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| pballand | hi all | 00:02 |
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| fabiog | hi | 00:02 |
| ramineni | pballand: hi | 00:02 |
| masahito_ | hi | 00:02 |
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| pballand | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 00:03:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is pballand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:03 |
| pballand | thinrichs is running late, so he asked me to run the meeting this week | 00:03 |
| pballand | topic list: | 00:03 |
| pballand | 1. midcycle recap | 00:03 |
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| pballand | 2. distributed arch next steps | 00:04 |
| pballand | 3. mitaka3 | 00:04 |
| pballand | push datasource driver | 00:04 |
| pballand | (4.) | 00:04 |
| pballand | 5. monasca integration update | 00:04 |
| pballand | 6. other status updates | 00:04 |
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| pballand | does anyone have somthing else they would like to cover? | 00:05 |
| bryan_att | hi, Bryan here for the congress meeting | 00:05 |
| pballand | bryan_att: welcome :-) | 00:05 |
| * bryan_att thanks! | 00:05 | |
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| pballand | ok, lets get started | 00:06 |
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| pballand | we had a great midcycle sprint last week | 00:07 |
| pballand | fabiog gracioulsy hosted - thanks for providing the venue and food :) | 00:07 |
| fabiog | pballand: my pleasure | 00:07 |
| pballand | thinrichs sent out a summary to openstack-dev .. I can’t seem to find a web link to it but I’m sure it’s out there | 00:08 |
| fabiog | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-mitaka-sprint | 00:08 |
| pballand | fabiog: thanks | 00:08 |
| pballand | we made a lot of progress, but as thinrichs pointed out in the email, there is still much work to be done | 00:09 |
| pballand | so that brings us to 2.) next steps | 00:10 |
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| pballand | I had a brief chat with tim before the meeting and he is proposing a goal for being on the new architecture by mitaka 3 | 00:10 |
| pballand | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/mitaka/schedule.html | 00:11 |
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| pballand | that gives us only three weeks to knock off remaining features and get to a functional release | 00:11 |
| pballand | the thought is that we can run single-node only to start, but using the new bus in the backend | 00:12 |
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| pballand | that would make customer transition seamless, and give us time to address issues as they arrive | 00:12 |
| pballand | thoughts? | 00:13 |
| ekcs | makes sense! | 00:13 |
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| masahito_ | sounds good. | 00:14 |
| pballand | okay, along with that, the mitaka3 milestone brings a feature freeze, so any new features need to be “in” by then | 00:14 |
| pballand | any questions or comments on the midcycle or distributed arch work? | 00:15 |
| ekcs | question: What is our plan with datasource manager? | 00:15 |
| ekcs | will in continue to exist? | 00:15 |
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| pballand | ekcs: good question - Tim brought that up to me | 00:16 |
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| pballand | originally we had discarded that feature, but it is appealing to maintain it | 00:16 |
| pballand | it doens’t seem like much additional work, since the vast majority of the code could be resused | 00:17 |
| pballand | one issue that came to mind is that oslo.messaging has a deprecation notice about restarting RPC services | 00:17 |
| pballand | it seems like we could easily work around that by spawning new services though (we would probably do that anyway, actually) | 00:18 |
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| pballand | so it seems like we can maintain the same management APIs in the single-node-on-new-bus version | 00:18 |
| pballand | thoughts? | 00:19 |
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| ekcs | i see. at some point i need to understand more the vision for ds maanger in this world. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | for example whether it should be a global ds manager or a per node ds manager. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | doesn’t need to be now. | 00:20 |
| pballand | ekcs: I agree that it can get a bit confusing / error prone for services that aren’t natively multi-node | 00:20 |
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| pballand | I think we can expect the general case to be single-node for now, and tackle the more complicated cases later, fair? | 00:21 |
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| pballand | ramineni: I wanted to give you a chance to chime in with any questions about the midcycle or dist arch since you weren’t able to attend | 00:21 |
| fabiog | pballand: what is the role of the Manager? Is the message filtering task or something else? | 00:22 |
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| pballand | fabiog: I believe the manager ekcs is referring to is the ability to start/stop datasources dynamically | 00:22 |
| pballand | ekcs: did I get that right? | 00:22 |
| ramineni | pballand: sure, thanks :) .. going through all the patches to make myself understand the new arch | 00:23 |
| ekcs | pballand: yes. also just a central place where you ask for schemas and tables and data. | 00:23 |
| fabiog | pballand: ok, got it and the request is initiated by the UI | 00:23 |
| pballand | (sorry for forking 3 conversations) | 00:24 |
| fabiog | pballand: so eventually this can be distributed too | 00:24 |
| pballand | ekcs, right ;thanks | 00:24 |
| fabiog | using the queue as a request/response mechanism | 00:24 |
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| pballand | fabiog: yes, the UI can control datasources; since not all datasources are distribution or HA aware, however, it could cause problems if the operator is not careful in a mulit-node setup | 00:25 |
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| pballand | ramineni: great, just let us know if you have questions, concerns, or suggestions | 00:26 |
| pballand | alright, lets move on | 00:27 |
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| pballand | masahito_: an updates on the push driver? | 00:27 |
| ramineni | pballand: sure | 00:27 |
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| masahito_ | I updated the patch based on previous IRC meeting. | 00:28 |
| masahito_ | 1. remove http_driver out from the patch | 00:28 |
| masahito_ | 2. API request updates its table with request body. | 00:29 |
| masahito_ | All the patch for the push driver is in review now. | 00:30 |
| masahito_ | that's it | 00:30 |
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| masahito_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256303/ | 00:31 |
| masahito_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266347/ | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | Hi all. Sorry I'm late. I caught up on eavesdrop. Please continue. | 00:31 |
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| pballand | masahito_: thanks | 00:31 |
| pballand | all, please take some time to review the patches | 00:32 |
| pballand | (that applies to me too :-P) | 00:32 |
| pballand | thinrichs: do you want take over? I only have one more item | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | pballand: please continue. You've already covered the main thing I wanted to discuss. | 00:33 |
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| pballand | ok, fabiog, you’re up next, can you please give an update on monasca? | 00:34 |
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| fabiog | sure. I managed to get a devstack with both congress and monasca | 00:34 |
| fabiog | actually ceilosca | 00:34 |
| fabiog | which is ceilometer and monasca | 00:34 |
| fabiog | I am also working on getting the monasca client part of the global-requirements | 00:35 |
| fabiog | this week we have a "virtual" Monasca mid-cycle | 00:35 |
| fabiog | so I hope to get that resolved by EOW | 00:35 |
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| fabiog | then I will push a patch that enables the python client so then you can get it working with the current data source | 00:36 |
| fabiog | any questions? | 00:36 |
| fabiog | regarding the alarm notifications | 00:36 |
| fabiog | my understanding is that I have to leverage masahito_ work on the datasource_rpc | 00:36 |
| fabiog | is that correct? | 00:37 |
| fabiog | the alarm will hit the endpoint that calls the rpc in the "monasca_alarm_handling" datasource and update the table | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | fabiog: I think not. | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | We decided you could use the existing datasource functionality to execute actions | 00:38 |
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| fabiog | thinrichs: ah, so I got it wrong | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | So the webhook for the alarm would be something like…. | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | … /v1/data-sources/monasca?execute&action=alarm_notif | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | Then in the monasca datasource driver (or in a separate driver), you'd add the method alarm_notif() and do whatever you need there. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | That's the picture you took of the whiteboard | 00:39 |
| fabiog | ok, I thought that required the push mode | 00:39 |
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| fabiog | so you are saying that the callback is there already | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | (For a while we thought we could use masahito's push driver, but then realized the alarm wasn't strictly pushing data.) | 00:40 |
| thinrichs | So yes the callbacks are already available via the API. | 00:40 |
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| fabiog | thinrichs: and is the payload already passed by default or do I need to have it part of the request URI? | 00:40 |
| fabiog | I am thinking here at the alarm id for instance | 00:40 |
| fabiog | and alarm status | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | I think it's a POST, so you can include arbitrary json in the body of the request. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | I believe that json is passed to the alarm_notif() function as an arg. | 00:41 |
| fabiog | ok, that should make things easy, then | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | Hmm… looks like the data sent to the action might be a little more complicated: | 00:42 |
| thinrichs | {'positional': ['arg1', 'arg2'], | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | 'named': {'key1': 'value1', 'key2': 'value2'}} | 00:43 |
| fabiog | my real constraint is time right now. With the big Cisco conference in Berlin coming up in 2 weeks my time is really constrained, but I would like to at least try to build a scheleton patch | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | fabiog: totally understand. | 00:43 |
| fabiog | thinrichs: but those seems to be query params | 00:43 |
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| thinrichs | fabiog: right—you may just need to make the body of the POST be a dictionary with keys 'positional' and 'named'. I'm not 100% sure that's necessary, but it might be. | 00:44 |
| fabiog | can you post the reference to the code you are looking at, pleasE? | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | #link https://github.com/openstack/congress/blob/master/congress/datasources/datasource_driver.py#L1292 | 00:45 |
| fabiog | thanks | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | pballand: anything else on the agenda? | 00:46 |
| pballand | that was all I have | 00:47 |
| pballand | open floor | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | bryan_att: how are things going for you? Anything to report? | 00:47 |
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| thinrichs | Any questions about how we're migrating to DSE2? | 00:49 |
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| thinrichs | Just saw this tempest failure in the gate…anyone know if this is real? | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | http://logs.openstack.org/34/273734/11/gate/gate-congress-dsvm-api/63f423c/console.html | 00:50 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: i think recheck will do | 00:52 |
| thinrichs | ok | 00:52 |
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| ramineni | thinrichs: pballand: one question | 00:53 |
| ramineni | everytime , in tests we are registering rule-api , row-api as service right? why is that necessary? it will create as rpcserver? | 00:54 |
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| thinrichs | That's an intermediate step. | 00:54 |
| ramineni | API services just interact with rpcclient for invoking server right | 00:54 |
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| thinrichs | We're working on adding all the api models into a single DataService. | 00:55 |
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| thinrichs | Then all of the tests will add that 1 DataService to the DseNode instead of adding rule-api, row-api, etc. as separate DataServices | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | But that's not done yet. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | So until we have 1 DataService node that contains all the api models, | 00:56 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: ok | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | we're adding each of the API models as separate DataServices. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | But this way we can make progress in parallel on (i) migrating API models and (ii) bundling the API models together. | 00:57 |
| ramineni | thinrichs: ohok, got it ..thanks | 00:57 |
| pballand | ok, we’re pretty much out of time | 00:58 |
| pballand | thanks everyone! | 00:58 |
| pballand | #endmeeting | 00:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 00:59:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-02-04-00.03.html | 00:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-02-04-00.03.txt | 00:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-02-04-00.03.log.html | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | Bye | 00:59 |
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| eumel8 | morning | 06:00 |
| Daisy | morning, eumel8 | 06:00 |
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| katomo | good afternoon | 06:00 |
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| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 06:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 06:00:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 06:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 06:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 06:00 |
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| ujuc | hi | 06:00 |
| amotoki | hey, but I am in another meeting | 06:00 |
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| eumel8 | Hi Daisy, Hi katomo | 06:01 |
| Daisy | Hi, eumel8 , ujuc , katomo. | 06:01 |
| eumel8 | hi ujuc :) | 06:01 |
| katomo | hi all | 06:01 |
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| Daisy | we don't have Alex from Zanata | 06:02 |
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| Daisy | let me see if I can get him from #zanata | 06:02 |
| Daisy | he is not here. | 06:02 |
| Daisy | never mind, let's start. | 06:02 |
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| Daisy | #topic statistic data and ATC | 06:02 |
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| Daisy | I see a lot of discussion to the patch. | 06:03 |
| eumel8 | very good work, Daisy. Thx for the stats! | 06:03 |
| Daisy | Thank you guys for the review and help. | 06:03 |
| Daisy | We work together to make it better. | 06:03 |
| Daisy | :) | 06:03 |
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| Daisy | my question is : what's the final goal ? | 06:04 |
| eumel8 | I didn't have time for review yet but will do this later | 06:04 |
| katomo | Stackalytics integration ? | 06:04 |
| amotoki | my question is the workflow of each lang coordinator. | 06:05 |
| eumel8 | final goal are the stats in statalytics, right | 06:05 |
| Daisy | when the program is ready, we can use command line to get the user contribution data. What's next ? what's our plan ? Do we want a regular refresh web paget ? | 06:05 |
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| Daisy | oh. I just think stackalytics is a big project to understand. :) | 06:05 |
| Daisy | amotoki: I didn't get your question. | 06:06 |
| amotoki | Daisy: your patch contains translators list in our repo. | 06:06 |
| Daisy | amotoki: yes. Alex from Zanata said, they will provide API to get a list of contributors for a specific project. | 06:07 |
| amotoki | Daisy: when each coordinator add a new member in Zanata, does he/she need to propose a patch to update the list? | 06:07 |
| Daisy | amotoki: good point. I don't want to maintain such a process. I hope When zanata can provide this API, we get the user list by API invocation. | 06:07 |
| Daisy | the user list in yaml is just a temp solution. | 06:08 |
| amotoki | Daisy: yaml list is good compromise at this point. | 06:08 |
| amotoki | from the discussion so far, email address can be dropped. | 06:09 |
| Daisy | I had spent some time to read stackalytics code. It's a big project. Who want to help to work on the integration with stackalytics ? | 06:09 |
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| katomo | Doesn't stackalytics folks help? | 06:10 |
| Daisy | amotoki: Email is useless for the current program. If we want to integrate with stackalytics, email is the unique ID to aggregate a contributor's all kinds of contributions. | 06:10 |
| eumel8 | don't know about stackalytics - but I want to contribute :) | 06:10 |
| Daisy | katomo: I can ask for help when we have our program ready. | 06:11 |
| Daisy | eumel8: if you know Python, you can help. | 06:11 |
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| katomo | hm, stackalytics is a open source :) | 06:11 |
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| eumel8 | Python basics - will see | 06:11 |
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| katomo | Daisy: maybe, I can help a little | 06:12 |
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| Daisy | ok. Then let's get the simple program ready, and then we move to stackalytics. I can send an email to infra saying we are going to move to stackalytics and ask for help. | 06:12 |
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| Daisy | eumel8 and katomo : maybe we organize another sprint for stackalytics feature ? thoughts ? I really enjoyed the last sprint when we worked together and made progress. | 06:13 |
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| eumel8 | yes | 06:13 |
| katomo | good idea | 06:13 |
| Daisy | ok. so it will spend your another weekend. :) | 06:14 |
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| ujuc | :) | 06:14 |
| Daisy | Let's plan for next weekend. How about the time ? | 06:14 |
| Daisy | maybe too quick. I don't know if you have time to read codes of stackalytics. | 06:15 |
| Daisy | then the weekend on Feb 20th ? | 06:15 |
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| eumel8 | I have no time on 20/21 + 27/28 | 06:15 |
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| Daisy | In March, we will busy with translations, I think. | 06:16 |
| katomo | hm... | 06:16 |
| eumel8 | 5th of March? | 06:16 |
| katomo | 3/5-6 | 06:16 |
| Daisy | ok, how about you, eumel8 ? | 06:16 |
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| eumel8 | yes | 06:16 |
| eumel8 | ok | 06:16 |
| Daisy | ok. then, let's plan for 5th of March. | 06:17 |
| ujuc | ok | 06:17 |
| amotoki | perhaps we cannot join it again | 06:17 |
| Daisy | Thank you. | 06:17 |
| amotoki | we -> I | 06:17 |
| Daisy | amotoki: never mind. | 06:17 |
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| Daisy | so we continue with the simple program, when it is merged, we start the work of stackalytics. | 06:18 |
| Daisy | Thank you. | 06:18 |
| Daisy | another question. Are you OK with the ATC list ? | 06:18 |
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| Daisy | any objections to the ATC list ? any concerns ? | 06:18 |
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| katomo | nothing from me | 06:19 |
| eumel8 | place 8 - not bad :) | 06:19 |
| amotoki | where is the up-to-date ATC list? | 06:19 |
| Daisy | if no, I will send new ATC list to governance. | 06:19 |
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| Daisy | http://paste.openstack.org/show/485750/ | 06:19 |
| amotoki | I noticed reviews only with comment are not counted. | 06:20 |
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| Daisy | ATCs who contributed 300+ words translation till Jan 31th. | 06:20 |
| eumel8 | we can celebrate amotoki as translater of the year :-) | 06:20 |
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| Daisy | We set Jan 31th as the end time. Next cycle, we start from Feb 1st. | 06:21 |
| amotoki | Why do you set the date to Jan 31? | 06:21 |
| amotoki | It does not match the dev cycle | 06:21 |
| amotoki | and translators for Mitaka are not considered as ATC in Mitaka cycle. | 06:22 |
| Daisy | because we need to generate ATC list and prepare the summit tickets to them. Jan 31 is a good time point and I have times to prepare the patch to governance and get the patch merged. | 06:22 |
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| Daisy | And, what's more, Jan 31 is the time when we finish the installation guide transaltion. | 06:23 |
| amotoki | I think we should announce it before cutting the date. | 06:23 |
| Daisy | We translated Liberty horizon and translated installation guide before Jan 31. | 06:24 |
| Daisy | Dev cycle is not suitable for translators. | 06:24 |
| amotoki | horizon translations for Mitaka is considered as Newton contribution :-( | 06:24 |
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| amotoki | at least we should announce it in advance | 06:25 |
| Daisy | Yes, amotoki . Because if some translation team only translate OpenStack dashboard, they will not contribute before the feature freeze of a dev cycle. So the dev cycle is not suitable for translators. | 06:25 |
| amotoki | i don't think it is a good idea to announce what has been done. | 06:25 |
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| Daisy | amotoki: ok. I will announce soon. | 06:26 |
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| Daisy | amotoki: ATC is for 1 year, and the summit ticket is for 6 month. | 06:27 |
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| Daisy | anyway, I will write an email with clear description to ML. Let me think it carefully. | 06:28 |
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| Daisy | next topic | 06:28 |
| amotoki | thanks Daisy | 06:28 |
| Daisy | #topic follow up with translation check website | 06:28 |
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| Daisy | We have the patch to openstack-infra/puppet-translation_checksite. Thank you eumel8 . | 06:29 |
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| Daisy | Email has sent to infra and I see pleia2 answered our questions. | 06:29 |
| Daisy | eumel8: did you read the email from Elizabeth ? | 06:30 |
| eumel8 | yes, thx Daisy for all the support | 06:30 |
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| Daisy | We will have a node with 8GB memory. | 06:30 |
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| eumel8 | Yes, I read the email in the way to work | 06:30 |
| Daisy | Great, eumel8 . | 06:30 |
| eumel8 | I would prepare a patch for site.pp like Elizabeth already mentioned | 06:31 |
| katomo | eumel8, great! thanks | 06:31 |
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| Daisy | so I will work on the admin password protection. | 06:31 |
| eumel8 | I will take a look into the hiera configuration for the passwords | 06:32 |
| Daisy | eumel8: we need a m2m account and API-key to connect the Translation checksite instance to Zanata. | 06:32 |
| eumel8 | yes | 06:32 |
| Daisy | is m2m used for password protection ? | 06:32 |
| Daisy | I think I can get API key for Zanata connection. I know where to get it. | 06:33 |
| eumel8 | no, it's for connect to Zanata API | 06:33 |
| eumel8 | great | 06:33 |
| Daisy | ok. I can work on m2m and API key. | 06:33 |
| eumel8 | this API key comes into hiera and the variables are configured in site.pp | 06:34 |
| eumel8 | this is part of the new patch | 06:34 |
| Daisy | a new patch ? | 06:34 |
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| Daisy | a new patch to which repo ? | 06:34 |
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| eumel8 | last part of Elizabeth's answer | 06:35 |
| Daisy | ok. | 06:35 |
| Daisy | I see. | 06:35 |
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| Daisy | Thank you, eumel8 . | 06:36 |
| Daisy | we can move to next topic then. | 06:36 |
| Daisy | #topic open discussions | 06:36 |
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| eumel8 | for monitoring the service we have to think | 06:36 |
| Daisy | I have proposed a workshop session to Austin summit. We can discuss anything related with translation tools/processes there. | 06:37 |
| Daisy | Then I'm going to have another half day meet up in Austin summit. We can talk about anything in the half day meetup there. | 06:38 |
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| Daisy | anything else for discussion here ? | 06:40 |
| eumel8 | not from my side, thx | 06:40 |
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| katomo | translation priority | 06:40 |
| Daisy | katomo: priority for what ? | 06:41 |
| katomo | #link https://translate.openstack.org/ | 06:41 |
| Daisy | aha. It need to be changed. | 06:41 |
| katomo | passed 2016 January 31 :) | 06:41 |
| Daisy | so next is Horizon. | 06:41 |
| Daisy | agree ? | 06:41 |
| katomo | I propose End User Guide (user-guide) | 06:42 |
| ujuc | horizon end date? | 06:42 |
| katomo | sure, horizon is MUST | 06:42 |
| Daisy | is it ready for translation? | 06:42 |
| Daisy | horizon will be started at the early of March. | 06:42 |
| katomo | Daisy: yes. stable | 06:42 |
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| katomo | Admin User Guide (admin-user-guide) is under reorganize | 06:43 |
| katomo | only user-guide is stable, and it's very useful to users | 06:43 |
| Daisy | katomo: can you write an email to i18n ML for the next document translation proposal ? | 06:44 |
| katomo | Daisy: okay | 06:44 |
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| amotoki | horizon will have various plugins in this cycle. | 06:44 |
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| Daisy | katomo: I want to get broad feedback before I update the home page. | 06:44 |
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| Daisy | amotoki: aha. Can you give us a list ? | 06:44 |
| amotoki | at least, trove-dashboard and sahara-dashboard need to be covered for compat with liberty | 06:45 |
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| Daisy | amotoki: I thought they are not ready for translation. | 06:45 |
| amotoki | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/plugin_registry.html | 06:45 |
| amotoki | this is a plugin list | 06:45 |
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| Daisy | which projects are ready for translation ? | 06:45 |
| amotoki | I don't know which project is required... | 06:45 |
| Daisy | amotoki: ok.. | 06:45 |
| amotoki | I am working but most of them are not ready. | 06:46 |
| amotoki | perhaps trove/sahara/magnum-ui are ready | 06:46 |
| Daisy | amotoki: I can imagine. | 06:46 |
| amotoki | and designate-dashboard | 06:46 |
| katomo | monasca-ui is ready, i know | 06:46 |
| Daisy | so we have more work to do this cycle. | 06:47 |
| amotoki | I think the first priority is horizon and liberty-compat ones. | 06:47 |
| Daisy | what is liberty-compat ? | 06:47 |
| katomo | amotoki: strong agree | 06:47 |
| amotoki | liberty-compat means trove-dashboard and sahara-dashboard | 06:47 |
| amotoki | they were a part of horizon in liberty | 06:47 |
| amotoki | and split out into separate repos in mitaka. | 06:48 |
| Daisy | ok. we translate them in master version? | 06:48 |
| amotoki | trove-dashboard is ready. | 06:48 |
| amotoki | sahara-dashboard is under preparation | 06:48 |
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| Daisy | we need a priority list. | 06:49 |
| Daisy | amotoki: are you the liazon of i18n ? | 06:49 |
| Daisy | in Horizon, I mean. | 06:49 |
| amotoki | perhaps I and doug-fish | 06:50 |
| Daisy | ok. Good to know it is Doug. | 06:50 |
| amotoki | we didn't discuss who is a liaison though | 06:50 |
| Daisy | we need priorities and a project list. | 06:50 |
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| amotoki | for horizon plugin list and priority, i can do it | 06:51 |
| Daisy | Thank you, amotoki . | 06:51 |
| eumel8 | amotoki: can you provide useful entries for this new plugins in local.conf for our devstack installation on the translation checksite? I think we need this | 06:51 |
| amotoki | eumel8: sure. I am working on it | 06:51 |
| eumel8 | thx! | 06:52 |
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| Daisy | great! | 06:52 |
| ujuc | lol | 06:52 |
| amotoki | eumel8: some fixes are required in each repo. they are ongoing | 06:52 |
| Daisy | I think pleia2 doesn't have time to review our patch this week. I hope she can do next week. | 06:52 |
| Daisy | By the way, next week, I may have several day leave. Chinese new years come. I will have some days for big family. | 06:53 |
| Daisy | If you cannot find me in IRC, send me email. | 06:53 |
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| eumel8 | I have in parallel my test installation for translation checksite running and can test things, so there is no preasure | 06:54 |
| ujuc | to same korea... | 06:54 |
| Daisy | ujuc: :) | 06:54 |
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| eumel8 | lucky, we have to work here ;) | 06:55 |
| ujuc | ;) | 06:55 |
| Daisy | It's lucky to work with you, hard worker. :) | 06:55 |
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| Daisy | I'm going to close the meeting now. | 06:56 |
| Daisy | More discussions, go to i18n channel. | 06:56 |
| eumel8 | ok | 06:56 |
| Daisy | Thank you for attending the meeting. Hope you have a nice day. | 06:56 |
| eumel8 | thx all | 06:56 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 06:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 06:56:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-02-04-06.00.html | 06:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-02-04-06.00.txt | 06:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-02-04-06.00.log.html | 06:56 |
| ujuc | :) thx all :) | 06:56 |
| katomo | thanks, all | 06:57 |
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| bauzas | nova meeting, amirite ? | 14:03 |
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| gordc | #startmeeting telemetry | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 15:00:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: telemetry)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telemetry' | 15:00 |
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| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:01 |
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| idegtiarov | o/ | 15:01 |
| _nadya_ | o/ | 15:02 |
| liusheng | o/ | 15:02 |
| sileht | o/ | 15:02 |
| gordc | ok, let's start this | 15:02 |
| ityaptin-tablet | O/ | 15:02 |
| gordc | #topic roadmap items (new/old/blockers) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Telemetry/RoadMap | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roadmap items (new/old/blockers) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Telemetry/RoadMap (Meeting topic: telemetry)" | 15:02 | |
| gordc | reminder: http://docs.openstack.org/releases/mitaka/schedule.html | 15:03 |
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| gordc | feb 29 is d-day | 15:03 |
| jd__ | o/ | 15:03 |
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| gordc | we basically have 3+ weeks before everything must be in | 15:03 |
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| gordc | if there's any pressing items (especially specs) please raise now | 15:04 |
| gordc | i would probably point people to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162167/ | 15:04 |
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| pradk | o/ | 15:05 |
| gordc | this is probably the spec with most design questions | 15:05 |
| idegtiarov | gordc, thank you! want to ask folks to review it | 15:05 |
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| gordc | _nadya_: i assume ityaptin is still working on the polling cache patch? | 15:06 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: yep, he is. Anyway, we've already had POC | 15:06 |
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| _nadya_ | gordc: so it should be not too much work | 15:07 |
| gordc | ack, i will start looking at it soon. | 15:07 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: also, we did some testing. Looks very good. 5 sec polling and no load on Nova API | 15:07 |
| gordc | _nadya_: cool stuff. | 15:07 |
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| gordc | any other items? | 15:07 |
| ildikov | _nadya_: sounds cool \o/ :) | 15:08 |
| llu-laptop | idegtiarov: any reply to the comment on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162167/16/specs/mitaka/events-pipeline-transformers.rst ? | 15:08 |
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| _nadya_ | llu-laptop: regarding multiple agents? | 15:08 |
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| llu-laptop | that and the 'emit' | 15:09 |
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| _nadya_ | llu-laptop: actually, the main idea is to use the cache | 15:09 |
| _nadya_ | llu-laptop: probably, Redis or oslo.cache in general | 15:09 |
| idegtiarov | llu-laptop, we cannot use event-to-sample because we expecting to emit event after transformation not sample | 15:09 |
| llu-laptop | how about put those ideas in the spec? | 15:10 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: ++ | 15:10 |
| gordc | there's a lot of unwritten design eleements | 15:10 |
| llu-laptop | idegtiarov: but in your example listed in spec, it emits sample, not events | 15:10 |
| idegtiarov | llu-laptop, I've done update today please take a look | 15:10 |
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| idegtiarov | no in my spec emit of sample was optional | 15:11 |
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| liusheng | does the event-timeout-alarm proposal depend on this ? | 15:11 |
| _nadya_ | agreed, sorry guys. The reason why we started to work on this again is that several customers asked about that. Looks like, it's a real use case indeed | 15:11 |
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| _nadya_ | I was not sure about this | 15:12 |
| llu-laptop | i'm ok with transformers tansfrom one event to another | 15:12 |
| llu-laptop | but not very convinced for the event transformer to emit samples | 15:12 |
| _nadya_ | llu-laptop: have you seen the example about latency metric? | 15:12 |
| sileht | /query jd__ | 15:12 |
| ildikov | I would assume those samples would actually be statistics | 15:12 |
| llu-laptop | I think emit samples from event is the job of event-to-sample publisher | 15:13 |
| idegtiarov | llu-laptop, agree with you and it seems that I mentioned it in spec | 15:13 |
| _nadya_ | llu-laptop: +1, I thought that the spec about event-to-samples publishing were done mostly for idegtiarov's spec | 15:14 |
| idegtiarov | probably I forgot to remove this option from schema | 15:14 |
| llu-laptop | ok, i might be misguided by the line 65 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/162167/16..17/specs/mitaka/events-pipeline-transformers.rst | 15:14 |
| gordc | idegtiarov: is the requirement that it be done inline rather than post-storage? | 15:14 |
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| idegtiarov | gordc, it done you mean transformation of new event& | 15:15 |
| idegtiarov | gordc, it done you mean transformation of new event? | 15:16 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: sure it may be done in post-storage. the same is true for current transformers. But people use some external storage, transformation-based metrics will be not available | 15:16 |
| gordc | _nadya_: ack. got it | 15:16 |
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| llu-laptop | idegtiarov: b.t.w the url at line 90 is not valid | 15:18 |
| idegtiarov | llu-laptop, thanks will improve | 15:18 |
| llu-laptop | then i'm ok with the spec after you add the descriptiono of multi-agent support :) | 15:19 |
| gordc | ok, let's continue to track spec (anyone feel free to jump in there) | 15:19 |
| gordc | let's run through the projects | 15:20 |
| ljxiash | Hi, we have a spec | 15:20 |
| gordc | #topic aodh topics | 15:20 |
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| gordc | just an announcement, as we had a vacancy... | 15:20 |
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| _nadya_ | ljxiash: could you please send a link? | 15:21 |
| ljxiash | gordc: ok, I can wait. the link is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273475/ | 15:21 |
| gordc | ljxiash: let's revisit when we get to ceilometer topics | 15:21 |
| gordc | Liusheng has stepped up and volunteered to be lead/liaison for Aodh | 15:22 |
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| ljxiash | gordc: :) ok | 15:22 |
| gordc | i'll announce it on list, but basically he'll just be more focused on Aodh and helpe me out tracking bugs/specs against Aodh | 15:22 |
| gordc | thanks Liusheng. | 15:22 |
| llu-laptop | liusheng: thumb up ++ | 15:23 |
| liusheng | yes, I am now sure I can do well, but just want to have a try :-) | 15:23 |
| ljxiash | thumb up | 15:23 |
| _nadya_ | liusheng: cool! | 15:23 |
| ildikov | liusheng: congrats and thanks for taking the responsibility for that module :) | 15:23 |
| liusheng | thanks, need all your helps :) | 15:23 |
| idegtiarov | liusheng, congrats! that is a good news | 15:23 |
| gordc | cool cool. the one other topic i have for aodh, is aodhclient functional tests currently need gnocchi-api to work. does anyone know how get around this? or are we confident unit tests are suffice? | 15:24 |
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| liusheng | idegtiarov, ildikov , _nadya_ llu-laptop thanks | 15:24 |
| liamji | liusheng, congrats | 15:25 |
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| liusheng | liamji: :) | 15:25 |
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| gordc | sileht: ^ since you did gnocchiclient | 15:25 |
| llu-laptop | gordc: personally, i'm not that confident though. | 15:26 |
| llu-laptop | sorry, I misread the info | 15:26 |
| llu-laptop | no opinion on that | 15:26 |
| sileht | gordc, it's really easy to run gnocchi for functionnal | 15:26 |
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| gordc | sileht: i guess the question is do we have an issue that to test aodhclient i need aodh and gnocchi running? | 15:27 |
| pradk | sileht, the aodh api for gnocchi rule expects gnocchi running, i think thats the issue | 15:27 |
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| pradk | sileht, mainly to lookup get_aggregation_methods | 15:27 |
| gordc | or do we create a fall back where if gnocci isn't running aodh will provide a default set of rules | 15:27 |
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| pradk | gordc, rules? or maintain a list of aggregation methods as default? | 15:28 |
| sileht | gordc, pradk to test gnocchi rules I'm afraid that you need gnocchi | 15:29 |
| gordc | right. instead of going to check gnocchi for the potential set of rules. | 15:29 |
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| pradk | gordc, imo to get this client functionality in, if the unit test is validating the client with mocked return values, that is good to get it in | 15:30 |
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| pradk | we can work on functional with gnocchi running subsequently | 15:30 |
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| gordc | sileht: hm. seems like a weird design to check gnocchi for rules but still have aodh know what needs to be in those rules | 15:30 |
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| pradk | yea it would be nice if the aodh api dint enforce gnocchi endpoint | 15:31 |
| sileht | gordc, the fact is that I wouldn't rewrite the query schema validation in aodh | 15:31 |
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| sileht | gordc, so aodh pass the thing to gnocchi to ensure the query written by the user is correct | 15:32 |
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| gordc | sileht: but aodh already knows the rules becaues it already validates the input is correct for the rule | 15:33 |
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| sileht | gordc, no doesn't valid the 'query' field of the rule | 15:33 |
| gordc | but it knows you need threshold and some other fields... | 15:34 |
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| sileht | gordc, I'm talking about the complex structure for searching resource http://docs.openstack.org/developer/gnocchi/rest.html#searching-for-resources | 15:34 |
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| sileht | gordc, this one is valid by gnocchi instead of aodh: https://github.com/openstack/aodh/blob/master/aodh/api/controllers/v2/alarm_rules/gnocchi.py#L125 | 15:35 |
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| gordc | sileht: right. but from aodhclient pov, we already define all the possible gnocchi rules, it's odd that aodh asked gnocchi for rules (https://github.com/openstack/aodh/blob/master/aodh/api/controllers/v2/alarm_rules/gnocchi.py#L62-L69) | 15:36 |
| gordc | not just validating query but validating the rule is actually real. | 15:37 |
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| sileht | gordc, the aggregation function avialable is pluggable in Gnocchi, we can't hardcode the list | 15:37 |
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| gordc | but yeah, i guess if it's validating query part, we need gnocchi no matter what | 15:37 |
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| sileht | gordc, aodhclient is just one possible client | 15:38 |
| gordc | one possible client of aodh? | 15:38 |
| sileht | gordc, I still use curl as client ;) | 15:38 |
| gordc | pradk: i guess we'll need to start gnocchi as well | 15:38 |
| pradk | yea sounds like it | 15:39 |
| sileht | gordc, ceilometerclient is still a client too | 15:39 |
| ildikov | will that be something we maintain longer term? | 15:39 |
| ildikov | I mean the support in ceilometerclient | 15:40 |
| liusheng | sileht: same question | 15:40 |
| gordc | sileht: it still seems weird i hardcode rule in clients and know how to validate gnocchi alarms. but the server itself has no idea how to handle gnocchi alarm and needs connection to gnocchi | 15:40 |
| sileht | gordc, I don't see the issue | 15:40 |
| gordc | ildikov: alarms in ceilometerclient is deprecated (as of aodhclient) | 15:40 |
| gordc | it won't be removed... it's just there. | 15:40 |
| ildikov | gordc: ok, cool, tnx for confirming | 15:41 |
| gordc | sileht: why can't we hardcode it in aodh server since it's already hardcoded in aodhclient? | 15:41 |
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| gordc | sileht: *shrugs* i use client more than curl. :) no biggie | 15:42 |
| sileht | gordc, the rules type can be hardcoded, but the list of aggregation methods must not | 15:42 |
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| gordc | but the rules are based on aggregation_methods? | 15:42 |
| sileht | gordc, and if you want to remove the query validation, we need to duplicate all the validation from Gnocchi into aodh | 15:42 |
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| gordc | we can skip.lol i'm just asking random questions now | 15:43 |
| gordc | any other aodh topics? | 15:43 |
| gordc | #topic ceilometer topics | 15:43 |
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| pradk | gordc, so whats the consensus here? should we proceed without functional tests now and add them subsequently? | 15:43 |
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| gordc | pradk: let's enable gnocchi in aodhclient functional tests too | 15:44 |
| gordc | ljxiash: still there? | 15:44 |
| ljxiash | ye | 15:44 |
| ljxiash | yes | 15:44 |
| pradk | k i'll poke sileht to see how to enable gnocchi in functional tests | 15:44 |
| sileht | pradk, sure | 15:44 |
| gordc | ljxiash: want to discuss your spec? | 15:46 |
| gordc | or you just making people aware of it? | 15:46 |
| ljxiash | yes, I think I should first invite some neutron member to review this spec. | 15:46 |
| _nadya_ | gordc: let me ask neutron folks to take a look | 15:47 |
| gordc | ljxiash: agreed. i don't know enough myself. | 15:47 |
| gordc | _nadya_: thanks! | 15:47 |
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| gordc | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273475/ | 15:47 |
| ljxiash | _nadya_: thank you! | 15:47 |
| gordc | if you understand neutron | 15:47 |
| gordc | ljxiash: my only comment afterwards is try to list what you plan to accomplish this cycle. i'm not sure if we can get it all in (but maybe we can) | 15:47 |
| ljxiash | I really appreciate any help. | 15:47 |
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| liusheng | I have asked a neutron guy to take a look, if he have time. | 15:48 |
| gordc | cool cool. anything else ceilometer related? | 15:48 |
| _nadya_ | liusheng: all neutron team will come. lol | 15:48 |
| gordc | _nadya_: more the better. | 15:48 |
| liusheng | _nadya_: welcome! | 15:49 |
| gordc | #topic gnocchi topics | 15:49 |
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| gordc | sileht: jd__: anything we need to discuss? | 15:49 |
| gordc | 2.0 on hold? | 15:49 |
| jd__ | we don't discuss, we execute | 15:49 |
| llu-laptop | sileht: jd__: one question, i'm working on bug #1518338 of adding new resource types for snmp related metrics, when I see sileht's patches for resource-type-api, should I go on or should I leverage the new dynamic resource type support? | 15:49 |
| openstack | bug 1518338 in Gnocchi "Ceilometer doesn't build the data correclty for Gnocchi when you send hypervisors HW metrics using snmpd and agent-central" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1518338 - Assigned to Lianhao Lu (lianhao-lu) | 15:49 |
| jd__ | yeah we still have some work for 2.0 | 15:49 |
| jd__ | but it should comme soon :) | 15:49 |
| jd__ | llu-laptop: depends if you want it in 2.0 or 2.1? | 15:50 |
| jd__ | llu-laptop: sileht branch is not going in for 2.0 | 15:50 |
| llu-laptop | what's the 2.0 cut date? | 15:50 |
| llu-laptop | and what's the expected date for 2.1? | 15:51 |
| gordc | tbd | 15:51 |
| llu-laptop | :) | 15:51 |
| gordc | and tbd | 15:51 |
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| gordc | i imagine once we get some feedback from testers, we can move forward. | 15:52 |
| gordc | #topic open discussion | 15:53 |
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| llu-laptop | anyone noticed many gate failure today? | 15:53 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: every day | 15:53 |
| gordc | lol is it neutron job? | 15:54 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: i did notice this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1541555 | 15:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1541555 in oslo.messaging "dispatch errors with oslo.messaging 4.1.0" [Undecided,New] | 15:54 |
| gordc | sileht: i didn't start debugging it htough | 15:54 |
| gordc | though* | 15:54 |
| _nadya_ | llu-laptop: I saw a lot of tempest failures about too long notification procession. Is it still happening? | 15:54 |
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| llu-laptop | don't know I just saw a neutron one, and don't know what's going wrong in http://logs.openstack.org/46/273346/8/gate/gate-tempest-dsvm-ceilometer-postgresql-full/96cca2d/ | 15:55 |
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| dims_ | gordc : that one still uses 4.0.0 http://logs.openstack.org/70/274170/3/gate/gate-telemetry-dsvm-integration-aodh/4ef96b5/logs/pip-freeze.txt.gz | 15:56 |
| sileht | gordc, hum interesting | 15:56 |
| dims_ | upper constraints change has not gone in yet | 15:56 |
| gordc | dims_: oh... well it's happening for 4.0.0 then. :) | 15:57 |
| dims_ | :) 4.1.0 is going in as we speak - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276058/ | 15:57 |
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| dims_ | gordc : so you may want to wait a day and blame 4.1.0 :) | 15:58 |
| gordc | ack. i'll keep an eye out to see if anything changes | 15:58 |
| dims_ | gordc : aye aye | 15:58 |
| gordc | anythiing else? | 15:58 |
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| gordc | thanks folks. remember, don't plan for anything to merge last week of cycle becuase of gate flood | 15:59 |
| gordc | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 15:59:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-02-04-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-02-04-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-02-04-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| Sam-I-Am | hello | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | emagana: moo. | 16:01 |
| emagana | Iam here! | 16:01 |
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| emagana | ready.. | 16:01 |
| Sam-I-Am | might be sparse, but we'll give it a shot | 16:01 |
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| emagana | let me start the meeting | 16:02 |
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| emagana | #startmeeting networking-guide | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 16:02:33 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is emagana. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking-guide)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_guide' | 16:02 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 16:02 |
| Sam-I-Am | hello | 16:02 |
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| emagana | we have so far njohnston Sam-I-Am | 16:03 |
| emagana | anyone else? | 16:03 |
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| julen | hey Sam-I-Am: you are also with the general documentation, right? | 16:03 |
| emagana | julen: Sam-I-Am is a core | 16:03 |
| * haleyb is lurking | 16:03 | |
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| julen | I am Julen, by the way, from Hamburg (Germany) | 16:03 |
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| emagana | julen: not Spain? | 16:03 |
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| lwilliams_ | o/ | 16:04 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, i do a lot of core docs | 16:04 |
| julen | well... I am living in Germany now... | 16:04 |
| julen | good! I have many ideas, maybe we can talk about some of them after the important stuff... | 16:05 |
| emagana | #topic announcements | 16:06 |
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| emagana | any announcement? | 16:06 |
| emagana | ok.. moving on | 16:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | nothing here... | 16:07 |
| emagana | #topic action items | 16:07 |
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| emagana | Do we have networking guide reviews out there that need our attention? | 16:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | nope | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | its been pretty quiet | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | i need to do another round of updates to the scenarios | 16:08 |
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| emagana | same here.. I started the debugging section but I haven't pushed anything | 16:08 |
| Sam-I-Am | we also never really came to a conclusion about how to handle provider networks in the classic scenarios | 16:09 |
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| emagana | did we decided to extend the scenarios... it's fuzzy right now | 16:09 |
| emagana | in my mind I meant | 16:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah i think we did | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | its a lot of work, so i want to make sure we're all thinking the same thing before i work on it | 16:10 |
| lwilliams_ | that's what i recall as well... | 16:10 |
| julen | are we talking about the network section on the install guide or about the networking guide? | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | networking guide | 16:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | the install guide is another team | 16:10 |
| emagana | julen: This meeting is focus on the networking guide | 16:10 |
| emagana | Let's take a look to the etherpad. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/networking-guide | 16:11 |
| emagana | I found this work: https://gist.github.com/ssrikant20/c9c9044a1b57844a227d | 16:11 |
| julen | aha.. I thought the networking section of the install guide and the networking guide were somehow linked. As an extension | 16:11 |
| emagana | but seems to be in the wrong format | 16:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | julen: they are somewhat linked - i work on both | 16:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | emagana: what is this thing? | 16:12 |
| emagana | I just got it from the etherpad | 16:13 |
| lwilliams_ | hmm, not sure either | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | oh, thats really weird | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | we dont do things that way | 16:13 |
| emagana | Sam-I-Am: this is what I am calling it out | 16:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | ssrikant: hello? | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | same username resides in here | 16:14 |
| emagana | we should NOT do that.. I will contact Sangeetha Srikanth directly | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, we need to use the regular workflow | 16:14 |
| emagana | #action emagana to contact ssrikant | 16:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | then we can also compare it with existing content | 16:14 |
| emagana | is navinrio around? | 16:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | guess not | 16:15 |
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| emagana | ok.. for the new members.. could you help on any of the topics in the etherpad? | 16:16 |
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| emagana | looking at julen and lwilliams_ :-) | 16:16 |
| lwilliams_ | :) i will take a closer look at some of the overview sections and see where i can help. | 16:17 |
| julen | which ones? | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | most of the work needs to be done in the intro/config sections | 16:17 |
| emagana | we would like to complete section marked as (H) High and (M) at least | 16:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | the scenarios are pretty good right now | 16:17 |
| lwilliams_ | ok | 16:17 |
| emagana | I have to admit that I am way late on my sections but will deliver no matter what | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | emagana: join the club | 16:18 |
| emagana | so many things going on.. | 16:18 |
| Sam-I-Am | emagana: running 'sorted' on my list of to-dos returns the same list | 16:18 |
| emagana | not sure if you got the email but I was invited to join the User Committee | 16:19 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sorted by priority, that is | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | its always fires | 16:19 |
| Sam-I-Am | i didnt see that | 16:19 |
| emagana | ok. let's move on.. | 16:19 |
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| emagana | Sam-I-Am: Do you want to discuss? | 16:20 |
| emagana | sorry... hit enter before time.. | 16:20 |
| emagana | I meant if you have something to discuss with the team? | 16:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | not really. just always looking for more contributors. | 16:20 |
| Sam-I-Am | maintaining the guide is not easy | 16:21 |
| julen | emagana: I might not be able to take care of any of the points completely by myself, but I can help on adding stuff, or some useful picture... | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | and it still lacks a lot of stuff | 16:21 |
| emagana | julen: That is great, please add you name to the sections in the etherpad | 16:21 |
| Sam-I-Am | and more than one person can be on a topic in the etherpad | 16:21 |
| emagana | we have fews weeks before M-3 | 16:21 |
| emagana | which is first week of March | 16:22 |
| julen | can I just write some draft or comments? | 16:22 |
| julen | that's good | 16:22 |
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| emagana | let's target draft of those section at least | 16:22 |
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| emagana | julen: yes, feel free to push things directly to gerrit and we will review | 16:22 |
| emagana | you can add us as reviewers | 16:22 |
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| julen | just to clarify: so, the install guide provides instructions on how to set up each and every component of openstack, and the networking guide is meant to provide a deeper understanding of all the involved concepts. Right? | 16:23 |
| julen | so, sort of "the neutron manual" | 16:23 |
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| emagana | correct | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | julen: yeah | 16:24 |
| julen | good | 16:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the install guide is the "easy path" | 16:24 |
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| Sam-I-Am | its the quickest way to deploy a working stack while learning how all the things work | 16:24 |
| Sam-I-Am | its just one way | 16:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the networking guide is aimed more toward operators who want to deploy more complex networking | 16:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | but also provides intro material to cover the gap between physical and virtual networks | 16:25 |
| Sam-I-Am | networking is probably the hardest thing for most people to understand | 16:25 |
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| Sam-I-Am | eventually we may integrate the networking guide with the admin guide, but right now its independent | 16:26 |
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| emagana | let's move on | 16:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 16:27 |
| emagana | #topic open discussion | 16:27 |
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| julen | hmm... so, if I want to bring up a topic about the networking section of the install guide, this wouldn't be the right place... right? | 16:27 |
| Sam-I-Am | nope | 16:27 |
| emagana | julen go ahead | 16:27 |
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| julen | ok, I'll try, and if it is not the right place, I'll explain again in somewhere else | 16:28 |
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| emagana | the floor is yours | 16:29 |
| julen | so... long story short: I have an BASH version of the install guide but although I follow everything step by step, it still has some little issue | 16:29 |
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| julen | this is called BOMSI, and I already introduced it very shortly on the last summit in tokyo | 16:30 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok... | 16:30 |
| Sam-I-Am | the training guide folks also maintain shell scripts for the install guide | 16:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | they call it osbash | 16:31 |
| julen | the thing is: BOMSI might be a good way to test the install guide, as the code includes exactly, line by line the commands in the documentation | 16:31 |
| julen | really? | 16:31 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep | 16:31 |
| julen | never heard about it.. | 16:31 |
| julen | but this one is based on ISO... | 16:31 |
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| julen | and it is multinode... | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | so is theirs | 16:32 |
| julen | hmm.. I have to check that code | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | but anyway, we've discussed testing via script... the problem is making sure the script and docs align for each release | 16:32 |
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| Sam-I-Am | part of the install guide is doing every step manually | 16:32 |
| Sam-I-Am | and there's a reason for it | 16:33 |
| emagana | in my opinion as a operator, I will NEVER deploy anything that I want in production using bash scripts | 16:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | emagana: well, no, however... | 16:33 |
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| emagana | they are hard to maintain and they do not provide a repeatable way to deploy a cluster consistently | 16:33 |
| Sam-I-Am | the next steps after a manual install are learning how to automate deployment | 16:34 |
| julen | hmm.. but what is the reason not to force to do some steps manually? | 16:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | julen: the install guide is a learning experience | 16:34 |
| Sam-I-Am | there are much better ways to automate installs - like puppet | 16:34 |
| emagana | Sam-I-Am: We have Salt, Ansible, Puppet and Chef project for that | 16:34 |
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| Sam-I-Am | point is, too many people dive into automation first and then assume "things work" ... without really learning how openstacks works | 16:35 |
| julen | sure.. but you don't follow the guide step by step... | 16:35 |
| emagana | yeap, that is my point | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | then they go deploy in production, stuff breaks, and they're crying for help | 16:35 |
| Sam-I-Am | so the point of the install guide is a step-by-step manual procedure to learn how services talk, what they do, ports they use, etc. | 16:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | sooooo..... | 16:35 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think automation is important, and the next step for people is automating something simple like the install guide | 16:36 |
| julen | aha... I see. So the point on providing more "manual" steps on the guides, is to help people understand what they wrote, right? | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | in other words, provide a starting people so people don't have to start all over | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah | 16:36 |
| emagana | indeed! | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i know chef is working on an automated version of the install guide | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | so having a bash one isnt the worst thing in the world - but we already have osbash | 16:36 |
| Sam-I-Am | i would like to see one using ansible and puppet too | 16:37 |
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| emagana | but that is not our goal :-) | 16:37 |
| Sam-I-Am | not this teams goal, the install guide team's goal | 16:37 |
| emagana | julen: do you have something else to discuss? | 16:37 |
| julen | nope, everything is clear | 16:38 |
| emagana | anyone else? | 16:38 |
| Sam-I-Am | julen: feel free to join the install guide team | 16:38 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we need more people | 16:38 |
| emagana | not sure what to do more | 16:39 |
| emagana | we reached the neutron team and we sent emails to all ML lists... I had a list of people but they are not attending the meeting nor contributing | 16:39 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, so goes the story with docs | 16:40 |
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| Sam-I-Am | none of the other meetings are getting attendance, so you're not alone | 16:40 |
| emagana | Sam-I-Am: :-( | 16:40 |
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| emagana | well, let's keep trying | 16:40 |
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| emagana | I will talk to PTLs to get more ideas.. | 16:41 |
| emagana | anything else? | 16:41 |
| lwilliams_ | good idea | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | nothing from me | 16:41 |
| lwilliams_ | no | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | just putting out more fires :) | 16:41 |
| emagana | #action emagana to talk with PTLs to get more contributors in networking guide | 16:41 |
| emagana | Thank you all! | 16:41 |
| njohnston | emagana: Shall I just grab some sections from the etherpad? | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | yep, thanks | 16:41 |
| lwilliams_ | thanks emagana | 16:41 |
| emagana | Pelase, work on the etherpad to be sure we cover more section | 16:41 |
| Sam-I-Am | njohnston: yes | 16:41 |
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| emagana | njohnston: Yes! | 16:42 |
| njohnston | OK, I will take one and get to work :-) | 16:42 |
| emagana | just add your name and write the docs and we will help on reviews and improvements | 16:42 |
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| emagana | njohnston: awesome! | 16:42 |
| njohnston | Are the ones listed as TBD open for the taking? | 16:42 |
| ssrikant | @Sam-I-Am I sent some content for networking guide few days back. | 16:43 |
| emagana | ssrikant: good to see you around | 16:43 |
| Sam-I-Am | yeah, and ones with people assigned already | 16:43 |
| ssrikant | This is my first attempt so took an easy one | 16:43 |
| emagana | ssrikant: We want you to push your documentation in gerrit and not private github accounts | 16:43 |
| ssrikant | i sent an email to the group as well | 16:43 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ssrikant: i didnt see an e-mail | 16:43 |
| emagana | ssrikant: me neither | 16:43 |
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| ssrikant | hmm.. it was to networking@openstacknow.com | 16:44 |
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| emagana | I dont know that address | 16:44 |
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| ssrikant | I just followed the instructions in Instructions for Contributors | 16:44 |
| ssrikant | in https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NetworkingGuide/TOC | 16:44 |
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| ssrikant | if there is another email or steps please let me know | 16:45 |
| ssrikant | i will resubmit. | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | ssrikant: oh, that email hasnt worked in a while | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | use the docs mailing list | 16:45 |
| ssrikant | :( | 16:45 |
| emagana | use these ones: openstack-docs@lists.openstack.org & openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org | 16:45 |
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| ssrikant | ok.. sorry did not know | 16:45 |
| emagana | n.p. | 16:45 |
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| ssrikant | ok.. | 16:45 |
| Sam-I-Am | ssrikant: also that wiki page is outdated | 16:46 |
| ssrikant | and I need to put it in a different repo | 16:46 |
| ssrikant | and not gist | 16:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | for a while we were allowing people to contribute in any format or location to get content | 16:46 |
| emagana | yes, please | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | but that didnt work out well | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | so now you have to use the regular gerrit workflow | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | guess we need to fix that wiki page | 16:46 |
| ssrikant | ok.. if u have some basic steps for that kindly let me know | 16:46 |
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| ssrikant | i will follow that procedure. | 16:46 |
| emagana | ssrikant: take a look: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 16:46 |
| ssrikant | ok | 16:46 |
| Sam-I-Am | emagana: btw i submitted a patch to remove the apac meeting, and also changed the agenda to use an etherpad for this meeting | 16:47 |
| emagana | you need to use the openstack-manuals repo | 16:47 |
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| emagana | Sam-I-Am: I saw it.. make sense | 16:47 |
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| ssrikant | ok.. let me read thro this and will submit the content and will also email the mailing list once done | 16:48 |
| emagana | great | 16:48 |
| ssrikant | @emagana @Sam-I-Am Thank you | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | ssrikant: you dont have to mail the list about contributions | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | we'll see them in the review queue | 16:48 |
| ssrikant | ok | 16:48 |
| emagana | yeap.. | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | just e-mail the list with questions | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | like... you cant get something to work | 16:48 |
| ssrikant | ok..got it | 16:48 |
| Sam-I-Am | anything else? | 16:49 |
| njohnston | What content do you think should be in the Operational section other than logging? http://docs.openstack.org/liberty/networking-guide/adv-config-operational.html | 16:50 |
| Sam-I-Am | njohnston: maybe db management? | 16:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i think there's a patch somewhere for it... | 16:50 |
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| Sam-I-Am | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276335/ | 16:51 |
| njohnston | Thanks! | 16:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | havent looked at it yet, but seems along those lines | 16:51 |
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| Sam-I-Am | maybe document the "cleaner" scripts | 16:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | like ovs-cleanup or whatever its called | 16:51 |
| Sam-I-Am | there's one for linux bridge too | 16:52 |
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| Sam-I-Am | stuff operators would need to do from more of an administrative standpoint | 16:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | upgrades would probably go into operational bits | 16:52 |
| Sam-I-Am | emagana: anything else? | 16:53 |
| emagana | no, we are good | 16:53 |
| emagana | Thank you all! | 16:53 |
| emagana | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 16:53:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_guide/2016/networking_guide.2016-02-04-16.02.html | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_guide/2016/networking_guide.2016-02-04-16.02.txt | 16:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_guide/2016/networking_guide.2016-02-04-16.02.log.html | 16:53 |
| Sam-I-Am | thanks everyone! | 16:53 |
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| Sam-I-Am | i'm over in -doc if anyone needs me | 16:54 |
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| julen | thank you too! :) | 16:54 |
| ssrikant | thanks | 16:54 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 17:00:20 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| andreaf | Agenda for today: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_February_4th_2016_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:00 |
| dpaterson | 0/ | 17:00 |
| dpaterson | o/ | 17:00 |
| dpaterson | rather | 17:00 |
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| andreaf | Hello, who's here today? | 17:01 |
| ccneill | o/ | 17:01 |
| andreaf | hi dpaterson | 17:01 |
| ylobankov | hi | 17:01 |
| dpaterson | hi | 17:01 |
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| andreaf | sdague, dtroyer, afazekas, mkoderer: around? | 17:02 |
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| andreaf | ok, let's start | 17:02 |
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| andreaf | #topic QA Code spring | 17:02 |
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| andreaf | so I just wanted to remind folks about the upcoming sprint #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/QA/CodeSprintMitakaBoston | 17:03 |
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| andreaf | and dpaterson added a comment on the agenda about the t-shirt size, if you are planning to attend let him know your preferred size | 17:03 |
| dwalleck | o/ | 17:03 |
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| andreaf | anything else on the sprint? | 17:04 |
| andreaf | apart from the fact that I spelled it wrong in the topic :D | 17:05 |
| andreaf | ok let's move on | 17:05 |
| andreaf | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:05 |
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| dpaterson | anyone needs info about Boston please feel free to ping me | 17:05 |
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| dpaterson | david_paterson@dell.com | 17:05 |
| andreaf | thanks dpaterson | 17:06 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:06 |
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| andreaf | does anyone have a spec to discuss? | 17:06 |
| * afazekas o/ | 17:06 | |
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| dwalleck | I put up the tempest run spec, I'd appreciate any feedback: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269934/ | 17:07 |
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| dpaterson | dwalleck: will take a look | 17:07 |
| dwalleck | It might be something easier to discuss in Boston too | 17:07 |
| andreaf | dwalleck: I have it on my todo list | 17:07 |
| dwalleck | Thanks! | 17:08 |
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| andreaf | dwalleck: yes that's a good topic for Boston | 17:08 |
| andreaf | dwalleck: you may want to fix the docs gate failure | 17:08 |
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| andreaf | #info "tempest run" spec to be discussed during the sprint in boston | 17:09 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269934/ | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | Anything else on specs? | 17:10 |
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| andreaf | I need to update https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173334/ based on mtreinish input, hopefully it will be ready to go afterwards | 17:11 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173334/ tempest test resources | 17:11 |
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| andreaf | ok let's move on | 17:11 |
| andreaf | #topic Priority Items | 17:12 |
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| andreaf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-qa-priorities | 17:12 |
| andreaf | is there any update on priority items for Mitaka? | 17:12 |
| ccneill | hi, I actually do have one spec I'd like to discuss if possible: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274205/ | 17:12 |
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| ccneill | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274205/ | 17:12 |
| andreaf | ccneill sure | 17:13 |
| andreaf | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:13 |
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| andreaf | ccneill: the floor is yours | 17:13 |
| ccneill | so I've discussed this back and forth with mtreinish in late '15, but I'd like to figure out what I can do to 1) better explain, 2) better document, better test, etc. | 17:13 |
| ccneill | the basic premise is providing utilities that can be used by projects to write their own functional security "fuzz" tests | 17:14 |
| dpaterson | ccneill: a highlevel interface description would be useful. What the calls are and what they would return | 17:14 |
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| ccneill | i.e. sending XSS payloads, SQL injection payloads, etc. | 17:14 |
| andreaf | ccneill: it sounds reasonable to me | 17:15 |
| ccneill | dpaterson: sounds reasonable. would that be best to add to the spec, or in docstrings in the code? | 17:15 |
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| dpaterson | ccneill: spec first them migrate to docstrings in code | 17:15 |
| ccneill | I also probably need to add a few more unit tests to more fully test the functionality | 17:15 |
| andreaf | ccneill: that wouldn't be for tempest testing right? | 17:16 |
| andreaf | ccneill: yes I was about to day how are you going to keep that tested - you'll need unit test coverage for that | 17:16 |
| ccneill | andreaf: the backstory is I already wrote tests for designate and barbican using these utilities, and they didn't want to house them in their repo | 17:16 |
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| ccneill | andreaf: so they may have a place in tempest, but my primary motivation is just to provide the tools if people want to use them, and not to have to ship them with every project individually | 17:16 |
| dwalleck | ccneill: I've been meaning to have a look at that spec. I'll put it for on my to do list for today | 17:18 |
| ccneill | there are 2 relatively straightforward parts, for anyone who doesn't want to dig through the code right now: datasets, and methods for "repackaging" them based on the testing framework used by the project, and very simplistic verification that a request didn't return a response with an obvious indicator of vulnerability | 17:18 |
| ccneill | dwalleck: awesome, thanks! | 17:18 |
| andreaf | ccneill: ok, if you could details about the interface and testing it would be great | 17:19 |
| andreaf | ccneill: I'll add it to my review list as well | 17:19 |
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| ccneill | andreaf: great, thanks | 17:19 |
| ccneill | I'll try to add some more details today | 17:20 |
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| andreaf | ccneill: cool thanks | 17:21 |
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| andreaf | ok, anything else on specs? | 17:21 |
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| andreaf | #topic Mitaka priorities | 17:22 |
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| andreaf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-qa-priorities | 17:22 |
| andreaf | any update on priorities? | 17:23 |
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| dpaterson | I believe all the cmd modules have been migrated over to use cliff lib for cli. | 17:23 |
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| dpaterson | I started adding unit tests for account_generator which are here: | 17:24 |
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| dpaterson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270576 | 17:24 |
| dpaterson | I've not had a chance to complete, if anyone feels like jumping in that would be great. | 17:24 |
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| andreaf | dpaterson: nice work thanks - is there an etherpad you're using to track this work? | 17:25 |
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| andreaf | dpaterson: so someone could take ownership of items if they wanted to | 17:25 |
| dpaterson | It's linked to from mitaka priorites | 17:25 |
| andreaf | dpaterson: right, thanks #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-cli-improvements | 17:26 |
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| andreaf | regarding (9) resource configuration, it won't make M3 I guess as it's still at the spec | 17:26 |
| andreaf | regarding (10) ssh auth bp, it's very close to be finished - we may open a follow-up one for items left to be cleaned-up | 17:27 |
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| andreaf | ok, next topic | 17:28 |
| andreaf | #topic Tempest | 17:28 |
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| andreaf | the only item I had on the agenda for this topic is the "ideas for refactor" which was discussed earlier | 17:29 |
| andreaf | I just wanted to share the link to the etherpad so people can contribute to it | 17:29 |
| andreaf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-refactor-ideas | 17:30 |
| dwalleck | andreaf: Is that list open for other folks to add items? | 17:30 |
| andreaf | dwalleck: yes if you have good ideas related to the topic for sure | 17:30 |
| dwalleck | andreaf: Cool, thanks | 17:31 |
| andreaf | and if anyone has any concern on the topics there, please bring them up at the QA meetings as well | 17:31 |
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| ylobankov | I have one item to refactor probably. What about scenario tests? | 17:32 |
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| ylobankov | I think we should refactor them | 17:32 |
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| andreaf | ylobankov: yes I believe some of the topics in that list are related to scenario tests as well | 17:33 |
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| ylobankov | Anyway I would like to add this idea to the etherpad :) | 17:33 |
| andreaf | ylobankov: some of the scenario tests are rather convoluted, the code has many many layers of abstractions which makes debugging and changing the code difficult | 17:34 |
| ylobankov | andreaf: So that is why we should refactor that code to make things easier | 17:35 |
| andreaf | ylobankov: please go ahead, and please be specific on the pain points that require refactor | 17:36 |
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| andreaf | ylobankov: the main objectives are: make it easier to contribute tests, make it easier to debug them (during test development and in the gate) and reduce technical debt | 17:36 |
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| andreaf | ylobankov: well we don't want to scare off new contributors and mostly the code must be debuggable - a failure in the tests may have a big impact on the gate so we need the code to be debuggable | 17:37 |
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| ylobankov | andreaf: I absolutely agree with you | 17:38 |
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| andreaf | ylobankov: also we do have unit test coverage for the common parts of the framework, but if test code becomes too complex it may become difficult to separate failures in the tests from actual failures | 17:38 |
| andreaf | ylobankov: in my personal opinion it's a fine balance we need to find, but now we're are off in the direction of complexity | 17:39 |
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| andreaf | anyways, I think we need to move on | 17:39 |
| andreaf | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:39 |
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| andreaf | sdague, dtroyer: around? | 17:39 |
| andreaf | anything on devstack or grenade? | 17:40 |
| andreaf | ok, let's move on | 17:41 |
| andreaf | #topic Critical Reviews | 17:41 |
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| andreaf | Any critical review to highlight? | 17:41 |
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| andreaf | ok looks like not | 17:43 |
| andreaf | let's open the floor for discussion then | 17:43 |
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| andreaf | #topic Open Discussion | 17:43 |
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| andreaf | ok, it there's nothing else I guess we'll end here | 17:45 |
| andreaf | thanks everyone | 17:45 |
| dpaterson | thanks andrea | 17:45 |
| ccneill | thanks all | 17:45 |
| dwalleck | andreaf: Thanks! | 17:45 |
| ccneill | o/ | 17:45 |
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| ylobankov | thanks all | 17:45 |
| andreaf | o/ | 17:45 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting | 17:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 17:45:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-02-04-17.00.html | 17:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-02-04-17.00.txt | 17:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-02-04-17.00.log.html | 17:46 |
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| rtheis | hi | 19:03 |
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| dtroyer | Hi… OSC meeting! | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 19:04:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:04 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:04 |
| MeganR | Hi | 19:04 |
| dtroyer | Hi MeganR, who else do we have here? | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | courtesy ping: dhellmann, stevemar, terrylhowe, lhcheng, dstanek | 19:05 |
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| dtroyer | quiet day... | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | #topic release | 19:08 |
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| singhj | hi | 19:08 |
| MeganR | not a bad thing - sometime coming up I will reach out to you offline to discuss the Product WG roadmap - and make certain we are on the same page | 19:08 |
| dtroyer | I sent the review to release 2.1.0 this morning, stevemar did the u-c update that I missed a little while ago | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | MeganR: ok, sounds good | 19:09 |
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| dstanek | hi all | 19:10 |
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| dtroyer | 2.1.0 is the first release with the SDK as a prereq and the new network commands | 19:11 |
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| dtroyer | We should have at least one more release before we designate our Mitaka stable branch, with the hurdle of the SDK integration done, we will be able to do more frequent releases again | 19:12 |
| MeganR | interesting, thank you for the information | 19:12 |
| rtheis | sounds good | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | #topic reviews | 19:13 |
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| dtroyer | Are there reviews anyone wants to discuss? | 19:13 |
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| rtheis | I don't have any | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | I saw Tang abandon and re-propose a bunch for his job change. | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | That really wasn't necessary, and we lost some comment history doing that. | 19:14 |
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| rtheis | yeah, exactly...I was trying to restore some of that history/comments | 19:15 |
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| dtroyer | So anyone with comments in the earlier reviews needs to see if they still aplly to the current ones | 19:15 |
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| dtroyer | rtheis: right | 19:15 |
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| dtroyer | Also, I mentioned that it seemed like there were a lot of tightly related small reviews. I find it clumsy to have to bounce back and forth to compare the set when they could have easily been done in a single review. | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | Finding the balance here is totally a personal opinion | 19:17 |
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| dtroyer | For example, early on we would do an entire set of resource CRUD commands in a single review, rather than one per. | 19:17 |
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| dtroyer | That may seem too big to some, as recently it seems like they are one command per review. | 19:18 |
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| dtroyer | I think those are the two edges of acceptable… | 19:19 |
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| rtheis | dtroyer: ok, do you have a preference? | 19:19 |
| dtroyer | My guideline is around what I need to keep in my head to review the code | 19:20 |
| MeganR | dtroyer: is this documented, thinking of having something to refer to in the future. | 19:20 |
| dtroyer | so adding a command, its tests, fakes/fixtures, docs, etc at once is the minimum | 19:20 |
| MeganR | not just what you need to keep in your head | 19:20 |
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| dtroyer | I don' tknow where it is documented, most projects eventually settle on what is acceptable to them | 19:21 |
| dtroyer | we have slowly drifted toward smaller and smaller chunks | 19:21 |
| MeganR | ok, I am working on bringing in one or two people, and was thinking about preferences/process | 19:22 |
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| dtroyer | I hate to say it is just common sense, because 'common' doesn't mean the same thing to everyone | 19:22 |
| MeganR | so true! | 19:22 |
| dtroyer | Akihiro recently had a review that had a huge number of files in it, but it was all to do the same thing across the project, I found that fine | 19:23 |
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| dtroyer | and I know stevemar likes them small | 19:24 |
| dtroyer | since he isn't here to argue with me about it ;) | 19:24 |
| rtheis | :) | 19:24 |
| MeganR | good timing :) | 19:24 |
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| dtroyer | I just looked at some of the long outstanding reviews in the dashboard… rtheis is https://review.openstack.org/256070 still good to go? I think we just lost track of it over the holidays | 19:25 |
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| rtheis | dtroyer: yes it is. | 19:25 |
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| dtroyer | ok, thanks… +A | 19:26 |
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| rtheis | thanks | 19:26 |
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| dtroyer | and we missed terrylhowe's log levels review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211682/, we should bump that back up | 19:27 |
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| rtheis | ok | 19:28 |
| dtroyer | anything else? | 19:28 |
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| rtheis | nothing else from me | 19:29 |
| MeganR | I'm good. | 19:29 |
| terrylhowe | just lurking, nothing from me | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:29 |
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| dtroyer | anything here? | 19:29 |
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| dtroyer | ok... | 19:30 |
| terrylhowe | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1541905 | 19:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1541905 in python-openstackclient "identity common find throws excetion" [Undecided,New] | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | I know we handle that error in at least some places, but I think it is in the commands themselves | 19:31 |
| terrylhowe | Seems like this topic has come up before, but I was trying to do an image share and I didn’t have keystone access to projects | 19:31 |
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| stevemar | oh my, i forgot all about this, was out to lunch | 19:32 |
| dtroyer | and my recollection is because sometimes it is an error in find and sometimes it can be worked around | 19:32 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: i do like small reviews! i'm not that smart, so the smaller the better for my small brain | 19:34 |
| anteaya | ++ small reviews | 19:34 |
| dtroyer | I bet I could make some that were too small for even you stevemar ;) | 19:34 |
| stevemar | terrylhowe: dtroyer the error is... well we have to do that for all the possible look ups | 19:35 |
| stevemar | terrylhowe: do you have any metrics on how often we hit that code? | 19:35 |
| terrylhowe | I just added a note to what I was doing and leave it out there | 19:35 |
| stevemar | ideally the get(id) get(name) and list(name=name), should hit most of the common cases | 19:36 |
| stevemar | the find call shouldn't happen too often | 19:36 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer: mfisch opened a bug yesterday | 19:37 |
| stevemar | out help output is a bit janky | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | a bit? | 19:37 |
| stevemar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1541651 | 19:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1541651 in python-openstackclient "confusing options when using the admin token" [Undecided,New] | 19:37 |
| stevemar | he had to go to the docs to find the os-url & os-token combination | 19:38 |
| stevemar | oh another help related bug.. | 19:38 |
| dtroyer | o-c-c will fix all of this, right? 'cause it now owns the auth plugin interface... | 19:38 |
| stevemar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1541047 | 19:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1541047 in python-openstackclient "openstack --help fails if clouds.yaml cannot be read" [Medium,New] | 19:38 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: that's the goal :) | 19:38 |
| terrylhowe | there is another bug related to Matt’s | 19:39 |
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| dtroyer | stevemar: a bad goal but oh well | 19:40 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: don't be hatin' | 19:40 |
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| dtroyer | terrylhowe: this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1538804 | 19:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1538804 in python-openstackclient "Default install of latest python-openstackclient fails to recognize the OS_DOMAIN_NAME environment variable" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:41 |
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| terrylhowe | that too, I thought I created one, but can’t find it now, either way, I think it is a problem | 19:42 |
| terrylhowe | It may be an occ issue for sure | 19:42 |
| dtroyer | I have on my list to create a big pile-o-tests in o-c-c for our use case | 19:42 |
| stevemar | i'll admit i haven't had much time for osc dev this cycle, otherwise i'd jump in and fix it all up | 19:43 |
| dtroyer | I don' tknow where your time has gone <cough>keystone</cough> | 19:43 |
| stevemar | but it seems like it's just not big enough of a problem, just yet | 19:43 |
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| dtroyer | my problem there is building an env to dupe/test it | 19:43 |
| stevemar | on the plus side, we're making awesome headway with neutron commands! | 19:43 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: pfft who cares abotu keystone | 19:43 |
| dtroyer | IKR? | 19:44 |
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| dtroyer | any other bugs? | 19:44 |
| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:45 |
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| dtroyer | what else shall we kick around here? | 19:46 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: i'm excited about the new release | 19:46 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: i'll be releasing a new keystoneclient eventually, as we approach m3 deadline | 19:47 |
| terrylhowe | definitely a lot of awesomeness in the next release | 19:47 |
| dtroyer | it is a milestone for us, for sure | 19:47 |
| stevemar | so i'll be looking to flip the switch on this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255363/ and ask for another osc release (eventually) | 19:48 |
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| dtroyer | k | 19:48 |
| stevemar | i'm assuming we have one more osc relase before we close up mitaka | 19:48 |
| dtroyer | at least one more, yes | 19:48 |
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| rtheis | I have a question about list command filtering options... | 19:49 |
| dtroyer | I think we're out of the wait-for-big-thing-to-happen phase of our releases now | 19:49 |
| dtroyer | rtheis: go | 19:49 |
| rtheis | Take for example "neutron router-port-list" | 19:49 |
| rtheis | This is basically "neutron port-list" with a filter on the router's ports | 19:49 |
| dtroyer | ok | 19:50 |
| rtheis | in osc, would that translate to "port list --router <router>" | 19:50 |
| dtroyer | maybe? | 19:50 |
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| dtroyer | is our 'port' resource really 'router port'? | 19:50 |
| rtheis | 'port' resource is a generic port with router being a specific device | 19:51 |
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| terrylhowe | or generic —query router=123 ? | 19:51 |
| stevemar | i say `osc port list --router <router` works for now | 19:52 |
| rtheis | yeah, I think is query on the list request | 19:52 |
| dtroyer | assuming there might also be 'port list —foo <foo-name>' down the road for other port types? | 19:52 |
| rtheis | there could be | 19:52 |
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| dtroyer | when I first saw this my thought was we should flip it and use 'router list —port' to get a list of a specific router's ports | 19:53 |
| terrylhowe | that would be confusing to list ports there | 19:53 |
| dtroyer | but that fails in the 'what resource is being shown' test | 19:53 |
| dtroyer | yeah | 19:53 |
| dtroyer | rtheis: I think you are on the right track | 19:54 |
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| rtheis | dtroyer: sounds good, singhj (Jas) and I will go down that road | 19:55 |
| dtroyer | cool | 19:55 |
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| dtroyer | anything else? | 19:55 |
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| rtheis | nothing else | 19:56 |
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| terrylhowe | nada | 19:57 |
| dtroyer | well alrighty then | 19:57 |
| dtroyer | thanks everyone! | 19:57 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 19:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 19:57:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-04-19.04.html | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-04-19.04.txt | 19:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2016/openstackclient.2016-02-04-19.04.log.html | 19:57 |
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| dansmith | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 21:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| tonyb | o/ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | I'm not doing the ping thing because I think it's silly | 21:00 |
| bauzas | heh | 21:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 21:00 |
| ctrath | o/ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | Welcome to "Dansmith reads the meeting agenda" | 21:00 |
| dansmith | I'm your host, dansmith | 21:00 |
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| dansmith | #topic Release Status | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release Status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
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| dansmith | Final date for non-priority stuff is .. tomororw | 21:00 |
| dansmith | also, tomorrow | 21:00 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy sent out a thing, which you should read: | 21:01 |
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| dansmith | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085455.html | 21:01 |
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| dansmith | any questions or concerns? | 21:01 |
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| dansmith | everyone is aware that mitaka-3 is Mar 1-3 which will be here before you know it, | 21:01 |
| dansmith | thanks to our tricky short month of February | 21:01 |
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| dansmith | okie doke | 21:02 |
| Vek | heh | 21:02 |
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| dansmith | #topic Regular Reminders | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Regular Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| dansmith | brush your teeth twice a day | 21:02 |
| dansmith | also, this: | 21:02 |
| tonyb | Be nice to your monther | 21:02 |
| dansmith | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:02 |
| Vek | heh | 21:02 |
| dansmith | tonyb: also a good reminder, yes | 21:02 |
| bauzas | monther ? | 21:03 |
| dansmith | in addition to the nova priority reviews, you should always review my patches | 21:03 |
| Vek | haha :) | 21:03 |
| dansmith | bauzas: I believe he meant "mother" but .. who knows about those upside down monther-lovers | 21:03 |
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| Vek | I figured it was probably a response to dan's comment about February :) | 21:04 |
| tonyb | I talk/type funny remember? | 21:04 |
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| dansmith | tonyb: you're excused, yes | 21:04 |
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| bauzas | :) | 21:04 |
| tonyb | \o/ | 21:04 |
| dansmith | okay, anything else on this electrifying topic? | 21:04 |
| * Vek flips the switch | 21:05 | |
| dansmith | #topic Bugs / gate status | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs / gate status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:05 | |
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| dansmith | so, I put this first thing on here, before I realized I have to run this thing | 21:05 |
| dansmith | and I also forgot this week was a late meeting, because I mostly wanted to confront johnthetubaguy here | 21:05 |
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| dansmith | but basically, nova consumes a lot of gate resources, which are rapidly becoming more and more rare | 21:06 |
| dansmith | 21 nodes on every patch in check for nova | 21:06 |
| dansmith | that's like, a lot and stuff | 21:06 |
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| tonyb | dansmith: Yeah I fell like we need a different crowd to make thew call but reducing things seems like an ok idea | 21:06 |
| dansmith | we have a bunch of jobs that I think we should consider dropping because they cost (someone) money and I think are less useful | 21:06 |
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| dansmith | like v2.0 jobs (two of them) and tests for some weirdo database called postgres | 21:06 |
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| dansmith | I also hear that the ceph job is not very stable, | 21:07 |
| bauzas | probably a good ask for some 3rd party CI instead ? | 21:07 |
| Vek | *nod* | 21:07 |
| dansmith | but we're spending resources on it, AND like 90% of real deployments use it | 21:07 |
| dansmith | so I kinda think that we should maybe focus more on making that job suck less | 21:07 |
| dansmith | which I think could come in the form of folding that into our default job, to make it everyone's problem | 21:07 |
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| dansmith | but I know that's not super popular | 21:07 |
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| dansmith | bauzas: yeah, we could try to farm out some of the weird configurations | 21:08 |
| dansmith | so anyway, I propose we leave this on the agenda and bring it back up next week in the presence of folks like johnthetubaguy, mriedem, sdague, etc | 21:08 |
| bauzas | ++ | 21:08 |
| * Vek will +1 | 21:08 | |
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| dansmith | any other comments on this before we move on? | 21:09 |
| tonyb | just on bugs | 21:09 |
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| dansmith | #topic Bugs / 3rd party CI | 21:09 |
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| dansmith | so looking at the report: | 21:10 |
| dansmith | #link http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 21:10 |
| tonyb | I guess we shoudl start lookign at things that aren't going to land in M but would be worth a backport | 21:10 |
| dansmith | looks like hyper-v isn't doing so hot | 21:10 |
| dansmith | but someone from Intel NFV CI popped up today sounding eager to expand and stabil-ify things there, which is good | 21:10 |
| tonyb | dansmith: Yeah I've been talking to cbeliu aboiut it | 21:10 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:10 |
| tonyb | they kno the problem but not how to fic | 21:11 |
| tonyb | fix even | 21:11 |
| Vek | oh, cool.. | 21:11 |
| dansmith | okay | 21:11 |
| dansmith | the intel one seems more stable than I recall, according to the report, which is nice | 21:11 |
| tonyb | the problem is there are a few hyperv related patches backing up .... | 21:11 |
| dansmith | I'd like to go look at some of those failures to see whether they're legit or not | 21:11 |
| melwitt | tonyb: what does that mean? | 21:12 |
| dansmith | tonyb: problem meaning they're stacking up because we don't have CI reads on them and thus aren't approving? | 21:12 |
| tonyb | dansmith: Yeah, kinda | 21:12 |
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| dansmith | I'm pretty okay with that | 21:12 |
| tonyb | dansmith: I don't know that they have core attention but there are a few that I wont +1 without a vote | 21:13 |
| dansmith | we wouldn't be landing any patches if regular infra CI was hosed | 21:13 |
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| dansmith | tonyb: yeah | 21:13 |
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| tonyb | at least one is security related which would be good to get before M3 | 21:13 |
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| tonyb | anyway it's a problem it sucks but we can't fix it :( | 21:13 |
| dansmith | yeah, well... :/ | 21:14 |
| Vek | tonyb: is there enough unit testing on that security-related one to test the security hole being closed? | 21:14 |
| Vek | or is it something that can only be properly tested by a CI job? | 21:14 |
| tonyb | Vek: that's a good question. | 21:15 |
| dansmith | Vek: well, the testing most people are waiting for is to make sure it doesn't break anything, not necessarily just that it plugs the hole | 21:15 |
| tonyb | Vek: the fix adds unit tests which I'm happy enough with | 21:15 |
| melwitt | dansmith: +1 | 21:15 |
| Vek | good point. | 21:15 |
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| dansmith | okay, anything else on 3rd party CI? | 21:15 |
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| dansmith | #topic Bugs / reminders | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs / reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:16 | |
| dansmith | So, markus has a couple things here: | 21:16 |
| dansmith | the first is looking for people to do bug skimming duty: | 21:16 |
| dansmith | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage#Weekly_bug_skimming_duty | 21:17 |
| dansmith | requested 1 week compulsory bug skimming duty - no salary or stipend offered | 21:17 |
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| dansmith | and also, that meetings are starting up Feb 9th, which is Monday I think: | 21:17 |
| * alaski sneaks in late | 21:17 | |
| dansmith | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/084543.html | 21:17 |
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| dansmith | alaski: good of you to join us | 21:17 |
| dansmith | any other bug-related reminders? | 21:18 |
| alaski | uh oh, the teacher noticed | 21:18 |
| tonyb | alaski: you're not very sneaky | 21:18 |
| * Vek slips alaski an apple to give to the teacher | 21:18 | |
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| dansmith | Vek: unless it's coated in fat or candy, it ain't gonna help | 21:18 |
| Vek | hehe :) | 21:19 |
| auggy | i don't mind signing up again to help out with the bug skimming | 21:19 |
| dansmith | auggy: cool | 21:19 |
| bauzas | no criticals \o/ | 21:19 |
| dansmith | oh, heh, I totes missed the critical section | 21:19 |
| auggy | i'm still pretty new to nova so i'm slow at it but everyone has been really helpful :) | 21:20 |
| dansmith | #topic Bugs / {critical,stable status} | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs / {critical,stable status} (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:20 | |
| dansmith | I don't know that we have anything for either of these bits.. anyone? | 21:20 |
| dansmith | bueller? | 21:20 |
| bauzas | (22:19:36) bauzas: no criticals \o/ | 21:20 |
| Vek | *crickets* | 21:20 |
| dansmith | schweet | 21:20 |
| dansmith | #topic Stuck reviews | 21:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:20 | |
| bauzas | tonyb: stable is stable ? | 21:20 |
| tonyb | bauzas: for nova yeah | 21:21 |
| tonyb | actually in general it's about as good as it gets | 21:21 |
| dansmith | #undo | 21:21 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x95ac3d0> | 21:21 |
| dansmith | sorry, I was thinking that without mriedem here, we'd have nothing | 21:21 |
| tonyb | dansmith: we still have nothing ;P | 21:22 |
| dansmith | excellent | 21:22 |
| dansmith | #topic Stuck reviews | 21:22 |
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| bauzas | \o/ | 21:22 |
| dansmith | I believe there to be no stuck reviews because the list on the wiki is empty | 21:22 |
| dansmith | any disagreements? | 21:22 |
| bauzas | go go go | 21:22 |
| dansmith | alrighty then | 21:23 |
| dansmith | #topic Open Discussion | 21:23 |
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| dansmith | who put this docimpact thing on the agenda? | 21:23 |
| dansmith | I don't have context | 21:23 |
| bauzas | sdague ? | 21:23 |
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| tonyb | probably sdague | 21:23 |
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| bauzas | I remember some convo we had | 21:23 |
| bauzas | + markus | 21:23 |
| tonyb | I think the impact for us is DocImapct will now land in the nova queue to triage | 21:23 |
| bauzas | so, basically, just a reminder at least that adding DocImpact is bugging the doc team | 21:24 |
| tonyb | which will suck for markus and auggy ;P | 21:24 |
| alaski | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085733.html I think | 21:24 |
| * auggy writes a perl script to make them all wontfix ;D | 21:24 | |
| dansmith | hrm | 21:24 |
| Vek | heh | 21:24 |
| bauzas | tonyb: it's set for doc, not nova AFAIK | 21:24 |
| tonyb | auggy: *cough* python *cough* | 21:24 |
| dansmith | auggy: you have got to stop answering things with "write.*perl" | 21:24 |
| bauzas | but the problem is that it mostly overloads the doc team | 21:24 |
| bauzas | while it should really be just a reno note IMHO | 21:25 |
| tonyb | bauzas: okay I'll re-read but that's not what I recall | 21:25 |
| anteaya | my read of the docimpact thing is that it stops overloading the docs team | 21:25 |
| bauzas | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/DocImpact | 21:25 |
| anteaya | and that puts bugs in project queues | 21:25 |
| anteaya | but I may be out of date | 21:25 |
| tonyb | bauzas: I'm not sure I agree with you and sdague that everything that needs documenting implies a reno but .... | 21:25 |
| melwitt | I thought we were supposed to use reno note instead of DocImpact. are we supposed to do both? | 21:25 |
| dansmith | I'm thinking that will cause us to just stop using DocImpact, for better or worse | 21:26 |
| bauzas | https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/gerrit/projects.yaml#n2188 | 21:26 |
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| tonyb | If nothgin else DocImpact will now be a review flag to ask what need documenting and then eitehr update devref or reno | 21:26 |
| bauzas | => openstack-manuals | 21:26 |
| bauzas | so | 21:27 |
| bauzas | my point is | 21:27 |
| tonyb | bauzas: right that's *now* but there is a spec out to alter the behaviour | 21:27 |
| bauzas | tonyb: because the docs team can't handle all our load | 21:27 |
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| dhellmann | bauzas : http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085733.html | 21:27 |
| tonyb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276065/1/gerrit/projects.yaml | 21:27 |
| bauzas | hence the point we're discussing now | 21:27 |
| bauzas | I see | 21:28 |
| tonyb | So yeah it'll be down to us to | 21:28 |
| auggy | i can talk to markus about if there's any stats we might want to keep track of regarding the nova bug impact | 21:28 |
| tonyb | a) decide if it's a reno or a devref | 21:28 |
| tonyb | an ; | 21:28 |
| tonyb | b) add openstack-manuals if it impacts the stuff they write | 21:28 |
| bauzas | our code-review policy says that what needs DocImpact needs a note | 21:28 |
| bauzas | honestly, I'm by far in favor of having only one way to get the release comments - and that's reno IMHO | 21:29 |
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| tonyb | bauzas: sure but reno doesn't cover all the cases | 21:29 |
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| bauzas | examples ? | 21:29 |
| tonyb | bauzas: for waht's designed for it's great but we need a policy that covers the rest | 21:30 |
| anteaya | reno is for release notes, docimpact is for the openstack-manuals you need both | 21:30 |
| anteaya | or I hope you think you need both | 21:30 |
| bauzas | sorry I was unclear | 21:30 |
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| tonyb | bauzas: say the api v2 -> v2.1 switch | 21:30 |
| bauzas | what I see is | 21:30 |
| tonyb | it's needs a reno *and* install/ops updates | 21:30 |
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| tonyb | so we handle the reno in nova and *also* add it to the docs queue | 21:30 |
| tonyb | somethings might be appropriate only for devref | 21:31 |
| bauzas | how can us know what can be modified in docs land ? | 21:31 |
| bauzas | devref is differnet | 21:31 |
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| tonyb | bauzas: You make a "best guess" to triage it if we're wrong then docs will reject it but it will still lighten thier load | 21:32 |
| bauzas | we have the install guides, the ops guides, the security guide, the CTO guide (kidding) | 21:32 |
| dansmith | heh | 21:32 |
| melwitt | the example I had recently was a new nova-manage command. reno covers the announcement of the new command, DocImpact would be needed to get the usage info in the manuals | 21:32 |
| bauzas | tonyb: hence me thinking that what changes for our operators are in release notes | 21:32 |
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| tonyb | bauzas: sure devref is differnt but today we tagg things as DocImact to mean all 3 things (reno, devref and manuals) we're just refining the process | 21:32 |
| bauzas | melwitt: sure, but the tag won't help | 21:32 |
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| alaski | bauzas: the tag is a reminder to go and do it | 21:33 |
| tonyb | Or to not +W tha review without the work being in the patch or a dependant patch | 21:33 |
| bauzas | okay, fair enough, but how can we define when asking to add that tag ? | 21:34 |
| bauzas | what could be the policy ? | 21:34 |
| bauzas | like we have for http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#when-a-release-note-is-needed | 21:34 |
| tonyb | bauzas: I'll take a TODO to write up something to have a robust discussion over :) | 21:35 |
| tonyb | bauzas: in short I don't really think it's that hard | 21:35 |
| tonyb | moving on? | 21:35 |
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| bauzas | mmm, thanks for helping, I'd love to see that list | 21:35 |
| bauzas | dansmith: on my TZ ? | 21:36 |
| * tonyb has to take the kids to school in 5 .... | 21:36 | |
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| anteaya | tonyb: safe travels | 21:36 |
| dansmith | does anyone know anything about this novaclient cinder keystone thing? | 21:36 |
| anteaya | I do not | 21:36 |
| Vek | other than that it caused functional tests to fail, not really. | 21:36 |
| tonyb | dansmith: I'm guessing it's fallout from the turn on v3 in devstack from last week | 21:36 |
| dansmith | tonyb: right, but .. do you know what we need to discuss about it? | 21:37 |
| Vek | https://review.openstack.org/264764 probably needs work | 21:37 |
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| dansmith | melwitt was a reviewer.. any comments? | 21:37 |
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| Vek | looks like it hasn't been touched since beginning of January, too... | 21:37 |
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| melwitt | dansmith: just that the work needs to be done to add v3 compat in novaclient | 21:38 |
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| melwitt | but most of the time the answer is, just use openstackclient | 21:38 |
| auggy | i remember notmorgan was working on a patch that sdague was reviewing, but i don't know if it's related | 21:39 |
| auggy | i'll see if i can find it | 21:39 |
| dansmith | that's catalog related I think | 21:39 |
| dansmith | which may be somewhat related, I dunno | 21:39 |
| auggy | yeah i got nothin' | 21:39 |
| tonyb | auggy: that was different | 21:40 |
| tonyb | auggy: that was glance stuff | 21:40 |
| auggy | tonyb: ah ok, i was thinking it was keystone auth related, sorry for the distraction | 21:40 |
| Vek | Monty was working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245200/, but I don't think that's actually related; it just comes up when I search my mailbox for "keystone" | 21:40 |
| tonyb | auggy: just trying to save you looking for a thing that doesn't exist ;P | 21:41 |
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| alaski | o/ | 21:41 |
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| dansmith | okay, I think the midcycle thing is old now, | 21:42 |
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| dansmith | so .. anything else? | 21:42 |
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| dansmith | frankly I'm sick of this meeting after 42 whole minutes of it | 21:42 |
| Vek | heh :) | 21:42 |
| anteaya | lovely reading of the agenda dansmith | 21:42 |
| Vek | stick a fork in it, then :) | 21:42 |
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| dansmith | going thrice... | 21:43 |
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| dansmith | #endmeeting | 21:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 21:43:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:43 |
| * Vek throws a fork | 21:43 | |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-04-21.00.html | 21:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-04-21.00.txt | 21:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-02-04-21.00.log.html | 21:43 |
| dansmith | bewm.. smell ya'll later | 21:43 |
| auggy | Vek: yeah that was the one i was thinking of | 21:43 |
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| Vek | auggy: feel free to take it over; looks like Monty's more or less abandoned it... | 21:44 |
| auggy | err | 21:44 |
| bauzas | \o | 21:44 |
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| auggy | or maybe that's not it, i have no idea | 21:45 |
| auggy | \o | 21:45 |
| Vek | heh :) | 21:45 |
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| rdopiera | night | 21:48 |
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| HenryG | armax? | 22:01 |
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| * carl_baldwin is in the right place? | 22:01 | |
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| * HenryG thinks so | 22:01 | |
| armax | hi | 22:01 |
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| armax | shall we start? | 22:01 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Feb 4 22:01:57 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:02 |
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| armax | kevinbenton, mestery, dougwig, HenryG, carl_baldwin, amotoki | 22:02 |
| armax | ping | 22:02 |
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| HenryG | o/ | 22:02 |
| carl_baldwin | pong | 22:02 |
| * mestery waves | 22:02 | |
| armax | hi folks | 22:02 |
| longstaff | hi | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | hi | 22:02 |
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| armax | akihiro might be a little late I guess | 22:03 |
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| armax | anyhoo | 22:03 |
| armax | if you guys recall last week we took a pause | 22:03 |
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| armax | and chose to go over the list of rfe approved bugs to assess where they are | 22:03 |
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| armax | we didn’t finish the whole list | 22:03 |
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| armax | I’d say let’s keep on going | 22:04 |
| armax | as I am sure some stuff we’ll have to be pruned | 22:04 |
| armax | bug 1476527 | 22:04 |
| openstack | bug 1476527 in neutron "RFE - Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1476527 | 22:04 |
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| armax | I recall sc68cal was driving this initiative | 22:04 |
| armax | not sure what the latest is | 22:05 |
| sc68cal | hello | 22:05 |
| armax | there is a a bunch of code landed | 22:05 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-classifier | 22:05 |
| sc68cal | It's in progress - we have code up and are working on it - so really I think that bug can be set to "fix committed" | 22:05 |
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| armax | sc68cal: ok, so the code is not ready to be used across the various neutron initiatives | 22:06 |
| HenryG | I don't think we use that state any longer? | 22:06 |
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| sc68cal | armax: no not yet | 22:06 |
| sc68cal | so ... in progress? | 22:06 |
| armax | sc68cal: but it’s moving? | 22:06 |
| sc68cal | yep - have a patch for fwaas v2 that uses it | 22:07 |
| armax | sc68cal: any chance you could provide a status update on teh bug report when you get a minute? | 22:07 |
| armax | sc68cal: nice | 22:07 |
| sc68cal | armax: will do | 22:07 |
| armax | thanks pal | 22:07 |
| armax | bug 1480979 | 22:07 |
| openstack | bug 1480979 in neutron "[RFE] Adding macvtap ml2 driver and agent" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1480979 - Assigned to Andreas Scheuring (andreas-scheuring) | 22:07 |
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| armax | is anyone around who can provide a gist on this one? | 22:08 |
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| armax | this doesn’t look any closer to the target | 22:09 |
| sc68cal | I probably can comment a little - I saw that some changes to the Linux Bridge agent landed that lay the groundwork | 22:09 |
| HenryG | I can sync up with Andreas tomorrow and we can update the bug | 22:09 |
| armax | that would be great | 22:09 |
| armax | right now this isn’t on the M3 dashboard | 22:09 |
| armax | it’s unclear if we have 1 or 10 patches more to go | 22:09 |
| HenryG | I will ask those questions | 22:10 |
| armax | bear in mind that this relates to blueprint modular-l2-agent | 22:10 |
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| armax | mostly it’s reshuffling of code but I can’t see any feature getting close to completion | 22:10 |
| HenryG | yep | 22:10 |
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| armax | bug 1483480 | 22:11 |
| openstack | bug 1483480 in neutron "[RFE] Allow annotations on Neutron resources" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1483480 - Assigned to James Dempsey (jamespd) | 22:11 |
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| armax | ok, code is up | 22:11 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/269887/ | 22:11 |
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| armax | a core will have to review it | 22:11 |
| armax | one of these should be kevinbenton I believe | 22:12 |
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| armax | but the guy didn’t use the standardattribute table | 22:12 |
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| armax | not sure if he was talked out of it | 22:12 |
| armax | or he blatantly ignored comment #6 | 22:12 |
| kevinbenton | well to be fair none of the other descriptions are in standard attr | 22:13 |
| armax | anyone? | 22:13 |
| armax | kevinbenton: ok | 22:14 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: I am fine to have this on security groups only | 22:14 |
| armax | but I don’t recall other resources having a description field | 22:15 |
| armax | bug 1489291 | 22:16 |
| openstack | bug 1489291 in neutron "[RFE] Add tags to neutron resources" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1489291 - Assigned to Gal Sagie (gal-sagie) | 22:16 |
| armax | there’s code here: | 22:16 |
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| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273881/ | 22:16 |
| armax | this will also need eys | 22:16 |
| armax | eyes | 22:16 |
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| armax | the bp is assigned to amotoki | 22:17 |
| armax | but he hasn’t looked at it yet | 22:17 |
| armax | I’ll reach out to both of them offline | 22:17 |
| armax | anyone else has anything to add? | 22:18 |
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| armax | folks, it’s the middle of the afternoon….you no longer have the excuse of caffeine deprivation | 22:18 |
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| mestery | armax: Your typed words are lulling us all to sleep | 22:18 |
| kevinbenton | well do you want us all to say "no" when you ask that? | 22:18 |
| armax | stay with me will ya? | 22:18 |
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| * carl_baldwin here with you | 22:19 | |
| armax | kevinbenton: anything other that utter silence | 22:19 |
| armax | :) | 22:19 |
| armax | anyhooooo | 22:19 |
| armax | bug 1492714 | 22:19 |
| openstack | bug 1492714 in neutron "RFE: Pure Python driven Linux network configuration" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1492714 - Assigned to Li Ma (nick-ma-z) | 22:19 |
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| kevinbenton | depends on privsep | 22:19 |
| armax | I am pretty sure this is stuck behind privsep | 22:19 |
| armax | yup | 22:19 |
| armax | so it’ll be pulled out of M | 22:20 |
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| armax | bug 1496802 | 22:20 |
| openstack | bug 1496802 in neutron "[RFE] Stop duplicating schema for common attributes" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496802 - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 22:20 |
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| kevinbenton | what is this crap? | 22:20 |
| armax | is related to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/add-timestamp-attr | 22:20 |
| armax | kevinbenton: have you been looking at the patches from the owner? | 22:21 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:zhaobo6%2540huawei.com+status:open | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | i mean isn't the that bug sort of done? | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | yes, i've been reviewing the timestamp patches | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | over the last two days we've made good progress | 22:21 |
| armax | kevinbenton: how are they like? | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | simplifying them quite a bit still | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | but they should be pretty nicely done using 'modern neutron' | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | callbacks and the standard attr | 22:22 |
| armax | kevinbenton: do you have confidence this can stay on the M3 dashboard? | 22:22 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: yes | 22:22 |
| armax | kevinbenton: nice | 22:22 |
| armax | ok | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i'm working with the owner to move it along | 22:22 |
| armax | kevinbenton: aren’t you a start | 22:22 |
| armax | star | 22:22 |
| armax | bug 1500012 | 22:22 |
| openstack | bug 1500012 in neutron "[RFE] QoS driver for LinuxBridge Agent" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1500012 - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 22:22 |
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| armax | both patches in conflict | 22:23 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:slawek%2540kaplonski.pl+status:open,n,z | 22:23 |
| armax | bug 1502297 | 22:24 |
| openstack | bug 1502297 in neutron "[RFE] Improve SG performance as VMs/containers scale on compute node" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1502297 - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 22:24 |
| armax | kevinbenton: this looks like case closed? | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i was hoping from some more operator feedback | 22:25 |
| kevinbenton | armax: because there is one more optimization i can make if necessary | 22:25 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: i'd say mark as closed and see if anyone complains about liberty performance | 22:25 |
| armax | kevinbenton: sounds good | 22:25 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: perhaps document on the bug the other optmization you have in mind? | 22:26 |
| armax | if you get a minute? | 22:26 |
| armax | bug 1504039 | 22:26 |
| openstack | bug 1504039 in neutron "[RFE] Linuxbridge DVR" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1504039 - Assigned to Hirofumi Ichihara (ichihara-hirofumi) | 22:26 |
| armax | this hasn’t had any meaningful review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255174/ | 22:26 |
| carl_baldwin | Who is approver on this one? | 22:26 |
| armax | is there anyone outta there who cares on linuxbridge? | 22:27 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: this doesn’t have a blueprint associated with it | 22:27 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: so techincally speaking it has no approver | 22:27 |
| armax | but we should all collectively chime in | 22:27 |
| armax | I have been meaning to look at it..but my linuxbridge skills are slim | 22:28 |
| * sc68cal looks | 22:28 | |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Fell off my radar. I can bring it up with the other DVR guys. | 22:28 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: that would be good | 22:28 |
| armax | I need to get a sense of who is actively looking into maintaining linuxbridge these days | 22:29 |
| armax | we can’t rely on super sc68cal alone | 22:29 |
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| armax | bug 1508155 | 22:29 |
| openstack | bug 1508155 in neutron "[RFE] NFTables Firewall Driver" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508155 | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | i keep an eye on bugs related to it as well | 22:29 |
| kevinbenton | just haven't been working on features | 22:29 |
| armax | kevinbenton: thanks, it seems the gate is relatively unrested these days | 22:29 |
| armax | you may want to have a peep into https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1523638 | 22:30 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1523638 in tempest "tempest fails with No IPv4 addresses found" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Andreas Scheuring (andreas-scheuring) | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | ack | 22:30 |
| armax | I was going to look into it later | 22:30 |
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| sc68cal | yeah I hit a wall on that one | 22:30 |
| armax | we’ll have fun triaging this together | 22:30 |
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| sc68cal | it left me scratching my head | 22:30 |
| armax | as for the nftable bug | 22:30 |
| armax | this hasn’t got an owner | 22:30 |
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| kevinbenton | kick out of M | 22:31 |
| armax | so most likely it’ll have to be nuked | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | but i would like to look at it for N | 22:31 |
| armax | bug 1511574 | 22:31 |
| openstack | bug 1511574 in neutron "[RFE] Support cleanup of all resources associated with a given tenant" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511574 - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 22:31 |
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| armax | some code popped up | 22:31 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275460/ | 22:31 |
| armax | amuller is not around | 22:31 |
| HenryG | Hard to say if it will make M. It needs more pieces? | 22:33 |
| armax | clearly the submitter forgot to notice https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1511574/comments/18 | 22:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1511574 in neutron "[RFE] Support cleanup of all resources associated with a given tenant" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 22:33 |
| armax | and went on a tangent | 22:33 |
| armax | how lovely | 22:33 |
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| HenryG | No | 22:33 |
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| HenryG | It moved from neutron to client | 22:34 |
| armax | this is nuts | 22:34 |
| armax | it did? | 22:34 |
| armax | where’s the code? | 22:34 |
| HenryG | The server side was "abandoned" | 22:34 |
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| HenryG | "We don't do orchestration" :) | 22:34 |
| armax | HenryG: no it wasn’t | 22:34 |
| armax | HenryG: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275460/1 | 22:34 |
| armax | anyhoo | 22:35 |
| armax | bug 1512587 | 22:35 |
| openstack | bug 1512587 in neutron "[RFE] Role-based Access Control for QoS policies" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512587 - Assigned to Haim Daniel (hdaniel) | 22:35 |
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| armax | this doesn’t look anywhere near to merge | 22:36 |
| armax | bug 1512666 | 22:36 |
| openstack | bug 1512666 in neutron "[RFE] Allow for per-subnet/network dhcp options" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512666 - Assigned to Sam Betts (sambetts) | 22:36 |
| armax | the owner came out of the shadows recently afaik | 22:37 |
| HenryG | armax: regarding cleanup, see bug 1541527 | 22:37 |
| openstack | bug 1541527 in python-neutronclient "[RFE] Support cleanup of all resources associated with a given tenant" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541527 - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 22:37 |
| armax | that’s silly | 22:37 |
| armax | we don’t need a separate bug | 22:37 |
| armax | bah | 22:37 |
| armax | this is ludicrous | 22:37 |
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| armax | bug 1516156 | 22:40 |
| openstack | bug 1516156 in neutron "[RFE] IPAM migration from non-pluggable to pluggable" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516156 - Assigned to Pavel Bondar (pasha117) | 22:40 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: you’ve been keeping an eye on this one? | 22:40 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: yes. There is one open question on the ML toady. | 22:40 |
| carl_baldwin | today | 22:40 |
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| armax | ok | 22:41 |
| armax | link to ml? | 22:41 |
| carl_baldwin | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085767.html | 22:41 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: read my mind | 22:41 |
| carl_baldwin | After that is decided, I think it can be wrapped up quickly. | 22:41 |
| armax | sweet | 22:41 |
| carl_baldwin | There is code up that does it with an alembic migration. | 22:41 |
| armax | do you need my opinion? | 22:41 |
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| carl_baldwin | Wouldn't mind yours and Salv's. | 22:42 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: ok, noted | 22:42 |
| armax | salv-orl_: ping ping | 22:42 |
| armax | ^^ | 22:42 |
| * carl_baldwin wasn't sure salv-orl_ would be around still. | 22:43 | |
| armax | bug 1516195 | 22:43 |
| openstack | bug 1516195 in neutron "[RFE] Push all object information in AMQP notifications" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1516195 - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 22:43 |
| armax | kevinbenton: we’re waiting for a respin here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225995/ | 22:43 |
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| armax | and maybe some PoC? | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:44 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: anything else to add? | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | no | 22:44 |
| armax | bug 1517903 | 22:44 |
| openstack | bug 1517903 in neutron "[RFE] Add agent specific API for l2 agent extensions" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1517903 - Assigned to David Shaughnessy (david-shaughnessy) | 22:44 |
| armax | this needs a blessing here: | 22:45 |
| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263819/ | 22:45 |
| armax | someone kind enough just do a sanity check and we’ll get that off on its way | 22:45 |
| armax | code should be relatively trivial afaik | 22:45 |
| armax | but that’s only the tip of the iceberg | 22:45 |
| salv-orl_ | I am around, but in another meeting | 22:45 |
| salv-orl_ | anything I might still help with? | 22:45 |
| armax | salv-orl_: there’s a ML thread you’ve been summoned to respond to | 22:46 |
| armax | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085767.html | 22:46 |
| armax | bug 1521291 | 22:46 |
| openstack | bug 1521291 in neutron "[RFE] Transition neutron CLI from python-neutronclient to python-openstackclient" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521291 - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 22:46 |
| armax | I am sure this won’t be wrapped in time for mitaka, but I believe the effort is ongoing | 22:46 |
| salv-orl_ | armax: I will unleash my bike shedding skills on it | 22:46 |
| armax | salv-orl_: we all love you for them | 22:47 |
| armax | unleash away | 22:47 |
| armax | rtheis: ping | 22:47 |
| rtheis | hi | 22:47 |
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| armax | can you provide a status update on bug 1521291? | 22:47 |
| openstack | bug 1521291 in neutron "[RFE] Transition neutron CLI from python-neutronclient to python-openstackclient" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521291 - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 22:47 |
| armax | even on the bug report page is fine | 22:47 |
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| rtheis | sure | 22:48 |
| armax | and you and I can talk offline on what’s needed to support you | 22:48 |
| armax | rtheis: thanks! | 22:48 |
| armax | bug 1523219 | 22:48 |
| rtheis | yw | 22:48 |
| openstack | bug 1523219 in neutron "[RFE] Add support X-Forwarded-For header in LBaaSv2" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523219 - Assigned to Kobi Samoray (ksamoray) | 22:48 |
| armax | dougwig: is this close | 22:48 |
| armax | ? | 22:48 |
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| armax | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/neutron-lbaas+owner:ksamoray%2540vmware.com+status:open | 22:49 |
| armax | might be EOD | 22:49 |
| armax | thumbleweeds | 22:50 |
| armax | bug 1523231 | 22:50 |
| openstack | bug 1523231 in neutron "[RFE] Add string/pattern checks to LBaaSv2 HTTP/HTTPS health monitors" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1523231 - Assigned to Kobi Samoray (ksamoray) | 22:50 |
| armax | may share the same fate | 22:50 |
| armax | that’s easy enough | 22:50 |
| armax | bug 1537971 I suspect is somewhat duplicate of 1496802 | 22:51 |
| openstack | bug 1537971 in neutron "[RFE] Add timestamp to neutron resources" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1537971 - Assigned to zhaobo (zhaobo6) | 22:51 |
| armax | that’s another example of how screwed up we are when we report stuff | 22:51 |
| armax | all right | 22:51 |
| armax | anyone has anything to add in the next 9 minutes of your hour? | 22:51 |
| armax | not everybody at once | 22:52 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: Nice job! Got through the list. | 22:52 |
| armax | ok | 22:52 |
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| HenryG | armax is the best! | 22:52 |
| armax | thanks for joining and keep up the good work | 22:52 |
| armax | not | 22:52 |
| armax | :) | 22:52 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Feb 4 22:52:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-02-04-22.01.html | 22:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-02-04-22.01.txt | 22:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-02-04-22.01.log.html | 22:52 |
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| armax | thanks guys | 22:52 |
| armax | ttyl | 22:53 |
| mestery | thanks armax | 22:53 |
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| fitoduarte | wait sorry armax. | 22:53 |
| fitoduarte | i need a follow up on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143169/ | 22:54 |
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