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| skraynev | #startmeeting Heat | 07:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 07:00:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is skraynev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 07:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 07:00 |
| skraynev | #topic rollcall | 07:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 07:00 | |
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| KanagarajM | Hi | 07:01 |
| skraynev | shardy, therve | 07:01 |
| skraynev | ramishra | 07:01 |
| skraynev | ping | 07:01 |
| stevebaker | \o | 07:01 |
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| skraynev | yahoo :) hi stevebaker | 07:01 |
| skraynev | and that's all :( | 07:02 |
| ramishra | hi | 07:02 |
| tiantian | hi:) | 07:03 |
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| ochuprykov | hi | 07:04 |
| skraynev | hi guys. now it's better :) | 07:04 |
| pas-ha | O/ | 07:04 |
| skraynev | #topic Adding items to agenda | 07:04 |
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| skraynev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-03-16_0700_UTC.29 | 07:05 |
| skraynev | ok. if something will be raised, we can discuss it during Open Discussion | 07:06 |
| stevebaker | nice, short meeting | 07:06 |
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| skraynev | #topic Spec-lite review request | 07:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Spec-lite review request (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 07:06 | |
| skraynev | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1557764 | 07:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557764 in heat "Add configurable timeouts for SoftwareDeployment resources" [Undecided,New] | 07:07 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: IMO this spec-lite sounds good | 07:08 |
| stevebaker | that looks like a reasonable request | 07:08 |
| ramishra | +1, sounds reasonable to me too, atleast it helps during testing | 07:08 |
| skraynev | good. | 07:09 |
| skraynev | #topic Rc1 countdown | 07:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Rc1 countdown (Meeting topic: Heat)" | 07:09 | |
| skraynev | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/mitaka-rc1 | 07:10 |
| ramishra | skraynev: do we have priortiy review etherpad updated? Anything that we should focus on today? | 07:11 |
| ramishra | skraynev: or it's all done;) | 07:11 |
| skraynev | functional test for LB v2 was merged, so I wait todays evening (Wed) for proposing final rc1 | 07:11 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: I assume priority review is anything in rc1 | 07:11 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: ramishra: right | 07:11 |
| skraynev | especially with High status | 07:12 |
| skraynev | looks like 3 -5 may land during this day | 07:12 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: I just had one comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232124/31/heat_integrationtests/functional/test_os_wait_condition.py | 07:12 |
| skraynev | all other I plan to mark as mitaka stable-backport potential or rc potential | 07:13 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: yes. I have seen. I am working on resolving comments for previous patch and for this one. Hope to finish before my launch time ;) | 07:13 |
| stevebaker | skraynev: ok, we look to be in pretty good shape | 07:14 |
| skraynev | agree ;) | 07:15 |
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| prazumovsky | Hello! Sorry for late | 07:16 |
| ramishra | skraynev: what about this https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1554533 ? I don't see any response to shardy's comment yet. | 07:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1554533 in heat "Trustee sections should support auth_type option" [High,Confirmed] | 07:16 |
| skraynev | about tags: I asked ttx, to add them, so when they be ready for using, I will move bugs which are not landed today | 07:16 |
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| skraynev | ramishra: yes. I suppose, that it will be moved with some tag | 07:17 |
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| ramishra | ok | 07:17 |
| skraynev | ramishra: need further discussion | 07:17 |
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| skraynev | but it looks like we need to backport it when it be ready | 07:17 |
| skraynev | Probably I will ping Matt by mail and ask him to give more details | 07:18 |
| skraynev | #topic Open discussion | 07:18 |
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| KanagarajM | i tried to my nomination for ptl https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293274/ and kindly review it :) | 07:20 |
| skraynev | heh. It's penultimate meeting for me ;) | 07:20 |
| stevebaker | KanagarajM: yes, I just saw that, nice! | 07:20 |
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| KanagarajM | stevebaker, sure. thanks :) | 07:21 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: afaik, therve also planned to attend in nominations, hovewer I have not seen patch from him | 07:21 |
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| ramishra | so we'll have actual voting this time, that's good:) | 07:22 |
| skraynev | KanagarajM: ramishra: does anybody have link on "how to" happen elections ? | 07:23 |
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| skraynev | I forgot :) | 07:23 |
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| skraynev | we need to just +1 review or do something else ? | 07:23 |
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| skraynev | and what about case with two candidates ? | 07:24 |
| KanagarajM | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_March_2016 | 07:24 |
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| skraynev | KanagarajM: nice! thx. | 07:27 |
| * skraynev read doc | 07:27 | |
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| KanagarajM | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/089032.html | 07:29 |
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| skraynev | KanagarajM: aha. so we just wait opening of elections ;) | 07:30 |
| skraynev | good ;) | 07:30 |
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| ramishra | should we move back to #heat? | 07:31 |
| skraynev | and after that I can relax and sit back during meeting time ;) | 07:32 |
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| skraynev | yeah. I suppose, that we can finish if there is not objections. | 07:32 |
| stevebaker | sounds good to me | 07:32 |
| skraynev | great! | 07:33 |
| skraynev | #endmeeting | 07:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 07:33:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-16-07.00.html | 07:33 |
| skraynev | thank you all | 07:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-16-07.00.txt | 07:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-03-16-07.00.log.html | 07:33 |
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| KanagarajM | skraynev, :) | 07:34 |
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| BobBall | #startmeeting XenAPI | 09:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 09:31:19 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is BobBall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 09:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 09:31 |
| BobBall | Morning all - morning johnthetubaguy | 09:31 |
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| huanxie | morning all, morning johnthetubaguy | 09:32 |
| jianghuaw | Hello, all. | 09:32 |
| BobBall | #topic Blueprints | 09:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 09:32 | |
| johnthetubaguy | BobBall: hey, so I have questions on that test, I think you are missing one of the file changes, but lets get onto that in a sec | 09:32 |
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| BobBall | OK - I'll go first :) | 09:32 |
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| BobBall | I've got a Newton spec up for separating compute from XenServer | 09:33 |
| BobBall | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277452/ | 09:33 |
| BobBall | this is the one we talked about johnthetubaguy | 09:33 |
| BobBall | when you were in Cambridge | 09:33 |
| BobBall | So you've already "reviewed" it once ;) | 09:33 |
| BobBall | I've added you to the review list - if you could give it another once over that'd be great. | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | heh | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | something for post RC1 | 09:34 |
| BobBall | Yeah - that's in the next few days isn't it? | 09:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | should have been yesterday | 09:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | still running around trying to make that happen | 09:35 |
| BobBall | Fair enough. | 09:35 |
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| BobBall | We've actually got quite a few blueprints we'd like to talk about - when's the best time to go through them? | 09:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we can run through the highlights now | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | good to have the links in the notes from the meeting, so we can run through them later, etc | 09:36 |
| BobBall | OK - so that's my main BP for Newton. | 09:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds good | 09:36 |
| BobBall | jianghuaw: what do you have open? | 09:37 |
| jianghuaw | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280099/ | 09:37 |
| jianghuaw | BP for " XenAPI: support VGPU via passthrough PCI" | 09:37 |
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| jianghuaw | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274045/ | 09:37 |
| jianghuaw | for " Xenapi: a new VDI store via streaming" | 09:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a dependency thier I guess | 09:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | for the VDI streaming an moving the compute | 09:38 |
| BobBall | So the first one is because in Mitaka we had a BP that was shelved because we were trying to add a new vGPU type to filter on. As libvirt will likely present any vGPU device (and some devices such as AMD Tonga will be SR-IOV) as a fake PCI device, we've adopted that approach there. | 09:38 |
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| BobBall | VDI streaming is indeed a pre-requisite for moving the compute yes. That's listed in the compute spec. | 09:38 |
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| jianghuaw | yes. | 09:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | sounds good, just checking my memory really | 09:39 |
| BobBall | huanxie? Anything from you? | 09:39 |
| huanxie | yes, Bob | 09:39 |
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| huanxie | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/xenserver-give-support-on-neutron-security-group | 09:39 |
| huanxie | this is for neturon security group | 09:39 |
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| BobBall | Ah yes. Hopefully that's a spec-less blueprint - but that's up to you johnthetubaguy. Effectively we need to add an interim Linux bridge in the same way that OVS does | 09:40 |
| BobBall | -OVS+libvirt | 09:40 |
| BobBall | We'll also have a Neutron BP I hope to add support for XenAPI using a daemon mode | 09:41 |
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| BobBall | And anything from huazhihao? | 09:41 |
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| huazhihao | I have spec-less BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bare-vhd-image | 09:42 |
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| BobBall | Ah - awesome. Yes, I hope that one's specless as well. | 09:43 |
| BobBall | I think that covers all of the BPs? | 09:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | that feels specless | 09:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | although I think it needs more details in the blueprint | 09:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | what would the glance options be, why is it useful, etc | 09:44 |
| huazhihao | Understood, thank you | 09:44 |
| BobBall | Yes - agreed. huazhihao can add some more details there instead of having a spec. | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | needs submitted for approval once we have the process sorted for Newton, will work with the next PTL to get that sorted quickly | 09:44 |
| BobBall | OK - now the fun one | 09:44 |
| huazhihao | Will do | 09:44 |
| BobBall | #topic Bugs & QA | 09:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs & QA (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 09:44 | |
| BobBall | So... There is a big bug in XenAPI live migrate that was discovered yesterday | 09:45 |
| BobBall | There has been a whole bunch of change in the area and, while some of the patches were tested and shown to work, there were further patches which were assumed not to have an impact but which seem to have broken all live migration. | 09:45 |
| BobBall | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1557585 | 09:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1557585 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Xenapi live-migration does not work at all now" [High,In progress] - Assigned to John Garbutt (johngarbutt) | 09:46 |
| BobBall | We don't have a fix yet | 09:46 |
| BobBall | but hopefully will have one today | 09:46 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy is mainly working on it and I'm testing patches | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | so my patch changed the driver.py | 09:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | it feels like you are missing that change | 09:47 |
| BobBall | https://github.com/BobBall/nova/commit/7acd7acafbf03103f2db53f50b3f5619af363c58 I think I have it | 09:47 |
| BobBall | https://github.com/BobBall/nova/commits/lm-fix is the branch I'm testing | 09:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | mostly because I just found a typo in the code that should have been populating sr_uuid_map that isn't running, for some reason, which is odd | 09:48 |
| BobBall | Since there are multiple changes needed, I'm putting them in a github branch and just pulling that branch into my pair of devstacks and restarting all of the nova services | 09:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, so maybe it just swollowed the exception during pre-live-migration | 09:48 |
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| BobBall | Could be. | 09:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | I need to start getting unit tests on them, its just a broken code sketch at this point, to get my head straight | 09:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the latest patch should be better, I think... | 09:49 |
| BobBall | OK - but the next plan of action is for me to push a gerrit review for the aggregate bug change (https://github.com/BobBall/nova/commit/3589212cef33736962376aa2fb82ad38ea57ac28) and rebase your and Pawel's changes on that | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | do you have a full log trace from the tests you ran on there, well just for the one live-migrate? | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | can we put that on the top? | 09:49 |
| BobBall | Yes; we're logging everything | 09:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean, could I give them a quick read please, for the pre-live-migrate stuff? | 09:50 |
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| BobBall | huh? I'm confused | 09:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the logs for the run where you hit the sr_uuid_map error | 09:50 |
| BobBall | You want the full logs? sure. | 09:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | ideally, yeah | 09:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | it feels like it was an error caused by an earlier failure | 09:51 |
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| BobBall | both sides? | 09:51 |
| BobBall | and just nova logs? | 09:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | its easier than me working out which side I think it happened | 09:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, just nova-compute | 09:51 |
| * johnthetubaguy note to self, get test cluster on my laptop running again, once no longer PTL | 09:52 | |
| BobBall | I wonder if it'd be easier for me to just connect two of the devstacks in RAX cloud | 09:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, quite possibly | 09:52 |
| BobBall | I'll do that. Then we can both connect live. | 09:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, I keep meaning on setting that up for the team here actually | 09:53 |
| BobBall | setting what up? | 09:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | creating xenservers in our cloud | 09:53 |
| BobBall | Got two nodes reserved; "just" need to run devstack on them with the right magic | 09:54 |
| BobBall | I'll work on that in the next 30 minutes and if I can't get it working I'll just dump the logs from the two nodes I have locally. | 09:54 |
| BobBall | Anything else needed v.short term? | 09:55 |
| BobBall | OK - then we'll finish that topic | 09:55 |
| BobBall | #topic AOB | 09:55 |
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| BobBall | Anything else :) | 09:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | nothing from me | 09:56 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 09:56 |
| BobBall | huanxie huazhihao jianghuaw? | 09:57 |
| jianghuaw | nothing from me. thanks. | 09:57 |
| huanxie | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213112/ | 09:57 |
| huazhihao | That is it. | 09:57 |
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| huazhihao | Thank you Bob and John | 09:57 |
| huanxie | I just noticed I need johnthetubaguy help to review this again | 09:57 |
| BobBall | huanxie: Good point. It's missed Mitaka, so we'll need to focus on Newton. I guess it's one for review post-RC1 when johnthetubaguy has more time. | 09:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, looks that way, I am afraid | 09:58 |
| huanxie | Thanks a lot:) | 09:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | digging on this live-migrate issue | 09:58 |
| BobBall | Hoepfully it'll be a quick +2 johnthetubaguy since you've already +2'ed it - but let's talk again on that one soon. | 09:59 |
| BobBall | We'll close there then. Good meeting - thanks all. | 09:59 |
| BobBall | #endmeeting | 09:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 09:59:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-03-16-09.31.html | 09:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-03-16-09.31.txt | 09:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-03-16-09.31.log.html | 09:59 |
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| Huiji | ：） | 10:09 |
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| joehuang123 | hello | 13:03 |
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| xuxiaojie | hello | 13:03 |
| joehuang123 | hi | 13:03 |
| Yipei | hi | 13:03 |
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| joehuang123 | just few minutes, come back soon. | 13:03 |
| RHcao | hi | 13:04 |
| xuxiaojie | it's so hard to join here | 13:04 |
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| zhiyuan_ | using vpn will be better | 13:06 |
| RHcao | hello This is the first time to join the discussion | 13:06 |
| xuxiaojie | haixia use vpu,but can't join the meeting | 13:07 |
| xuxiaojie | sorry, vpn | 13:07 |
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| joehuang123 | hi | 13:08 |
| zhiyuan_ | hmm, i am using a irc terminal tool, not sure if this tool is better than web client | 13:08 |
| joehuang123 | ok, let's start the meeting | 13:08 |
| joehuang123 | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 13:08:43 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang123. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:08 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:08 |
| joehuang123 | hi RHcao, could you introduce yourself briefly | 13:09 |
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| RHcao | ok | 13:09 |
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| RHcao | i am the doctor of hunan university | 13:09 |
| tommouse | RHCao is a ph.D candidate | 13:10 |
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| RHcao | College of Computer Science and Electronic Engineering | 13:10 |
| joehuang123 | hi, Tommouse, also first time to meet you here | 13:10 |
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| tommouse | hi joe, I am zhuo tang. | 13:11 |
| joehuang123 | great, RHcao and tommouse, welcome to join tricircle | 13:11 |
| joehuang123 | ok, also a brief introduction | 13:11 |
| RHcao | there is another member longxiongqiu | 13:11 |
| longxiongqiu | Hi joe | 13:12 |
| tommouse | i am very interested to join this group. | 13:12 |
| joehuang123 | o, a big team. Xiongqiu | 13:12 |
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| joehuang123 | really nice to see more and more people are interested in Tricircle | 13:12 |
| joehuang123 | #topic rollcall | 13:13 |
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| joehuang123 | #info joehuang | 13:13 |
| zhiyuan_ | #info zhiyuan | 13:13 |
| haixia | hi, I spent about 30 min to join the meeting. | 13:13 |
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| tommouse | Yes, i think Tricircle will be more and more perfect under the leader of joe. | 13:14 |
| joehuang123 | really thick great wall | 13:14 |
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| joehuang123 | #topic progress review | 13:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "progress review (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 13:14 | |
| joehuang123 | let's look at the todo list | 13:14 |
| joehuang123 | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleToDo | 13:14 |
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| joehuang123 | please mark down the item are doing and finished | 13:15 |
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| zhiyuan_ | how about security group? mark it as done? | 13:16 |
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| joehuang123 | SEG marked done, but add one more item, default SEG rule update | 13:17 |
| joehuang123 | this one need to be discussed | 13:18 |
| haixia | hi, joe, for hared vlan, there's no todo list. | 13:18 |
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| joehuang123 | please add one item | 13:18 |
| zhiyuan_ | ok | 13:18 |
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| joehuang123 | #info SEG marked done, but add one more item, default SEG rule update | 13:18 |
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| joehuang123 | #info add shared VLAN todo item | 13:19 |
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| haixia | @Joe, I have not been authorized to add a new one. | 13:21 |
| joehuang123 | hi, MITAKA release is approching, so I suggest to move some todo items from phase III to pahse 4 | 13:21 |
| joehuang123 | To haixia, it's OK, I can see the item you added | 13:22 |
| haixia | OK | 13:22 |
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| haixia | Maybe this friday, if you are free, we can have a discuss, then I work on the spec. | 13:23 |
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| joehuang123 | I am going to Guangzhou for USA visa this Friday, we can have chat tomorrow in #openstack-tricircle | 13:25 |
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| haixia | ok | 13:25 |
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| joehuang123 | Hi, For Mitaka is close to release | 13:27 |
| joehuang123 | So we need also to follow the release pace, and have one release based on MITAKA | 13:27 |
| tommouse | @joe, we are considering how can we take part in the development process as soon as possible. Hence we can have the related task items in Todo. Maybe we can disscuss the task distribution about the team from Hunan University later. | 13:27 |
| joehuang123 | many phase 3 items not finished are moved to phase 4 | 13:27 |
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| joehuang123 | that's ok | 13:28 |
| joehuang123 | we can also keep touch in #openstack-tricircle channel | 13:28 |
| tommouse | OK | 13:28 |
| joehuang123 | you can pick up the items you are interested in | 13:28 |
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| tommouse | OK | 13:28 |
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| joehuang123 | and after Mitaka, I suggest to use BP/spec to follow new item | 13:29 |
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| joehuang123 | so that we can have better design review | 13:29 |
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| tommouse | @RHcao we need to discuss the items in todo later. | 13:29 |
| joehuang123 | currently a new framework based on the stateless design is basicly available in Mitaka | 13:30 |
| zhiyuan_ | joe: that's fine | 13:30 |
| joehuang123 | but all of us can see that there are still lot of things to do | 13:30 |
| RHcao | ok | 13:30 |
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| joehuang123 | and more and more people join, we need a way for communication and review, discussion | 13:31 |
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| joehuang123 | hi, Yipei, how about your environment setup? | 13:31 |
| Yipei_ | Hi, Joe, I install devstack in two nodes separately as you suggested. Although Devstack can be installed successfully in both nodes, respectively, I think there are some problems with the neutron on node1. | 13:32 |
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| Yipei_ | When I reboot the node1 and execute rejoin-stack.sh, the errors are pasted in the link. #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/490678/. | 13:33 |
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| Yipei_ | neotron fails to start up | 13:34 |
| Yipei_ | neutron | 13:34 |
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| joehuang123 | RPC not setting correctly | 13:34 |
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| zhiyuan_ | reboot host and then run rejoin-stack.sh is not working properly in devstack | 13:35 |
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| zhiyuan_ | maybe cause problem sometimes | 13:35 |
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| joehuang123 | did you run ./stack.sh again after reboot host? | 13:35 |
| RHcao | hi, Joe , i install devstack in one node and in the RegionOne can't see the imformation of Pod1. The single node precept is working? | 13:35 |
| Yipei_ | @joe, no | 13:36 |
| tommouse | what is the stateless model in todo? | 13:36 |
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| joehuang123 | to Yipei, you need to do so | 13:36 |
| Yipei_ | ok, i see | 13:36 |
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| joehuang123 | to RHcao, do you add pod1 using CURL, and have the Pod1 registered successfully in KeyStone? | 13:37 |
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| zhiyuan_ | tommouse: now we are working on the stateless model of Tricircle | 13:38 |
| joehuang123 | to tommouse statless model is the current design, the old design is statefull, the top is one whole openstack instance | 13:38 |
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| RHcao | i run the stack.sh and edit the local.conf | 13:39 |
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| zhiyuan_ | RHcao: did you follow the steps described in our README.md? | 13:40 |
| RHcao | yes | 13:40 |
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| RHcao | and i run the old order nova-manage service list | 13:40 |
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| RHcao | nova-api and nova-metedata is down | 13:40 |
| joehuang123 | follow the steps described in README in https://github.com/openstack/tricircle is recommended | 13:41 |
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| RHcao | ok | 13:43 |
| zhiyuan_ | RHcao: what's the result of running "openstack endpoint list"? | 13:43 |
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| RHcao | the list is right | 13:44 |
| joehuang123 | #info after Mitaka, suggest to use BP/spec to follow new item | 13:44 |
| joehuang123 | How about this one curl -X POST http://127.0.0.1:19999/v1.0/pods -H "Content-Type: application/json" \ -H "X-Auth-Token: $token" -d '{"pod": {"pod_name": "Pod1", "az_name": "az1"}} | 13:45 |
| joehuang123 | This command is to add Pod1 in Tricircle | 13:45 |
| zhiyuan_ | RHcao: then it's fine. If I am correct, "nova service-list" will send request to our nova api gateway, but nova api gateway doesn't handle this request | 13:45 |
| RHcao | yes | 13:45 |
| RHcao | that's my puzzled | 13:46 |
| RHcao | and i chech the log | 13:46 |
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| RHcao | nova-api alos report ERROR | 13:46 |
| joehuang123 | Nova-API gateway not support the service-list yet | 13:46 |
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| RHcao | i also to find the way to start the nova-api server in devstack | 13:47 |
| RHcao | but failed~ | 13:47 |
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| zhiyuan_ | RHcao: no need to start nova-api in RegionOne | 13:47 |
| joehuang123 | You mean pod1 nova-api or Tricircle nova-apigw | 13:47 |
| RHcao | pod1 nova-api | 13:47 |
| joehuang123 | no Nova-API in Tricircle | 13:48 |
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| joehuang123 | OK, let's move this discussion to #openstack-tricircle tomorrow | 13:48 |
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| zhiyuan_ | try "nova --os-region-name Pod1 service-list" | 13:48 |
| zhiyuan_ | so you can check the service in Pod1 | 13:48 |
| joehuang123 | it's time to conclude the meeting | 13:48 |
| RHcao | the webpage of RegionOne there is no imformation of Pod1 | 13:48 |
| joehuang123 | doesn't work well in horizon, not check yet. only command tested | 13:49 |
| Yipei_ | @joe, sorry about the slow progress. I have been busy with my graduate thesis and Ph.D. admission interview during last two weeks. This weekend, they both come to an end. And I will devote myself to the project next week and try to finish the installation. | 13:49 |
| RHcao | ok i see thank so muc | 13:49 |
| RHcao | much | 13:49 |
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| joehuang123 | that's ok, no problem. Yipei | 13:50 |
| joehuang123 | ok , see you , let's continue discussion in daily communication channel #openstack-tricircle | 13:50 |
| joehuang123 | #endmeeting | 13:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 13:51:03 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-16-13.08.html | 13:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-16-13.08.txt | 13:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-03-16-13.08.log.html | 13:51 |
| zhiyuan_ | bye | 13:51 |
| Yipei_ | good night | 13:51 |
| joehuang123 | bye | 13:51 |
| xuxiaojie | bye | 13:51 |
| RHcao | bye good night | 13:51 |
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| Zara | anyone about for the storyboard meeting? | 15:00 |
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| Zara | I believe that most folks are either ill or on holiday | 15:00 |
| persia | o/ | 15:00 |
| Zara | (though hopefully not both) | 15:00 |
| Zara | hi persia! | 15:00 |
| Zara | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 15:00:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Zara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:00 |
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| Zara | #topic announcements | 15:01 |
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| Zara | There are none | 15:01 |
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| Zara | well, SotK is ill, and betherly is on holiday, if that counts | 15:01 |
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| Zara | expect merges to be a bit slower than usual | 15:01 |
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| Zara | #topic Urgent Items | 15:01 |
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| Zara | I have one thing listed! | 15:01 |
| Zara | The last of the email config patches! | 15:01 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293367/ | 15:02 |
| Zara | I realise this is like an ongoing comedy skit at this point | 15:02 |
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| Zara | but that should be the last one | 15:02 |
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| Zara | it awaits reviews, please review if you want email notifications to come to a storyboard.openstack.org near you | 15:02 |
| Zara | #topic In Progress Work | 15:03 |
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| Zara | SotK had been working on worklists and boards before illness | 15:03 |
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| Zara | his eta on Thurs was Fri, then he couldn't concentrate, and thought he might be ill; now he's ill | 15:03 |
| Zara | so.... probably in review soon, ceteris paribus | 15:04 |
| Zara | #info Automatic Worklists and Boards seems to be going well, progress frozen while SotK is ill | 15:05 |
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| Zara | I've been looking at task comments, this week | 15:05 |
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| Zara | or task notes, to use the term I *should* be using, in the name of consistency | 15:05 |
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| Zara | you can now comment directly on a task in storyboard | 15:06 |
| Zara | it is the best | 15:06 |
| Zara | I use it all the time | 15:06 |
| Zara | #info you can now put notes on a task in storyboard from the story view | 15:06 |
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| Zara | I have some further patches for this in review | 15:06 |
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| persia | To be clear, this isn't a discussion on a task, but rather a single editable markdown field that people can populate with things? | 15:06 |
| Zara | yes | 15:06 |
| * persia was worried for a moment by the use of "comment" | 15:07 | |
| Zara | yeah, that's why I should avoid calling it 'comments' | 15:07 |
| Zara | it confuses things | 15:07 |
| Zara | it's effectively a task-description | 15:07 |
| Zara | (in terms of the implementation, anyway) | 15:08 |
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| Zara | there are some examples here, currently only viewable for someone logged-in | 15:09 |
| Zara | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000511 | 15:09 |
| Zara | you can see I went overboard :P | 15:09 |
| Zara | so, other patches for that are in review: | 15:09 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291755/ | 15:09 |
| Zara | that is the most important one | 15:09 |
| Zara | it lets someone add/view notes to a task from the board view | 15:10 |
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| Zara | I predict it'll be very annoying to only be able to do it from the story view | 15:10 |
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| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292957/ | 15:10 |
| Zara | ^ lets logged-out people read, but not edit task notes | 15:11 |
| Zara | and | 15:11 |
| persia | My concern is that people may use these notes from other views in lieu of discussion in the story, which may cause either discussion to be lost or captured forever in the task description. | 15:11 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/292462/ | 15:11 |
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| persia | That said, we'll have to see how people actually use it :) | 15:11 |
| Zara | mentions task notes in the list of task details in the 'task details changed' email | 15:11 |
| Zara | agreed, I noticed it because I wanted to do it | 15:11 |
| Zara | we might eventually want different things visible from boards vs stories... but it's a long way off! | 15:12 |
| Zara | oh, just read backscroll, sorry, should've looked at window | 15:13 |
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| Zara | I think eventually we'll want history for task notes and things like that; theoretically it should go in the events timeline, but I'm not sure about the space around that | 15:13 |
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| Zara | when you add/change a note, it does a PUT | 15:13 |
| persia | Maybe sometthing to discuss in Austin. | 15:14 |
| Zara | and that triggers the 'task details changed' event, at least. so it shoudl be possible to have a 'task notes changed' event, and log the details of the task description change in the timeline | 15:14 |
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| Zara | we currently don't do that for story descriptions, either, and we should | 15:14 |
| Zara | so I can see that being part of a bigger effort involving events timelines/history etc | 15:14 |
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| Zara | (along with history for boards/worklists) | 15:15 |
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| Zara | the task note changes will be recorded in emails (even without the task note email patch), so there will be a history, but not in the best place. | 15:17 |
| Zara | Other in progress work... I have lots of misc stuff in review | 15:18 |
| Zara | and most of it is waiting on SotK's +2 at this point | 15:18 |
| Zara | or any other storyboard core, if anyone's around, I just default to his | 15:19 |
| Zara | (he will be on holiday soon, so I will have to bang on some doors for a couple of weeks) | 15:19 |
| Zara | if anyone's bothered by having multiple search icons, this is still in review: | 15:19 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279204/ | 15:19 |
| Zara | if anyone wants a very basic page that just lists all boards and worklists, we need the above + this: | 15:20 |
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| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279753/ | 15:21 |
| Zara | I'm used to storyboard so I'm happy to work around those until we have time to make the list of all boards + worklists nicer | 15:21 |
| Zara | at this point, it's only of relevance to people who want to demo features | 15:21 |
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| Zara | the multiple search thing is confusing, but only for new users, and I think most of our users are used to it and don't care. | 15:23 |
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| Zara | so *shrug* | 15:23 |
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| Zara | moving on! | 15:23 |
| Zara | #topic Discussion | 15:23 |
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| Zara | so we mentioned getting a public dev instance, last week | 15:23 |
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| Zara | I've written up motivations for that | 15:24 |
| Zara | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000028 | 15:24 |
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| Zara | on an older story about it | 15:24 |
| Zara | some tasks may be outdated | 15:24 |
| Zara | #link http://storyboard.sotk.co.uk/#!/dashboard/stories | 15:24 |
| Zara | ^ is the closest thing we have to a public playground instance atm | 15:25 |
| Zara | I think SotK runs it at home or something | 15:25 |
| Zara | I don't even know. | 15:25 |
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| Zara | oh, actually, no, I think it's on our infra. anyway, it's slower than production, and we dig it up when we want to demo something, so we don't maintain it well | 15:26 |
| Zara | *our -> our employer's, not infra's | 15:26 |
| Zara | actually I'll just stop speculating because sotk has like 30 instances and I can never remember which is which | 15:27 |
| Zara | it'd be good to have something more official, that ran from master (or a dev branch) | 15:28 |
| Zara | ran from -> was CD from | 15:28 |
| Zara | I can't write words today | 15:29 |
| Zara | anyway, hopefully that story makes it a bit clearer, please add details as appropraite | 15:29 |
| Zara | *appropriate | 15:29 |
| Zara | other things... | 15:29 |
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| Zara | I've put a task-tracking session on the infra etherpad, because why not | 15:30 |
| Zara | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-newton-summit-planning | 15:30 |
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| Zara | in seriousness I'm not clear on task-tracker requirements and I'd like to get that clearer | 15:31 |
| persia | On dev instance: isn't production CD from master? Wouldn't we want some pre-CD collection of patches? | 15:31 |
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| Zara | persia: so, there are a few motivations. if we just want a playground, we can use master CD. if we want a place to demonstrate wip, I was thinking we could have a dev branch that would CD to a dev instance | 15:32 |
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| persia | Ah. I see. | 15:33 |
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| Zara | or we have some combination, or something a bit different; I've just tried to collect some thoughts on it together | 15:33 |
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| Zara | for demoing wip, I think we may actually need multiple instances, but after a while it gets ridiculous | 15:35 |
| Zara | (I'm thinking of situations where we're making DB changes that conflict with each other, so we can't just pull changes into one instance) | 15:35 |
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| Zara | anyway, returning to infra-task tracking-- if it's better as a cross-project session, I'd be fine with doing that instead | 15:36 |
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| Zara | I think we're already fairly clear on what storyboard will focus on in Newton, so it's more to check that it makes sense. | 15:38 |
| Zara | if I get there and everyone's saying that a task-tracker needs VR, useful to know. | 15:39 |
| Zara | moving on... | 15:39 |
| Zara | #topic Open Discussion | 15:39 |
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| Zara | Openly discuss things! | 15:39 |
| Zara | anyone have anything to discuss? | 15:40 |
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| * Zara considers changing her nick to 'SotK' and having a discussion | 15:42 | |
| Zara | oh well, hope he feels better soon! | 15:42 |
| Zara | In that case, I'll give it another coupla minutes, then end this meeting | 15:42 |
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| smcginnis | Zara: I think you forgot to actually end your meeting. | 16:00 |
| Zara | sorry! | 16:00 |
| Zara | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 16:00:54 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-16-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-16-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-03-16-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| fernnest | here | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Zara: Thanks! | 16:01 |
| Zara | thank you for reminding me | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 16:01:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:01 |
| fernnest | here | 16:01 |
| Swanson | hello | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Courtesy ping: dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard vincent_hou kmartin patrickeast sheel dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo | 16:01 |
| dulek | hi! :) | 16:01 |
| jseiler_ | hi | 16:01 |
| yuriy_n17 | hi | 16:01 |
| yhayashi | hi | 16:01 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:01 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:01 |
| vivekdhayaal | hi | 16:01 |
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| geguileo | Hi | 16:01 |
| sheel | hello all | 16:01 |
| mc_nair | o/ | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Hey everyone. | 16:01 |
| vincent_hou | hi | 16:01 |
| baumann | Hello! | 16:01 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 16:01 |
| patrickeast | Hey | 16:01 |
| hemna | hi | 16:01 |
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| jgregor | Hola | 16:01 |
| bswartz | ¬_¬ | 16:01 |
| cfouts | hi | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Lot's today. Let's get started. | 16:01 |
| * DuncanT wakes up | 16:01 | |
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| xyang1 | hi | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Release Status | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Today's the day. | 16:02 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | I would like to cut RC-1 today, if possible. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | We have a few final bug fixes and important updates to get in first. | 16:02 |
| ntpttr | hi | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | So hopefully gerrit doesn't have other things in mind. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Wow, it came so quickly! | 16:02 |
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| bswartz | jungleboyj: it's 1 week shorter this cycle | 16:02 |
| e0ne | good news! | 16:03 |
| sheel | first release after i joined cinder... | 16:03 |
| kmartin | hi | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks to DuncanT - he started this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-mataka-release-final-push | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | With help from sheel! | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-mataka-release-final-push Final push | 16:03 |
| JayXu | hi | 16:04 |
| sheel | :) | 16:04 |
| xyang | mataka?:) | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | The colors are killing me, but please add anything important there and I'll make sure we are covered. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | xyang: LOL | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: So we should focus review there and -2 anything else? | 16:04 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis: +1 | 16:04 |
| e0ne | xyang: :) | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yes, please. | 16:04 |
| hemna | my eyes! | 16:04 |
| diablo_rojo | My eyes are burning | 16:04 |
| * jungleboyj cries as I open the page. | 16:04 | |
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| jungleboyj | Oh thank you! | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | OK, I had to clear the colors. | 16:04 |
| Swanson | mine eyes! The goggles, they do nothing! | 16:04 |
| geguileo | Thank you for the color change | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 16:05 |
| dulek | Is master open for Newton just after we cut RC-1? | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Yes, good question. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Once we cut Mitaka RC a new branch will be created. | 16:05 |
| sheel | its ok now | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | That effectively makes master switch over to Newton. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Our focus still needs to be on wrapping up Mitaka. | 16:05 |
| dulek | smcginnis: Okay, so until stable/mitaka is there, the master isn't opened. :) | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | But it is possible to loosen things up a little again and start letting things through for N. | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | dulek: Right! | 16:06 |
| DuncanT | Note that people should be focusing on testing the release where possible, rather than forging ahead with master | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: +1000 | 16:06 |
| dulek | DuncanT: +1 :) | 16:06 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: +2 | 16:06 |
| bswartz | traditionally there's a quiet period after cutting the branch, because anything that goes into master that doesn't get backported makes it harder to backport fixes to RC2 | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | bswartz: Good call! | 16:06 |
| bswartz | and the testing thing too | 16:06 |
| hemna | testing? | 16:07 |
| hemna | what's that | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | Yes. Cores please be aware of making backports too complicated until M is final. | 16:07 |
| sheel | haha | 16:07 |
| Swanson | hemna, hpe slogan? | 16:07 |
| hemna | :) | 16:07 |
| e0ne | hemna: it's something after you depoy Mitaka to production:) | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Having some quiet time is good. | 16:07 |
| hemna | ah yes | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | #topic Volumes in error take up quota | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: All yours | 16:08 |
| DuncanT | Oh, this one | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: So, anything on that review list that doesn't make it in before the RC cut will have to be backported to RC-1. RIght? | 16:08 |
| DuncanT | So it looks like (and I might be totally wrong, I've not do more than read the code) that volumes in error take up quota | 16:08 |
| DuncanT | This does not seem like desired behaviour from a tenant PoV | 16:09 |
| bswartz | shouldn't they take up quota? if they don't take quota but they take actual space you could formulate a DOS attack around creating huge numbers of error state volumes | 16:09 |
| dulek | DuncanT: I think you're right on that. | 16:09 |
| mc_nair | DuncanT: pretty sure they do | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: If it's critical enough, yes. | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks. | 16:09 |
| DuncanT | bswartz: If you can cause volumes to go into error as a tenant, then something is broken | 16:09 |
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| bswartz | fair enough | 16:10 |
| DuncanT | bswartz: and they shouldn't be taking up resources other than a db entry anyway | 16:10 |
| dulek | DuncanT: Any retype errors or migration errors cannot cause that? | 16:10 |
| bswartz | that's not true -- delete volume can fail | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Guess it depends how/where they error. | 16:11 |
| dulek | bswartz: That would be error_deleting, | 16:11 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: +1 | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | Seems like they shouldn't take up quota if they error while created but should if they error while deleting. | 16:11 |
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| e0ne | DuncanT: we have to be careful, if volume is in error state and it takes some space on storage - it could be in issue | 16:12 |
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| eharney | can we actually differentiate between "failed and is using space" and "failed but is not using any space" ? | 16:12 |
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| smcginnis | eharney: I think we _could_. | 16:12 |
| vincent_hou | dulek: currectly migration retype can cause migration_status error, not volume status in error | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | But I don't think we do. | 16:12 |
| e0ne | eharney: good question | 16:12 |
| eharney | i'm not so sure, since there are a lot of ways a volume can end up in an error state | 16:12 |
| DuncanT | eharney: Not the way the code is currently | 16:12 |
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| patrickeast | eharney: that would be nice, but probably requires modifying all the drivers | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | I've always thought ideally we should have a failure rollback. | 16:13 |
| dulek | For a tenant if he ends up out of volume quota it isn't really hard to delete all the error ones by a single bash one-liner… | 16:13 |
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| eharney | the point was, i think we have to assume they are using space because we probably can't reliably tell | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | So if it fails after the backend has created the volume we actually delete it. | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | eharney: I think you're right. | 16:13 |
| DuncanT | dulek: They often go into error_deleting then, depending on the cause of the error | 16:14 |
| patrickeast | eharney: +1 | 16:14 |
| dulek | DuncanT: Fair point. | 16:14 |
| geguileo | eharney: +1 | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | To bswartz's point, if that happens someone could exhaust all resources. | 16:14 |
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| bswartz | the DOS attack doesn't even have to be malicious -- with the right kind of automation and retries, a well-meaning script could end up in a loop creating error volumes forever | 16:15 |
| DuncanT | Ok, so any fix is not trivial. I might look at not using quota in the unable-to-schedule case, and see how much that complicates things | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: OK, good. | 16:15 |
| DuncanT | Since that doesn't use any disk, ever | 16:15 |
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| e0ne | agree | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | A good thing to make better at any rate. | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: Anything else on the topic? | 16:16 |
| mc_nair | DuncanT: you'd need to make sure not to reduce quota on the volume delete then, right? that way it's not double counted | 16:16 |
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| geguileo | You have to be carefull on deleting the volume | 16:16 |
| geguileo | Because if you haven't used quota, you cannot free it | 16:16 |
| DuncanT | smcginnis: Nope, mostly wanted to get thoughts before I put any effort into it | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Great, thanks! | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Gerrit IP change | 16:16 |
| DuncanT | And yes, one of the complications I mentioned is the delete code :-) | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | So this is just an announcement. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | The IP address of gerrit will be changing soon. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-March/088985.html Gerrit IP change | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | If you're CI has specific firewall rules, please don't get caught off guard. | 16:17 |
| e0ne | should we notify 3rd party CI maintainers? | 16:18 |
| geguileo | e0ne: +1 | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | It was announced on the mailing list, so just highlighting it here. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | But if someone wants to volunteer to notify everyone directly, I certainly have no objections. | 16:18 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Summit session planning | 16:19 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: I didn't find it in openstack-infra ML | 16:19 |
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| smcginnis | So I probably should have sent out a ML on session planning, in hindsight. | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | But oh well. | 16:19 |
| bswartz | e0ne: dev list tagged with [infra] | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Probably should have been cross posted I guess. | 16:19 |
| e0ne | bswartz: yes, but it's a differrent ML | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-cinder-summit-ideas Session planning etherpad | 16:20 |
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| smcginnis | We have rooms allocated as of this morning. | 16:20 |
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| JayXu | Will the new IP address be available in April 11, 2016 20:00 UTC and the old IP will be removed at that time? | 16:20 |
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| smcginnis | We have 4 fishbowls. 5 working rooms, and a space all day Friday for a contributors meetup. | 16:21 |
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| smcginnis | JayXu: It will be a hard switchover from one to the other, so once the new one is live the old one goes away. | 16:21 |
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| smcginnis | We can beg for more space if absolutely needed, but on the other hand, we can be nice and give space back if not needed. | 16:22 |
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| dulek | We don't have a lot of propositions yet. | 16:22 |
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| smcginnis | So if everyone can update session topics on the etherpad, I can start allocating space and see where we are. | 16:22 |
| hemna | odd, I don't see a Gerrit UI bitch session planned....... | 16:22 |
| dulek | And all the geguileo's updates for developers can be done at Friday I guess? | 16:22 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: We can reserve some time Friday for that one. ;) | 16:22 |
| bswartz | hemna: that's crossproject track | 16:23 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:23 |
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| hemna | bswartz, ah yes, different etherpad | 16:23 |
| geguileo | dulek: I think that would be the right moment | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | dulek: That's kind of what I was thinking. | 16:23 |
| dulek | hemna: Isn't that for contributors beer evening? ;) | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | That way if one topic is shorter we can just move on to the next. | 16:23 |
| geguileo | At least that was my idea when I proposed them | 16:23 |
| dulek | :) | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | Although some of them are important enough that we may want to allocate a fishbowl to it. | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | We'll see how things end up. | 16:23 |
| DuncanT | I think some of them definitely could do with more format than the Friday session | 16:24 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Still frustrated by that? I had forgotten about it and moved on. | 16:24 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, daily... | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | Good new is we have another cross session with nova. Good to keep that rolling. | 16:24 |
| hemna | smcginnis, +1 | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: There there ... | 16:25 |
| hemna | we have a lot to cover in that | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:25 |
| sheel | smcginnis: will this all be through video conf as well? | 16:25 |
| dulek | DuncanT: But the session format geguileo is proposing is purely developer-oriented. | 16:25 |
| sheel | or only recorded sessions? | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | sheel: Depends if our A/V department can bring the gear (hemna), but yes, I'm hoping to. | 16:25 |
| DuncanT | dulek: Yes, but it is largely one-to-many, and the friday sessions make it difficult to do that sort of presentation | 16:26 |
| hemna | :) | 16:26 |
| hemna | I need to find a compact lightweight tripod | 16:26 |
| hemna | that fits in my backpack | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | sheel: We should at least be able to put a hangout up on the projector for folks that can't make it. | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo | hemna: If you don't wanna bring everything I can cover the tripod. | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Sick of holding the stick the whole time? :) | 16:26 |
| sheel | smcginnis: will be good to have | 16:26 |
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| hemna | yah the stick makes people sick | 16:26 |
| dulek | DuncanT: We can be disciplined enough to do that I think. :) | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | sheel: I'm assuming you're not able to attend in person? | 16:27 |
| hemna | diablo_rojo, ok that'd be cool if I can't find one thanks | 16:27 |
| sheel | smcginnis: yes, I tried to manage but could not make it ... | 16:27 |
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| sheel | :( | 16:27 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: Hopefully next time. | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: I also have one ... we will cover you if you need it. | 16:27 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Any suggestion about the driver replacement policy | 16:28 |
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| jungleboyj | sheel: Bummer. Start planning for Barcelona. :-) | 16:28 |
| sheel | smcginnis: yep... :) | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | JayXu: Hi, you're up. | 16:28 |
| JayXu | Oh, it is my turn | 16:28 |
| JayXu | In Tokyo summit, I had some conversation with some of Core team members, and at that time, we are thinking to re-architect VNX Cinder driver. Move some storage specific business logic out of Cinder driver and put them into pypi as the third party library. Even though, it still is hard to deliver the re-implementation of VNX Cinder driver phase by phase. So I would ask any possible to deliver... | 16:28 |
| JayXu | ...a new implementation of a driver in one commit. | 16:28 |
| sheel | jungleboyj: hehe, sure.. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | JayXu: I think we need to treat it as a new driver submission then. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | And apply the same policies around that. | 16:29 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: +1 | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | JayXu: So same deadlines, CI requirements, etc. | 16:29 |
| JayXu | okay, good to know that. | 16:29 |
| fernnest | JyaXu, we have similar issue w/ Hitachi and HPE driver so policy is good. | 16:29 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis: +1 | 16:29 |
| DuncanT | JayXu: I'd suggest a parallel driver for a time, to work the issues out, give it a new name, then once it is sorted use the mapping file to map the old name over | 16:29 |
| xyang | smcginnis: do we need to deprecate the old driver or can we keep the same driver name | 16:29 |
| JayXu | we can submit the new driver at the beginning of Newton timeframe | 16:29 |
| JayXu | yes, this is what we are expecting, thanks a lot. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | xyang: Good question. | 16:30 |
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| JayXu | we will deprecate the old driver. | 16:30 |
| JayXu | after the new driver is merged. | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | JayXu: OK, that works for me. | 16:30 |
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| smcginnis | JayXu: Anything else on this topic, or should I move on to the next agenda item? | 16:31 |
| JayXu | go ahead. I am done. thanks! | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | JayXu: OK, thanks. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | #topic Some operation passes even if volume service is disabled | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: Hey | 16:32 |
| sheel | smcginnis: we can skip this for now.. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Oh, now I see your note on there. | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | sheel: Sounds good. Important, but we can defer for now. | 16:32 |
| sheel | smcginnis: yes.. | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Dynamic reconfiguration | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Your turn | 16:33 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286234/ | 16:33 |
| e0ne | +1 on using SIGHUP | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | Man, look at us being efficient! | 16:33 |
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| sheel | +1 diablo_rojo for this thought.. | 16:33 |
| geguileo | lol | 16:33 |
| diablo_rojo | So after talking about the different approaches with DuncanT we thought the approach in the spec would be a good start. | 16:34 |
| dulek | I've already commented on that, but - reloading by watching doesn't reload what we already have in the memory. | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo | But it sounds like SIGHUP might be preferred? | 16:34 |
| eharney | the watch and automatic reload thing won't work | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo | I just wanted to get more opinions on it | 16:34 |
| bswartz | +1 for SIGHUP | 16:34 |
| dulek | Certainly we need to kill the service threads and make them restarted. | 16:34 |
| dulek | To reload memory content. | 16:34 |
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| DuncanT | SIGHUP is already used | 16:34 |
| geguileo | +1 for SIGHUP | 16:34 |
| dulek | And SIGHUP + oslo.service will do that for us. | 16:35 |
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| dulek | DuncanT: Yes, do we have a conflict here? | 16:35 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: yes, but we need to fix some issues with it. it doesn't work for all params | 16:35 |
| dulek | DuncanT: Reload the config + reload the pinned versions of APIs. | 16:35 |
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| DuncanT | I don't know if there's any downside to doing both the version pin stuff and the config reload on a SIGHUP | 16:35 |
| DuncanT | But it needs looking at for sure | 16:35 |
| dulek | DuncanT: This doesn't sound like something people would really need to be separated. | 16:36 |
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| diablo_rojo | It sounds like it might get a little complicated, but not impossible to do | 16:36 |
| DuncanT | dulek: Probably not, no | 16:36 |
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| DuncanT | dulek: I meant regarding bugs rather than anything else | 16:36 |
| geguileo | dulek: +1 | 16:36 |
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| dulek | DuncanT: Yeah, definitely mentioning it in the spec would rise some operators awareness. | 16:36 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay I can include that | 16:36 |
| geguileo | Should we stop everything if we just want to change the debug level? | 16:37 |
| dulek | diablo_rojo: Hey, had you looked how other services reload configs (if they do?) | 16:37 |
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| e0ne | geguileo: we don't know what was changed | 16:37 |
| geguileo | Because I think it shouldn't | 16:37 |
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| diablo_rojo | dulek: I have done a little research, but I definitely need to spend more time on it. Any project I should check out in particular? | 16:37 |
| geguileo | e0ne: We can tell | 16:37 |
| geguileo | e0ne: We have our current configuration and we can load the new one and compare | 16:38 |
| geguileo | right? | 16:38 |
| dulek | diablo_rojo: Anything using oslo_service will support SIGHUP by default. | 16:38 |
| e0ne | geguileo: IMO, it's good to have one solution for every config option and dont' care on a specific one | 16:38 |
| diablo_rojo | dulek: Okay yeah that sounds familiar. | 16:38 |
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| cfouts | eOne +1 | 16:38 |
| geguileo | e0ne: In my opinion debug and verbose are important enought to be a special case | 16:38 |
| dulek | diablo_rojo, geguileo: I'm not sure, but I think logging level reload is implemented in oslo_service? | 16:38 |
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| dulek | At least there were ideas like that. | 16:38 |
| jungleboyj | e0ne: ++ | 16:39 |
| geguileo | dulek: I thought that too, but I think there might be something we have to do in cinder... | 16:39 |
| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj: Captain oslo? Do you know if its in oslo_service? | 16:39 |
| geguileo | We should check it anyway | 16:39 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: I believe dulek is right. | 16:39 |
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| diablo_rojo | jungleboyj: Okay cool. | 16:39 |
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| DuncanT | The testing for this is also going to be a pain.... things like checking the ssh pools in drivers and such get rebuilt properly | 16:40 |
| e0ne | geguileo: you can change debug mode and, for example, some connection string (db, rabbitmq, keystone, glance, etc) | 16:40 |
| geguileo | e0ne: Then you have to drain | 16:40 |
| geguileo | e0ne: Anyway, I'll check if it currently works reloading of debug mode | 16:41 |
| diablo_rojo | So it sounds like I have a lot of changes to make.. | 16:41 |
| dulek | diablo_rojo: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/sighup-conf-reload | 16:41 |
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| dulek | diablo_rojo: Looks like at least Glance implemented that? | 16:41 |
| diablo_rojo | geguileo: Could you let me know what you find? | 16:41 |
| geguileo | diablo_rojo: I will ping you once I check it | 16:41 |
| diablo_rojo | dulek: Yeah that was in my list of things to look at. | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo | geguileo: Thank you :) | 16:42 |
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| smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Good for now? | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | Good that we aren't the very first. | 16:42 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:42 |
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| jungleboyj | We can't always be the trail blazers. :-) | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis: Yeah I think so. Lots of work to do :) | 16:42 |
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| smcginnis | diablo_rojo: For sure. Thanks! | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo | smcginnis: Thank you :) | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:43 |
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| jungleboyj | Go diablo, go diablo, go go! | 16:43 |
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| DuncanT | jungleboyj: The glance approach we can't really take though | 16:43 |
| e0ne | I thought we've got diablo release few years ago ;) | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:43 |
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| DuncanT | jungleboyj: Our design is fundamentally different | 16:43 |
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| smcginnis | Just to reiterate: I'll be working off of this before the cut: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-mataka-release-final-push | 16:43 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: :-( Bummer. | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | Anyone, feel free to ping me directly if there is something critical I need to watch for. | 16:44 |
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| sheel | :👍 | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | I'll end early if there isn't anything else. | 16:45 |
| diablo_rojo | I honestly didn't think we would get through that whole agenda. | 16:45 |
| DuncanT | Note that I didn't look at many driver bugs when putting that list together | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Me too, I'm surprised! | 16:45 |
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| Swanson | unavailable in a number field? | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:45 |
| Swanson | or unknown or infinite? | 16:45 |
| DuncanT | If you know of any in your driver, be prepared to shout up or backport | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | Does everyone have their cheesecake patches in? | 16:45 |
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| Swanson | jungleboyj, god help me, yes. | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | All the ones that had patches out at the midcycle are in. | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | So I feel good about that. | 16:46 |
| Swanson | petition to roll back to v2.0. | 16:46 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: O_o | 16:46 |
| * jungleboyj proposes returning to V1. | 16:46 | |
| xyang | smcginnis: are we going to disable 2.0? | 16:46 |
| vincent_hou | why is 2.0? replication? | 16:47 |
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| xyang | vincent_hou: yes | 16:47 |
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| DuncanT | vincent_hou: Yes, replication | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | xyang: Most stuff was removed from the client, but looks like a couple things got left behind. | 16:47 |
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| vincent_hou | I thought we did remove 2.0 | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | Once the freeze is over on client libs I'll do a new release getting those out of there so there's no confusion. | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | vincent_hou: Just a few cleanup items to take care of yet. | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | OK, go forth and test. Thanks everyone! | 16:48 |
| e0ne_ | smcginnis: we've already got stable/mitaka branch for python-cinderclient | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 16:48:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-16-16.01.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-16-16.01.txt | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-03-16-16.01.log.html | 16:48 |
| jungleboyj | Good meeting! Thanks! | 16:48 |
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| geguileo | Thanks | 16:49 |
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| jlvillal | #startmeeting ironic_qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 17:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_qa' | 17:00 |
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| jlvillal | Hello everyone | 17:00 |
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| cdearborn | o/ | 17:00 |
| [1]rpioso | o/ | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | As always the agenda is at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA | 17:00 |
| miles | o/ | 17:00 |
| jlvillal | #topic Announcements | 17:00 |
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| jlvillal | I don't have any announcements. | 17:00 |
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| jlvillal | Does anyone else? | 17:00 |
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| sambetts | o/ | 17:01 |
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| jlvillal | Okay moving on | 17:01 |
| jlvillal | #topic Grenade testing | 17:01 |
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| jlvillal | #info Work continues using https://github.com/JohnVillalovos/devstack-gate-test | 17:01 |
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| jlvillal | #info This week has been mainly focused on getting some helper tools to make reading the log files easier. To help figure out why it is failing. | 17:02 |
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| jlvillal | I will be pushing up a change shortly, once I make sure it works. | 17:02 |
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| miles | jlvillal, \o/ | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | Just cleaning up the ansible scripts and also adding a 'remove-fluff.py' script. | 17:02 |
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| jlvillal | #info At the moment code updated to support color when viewing logfiles using vim | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | I personally find that a great help to grok the logfiles. | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | Besides that nothing else to add. | 17:04 |
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| jlvillal | Any questions before we move on? | 17:04 |
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| jlvillal | Okay moving on | 17:04 |
| jlvillal | #topic Functional testing | 17:04 |
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| jlvillal | Any updates from anyone? mjturek1 ? | 17:04 |
| mjturek1 | hey jlvillal | 17:05 |
| mjturek1 | sorry was on a call | 17:05 |
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| jlvillal | mjturek1: I hunted you down ;) | 17:05 |
| mjturek1 | :) | 17:05 |
| mjturek1 | so we had some priority shifting and probably won't be able to get back to functional testing until April | 17:05 |
| mjturek1 | if there's time concerns I'm sure we'd welcome some help | 17:05 |
| mjturek1 | but otherwise we're more than willing to take it on again in april | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | #info Change in priorities for one team that was investigating functional testing. Likely won't be able to look again until April. | 17:06 |
| mjturek1 | sorry for the delay :( | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | #info If others would like to work on it before then, please feel free. | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | mjturek1: It is understandable. | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | Any other updates from anyone? | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | Okay moving on | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | #topic 3rd Party CI | 17:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "3rd Party CI (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:07 | |
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| jlvillal | krtaylor: ?? | 17:07 |
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| mjturek1 | jlvillal: krtaylor is out this afternoon actually! | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | Ah, do you have any updates? | 17:07 |
| sambetts | Please can we get some eyes on this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293020/4 | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | I did see sambetts and krtaylor did respond to the email question. Thanks to both | 17:07 |
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| sambetts | its blocking configuring tempest properly when your using the Ironic devstack plugin | 17:08 |
| mjturek1 | jlvillal: nothing from me | 17:08 |
| mjturek1 | sambetts: interesting, I'll give it a review! | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | sambetts: I'm looking for your +1 ;) | 17:08 |
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| jlvillal | #info Tempest patch to help 3rd Party CI: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293020/ | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | Anything else? | 17:09 |
| sambetts | jlvillal: I'm trying to get my CI to pass with it, it works fine when I run it manually, however when it being run by my jenkins job I'm hitting issues | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | Thanks for the info. | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | Okay moving on. | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | #topic Open Discussion / General QA topics | 17:10 |
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| jlvillal | The floor is open | 17:10 |
| jlvillal | I'll wait a few minutes, if anyone has anything to discuss. | 17:11 |
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| jlvillal | https://s3.amazonaws.com/magoosh-company-site/wp-content/uploads/hs/files/2016/01/22102433/anyone.gif | 17:12 |
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| jlvillal | Okay, I think we don't have anything. | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | Thanks everyone! | 17:12 |
| mjturek1 | jlvillal: thanks!!! | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | #endmeeting | 17:12 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 17:12:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:12 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-16-17.00.html | 17:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-16-17.00.txt | 17:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-03-16-17.00.log.html | 17:13 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 21:00 |
| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 21:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
| onovy | Hi | 21:00 |
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| dmorita | o/ | 21:00 |
| Zyric | Hi | 21:00 |
| kota_ | hello | 21:00 |
| cschwede | o/ | 21:00 |
| ho_away | o/ | 21:00 |
| minwoob | o/ | 21:00 |
| jrichli | hey | 21:00 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | eu | 21:00 |
| pdardeau | o/ | 21:00 |
| siva_krishnan | o/ | 21:00 |
| sgundur | hi | 21:00 |
| awelleck | o/ | 21:00 |
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| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome, everyone | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | acoles_ said he'd be a few minutes late | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | agenda this week is short. there's only one big topic to go over | 21:02 |
| torgomatic | . | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | release planning for the mitaka release | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | clayg: courtesy ping | 21:02 |
| acoles | here, sorry i am late | 21:03 |
| clayg | oh, short adgenda today - i like it | 21:03 |
| notmyname | so let's get started | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | clayg: might take awhile though :-) | 21:03 |
| clayg | boooo | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #topic mitaka release | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | we're coming up on the mitaka openstack release, so we need to have a swift release | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | our hard deadline, from a community perspective, is the end of the month (march 31/april 1) | 21:04 |
| notmyname | however, I want to do a release next week by march 25 | 21:04 |
| notmyname | #info release date goal is march 25 | 21:04 |
| notmyname | that's one week from friday | 21:04 |
| cschwede | an easter egg release! | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | wheee! | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | cschwede: can you send us all kinder eggs? | 21:05 |
| jrichli | i might know somebody who brought some to the US ... | 21:05 |
| cschwede | i’ll see what i can do ;) | 21:05 |
| notmyname | for the most part, we're looking pretty good for the release. there's not a huge thing that we must land before the release | 21:05 |
| notmyname | however, there are several things that *should* go in, and a few more that would be nice | 21:06 |
| notmyname | I spent some time this morning putting together that list | 21:06 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 21:06 |
| notmyname | I revived the old priority reviews wiki page to help over this next week | 21:06 |
| notmyname | the major things at the top are the things I think we really need to land for this release | 21:07 |
| notmyname | first, concurrent GETs | 21:07 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117710/ | 21:07 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 117710 - swift - Add concurrent reads option to proxy | 21:07 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: where are we here? | 21:07 |
| notmyname | and acoles and clayg (you've been looking at it) | 21:07 |
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| clayg | not so much, but i want to look at it again, this week for sure | 21:07 |
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| mattoliverau | I push a new patch yesterday (my time). | 21:08 |
| acoles | i didn't get tome to look at mattoliverau's new patch today but hope to tomorrow | 21:08 |
| mattoliverau | acoles was getting some intermittent test failure that I'm failing to reproduce. | 21:08 |
| clayg | even if someone else beats me to the +A I'll probably look at it - just cause it's important and wanna make sure i like it - everyone should look at it - concurrent gets is the bomb | 21:08 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: ta | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | ok, also note that mattoliverau is done with swift on his friday morning this week (at least for the next few weeks) | 21:08 |
| acoles | and i think clayg's follow up tests will help a lot | 21:08 |
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| notmyname | baby time | 21:09 |
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| clayg | acoles: i never could quite get happy with them - but i did want to setup something where I could run it through *all* the scenarios - maybe you can help me make what I started suck less | 21:09 |
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| acoles | mattoliverau: i didn't see them fail on my laptop, only on my w/station | 21:09 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, I be around, but not doing any work other then not sleeping :P | 21:09 |
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| acoles | clayg: thats what i want to do i.e. watch how different scenarios unfold | 21:10 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: you've done a great thing with concurrent gets - if somehow we can't iterate fast enough on the patch by friday acoles or i will take it over as a baby welcome gift | 21:10 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: ok. maybe I'll take a look on other decives. I'll try and recreate today | 21:10 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:10 |
| mattoliverau | :) | 21:10 |
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| acoles | mattoliverau: yep, great job, i'm sure its going to land | 21:11 |
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| notmyname | next up is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/279440/ which patches the auditor to not be terrible | 21:11 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 279440 - swift - Skip already checked partitions when auditing obje... | 21:11 |
| notmyname | not terrible == closes https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1183656 | 21:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1183656 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "object auditors don't finish" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Christian Schwede (cschwede) | 21:11 |
| clayg | oh that sounds good - oh goodness yes we have to land that | 21:11 |
| notmyname | this is cschwede's patch | 21:11 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: you were looking at it this morning. any updates or progress? | 21:11 |
| notmyname | cschwede: anything to raise in the meeting about it? | 21:11 |
| tdasilva | not yet, got swamped with meetings this afternoon | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | it already have one +2 from kota_ (thanks!) | 21:12 |
| cschwede | nope, hopefully it’s fine | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: will you be able to finish your review by this time tomorrow? | 21:12 |
| tdasilva | there's also a +1 from briancline which I think counts a lot | 21:12 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: I will definetely try to review tomorrow, can't commit that I will finish | 21:13 |
| notmyname | ok. if we don't have it landed tomorrow by my lunchtime, I'll start bugging people again about it :-) | 21:13 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: thanks | 21:13 |
| notmyname | next up is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238799/ | 21:13 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 238799 - swift - Change schedule priority of daemon/server in config | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | this is from peterlisak | 21:13 |
| notmyname | it's been sitting a while (too long!) with good comments | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | I cleaned up the merge conflict this morning and I'm looking at it, but we need one more | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | we've got ops feedback that it's good. it's shown benefit with real numbers. no reason not to land it | 21:14 |
| notmyname | well, no reason not to actually give it a review | 21:15 |
| notmyname | can anyone else volunteer to review it? | 21:15 |
| notmyname | kota_ torgomatic? | 21:15 |
| clayg | notmyname: was the code for calling into the priority thing really lifted from some GPL code base? cause it's way more than I expected (looking mainly at our super thing wrapper over other posix calls (e.g. fallocate) | 21:15 |
| clayg | *thin | 21:15 |
| kota_ | yup | 21:15 |
| clayg | kota_: yup as in it steals code form GPL project unattributed? | 21:16 |
| notmyname | clayg: ah, I'm not sure. I saw some comments, but I didn't see any new dependencies, so I just assumed it was new code written for this | 21:16 |
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| kota_ | maybe tommorow-ish I can have time to look at | 21:16 |
| notmyname | onovy: are you here? | 21:16 |
| clayg | I mean we could try to feign ignorence - but why are we copy-pasting that jazz anyway when we have examples in our own code base to crib from? | 21:16 |
| kota_ | clayg: oh, I'm too slow | 21:16 |
| onovy | Yep | 21:16 |
| clayg | oh, you weren't responding to me :) | 21:17 |
| notmyname | clayg: it's a good point. I thought there were new dependencies in an earlier patch set, so I assumed it was something new now that there aren't new dependencies | 21:17 |
| notmyname | onovy: ah, good. i want to see the ionice patch land, but clay raises the question about GPL code copied into the patch | 21:17 |
| notmyname | onovy: do you have any info on that? | 21:17 |
| notmyname | onovy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238799/ | 21:18 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 238799 - swift - Change schedule priority of daemon/server in config | 21:18 |
| onovy | I think it's just consts from kernel | 21:18 |
| onovy | Other code is Peter code | 21:18 |
| notmyname | soecifically https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238799/22/swift/common/priority.py | 21:18 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 238799 - swift - Change schedule priority of daemon/server in config | 21:18 |
| notmyname | ? | 21:18 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:18 |
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| onovy | It's inspired but other code, but not copy pasted | 21:19 |
| notmyname | so i'll keep looking at it, and I'll re-read the historical gerrit comments to see what the issue might be | 21:19 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:19 |
| onovy | Ok thanks | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | clayg: so we're probably ok | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | kota_: thanks for looking at that one (tomorrow) | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | next up is the copy middleware patch | 21:20 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156923/ | 21:20 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 156923 - swift - Refactor server side copy as middleware | 21:20 |
| notmyname | this depends on one more +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/260179/ | 21:20 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 260179 - swift - decouple versioned writes from COPY | 21:20 |
| notmyname | I don't want to necessarily try to slam this one into the release at the last minute, but it seems like we might be able to reasonably get it in | 21:21 |
| notmyname | and it's definitely required for crypto work (which I'll get to ina bit | 21:22 |
| notmyname | please look at these if you get a chance | 21:22 |
| clayg | oh goodness - we're swamped! :'( | 21:22 |
| notmyname | yeah, the other ones are definitely higher priority | 21:22 |
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| notmyname | ok, for smaller patches that could be nice to land in mitaka | 21:23 |
| notmyname | Updated Keystone middleware options: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293382/ | 21:23 |
| notmyname | Remove deprecated Keystone option: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258158/ | 21:23 |
| notmyname | fallocate as a percent: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288011/ | 21:23 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 293382 - swift - Make keystone middleware options consistent in docs | 21:23 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 258158 - swift - Keystone middleware deprecated option is_admin rem... | 21:23 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 288011 - swift - Allow fallocate_reserve to be a percentage | 21:23 |
| notmyname | the first 2 are mostly docs changes and simply need to be verified and landed | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | these 3 should be pretty easy for someone to review quickly, and they all seem to improve the quality of life for deployers | 21:25 |
| notmyname | I know you're not a fan of the fallocate percent one, clayg | 21:25 |
| notmyname | ok, next thing | 21:26 |
| notmyname | container sync | 21:26 |
| notmyname | as we talked at the hackathon, there's been a lot of work in this area | 21:27 |
| notmyname | from eran, these are the 3 patches that make significant progress for them with container sync | 21:27 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281814/ | 21:27 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 281814 - swift - Per container stat. report | 21:27 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210099/ | 21:27 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 210099 - swift - Add process level concurrency to container sync | 21:27 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225338/ | 21:27 |
| patchbot | notmyname: patch 225338 - swift - Add thread level concurrency to container sync | 21:27 |
| notmyname | here's my thoughts | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | 1) it would be nice to have this in mitaka, but it's not a requirement | 21:28 |
| notmyname | 2) we know container sync has issues, and the proposed changes do make it better. we've got some people who are dedicated to working on container sync, so if it improves things, even if not perfect, let's land these as soon as possible | 21:29 |
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| notmyname | clayg: acoles: does my point 2 accurately reflect what we talked about in bristol? | 21:29 |
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| acoles | yes | 21:29 |
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| notmyname | ok, good :-) | 21:30 |
| clayg | right on | 21:30 |
| gmmaha | notmyname: i have just started looking into container sync after talking to pdardeau. Would definitely review the patches from eran | 21:30 |
| notmyname | gmmaha: great, thanks | 21:30 |
| clayg | yeah that's awesome! | 21:30 |
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| notmyname | it's rather late for eran and oshrit right now, and it doesn't look like they're online right now | 21:30 |
| jrichli | I will be sure they are aware | 21:31 |
| clayg | notmyname: i'm pretty sure some changes came up like in the last 24 hours or - definately want to loop back again | 21:31 |
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| notmyname | jrichli: thank you | 21:31 |
| acoles | notmyname: i think there is one missing from the sync list - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270961/ | 21:31 |
| patchbot | acoles: patch 270961 - swift - Container-Sync to perform HEAD before PUT object o... | 21:31 |
| notmyname | acoles: ah, yes | 21:31 |
| acoles | oshrit updated a couple of reviews today | 21:32 |
| notmyname | I'll add it to that section | 21:32 |
| notmyname | good | 21:32 |
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| clayg | notmyname: acoles has some ec/ssync related patches too yeah? | 21:32 |
| notmyname | yeah, eran told me there were several patches that had to be re-pushed today. so it looks like that happened | 21:32 |
| acoles | always :) | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | acoles: can we come back to those in just a minute? | 21:33 |
| acoles | notmyname: sure | 21:33 |
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| notmyname | last big group of patches I called out has to do with crypto. here's the plan we have for that... | 21:33 |
| notmyname | we're *not* going to have crypto in mitaka | 21:33 |
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| notmyname | but we'd like to have a reasonably good feature branch by the summit | 21:33 |
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| notmyname | then after the summit, we'll do the integration/merge dance | 21:34 |
| notmyname | ie, we'll have crypto in swift soon, just not in this release | 21:34 |
| notmyname | the patches listed are from jrichli's excellent summary on this etherpad | 21:34 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-hackathon-feb-2016-encryption | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | so after all the other stuff...start getting familiar with what's happening there | 21:35 |
| notmyname | jrichli: acoles: is that an accurate crypto summary? | 21:35 |
| jrichli | sounds good | 21:35 |
| acoles | notmyname: yes | 21:35 |
| notmyname | great | 21:35 |
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| jrichli | we will start working on docs to help with ramp-up/ review | 21:36 |
| notmyname | perfect | 21:36 |
| notmyname | ok, acoles, back to you with ec/ssync patches. what do we need to add to the list for mitaka? | 21:36 |
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| acoles | notmyname: oh, ok, well https://review.openstack.org/232684 would be nice to have and you and torgomatic reviewed once in Bristol | 21:37 |
| acoles | its probably the simplest | 21:37 |
| notmyname | ah, right. yes, I'll look at that again | 21:37 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: will you be able to review that one again? | 21:37 |
| acoles | notmyname: and this is new but hopefully fixes several bugs https://review.openstack.org/293633 | 21:38 |
| acoles | patch 293622 | 21:38 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293622/ - openstack-health - Adjust tooltip position for homepage gauges | 21:38 |
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| acoles | argh, sorry | 21:38 |
| acoles | patch 293633 | 21:38 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293633/ - swift - Put correct Etag and Accept-Ranges in EC 304 and 4... | 21:38 |
| notmyname | those tooltips though | 21:38 |
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| clayg | tooltips are key | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:39 |
| tdasilva | heh | 21:39 |
| clayg | maybe we should review that one... | 21:39 |
| notmyname | right. I saw acoles propose that one this morning. looks pretty important | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | add it to the mitaka list :P | 21:39 |
| acoles | I'd like to see patch 293633 merge if poss because it fixes a tempest test that fails with EC, which would help with our QA, if not others | 21:40 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293633/ - swift - Put correct Etag and Accept-Ranges in EC 304 and 4... | 21:40 |
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| clayg | meh | 21:40 |
| clayg | well.. | 21:40 |
| clayg | i mean - if there's a tempest test | 21:40 |
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| kota_ | if possible, one more EC related patch 282578 | 21:41 |
| patchbot | kota_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282578/ - swift - Set backend content length for fallocate - EC Policy | 21:41 |
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| jrichli | only needs one more +2 | 21:42 |
| kota_ | it has already torgomatic +2 and i'm sure that works but... I'm in the co-author :/ | 21:42 |
| notmyname | so to summarize, here's what I see for mitaka | 21:42 |
| acoles | notmyname: then there is patch 181407 and also optimistic gets patch 215276 but the realist in me says they won't make mitaka | 21:42 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181407/ - swift - EC: Avoid conflicts when ssync'ing fragments | 21:42 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215276/ - swift - Enable object server to return non-durable data | 21:42 |
| notmyname | auditor bug, concurrent gets, ionice, the 304 etag one, EC fallocate, and don't ssync when only .durable is missing | 21:43 |
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| notmyname | I'll update the wiki page after the meeting | 21:43 |
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| notmyname | then, once those are landed, look at copy middleware, container sync, and the few small patches | 21:44 |
| clayg | aww man ec optomistic gets was gunna be awesome :'( | 21:44 |
| clayg | we should merge everything | 21:44 |
| notmyname | and if you still need something to do, I'll call you a liar ;-) | 21:44 |
| kota_ | clayg: agree | 21:45 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:45 |
| acoles | clayg: it'll still be there for newton :) | 21:45 |
| acoles | notmyname: i need something to do | 21:45 |
| notmyname | liar ;-) | 21:45 |
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| notmyname | anything else to bring up for mitaka? (please say no. we've got a lot on our plate already) | 21:46 |
| clayg | bah there's like a week an half - it'll be fine | 21:46 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:46 |
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| notmyname | #topic open | 21:46 |
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| notmyname | I don't have anything else this week. does anyone else? | 21:47 |
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| clayg | i think maybe we should skip the M release - swift is already pretty great - let's just sit this one out | 21:47 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:47 |
| acoles | lol | 21:47 |
| notmyname | lol | 21:47 |
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| notmyname | yeah, but we're making it even better | 21:48 |
| clayg | "what's the sha for the RC?!" "nah, we're good" | 21:48 |
| timburke | hey, we've already got an M release. we're good. | 21:48 |
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| clayg | timburke: oh crap did i get my letters mixed up? | 21:48 |
| clayg | jokes probably less funny when I don't even know what release i'm suggesting we skip | 21:48 |
| timburke | nope. just forgetting about 2.6.0 | 21:48 |
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| mattoliverau | and watch the other project scramble around clogging up the gate. | 21:48 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: yes! | 21:49 |
| clayg | rofl | 21:49 |
| notmyname | in case you missed it an hour or so ago, someone from hubic/ovh was talking about their 10+PB EC cluster (along with their even larger replicated storage) | 21:49 |
| clayg | notmyname: ok, yeah i got nothing | 21:49 |
| acoles | notmyname: i think there is no other business :P | 21:49 |
| notmyname | yet another really cool use case where swift is being used today | 21:49 |
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| kota_ | great | 21:50 |
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| notmyname | thanks, everyone, for helping make swift pretty great | 21:50 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 21:50:31 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-03-16-21.00.html | 21:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-03-16-21.00.txt | 21:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-03-16-21.00.log.html | 21:50 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all | 23:01 |
| thinrichs | Time for the congress meeting | 23:01 |
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| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 23:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Mar 16 23:01:49 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 23:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 23:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 23:01 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs, ramineni, masahito, tsandall: courtesy ping | 23:02 |
| tsandall | here | 23:02 |
| ekcs | hello | 23:02 |
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| thinrichs | Seems like a smaller crew today. | 23:03 |
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| thinrichs | Maybe others are running late. | 23:03 |
| thinrichs | Agenda for today… | 23:03 |
| thinrichs | 1. Congress-related talks at OpenStack | 23:03 |
| thinrichs | 2. PTL nominations are open | 23:03 |
| thinrichs | 3. Status updates | 23:04 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 23:04 |
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| thinrichs | #topic Congress-related talks | 23:05 |
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| thinrichs | There are a number of Congress talks happening at the summit… | 23:05 |
| thinrichs | Thu 28 11:00a - 11:40a | 23:05 |
| thinrichs | Enforcing Application SLAs with Congress and Monasca (fabiog) | 23:05 |
| thinrichs | Thu 28 11:50a-12:30 | 23:05 |
| thinrichs | Congress in NFV-based Mobile Cellular Network Fault Recovery (masahito) | 23:05 |
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| thinrichs | Thu 28 1:30-2:10p | 23:06 |
| thinrichs | Policy Canvas: Draw your policies for OpenStack services (JK) | 23:06 |
| thinrichs | #1 is by fabiog, #2 is masahito, #3 is JK who worked with us before | 23:07 |
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| thinrichs | The 4th talk is on Watcher, which sounds quite similar to Congress but is focused on optimizing resource utilization, instead of policy. | 23:08 |
| thinrichs | Thu 28 2:20-3:00p | 23:08 |
| thinrichs | Watcher a Resource Manager for OpenStack: Plans for the N-release and beyond (Congress sibling) | 23:08 |
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| thinrichs | The interesting thing is that these are all scheduled back-to-back. (Not sure about rooms, but they're all scheduled sequentially.) | 23:08 |
| thinrichs | Just figured we'd all want to have those on our calendars so we don't schedule over them. | 23:09 |
| thinrichs | Questions or comments? | 23:09 |
| thinrichs | BTW you can find all these by searching for Congress on the Austin schedule system. | 23:09 |
| ekcs | Sounds great. | 23:10 |
| thinrichs | Next topic… | 23:10 |
| thinrichs | #topic PTL | 23:10 |
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| thinrichs | PTL elections are open. | 23:10 |
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| thinrichs | I'm happy to talk with anyone who might be interested in running. | 23:11 |
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| thinrichs | I'm running, but if anyone else is interested, please do so. | 23:11 |
| thinrichs | It's overall good for the project to rotate PTLs once in a while. | 23:12 |
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| thinrichs | Or even every cycle. | 23:12 |
| thinrichs | (Some projects have decided to have a different PTL on every cycle.) | 23:12 |
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| thinrichs | Questions or comments? (I'm happy to take them via email or other means as well.) | 23:13 |
| thinrichs | Deadline is soon (don't know when off the top of my head). | 23:13 |
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| thinrichs | Next topic... | 23:14 |
| thinrichs | #topic status updates | 23:14 |
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| thinrichs | I see no code that needs review before we cut a release. | 23:15 |
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| thinrichs | Which is a good sign. | 23:15 |
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| thinrichs | Are there any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed that we know of? | 23:16 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: any on your list? | 23:16 |
| ekcs | No new bugs from me. | 23:16 |
| ekcs | I finally figured out this issue: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258711/ | 23:16 |
| patchbot | ekcs: patch 258711 - congress - [WIP] Strange DSE behavior with publish, publish, ... | 23:16 |
| ekcs | And determined it's does not affect Congress deployment. | 23:16 |
| thinrichs | I saw you made notes. | 23:16 |
| thinrichs | So it's a test issue, not a production issue? | 23:17 |
| ekcs | Right. | 23:17 |
| thinrichs | Phew! | 23:17 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: And you tracked down and fixed the bug we discussed last week. | 23:18 |
| thinrichs | right? | 23:18 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: Right. | 23:18 |
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| ekcs | Thanks for encouraging further investigation when I initially couldn’t reproduce. | 23:18 |
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| thinrichs | Sometimes you just get a feeling based on the kind of error. Thanks for following through! | 23:19 |
| thinrichs | Sounds like it's time for me to do a round of testing. | 23:19 |
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| thinrichs | I'll do that hopefully over the next couple of days and file bugs. If nothing serious pops up, we'll cut the first release candidate and reopen master for non-mitaka code. | 23:19 |
| thinrichs | Sound good? | 23:19 |
| ekcs | Great. | 23:20 |
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| tsandall | sounds good | 23:20 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: any other status update to report? | 23:20 |
| ekcs | No other reports. | 23:21 |
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| thinrichs | tsandall: want to give us a status report? | 23:21 |
| tsandall | sure | 23:21 |
| tsandall | I've been spending most of time reviewing the policy engine implementation and getting a better understanding of the evaluation algorithm, indexing, etc. | 23:22 |
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| tsandall | I had already reviewed the driver architecture a while ago so I was somewhat familiar with that area | 23:22 |
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| tsandall | I hope to start reviewing changes as they come in and providing feedback (although it may be a bit low level while I ramp up) | 23:23 |
| tsandall | ...and I'm looking forward to Austin. | 23:23 |
| tsandall | that's it for now | 23:23 |
| thinrichs | Cool! | 23:23 |
| ekcs | awesome. | 23:23 |
| thinrichs | tsandall: that's definitely the heart of Congress you're looking into | 23:24 |
| tsandall | btw, the new DSE code looks great! | 23:24 |
| thinrichs | We're definitely excited to get the new DSE code in place! | 23:24 |
| clayg | l/wc | 23:24 |
| clayg | sorry | 23:25 |
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| thinrichs | That's it for today from me. | 23:25 |
| thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 23:25 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else to discuss? | 23:25 |
| ekcs | Does anyone have a manual testing “script” (non-automated) that they could share? | 23:25 |
| ekcs | I'd love to see the kind of cases people are testing and let that inform my manual testing which is rather haphazard at this point. | 23:25 |
| ekcs | Not just repeating to exact same tests of course cuz that doesn't do any good. | 23:25 |
| thinrichs | The hands-on-lab is probably a good script | 23:26 |
| thinrichs | I typically focus on breadth of CLI commands, making sure they work and do what I expect. | 23:26 |
| thinrichs | I also try to add a few interesting policy statements, including negation, recursion. | 23:27 |
| thinrichs | I also check that all the datasources can connect. | 23:27 |
| thinrichs | The CLI is running the API itself, so I don't typically feel the need to run API calls directly. | 23:28 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: would you mind testing that the HOL still works (to the extent that makes sense)? | 23:29 |
| thinrichs | Not building another instance of the HOL, but rather just running through the exercise with the tip of master. | 23:29 |
| ekcs | Ok that helps. | 23:30 |
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| thinrichs | The other thing we talked about was fixing up the Standalone install instructions | 23:30 |
| ekcs | I’ve been trying that but ran into some issues with non-congress stuff. I’ll see if I can resolve and continue. | 23:30 |
| thinrichs | We probably don't want to get too hung up on non-congress stuff. | 23:30 |
| thinrichs | What's the basic problem? | 23:30 |
| ekcs | I got stuck setting up the networks the same way the lab had it at starting state. could be a neutron or horizon issue. but i’m not quite sure yet. | 23:31 |
| ekcs | Will revisit. May just adapt the lab exercise to not require the same setup. | 23:31 |
| thinrichs | It's hard to get those networks set up properly. I think we typically do everything from the CLI (not sure if that'll make a difference.) | 23:32 |
| thinrichs | Adapting the lab exercise makes sense. | 23:32 |
| ekcs | i’ll try that. | 23:32 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: maybe I'll try to make a script for the next release | 23:33 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else? | 23:33 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: I noticed you join earlier. Anything to discuss today? | 23:33 |
| bryan_att | Hi, I am at ONS this week, nothing to discuss - very distracted... | 23:34 |
| bryan_att | I'll get back to you next week. | 23:34 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: sounds good. Enjoy ONS! | 23:34 |
| ekcs | Also, this is low-priority, but I figure I'd bring it up because we don't have anything else to discuss anyway. | 23:34 |
| ekcs | I ran through the agnostic performance testing code. There is an issue that some of the queries take a long time on first execution but much faster on subsequent executions. The way the tests are set up, running something multiple times and looking at the total time taken can severely underestimate the first-run time. I may patch that up at some point. | 23:34 |
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| tsandall | just a thought, but the first time queries are run, the indexes are built; subsequent queries would be fast | 23:36 |
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| thinrichs | tsandall: that makes sense | 23:36 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: are you suggesting the tests should be set up so we measure only the first execution? | 23:37 |
| thinrichs | That'd be a worst-case kind of analysis. | 23:37 |
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| thinrichs | Seems valuable to have worst-case as well as more avg-case, which is I guess what we have now. | 23:37 |
| thinrichs | Maybe what we want are some tests that do the first-execution only.. | 23:38 |
| thinrichs | and other tests that do multiple executions. | 23:38 |
| ekcs | Not sure exacty. But maybe report the two separately. First execution. And subsequent execution. | 23:38 |
| ekcs | right. | 23:38 |
| thinrichs | Ideally we'd use these tests so we | 23:39 |
| ekcs | but it really comes down to how we interpret the results. | 23:39 |
| thinrichs | would know when a commit caused a large performance problem | 23:39 |
| thinrichs | Running the perf tests on every commit and rejecting if the test time was much longer than the test without the new code. | 23:39 |
| thinrichs | Maybe non-voting | 23:39 |
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| ekcs | if it’s just difference analysis from commit to commit then it’s not a big issue. But the difference could appear understated. On some of the tests subsequent queries is essentially instantaneous. So if we run it 100 times, whatever difference in first-run performance is / 100. | 23:41 |
| thinrichs | Understood. Makes sense to measure the 2 separately. | 23:41 |
| thinrichs | I was mainly just thinking aloud about what we could use these performance tests to do, further down the road. | 23:41 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else? | 23:42 |
| ekcs | When I do devstack. | 23:42 |
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| ekcs | nova2 never connects. (Not found 404). Haven’t looked much more into it, whether it’s config or whatever. Anyone else see the same? | 23:43 |
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| thinrichs | I haven't seen that yet, but I also don't remember. | 23:44 |
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| ekcs | ok. | 23:45 |
| thinrichs | I'll take a look when I do my testing pass | 23:45 |
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| ekcs | Great. nothing else from me. | 23:45 |
| thinrichs | Me too. Let's quit early and spend the time testing. :) | 23:46 |
| tsandall | cya! | 23:46 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 23:46 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 23:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Launchpad OpenID SSO is currently experiencing issues preventing login. The Launchpad team is working on the issue" | 23:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Mar 16 23:46:27 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-03-16-23.01.html | 23:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-03-16-23.01.txt | 23:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-03-16-23.01.log.html | 23:46 |
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