| dasm | john-davidge: isn't it (like majority of meetings) postponed till next week? | 16:07 |
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| john-davidge | dasm: It is now! :P | 16:09 |
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| russellb | Hi, is anyone around to talk about networking-ovn? | 18:00 |
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| russellb | chandrav: hi! | 18:02 |
| * russellb hasn't started meeting yet, nobody else has been around | 18:03 | |
| russellb | but we can do a quick one if you're here for that | 18:03 |
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| chandrav | Hi rusellb | 18:03 |
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| russellb | #startmeeting networking_ovn | 18:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 3 18:04:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is russellb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ovn' | 18:04 |
| russellb | #topic Announcements | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:04 | |
| russellb | Last week we had the OpenStack Summit | 18:04 |
| russellb | There was a general OVN talk | 18:04 |
| russellb | #link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3cJ6ezPnCU | 18:04 |
| russellb | we also had a design summit session on networking-ovn, discussing plans for the cycle | 18:04 |
| russellb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-ovn-ocata-summit | 18:04 |
| russellb | #topic patches | 18:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "patches (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:05 | |
| russellb | chandrav: thanks for rebasing the snat / floating ip patch! | 18:05 |
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| russellb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346646/ | 18:05 |
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| chandrav | Richard gave a -1 bcoz of missing sync code | 18:05 |
| russellb | yes, i saw that update | 18:06 |
| chandrav | i think that can be a follow up patch, would like to know your opinion | 18:06 |
| russellb | chandrav: i think his concern is that it breaks a working CI job | 18:06 |
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| chandrav | Which CI job is this ? isnt the CI job in log mode for the sync ? | 18:07 |
| russellb | let me see if i can find the bug where he mentioned that ... | 18:07 |
| russellb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1634511 | 18:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1634511 in networking-ovn "Switch multi-node CI job for networking-ovn to voting" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:07 |
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| russellb | but i'm not sure that what he asked for is related to that failure | 18:09 |
| chandrav | yeah, i dont see how it relates to the failure | 18:09 |
| russellb | i think you're right | 18:09 |
| chandrav | the sync mode by default is set to log and not repair IIRC | 18:10 |
| russellb | yes | 18:10 |
| russellb | OK, can you file a bug for the sync util issue then? | 18:11 |
| russellb | are you interested in working on that, or need someone else to pick it up? | 18:11 |
| chandrav | https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1629076. | 18:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629076 in networking-ovn "Add sync tool support for NAT" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Chandra Sekhar Vejendla (csvejend) | 18:12 |
| chandrav | If someone can take it up that will be great | 18:12 |
| russellb | ok | 18:12 |
| russellb | how about the minor comments from gary | 18:12 |
| russellb | want to update for those? or want me to? | 18:12 |
| russellb | i'm happy to | 18:13 |
| chandrav | i'll fix them and push a patch in a few mins | 18:13 |
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| russellb | thanks for your help, chandrav | 18:14 |
| russellb | #topic open discussion | 18:14 |
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| russellb | anything else for today? | 18:15 |
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| russellb | we can continue any further discussion over in #openstack-neutron-ovn | 18:17 |
| russellb | thanks! | 18:17 |
| russellb | #endmeeting | 18:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:17 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 3 18:17:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-11-03-18.04.html | 18:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-11-03-18.04.txt | 18:17 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-11-03-18.04.log.html | 18:17 |
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| armax | hello | 22:00 |
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| armax | knock knock | 22:00 |
| armax | anyone out there? | 22:00 |
| ihrachys | yeah though almost missed it | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | hi | 22:00 |
| ihrachys | bloody tz | 22:00 |
| armax | ihrachys: it looks it might be just me, you... | 22:01 |
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| kevinbenton | !@ | 22:01 |
| openstack | kevinbenton: Error: "@" is not a valid command. | 22:01 |
| armax | maybe kevinbenton | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | who else is on this team right now? | 22:01 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: still around Vienna | 22:01 |
| ihrachys | ? | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | no, i was in vienna before the summit | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | just got around to uploading the pics to facebook :) | 22:02 |
| armax | amuller, amotoki, HenryG, carl_baldwin and that’s about it | 22:02 |
| HenryG | o/ | 22:02 |
| armax | wow, that’s a late response | 22:02 |
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| armax | !@ | 22:02 |
| openstack | armax: Error: "@" is not a valid command. | 22:02 |
| armax | that’s better | 22:02 |
| ihrachys | armax: it respects you more | 22:03 |
| armax | ihrachys: there you go | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | ! :'( | 22:03 |
| openstack | kevinbenton: Error: ":'(" is not a valid command. | 22:03 |
| armax | !! | 22:03 |
| openstack | armax: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 22:03 |
| HenryG | !? | 22:03 |
| openstack | HenryG: Error: "?" is not a valid command. | 22:03 |
| armax | ?! | 22:03 |
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| armax | ok, shall we start and perhaps have a brief touch point? | 22:03 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 3 22:03:55 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | code of conduct violation | 22:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:03 |
| ihrachys | is it neutron drivers or neutron kindergarten meeting? couldn't deduce | 22:04 |
| HenryG | is there a difference? | 22:04 |
| armax | probably not | 22:04 |
| armax | ok guys, let’s be quick for ihrachys’ sake | 22:05 |
| armax | despite him gaining back an hour | 22:05 |
| armax | he’s still pretty sleepy | 22:05 |
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| armax | for our US folks, next week we switch back from daylight saving | 22:05 |
| armax | so this meeting we’ll start an hour earlier | 22:06 |
| armax | so the team meeting, for instance is 6am PST | 22:06 |
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| armax | if I didn’t join at 7am, imagine what happens now | 22:06 |
| armax | anyhoo | 22:06 |
| armax | I digress | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | well at least it's not too early | 22:06 |
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| armax | let’s talk about the stadium assessment really quick | 22:07 |
| armax | right now we have these pending patches: | 22:07 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron-specs+branch:master+topic:stadium-implosion | 22:07 |
| armax | those that are good to go I believe are | 22:07 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383908/ | 22:07 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383882/ | 22:07 |
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| armax | I have not seem much activity on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/383907/ | 22:08 |
| armax | so that’s probably good too | 22:08 |
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| armax | I’ll respin the others | 22:08 |
| armax | by the end of today | 22:08 |
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| armax | if you guys can keep an eye on them | 22:08 |
| HenryG | I tried to ping neil, no response today | 22:08 |
| armax | HenryG: he and I had a chat at the summit | 22:09 |
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| armax | he’ll be working on some of the feedback | 22:09 |
| ihrachys | last time I heard from neil was on Fri at the summit, asking about some gaps to close | 22:09 |
| armax | but time and resources are tight | 22:09 |
| armax | we’ll support him the best way we can | 22:09 |
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| armax | as things stand, it’s unlikely calico is gonna make the cut | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | the question is, will he be able to deliver much in next week. I doubt. | 22:10 |
| armax | but miracles do happen | 22:10 |
| armax | ihrachys: you’re not a man of faith? | 22:10 |
| ihrachys | armax: doesn't seem you are; I am just copying from the best | 22:10 |
| armax | ihrachys: I used to be | 22:11 |
| armax | ihrachys: :) | 22:11 |
| armax | anyhoo, I’ll refresh these, then I’ll make sure that the summary capture an updated snapshot of where things stand | 22:11 |
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| armax | I started with revisiting the governance list | 22:12 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392010/ | 22:12 |
| armax | as you can see, the projects don’t disappear | 22:12 |
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| armax | and assumed someone pulls the right weight behind them again, there’s no reason why the patch can’t be reverted | 22:13 |
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| ihrachys | that retirement is reversible right? they just propose a patch on top, either moving under tent, or into stadium, again | 22:14 |
| armax | ihrachys: correct | 22:14 |
| armax | a tangential effort I am poking at slowly is this | 22:14 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391594/ | 22:14 |
| armax | this is another area to which I would like to bring some sanity too | 22:14 |
| armax | of all the gazillion drivers we have in neutron, in tree, out of tree and those that rely on 3rd party | 22:15 |
| armax | ci | 22:15 |
| armax | there’s no common standard to use as a comparative measure | 22:15 |
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| armax | if I get some blessing from the tempest folks in the direction | 22:16 |
| armax | then I would like to extend these to our internal API tests too | 22:16 |
| armax | I talked to thingee a few times in the past about this and I also look forward to his feedback | 22:17 |
| thingee | armax can you point me to any discussion or patch? | 22:17 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/391594/ | 22:18 |
| thingee | thanks | 22:18 |
| armax | we had a verbal discussion last week | 22:18 |
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| armax | plus a few emails way back | 22:18 |
| ihrachys | I may easily miss the point, so sorry for that; but that seems more like redefining extensions and/or defcore, which is suspicious. but I need to have a closer look (I will tomorrow) | 22:19 |
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| armax | ihrachys: not quite, but if I was unable to convey my message clearly I obviosuly need to work on it | 22:20 |
| armax | the patch is just a start | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | well, it may well be me not being able to grasp the idea in 1 minute of reading the commit message :P | 22:20 |
| armax | I did not want to put an awful lot of work into it without having an initial feedback | 22:20 |
| armax | ihrachys: sure | 22:20 |
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| armax | as to your specific point | 22:20 |
| armax | today when we look at the list of neutron extensions | 22:21 |
| armax | the list is flat | 22:21 |
| thingee | armax thanks for starting this | 22:21 |
| armax | we don’t know which plugins implement which extensions | 22:21 |
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| armax | ihrachys: there’s probably a few ways to skin this cat, but give it some thought and we can talk at a better time of your day :) | 22:22 |
| ihrachys | ofc | 22:22 |
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| armax | as soon as next week I’d like to resume reviewing some RFEs | 22:23 |
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| armax | I appreciate the cycle is tight | 22:23 |
| armax | and we most likely won’t be able to tackle any | 22:23 |
| armax | but at least we can give some feedback to submitters | 22:24 |
| armax | on whether they are on the right track or not | 22:24 |
| armax | so if you guys can spare a few momemnts out of your week to look at the usual lists | 22:25 |
| armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.tag=rfe | 22:25 |
| armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.tag=rfe | 22:25 |
| armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:25 |
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| armax | that would be good | 22:25 |
| armax | I usually carve some time to screen the lists before the meeting anyway | 22:25 |
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| HenryG | Did you see this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1638399 | 22:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638399 in neutron "EC2 networking driver for Neutron" [Undecided,New] | 22:26 |
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| armax | yes | 22:26 |
| armax | it was filed as blueprint to start off | 22:26 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: I think it was at a keynote | 22:27 |
| ihrachys | oh right, that's what it says in the desc | 22:27 |
| ihrachys | I don't believe we need to have it in scope of neutron itself do we? | 22:28 |
| armax | I haven’t given it any thought yet | 22:28 |
| HenryG | About neutron-lib | 22:29 |
| armax | ihrachys: it doesnt’ have to be, but I suppose we can also look at it from the perspective of stadium inclusion criteria and judge that way | 22:30 |
| armax | HenryG: shoot | 22:30 |
| ihrachys | armax: it would need to first move to our infra and apply significant effort to get to that point where we could judge it | 22:30 |
| armax | ihrachys: agreed | 22:31 |
| HenryG | How do we make it official about the new policy for rehoming and (not) deprecating code? | 22:31 |
| armax | HenryG: make official what exactly? | 22:31 |
| armax | oh | 22:31 |
| armax | HenryG: I added a section here: | 22:31 |
| armax | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Neutron-lib_and_planned_breakages | 22:31 |
| armax | I was going to use the latest neutron-lib release as a way to trial the process a bit | 22:32 |
| armax | so bear with me | 22:32 |
| armax | I’ll probably tweak the title | 22:32 |
| HenryG | OK. Will we need an entry in policies.rst? | 22:32 |
| armax | what for? | 22:32 |
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| HenryG | To make it official. I guess I am not seeing how we can defend ourselves when we break others. | 22:33 |
| armax | understood | 22:33 |
| armax | would a link to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331338/ (in whichever shape that is going to merge) suffice? | 22:33 |
| armax | we’ll have to announce this on the various media we have at our disposal anyway | 22:34 |
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| HenryG | Yes, that seems about right | 22:34 |
| armax | to make sure the people who pay attention have a chance to absorb the change | 22:34 |
| armax | renamed to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Neutron-lib_and_planned_neutron_refactoring btw | 22:35 |
| armax | btw we have neutron-lib 1.0.0 by the looks of it | 22:36 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392009/ | 22:36 |
| HenryG | yep, cool | 22:36 |
| armax | I don’t see it here yet | 22:36 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/requirements+status:open | 22:36 |
| armax | but I recall from an email from dhellmann that the process is changing slightly | 22:37 |
| HenryG | Are we missing something? | 22:37 |
| HenryG | Or is it just the usual latency? | 22:37 |
| armax | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106593.html | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | release-post job still running for the release | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | 4:31 already | 22:38 |
| armax | point * Updating upper-constraints.txt for a release | 22:38 |
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| ihrachys | so pypi does not really have a tarball | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | so nothing to update from | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | another release-post job is hanging for 7hours already. | 22:40 |
| ihrachys | it will take time | 22:40 |
| armax | ouch | 22:40 |
| armax | I was hoping I could use my bulldozzer straight away | 22:40 |
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| armax | ok | 22:42 |
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| armax | I don’t think I have much else on my plate | 22:42 |
| armax | and I promised I’d get ihrachys off the hook sooner | 22:42 |
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| armax | than usual | 22:42 |
| armax | we could have him stick another hour though since he’s already back to standard time | 22:42 |
| ihrachys | :) | 22:43 |
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| armax | anything else that comes to mind from everyone? | 22:43 |
| armax | words of praise/despair/dislike/anger/joy? | 22:43 |
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| armax | ok it looks like you guys have lost the will to live | 22:45 |
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| * ihrachys waves | 22:46 | |
| HenryG | ARMAX IS THE GREATEST | 22:46 |
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| armax | I’ll let you swim in your silence | 22:46 |
| armax | HenryG: I didn’t say to use words of derision | 22:46 |
| armax | anyhoo :) | 22:46 |
| armax | have a good weekend when it comes | 22:47 |
| armax | cheers everyone | 22:47 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:47 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 22:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 3 22:47:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-11-03-22.03.html | 22:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-11-03-22.03.txt | 22:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-11-03-22.03.log.html | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | by! | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | e | 22:47 |
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