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ddeja#startmeeting HA08:59
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  8 08:59:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ddeja. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:59
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ha'08:59
ddejaHello all08:59
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masahitoHi08:59
kazuIchikawahi09:00
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bogdandohi09:01
ddejaOk, lets start with a quick status09:01
_gryfhi09:01
ddeja#topic Quick status report09:01
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ddejaMy status: I have prepared two workflows for instance HA, both can be seen on https://github.com/gryf/mistral-evacuate09:02
ddejaFor one of them, I have hit a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/153529509:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1535295 in Mistral "Task with join runs more than once" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Dawid Deja (dawid-deja-0)09:02
ddejaThat's all from my side09:03
ddejamasahito: are you willing to give a report?09:03
masahitoThe patch for enabling masakari to work on pacemaker-remote was merged.09:04
ddejaThat's great09:04
masahitoAnd some bug fixs were also merged.09:04
masahitoThat's from my side.09:05
ddeja#info patch for enabling masakari to work on pacemaker-remote was merged.09:05
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ddejaOk, cool. Anyone else have something to report?09:05
bogdandoI have one announce09:05
beekhof hey guys09:06
masahitobeekhof: hi09:06
bogdandonew ha guide docs time was assigned. Next meeting is at Feb 10, 17:00 UTC, don't hesitate to participate and add agenda items https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/HA_Guide_Update#Next_Meeting09:06
ddejahi beekhof :)09:06
bogdandohi09:06
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ddejaOK, thanks bogdando09:07
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ddejaI think we are done in status reports09:08
ddeja#topic Mistral Workflow for instance HA09:08
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bogdandoShould we open a nova-client bug related to the bug 1535295 as well? Like it shall not throw errors on the second evacuate request arrival?09:08
openstackbug 1535295 in Mistral "Task with join runs more than once" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1535295 - Assigned to Dawid Deja (dawid-deja-0)09:08
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ddejaI think it's an expected behaviour09:09
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ddejaI was rather thinkig about catching the exception09:09
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ddejaas a workaround09:10
beekhofcan i ask how this workflow... works :)09:10
ddejayup, sure09:11
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beekhofeg. when is filter_vm_action.py called?09:11
ddejabeekhof: you are looking at code on master branch, aren't you?09:11
beekhofyep09:12
ddejaok, so let me strart with explaining this workflow09:12
ddejaIt starts with calling nova.servers.list() in nova python client09:12
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ddejanova.servers_list is a wrapper for python client09:12
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beekhofoh, i see the yaml now09:13
ddejathen it calls filter_vm_action09:13
beekhofthis is rather neat09:13
beekhofi can see the attraction09:13
ddejayup, it's very simple09:13
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ddejaRight now I'm thinkig about adding some action that would check if evacuation succeeded09:14
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ddejaalso, if you change the branch, there is another workflow, that separete filtering and asking nova for flavors09:15
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beekhofinteresting09:16
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ddejaI thinks it's better since in approach no 2, there would be less nova calls09:16
masahitothe branch looks changing the workflow depending on the extra_spec.09:16
masahitolooks interesting.09:16
beekhofwhats the advantage of splitting them up?09:16
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ddejamasahito: oh, asking for flavor_extra_spec should also happen in first approach, I'll fix that :)09:17
ddejabeekhof: less calls to nova API09:17
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masahitoI guess it allows admin to define extra_spec attached to evacuated VMs.09:18
ddejamasahito: There are two ways of determing if given VM should be evacuated09:18
ddeja1. It has flavor with extra spec 'evacuation:evacuate' set to True09:19
ddeja2. VM itself has a metadata with 'evacuate' flag set to True09:19
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ddejaI should've write it in repo...09:19
bogdandoddeja, could you please put that to the README as well?09:19
bogdandoyup, read my minds09:20
ddejabogdando: :)09:20
ddejaI'll do it as soon as meeting ends09:20
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masahitoddeja: sounds nice!09:21
bogdandothis looks really simple and neat, indeed. So what do you think about the final solution?09:21
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bogdandolike that PoC + fence agent?09:21
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ddejaSo from my side the most simple scenario is: this workflow + really simple fence agent that only calls Mistral API09:22
bogdandolike to post the YAML?09:23
ddejanot really - yaml file should be loaded first and is in DB09:23
bogdandoah09:23
ddejayou only call it by it's name and provide input argiments09:23
ddejaarguments*09:23
bogdandoI like that idea09:24
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ddeja#action ddeja to write simple fence agent that will call mistral API09:24
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bogdandoand this to be put into the fence topology perhaps09:24
ddejayup09:24
beekhofi like it as the mechanism for performing the evacuation, but i can also see scope for some of the masakari pieces for deciding when to trigger it09:25
ddejabeekhof: yes, Masakari may call the workflow instead of fence agent09:25
bogdandowe could use it as a "fallback fence level", if Mistral fails )09:25
beekhofone thing though... i like the concept, but how well does it handle corner cases?09:25
bogdandoso it may be a topology like that: 1) first try Mistral flow, 2)then try the masakari, 3)fence the node09:26
beekhofthats the key thing09:26
ddejabogdando: you need to have node fenced before you call evacuate09:26
ddejaIt's a post-mortem process, when node is dead09:26
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bogdandoddeja, I see, then it probably cannot fit the classic fence topos09:27
ddejaand we can be sure that there won't be two VMs writing to same storage09:27
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ddejabogdando: It can, we can have fencing topology like 1) fence node; evacuate VMS (call mistral)09:27
ddejabeekhof: Which corner cases do you mean?09:28
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bogdandoat the one level? yes, that should work09:28
beekhofmistral nodes falling over while a workflow is in progress09:28
bogdandothough, I may have forget details09:28
beekhofservices APIs dropping in and out while a workflow is in progress09:28
beekhofetc09:28
ddejabeekhof: That's a problem with Mistral, unfortunetly09:29
beekhofnodes returning while a WFIIP09:29
beekhofexactly09:29
ddejathere is a blueprint for Mistral HA itself09:29
ddejahttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-ha-spec09:30
masahitoddeja: Does Mistral plan to resolve it in Mitaka?09:30
ddejathat should be done for M309:30
beekhofthe design is beautiful, but it comes down to the suitability of mistral itself09:30
ddejaso for Mitaka there would be spec for what needs to be done09:30
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ddejaand for N release mistral team would be working on resolving it09:31
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ddejabeekhof: so asking your question: It is not fully relailable now09:32
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bogdandoDo we have a spec for this initiative, to reflect alternatives and decisions made here?..09:32
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beekhofso the big question for me is: how long until it is, and can we wait that long?09:33
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ddejabogdando: I'm not sure if I understand correctly. Do you mean if we have a spec for using Mistral Workflow for instance evacuate?09:34
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bogdandoddeja just a spec for instance evacuate09:34
ddejaso there is this spec09:34
ddeja#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-ha-spec09:35
ddejanot this one...09:35
ddeja#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257809/09:35
ddejasorry09:35
ddejathis one09:35
bogdandothank you09:35
ddejabut I'm not the subbmiter09:35
ddejabeekhof: I don't know if we can wait that long09:36
bogdandowe can make this cionfigurable, how long to wait and to which option failback09:36
beekhofddeja: i somewhat suspect that too09:37
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ddejacurrent scenario is to have Mistral HA for N relase, so it will be like 8 months09:37
bogdandoassuming 100% reliable things would be a design flaw :)09:37
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bogdandothat is why they use fence topologies AFAICT09:38
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beekhofddeja: TBH, i'd be surprised if 8 months is all that was needed09:38
bogdandoso perhaps we should do the like09:38
bogdandoand think of Mistral flow and masakari as just two fence agents09:38
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bogdandoto co-exist and help each over to cover more fail modes09:39
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ddejabogdando: The problem is that we can, for exmaple call mistral from fence_agent09:40
ddejaand got OK as a reponse09:40
bogdandolet's make fence agent to verify results before rerutning its own OL09:40
ddejabut it only means that Mistral accepted the request09:40
bogdandoOK09:40
ddejaand in fence agents, we can't wait for the result09:40
bogdandoby a given timeout09:40
bogdandoWhy can't we?09:41
bogdandoall agents have things like power timeout to wait for results09:41
bogdandohere is the same09:41
beekhofyou're blocking recovery09:41
ddejabecause fencing frezes the whole cloud, if I remember correctly09:41
bogdandooh, why?..09:41
beekhofwhich might be the bit that is needed for the workflow to complete09:41
beekhof== deadlock09:42
bogdandowell, we could run all evacuate options in parallel in the hope of the idempotance and immutability09:42
bogdandoI mean using both Mistral and masakari based fence agents to ensure results... Makes sense?..09:44
bogdandoAnd leave operators options to decide which agent to go with09:44
bogdandoIt is better to have more options09:44
ddejamaybe it's the way to go...09:45
bogdandoI'm not sure about implementation details, but from design point I see no issues here09:45
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ddejaon the other hand, there was a discussion to use Masakari to call Mistral workflows09:45
bogdandoevacuation request must be idempotent and immutable for any agents acting09:45
ddejasince Mistral is not HA, maybe Masakari can look if evacuation ended succesfully, and if not call Mistral API again?09:46
ddejabut that's just an idea09:46
bogdandogood point as well09:47
masahitobogdando: you means we make notification interface from monitoring process will be same between mistral workflow and masakari.09:47
bogdandomasahito, yes, monitoring should understand competing agents09:47
bogdandoor retries, if agents are kinda "nested" and masakari retries Mistral09:48
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masahitoddeja: just question. Can Mistral execute evacuate action in paralell?09:48
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masahitobogdando: got it.09:49
ddejamasahito: yes. If we have like 5 VMs to evacuate, there would be 5 request running in paralell09:49
bogdandothat was only my point though, we should think of it and suggest to the spec perhaps...09:49
masahitoddeja: thanks.09:50
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ddejamasahito: but to be sure - you call mistral only once. The paralelism is done inside the mistral engine :)09:51
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ddejaOK, I guess with this topic, we have a few minutes for open discussion09:53
ddeja#topic Open discussion09:53
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masahitoI think we should discuss the detail in some where without IRC meeting.09:53
masahitobecause TL will flow.09:54
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ddejamasahito: I agree, but it will be good to wait till aspiers come back from vacation09:55
masahitoddeja: right.09:55
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kazuIchikawaanother topic, we are working on sqlalchemy support of masakari. Is there any database backend you mind to use other than MySQL?09:57
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ddejakazuIchikawa: postgres09:57
_gryfkazuIchikawa, postgresql is also a popular choice09:57
kazuIchikawaddeja: got it09:57
ddejamost of OpenStack deploments is on postgressql or mysql09:57
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ddejaok, we are running out of time09:59
ddejathanks you all for productive meeting and see you next week :)09:59
masahitobye09:59
ddejabye09:59
_gryfcu09:59
kazuIchikawabye10:00
ddeja#endmeeting10:00
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rvasilets_#startmeeting Rally14:08
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  8 14:08:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rvasilets_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:08
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:08
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'rally'14:08
ikhudoshyno/14:08
rvasilets_Hi there14:08
redixinsup14:09
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rvasilets_I see that there is not s lot of topics in Rally agenda14:09
ikhudoshynф сщгзду фе дуфые14:09
rvasilets_okey lets start14:10
andreykurilino/14:10
ikhudoshyna couple at least14:10
ikhudoshynsry14:10
rvasilets_#topic Current state of Rally gate jobs -- testing against Keystone API v2.0 and v314:10
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andreykurilinikhudoshyn: ^14:10
andreykurilin:)14:10
rvasilets_So ikhudoshyn, share with us14:10
ikhudoshynSo I'd like to officially notify everybody that our gate tests that involve devstack..14:11
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ikhudoshynall run against Keystone API v3 (the job file is located @ rally-jobs/rally.yaml) except one dedicated job gate-rally-dsvm-keystone-v2api-rally14:12
ikhudoshynThe latter runs against v2 api and it runs a task from rally-jobs/rally-keystone-api-v2.yaml14:13
ikhudoshynRally-CI is yet untouched14:14
rvasilets_Will we have the problems if devstack default keystone version would be switched?14:14
ikhudoshynwe should agree on whether we'd move it to v3 as well (I beleiwe we should)14:14
ikhudoshyn*believe*14:14
rvasilets_redixin, previously told that he want to move to v314:15
rvasilets_if i'm right14:15
rvasilets_redixin, ^ any comments)14:15
andreykurilinit is not possible for all jobs of rally-ci14:15
ikhudoshynrvasilets_: not really. Default Keystone API version is selected via corresponfding env variable -- exactly what is used on gates14:15
ikhudoshynandreykurilin: y?14:16
andreykurilinmos job can be broken due to keystone v314:16
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andreykurilinbut this is just a guess14:17
ikhudoshynandreykurilin: that's ok -- with mos job we should use what mos uses14:17
redixinI told? o_O14:17
ikhudoshynandreykurilin: it is still v2.0 api, right?14:17
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andreykurilinikhudishyn: as far as I remember - yes14:18
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ikhudoshynso for that job we'd keep 2.014:18
ikhudoshynI actually mean devstack-related jobs14:19
andreykurilin:)14:19
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ikhudoshynrvasilets_: could we action-item this?14:20
ikhudoshynwhat's the command14:20
ikhudoshyn?14:20
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rvasilets_#agreed Leaft mos jobs in rally-ci against v2.014:21
rvasilets_#agreed Left mos jobs in rally-ci against v2.014:21
ikhudoshyn#agreed Move devstack-based jobs in rally-ci to v314:21
rvasilets_Yes, great14:22
rvasilets_Anything else?14:22
ikhudoshynthat's all from my side14:22
rvasilets_okey14:22
ikhudoshynyr turn14:22
rvasilets_#topic About changing coverage script behaviour14:22
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rvasilets_Currently our coverage script unstash stashed files and this is annoying to me14:23
rvasilets_If I finished to work on patch and want just to check coverage and quickly send it to review14:24
rvasilets_trough tox add -u; tox commit --amend; tox review;14:24
ikhudoshyns/tox/git/14:25
rvasilets_I could send to review accidentally stashed files14:25
rvasilets_that is not what I expect14:25
rvasilets_oh yes14:25
redixinit should check diff between your patch and master14:25
rvasilets_git14:25
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rvasilets_we have some magoc in script with stash https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/tests/ci/cover.sh#L2514:26
rvasilets_could we avoid it?14:26
rvasilets_For Example not to гыу stash фе ше?14:27
redixinit can refuse to do anything if there is uncommitted changes14:27
rvasilets_*at it14:27
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ikhudoshynredixin: +1 that would be nice14:27
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rvasilets_Why we can't just to checkout to previous patch and check difference14:28
redixinI just wonder why do you have uncommited changes when calling tox -ecover14:28
rvasilets_because I want14:28
ikhudoshynoh, wait14:28
rvasilets_this is my decision at other patch14:28
ikhudoshynstash - is exactly the place to put uncommitted stuff14:29
redixinwe can't just checkout to master without stashing uncommited changes14:29
redixinbecause it may affect coverage results14:29
redixinand it will14:29
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rvasilets_we could have invariant that you need to run cover only if you commit all changes to this patch14:30
rvasilets_It is more obvious14:30
rvasilets_than current version14:31
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redixinso script should show error instead of stashing?14:31
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rvasilets_for example14:31
rvasilets_or warning before14:31
stpierrei like that -- the stashing functionality seems like hidden magic14:31
ikhudoshynnot sure14:31
ikhudoshynthe right algo would be..14:31
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rvasilets_I suggest to run cover agains patches that don't have stash as invariant14:32
ikhudoshynstash - checkout base - run -checkout yr commit- run - compare - unstash14:32
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rvasilets_and not to touch stash at the script14:32
rvasilets_hi stpierre14:32
rvasilets_Current;y we hacve following invariant that if we have stash that its files from current patch14:33
rvasilets_I suggest to change it14:33
ikhudoshynrvasilets_: that'd be very tough restriction to work process14:34
rvasilets_If we have stash14:34
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ikhudoshynrvasilets_: let's rephrase14:34
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rvasilets_that this is files from not necessarily сгккуте зфеср14:34
rvasilets_*current patch14:34
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ikhudoshynI propose: we don't run cover if there are uncommitted AND unstashed files. And we remove stashing from cover14:35
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ikhudoshynso if you have files you dont want to commit -- you stash it yourself manually and then run cover14:36
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stpierreagree14:36
redixinI can't see any problems here. This script doe's not any stashing if there is no uncommitted changes. If you don't want it to stash, so just stash all by yourself14:37
stpierreless magic, more explicit. i think it's reasonable to expect that precondition to run cover14:37
ikhudoshynredixin: on the contrary. If there are uncommitted changes -- cover stashes them14:37
ikhudoshynthat's the problem14:37
rvasilets_But what I need to do If I have stash from other patch and want to run cover?14:38
ikhudoshynyou can have several stashes. it's ok14:38
rvasilets_I can't  finish my work on other patch immediately14:38
redixinthis script will unstash all for you14:39
ikhudoshynredixin: that's exactly what we try to avoid14:39
ikhudoshynlike, we don't want automagic -- we'd better controll it manually14:40
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redixinit will not unstash all, but only what has been stashed14:40
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redixinok just file the bug14:41
ikhudoshynI change my mind )14:42
rvasilets_uh, okey. redixin looks like this is the most compromise way14:42
ikhudoshynfor me it works fine)14:42
ikhudoshynrvasilets_: just "don't hold it that way"14:42
ikhudoshyn))14:42
rvasilets_Okey14:43
rvasilets_#agreed I will file the bug about coverage14:43
rvasilets_Lets move further?14:43
rvasilets_Anything to add714:44
ikhudoshynrvasilets_: while filing the bug pls add details, so we be sure to get yr point right14:44
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ikhudoshyndo we have any "further" ?14:44
rvasilets_#topic Open Discussion14:44
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rvasilets_Do we have something to discuss?14:45
redixinyes14:45
redixinheat siege workload )14:45
redixincan it be merged?14:46
rvasilets_)14:46
rvasilets_I was working at weekend at the unit tests magic. I should be green now14:46
rvasilets_yep its green14:47
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redixingreat14:47
rvasilets_I'll review it more detailed now I think that the finale vote would be from Boris)14:48
rvasilets_am I right?)14:48
rvasilets_I was needed to add some ceilo tests to pass coverage(14:49
rvasilets_Because All added code was covered at 100%14:49
rvasilets_but coverage was red14:49
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rvasilets_Is it normal that directory work load at the top of plugins?14:50
rvasilets_redixin, ^14:50
rvasilets_at the same level as opensatck and common14:51
rvasilets_Also I noticed that in 62 and 74 heat called from different sources https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272510/30/rally/plugins/openstack/services/heat/main.py14:51
rvasilets_#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272510/30/rally/plugins/openstack/services/heat/main.py14:51
rvasilets_This is shouldn't be the problem14:52
rvasilets_Okey14:52
rvasilets_So I think we could finish meeting?14:52
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andreykurilinyeah14:53
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rvasilets_#endmeeting14:53
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anteayaoh goodness15:16
anteaya#startmeeting third-party15:16
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  8 15:16:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:16
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anteayaI'm late15:16
anteayaso sorry15:16
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anteayahello if you are here for the third-party meeting15:16
anteayaeantyshev: did you want to mention your patch that you are looking for reviews on?15:17
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eantyshevHello! Yes, exactly!15:18
anteayathank you15:18
anteayasorry for being late15:18
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eantyshevanteaya: nothing more from me today15:20
anteayaeantyshev: looks like the patch you were looking to get reviews on got approved15:21
anteaya#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/272123/15:21
anteayacongratulations15:21
anteayasince I was late I'm guessing other folks moved onto other things15:21
anteayaif anyone has anything they want to discuss, do speak up15:21
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lennyb_hi, nothing frmo me either15:22
anteayahey lennyb_15:23
anteayaokay thank you for speaking up15:23
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anteayalennyb_: sorry I was late today15:23
lennyb_I've started to worry :)15:23
anteayayou are welcome to ping me in that case15:23
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anteayarather than waste time worrying15:24
anteayaI just got distracted15:24
anteayaon Monday's this meeting is usually my first thing15:24
anteayabut I was up earlier than usual and got reading the mailing list15:24
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anteayaso much to read15:25
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anteayawell if noone has anything15:25
anteayadoes anyone object to me closing the meeting?15:26
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anteayaoh btw, next week I am at the ops meetup in manchester15:27
anteayaeantyshev lennyb_ are either of you willing to chair next week's meeting?15:27
eantyshevnope15:27
anteayaokay thank you15:27
anteayalennyb_?15:27
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anteayayou can let me know later if you are willing15:28
anteayathank you15:28
anteayasee you later15:28
anteaya#endmeeting15:29
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rakhmerov#startmeeting Mistral16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  8 16:00:42 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
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rakhmerovhi16:01
akuznetsovahi16:01
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rakhmerovanyone else here?16:02
NikolayMhi!16:02
rakhmerovhi16:02
rakhmerovguys, I might not see anyone else because I forgot to send out an email16:03
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rakhmerovbut let's wait a few mins16:03
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rakhmerovStackStorm guys are not coming as far as I know16:05
rakhmerovWinson is on vacation16:05
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rakhmerovtrying to figure out if anyone else is coming16:05
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rakhmerovNikolayM, akuznetsova, do you have anything to discuss?16:07
rakhmerovseems like nobody else is coming16:07
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NikolayMno, nothing from me16:09
akuznetsovarakhmerov, we had to discuss HA gate, let's do it on this week16:09
rakhmerovakuznetsova: ?16:09
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rakhmerovyes, I remember that16:09
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rakhmerovare you willing to start working on it?16:09
rakhmerovand do you have time?16:09
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akuznetsovarakhmerov, firstly I need to understand what we want to have16:11
akuznetsovawithout it I cann't estimate my time16:12
rakhmerovok, no problem16:12
rakhmerovI'll schedule a conversation16:12
rakhmerov#action rakhmerov: schedule a meeting to discuss HA gate with akuznetsova16:12
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rakhmerovok, let's end the meeting16:12
rakhmerovthanks guys16:12
rakhmerov#endmeeting16:12
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matjazp#startmeeting training-guides17:01
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matjazphey all17:01
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matjazpanyone here for the meting?17:02
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matjazpstandard meeting agenda, as it seems17:02
matjazp#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-meeting-agenda17:02
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matjazpok, looks like we'll have to reschedule17:08
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matjazpthere's nothing special to report or discuss17:10
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matjazp#info meeting postponed till next week17:14
matjazp#endmeeting17:14
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adam_g#startmeeting astara18:02
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adam_go/ all18:02
markmcclaino/18:02
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elopezhola..18:03
adam_ghey guys18:04
adam_g#topic mitaka development18:04
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rodso/18:05
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adam_gso we're quickly coming up on mitaka-318:05
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adam_ghoping that we can have any feature work we want in at least up for review this week18:06
adam_give been busy hackng away on the first of a few patches to add HA appliances, which i'll clean up and untag as WIP today or tomorrow18:06
markmcclainawesome18:06
adam_g#link https://review.openstack.org/26726318:06
markmcclainI've been bit a bit sidetracked running down l2pop interaction issues18:07
adam_gon top of that i think we can start layering the appliance configuration components and clustering intelligence18:07
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markmcclainnice18:07
adam_gmarkmcclain, is the BYONF stuff in a state where it can be thrown up onto gerrit?18:07
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markmcclainno.. it's based on old forks... I've got to rebase and cleanup18:08
adam_gah ok18:08
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adam_grods and i chatted last week about posisbly adding some hooks into the management API for viewing worker stats from the outside18:09
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adam_grods, any chance you can file a quick BP just so we have something to track its work toward the release?18:09
rodsadam_g sure18:09
adam_gthanks18:10
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elopezmarkmcclain: what can I do to help with the l2pop issue as I've run into this18:11
adam_ganyone else have anything to report feature-wise? any updates on VPNaaS?18:11
markmcclainelopez: we've got 2 issues18:11
markmcclainonce is how to address for <= liberty and the other is how to fix to mitaka forward18:11
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phil_hI also have l2pop issues running Linux bridge18:12
adam_gokay lets move this to next topic18:12
adam_g#topic bugs18:12
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markmcclainI'm not certain we can properly fix <=liberty without making backward incompatible changes to appliance18:12
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elopezthis will affect Fuel and RDO since they are behind current18:13
adam_gi assume we're talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/astara/+bug/1541864 here ?18:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1541864 in Astara "astara build router using wrong ports" [Undecided,New]18:14
adam_gor is this another issue/18:14
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elopezyes, part of the problem. I ran into a multicast issue as well with vxlan. I think phil_h also hit this issue as well18:15
phil_hThat one seems to be realeted to the neutron address pair bug18:15
adam_gphil_h, bug #?18:16
markmcclainyeah... so that's the bug that kicked off the exploration18:16
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phil_hI believe I  may have found a kernel bug relating to vxlan multicasting18:16
markmcclainI've been leaning towards dividing the bug into small portions18:17
phil_hI will send details off line to eric18:17
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adam_gok. right now we only have 1541864 tracking this in LP. it would be good to at least update that with some triage notes18:18
phil_hcheck out https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/144508918:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1445089 in neutron "allowed-address-pairs broken with l2pop/arp responder and LinuxBridge/VXLAN" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to yalei wang (yalei-wang)18:18
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adam_grods, did you guys have any luck testng https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276875/ ?18:18
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markmcclainphil_h: I'm thinking of submitting a fix for that to address one of the >=mitaka issue18:20
phil_hthe would be good - othewise I cannot get linux bridge to work18:20
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adam_gmarkmcclain, which repos dose this affect? astara, astara-neutron, and neutron?18:25
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markmcclainfor mitaka would impact neutron and release notes for astara18:25
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markmcclainfor liberty and earlier astara-neutron and astara-appliance18:26
adam_gok18:26
adam_gis the bug more than whats captured in https://bugs.launchpad.net/astara/+bug/1541864 or do we need others filed elsewhere?18:26
openstackLaunchpad bug 1541864 in Astara "astara build router using wrong ports" [Undecided,New]18:26
adam_gor is there a neutron bug already for it?18:26
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markmcclainadam_g: yeah need to update and likely why I want to split the bug because it is a series of things18:28
adam_gok, thanks18:28
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markmcclainsome on unique to l2pop and don't impact say vxfld based deployments18:28
adam_g#action markmcclain to add info and split up bug 154186418:29
openstackbug 1541864 in Astara "astara build router using wrong ports" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154186418:29
adam_gthanks. that'd make it easier to track whats going on18:29
adam_gryanpetrello, rods did you guys have a chance to test https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276875/ and see if it addresses the blocking thread issue you saw?18:30
rodsadam_g we deployed a new package with the fix today in the morning18:31
rodslooks good so far18:31
adam_goh, cool18:31
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adam_gill ping you later/tomorrow to see if it solved it. thanks18:31
adam_g#topic open discussion18:31
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adam_ganyone with anything else to bring up?18:32
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elopeznot off hand18:32
markmcclainI'm still working on the patch to remove auto address resources18:32
markmcclainfunctional testing is the last hurdle18:33
adam_goh ya18:33
markmcclainthe routers are going into error state, but I think that might a real bug introduced by the change18:33
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adam_gi messed with that a bit locally on thurs or fri18:33
markmcclainso have to go back and triage it a bit more18:34
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adam_gmarkmcclain, i was seeing issues with our router model, specifically router.ports, with your patch applied + how we create the router in the test suite18:34
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adam_gIIRC it looked liek the make_ports_callback was blowing up when router.ports=[None, None] or something similar18:34
markmcclainok.. I hadn't seen that yet18:35
adam_gi just pulled the patch down and ran the tests, tests failed and saw the tracebacks in the astara logs18:36
adam_gill see if i can reproduce it in the gate18:36
markmcclainah cool18:36
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adam_gok unless anyone else has anything, we can wrap it up18:37
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adam_gok tty later18:38
adam_g#endmeeting18:38
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xgermano/20:59
mesteryo/21:00
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rossella_s1Hi21:00
ZZelle_Avé!21:00
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regXboio\21:00
* mestery pokes armax 21:00
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Sam-I-Amhello21:01
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armaxhello21:01
armax#startmeeting networking21:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  8 21:01:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'21:01
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* mestery thinks if we're using meeting start to count people we're doing it wrong21:02
salv-orlandoaloha21:02
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ihrachysmestery: we are doing it wrong if we count21:02
* njohnston just likes little ASCII people. It reminds me of IRC in 1995.21:02
dasmmestery: ihrachys: stats... stats everywhere21:02
Sam-I-Amhi21:02
armaxthere’s not much on the agenda this week21:02
armaxby the looks of it21:02
russellbhi21:02
dougwigwe could bikeshed the stadium for at least an hour.21:03
johnsomIt is the irc of the 90's....21:03
russellbdougwig: :/21:03
armax#topic Announcements21:03
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armaxWe21:04
armaxare well in the M3 window21:04
armaxas you guys are fully aware21:04
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armaxduring the past two weeks we did a checkpoint on blueprints and RFEs21:04
armaxas it pains me to say, some stuff will have to be removed from Mitaka21:05
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* mestery hands armax a kleenex21:05
russellbS.O.P.21:05
* regXboi calls for the crowbar21:05
armaxI’ll be going over the list this week to see what can reasonably make Mitaka and what can’t21:05
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armaxI would like to remind you that if you are an approver/assignee of a blueprint/rfe21:06
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armaxto work with your peer to get things moving as much as you can21:06
armaxbe proactive21:07
dougwighttps://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/mitaka-321:07
armaxbear in mind21:07
armaxshould stuff gets out of Mitaka, we’ll still allow progress for now21:08
armaxbut any patch that includes a release note will be blocked21:09
russellbso just don't add a release note for your feature?21:09
* ihrachys runs to remove release notes from his patches21:09
dasmrussellb: ++21:09
armaxthat’s funny ah ah21:09
salv-orlandorussellb: if you do that it's not the patch that gets blocked, but the authro21:09
salv-orlandoblocked forever21:10
russellbharsh21:10
salv-orlandophysically blocked21:10
mesterysuper harsh21:10
xgermansend to MN21:10
salv-orlandotexas chainsaw style21:10
xgermanand put in an igloo21:10
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dougwigsheesh, dark meeting today.21:12
russellb(sorry for the interruption)21:12
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mhickeyI thought this meeting was supposed to be "light entertainment"?!21:12
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armaxok21:13
armaxminute up21:13
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armax#topic bugs21:13
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armaxmhickey: we had a discussion on gate stability this week21:14
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armaxon the ML21:14
mhickeyarmax: ok; do you have the thread?21:14
armaxthere are a few gate failure offenderes21:14
armax*offenderes21:14
armaxoffenders!21:15
armax#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085631.html21:15
mhickeythanks21:15
* njohnston thanks everyone for helping him bug deputy last week, especially sc68cal, ajo, and blogan.21:15
armaxso IPv6 is not behaving well in the gate21:15
armaxhaleyb had a patch up to move some of tests to the periodic queue21:16
armaxthat helped21:16
armaxbut I still see failures21:16
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Sam-I-Amnjohnston: you got the fun mtu bugs :)21:16
armaxas a team21:16
armaxwe gotta figure out to keep this list to 021:16
armax#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=gate-failure21:16
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armaxespecially now that we’re going into the busy period of the release21:17
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armaxlinuxbridge has been flaky recently too, and kevinbenton helped on that front too21:18
armaxso I am calling for arms here…anyone interested in IPv6 as well as Linux Bridge, please make sure stability issues are given priority21:18
sc68calI think kevin's patch may have fixed the flakyness. We're at 0% failure for today21:18
armaxotherwise we’ll have to demote this stuff from the gate and let it rot21:18
armaxsc68cal: super kevinbenton strikes again21:18
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sc68calre dropping stuff and letting it rot - then my joke about nobody caring about IPv6 will be shown to be not a joke21:19
sc68calso yeah let's not make my joke come true21:19
armaxmhickey: care to add anything?21:19
ihrachysarmax: what's the linuxbridge one? I miss details. and can work with Andreas on looking into that one. is that the one breaking stable for a while in the past?21:19
mhickeyits njohnston that was the weeks deputy21:19
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mhickeyI am only starting21:20
sc68calihrachys: it was https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276519/21:20
sc68calto get context21:20
armaxihrachys: we saw a surge of failures on the linuxbridge job21:20
armaxihrachys: are you saying that the job is persistently broken on stable branches?21:20
ihrachysarmax: ok I thought that was stable only (haven't seen any on master myself)21:21
ihrachysarmax: no it was actually cured lately I think. not sure how (was traveling the whole week before)21:21
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armaxok21:21
armaxnjohnston: anything you would like to add?21:23
njohnstonarmax: The main LB bug that came was to track to MTU issues (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1542108), the other LB bugs (https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1542923, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1542972), while notable, didn't strike me as gate-busters21:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1542108 in neutron "MTU concerns for the Linux bridge agent" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sean M. Collins (scollins)21:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1542923 in neutron "Linuxbridge agent failed to start when bridge_mappings is given" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq)21:23
openstackLaunchpad bug 1542972 in neutron "linux bridge device processing loop breaks on removals" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton)21:23
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armaxok thanks21:25
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mhickeyarmax: I have 2 to add for today..21:25
armaxmhickey: go for it21:25
mhickeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1543040 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/154309421:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1543040 in neutron "neutron.tests.unit.agent.linux.test_async_process.TestFailingAsyncProcess.test_failing_async_process_handle_error_once failed in Liberty periodic job" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Nir Magnezi (nmagnezi)21:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1543094 in neutron "[Pluggable IPAM] DB exceeded retry limit (RetryRequest) on create_router call" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Salvatore Orlando (salvatore-orlando)21:25
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ihrachysthe 1st is a test only issue and liberty only; just need a backport of an existing fix.21:26
mhickeyihracchys: thanks21:26
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mhickeythe other salv-orlando is looking at21:26
armaxmhickey: thanks21:27
armaxfrom now on let’s be conscious as to what bug fix needs to target M321:28
ihrachysshould we stop merging untargeted fixes? or should we just be informally mindful?21:28
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armaxihrachys: both?21:29
armax:)21:29
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armaxideally we target stuff that we know is gonna hurt the release if it doesn’t merge21:29
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armaxI wonder if rossella_s1’s script is widely used amongst team members?21:30
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dougwigwhat script/where?21:31
ihrachysnot by me, sorry.21:31
armaxdougwig: it’s a script in the repo21:31
armaxunder tools21:31
armaxit generates a gerrit dashboard21:31
hichiharahttps://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/tools/milestone-review-dash.py21:31
armaxthat contains patches targeting release items and high priorities fixes21:32
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armaxhichihara: that’s the one!21:32
armaxhichihara: thanks21:32
hichiharaarmax: :)21:32
armaxany taker for next week deputy duty?21:33
regXboiI thought that was covered last week?!?!21:33
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armaxwe got this week covered21:33
armaxnot the next, I am being proactive!21:33
regXboiah .... I get it now21:33
armaxI drink my own kool-aid you know?21:34
dasmi volunteer21:34
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armaxdasm: cool21:34
mhickeybtw, kudos to njohnston for great steps on starting out as a "green" deputy: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-bug-deputy21:34
armaxdasm: thanks21:34
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mhickeydasm: ++21:35
dasmmhickey: exactly. njohnston ++21:35
ihrachysarmax: I thought rossella_s1 was to cover it?21:35
ihrachysarmax: as per prev meeting.21:35
armaxmhickey, njohnston you may want to turn that into a diff to the devref version of it21:35
armaxhttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/bugs.html#bug-screening-best-practices21:35
armaxI see no reason why we should keep this in two separate sources21:35
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mhickeyarmax: ok, can sync with njohnston biut he did all the good work :)21:36
mhickey*but21:36
njohnstonarmax: Yes sir.21:36
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mhickeynjohnston: :)21:36
armaxthanks folks21:36
armaxihrachys: um, that might have slipped through the cracks, I’ll double check21:37
armax#topic Docs21:38
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armaxbefore I had over to Sam-I-Am21:38
Sam-I-Amhowdy21:38
armaxI would like to state the obvious21:38
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armaxbut a feature is not complete without docs21:39
armaxso if you have something targeted to you21:39
armaxeither as approver or submitter21:39
armaxlook for Docs patches21:39
armaxor don’t forget to submit them/provide support to docs folks21:39
Sam-I-Amand if you don't, you have to deal with me :)21:39
armaxour users will love you for it21:39
russellbor hate you, depending21:40
armaxto this aim, any feature without at least a barebone doc reference will not be signed off as complete for Mitakta21:40
mlavalleSam-I-Am: that's a strong incentive ;-)21:40
Sam-I-Amno docs, no release? :)21:40
njohnstonWhat is the best way to tie those together, given that the changes may be in openstack-manuals or api-guide or cli guide etc?  You can use Depends-On tag to make sure that they don't merge before the primary patch, but there's no way to reverse that association, i.e. see all the docs patches depending on this primary code patch.21:40
armaxMitaka21:40
armaxI’d say we can be lax about this21:41
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armaxbecause tying commis like this can be a bit of a pain21:41
armaxcommits21:41
ihrachys:D21:41
njohnstonok, making sure there wasn't a customary way to do that21:41
Sam-I-Amsome of this might need to be managed in a less mechanical way21:42
armaxbut I’d say before we mark a BP Implemeted or a RFE release we should at least have a doc reference21:42
armaxand we should paste it either on the whiteboard or the bug report page21:42
armaxbear in mind that toda21:42
armaxy21:42
Sam-I-Amwhomever is managing the bp/spec should be able to track completion of all the bits, and feel free to drag me into it if you're not sure what constitutes as usable docs.21:42
Sam-I-Am'how to run this in a devstack all-in-one' is not docs.21:43
armaxpatches that have a DocImpact in the message21:43
armaxwill generate a bug in this list:21:43
armax#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc21:43
sc68calno docs < some docs < good docs21:43
armaxthese bugs can have multiple fixes21:44
sc68calso, even some docs is a start21:44
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armaxeither neutron iself, openstack-manuals, api-site or all of them21:44
* armax hands over the mike to Sam-I-Am 21:44
Sam-I-Amwoo21:44
Sam-I-Amif its developer-oriented docs, it goes into the devref21:44
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Sam-I-Amif an operator would use it, it goes into openstack-manuals in the networking guide at a minimum... possibly api or config-ref if it impacts those things21:45
Sam-I-Amthats more or less the separation between those places21:45
Sam-I-Amtl;dr ... if it involves deployment or how-to-use feature X, throw it in the networking guide21:45
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armaxSam-I-Am: and if you don’t know, ask21:46
Sam-I-Amyeah, pretty much21:46
Sam-I-Amy'all know how to find me21:46
armaxand we’ll happily you wind you up in circle21:46
armaxuntil you get frustrated and move on21:46
dasmone more thing about docs. i asked Anne Gentle about it: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085890.html21:46
Sam-I-Amdecent docs = more adoption of X and less frustration with X21:47
armaxdasm: ok21:47
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Sam-I-Amapi docs will hopefully be easier soon-ish21:47
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Sam-I-Amother than adding to armax's comments, not much from the docs side. still trying to contribute to the networking guide.21:48
armaxSam-I-Am: thanks21:49
Sam-I-Ami know mhickey has something in flight in openstack-manuals21:49
Sam-I-Ami'll try to help out with those things when i can21:49
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mlavalleSam-I-Am: I am also writing a chapter about DNS integration for the networking guide21:49
mhickeySam-I-Am: sure; have review comments to get to thids week21:49
mhickey*this21:50
Sam-I-Ammlavalle: cool21:50
armaxok21:50
armax#topic Open Discussion21:50
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* dougwig opens his paint jars.21:51
mlavalledougwig: lol21:51
* Sam-I-Am subliminally chants fix mtu21:51
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armaxMTU issues was discussed during last meeting, was it not?21:51
ihrachysnot really?21:52
armaxthere’s nothing flagged on the agenda for today’s meeting21:52
russellbi think Sam-I-Am is scarred21:52
Sam-I-Amarmax: bugs are filed now as you asked me to do21:52
salv-orlandoarmax: yeah but dougwig's paint will dry out, and I have my paintbrush ready21:52
Sam-I-Amit'd be really nice to fix it for mitaka21:52
armax8 minutes in not nearly enough to paint anything serious21:52
russellbsalv-orlando: dougwig guys, bikeshedding is debating the color, not actually *doing* the paining.  that's far too productive.21:52
armaxrussellb has a point21:53
* dougwig closes his paint jars. and cries.21:53
sc68callol21:53
salv-orlandowe are practical bike shedders21:53
armaxon that note, I’d rather give you 7 minutes back so that you can go and do something productive21:53
john-davidgeCan we mention #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265041 quickly?21:53
russellblooks like you just did :)21:53
john-davidgeI’d rather not expand the bodged together initiate_gmr() call to every cmd file unless really necessary21:54
armaxjohn-davidge: agreed21:54
ihrachysjohn-davidge: so instead you propose to drop oslo.reports? that's gross.21:54
john-davidgeWould it be teriible to pull out GMR completely and put the burden on the original submitter to fix the problem before we merge it again?21:54
russellbi'd certainly rather not21:54
salv-orlandoI mean is the problem a warning line on the console?21:54
ihrachysyes.21:55
john-davidgesalv-orlando: yes21:55
russellbhaving first hand seeing *HUGE* benefits that the report can provide when trying to debug a bizarre lockup21:55
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ihrachysapparently dibbler relies on scripts not writing anything there21:55
armaxjohn-davidge: is it possible to catch it in the neutron-pd-notify21:55
salv-orlandoah so john-davidge was ironic when suggesting of pulling the whole feature because of this ;)21:55
armaxI mean is there a chance to neutralize the effect of the warning on the client that’s affected?21:55
salv-orlandosorry I thought he was serious for a second21:55
ihrachysjohn-davidge: so, what's the actual deal of having it in each cmd module? yes, it's not ideal, but we failed to find a better way.21:56
russellbsame..21:56
armaxI must admit I am not 100% up to speed to come up with a good answer21:56
john-davidgearmax: Posiibly. I havent found one so far but I could trying digging again21:56
armaxI’d personally rather avoid the sprinkling of method calls the way you did21:57
armaxit’s obviously prone to error21:57
john-davidgeihrachys: It seems to me that there must be a better, single place that we can initiate the logging for GMR iwthout needing to call a function in every single cmd file. But as we both discovered if there is one it isnt obvious :(21:57
armaxcan we ask the guru folks?21:58
ihrachysjohn-davidge: yeah, because for that you need to parse config files and initialize logging21:58
armaxperhaps they have an answer on how to address this No handlers could be found for logger "oslo_reports.guru_meditation_report" error21:58
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armaxthat gets thrown21:58
john-davidgearmax: That would be a great idea, who can we ping about that?21:58
ihrachysarmax: that's a good idea. we can try someone from nova.21:58
armaxsomeone must have stumbled upon it before21:58
armaxdunno21:58
ihrachysjohn-davidge: let's say we start from oslo.reports core folks21:59
armaxgoing in the oslo_reports repo should give you a lead21:59
armaxok time is up21:59
armax#endmeeting21:59
Sam-I-Amyep. thanks everyone.21:59
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openstackMeeting ended Mon Feb  8 21:59:32 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:59
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-02-08-21.01.html21:59
john-davidgeOk, sounds like a plan. Will start a thread on the ML21:59
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-02-08-21.01.txt21:59
armaxthanks for joining21:59
mlavallebye21:59
salv-orlandoI had the same error for the quota engine. It was just a race in initialization.21:59
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-02-08-21.01.log.html21:59
armaxnext week21:59
armaxit’s ihar’s turn21:59
mhickeythanks, bye21:59
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hichiharabye21:59
armaxI am gonna sleep21:59
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salv-orlandoadieuuuu21:59
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dasmthanks, bye21:59
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