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alex_xunova api meeting in 5 mins11:55
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alex_xu#startmeeting nova api12:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Jul 31 12:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.12:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.12:00
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alex_xuhello, anyone at here today?12:00
gmann_o/12:00
alex_xugmann_: hello!12:00
kumarhello12:01
alex_xukumar: welcome12:01
alex_xuone more minute for waiting for more people12:03
gmann_yea12:03
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gmann_johnthetubaguy might be away as he mentioned in ML12:03
alex_xugmann_: ok, I may hope johnthetubaguy and sdague can update some midcycle news to us12:04
gmann_alex_xu: yea, that would be nice12:04
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alex_xugmann_: if they aren't here, let do that next week12:04
gmann_ye12:04
gmann_yea12:04
sdaguehey folks12:04
alex_xu#topic  status of liberty priority items12:05
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alex_xusdague: hey, just waiting for you :)12:05
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-novaclient+branch:master+topic:bp/keypair-x509-certificates,n,z12:05
sdagueso I think the biggest items from the midcycle was the bits of the API that we are sure we need landed12:05
sdague1. the schema relaxation12:06
sdague2. the paste changes to default v2.0 on v2.112:06
sdague3. the client changes12:06
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alex_xuclient changes means microversion client?12:06
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sdagueyes12:07
gmann_sdague: 2 point, it means we can get rid of all v2 code also or later?12:08
sdaguegmann_: it should be deprecated if it's enabled12:08
sdaguewe'll want some way to warn people if they have that code stack loaded12:08
sdagueI expect it will be a couple of cycles before we can delete it12:08
gmann_sdague: ohk12:09
alex_xusdague: I saw https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-summit-action-items mention remove extension, it looks like action for you?12:09
sdagueyes, I need to write up the document for that12:09
sdagueI'm working on a LinuxCon presentation today, but will try to do that next week12:10
alex_xusdague: ok, there is spec https://review.openstack.org/202900 , just initial version, so let me waiting for your doc.12:10
alex_xusdague: ok12:10
sdaguelooking12:10
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sdaguealex_xu: ok, I'll work from there, I think this is going to be more in the dev ref12:11
alex_xusdague: ok, no problem12:11
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sdagueI did get the when you need a microversion guide up - http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api_microversion_dev.html - now with flowchart12:12
alex_xusdague: thanks, that's cool12:12
gmann_sdague: yea, flowchart was really nice12:12
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alex_xusdague: so we can still add more thing, when we found more? looks like this case https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189544/ didn't include in it.12:13
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sdaguealex_xu: sure, that's just a bug on the existing implementation, right?12:14
sdaguekenichi still has that as WIP12:14
alex_xusdague: that is provide more strict validation12:14
gmann_sdague: alex_xu : Actually that came from https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/143417212:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1434172 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "security group create errors without description" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Adrien Vergé (adrien-verge)12:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1434172 in nova "security group create errors without description" [Low,In progress]12:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1434172 in nova "security group create errors without description" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143417212:16
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sdaguegmann_: right, I thought that was mostly a client side issue12:16
alex_xugmann_: sdague , this is the server side fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/192043/12:17
alex_xuand that fix is used to backport12:17
alex_xuso I think adding json-schema need new microverion12:17
sdagueso, description is not supposed to be manditory12:18
sdagueI feel like that's fixing the bug in the wrong direction12:19
gmann_sdague: alex_xu : yea, that is optional but nova expected that mandatory12:19
sdaguegmann_: right, but the docs say it is optional12:19
gmann_yea12:19
alex_xusdague: nova-network expect mandatory, but neutron not12:19
sdaguealex_xu: right, but that's a bug12:19
sdagueit's supposed to be optional12:19
sdagueand it used to be12:19
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sdagueat some point it stopped being12:19
gmann_alex_xu: :) that was main issue and its end up having json-schema adjustment etc12:20
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alex_xusdague: ok...if we make it optional, then we need a microversion?12:20
sdaguealex_xu: honestly, I don't think so, because being non optional is a new buggy behavior12:20
sdaguewe should fix it and back port the fix12:20
gmann_alex_xu: IMO, its just bug and we just fix what Nova published in doc12:20
alex_xuI guess that api behavior like that for a long time12:21
sdaguealex_xu: no, I think it was impacted by the jsonschema changes12:21
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sdagueit really hasn't been like this for very long12:21
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alex_xusdague: it also a bug for v2 api?12:22
gmann_sdague: we have same for v2 code base too. we do not have security grp schema just python code validation for name and description12:22
sdaguegmann_: hmmm...12:22
sdagueI really really thought we didn't need this before12:23
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sdaguebut if it's been here forever, I guess we can enforce it everywhere12:23
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alex_xusdague: let me check the code later, and feedback on the patch. if it's been here forever, then we fix it in the right direction, right?12:24
sdaguealex_xu: correct12:24
alex_xusdague: ok12:24
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alex_xuany question on midcycle meetup? then we move on12:25
gmann_https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/contrib/security_groups.py#L20112:25
alex_xugmann_: yea12:26
gmann_alex_xu: also you might want to look -https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183909/512:26
gmann_which tried to fix that12:26
alex_xugmann_: similar fix with ken'ichi one?12:27
alex_xugmann_: let me check that later, let us move on12:27
gmann_alex_xu: cannot remember actually, needs to look12:27
gmann_ye12:27
alex_xugmann_: ok, thanks, will take a look12:27
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-novaclient+branch:master+topic:bp/keypair-x509-certificates,n,z12:28
alex_xu^ microversion client patch on good shape12:28
alex_xuI work on those patches before andrey back from vacation12:28
alex_xuhope we can merge them soon. we already have 2.9 on server side!12:29
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/api-relax-validation,n,z12:29
alex_xuthis on good shape also12:29
alex_xusdague: gmann_ hope you can take a look at the check I added for ensure the test running on right wsgi stack12:30
gmann_alex_xu: yea, thanks12:30
alex_xugmann_: np12:30
gmann_alex_xu: ll look12:30
alex_xugmann_: thanks12:30
sdaguealex_xu: I'll try, I've got to get this presentation into shape before I really dive back into much code or review12:31
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alex_xusdague: ok, no problem, no hurry12:31
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alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:merge_sample_tests,n,z12:31
alex_xugmann_: ^ I think just left few patches12:32
alex_xusame as the policy stuff12:32
alex_xu#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/nova-api-policy-final-part,n,z12:32
gmann_alex_xu: yea, but after those gets merged i need 2-3 patches to cleanup remaining thing some TODO things12:32
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alex_xugmann_: cool12:32
alex_xuok, that is all priority items we tracked12:33
alex_xuany question?12:33
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alex_xuok, let move mon12:34
alex_xu#topic open12:34
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alex_xugmann_: ^ your turn, I saw some item from you12:34
gmann_alex_xu: yea12:34
gmann_sdague: lock patch- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202391/12:34
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gmann_spec is merged12:35
sdagueoh, great, I'll take a look12:35
alex_xugmann_: did johnthetubaguy agree on we can merge this even after freeze?12:35
sdaguealex_xu: yes12:35
alex_xusdague: ok, cool, let me try help on review also12:35
gmann_sdague: humm, actually we were on spec thing but i did not confirm from johnthetubaguy that we can merge or not12:36
sdagueok, I just approved it12:36
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gmann_sdague: Thanks12:36
alex_xuheh, cool12:36
sdagueI'm going to provide an update to the docs as a follow up patch12:36
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gmann_sdague: ohk, Thanks a lot12:36
gmann_next if v2.1 VIF net-id bug - to remove VIF from v2.1 extension list - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198934/12:37
gmann_master one is approved12:37
gmann_Need review for Kilo backport too - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198944/12:37
gmann_sdague: can you please look so that both can go in togehter12:38
alex_xugmann_: cool, thanks for the fix12:38
gmann_but no hurry on this in case you busy with presentation :). i think this cn go later too as this is bug fix12:39
gmann_alex_xu: np12:39
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alex_xugmann_: yea, it is a bug fix, we didn't freeze for it12:39
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alex_xuany open?12:40
alex_xukumar: anything we can help?12:40
gmann_alex_xu:  even I need to update doc also to mention the diff between v2 and v2.1. Will try to do next week12:40
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alex_xugmann_: cool, that is useful12:41
kumar#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/183716/12:41
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alex_xukumar: hope api team review on the api part?12:42
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alex_xukumar: are you stil here?12:44
kumari have no idea on api review, but was looking for availability zones with cells12:44
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alex_xukumar: looks like you should looking for help on nova weekly meeting. this meeting is more specific on nova api.12:46
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kumaralex_xu i have got this review on our api list - liberty design12:47
alex_xukumar: which list?12:47
kumarunder scheduler list12:49
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sdaguekumar: REST API ?12:50
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alex_xu...let free the meeting first.12:52
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sdagueyeh, I think we're done12:52
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alex_xukumar: let's move to openstack-nova channel, I guess we can get more help12:53
sdagueI guess the only other thing I had was about the Nova API docs12:53
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sdagueI was reading them on the plane on the way home, and they are really really out of date at this point12:53
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sdaguethey basically describe the API circa 201112:53
sdagueI really feel like we need to figure out how to get that to something more current12:53
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alex_xusdague: you mean this https://github.com/russell/fairy-slipper?12:54
sdaguebecause if people have to read the Nova code to use the API, we've failed12:54
sdagueno12:54
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gmann_sdague: API ref docs12:54
alex_xusdague: this one http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html?12:55
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sdagueI mean http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/v2/2.0_general_info.html12:55
sdagueI think there has been far too much focus on a magic solution here, but the concept guide is the thing that people actually need12:56
gmann_alex_xu: sdague : yea even ref doc has some URL  wrong , I saw recently while doing JSON-Home stuff12:56
sdagueso, honestly, I feel like json home needs to go on the back burner until we explain what we have. Or have some metric on docs matching reality12:57
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sdaguebecause the current state of things is really bad12:57
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sdagueanyway, I'll kick off a thread about it next week. But we need a documentation plan, and I don't feel like we have one12:59
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alex_xusdague: yea12:59
alex_xuv2.1 is also mess12:59
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gmann_yea12:59
alex_xunot sure https://github.com/russell/fairy-slipper can ready for Liberty13:00
sdagueso I honestly think, that after the bits to get v2.1 working and v2.0 on v2.113:00
sdaguethat writing documentation is the most important thing13:00
sdaguebecause we have a huge debt there13:00
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alex_xusdague: yea, agree13:01
alex_xuok, let see your thread, then see how we can figure out a plan13:01
sdagueok, got to run, thanks folks13:01
alex_xuand the meeting is out of time13:01
gmann_yea13:01
alex_xuthanks all13:02
alex_xu#endmeeting13:02
gmann_Thanks sdague13:02
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gmann_Thanks all13:02
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kumaralex_xu : thanks13:02
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schwickehi all16:00
raildohey :)16:01
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ericksonfgdsHello16:01
schwicke#startmeeting hierarchical_multitenancy16:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Jul 31 16:01:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is schwicke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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schwickewhom do we have today ?16:02
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sajeeshHi:-)16:02
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schwicke#topic review of action items16:02
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schwickelet's start with the actions from last meeting.16:03
ericksonfgdsok16:03
schwickeThanks for running the meeting!16:03
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raildo#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2015/hierarchical_multitenancy.2015-07-24-16.03.html16:03
schwickesajeesh, raildo in Nova side, try merge the initial patches related16:03
schwicke    to allocated column and setting default values to subprojects16:03
schwickehow far are we with this ?16:04
sajeeshReview is going on and we are making changes according to the review16:04
schwickeok16:05
raildoin fact, sajeesh was most responsible for this, so this week I work in update the keystone calls code, and refactoring the last patches16:05
schwickeok, great !16:05
raildothe good news that we we some nova cores looking in the code16:05
sajeeshyes16:05
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sajeeshraildo..thanks a lot for your help :-)16:06
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schwicke+116:06
raildosajeesh: you're welcome :)16:06
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sajeeshIt is a big change and concentrating on multiple areas at the same time is difficult..so your help is really needed16:07
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schwickeThere are still a few tests failing in the automatic build16:08
schwickeare those understood ?16:09
raildosure.. I'm trying do my best with code... let's see if we can have this merge asap16:09
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raildoschwicke: yeap.. in this next week, my main goal is fix all the tempest/others test16:09
sajeeshschwicke...I am planning to work on that in this weekend16:09
raildoand finally have all the patches working nice with jenkins16:09
sajeeshyes16:10
schwickeok. great!16:10
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schwicke#action raildo and sajeesh will work on the remaining tests which are still failing in the next days16:10
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sajeeshAFAIK there are no roadblocks ...It can be solved16:11
schwickewhat are the python errors about ?16:11
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sajeeshI think It is due to some quota dependency ...I need to patch it16:12
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raildothe last time that i saw the log, I found some errors to unrelated tests, probably some erros on rebase...16:12
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raildoI need to take a look on it, with more time.16:12
schwicke#link http://logs.openstack.org/28/149828/36/check/gate-nova-python34/c098433/16:12
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sajeeshthat is also a possibility16:13
schwicke#link http://logs.openstack.org/28/149828/36/check/gate-nova-python27/cfcf9e7/16:13
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raildosomething like that "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'MaxRetriesExceeded'"16:14
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sajeeshthat may be a rebase error16:14
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schwickeI think that if we manage to pass jenkins tests it would put us into a better position to ask for a code freeze exception16:14
sajeeshyes16:14
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schwickeif it is easy to rebase let's do it and see if that helps already16:14
sajeeshwe will try16:15
raildoI have made a rebase/refactoring today... just waiting fot the jenkins response16:15
sajeeshok16:15
schwickeok16:15
sajeeshschwicke....there are 5 changes and out of that 4 are fully under control....16:15
sajeeshand final one is the one which is giving some errors16:16
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schwickeI see16:17
schwickeI'd love to get this stuff into liberty still16:17
schwicke#topic timelines16:17
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sajeeshwe will try our level best16:17
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schwickewhat is the dead line to ask for a code freeze exception ?16:18
schwickeIMO we should do that asap and try to get it in16:18
sajeeshthere is still some hope left16:18
sajeeshAug-616:18
sajeeshI will request with in one or two days....I haven't seen any request yet16:19
schwickeso let's try to get the jenkins stuff fixed asap and then file the request ?16:19
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sajeeshschwicke ++116:19
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schwicke#agreed fix jenkins errors if possible then file a code freeze exception request well before 6/816:20
schwickevery good.16:20
raildobtw, I think that we need to talk with the nova cores, to ask for this FFE16:20
raildotalk before send it...16:21
schwickeyes.16:21
raildojust to try get some more support on it16:21
sajeesh++116:21
schwicke++116:21
ericksonfgdssounds good16:21
schwickere-occuring question: what is the best way to do that ?16:21
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raildoirc channel :)16:22
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vilobhmmhi everyone16:22
raildojust ping the guys and explain our view16:22
schwickeI htink in the past we explicitly put some of them onto the code reviewer list as well16:22
vilobhmmsorry got caught in the traffic and was delayed for the meeting16:22
raildohey vilobhmm16:22
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schwickeHi, vilobhmm16:22
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vilobhmmhello schwicke, raildo16:22
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vilobhmmare we talking about the nova code and code exception16:23
ericksonfgdsI think that put it as a topic in the nova weekly meeting is a good idea as well16:23
ericksonfgdsHi, vilobhmm16:23
vilobhmmhello eric16:23
schwicke+116:23
sajeeshhi vilobh16:23
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raildosure, I can put this in the meeting and talk with the nova folks16:23
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schwickeok great!16:24
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schwicke#action Raildo will add an entry on the nova meeting agenda and contact the nova core team16:24
sajeeshraildo, will it be better to talk after  clearing the jenkin's test ?16:24
vilobhmmhttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova16:24
vilobhmmwe all should try to be present16:24
vilobhmmand show representation as a group16:24
sajeesh++116:25
schwickesajeesh: if we manage I think that is the best strategy16:25
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ericksonfgdsbut to get a code exception it's good to have at least some of the patches with +1 from jenkins16:25
vilobhmmyes16:25
vilobhmmagree16:25
schwicke+116:25
sajeeshok.16:25
ericksonfgdsso, I think it is a must to test our code in our own environment, to check if the tests are passing, whenever possible, before upload  it to gerrit.16:25
sajeesh+116:25
raildoIf think this is important to the FFE email... I just to say "hey guys, we are working a lot with this... and this will be really important, please review"16:25
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ericksonfgdsSo we don't waste time  of reviewers with broken tests.16:25
schwickethat is why I'm pushing so hard to have the remaining tests go through16:26
raildoI just want*16:26
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sajeesh++116:26
schwicke++116:26
vilobhmmcan someone work with sajeesh for next week or so….to help make sure that jenkins shows + 116:26
ericksonfgdsraildo, ++16:27
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ericksonfgdsraildo is already helping sajeesh16:27
sajeesh++116:27
raildovilobhmm: We have a action added, I'll work with him16:27
vilobhmmoh okay thats awesome !16:27
sajeeshthanks a lot :-)16:27
schwickeI can try to ping Tim to raise the importance of this for CERN16:27
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vilobhmmschwicke : that will really help…i will ask someone from yahoo to join16:28
sajeeshschwicke ++116:28
sajeeshvilobh ++116:28
schwickein case he's around maybe I could ask him to participate in the nova meeting16:28
vilobhmmperfect16:28
schwicke#action schwicke will talk to Tim and ask him to participate in the nova meeting16:28
sajeeshI think Andrey can also help us16:28
raildosajeesh: sure16:28
raildoI'll talk with him16:29
sajeeshok..thanks raildo16:29
vilobhmmIf we are done with this topic would like to give cinder update16:31
sajeeshok16:31
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schwicke#action raildo will contact Andrey asking for help as well16:31
sajeeshvilobh..u  had told that cinder deadline is on August end ...what is the date ?16:31
ericksonfgdsthe code freeze is in the first week of September16:32
schwickegood point16:32
schwickeso there we have a bit more time16:32
sajeeshthat is good16:32
vilobhmmsajeesh : right as eric pointed16:32
sajeeshok..we have time16:33
vilobhmmNeeds Code Review :-16:33
vilobhmmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/206171/ - Nested Quota Driver: Get Project Hierarchy16:33
vilobhmmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/205369/ - Cinder Nested Quota Driver16:33
vilobhmmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/206170/4 - Fix get default quota values for subprojects16:33
vilobhmmAlready Merged :-16:33
vilobhmmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/185704/ - Nested Quota : Create allocated column in cinder.quotas16:33
vilobhmmhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/194406/ - Nested Quota: Set default values to subproject16:33
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sajeeshok16:34
ericksonfgdsonce vilobhmm and I have done with cinder, if there is still time, I can help with nova code.16:34
vilobhmmout of the things that need review only https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205369/ - Cinder Nested Quota Driver has some jenkins problem but should be fixed soon….other than that we are in pretty good shape16:34
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vilobhmmi can also help sajeesh when done with cinder code16:34
schwickethat's very good news!16:34
sajeesherickson, vilobh ...thanks a lot :-)16:35
ericksonfgdsnp16:35
ericksonfgds:)16:35
vilobhmmi would appreciate if you all can chip in for the things that needs to be reviewed for cinder16:35
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schwickeI wonder if it would make sense to try to help sajeesh now and return to cinder after that is sorted out. Would that not make more sense ?16:35
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schwickejust because we still have a bit more time left for cinder16:36
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ericksonfgdsvilobhmm, in fact, it is missing one +1 workflow in order to get this patch merged: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/206170/416:36
vilobhmmschwicke : we would loose focus IMHO…16:36
ericksonfgdsI agree with vilobhmm16:36
schwickemaybe you are right16:36
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vilobhmmonce we get a green signal from nova folks that nested quota can go in liberty16:37
sajeeshI also think so16:37
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vilobhmmwe all can work together if needed but for now I would prefer cinder going in first and then serving as a reference model for rest of the projects in openstack who want to incorporate nested quota driver16:38
vilobhmmschwicke : ^^16:38
vilobhmmaw thats it from me….and thats about cinder update16:38
vilobhmmalso I would like to appreciate the work done by ericsonfgds16:39
sajeeshyes16:39
ericksonfgdsthanks :)16:39
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vilobhmmhe has been very helpful and instrumental and we both have worked well as a team IMHO16:39
vilobhmmschwicke, raildo, rodrigo : ^^16:40
sajeeshok..great16:40
ericksonfgdsvilobhmm, you too, the working is flowing and that's nice.16:40
ericksonfgdswork*16:40
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raildoso.. I think that we don't have to change this now.16:41
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vilobhmmchange what raildo ?16:42
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raildoyou and ericksonfgds working on cinder :)16:42
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vilobhmmok..sounds good :) atleast till changes for cinder are in…16:43
schwicke#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova16:43
vilobhmmalso the thing is there is an operators midcycle in second week of august16:43
vilobhmmin california16:43
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vilobhmmso there also nested quota will be raised as an enhancement by the operators16:44
vilobhmmwe can stress that as well if needed to get an exception16:44
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schwickedo you have a link ?16:44
vilobhmmit will be in second week of august schwicke16:44
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vilobhmmbecause atleast the operators from yahoo are going to talk about that requirement for sure16:45
vilobhmmi will send the etherpad link if i get some…16:45
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vilobhmmdo we have anything else to discuss ?16:46
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schwicke#agreed developments teams are left as they are. No need to re-arrange priorities for now16:47
sajeeshvilobh,erickson....if we are getting exception we will get free exception on August-6 and the code has to merged by Aug-10.It will be nice if we can get some help from you during that period without breaking your flow16:47
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sajeeshas we had agreed let us don't change the priorities now16:48
sajeeshshwicke ++116:48
vilobhmmsajeesh : for sure16:48
ericksonfgdssajeesh, sure! I'll try to help in that period.16:48
schwickewe should have a checkpoint on skype eg on Monday16:48
sajeeshthanks a lot :-)16:48
vilobhmmmeanwhile the changes that are done for cinder minimizes lot of code duplication16:48
schwickethanks ! ericksonfqds16:48
schwickeThat's all I wanted to discuss today16:49
schwicke#topic AOB16:49
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vilobhmmand in-order to use similar changes for nova…will need to bring nova to that state IMHO…nova still has lot of code duplication16:49
ericksonfgdssajeesh, schwicke: you're welcome :)16:49
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sajeeshvilobh ...it has not been decided whether to keep a separate class for nested quota or not16:50
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sajeeshif we are keeping a separate class there will be code duplication16:50
schwickecan we try to get the code merged as it is now and then optimize ?16:50
sajeeshshwicke ++116:51
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schwickeI guess once the core team looks at the code they will come up with some suggestions16:51
ericksonfgdsschwicke, sure16:51
schwicketime is almost up16:52
schwickeI think we have a plan :)16:52
schwickeGood luck to all of us!16:52
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sajeeshshwicke..I have told to the nova about the pros and cons of keeping a separate class16:52
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sajeesh*nova core16:52
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schwickeany conclusions from their side ?16:53
sajeeshnot yet16:53
schwickeso ... let's go ahead16:53
sajeeshok16:53
schwickewith what we have now16:53
sajeesh+116:53
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ericksonfgdssee you, have a nice weekend!16:54
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schwickehave a nice weekend!16:54
schwicke#endmeeting16:55
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raildohave a nice weekend :)16:55
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sajeeshok...Good Bye and  have a nice weekend :-)16:55
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schwickeand thanks a lot to everybody for the excellent work and collaboration!16:55
sajeeshthanks a lot to shwicke ..for conducting the meeting....16:56
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geoffarnoldstartmeeting mercadorproject17:00
geoffarnold#startmeeting mercadorproject17:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Jul 31 17:00:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is geoffarnold. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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raildo#... :P17:00
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geoffarnoldPing?17:00
raildo_o_17:00
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geoffarnoldI just uploaded API design notes on the three APIs17:02
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geoffarnoldCLI->Publisher, CLI->Subscriber, Subscriber->Publisher17:02
geoffarnoldLinked off the wiki page at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mercador17:03
raildook17:03
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geoffarnoldWe had interesting conversations atHP and within the team at Cisco....17:03
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geoffarnoldI decided to go for a strictly RESTful - i.e. HATEOAS - approach, with a strongly normalized data model17:04
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geoffarnoldThis is not in the data path, so API efficiency is less important than cacheability and security17:05
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geoffarnoldSo, strict separation between public/immutable resources and those that are ephemeral and/or private17:06
geoffarnoldNo materialized views17:06
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geoffarnoldI also talked with the biz and operations guys, and they emphasized the need to be able to embed the various steps of establishing a federation subscription into a more complex workflow.17:07
raildosure...17:08
geoffarnoldSo, no "do everything" API calls; instead, a stepwise sequence17:08
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raildodo you already have the API calls defined?17:09
geoffarnoldWe already do that in other parts of our OpenStack deployments.17:09
raildoI mean, more then we have in the wiki?17:09
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geoffarnoldAPI calls yes. See the PDF file. However I won't have the object model finished until later today.17:10
geoffarnoldAnd the resources are the heart of the API, of course.17:10
raildook17:11
geoffarnoldHad to do it this way, though.17:11
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geoffarnoldCan't define the resources until we have the API call flow17:11
geoffarnoldBecause normalization/caching17:11
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geoffarnoldI'd be curious in your opinions on the design principles listed at the start of the notes, though.17:12
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* raildo reading17:13
geoffarnoldWhen I was at Amazon, the APIs were hacked together as RPC-over-HTTP17:13
geoffarnoldThey weren't RESTful at all17:13
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raildobutusing RESTful will be very similiar to other projects in OpenStack, so i like the ideia17:14
geoffarnoldThere are a lot of so-called RESTful APIs that aren't very RESTful17:15
geoffarnoldA lot of OpenStack APIs rely heavily on resource ID's (i.e. UUIDs) rather than locators (URLs). There's a reason for that, but it implies a lot of shared state17:16
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geoffarnoldAnyway, raildo, let's wrap this meeting up so that I can finish the resource design. I'll upload a new draft later today.17:22
raildogeoffarnold: np :)17:22
geoffarnoldThanks. Have a good weekend.17:23
geoffarnold#endmeeting17:23
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raildoyou too!17:23
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