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| huzhj | #startmeeting daisycloud | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Sep 30 08:00:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is huzhj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'daisycloud' | 08:00 |
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| huzhj | #topic Roll Call | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:01 | |
| zhouya | #zhouya | 08:01 |
| huzhj | #info ZHijiang | 08:01 |
| zhouya | #info zhouya | 08:01 |
| huzhj | #undo | 08:01 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x7f66f512d190> | 08:01 |
| huzhj | #info Zhijiang | 08:01 |
| huzhj | Hi @zhouya | 08:02 |
| zhouya | Hi boss | 08:02 |
| huzhj | Seems few people come today | 08:04 |
| zhouya | absolutely | 08:04 |
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| zhouya | maybe they are busy with their works | 08:05 |
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| huzhj | Or prepare for the vacation:) | 08:05 |
| huzhj | Any way | 08:05 |
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| huzhj | #topic Core Code Abstraction | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Core Code Abstraction (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:05 | |
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| huzhj | @zhouya, I am looking at your code about the os installer abstraction layer | 08:06 |
| huzhj | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372867/31/code/daisy/daisy/api/v1/install.py | 08:06 |
| zhouya | yes | 08:06 |
| zhouya | I need a little modify of this commit | 08:07 |
| huzhj | I do not know what the exact meaning of the condition if 'deployment_interface' in install_meta: | 08:07 |
| huzhj | why the function return if it is true? | 08:08 |
| zhouya | Neither do I | 08:08 |
| huzhj | why not go ahead to do the installer? | 08:08 |
| huzhj | why not go ahead to do the installation? | 08:08 |
| zhouya | I think it is related to cluster-install | 08:09 |
| huzhj | And I thought it is suppoosed to install the OS right? But why the comment says Install "TECS to a cluster"? | 08:09 |
| zhouya | I do not think this place need to do this judge | 08:10 |
| huzhj | pxe_server_build related to pxe sequence, I think Yao know it | 08:11 |
| zhouya | And the pxe-server-build should not put here | 08:11 |
| huzhj | Where do you think it should be moved to? | 08:11 |
| zhouya | Maybe I should get help from Yao | 08:12 |
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| huzhj | Good | 08:12 |
| zhouya | I think it should move to pxe/install.py | 08:12 |
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| zhouya | But I think it is better to discuss this with Yao | 08:13 |
| huzhj | #action @zhouya will investigate the purpose of the pxe_server_build() in install_cluster(). | 08:13 |
| huzhj | OK, any other things about this topic? | 08:14 |
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| zhouya | no | 08:15 |
| huzhj | #topic Bifrost/Ironic Integration | 08:15 |
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| huzhj | @zhouya I saw your patch still hanging there. May be you should move step forward to push the core members of ironic? what do you think? | 08:16 |
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| zhouya | I send a email to ironic team | 08:17 |
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| zhouya | And this afternoon，John give me some advice | 08:18 |
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| zhouya | I just modify the code，and，I will get some advice from other ironic teams | 08:19 |
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| huzhj | Good. For this kind of things, I think if we don't push them, they won't merge it. | 08:20 |
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| zhouya | Yes | 08:20 |
| huzhj | Or may be they are busy with newton release. | 08:21 |
| zhouya | and I will contact frequently with ironic team s | 08:21 |
| huzhj | Thanks | 08:22 |
| huzhj | #action @zhouya will keep contact with ironic team | 08:22 |
| huzhj | OK, shall we move to the next topic? | 08:22 |
| zhouya | OK | 08:22 |
| huzhj | #topic OPNFV: Daisy4nfv CI Framework Progress | 08:23 |
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| huzhj | since we can not reach Jing, so I do not think we have anything about this. | 08:24 |
| huzhj | #topic Bare Metal Deployment(PXE/IPMI) demo2 doc and artifact | 08:24 |
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| huzhj | #info The demo2 is out | 08:25 |
| zhouya | congratulations | 08:25 |
| huzhj | #info you can get from repo by cloning and swtiching to tag 1.2.0 | 08:25 |
| zhouya | great | 08:26 |
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| huzhj | #action @huzhj will create a document on how to do baremetal deployment for this demo. | 08:27 |
| huzhj | I am still waiting for Yao to send me the cli howto. | 08:28 |
| huzhj | I am not very familiar with daisy cli :) | 08:28 |
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| zhouya | I think she will work out it | 08:29 |
| zhouya | soon | 08:29 |
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| huzhj | Good , I have just got her email. | 08:32 |
| zhouya | great | 08:33 |
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| huzhj | OK, we'd better upload her script to gerrit to review it. I will do this for her, cuz she will not avaliable next two weeks | 08:37 |
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| zhouya | OK | 08:37 |
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| huzhj | Basically she uses template, it is a convenient way to docommand line auto deployment. | 08:40 |
| huzhj | It is also helpful for Jing to deploy OPNFV pod. | 08:40 |
| zhouya | exactly | 08:40 |
| huzhj | OK, nothing for this topic | 08:41 |
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| huzhj | OK we have gone through all topics for today | 08:42 |
| huzhj | What else could be discussed? | 08:43 |
| zhouya | nothing from me | 08:43 |
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| huzhj | OK, let's wrap up. | 08:44 |
| zhouya | OK | 08:44 |
| huzhj | Have a good national day vacation! | 08:44 |
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| zhouya | T和 same to you | 08:44 |
| zhouya | The same to you | 08:45 |
| huzhj | @zhouya will you stay at Nanjing or go back home for this vacation? | 08:45 |
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| zhouya | today and tomorrow will have traffic jam | 08:46 |
| huzhj | exactly | 08:46 |
| zhouya | So I will go home 10.2 | 08:46 |
| huzhj | goood choice | 08:46 |
| huzhj | :) | 08:47 |
| huzhj | #endmeeting | 08:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Sep 30 08:47:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2016/daisycloud.2016-09-30-08.00.html | 08:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2016/daisycloud.2016-09-30-08.00.txt | 08:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2016/daisycloud.2016-09-30-08.00.log.html | 08:47 |
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| jaypipes | awww, jgriffith, you'll always be my super cool bro-grammer. | 12:24 |
| jaypipes | jgriffith: of course, we're a bit older than the uber hipsters, but hey, we can hobble into the old-age home for software engineers together ;P | 12:24 |
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| dims | jaypipes : just follow me :) (old-age home for s/w engineers) | 12:55 |
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| sigmavirus | release team meeting soon? | 13:58 |
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| dhellmann | sigmavirus : yes | 14:00 |
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| dhellmann | now in fact | 14:00 |
| sigmavirus | :) | 14:00 |
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| dhellmann | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Sep 30 14:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 14:00 |
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| dhellmann | courtesy ping: ttx, dims, fungi | 14:00 |
| dims | o/ | 14:00 |
| ttx | o/ | 14:00 |
| fungi | the audience was getting restless, i see | 14:00 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | this is week R-1 and our agenda is in the usual etherpad | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-relmgt-tracking | 14:01 |
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| dhellmann | #topic projects needing attention | 14:01 |
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| dhellmann | things look good for the most part, though we have a few projects with unreleased changes in stable/newton | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/583626/ | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | ttx, you added this item, did you have specific thoughts on any of these? | 14:02 |
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| ttx | I was wondering about pinging PTLs on IRC to remind them on the deadline | 14:02 |
| ttx | Same for the ones which have pending translations | 14:02 |
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| dhellmann | ok | 14:03 |
| ttx | to reduce RCs on last week | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | well, this is the last week, right? | 14:03 |
| dims | that's what i was telling people dhellmann :) | 14:03 |
| ttx | let's say to reduce exception pressure on last week | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | ah | 14:03 |
| dims | :) | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | so we could do that, or we could tell people to plan on having patch releases | 14:04 |
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| dims | stevemar indicated that one pending translation is not really critical to do a rc3 for keystone | 14:04 |
| ttx | I was thinking just a courtesy ping, not chasing them down | 14:04 |
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| dhellmann | ok | 14:04 |
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| ttx | can do a batch after meeting | 14:05 |
| dims | ++ to courtesy ping | 14:05 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, I guess it's ok. I'm worried that we keep setting a precedent of reminding people to do things they should be paying attention to in the first place | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | how about an email to the -dev list, with the projects tagged as well as [release]? | 14:05 |
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| ttx | I think they have been warned on the ML enough.. IRC pings allows to differentiate. Also less official | 14:06 |
| ttx | the ML could set a precedent | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | yeah, ok | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | alright, so let's make a list then | 14:07 |
| ttx | I'll do it so that it doesn't feel like it's a relmgt PTL duty | 14:07 |
| ttx | Will ping ceilo, congress, senlinhorizon, zaqar | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | I've already talked to stevemar about keystone and that translation patch is apparently removing some messages rather than adding any | 14:07 |
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| ttx | dims said stevemar is covered | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 14:07 |
| ttx | I'll ping jd nowsince he is EU | 14:08 |
| dhellmann | ok | 14:08 |
| dhellmann | there are a couple of other projects called out in the agenda, including monasca and tripleo | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | hi, EmilienM | 14:09 |
| ttx | yeah, that's me reading the tracking sheet | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | lack of branches? | 14:09 |
| ttx | let me see again | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | hi dhellmann, my question was about could we release an RC3 next week, we're still fixing critial bugs at this time | 14:09 |
| * ttx is quite sick today so not at 100% | 14:09 | |
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| dhellmann | ttx: sorry to hear that. do you want me to handle those pings? | 14:10 |
| ttx | no no, that sounds easy enough :) | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : that's up next, stand by | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | k | 14:10 |
| ttx | yeah so monasca, no stable branch, no recent release | 14:10 |
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| dhellmann | I see no branches for monasca, solum, tripleo, & fuel | 14:11 |
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| dhellmann | the monasca release listed as their rc1 was pretty recent | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | no branch for tripleo? which project in specific? | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | I didn't get a clear indication that they were ready for a branch, so I didn't create it | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wy_YgMQ1MowE9Loztn6QAsMGOfVkVsqIQVdcIdrHAtI/edit#gid=2082157708 | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : looks like os-*-config | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | I have some notes about "wait for rc2 to branch" but we either didn't branch or didn't record it | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | I'll double check that after the meeting | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | os-* don't have branches AFIK | 14:12 |
| ttx | fuel is arguably trailing | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | ttx: right | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | or at least they never had branch before, so I didn't request for it | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | I wasn't sure about those tripleo components, either, because of the late gate issues | 14:13 |
| EmilienM | I've checked but AFIK all tripleo projects that we want branched are branched now | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : ok, we can make those at any point, so I was just leaving them until I was sure someone wanted them | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | cool | 14:13 |
| ttx | I'm pretty sure some of those will just show up on Wednesday and ask for a release | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | ttx: the trailing projects? | 14:13 |
| ttx | no, solum/monasca | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | oh, well, they'll be sad then | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | no more intermediary releases before 10 Oct, right? | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | after today, that is | 14:14 |
| ttx | dhellmann: any reason why solum/monasca don't have stable ? They didn't ask ? | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | ttx: right, they didn't confirm that they were ready | 14:14 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: unless they can point to some seriously embarassing regression | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | ttx: of course, sure | 14:15 |
| ttx | dhellmann: ok so plan there is just to cutr the branch Thursday when we make them the release ? | 14:15 |
| ttx | solum seems to have a recent (~RC1) thing | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I had planned to wait for them to notice that they didn't have a branch and to ask for it | 14:16 |
| * dims afk for a little bit, promise to read scrollback | 14:16 | |
| dhellmann | I want to start encouraging them to get into the self-service mode, since we're planning to add branch requests to the deliverable files next cycle | 14:16 |
| ttx | dhellmann: as long as we can include the latest in the "final" I guess we are good | 14:16 |
| ttx | no absolute need to cut the stable branch | 14:16 |
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| dhellmann | right, we'll move ahead with releases as they are and deal with the stragglers' branches later | 14:17 |
| ttx | ok, and monasca looks like reasonably similar, recently updated | 14:17 |
| ttx | that leaves the os-* tripleO things which are a bit baffling | 14:17 |
| ttx | (i.e. using RC while intermediary and no stable branch) | 14:18 |
| ttx | but then my head hurts | 14:18 |
| fungi | the outstanding stable/newton backports for the ossa i was worried about seemed to make it into cinder and glance rc2, so i'm satisfied | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | what would you suggest? to change the release model? | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : are those os-*-config projects ready for final releases next week, re-tagging the existing items? | 14:18 |
| EmilienM | dhellmann: they are ready for final release. | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : the version numbers and model need to sync up, yes | 14:18 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: what do you think about tagging those finals today, then? | 14:19 |
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| dhellmann | fungi : good, thanks | 14:19 |
| sigmavirus | fungi: thanks for pinging about those btw (from glance's side) | 14:19 |
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| EmilienM | os-*-config are release:cycle-with-milestones | 14:19 |
| EmilienM | does release:cycle-with-milestones require stable branches? | 14:19 |
| ttx | are they? | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : are they? maybe we imported them incorrectly into this sheet | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | sounds like yes: https://governance.openstack.org/reference/tags/release_cycle-with-milestones.html#rationale | 14:20 |
| dhellmann | so they are | 14:20 |
| ttx | dhellmann: if they are intermediary, tagging a "final" today sounds good | 14:20 |
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| ttx | if milestones-driven, then RC track it is | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | well, it's not clear to me in the governance link | 14:20 |
| ttx | and retarg on Thusrday | 14:20 |
| dhellmann | since they're milestone-based I'll fix the spreadsheet | 14:20 |
| EmilienM | if whether or not release_cycle-with-milestones requires stable branching? | 14:21 |
| ttx | dhellmann: should they already have their stable branch then ? | 14:21 |
| ttx | EmilienM: it does, around RC1 | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : we expect *all* cycle-based projects to use stable branches | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | ok, so let's create them | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | ok, I will do that today using the most recent rc | 14:21 |
| EmilienM | dhellmann: thank you and sorry for confusion | 14:21 |
| * EmilienM learning everyday :) | 14:22 | |
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| dhellmann | EmilienM : np, we should have been more careful with version reviews early in the cycle | 14:22 |
| dhellmann | we're learning, too :-) | 14:22 |
| sigmavirus | EmilienM: count me in with you ;) | 14:22 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : you'll want to review those to make sure that any changes that have come in after the last rc are backported if you plan a newton update release | 14:22 |
| EmilienM | dhellmann: ack | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | dhellmann: I'll communicate with my team | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 14:23 |
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| dhellmann | ttx, did I cover all of the projects with issues that you'd found? | 14:23 |
| ttx | yes | 14:24 |
| dhellmann | ok, moving on then | 14:24 |
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| dhellmann | #topic trailing project release candidates | 14:24 |
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| dhellmann | EmilienM had asked whether it was OK to have more release candidates for trailing projects between now and their final deadline | 14:24 |
| dhellmann | my initial response was yes, but I wanted to talk it over and make sure I wasn't missing something | 14:24 |
| dhellmann | thoughts? | 14:25 |
| EmilienM | yes, we made our best to respect the deadlines but we still have critical bugs reported by our operators | 14:25 |
| fungi | their integration test jobs will continue testing against master branches of other projects which have already released for the cycle, but that will be the case with or without additional rc tags | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | ie: we have currently working hard on upgrades and ipv6 | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | sure, that's why we added the trailing release model | 14:26 |
| fungi | or do the trailing projects already have stable/newton branches at this point? | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | fungi: we have stable/newton jobs | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | fungi : we do have branches for a lot of them | 14:26 |
| EmilienM | fungi: tripleo included | 14:27 |
| fungi | oh, okay, that solves for it then | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | but that's a good point: we should not, in the future, delay branching the trailing projects | 14:27 |
| EmilienM | so my request is to release RC2 by next Thursday | 14:27 |
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| EmilienM | we still have patches that will require backports (everything about upgrade for example) | 14:27 |
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| dhellmann | right | 14:27 |
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| EmilienM | RC3 sorry | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | RC2 is already release (/me facepalm) | 14:28 |
| dhellmann | we'll be tagging the final releases of the other projects thursday, early, so if we wait a bit and do the next rc for trailing projects later in the day that should be ok | 14:28 |
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| dhellmann | ideally we wouldn't do them the same day, but I don't want to rush you or do a release on friday | 14:28 |
| EmilienM | ok I'll be online Thursday/Friday ready to release and help with it | 14:29 |
| ttx | dhellmann: maybe say they should all have stable branches by release day | 14:29 |
| ttx | ? | 14:29 |
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| EmilienM | I don't mind to release next Friday. It's all up to you | 14:29 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: I believe all of them do? we have some puppet deliverables listed that don't seem like they're going to be released at all this cycle, but the ones that have releases have branches | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | ttx: I think that's fine, some people in our team are already working on ocata codebase. But other folks are still on newton | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | dhellmann: re-puppet : no some modules are not production ready, we don't want to release them until they have functional tests. | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | ie: puppet-congress, etc | 14:30 |
| EmilienM | they are still WIP so no need to release them imho | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | EmilienM : that's fine, I think we talked about that so I've just been ignoring those rows on the spreadsheet | 14:30 |
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| dhellmann | I think that's settled then | 14:31 |
| dhellmann | #topic planning final release tasks | 14:31 |
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| EmilienM | so can we have an RC3 next week? https://goo.gl/At2xKh | 14:31 |
| dhellmann | #undo | 14:31 |
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| dhellmann | EmilienM : yes | 14:31 |
| EmilienM | I'm sure dhellmann can't resist to this picture. | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | #info trailing projects can have additional release candidates between now and their final deadline | 14:32 |
| dims | LOL nice one EmilienM | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | aw | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | now I'll get a reputation for being bribable with kitten pictures ;-) | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | #topic planning final release tasks | 14:32 |
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| ttx | that was already public knowledge | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | heh | 14:33 |
| dims | :) | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | I have a list of the tasks I think we need to do next week outlined in the R+0 task section of the etherpad | 14:33 |
| * ttx looks | 14:33 | |
| dhellmann | I plan to line up the release patch on wednesday so it is ready to go early thursday | 14:33 |
| ttx | dhellmann: let me ask about the PR timing | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ok | 14:34 |
| ttx | dhellmann: any preferred time ? | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | ttx: well, I won't be in europe this time, so probably close to something like what they wanted last time | 14:35 |
| ttx | traditionally 10am CT I think | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | I have 14:00 UTC, which I think was 9 or 10 CT | 14:35 |
| ttx | yeah, we can start at 14:00 so that it's done at 15:00UTC | 14:35 |
| fungi | that's 9am cdt, yes | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | but that was just a guess anyway | 14:35 |
| ttx | not a big deal since people schedule their articles to go off at 00:01 anyway | 14:36 |
| ttx | "it's out"-- no it's not | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | time is hard | 14:36 |
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| sigmavirus | heh | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | I also have a draft of the announcement linked there, and I'd appreciate any feedback on the wording | 14:37 |
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| dhellmann | it's copied from last time, with the additional piece of information that there are almost 200 components this cycle (thanks to EmilienM and his list of puppet modules) | 14:37 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I'll let you know when they tell me | 14:37 |
| ttx | but certainly 9/10am CT | 14:37 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: sounds good, thanks. and hour here or there isn't a big deal to me, since it's morning. | 14:37 |
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| ttx | no, as long as we are +-2h I think it's good enough | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | so, the gerrit acl changes -- are those for thursday or friday? | 14:38 |
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| ttx | It's for Thursday after we prcessed release I'd say | 14:39 |
| ttx | i.e. ASAP | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | same for the release name | 14:39 |
| dims | dhellmann : announcement looks good to me | 14:39 |
| ttx | not a big deal if we miss by a few hours | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | what I'm really worried about is whether we have all of the steps listed there, so if you think of something else we need to do please let me know | 14:39 |
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| dhellmann | dims : thanks | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | oh, and thanks fungi, clarkb, & pabelanger for agreeing to be on standby while we do the tagging, in case anything goes wrong | 14:40 |
| ttx | dhellmann: will do. I'd say that today I'm not feeling good enough for that kind of extra-lucidity | 14:40 |
| ttx | It /looks/ sane | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | ttx: it can wait until monday | 14:40 |
| ttx | let me add that task | 14:40 |
| fungi | happy to make sure all goes smoothly | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | I pulled these from our PROCESS.rst file, so I'm pretty comfortable with it, but more eyes are better | 14:40 |
| dims | :) | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | moving on | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | we talked about scheduling for the final release & announcement already | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | #topic random fail | 14:41 |
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| dhellmann | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-job-failures/2016-September/000183.html | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-job-failures/2016-September/000183.html | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | the tarball job there failed in an odd way | 14:42 |
| ttx | 200 ? wow | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | #link http://logs.openstack.org/c0/c0010b425247fa75a0c69c9201629d8ad8c635c3/release/pyeclib-tarball-signing/25c1ff3/console.html | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | ttx: "ls deliverables/newton | wc -l" | 14:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: should we say "deliverables" instead of "components" ? | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | probably | 14:42 |
| ttx | also should remove the trailing from the count | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | oh, that's a good point | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | I'll figure out the right number | 14:43 |
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| dhellmann | sorry, EmilienM :-( | 14:44 |
| dhellmann | so on this failure, have we seen this before for pyeclib? or anything else? | 14:44 |
| ttx | dhellmann: maybe say "for the x services and y other components that make up the release" or something like this | 14:45 |
| dhellmann | ttx: sure | 14:45 |
| ttx | I fear a crazy number will just reinforce the "Big Tent is insane!11!" hate | 14:45 |
| sigmavirus | dhellmann: pyeclib doesn't have setup.cfg? | 14:45 |
| ttx | it's not that many services | 14:45 |
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| ttx | it's just plenty of libs and packages | 14:45 |
| sigmavirus | it's not using pbr dhellmann | 14:45 |
| dhellmann | sigmavirus : good eyes | 14:45 |
| ttx | (31 services) | 14:46 |
| ttx | so 31 services and ~130 other components | 14:46 |
| * dhellmann wonders if pyeclib is an official project | 14:46 | |
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| sigmavirus | dhellmann: do all official projects need to use pbr? | 14:47 |
| dhellmann | it's not on the swift team list | 14:47 |
| sigmavirus | It has C extensions in-tree | 14:47 |
| dhellmann | sigmavirus : we expect python projects to follow the conventions supported by the release and infra teams | 14:47 |
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| sigmavirus | I know pbr can handle those but I don't think there's sufficient prior art for something that seems to have not been developed in openstack from the start to have been comfortable using it | 14:47 |
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| sigmavirus | dhellmann: makes sense | 14:47 |
| ttx | I propsoed alternate wording on the etherpad | 14:47 |
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| sigmavirus | dhellmann: just looks like it started outside openstack and is now maintained here | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | ttx: looks good | 14:48 |
| sigmavirus | maybe hasn't been updated | 14:48 |
| fungi | pyeclib was adopted from elsewhere, yeag | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | sigmavirus : that's quite possible | 14:48 |
| fungi | yeah | 14:48 |
| anteaya | its only mention is here as a deb repo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/projects.yaml#n4915 | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | ok, so the fix is for them to update their packaging metadata and then tag another release, I guess? | 14:48 |
| ttx | dhellmann: not in governance | 14:48 |
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| ttx | (pyeclib) | 14:49 |
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| dhellmann | or to manage publishing their own releases if they don't want to do that, I suppose | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | since, as ttx points out, it's not a governed project I'm not too concerned about it, until/unless they ask for help | 14:49 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: so we should not sign it | 14:49 |
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| ttx | (imho) | 14:50 |
| ttx | but yes, not top issue | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | sign the tag? or sign the tarball? | 14:50 |
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| sigmavirus | dhellmann: both? | 14:50 |
| sigmavirus | i suspect they'll sign their own tag | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | fungi : thoughts? ^^ | 14:50 |
| fungi | they made a release request? | 14:51 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I don't have a problem skipping the tag signing, but I think we should probably sign the artifact | 14:51 |
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| dhellmann | no, we get notified of failures regardless of whether they go through the releases repo | 14:51 |
| sigmavirus | aha | 14:51 |
| fungi | oh, got it | 14:51 |
| ttx | fungi: no | 14:51 |
| fungi | yeah, i'll see if i can track one of its maintainers down to either fix their packaging or remove the release jobs | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | fungi : thanks | 14:53 |
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| fungi | just be aware that having a mailsink for a given pipeline means that there are always going to be unofficial projects with broken jobs reporting to it | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | fungi : yeah, that's not a problem. | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | I don't mind helping them out, if they want it. I was more concerned that the failure looked odd | 14:54 |
| ttx | yeah, just raised it because it's the only fail that actually prevented an upload | 14:54 |
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| dhellmann | right | 14:54 |
| ttx | all the others are wheel SKIPs | 14:54 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, those are bothersome because they're so frequent, but they don't seem to actually break anything | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 14:55 |
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| rosmaita | two quick items from me about glance | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | that's it for the formal agenda, does anyone have anything else to raise this week? | 14:55 |
| dhellmann | hi, rosmaita | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | first, i would like to introduce sigmavirus (Ian Cordasco) as the glance "release czar" (basically ttx's "release steward" with a more authoritative-sounding title) | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | i'm really happy that ian has agreed to be glance release czar, because he will most likely prevent me from making the kind of mistake in ocata that i am about to ask you about | 14:55 |
| rosmaita | second item | 14:55 |
| ttx | Release ADmiral | 14:55 |
| sigmavirus | "RAD"? | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | :) | 14:56 |
| * dhellmann pictures sigmavirus with epaulets | 14:56 | |
| rosmaita | just not "rear admiral" | 14:56 |
| ttx | The RAD. | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | question about whether docs are "critical" ... here is some quick background (i will type fast) | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | as you know, the api-ref was moved out of docs and into the source code tree for each project this cycle | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | the api-ref on openstack.org is published from master | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | so for glance, i planned to make sure all revisions for newton were merged into master before 6 Oct ... but did not make it a priority for RC time | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | thus we have an inaccurate api-ref in the stable/newton source tree | 14:56 |
| rosmaita | and you can see where i am going with this ... should we backport the revisions in master into stable/newton? this would mean RC3 for us, and a PITA for y'all | 14:57 |
| rosmaita | what is your opinion? (a) backport and new RC? or, (b) not critical, leave stable/newton alone (we don't seem to have any new translations, so unless someone discovers a bad bug over the weekend, the docs update would be the only thing in RC3) | 14:57 |
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| dhellmann | if the guide is always published from master, it seems like you can backport the changes and let them be part of a point release | 14:57 |
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| sigmavirus | dhellmann: yeah that's what I was trending towards and hoping the other glance-stable-maintainers would agree | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | unless we know someone else is using the stable branch to ship docs? | 14:58 |
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| rosmaita | i would hope not | 14:58 |
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| rosmaita | the api-ref is new in-tree, so hopefully no one is looking for it yet | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | let's be cautious this time, and if it causes problems they'll be fixed by that point release | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | just to make sure i understand, the idea is leave RC2 as-is, and update stable/newton post-release to 13.0.1 or something | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | so, no new rc just for api doc changes | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | that's right | 14:59 |
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| rosmaita | ok, cool | 14:59 |
| rosmaita | ty! | 14:59 |
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| dhellmann | rosmaita : would you mind brining this up on the ML so we spread the word about the plan? | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | sure | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | rosmaita : thanks | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | sigmavirus had already suggested that | 15:00 |
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| dhellmann | ok, our time is up here, so we can move to #openstack-release if we have more to discuss | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | cool | 15:00 |
| rosmaita | he's already earning czar-level pay | 15:00 |
| ttx | dhellmann: thx! | 15:00 |
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| dhellmann | heh | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus | rosmaita: uh, no | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | thanks everyone! | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus | lol | 15:00 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Sep 30 15:00:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-09-30-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-09-30-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-09-30-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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