Thursday, 2016-06-23

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thinrichsHi all.  Time for Congress00:01
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aimeeuHello!00:01
thinrichs#startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting00:01
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ekcshi00:01
aimeeuHi again00:01
ramineni_hi00:02
thinrichsekcs, aimeeu: hi!00:02
thinrichsramineni_: hi00:02
thinrichsmasahito is I think out of town still00:02
thinrichsAgenda for the week…00:02
thinrichs1. Gate00:02
thinrichs2. Low-hanging bugs for newcomers00:02
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thinrichs3. Status updates00:03
thinrichsAnything else?00:03
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thinrichs#topic Gate00:04
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thinrichsramineni_: how is the gate looking?00:04
ramineni_thinrichs: right now, it looks green, series of patches merged in tempest , causing our gate to fail00:05
ramineni_thinrichs: fixed the same in both master and stable/mitaka00:05
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thinrichsramineni_: Nice!00:06
thinrichsThat's an easy agenda item them00:06
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thinrichsMoving on, unless there's anything to discuss about the HA tests, which are the ones that have been broken of late.00:07
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thinrichs#topic Low-hanging bugs00:08
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ramineni_thinrichs: no, HA tests failing because we are using endpoints_client and service client which got changed in tempets00:08
ramineni_thinrichs: otherwise they are fine00:09
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thinrichsramineni_: makes sense00:09
thinrichsaimeeu is a new contributor (if you remember from last week) and is looking for a couple of bugs to start with00:10
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aimeeuI did come across another one that was abandoned a year ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/141519900:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1415199 in congress "Refactor test_neutron_driver" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Cleber Rosa (cleber-gnu)00:10
thinrichsWe used to have bugs in launchpad marked with 'low-hanging-fruit'.00:11
aimeeuOnly 2 marked that way00:11
thinrichsDo we have bugs aimeeu might be able to work on that we haven't registered in launchpad.00:11
ekcsHere is a simple one assigned to me but I haven’t done it. #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/150157900:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1501579 in congress "Calling plexxi_driver.execute(...) throws exception" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Eric K (ekcs)00:12
thinrichsaimeeu: The tests are in a state of flux because we basically rewrote them all for a new architecture we're almost finished implementing.00:12
thinrichsSo we should probably abandon the bug you mentioned above.00:13
aimeeuOK00:13
thinrichsThe new tests could require that kind of work too, but we would need to look.00:13
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thinrichsekcs: thanks.00:14
thinrichsaimeeu: you could work on the one ekcs is pointing out.  Seems like there's just a method to add.00:14
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aimeeuGot it - just reassigned it to myself00:14
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thinrichsDoes anyone else have bugs they're not actively working on?  Especially if they're good starters, let's unassign ourselves.00:15
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thinrichsCan we all take an action item to look for 1-2 low-hanging bugs?  Then aimeeu can have a few to choose from, and we make it easier for others to jump in and help out.00:16
ramineni_thinrichs: ok00:16
aimeeuthinrichs: thanks!00:16
ekcsgot it.00:17
thinrichs#action Everyone will try to file a couple low-hanging bugs for starting points for newcomers00:17
thinrichs#topic status updates00:17
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thinrichsekcs: how is the HA discussion going?00:18
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ekcsI haven’t done much this past week cuz I got pulled into something urgent at work. But I think we’re all in fairly good agreement on the spec. Andrew from redhat also gave some comments. I’ll touch things up in the next couple days (a few clarifications requested and fill in a few TODO sections) then I think it’s ready to merge.00:19
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thinrichsekcs: That was my reading too—that we're done with design and need to move on to implementation00:20
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ekcsthe other thing I’m working on is looking for threading issues with the switch to new-arch. A lot of things that used to be safe because there was no blocking are now suspect because rpc.cast/call blocks and yields.00:21
thinrichsekcs: Totally important00:21
ekcsand i’m done with the urgent project so I should be able to get more done in the coming week.00:21
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thinrichsI could see a number of bugs coming out of that analysis, and they could easily be super-hard to write tests for.00:23
thinrichsramineni_: want to discuss your status?00:23
ramineni_thinrichs: sure00:24
ramineni_last week worked on supporting keystone v3 and use of sessions for all the datasources and also made the default auth_url as v3 for creating datasources in devstack plugin00:24
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ramineni_still some datasouces are throwing errors, i have to look at it00:25
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thinrichsDo all the services support v3?00:25
ramineni_yes00:25
thinrichsDo we?00:25
ramineni_yes , creating the client with v3 shouldnt throw any error, ill check agai00:26
thinrichsJust wanted to check00:27
ramineni_thats it from my side00:27
thinrichsOk.  I'll go.00:27
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thinrichsI've been underwater for weeks now.00:28
thinrichsI've been struggling just to keep up with reviews.00:28
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thinrichsBut I'm hoping to have more time again.00:28
thinrichsI was planning on testing out a multi-process deployment00:29
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thinrichsand maybe add docs around how to do that00:29
thinrichsOr are there other things we think are more pressing before we begin the HA work?00:31
ekcsthat sounds right.00:31
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thinrichsOkay.  That's my plan then.00:32
thinrichs#topic open discussion00:32
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ramineni_thinrichs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329772/00:32
patchbotramineni_: patch 329772 - congress - Fix listing of datasources00:32
thinrichsAnything else we should discuss today?00:32
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ramineni_thinrichs: im thinking should we delete the datasource when we fail to load driver happens00:33
ramineni_?00:33
thinrichsSo actually remove it from the database?00:34
ramineni_thinrichs: yes00:34
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thinrichs(ekcs: here's the problem ramineni_ is working on.  User creates datasource with driver D.  Then removes D from etc/congress/congress.conf and restarts congress.  Today there's a fatal error b/c Congress can't reinstantiate the datasource b/c D is unavailabe.)00:35
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thinrichsThe question is what do we do in that case?00:35
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ekcsthanks. just read up on it.00:36
thinrichsI'm looking to see what happens if there's a policy referencing that datasource…00:36
thinrichsDoes Congress let you delete such a datasource or does it block it?  I think it blocks it.00:36
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ramineni_thinrichs: it doesnt create policy00:37
ramineni_thinrichs: it fails here https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/harness.py#L39400:37
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ramineni_but we silently , log the exception and continue00:38
ramineni_so, after that if we list the datasources, it throws internal server error00:38
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thinrichsWhat's the behavior we think is right…00:38
thinrichsthere's a datasource in the DB but the driver for that DB is not available00:39
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thinrichsI typically think that deleting something out of the DB is dangerous when the user didn't ask us to do it.00:39
ekcsYea I’m with thinrichs on that. if someone dropped in a new config by mistake, that shouldn’d delete DS and especially not policies.00:40
thinrichsSo let's imagine we leave the DS in the DB.00:40
ramineni_ekcs: policies are not created for that datasource00:40
thinrichsWhat problems does that cause?00:41
ekcsWe could prompt the user to ok the deletion. options: 1. delete the DS and continue 2. fail and you fix the config before relaunching.00:41
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thinrichsWhat if it's a script that's starting up Congress?00:42
thinrichsInteractive stuff seems scary00:42
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ramineni_so, we should mark as disabled00:42
ramineni_and leave it in DB00:43
ekcsanyway this should be a rare situation and i think the easiest thing is to document and let the user resolve it by fixing config or fixing DB. problem is it’s hard to fix DB without congress. so maybe we have a separate congress switch that says clean the DB based on config.00:43
ramineni_?00:43
ekcsi feel like disabling adds to much complexity for something that doesn’t happen much anyway. cuz every other part of the system may need to account for that case.00:43
ramineni_ekcs: ya, i agree00:44
thinrichs+1 to it being a rare situation00:45
ekcsmy vote would be for: congress just fails with good error message. in doc direct user to either add the config back or launch congress with a new switch (with warning) to launch and delete DS.00:45
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ramineni_ekcs: you experienced this issue without changing config?00:45
thinrichsAnd we probably shouldn't be doing anything substantial right now00:45
ekcsramineni_: no. did I suggest that?00:46
ramineni_ekcs: you have raised the bug right00:46
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ekcsramineni_: no. This is first time i heard of it.00:46
ekcsok wait.00:46
ramineni_https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/156415200:46
openstackLaunchpad bug 1564152 in congress "When 1 driver fails to load, all drivers fail to list (Error 500)" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Anusha (anusha-iiitm)00:46
ekcsI did raise the bug.00:47
ramineni_may be you have experienced in totally different scenario?00:47
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ekcsbut yea different scenario. like if there is bug in a driver and that driver has failure, then listing all drivers fail and don’t give any info.00:48
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ekcsimagine someone added a new thirdparty driver. and lists drivers. idealy he should see the third party driver failing and others working in the list. user gets no info from list or from horizon.00:49
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ekcsthis is helpful especially if someone is developing their custom driver.00:50
thinrichsekcs: +1 to your suggestion about missing driver00:50
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ramineni_ekcs: but if error, it doesnt let you create datasource right00:50
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thinrichsekcs: fixing that bug of yours will take some work00:52
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ekcshmm I didn’t document it super clearly. I forget what error I introduced. but it’s something like this. list_drivers() calls each individually configured driver for info(). If some of those info() methods fail, the whole list_drivers() fail. Ideally list_drivers() still gets the info on other drivers.00:53
thinrichsekcs: is the obvious fix (adding a try/except around the info()) a good first approx?00:54
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thinrichsThat could be something for aimeeu00:54
ekcsthat way when you look on horizon for instance, the page will list drivers and show ‘last error’ on each of the drivers. right now the page just doesn’t load. or shows 500.00:54
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ekcsyea that’s basically what I had in mind.00:54
aimeeuI thought of the try/catch - I can take a look if you like00:54
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ekcsbut I should document better how to reproduce.00:54
thinrichsekcs: maybe in addition to a few more lines about how to reproduce, you could add the low-hanging tag so aimeeu can easily find it00:55
ekcsok00:55
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thinrichs5 minutes left.  Anything else for today?00:55
ekcsramineni_: still a good thought on what to do when driver removed from config tho.00:56
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ekcsramineni_: i think the delete drivers patch is a good thing to have (triggered by special switch)00:56
ramineni_ekcs: hmm00:57
ekcsnothing else from me.00:57
ramineni_ekcs: or fail it, as they have messed up with config ?00:57
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ekcsyea fail should be default behavior00:57
thinrichsramineni_: so I think the proposal is: (i) congress fails to start if it has DS without a driver and (ii) add a switch to congress server that causes it to delete all DSs without drivers00:58
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thinrichsekcs: is that right?00:58
ekcsyea00:58
ekcsbut again maybe not even that important to add (ii) right now00:58
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thinrichsOut of time for today.  We can continue on #congress if need be.01:00
thinrichs#endmeeting01:00
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oomichi#startmeeting qa17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 23 17:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oomichi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'qa'17:00
oomichihi who join today ?17:00
mtreinisho/17:01
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rfolcoo/17:01
oomichiandreaf: ?17:01
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andreafo/17:01
hogepodgeo/17:02
oomichiok, lets get start17:02
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oomichi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_June_23th_2016_.281700_UTC.2917:02
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oomichi^^^ today agenda17:02
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oomichi#topic Specs Reviews17:03
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oomichi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z17:03
oomichiThere are just 4 specs, and I am working for the first one17:03
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oomichiand will update it soon based on masayukig's comment17:03
oomichiwhat status on the 2nd one, mtreinish?17:04
oomichiPolicy testing apis17:04
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mtreinishoomichi: what about it? we're holding off on it until the interfaces it depends on are stable right?17:04
oomichimtreinish: was it difficult to catch ryan?17:04
oomichimtreinish: you said you will catch him to make it forward on the previous meeting17:05
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mtreinishoomichi: I haven't had a chance to talk to him about any details17:06
oomichimtreinish: oh, I see.17:06
oomichithe 3rd one is defcore thing17:06
oomichihogepodge: maybe you have something want to talk here?17:07
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hogepodgeThat one is partially replace with one in defcore https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317531/17:07
hogepodgeOn the test spec side of things17:07
hogepodgeI'm not sure if there's value in tagging tests that defcore has identified. What do you all think?17:07
oomichi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/317531/17:07
hogepodgeIf it's not something desireable, I can abandon the spec.17:08
mtreinishhogepodge: I still think there is value in tagging things like 'single-user', etc17:08
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mtreinishbut just a tag 'in-defcore' I don't think adds much17:08
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mtreinishespecially with ostestr and tempest run (well soon) having support for whitelist files17:08
oomichiit will be useful when we take care of renaming or changing tempest tests17:08
hogepodgemtreinish: ok, I'll rework the spec17:09
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oomichiok, can we move on?17:09
hogepodgeyes17:09
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oomichior anyone have more topics related to specs?17:10
oomichi#topic Tempest17:10
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oomichimany projects still are using tempest code without tmepest.lib. and we are working for implemting tempest.lib more17:10
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oomichithe image client will be finished soon, and will release a new tag of tempest for new tempest.lib17:11
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oomichiafter implementing image client17:11
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oomichithe other open patches are https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open17:12
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oomichimtreinish: does tempest have still problems on py317:12
oomichi?17:12
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mtreinishoomichi: it does, we run unit tests on py3, but most of tempest is self verifying and we have no py3 coverage there17:13
mtreinishoomichi: it's been >1 year since I tried to do a full tempest run on py3, but I did a quick scan this morning and there are still a number of issues17:13
oomichimtreinish: oh, OK. there are several patches related to py3 as open reviews17:14
oomichihow about running tmepest on py3 after that?17:14
mtreinishoomichi: sure, but until we have a tempest job that runs using py3 we have no verification of anything17:15
mtreinishoomichi: I'd like it if someone (not me :) ) set up an experimental job that ran tempest on py317:15
oomichimtreinish: I heard ubuntu16.04 puts py3 as the default17:16
oomichiI'd like to try it :)17:16
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oomichi#action oomichi sets up an experimental job that ran tempest on py317:16
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mtreinishoomichi: yeah, 16.04 only install py35 by default17:17
oomichiandreaf: you have many patches related to manager thing. is the progress good now?17:17
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andreafoomichi: yes I'm working on the interface for plugins to register their own service clients17:18
oomichimtreinish: oh py35, not py34. that is a little big challenge for me17:18
andreafoomichi: there are still a few patches to be done, I'm trying to do it in baby-steps17:19
andreafoomichi: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/client-manager-refactor17:19
andreafoomichi: one thing I wanted to ask people about that17:19
mtreinishoomichi: there's very little difference between 3.4 and 3.5. I've been using 3.5 for py3 testing locally since arch upgraded a while ago17:19
oomichiandreaf: what is that?17:20
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oomichimtreinish: thanks, that is a good info17:20
andreafwell, I feel there is no need to the service_client (the current manager object) to cache service client from plugins17:20
andreafoomichi: it creates more complications because we need to specify the name of the attribute17:21
andreafoomichi: so the way I'm implementing it is that a plugin register its classes under a name and then in tests it can do something like17:21
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oomichiandreaf: does that mean users of tempest plugin don't need to consider/import service clients at all, right?17:22
andreafself.my_api_client = service_client.my_service_name.MyApiClient1()17:22
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andreafoomichi: plugin initialise the service_client and there they get access to core service clients if they need them17:23
oomichiandreaf: yeah, the above code is easy to understand for me :)17:23
andreafoomichi: or they get access to their own clients, but not as attribute, instead by class names17:23
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andreafoomichi: that also solves the problem of name conflicts between plugins17:24
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oomichiandreaf: cool, nice steps17:24
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oomichido we have more topics about tempest here?17:25
andreafoomichi: thanks - anyone else has an opinion against else I will move forward with that17:25
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mtreinishoomichi: there are some tempest run things to review17:25
mtreinish#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/tempest-run-cmd17:25
oomichimtreinish: one is already approved17:26
oomichiand the second needs just +A17:26
oomichimtreinish: the other are conflict17:26
mtreinishugh, I need to rebase again...17:26
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oomichimtreinish: heh, yeah. that also nice progress17:27
oomichimtreinish: will you need more patches after that?17:27
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mtreinishoomichi: probably, the last one is still a WIP so I need to finish that still. There is also some other stuff from the spec I still have to do IIRC17:28
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oomichimtreinish: ok, can we use the command on the gate as the default? or still need these patches for that?17:30
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mtreinishoomichi: that's part of what still needs to be done, I have a patch that forces it poorly to test: https://review.openstack.org/32729117:30
oomichimtreinish: oh, cool !17:31
oomichi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/32729117:32
mtreinisheverything passes with it now17:32
oomichido we have more about tempest?17:33
mtreinishoomichi: https://review.openstack.org/33307417:33
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mtreinishbut that's just for you to +A17:33
oomichimtreinish: yeah, I know. I didn't have enough time to review that, will check it later17:33
hogepodgeoomichi: yes17:34
oomichihogepodge: thanks, go ahead17:34
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hogepodgeoomichi: after the meeting, can you help me get started on the negative testing guidelines?17:34
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oomichihogepodge: oh, I am happy to help that17:34
oomichihogepodge: thanks for reminding that17:35
hogepodgeoomichi: thanks17:35
oomichi#action oomichi reviews https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333074/17:35
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oomichi#action oomichi works together for the negative testing guidelines17:35
oomichi#action oomichi works together for the negative testing guidelines with hogepodge17:35
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oomichianything else?17:36
mtreinishoomichi: there is an #undo17:36
mtreinishiirc17:36
oomichi#undo #action oomichi works together for the negative testing guidelines17:36
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oomichimtreinish: cool, that works17:36
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mtreinishoomichi: well it might have removed the one without hogepodge since that was the last event17:37
mtreinishbut, we'll see in the minutes17:37
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oomichimtreinish: yeah, I will check the minute17:37
oomichi#topic Devstack and Grenade17:38
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oomichido we have topics related to devstack&grenade this week?17:38
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oomichimaybe not, so lets move on17:39
oomichi#topic openstack-health17:39
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oomichihow about openstack-health ?17:39
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oomichi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open17:40
mtreinishI don't have any updates this week on either17:40
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oomichisc68cal and masayukig are very active now on o-h17:40
sc68cal:)17:41
oomichiok, lets move on17:41
oomichi#topic critical review17:41
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oomichido we have critical reviews now17:41
oomichi?17:41
andreafoomichi: nothing from my side that wasn't mentioned already17:42
oomichiI will review a patch mtreinish pointed before17:42
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oomichiandreaf: yeah, that already is in my list17:42
mtreinishoomichi: yeah just:17:42
mtreinish#link https://review.openstack.org/33307417:42
mtreinishbut that's the same one from the tempest topic17:42
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oomichimtreinish: yeah, that is my action on the minute17:43
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oomichido we have more?17:43
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oomichiok, lets move on17:44
oomichi#topic open discussion17:44
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oomichione topic is just reminder17:44
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oomichiwe have qa/infra code sprint Sep 19th-21th in Germany17:45
oomichi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Sprints/QAInfraNewtonSprint17:45
oomichiplease register on the above wiki if you are interested17:46
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oomichithat is all from my side17:46
hogepodgeIf anyone has interest in attending the DefCore mid cycle, it will be in San Antonio the week of August 117:46
andreaftempest.tests.cmd.test_run.TestRunReturnCode.test_tempest_run_passes broke again running unit tests on macosx - but I'm not sure why, tempest run returns 1 rc17:46
oomichihogepodge: cool,17:47
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oomichihogepodge: is that already public on ml?17:47
oomichihogepodge: or any wiki?17:47
hogepodgeoomichi: no, markvoelker and VanL are arranging the details and will post once they've firmed them up17:48
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oomichihogepodge: I see, thanks for the notification in advance before that17:48
hogepodgeAlso, a version of this (amongst other things) will go go the board next week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333067/17:48
hogepodgeAny feedback or changes are welcome17:49
oomichiandreaf: are you running tempest on macos?17:49
hogepodge#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333067/17:49
andreafoomichi: tempest unit tests17:49
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oomichihogepodge: ah, that is interesting for me. thanks again :)17:50
oomichiandreaf: oh, ok. that's also interesting17:50
andreafa remoteclient test used to fail, I fixed it, it was green, but the new tempest run test is not passing, I guess tempest run may not work on mac17:50
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oomichiandreaf: I am (not?) sure we can run unit tests on macos on the gate17:51
andreafoomichi: heh no, I don't think so17:51
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oomichiandreaf: yeah, just kidding17:51
andreafoomichi: I'll just keep going back and fixing them when it makes sense17:52
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andreaf:D17:52
oomichiare there more topics?17:53
oomichior close the meeting early today17:53
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oomichi3...17:53
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oomichiok, thanks all17:54
oomichi#endmeeting17:54
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oomichiah, the unexpected action is removed on "undo"17:55
oomichifrom the log17:55
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dtroyercourtesy ping for OSC meeting: dhellmann, stevemar, terrylhowe, dstanek, MeganR, rtheis, DuncanT, sheel, jgregor, baumann19:01
dtroyer#startmeeting openstackclient19:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 23 19:01:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient'19:01
rtheis_hi19:01
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dtroyerrtheis_: do you want to be added to that list?  I'm updating it now...19:02
rtheis_sorry, which list?19:03
dtroyerthe reminder ping list19:03
dtroyerthat I hadn't been using for a while19:03
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rtheis_sure, that's fine19:03
dtroyerIts generally self-selected in the wiki page:https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackClient#Regular_attendees19:04
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dtroyerwell, this may be quick anyway…19:05
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dtroyer#topic releases19:05
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dtroyerfor osc-lib, I think it is time to do 0.2.019:06
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rtheis_sounds good to me, I just need to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333481/19:06
dtroyerI have one more thing to add yet that will move forward the OSC work for ksa/occ/osc rationalization19:06
dtroyer#link https://review.openstack.org/33348119:06
dtroyeryes19:06
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dtroyerfor OSC, I'm not sure we will get 3.0 out before the end of June19:07
stevemaro/19:08
stevemarend of june!19:08
stevemarnice19:08
dtroyerI've been pretty heads-down on the above, I think the biggest other thing is tangchen's IP commands19:08
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rtheis_I think those are getting close19:08
dtroyergood, I need to refresh on them today19:08
stevemardtroyer: we told henrynash we would switch up the list role stuff today too19:09
stevemarerrr s/today//19:09
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dtroyerright, and I have spent even less time on that yet19:09
dtroyerhave you guys looked at it?19:09
rtheis_I haven't19:10
rtheis_do you have a link?19:10
stevemarrtheis_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/283554/19:11
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rtheis_thanks19:12
stevemari also think it'll be nice to have bug 1592906 fixed before 3.0.0 (not a deal breaker though) https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bug/159290619:12
openstackbug 1592906 in python-openstackclient "ensure all delete commands can take multiple objects" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592906 - Assigned to aohuanxuan (huanxuan-ao)19:12
dtroyeris https://review.openstack.org/311460 part of it too?19:12
stevemardtroyer: yes, thats the other half19:13
dtroyerso I think those are the three areas holding up 3.019:14
stevemari wouldn't consider the bulk delete to be a blocker19:15
dtroyerI'm not19:15
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dtroyerrole list, ip commands, auth are the three19:16
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stevemarah19:16
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dtroyeralso, I'm going to be off for a few days either side of the 4th weekend so there's that too19:16
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dtroyermeaning next week's meeting needs a host19:16
stevemardtroyer: release just before you go19:17
dtroyer:)19:17
* stevemar volunteers rtheis_ to run it19:17
rtheis_:)19:17
rtheis_I can run it19:17
dtroyerat the rate we're going, it'll be you two19:17
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dtroyer#topic reviews19:18
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dtroyerare there other reviews we should talk about?19:18
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rtheis_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319518/19:19
dtroyerwow, I hadn't looked at the 'needs final +2' list in a few days…19:19
rtheis_sorry, wrong one19:19
stevemarhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/330742/ needs a final boot19:19
stevemarand https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331843/19:19
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rtheis_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/319522/19:20
rtheis_would like dtroyer opinion on command object19:20
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rtheis_we've looked at rbac, network rbac, and network rbac policy19:21
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dtroyerugh… I think what you have is least-bad of the options19:22
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dtroyerit has some qualification, seems like adding 'policy' just makes it longer?19:23
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rtheis_yeah, I agree19:23
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dtroyerstevemar: at a glance the two you listed should be Ok, I'll look after the meeting too19:25
stevemar(sorry, on a call)19:25
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dtroyerI'd like to point out https://review.openstack.org/331418 in os-client-config19:27
dtroyerit is related to the osc-lib work, but not dependant19:27
dtroyerthere may be one or two more like it needed to finish moving the auth plugin loading to purely o-c-c though due to timing of stuffs19:28
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rtheis_ok19:29
dtroyerI'm trying to layer the house of cards so we're not totally leaning on a single review chain19:29
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dtroyer#topic bugs19:30
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dtroyerother bugs to mention?19:30
rtheis_I don't have any19:30
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dtroyerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1595616 came up in -sdks this morning, looks like designateclient registered some globals that caused havoc19:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595616 in tripleo "Image building with --all is broken" [Critical,Triaged]19:31
dtroyerour part here is going to be to dociment, and possibly test for this19:31
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dtroyerbnemec is following up with designate folk19:32
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rtheis_ah yes, globals strike again19:32
rtheis_+1 to doc and test19:32
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dtroyer#topic open discussion19:35
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dtroyeranything else?19:35
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rtheis_nothing else from me19:35
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dtroyerok then, let's go get an early snack…19:36
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rtheis_sounds good19:36
dtroyerthanks guys!19:36
dtroyer#endmeeting19:36
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mriedem#startmeeting nova21:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jun 23 21:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
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mriedemi will assume everyone is here21:02
mriedem#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting21:02
mriedem#topic release news21:02
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mriedem#link Newton release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Newton_Release_Schedule21:02
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mriedem#info June 30: non-priority feature freeze (1 weeks from today)21:02
mriedemWe have 100 approved blueprints: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/newton - 18 are completed, 6 have not started, 2 are blocked21:02
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mriedemany questions on that?21:03
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mriedemi've been trying to focus reviews on non-priority bps the last two weeks21:03
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mriedemwe should have a big push to next thursday21:03
mriedem#topic bugs21:03
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mriedemthe gate is stable21:03
mriedemthird party ci, virtuozzo says they got their stuff working again21:04
mriedemthey need to get their storage ci using os-brick from g-r21:04
mriedemi haven't looked at the compute ci for vz21:04
mriedemvmware still seems behind21:04
mriedemtjones: are you around?21:05
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mriedemcritical bugs - i'm not aware of any21:05
tjonesyes21:05
tjonesyes it is21:05
mriedemtjones: ok21:05
tjonessorry21:05
tjonesworking on it (as always)21:06
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mriedem#topic stable branch status21:06
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mriedemno major issues in the gate or in mitaka that i know of21:06
mriedemliberty has a cve fix though,21:07
mriedemwhich requires oslo.concurrency 2.6.121:07
mriedemfor mitaka we raised the minimum required oslo.concurrency to make that work by default in the requirements,21:07
mriedemwith liberty it's not very nice https://review.openstack.org/#/c/333403/21:07
* tonyb was just reading that review21:07
mriedembecause essentially it means the new minimum for oslo.concurrency in liberty would be the old max constraint21:08
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mriedemalong with a bunch of updated transitive deps21:08
mriedemwhich sucks21:08
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mriedemanyway, if you're interested in terrible things like that, read ^21:08
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mriedem#topic subteam highlights21:08
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mriedemi didn't make the cells meeting yesterday but alaski said basically cells v2 just needs reviews21:09
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mriedemwith the freeze coming next thursday, i'm mostly planning on getting back to priorities after next week21:09
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mriedemscheduler,21:09
mriedemedleafe: around?21:10
edleafeyes21:10
edleafeDiscussed yet another proposal for a shared-state scheduler that would allow for horizontal scaling without increased raciness21:10
edleafeWill try to have preformance numbers by the midcycle for that21:10
mriedemthat's rlrossit right?21:10
bauzasyup21:10
edleafeyep21:10
edleafeotherwise, same ol same ol21:10
bauzaswe said we shouldn't focus on the backend tho21:10
bauzastbc :)21:10
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edleafeit's just POC for now21:11
mriedemyeah21:11
edleafesee if it's even meaningful21:11
mriedemi have to sit with the guy every day so i've heard about it21:11
mriedemregarding the placement api21:11
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mriedemthere is the big long thread in the ML21:11
cdenton the placement api stuff: a) I'd like to apologize for being a dick b) sdague, mriedem and I came up with a short term plan that basically involves replacing routes with selector and seeing how it seems from there.21:11
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cdentIf people are keen on that plan, I'll make it go.21:12
mriedemreplacing selector with routes21:12
bauzasI missed 2) but okay21:12
edleafecdent: other way around?21:12
cdentedleafe: yes, sorry21:12
bauzaswas that discussed over IRC ?21:12
mriedemyes21:12
mriedemin -nova earlier today21:12
bauzask21:12
tonybokay that makes more sense21:12
mriedemi haven't gone into the series in huge detail, sdague has reviewed more of it than me,21:13
mriedembut i think we agreed that we didn't hate it :)21:13
tonybcdent: care to abandone the requirements review when you have time?21:13
bauzasjust tbc, replacing selector in the WIP patch ?21:13
mriedembauzas: yeah21:13
cdenttonyb: ya, will do now21:13
bauzasbecause I read the contrary :)21:13
bauzasbut okay21:13
mriedemso i think we're looking for some incremental changes and then go from there21:13
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tonybcdent: danke kinda sir21:13
bauzasyou english guys drive left21:13
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bauzasso that's fine to me if we all agree :)21:14
mriedemcdent: are you going to be at the midcycle?21:14
cdentmriedem: yes, I'm staying in the US between now and then21:14
mriedemcdent: ok. hit a trump rally while you're here.21:14
mriedemmoving on21:14
mriedemlive migration, paul isn't here, but i attended21:14
edleafemriedem: so mean!21:15
cdenthit as in "take care of"?21:15
anteayacdent: attend21:15
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mriedemmdbooth pointed out that he suspects resize is busted in the libvirt storage refactor series21:15
mriedemdiana_clarke was going to work on a tempest test that verifies the size of disks before and after resize21:15
bauzasbusted, like doesn't work ?21:15
mriedemin case the api is lying21:15
mriedembauzas: yeah, doesn't actually resize21:15
mriedembut the api doesn't fail21:15
dansmithmriedem: that set is also broken for lvm21:16
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mriedemdansmith: ooo21:16
mriedemnews to me21:16
* alaski shows up late21:16
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bauzasfunny21:16
dansmithmriedem: well, actually, not sure if it's lvm or not, but one of the experimental tests shows a ton of traces in n-cpu.log21:16
mriedemmdbooth already posted a bug for resize being broken with ephemeral disks, as in trunk today21:16
dansmithat least one I sould say21:16
mriedemand diana said the series just needed more review21:16
dansmithrelated traces21:16
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dansmithyeah, well...21:17
mriedemi rechecked with 'flat' backend today too but didn't check results yet21:17
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dansmiththose seemed to be okay when I looked21:17
mriedemyeah, again, it's a priority series so it will live past next week21:17
dansmithnot too surprising though I think21:17
dansmithyep21:17
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mriedemoh, the other thing from that meeting21:17
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mriedemtdurakov had a change up to add the live migration job to nova's check queue, non-voting21:18
mriedemso we can get a better idea of how stable that is in the basic config21:18
mriedemthat merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/332175/21:18
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mriedemi think that's it for LM - some of the other bp changes needed tempest testing21:19
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mriedemapi21:19
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mriedemsdague: around?21:19
mriedemnope, ok i was at that one21:19
mriedemmostly, the api extension folding is happening21:19
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mriedemthe first one for disk-config is close to merged21:19
mriedemapi-ref cleanup is moving slowly - we talked about a sprint in early august21:20
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mriedemand alex_xu is working on the proxy api deprecations, which we agreed should land at the same time (same microverison for all of them)21:20
mriedemand the policy defaults in code series is moving21:21
mriedemi don't think there was an sriov/pci meeting this week21:21
mriedemnotifications: rlrossit?21:21
rlrossitwrap_exceptions got merged earlier this week21:21
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rlrossitinstance.delete notification is getting close and could use some eyes21:22
rlrossit#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313654/21:22
rlrossitthere have been a lot of follow-up patches to that one21:22
rlrossitbut we aren't looking to get those in this release21:22
rlrossitwe also have an o.vo patch that I think is good to go21:22
rlrossitwould be nice to get nova guys to take a look at that since it's related to this initiative21:23
rlrossit#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318950/21:23
rlrossitI think that's about it21:23
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mriedemgibi also reported some bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/159557521:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1595575 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The hash of a notification object does not depend on its SCHEMA" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Balazs Gibizer (balazs-gibizer)21:23
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rlrossitah, didn't see that21:23
rlrossitI worked to get that in, so I'll probably have to take a look at that21:24
mriedemok21:24
mriedemthanks21:24
mriedem#topic stuck reviews21:24
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mriedemthere was nothing on the agenda21:24
mriedem#topic open discussion21:25
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mriedemnothing on the agenda21:25
mriedemanyone have anything?21:25
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mriedemok, let's end it then21:25
mriedemthanks everyone21:25
mriedem#endmeeting21:25
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dougwigo21:59
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dougwigany drivers about today?21:59
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dougwigping amuller, kevinbenton, HenryG, amotoki22:00
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dougwig#startmeeting neutron_drivers22:00
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dougwigwelcome to neutron drivers, specs edition.22:01
dougwigarmax asked us to take a pass through the open specs, instead of RFEs, this week.22:01
HenryGhttps://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-specs+status:open ?22:02
dougwigso, without further ado, hopefully this isn't the first time we've seen them all, vote, or punt, or let's have whatever discussions we need to have:22:02
dougwigAdd flavor support to the L3 plugin22:02
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/105078/22:02
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dougwigkevinbenton: how this one going?22:03
kevinbentondougwig: going along. doing some groundwork for exception handling stuff for callbacks22:03
kevinbentondougwig: need to sync up with armax when he gets back to go over some interface stuff22:03
kevinbentondougwig: still a few weeks out22:04
dougwiganything contentious, or anything we can nudge along?22:04
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kevinbentonno, nothing that like22:04
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dougwigno worries, it just means your chair next week.22:04
dougwignext up, Diagnostics of Neutron components22:05
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/308973/22:05
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dougwigthis looks far from consensus.22:05
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dougwigjust judging from recent comment volume.22:06
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amotokiis amuller the right person to ask the status?22:07
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dougwigyes. though looking at it, i'm guessing we're not going to see any code in newton.22:07
dougwiglet's move to some smaller stuff.22:08
dougwigMinimum bandwidth support (egress)22:08
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/316082/22:08
dougwiglots of activity, but no drivers have commented yet.22:08
amotokiIn my understanding, API and general direction are agreed.  i think now they are discussing more technical details on ovs impl.22:09
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HenryGDoes it depend on a generic flow classifier (which may be its own BP/RFE)?22:10
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amotokiI don't think there is an depedency to generic FC.22:10
HenryGOK22:11
amotokias far as I reviewed a week ago.22:11
dougwigthese first few are high priorities for newton, so i expect they're more active.  later on, we get to some fun ones that seems to bypass our rfe process.22:12
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dougwigmoving on. Enhanced Network/Subnet DHCP Options22:12
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/247027/22:12
amotokiaga... i forgot to respond to sam22:12
dougwiglooks like amotoki has been active in this one.22:13
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dougwigAdded a note on OSC client coverage for new CLI features22:13
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/331592/22:13
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dougwigin openstack's continuing quest to constantly change interfaces, here we go.22:13
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amotokijust a note. in a neutronclient review, there is a discussion on whether we should have a feature in OSC itself or OSC plugin in neutronclient repo.22:15
dougwigas in, whether we implement new neutron commands in the osc repo, or via some plugin, or what?22:15
amotokithe dicsussion happens for vlan-aware-vm OSC support.22:16
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dougwigwhat's the current plan?22:16
amotokiarmando suggested to implement it as OSC plugin in neutronclient.22:16
HenryG+122:17
dougwigso, new commands will be osc only, then?22:17
amotokithe current general consensus seems that experimental features in neutron repo should go to neutornclient (OSC plugin)22:17
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amotokineutron CLI is optional.22:18
dougwigok.  amotoki, are you going to follow the spec above?  311592 ?22:19
amotokisure22:19
dougwigL2 extension ovs flow management22:19
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/320439/22:19
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dougwigthis one also has code in gerrit.22:21
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amotokithis one requires discussion as code. I am not sure we land it in newton.22:23
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amotokihow many efforts depend on this?22:23
dougwigit's an approved rfe, but i didn't see it targeted for newton.22:24
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dougwigalright, here's one that usually gets people arguing - (Operator-only) Logging API for security groups22:24
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509/22:24
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dougwigand it is targeted at n-222:24
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dougwigis this headed in the right direction, or do we need to give it some guidance?22:27
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kevinbentonI haven't had a chance to review this one for awhile22:28
kevinbentonNeed to see the latest state22:28
amotokilast time i checked (two weeks ago), it wasn't in a wrong direction.22:29
kevinbentonI think everyone was okay with the feature, the issue was decoupling the logging implementation from the API22:29
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dougwigalright.  maybe we'll breeze through the ones with lots of activity here.22:29
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dougwigSpec for distributed portbindings22:29
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/309416/22:29
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kevinbentonAlso need to review this22:30
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dougwigthis one is about binding a port to multiple hosts, for migration, though failover can't be far behind.22:30
kevinbentonWell also to make DVR less special22:30
dougwigwhich starts to look like loadbalancing, too.22:31
kevinbentonRight now it's special cased everywhere22:31
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dougwigi'm all for fewer snowflakes.22:31
carl_baldwinI also need to read this.  Was starting to review the code patches.22:31
dougwigok.22:31
johnsomIf this fixes the DVR FLIP bug I would be a happy camper22:31
dougwighere's one that i'm surprised is still kicking around:22:32
dougwigAdd timestamp to neutron extension resources22:32
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/223988/22:32
carl_baldwinjohnsom: Which bug?22:32
kevinbentonjohnsom: that refers to about 100 bugs, need to be more specific22:32
kevinbenton:)22:32
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dougwighaha22:32
johnsomAh, sorry, Floating IPs don't work with allowed address pairs ports when DVR is enabled22:32
kevinbentonAh, right22:32
dougwigtimestamp spec was last updated 7 weeks ago, has no +1's even.  anyone here want to champion it, or shall we abandon?22:32
kevinbentondougwig: I might look at it22:33
kevinbentondougwig: we already have timestamps on core resources22:33
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kevinbentondougwig: and timestamps likely already exist on the models for them22:33
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kevinbentondougwig: it's just a matter of API exposure I think22:33
dougwigid's and timestamps on every db object is one of those things that's a no-brainer to me, so i'm suprised it's been open so long.22:33
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kevinbentonI'll ping on the spec to see if submitter is still interested22:34
dougwigok22:34
dougwignext one came out of summit discussions, and was just revised.  LBaaS project spinout22:35
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/310805/22:35
kevinbentonjohnsom: I'm not sure if that will solve the floating ip bug btw22:35
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amotokiRe Lbaas spinout, I haven't caught up with the whole discussion. do we all agree to spinout?22:37
dougwigi don't think it was controversial.22:37
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kevinbentonYeah, it's okay with me.22:38
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dougwignext up, ipv6 fun.  Spec for IPv6 support in metadata service22:39
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/315604/22:39
amotokiit's okay to me too. one thing to note is about db migration. how can we migrate neutron migration to loadbalancer project?22:39
amotokii'lll leave a comment on the review.22:39
dougwigmetadata always goes to ipv4 today, i take it?22:39
dougwigamotoki: thanks22:39
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kevinbentonMetadata service needs to match whatever cloud init does22:39
kevinbentonIIRC cloud init doesn't request via ipv622:40
kevinbentonSo what does this accomplish?22:40
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johnsomkevinbenton yeah, I agree looking at it22:40
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dougwigit looks like they're trying to define an ipv6 mechanism, which then cloud-init or config drive would have to support, right?  does config drive even care about v4 vs v6?22:41
HenryGI think the thought is to support IPv6 only environments.22:41
kevinbentonConfig drive doesn't use metadata22:41
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kevinbentonBut cloud init would require a change22:41
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kevinbentonWhich we don't own22:41
kevinbentonSo this requires coordination with cloud init devs22:42
dougwigconfig drive is just another way to shove metadata in, though.  it obsoletes cloud-init magic URLs.22:42
carl_baldwinThis has come up a bunch of times before, right?22:42
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kevinbentonI know, but this is the metadata service we are talking about, not cloud init22:42
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amotokibut we need to sync cloud-init :)22:43
kevinbentonharlowja: I summon thee!22:43
* harlowja comes to life22:43
haleybi had a number of comments on this spec, mostly about basically creating a well-known IPv6 address that is used for metadata, that usually requires an rfc22:43
harlowjasoul please22:44
harlowjalol22:44
* dougwig can smell the heating tar.22:44
kevinbentonharlowja: we want cloud init changes22:44
harlowjasoul please?22:44
harlowjalol22:44
njohnstonIt's ALIVE!!22:44
harlowjasup22:44
kevinbentonIPv6 cloud init support22:44
harlowjak22:44
kevinbentonCAN IT BE DONE?22:44
harlowjashould work22:44
harlowjaalready did it, lol22:44
dougwigharlowja: see here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/315604/22:45
kevinbentonOh, you should comment on spec then22:45
dougwigwe were just discussing if it makes any sense / needs direction / whatnot.22:45
harlowjaah, u want it in the metadata service22:45
harlowjaso there is network_data.json that has this already22:45
dougwigthe spec does, i'm not sure we do.22:45
harlowjaor should have it22:45
kevinbentonYeah, right now cloud init does 169.254.169.25422:46
kevinbentonWe need a well know IPv6 only mechanism22:46
harlowjaoh that address22:46
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harlowjanot the configuration of the network that the VM gets22:46
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dougwigalright, we've stirred the pot on this one, let's take it to the spec.22:47
dougwignext up, Add Unicast Flooding Vteps to Provider Network22:47
dougwighttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/282180/22:47
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kevinbentonharlowja: thx22:47
* harlowja is already dust22:47
harlowjalol22:47
dougwigheh22:48
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dougwigthat vtep spec sounds like a similar use case to l2gw, doesn't it?22:48
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kevinbentondougwig: it's a little different22:49
kevinbentondougwig: right now  we just have inferred targets for VXLAN22:49
kevinbentondougwig: based on agent IP addresses, etc22:49
kevinbentondougwig: bringing them into binding makes it more explicit22:49
kevinbentonand easier interop between different devices22:49
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kevinbenton(e.g. a top of rack switch, a router, whatever)22:50
kevinbentonor even different vswitch types22:50
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dougwigkevinbenton: ok, want to take a crack at reviewing that spec later?22:51
kevinbentonyeah22:51
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kevinbentoni have already reviewed some of the patches22:51
dougwigok.22:52
kevinbentondidn't realize they actually did have a spec for it22:52
dougwigwe have 8 minutes to squeeze in some RFE's, unless anyone had any comments on any of the prior specs.22:52
dougwighttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.tag=rfe22:52
kevinbentonNo rfes! I'm drowning!22:52
carl_baldwin+122:53
carl_baldwin:)22:53
amotoki:)22:53
amotokiwe need to request BGP folks to revisit BGP related RFEs.22:53
dougwigheh, ok, we'll punt RFE's until next time.22:54
carl_baldwinamotoki: We did revisit those.22:54
dougwigplease use the extra six minutes, and more today/tomorrow, and give specs reviews some love.22:54
carl_baldwinI'm wondering why we're going through the list of Confirmed instead of Triaged.22:54
amotokicarl_baldwin: nice. thanks22:54
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carl_baldwinI moved most of the BGP specs to Confirmed to get them off the Triaged list.22:54
dougwigcarl_baldwin: i was stealing the link from last meeitng, and noticed it was the wrong list.22:54
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carl_baldwinBut, maybe I still don't understand our process.22:55
carl_baldwin:)22:55
amotokihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe22:55
dougwigthanks amotoki22:55
dougwigok, happy spec reviewing.22:55
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