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| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:00 |
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| thinrichs | Time for the Congress meeting | 00:00 |
| masahito | hi | 00:00 |
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| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 25 00:01:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs, ramineni, pballand: courtesy ping | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | Just a reminder that next week we release the python-client. | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Quick discussion about that and then status updates | 00:03 |
| ramineni1 | hi | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | ramineni1: hi | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | Has anyone tested our python client recently? | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | I haven't. | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | ramineni1: do our tempest tests run the python client? | 00:05 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: it does i guess | 00:05 |
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| thinrichs | If not, I'd say we should do some manual testing before next week. | 00:06 |
| masahito | no. and I think I should update it for push driver. | 00:06 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: do you think the push driver is sufficiently well-tested to expose it through the client? | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | We could always delay the inclusion of the push driver and release a new version of the client in the middle of the cycle | 00:08 |
| masahito | thinrichs: just question. Has python-congressclient a CLI only for well-tested API? | 00:09 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: it does https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress_tempest_tests/services/policy/policy_client.py | 00:09 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: maybe not. | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | masahito: I haven't done ANY manual testing recently, which makes me more nervous about expanding what we expose through the client. | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni1: that's separate code from the python client (it's basically a copy) | 00:11 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: I understand your concern. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | ramineni1: we used to use the python client code directly, but that didn't work with the devstack/tempest plugin | 00:12 |
| ramineni1 | oh, ya, it tests api basically | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | masahito: if you wanted to add the push driver to the client and do some manual testing, that would work for me. | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | masahito: maybe you could test the existing CLI functionality first to make sure there's nothing broken | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | In fact, if we have confidence that the basic system is working, we could branch soon, release Mitaka, and get back to the distributed architecture. | 00:14 |
| masahito | thinrichs: yeah. I should existing CLI test first. and then I try to add it. | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: sounds good. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | The thing we want to do is make sure that once we do testing, we don't get a bunch of changes afterward that would make us retest. | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | So we want master to be fairly stable during testing. | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | What we don't want is to do a bunch of testing, find a bug, and realize that we need to patch it completely differently on master and on mitaka because a bunch of changes went into master since the branch. | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | We want to branch at a point where we don't expect a bunch of changes to come in immediately afterward. | 00:17 |
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| thinrichs | So let's branch once we expect there to be a lull in development on master. | 00:18 |
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| thinrichs | As long as the client is functioning as we expect, we release it next week. Then we pick a slow period to branch master. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | Yes? (Sorry for the rambling.) | 00:19 |
| ekcs | this is for full mitaka release right? | 00:19 |
| ekcs | makes sense. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | Yes the branch is for the mitaka release | 00:20 |
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| ramineni1 | sounds good | 00:21 |
| masahito | it makes sense. | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | #action masahito will update the client to include push functionality and test basic functionality | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | masahito: let us know if you need help with the testing or run into anything that needs fixing before next week's client release. | 00:22 |
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| thinrichs | #topic status | 00:23 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: I'll report a bug in launchpad if I find something strange. | 00:23 |
| masahito | thinrichs: to easy share. | 00:23 |
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| thinrichs | masahito: great. And then ping us if it needs to be fixed before next week. | 00:23 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni1: want to give a status update? | 00:24 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: worked on datasource api model on top of your change | 00:25 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: migration test_congress is pending , i think i need your harness change for doing that | 00:25 |
| thinrichs | How does it look? Does the add/delete datasource functionality in the dse_node do what we need? | 00:25 |
| thinrichs | ramineni1: yeah—I think the harness work and the test_congress work are tied together. | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | ramineni1: Originally I thought the harness couldn't be tested at all until we did the datasource_model. | 00:26 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: ya , | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | but then I realized we could test the harness by having the API talk to the policy engine (create policy, create rules, etc.) | 00:27 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni1: I haven't gotten back to it. But if you want, you could take over that harness work | 00:27 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: for add datasource policy related changes i included in the api itself , as suggested by you in TODO | 00:27 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni1: could you describe more for ekcs and masahito? I think that's something worth discussing. | 00:28 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: ok your change seems to be in pretty good shape right | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | ramineni1: I think my create/delete datasource patch is good. The harness patch might be okay, but it's pretty much untested. | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | (The create/delete datasource will be merged today.) | 00:29 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: ok | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | ramineni1: could you describe for ekcs and masahito the logic that you put into the datasource API that ties the datasources and poicy engine together? | 00:30 |
| ramineni1 | thinrichs: ya,ok | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280509/ | 00:30 |
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| ramineni1 | now, after adding datasource to db , we do couple of things like creating a policy and setting the schema for it. Now, we have moved the policy engine part seperately to API instead of adding it in dse_node | 00:33 |
| ramineni1 | the change is part of above review, please do review and let me know any commnts | 00:34 |
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| thinrichs | It used to be that several things happened all at once: (i) create datasource on DSE, (ii) record datasource in DB, ... | 00:35 |
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| thinrichs | (iii) create policy for that datasource in policy engine, (iv) set schema for that policy | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | Since everything was running in a single process, this was all fine. | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | The tricky bit was making sure that if any of those failed that all of them failed. | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | That tricky bit is now quite a bit harder since all the components are distributed. | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | I think the right first thing to do is in your change ramineni1: put all of that logic into the API. | 00:37 |
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| thinrichs | Longer term we need to figure out if we can avoid all that synchronization between different distributed components in the system. | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | Got it. | 00:38 |
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| thinrichs | Definitely post-Mitaka since for Mitaka we'll only support running in a single process. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | ramineni1: I'll try to review your code after the meeting | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: want to give us an update? | 00:40 |
| ekcs | sure. | 00:40 |
| masahito | ramineni1: ok, I'll check it. | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | On this migrating subhandler, (https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1544126) This patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/281586/ uses heartbeat to give each node and service knowledge of which of its tables have subscribers. | 00:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1544126 in congress "Migrate subhandler to DSE2" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Eric K (ekcs) | 00:41 |
| ekcs | Last step to finish the task is integrate with the (un)subhandler hooks for policy_engine. Should be done tmr or Friday. | 00:41 |
| ekcs | Once that's in, migrating vm_placement should be straightforward. https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1541665 | 00:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1541665 in congress "Migrate the vm_placement policy engine to DSE2" [High,New] - Assigned to Eric K (ekcs) | 00:41 |
| ekcs | On the delta-update task (https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1544139), I'm not sure yet how best to proceed. It's related to the update-sequencing task (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/congress/+spec/dist-datasources-on-bus) and there are some subtle decisions which would take a few tries to get right in distributed mode. Different ways to proceed: 1. First get the delta-update done, delay update sequencing until after | 00:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1544139 in congress "Migrate prepush processor to dse2" [High,New] - Assigned to Eric K (ekcs) | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | Different ways to proceed: | 00:42 |
| ekcs | 1. First get the delta-update done, delay update sequencing until after mitaka. In single process case, sequencing shouldn't be an issue. Drawback is that it's extra work compared to doing the two together. And I'm not positive that sequencing isn't needed for single process. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | 2. Delay everything until after mitaka, but then the mitaka release would send only full tables all the time. Could affect deployability depending on use case. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | 3. Get both delta-update and update-sequencing in before mitaka. Could affect testing and release effort. | 00:42 |
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| thinrichs | It's not clear to me at this point whether we'll switch over to the new DSE by Mitaka. | 00:43 |
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| thinrichs | If we don't switch over by Mitaka, all 3 are the same, right? | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | I think so. | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | Nevermind. Next week is Mitaka3. We're not ready to switch over to DSE2. | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | So for Mitaka, we'll ship with the original DSE. | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | This week and early next let's get our existing changes merged so we can branch middle of next week. | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | We'll do all our testing and release with distributed_arch=False | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | Once we branch, we should all spend some time hammering to make sure we haven't introduced problems with all the code changes | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | we introduced recently. | 00:48 |
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| thinrichs | By hammering I mean testing | 00:48 |
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| thinrichs | spinning up a devstack, and trying to break us | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | (Earlier I was thinking that the client library release date was several weeks before the server release date. That was for the other libraries.) | 00:49 |
| ekcs | Got it. and hold off on merging new dse2 changes during testing? | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | Let's get the couple of changes that are ready to go in merged by this week or maybe Mon/Tue of next week. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | got it. | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | Then hold off on merging til we're pretty sure everything is mostly solid. | 00:51 |
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| thinrichs | Before we run out of time, we need to hear from masahito. | 00:51 |
| thinrichs | masahito: status update? | 00:51 |
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| masahito | I don't have enough time to review codes, so I just push it for launch Congress with distributed_arch=True | 00:52 |
| masahito | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/280793/ | 00:52 |
| masahito | I did some minor fix. | 00:52 |
| masahito | That's from my side | 00:53 |
| masahito | sorry, I couldn't join last 2 meeting because I was out of town. | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | masahito: Are you saying you think that patch is ready to merge? | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | masahito: how risky do you think that change is? | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | masahito: I ask only b/c it is touching a part of the codebase we don't have many tests for. | 00:54 |
| masahito | I think it's not ready. | 00:54 |
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| masahito | not ready for merge. | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | Ok. So hold off on that until after Mitaka? | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | masahito: Shall we wait til after Mitaka to merge it? | 00:55 |
| masahito | because it depends on the patch about migrating harness. | 00:56 |
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| masahito | thinrichs: of course, no problem :) | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | Maybe we should wait on merging the new harness too. Again, few tests there. | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs | Anything else in our remaining 2 minutes? | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | I think we're nearing an end-to-end migration to DSE2, which is really exciting. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | yup! | 01:00 |
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| thinrichs | I'm looking forward to getting the release done so we can finish it off! | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 01:00 |
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| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 25 14:01:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:01 |
| alaski | o/ | 14:01 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | hello all | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Release Status | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| scottda | hi | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | so basically, its crunch time, Feature Freeze is next week | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info Mar 1-3, Mitaka-3 and feature freeze, Final release for client libraries, Soft String Freeze, etc. | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info Looking out for release critical bugs, mitaka-rc-potential | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Regular Reminders | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Regular Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | as we burn down, lets try keep only critical bug fixes and patches in the review etherpad | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | so anyone got any bug things to talk about? | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we do have a nasty gate bug that sdague I think has a fix going through the pipe | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | something to do with ansible versions | 14:03 |
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| * bauzas waves late | 14:03 | |
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| cdent | o/ | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I don't see any critial bugs in the list | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | you know the drill about the other stuff, lets try spot the release critical stuff quickly | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so I have a think about the summit | 14:05 |
| bauzas | about rooms ? | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am thinking we request all fishbowls again for the summit, and a contributor meetup on the last day | 14:05 |
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| edleafe | fishbowls +1 | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | its for the next PTL really, not me, but that needs fixing soon ish | 14:05 |
| jichen | o/ | 14:06 |
| bauzas | well, why not | 14:06 |
| alaski | +1, that's worked well so far | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I think we keep it similar | 14:06 |
| claudiub | o/ | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, when we have laptops open, people start working and stop contributing | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the fishbowl seems to work well | 14:07 |
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| jaypipes | o/ | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | and the working together thing on the friday works well in its own right | 14:07 |
| bauzas | ++ | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I guess folks saw the changes happening post barcelona | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | at least, the changes planned | 14:07 |
| dims | o/ | 14:07 |
| pkoniszewski | o/ | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so one last thing on the agenda | 14:07 |
| mnestratov|2 | o/ | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: you know we're not going to let you *not* be Nova PTL, right? | 14:08 |
| bauzas | heh | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: heh | 14:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I have my slippers ready for my PTL retirement party and everything | 14:08 |
| jroll | johnthetubaguy: fyi the gate fix is through :) | 14:08 |
| dims | you have been conscripted! :) | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | jroll: sweet | 14:09 |
| kashyap | johnthetubaguy: Recommend people to bring printed-out papers with notes to the sessions :-) | 14:09 |
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| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williamtec101113.html | 14:09 |
| jaypipes | kashyap: I'm going to bring powerpoint slides printed out, just for you. | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | kashyap: no bringing weapons into the summit (big rolled up bits of paper that is) | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-nova-api-changes | 14:10 |
| scottda | hi | 14:10 |
| scottda | Just a heads up. | 14:10 |
| kashyap | jaypipes: Heh. (I'm not going to be in Austin. For the next one, as it's in Eu) | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | so cinder is having thinking through things that affect us | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | scottda: yeah, its a good heads up | 14:10 |
| scottda | We've many issues around cinder-nova, ML posts, bugs, IRC discussions... | 14:10 |
| scottda | So, just trying to corral all the work and info in one place. | 14:10 |
| scottda | And go from there. Perhaps some specs, a cross-project spec, etc. | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I did a sort of bad summary on the ML, but I am really only seeing one side of the story right now | 14:11 |
| scottda | I reckon we'll have another cinder-nova meeting in Austin, so this can also be discussed there. | 14:11 |
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| scottda | johnthetubaguy: It's complex and hard to follow it all. So I think the etherpad is part of taming that complexity. | 14:11 |
| scottda | All: Please sign up if you are interested. | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats totally a good effort to start | 14:12 |
| scottda | We might have an alt-meeting of something here and there if there's need. | 14:12 |
| scottda | That's all I have. | 14:12 |
| jaypipes | scottda: will do. :) | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the current live migrate bugs feel a bit like wack a mole right now | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | we fix one set of drivers, and break the others | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | or something like that | 14:12 |
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| scottda | Yeah, I think it needs some high-level thinking. Many of the issues are related. | 14:12 |
| thorst | +1 | 14:12 |
| PaulMurray | o/ | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/087232.html | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | that was my summary attempt, with a nova hat on | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, so we burnt through the whole agenda in 13 mins, mriedem would be proud | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | is there anything else people want to raise here | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | honestly, its time to finish off code, and get our the review glasses, and get all these priority features merged | 14:14 |
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| bauzas | FF planned for next Thurs or earlier ? | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas thats a good question | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | so how this one works is, when we feel like we have as much merged as possible, we cut the branch | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thats usually Thursday morning, in the UK sense of morning | 14:15 |
| bauzas | agreed | 14:15 |
| bauzas | we should maybe provide some blockers | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | generally if something has a +W we let it slip in after the cut, when the gate is busted / full | 14:16 |
| bauzas | if we want to wait for those | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are expecting the gate to be terrible this time, given our lower gate capacity, as I understand it | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: good point, lets add that in the etherpad now | 14:16 |
| bauzas | ack | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | put and things that look like blockers in there ^ | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, thanks all | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | happy code reviewing, with the 40 mins I am about to give you back | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 25 14:18:24 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:18 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-25-14.01.html | 14:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-25-14.01.txt | 14:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-25-14.01.log.html | 14:18 |
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| thomasem | Cheers! | 14:23 |
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| gordc | #startmeeting telemetry | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 25 15:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telemetry)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telemetry' | 15:00 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:00 |
| r-mibu | o/ | 15:00 |
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| liusheng | o/ | 15:01 |
| sileht | o/ | 15:01 |
| ityaptin | o/ | 15:01 |
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| _nadya_ | o/ | 15:01 |
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| nijaba | o/ | 15:02 |
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| gordc | ok let's start, i think some people are on PTO | 15:02 |
| gordc | #topic recurring: roadmap items (new/old/blockers) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Telemetry/RoadMap | 15:02 |
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| gordc | we're basically up for time on features for Mitaka | 15:03 |
| idegtiarov | o/ | 15:03 |
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| gordc | the items we were tracking last week seem to be ok | 15:03 |
| gordc | i'll run through each in the subtopics | 15:03 |
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| gordc | but any pressing concerns? | 15:04 |
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| gordc | m-3 is next week so basically all features now will need to be very very small | 15:04 |
| gordc | cool. let's move to the projects | 15:05 |
| gordc | #topic aodh topics | 15:05 |
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| gordc | right now we're tracking composite alarms for Mitaka | 15:05 |
| gordc | main patch is in | 15:05 |
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| gordc | we just need approval on api and client | 15:05 |
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| liusheng | gordc: thanks | 15:06 |
| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257722/ | 15:06 |
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| gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284022/ | 15:06 |
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| gordc | if we can get reviews and get that merged that'd be great | 15:07 |
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| gordc | has anyone looked at switchig ceilometerclient to aodhclient in heat? | 15:08 |
| liusheng | it seems the jenkins has been broken :( | 15:08 |
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| gordc | liusheng: yeah, it's being fixed | 15:08 |
| sileht | liusheng, gordc I will check that one last time | 15:08 |
| gordc | we have some time next week to merge as well. | 15:08 |
| liusheng | gord, sileht, cool, tanks! | 15:09 |
| gordc | i'll try taking a look at porting ceilometerclient to aodhclient in heat... i'm guessing it won't make it for Mitaka though | 15:09 |
| liamji | liusheng: the problem we found in the our working day is fixed. Now it is the second one :) | 15:09 |
| ildikov | gordc: can we get an exception for it? | 15:09 |
| gordc | ildikov: in heat? | 15:09 |
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| ildikov | gordc: yes | 15:09 |
| gordc | ildikov: i'll give them a ping and see. | 15:10 |
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| gordc | i'm hoping it's an easy swap | 15:10 |
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| ildikov | gordc: me too, this is why I asked | 15:10 |
| gordc | #action see if heat will allow aodhclient FFE | 15:11 |
| gordc | aside from that, i think Aodh is what it is? | 15:11 |
| gordc | r-mibu: did you have success with tempest? | 15:11 |
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| gordc | i believe pradk mentioned whatever we have now is conflicting with what exists in tempest repo | 15:12 |
| r-mibu | you mean running test with plugins? | 15:12 |
| gordc | r-mibu: correct | 15:12 |
| r-mibu | right, so I'll fix the id of test that may fix the bug | 15:12 |
| r-mibu | but didn't check yet | 15:12 |
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| r-mibu | will do by this week :) | 15:13 |
| gordc | r-mibu: do you have time next 2 weeks? | 15:13 |
| gordc | ok | 15:13 |
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| r-mibu | yep, other stuffs done :) | 15:13 |
| gordc | i'm going to make tempest stuff FFE since it's only tests. | 15:13 |
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| gordc | anyone have concerns? | 15:13 |
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| r-mibu | ok | 15:13 |
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| r-mibu | docs... | 15:14 |
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| r-mibu | as you pointed in review | 15:14 |
| gordc | r-mibu: ok. let's try to get it working as soon as possible. but i'm ok with cutting m-3 and merging tempest stuff in an rc build unless someone has an issue | 15:14 |
| gordc | r-mibu: docs for tempest tests? | 15:14 |
| ildikov | I will run a config guide update for Aodh | 15:15 |
| r-mibu | docs for aodh | 15:15 |
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| r-mibu | but, yes, that's not big problem for m-3 | 15:15 |
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| gordc | ildikov: cool cool. thanks for tracking that | 15:15 |
| ildikov | I think we will need to look into the Alarming section of the Admin Guide in OS Manuals | 15:15 |
| gordc | ildikov: defnitely. we can still make changes to docs after m-3 correct? | 15:15 |
| ildikov | I'm not sure how much that part is outdated, so prolly pretty much :) | 15:15 |
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| ildikov | gordc: sure, we have some time during the stabilization period | 15:16 |
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| gordc | ildikov: awesome | 15:16 |
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| gordc | we need to do docs for all of aodh, our dev docs are non-existent too | 15:16 |
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| ildikov | gordc: of course sooner the better, but still we will have a better picture right after m-3 regarding what made it and what to document | 15:16 |
| gordc | ildikov: sounds good | 15:17 |
| gordc | anything else for aodh? | 15:17 |
| llu-laptop | test :( | 15:17 |
| llu-laptop | anyone see me? can't read any messages :( | 15:18 |
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| liusheng | llu-laptop: I can see you :) | 15:18 |
| r-mibu | llu-laptop: i can see your message | 15:18 |
| ildikov | llu-laptop: I see your messages | 15:18 |
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| neelashah | I can see your messages llu-laptop | 15:18 |
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| gordc | and he's gone.lol | 15:18 |
| gordc | let's move on for now | 15:19 |
| gordc | #topic ceilometer topics | 15:19 |
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| gordc | we have two items here to get merged | 15:19 |
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| gordc | ityaptin's patch for minimising nova-api load: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284322/ | 15:19 |
| gordc | i think that needs a docimpact since we added a new optoin | 15:20 |
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| gordc | and liamji's patch for neutron v2: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/277434/ | 15:20 |
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| gordc | r-mibu: same FFE for tempest in ceilometer | 15:21 |
| r-mibu | got it | 15:21 |
| neelashah | gordc neutron v2 is failing due to gate issues? | 15:21 |
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| gordc | we all happy? let's hold off on any other features | 15:22 |
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| idegtiarov | gordc, what about event transformers FFE? | 15:22 |
| gordc | neelashah: yeah, we need to fix a gnocchclient issue first and we should be ok | 15:22 |
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| neelashah | gordc - ok, thanks | 15:22 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: i have some concerns but we can talk about that now | 15:22 |
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| gordc | #topic event bracketer transformer | 15:23 |
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| gordc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266488/ | 15:23 |
| idegtiarov | great what is your main concern? | 15:23 |
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| gordc | i don't understand why latency is an event. | 15:23 |
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| gordc | and why it needs to be calculated inline/stream | 15:24 |
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| gordc | also, the code seems be very inflexible. | 15:24 |
| idegtiarov | it is event that could be published to - - tosamplenotifier:// and will be stored as sample | 15:24 |
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| gordc | idegtiarov: and it has real-time requirement because? | 15:25 |
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| idegtiarov | gordc, if you need to get alarm based for example on latency_time event/sample it is | 15:26 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: quick question about alarms transformer | 15:26 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: events, sorry | 15:26 |
| _nadya_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266488/5 perhaps we can start with instances only in Mitaka? | 15:26 |
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| gordc | idegtiarov: but the alarm scenario is handled by the timeout mechanism in aodh no? | 15:27 |
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| idegtiarov | gordc, as an example we could be interested why instances booting longer then 10 minutes and create alarm for that case | 15:28 |
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| idegtiarov | the main idea is have tool for event transformation and store it as event/sample | 15:29 |
| _nadya_ | can we convert only to samples? I agree that "latency" is mostly about sample | 15:30 |
| gordc | shouldn't timeouts be done by event alarm? | 15:30 |
| idegtiarov | we will can when https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227106/ will be merged | 15:30 |
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| _nadya_ | it looks it's ready to be | 15:31 |
| r-mibu | i agree gordc - alarming logics can be put in aodh rather than ceilometer itself | 15:31 |
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| r-mibu | if creation time of instance can be meter, i'm ok | 15:32 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: yeah. i think it's definitely a measurement. i'm wondering how many measurements it is though. | 15:32 |
| idegtiarov | r-mibu, it is not alarming logic it is logic of event transformation that could be used for statistics of booting instances or alarming based on new samples/event | 15:32 |
| gordc | we will really only have one latency measurement per resource (you can only ever create once) | 15:32 |
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| gordc | is this better as a query feature in events api | 15:33 |
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| gordc | usually that's how most BI tools work. you calculate the data from specific log records | 15:34 |
| idegtiarov | much better as for me because it is rather expensive to index events traits end we already have event_type indexing in mongodb so api requests for new events will be pretty fast | 15:34 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: it is only one for now, right. But we can have latency for many different resources: instances, volumes and so on. In M* we may start with instances only | 15:35 |
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| gordc | is the 'resource' == host? because it doesn't matter how many different resources you'll have, it still just one entry for each instance/volume/etc... no? | 15:36 |
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| gordc | for me, i think this functionality is better as post-storage work, i don't really see the real-time requirement of it. that's my main point | 15:37 |
| ildikov | gordc: I tend to agree with you on this point | 15:38 |
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| r-mibu | adding new logic might affect event processing and having date in workers make difficult in HA/multi-worker | 15:38 |
| _nadya_ | It looks so great to have alarm: "look, your instances start to boot more then 10 minutes" | 15:38 |
| idegtiarov | it is not only about booting time, but for example instances update | 15:39 |
| gordc | so just referencing stacktach and how they were planning to implemented alarms, i believe they also do these calculations in post | 15:39 |
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| gordc | r-mibu: yeah, it definitely complicates stuff having a global cache shared across workers/systems... | 15:39 |
| gordc | although notification agent is/should be smart enough to redirect to common queues. | 15:40 |
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| _nadya_ | dunno, we already have "online" mechanism for transformers | 15:40 |
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| ildikov | _nadya_: the instance booting time issues is more an alert in definition, also I would assume it gets interesting when it happens with all of them not just one | 15:41 |
| gordc | _nadya_: so the alarm comment i believe we want to have it handled by Aodh | 15:41 |
| gordc | you are defining the rule there already. | 15:41 |
| liusheng | IIUC, if we emit measurements on events latency, these measurements sparse in timeline, if we have alarms on these measurements, the state of alarms maybe always "insufficient data" | 15:42 |
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| idegtiarov | ildikov, not only alerts but could be used for statistics of booting vms | 15:42 |
| ildikov | idegtiarov: that can be a post operation/query as well | 15:42 |
| gordc | ildikov: + | 15:43 |
| idegtiarov | not now | 15:43 |
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| idegtiarov | even not with ceilo api | 15:43 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: but it could be, if someone worked on it ;) | 15:43 |
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| ildikov | gordc: +1 :) | 15:43 |
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| r-mibu | idegtiarov: i understand your use case, but it sometimes won't work since we cannot make sure that ceil receive set of start and end message | 15:44 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: store events in time series storage and have post processing? in Gnocchi? | 15:44 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: i had this topic for making events more useful for BI at last summit? i just didn't do anything, so it's kinda my fault (but i won't admit it) | 15:44 |
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| gordc | r-mibu: right, the potential latency in MQ may cause weird results from real-time pov | 15:45 |
| _nadya_ | r-mibu: I hear this very often. But actually, doesn't it mean that we cannot provide a reliable billing? We lose notifications about instances, sorry | 15:46 |
| idegtiarov | r-mibu when we do not receives end event it sould be alarm otherwise we will have and could used if we need such data | 15:46 |
| gordc | _nadya_: i'm not sure if we need gnocchi specifically. gnocchi i think is continuous measurements over time | 15:46 |
| gordc | latency seems to be measurements in set time | 15:47 |
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| r-mibu | i assume for billing purpose operator will check db record as well, otherwise I will boot many instances on that system :) | 15:47 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: so...what storage will be used for events? sql? | 15:47 |
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| ildikov | for billing we usually have some freedom I think regarding messages and it usually does not have to be real-time | 15:48 |
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| _nadya_ | r-mibu: :) | 15:49 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: existing storage: sql/elasticsearch. | 15:49 |
| r-mibu | idegtiarov: yep, and that can be done in aodh + events storage | 15:49 |
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| _nadya_ | let's move on, I see community point here | 15:49 |
| idegtiarov | actually to do the same operation on not indexing data will be a big issue for big event collection | 15:49 |
| gordc | _nadya_: in theory, this should be doable in elasticsearch. | 15:50 |
| gordc | _nadya_: i also believe stacktach offers some mechanisms to handle related events (i don't know status of all that though) | 15:50 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: I don't like it is external, not ceilometer-core. But perhaps I need to think more | 15:50 |
| gordc | what's external? | 15:50 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: that this statistics should be calculated outside ceilometer, in external system | 15:51 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: but we index event_type and all the traits... | 15:51 |
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| idegtiarov | we do not index traits | 15:52 |
| gordc | ceilometer gathers data, normalises and transforms. gnocchi does a lot of stuff 'outside ceiloemter' but it's still our project | 15:53 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/storage/sqlalchemy/models.py#L294 | 15:54 |
| gordc | i don't understand, it seems index'd. it's a primary key | 15:55 |
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| gordc | if not, it should be. | 15:55 |
| gordc | sileht: you have anything for gnocchi? | 15:55 |
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| idegtiarov | gordc, I mean in mongodb | 15:56 |
| gordc | sileht: no backlog. just asking if we can leave gnocchi topics :) | 15:56 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: we probably should? or not use mongodb :P | 15:57 |
| idegtiarov | :P | 15:57 |
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| sileht | gordc, oh I have released gnocchiclient 2.2.0 and I will start working on gnocchi dispatcher for bachting measurements | 15:57 |
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| gordc | tbh, it seems like i'm not the only person who has issues so maybe we should punt it for Mitaka | 15:57 |
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| idegtiarov | o no :( | 15:57 |
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| sileht | idegtiarov, gordc why not having both indexes, the new one and the old one ? | 15:58 |
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| ildikov | gordc: agreed | 15:58 |
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| gordc | idegtiarov: let's move this to main chanell post meeting | 15:58 |
| gordc | #topic gnocchi topics | 15:58 |
| idegtiarov | k | 15:58 |
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| gordc | sileht: i had a question, do we want to make the gnocchi dispatcher use new batching support | 15:59 |
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| sileht | gordc, why not ? | 15:59 |
| gordc | for mitaka? | 15:59 |
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| gordc | i just want to know if we should track it | 15:59 |
| gordc | someone is going to yell soon | 15:59 |
| sileht | I'm a bit lost on where we are on the roadmap | 15:59 |
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| gordc | sileht: :) i'll ask in main channel | 15:59 |
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| gordc | thakns everyone | 16:00 |
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| gordc | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 25 16:00:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-02-25-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-02-25-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-02-25-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
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| rtheis | stevemar: are you available for the OSC meeting? | 19:01 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: yep | 19:01 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: did you want to run it? | 19:01 |
| rtheis | not sure how? | 19:01 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: start by writing #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:02 |
| rtheis | okay | 19:02 |
| rtheis | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 25 19:02:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rtheis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:02 |
| stevemar | \o/ | 19:02 |
| rtheis | that's not too bad | 19:02 |
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| MeganR | o/ | 19:03 |
| stevemar | rtheis: other commands are #topic #endmeeting, etc.. | 19:03 |
| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:03 |
| rtheis | stevemar: any particular order to the meeting? | 19:03 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: i think we go: 1) open reviews, 2) open bugs, 3) open discussion | 19:04 |
| rtheis | #topic reviews | 19:04 |
| stevemar | toss in an argument about when to release | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 19:04 | |
| rtheis | sure | 19:04 |
| rtheis | Any reviews to discuss? | 19:04 |
| stevemar | hmm | 19:04 |
| stevemar | seems like the "create" commands are causing some issues with the networking commands, they just not as easy? | 19:05 |
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| stevemar | i guess delete and show are pretty quick :) | 19:05 |
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| rtheis | yeah, "create" have a lot more items to sort out, but I think they are coming along fairly well now | 19:06 |
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| stevemar | there's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276041/ | 19:07 |
| stevemar | which seems to have gone on for a while now | 19:07 |
| terrylhowe | neutron has a fair number of arrays of dicts, but there is that review out there for that parser action | 19:07 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, that one | 19:07 |
| stevemar | terrylhowe: that's what i just linked :) | 19:07 |
| rtheis | stevemar: yes, that one is holding up a couple create commands | 19:07 |
| stevemar | looks like dtroyer is just about convinced | 19:08 |
| rtheis | I think it is close | 19:08 |
| terrylhowe | yeh | 19:08 |
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| stevemar | i didn't check that one out, but it looks self-explanatory | 19:08 |
| stevemar | there's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276350/ which is going to be a pain | 19:08 |
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| rtheis | stevemar: sorry, but I'm not up to speed on that one. What is the pain point? | 19:10 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: lots of different projects are going to grapple for handling authentication | 19:11 |
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| stevemar | i think we need to rip most of it and just pass along everything to os-client-config | 19:11 |
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| terrylhowe | I foolishly thought the ksa conversion was done | 19:11 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:12 |
| stevemar | terrylhowe: not even close | 19:12 |
| stevemar | terrylhowe: we're still picking up auth plugins from keystoneclient :( | 19:12 |
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| stevemar | terrylhowe: if you want to work on it, go ahead, i think navid is working on other stuff (partly why it's WIP) | 19:13 |
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| rtheis | stevemar: is this something needed for mitaka release? | 19:14 |
| stevemar | rtheis: it would be nice | 19:14 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: but clients aren't really bound to the release, they should be backwards compat | 19:14 |
| stevemar | so meh | 19:14 |
| rtheis | sure | 19:14 |
| rtheis | anything more on this one? | 19:16 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: i also just got added to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284497/ | 19:16 |
| rtheis | stevemar: I'll take a look | 19:17 |
| stevemar | rtheis: cool | 19:17 |
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| stevemar | that's all the reviews from me | 19:17 |
| rtheis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/268907/ | 19:17 |
| stevemar | ah choices | 19:17 |
| rtheis | "choices" ... do we have a devref on how to handle? | 19:18 |
| rtheis | or an unwritten rule on when to use and when not? | 19:18 |
| stevemar | rtheis: i believe we don't use them at all yet | 19:18 |
| stevemar | oh wait... we do | 19:19 |
| stevemar | https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=choices | 19:19 |
| rtheis | I think this could impact some of the network create commands | 19:19 |
| stevemar | rtheis: i think if the API is mature enough, then we go for it. | 19:19 |
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| rtheis | if not then we just leave it to the API to validate? | 19:20 |
| rtheis | so the cli doesn't have to play catch up | 19:20 |
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| stevemar | yep | 19:21 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:21 |
| stevemar | rtheis: but help is much nicer when we have choices | 19:21 |
| stevemar | and validation much faster | 19:21 |
| rtheis | sure | 19:21 |
| stevemar | thats why i say it depends on API maturity | 19:21 |
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| rtheis | ok | 19:22 |
| stevemar | if things hit the fan, we can always whip up a quick patch and release | 19:22 |
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| rtheis | maybe I'll try capturing this in a deverlopers doc update | 19:23 |
| rtheis | think that is worth while? | 19:24 |
| stevemar | rtheis: absolutely | 19:24 |
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| rtheis | #action rtheis write developers doc update for handling choices in arguments | 19:25 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: we should also document all the steps for creating an OSC plugin, theres a lot of tribal knowledge | 19:25 |
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| rtheis | stevemar: do you hold the keys to this knowledge and have time to write something for it? | 19:26 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: i can whip something up over lunch | 19:26 |
| rtheis | cool | 19:26 |
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| rtheis | #action stevemar to document all the steps for creating an OSC plugin | 19:27 |
| rtheis | any other reviews ? | 19:27 |
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| rtheis | #topic bugs | 19:28 |
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| rtheis | any bugs to discuss ? | 19:28 |
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| stevemar | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient | 19:29 |
| stevemar | list of bugs ^ | 19:29 |
| stevemar | wow, 98 | 19:29 |
| stevemar | we need to bring that down | 19:29 |
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| dtroyer | o/ | 19:29 |
| stevemar | eeeek, that's a lot of *new* ones too | 19:29 |
| rtheis | dtroyer: hi | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | sorry for being late…thanks for getting things started rtheis | 19:29 |
| rtheis | yw | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | (i haven't looked yet) how many of those bugs are new single commands? | 19:30 |
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| stevemar | we need a triage day :) | 19:30 |
| stevemar | or week hehe | 19:30 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: a good chunk are the new single commands | 19:30 |
| stevemar | i'm not crazy about using bugs for that, but whatever gets things done | 19:31 |
| rtheis | we may have a dozen that are for new commands | 19:31 |
| dtroyer | maybe we can encourage folk to at least do one per resource? | 19:31 |
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| stevemar | yeah, a bug for pool set and another for pool create seems like overkill | 19:31 |
| rtheis | I updated neutron-client blueprint to request future work to be done via blue print | 19:31 |
| dtroyer | stackalytics? | 19:31 |
| rtheis | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+spec/neutron-client | 19:31 |
| dtroyer | thanks | 19:31 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: you should add rtheis and tangchen to https://launchpad.net/~python-openstackclient-drivers/+members#active | 19:32 |
| dtroyer | thanks for the reminder, I always seem to forget that part | 19:33 |
| rtheis | stevemar: what is the result of being added to that list? | 19:33 |
| stevemar | rtheis: i think you can mark bugs as invalid, incomplete or fix released | 19:34 |
| dtroyer | done | 19:34 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:34 |
| dtroyer | basically, yeah | 19:34 |
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| rtheis | dtroyer: is there a way to pass the meeting chair back to you? | 19:35 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: nope! | 19:36 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:36 |
| dtroyer | no, but it only really matters when it is time to endmeeting | 19:36 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:36 |
| stevemar | oh right, bugs... | 19:36 |
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| dtroyer | you are doing fine though | 19:36 |
| stevemar | none seem critical | 19:36 |
| dtroyer | .me looking through scrollback | 19:36 |
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| rtheis | I don't have any specific bugs to discuss | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | I am digging in to https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1549095 today with John. I don't know yet who exactly broke —os-token though | 19:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1549095 in Ironic "devstack fails while running Ironic grenade job: init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'token'" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to John L. Villalovos (happycamp) | 19:38 |
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| dtroyer | but it attempts to use v2Password when both —os-token and —os-url are present. | 19:38 |
| dtroyer | we have a hard branch for that combo and it is being bypassed | 19:38 |
| dtroyer | part of what I saw in scrollback, I suspect something around o-c-c and it's land grab | 19:38 |
| stevemar | there's https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1535562 also, which thomas usually reports | 19:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1535562 in python-openstackclient "Unit test failure when buildnig debian package for 2.0.0" [Undecided,New] | 19:39 |
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| dtroyer | too many dependencies. we haven't eliminated any yet, only added | 19:40 |
| dtroyer | :( | 19:40 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: yeah, we should look into minimizing things :( | 19:41 |
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| dtroyer | I'd love to be able to drop glanceclient for the SDK, it would take a couple of psinful deps with it | 19:42 |
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| dtroyer | openssl | 19:42 |
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| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:43 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: not so fast! | 19:43 |
| stevemar | rtheis: 6 | 19:43 |
| stevemar | rtheis: ^ | 19:43 |
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| rtheis | stevemar: 6 ? | 19:44 |
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| stevemar | i meant ^ | 19:44 |
| stevemar | rtheis: switch topic :) | 19:44 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:44 |
| rtheis | #topic open discussion | 19:44 |
| dtroyer | oh, right, he has to do that too | 19:44 |
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| dtroyer | It is summit room allocation time again | 19:44 |
| stevemar | fun times | 19:45 |
| dtroyer | we've had one of each type for the last couple of summits…I'm wondering if we need to make any changes? | 19:45 |
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| stevemar | we had 1 of each last time | 19:45 |
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| dtroyer | 1 fishbowl, 1 workroom, 1 meetup | 19:45 |
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| stevemar | i'd love it if the darn workrooms and meetups didn't overlap completely with keystone | 19:45 |
| dtroyer | the meetup is ususally where we meet new folk so I like keeping that | 19:46 |
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| stevemar | i think we need to keep one of each at a minimum | 19:46 |
| dtroyer | keystone is full day on Friday? | 19:46 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: it usually is | 19:46 |
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| dtroyer | ok, for now I'll stay at 1/1/1 | 19:47 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: yeah | 19:47 |
| stevemar | good call | 19:47 |
| dtroyer | there are 23 or 24 projcts looking for space in Austin, wanted to make sure we wanted all three | 19:47 |
| breton | friday is usually slow at keystone, so I'm +1 for it | 19:47 |
| stevemar | rtheis: have you been to a summit before? | 19:47 |
| rtheis | stevemar: I was in Tokyo. | 19:48 |
| stevemar | rtheis: great, so you know all this :) | 19:48 |
| rtheis | hanging out with neutron folks | 19:48 |
| rtheis | :) | 19:48 |
| dtroyer | that is all from me | 19:48 |
| stevemar | you've come to the dark side, splendid | 19:48 |
| stevemar | same | 19:48 |
| rtheis | :) | 19:48 |
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| stevemar | i'm actually ditching early, gotta pick up some food | 19:48 |
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| rtheis | At the neutron meetup now and we discuss transition to OSC | 19:49 |
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| dtroyer | fun times | 19:50 |
| rtheis | we discussed where all of the neutron OSC commands should live ... | 19:50 |
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| rtheis | given the neutron stadium, is it okay to but core neutron in python-openstackclient and advanced services and other plugins have OSC extensions in their projects? | 19:50 |
| rtheis | *put | 19:50 |
| dtroyer | my take is the resources that overlap with the Compute proxy commands need to be in the OSC repo | 19:51 |
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| dtroyer | after that, it is judement. | 19:51 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:51 |
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| rtheis | do we have a problem if something is considered extension and then moves to core... can it move projects ok? | 19:51 |
| rtheis | or will that bring trouble? | 19:52 |
| dtroyer | moving from a plugin into the OSC repo should be easy as long as there isn't a conflict with old plugins still installed | 19:52 |
| rtheis | ok | 19:53 |
| dtroyer | there might need to be an 'empty' plugin released last to clean out the entry point namespaces | 19:53 |
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| dtroyer | but if only some commands move, it is just a sync timing issue at worst | 19:53 |
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| rtheis | sure | 19:54 |
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| rtheis | I don't have anything else | 19:54 |
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| dtroyer | me either, we can close early in nobody speaks up soon | 19:54 |
| dtroyer | rtheis: thanks again for running the meeting | 19:55 |
| rtheis | last call ... | 19:55 |
| rtheis | dtroyer: yw | 19:55 |
| rtheis | #endmeeting openstackclient | 19:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 25 19:55:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-25-19.02.html | 19:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-25-19.02.txt | 19:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-25-19.02.log.html | 19:55 |
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| stevemar | rtheis: you did great :) | 19:58 |
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| rtheis | stevemar: thanks, I was a little nervous :) | 19:59 |
| stevemar | rtheis: hehe, let me know when you want to be tossed in the deep end again | 20:00 |
| rtheis | will do | 20:00 |
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