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| crinkle | #startmeeting puppet-openstack | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 1 14:00:33 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is crinkle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: puppet-openstack)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'puppet_openstack' | 14:00 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 14:00 |
| crinkle | o/ | 14:00 |
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| crinkle | #topic open discussion | 14:00 |
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| crinkle | anything to discuss? | 14:01 |
| sbadia | o/ | 14:03 |
| sbadia | hum maybe manage_service ? | 14:03 |
| sbadia | but none mathieu/yanis are here :( | 14:03 |
| sbadia | I've launched a mail here | 14:03 |
| sbadia | #link https://groups.google.com/a/puppetlabs.com/forum/#!topic/puppet-openstack/uogf_3djQu4 | 14:03 |
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| EmilienM | they are not here | 14:05 |
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| crinkle | The mailing list will hopefully get their attention | 14:06 |
| sbadia | yep | 14:06 |
| crinkle | anything else? | 14:07 |
| sbadia | not for me :-/ | 14:07 |
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| EmilienM | crinkle: I would need reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:bp/common-openstack-identity-resource+status:open,n,z | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | it's pretty straightforward | 14:08 |
| crinkle | okay | 14:08 |
| EmilienM | bogdando: any status on your Pacemaker code? | 14:09 |
| bogdando | EmilienM, hello. I updated the patch set for step 1 of blueprint | 14:09 |
| bogdando | nothing new to add yet | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: we should review his blueprint | 14:09 |
| crinkle | #info Reviews needed for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:bp/common-openstack-identity-resource+status:open,n, | 14:09 |
| EmilienM | bogdando: is it ready for review? | 14:10 |
| bogdando | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104861/ | 14:10 |
| bogdando | EmilienM, yes | 14:10 |
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| EmilienM | bogdando: ok. thanks for the work | 14:10 |
| bogdando | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136708/ | 14:10 |
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| bogdando | the 1st one is a blueprint, the 2nd one is an implementation for 1st step | 14:10 |
| EmilienM | yep, ok | 14:11 |
| crinkle | #info reviews needed for pacemaker blueprint and implementation | 14:11 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: are we done with Juno release for all projects? | 14:11 |
| crinkle | #info decision needed for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115659/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116604/ | 14:12 |
| crinkle | EmilienM: yes | 14:12 |
| EmilienM | crinkle: cool, thx | 14:12 |
| crinkle | #info stable/juno branches are created and released | 14:12 |
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| sbadia | yep thx crinkle ! | 14:13 |
| nibalizer | o/ | 14:13 |
| nibalizer | (sorry for late) | 14:14 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: we're in open discussion, anything to bring up? | 14:14 |
| nibalizer | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137917/ | 14:14 |
| nibalizer | was my todo from last meeting | 14:14 |
| sbadia | #info release 5.0.0 published on puppet forge (on stackforge namespace) | 14:15 |
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| nibalizer | could probably use some puppet cores to +1 and be all 'yes we want this' | 14:15 |
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| nibalizer | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/puppethack-an-online-puppet-community-hack-day-registration-13230722447 | 14:15 |
| nibalizer | thats a thing if no one has announced it before | 14:15 |
| nibalizer | tahts all i got | 14:15 |
| sbadia | nibalizer: \o/ yes we want this :) | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | nibalizer: so it's non-voting jobs, right? | 14:16 |
| crinkle | #info cores should review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137917/ to add beaker testing in infra | 14:16 |
| sbadia | EmilienM: yes | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | nice | 14:16 |
| EmilienM | nibalizer: thanks for this work, I hope we can make it this week | 14:17 |
| crinkle | nibalizer: so does the storyboard module run beaker tests now? | 14:18 |
| nibalizer | well it does run them | 14:18 |
| nibalizer | but they fail | 14:18 |
| crinkle | that's okay | 14:18 |
| nibalizer | https://review.openstack.org/126086 | 14:18 |
| nibalizer | so it comes down to the rabbitmq module is busted | 14:18 |
| nibalizer | which realistically is probably breaking our modules too | 14:19 |
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| crinkle | i'll try to work on that module this week | 14:19 |
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| nibalizer | ya ill also help | 14:20 |
| crinkle | cool | 14:20 |
| nibalizer | i think we're close, just need to repro some of the phantom bugs | 14:20 |
| nibalizer | then we can release | 14:20 |
| crinkle | any other topics? | 14:20 |
| nibalizer | nothing from me | 14:21 |
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| EmilienM | none | 14:22 |
| sbadia | nothing too | 14:22 |
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| crinkle | mmk | 14:22 |
| crinkle | #endmeeting | 14:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 1 14:22:56 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2014/puppet_openstack.2014-12-01-14.00.html | 14:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2014/puppet_openstack.2014-12-01-14.00.txt | 14:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/puppet_openstack/2014/puppet_openstack.2014-12-01-14.00.log.html | 14:23 |
| nibalizer | woot | 14:23 |
| nibalizer | thanks everyone! | 14:23 |
| sbadia | thanks everyone! | 14:23 |
| EmilienM | thanks, have a great day | 14:23 |
| sbadia | ahah too fast :p | 14:23 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 1 16:00:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:00 |
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| NikolayM | hi ! | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | NikolayM, is Jenkins now working fine? | 16:02 |
| NikolayM | yes | 16:02 |
| NikolayM | two patches is already merged | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:03 |
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| dzimine | hi all | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | I wonder why devstack gate failed for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137763/ | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | Nikolay, please take a look | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | hi dzimine | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's start | 16:04 |
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| NikolayM | rakhmerov, it is just ok | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | why? | 16:04 |
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| rakhmerov | was it before Nastya's patch merged in or after that? | 16:05 |
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| NikolayM | before | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | ok, then it should be fine | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:05 |
| NikolayM | after Nastya's patch devstack works fine | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | we had no previous action items | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: I took PTO last Friday. Almost finished fixing that race condition, today I changed the design a little bit and just want to do more testing. There's still something that I need to think about it though but I may want to postpone it for a while and switch to "join" | 16:08 |
| dzimine | nothing on my side or winson's : long break last week in the US | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm a little confused. Was it really a whole week break? | 16:09 |
| NikolayM | added advanced tests on workflow-resume, fixed resume algorithm, fixed "Application context not found" error in tests, fixed bug when we didn't see error at action class init | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | I thought thanksgiving is just one day | 16:10 |
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| dzimine | yes, but as it's Thu, everyone is taking Fri off. | 16:10 |
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| rakhmerov | NikolayM, very good ) I'm so glad we fixed that "Application context not found" error | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | it was a pain in the butgt | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, ok | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | NikolayM, I think that's why nobody answered us in ML about WSME | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Release "Kilo-1" progress | 16:12 |
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| NikolayM | I also think so :) | 16:12 |
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| NikolayM | rakhmerov, what is left for Kilo-1? | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | yep, just a sec | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, as far as "kilo-1" release we now have effectively 2 BPs that didn't start yet | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | "pause-before" and HA | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | Bryan was going to start "pause-before" this week as far as I remember | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | and it's pretty simple to do I think | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | if he has some problems we'll help him | 16:14 |
| dzimine | is "join" in Kilo-1? | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, get in touch with Bryan to see how his work's going | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | dzimine, yes | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | I'll continue to work on it tomorrow | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | by the end of this week most likely I'll get it done | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | Nastya is also about to start doing HA testing, she's now figuring out what's needed: where and how we can do it | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | I don't think this is something that could be done just till the end of this cycle | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | though | 16:17 |
| NikolayM | we have mistral 0.2 planning doc at https://docs.google.com/a/mirantis.com/document/d/1ycCOBS4gj5-3vbHjBEThTJ9gSNOOWGpX0kgdcfVw9IY/edit# | 16:17 |
| dzimine | before or after rakhmerov's fix? | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | IMO, this is an ongoing piece of work | 16:17 |
| NikolayM | don't dorget about it :) | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | we won't | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, what do you mean? | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | regarding HA testing I mean that we'll do some basic testing for now to make sure our main functionality works at scale | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | but we'll keep working on that moving on | 16:19 |
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| dzimine | I mean any load may be problematic without the fix that you have on a review. | 16:19 |
| dzimine | Anyways it'll take care of itself :) | 16:19 |
| dzimine | by exposing the bugs. | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, I hope it will be in in 1 day | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | in the worst case in 2 days | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | yes :)) | 16:20 |
| dzimine | Nastya do you have a plan on what/how to test? | 16:20 |
| dzimine | we had a weird bug when workflow locked on 2 cpu VM. I'll ask Winson to report it. | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | btw, dzimine, if you have your own requirements on what needs to be tested first (I mean your interest) please share | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | yes, you told me but it's really weird | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | would like to see some details (may be logs?) | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | I think Nastya is not here today | 16:22 |
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| dzimine | yes, I think he managed to repro it on his dev env, I have just asked him to file it. | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | we already discussed the general plan and she definitely has a high-level understanding | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | would be helpful | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | btw, dzimine, did you try Mistral in multiprocess configuration on some of your tasks? | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | it's when you have separate engines and executors (may be even api's) | 16:24 |
| dzimine | no. | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I think we're mostly on target. Productivity after summits is always not the best but I feel it's not increasing :) | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | any questions to discuss from your side? | 16:28 |
| dzimine | ok, little thing: | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | some concerns, roadblocks? | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:28 |
| dzimine | task defaults with reverse workflows, obviously don't work, right? | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | ....it's now increasing.... | 16:29 |
| dzimine | the question is how to set up a default failure policy with reverse workflow. | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | dzimine, we need to check it | 16:29 |
| dzimine | with "join" implemented it may not be pressing, but at least need t odocument. | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm not sure it doesn't work | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | I guess policies should work with task defaults in case of reverse workflows | 16:30 |
| dzimine | honestly I didn't check if it can work, was just curious | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | let us check that pls | 16:30 |
| dzimine | let's check. | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:30 |
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| dzimine | Next: I am thinking we (I?) should do a bit more in writing specs. | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | #action akuznetsova: check if task-defaults work for reverse workflows (policies) | 16:30 |
| dzimine | We do write blueprints, | 16:31 |
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| dzimine | but not in hi level of details. | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | agree | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | it's all about priorities, you know | 16:31 |
| dzimine | and than, when feature is implemented 1) not all corner cases are there, | 16:31 |
| dzimine | and 2) we dont know if we are done or not. | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:31 |
| dzimine | Example: for-each. | 16:32 |
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| dzimine | It's so good to have it in, | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | strictly speaking, "for-each" is not 100% ready | 16:32 |
| dzimine | now I have a bag of feedback on this. | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | result ordering, sequential processing are not done | 16:32 |
| NikolayM | for-each for now has a set of limitations | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, can you pls share that feedback in some form? BPs, specs? | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, please create new BPs for what's left on "for-each" | 16:33 |
| dzimine | well that's my point, "when"? is it ready? what is left? where do we track this? all this project management routines that keep it safe | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | #action: NikolayM, create new BPs for what's left on "for-each" | 16:34 |
| NikolayM | ok | 16:34 |
| dzimine | So the smallest step I think is to put more details into the blueprint, that describes in more details on what needs to be done, how it is expected to work, etc. | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-dataflow-collections | 16:35 |
| dzimine | rakhmerov and I have discussed pretty deep corner cases of for-each, I can help capture them in a blueprint. | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | let's just have a discussion in the BP itself (I know it's not very convenient but there isn't a better way now I think) | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:36 |
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| dzimine | And a new one that we thought of and people just asked to do is to introduce a "parallel" count to "throttle" the execution. parallel=1 makes it sequential. | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | I am ok with creating new BPs if you find it convenient | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | you still mean "for-each" thing? | 16:37 |
| dzimine | yes | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, you're saying it's not just a binary choice "parallel" or "sequential" | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | I see | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, it's going to be even much more interesting than we thought ) | 16:38 |
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| rakhmerov | I think it's a nice feature | 16:38 |
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| dzimine | I'll type it up in the etherpad referenced from the blueprint. | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | because if we, for example, have an array of a thousand elements and need to create a thousand parallel iterations then it may be an overage for just one task | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | this is very good | 16:40 |
| dzimine | But back to a general comment, let's do a write-up on what we implment, and if there are any cut corners call them out after implementation. | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:40 |
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| dzimine | the use case for parallel throttling is also concern on the target system. In our example it's VMWare vCenter and the user wants to keep it at no more than 5 new VM requests at a time. | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, I'm actually thrilled to get "join" and "for-each" asap | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, you told me | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | but when we were talking about it I was thinking about a system-wide throttling rather than a "for-each" parameter | 16:43 |
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| rakhmerov | it should be both eventually though | 16:43 |
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| rakhmerov | #action dzimine, put information about additional features/requirements for "for-each" in the etherpad | 16:44 |
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| dzimine | ^^ done. | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | one question that I have | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | do we need to support Keystone API v2 in Mistral? | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | any input on that? | 16:45 |
| dzimine | Nikolay, how do you track what's not done in for-each? E.g., ordering of results, handling multiple arrays, etc? | 16:45 |
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| dzimine | Keystone v2 - anyone asked for it? | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | yes, that's the point | 16:45 |
| dzimine | what's the context& | 16:45 |
| dzimine | ? | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | 2-3 people last week asked about it | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | the point is: they have Icehouse OpenStack where they don't have Keystone API v3 enabled because they think it's still experimental | 16:46 |
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| rakhmerov | my understanding | 16:47 |
| NikolayM | dzimine, it is in my notepad | 16:47 |
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| rakhmerov | unfortunately, I don't have a comprehensive info on that topic at the moment | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | so they said: can we have Mistral work with v2 or create some workaround for that? | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | the problem is that we use trusts | 16:48 |
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| rakhmerov | which actually don't work well too for us | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | but at least the concept of trusts seems to be helpful for us | 16:49 |
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| rakhmerov | so, I'm not expecting us to answer that right now but we need to figure that out within days | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | already create a BP (in discussion status) | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | created | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | you can leave your thoughts in it: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-keystone-api-v2-support | 16:50 |
| dzimine | what will it take to support v2? did someone looked at it? NikolayM you know keystone pretty well? | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | the whole problem is in auth token expiration | 16:51 |
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| rakhmerov | for example, when a trigger runs a workflow we don't have user credentials | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | there are only two ways: authenticate using Mistral's system credentials (from config) or use a previously trust (basically impersonated credentials) | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | the first way is ugly because it may be a security breach | 16:53 |
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| rakhmerov | honestly, I don't see a good solution at this point | 16:54 |
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| rakhmerov | technically, if we come up with a solution it should be easy to implement | 16:55 |
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| rakhmerov | Dmitri, maybe you could discuss this thing with your guys | 16:55 |
| dzimine | we don't use much of keystone. | 16:56 |
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| rakhmerov | yeah, but some of you may have seen a similar problem before | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:56 |
| dzimine | and the problem with credentials is not limited to keystone. Talk to Fuel guys, they'll need sets of credentials to all sorts of targets | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | I know | 16:56 |
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| rakhmerov | yes | 16:56 |
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| rakhmerov | I heard that keystone folks were planning to drop trusts completely, btw, and introduce a different thing | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | but didn't see any detailed description so far | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's finish for today | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | about a minute and a half left | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | thanks for coming | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | Dmitri, let's be in touch with you. We need your input | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 1 16:59:29 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-12-01-16.00.html | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-12-01-16.00.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-12-01-16.00.log.html | 16:59 |
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| rluethi | hello-oh? anyone? | 17:01 |
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| dbite | can any one hear roger? | 17:01 |
| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 1 17:01:41 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| sarob | Hello | 17:01 |
| rluethi | hi | 17:01 |
| MeganR | Hello | 17:02 |
| dbite | hi | 17:02 |
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| sarob | #bp for kilo | 17:02 |
| sarob | Duh | 17:02 |
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| sarob | #topic bp for kilo | 17:03 |
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| dbite | I thought we were decided on specs ;) | 17:03 |
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| rluethi | my spec/bp is up. I don't see it happening for Kilo. | 17:03 |
| dbite | I have a bunch of specs coming up | 17:04 |
| sarob | Cool | 17:04 |
| sarob | Whatca think of the overall plan I put out there | 17:04 |
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| rluethi | sarob: hey, what's with the agenda? | 17:05 |
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| sarob | I forgot to update it | 17:05 |
| * sarob blush | 17:05 | |
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| rluethi | sarob: re: overall plan, I commented on the parts that I know about (on the ML). | 17:06 |
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| sarob | Rluethi right | 17:06 |
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| sarob | Rluethi haven't had a chance to respond yet | 17:07 |
| dbite | sarob: I am still not sure if architects in cloud computing code for TDD based model | 17:07 |
| dbite | but the overall plan seems good | 17:07 |
| sarob | Dbite okay cool | 17:07 |
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| dbite | or am I right about the architects? | 17:08 |
| matjazp | hi guys | 17:08 |
| dbite | *right or wrong | 17:08 |
| dbite | matjazp: hellp | 17:08 |
| dbite | *hello | 17:08 |
| sarob | I want to communicate the kilo plan | 17:08 |
| matjazp | dbite: you're feeling better? | 17:08 |
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| sarob | So I'm good with being wrong | 17:08 |
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| dbite | matjazp: nope, but could not get sleep | 17:08 |
| sarob | As long as someone else corrects me | 17:09 |
| sarob | And can put out there what we should be doing | 17:09 |
| sarob | Matjazp hey | 17:09 |
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| dbite | sarob: I was thinking in lines of openstack architect book | 17:10 |
| dbite | as point of reference | 17:11 |
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| sarob | Dbite right | 17:11 |
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| sarob | So rluethi has a spec | 17:12 |
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| rluethi | as noted during last week's meeting. | 17:13 |
| sarob | Dbite on arch guide I'm good with you coming up with one | 17:13 |
| sarob | Diff than what I put out | 17:14 |
| dbite | sarob: I am more preoccupied with koans and labs section also the release is a bit time consuming | 17:14 |
| sarob | Okay, then we should have a few spec to describe that work with this cycle | 17:15 |
| sarob | Rluethi I repeated your spec in the ml so the plan would make sense | 17:15 |
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| rluethi | sarob: most lab work does not need a spec. it's only updating to keep up with Juno/Kilo. | 17:16 |
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| sarob | Well maybe we should start writing specs or bugs for work tbd | 17:16 |
| sarob | I'd like to be able to show to your mgr or mine | 17:17 |
| sarob | What our work plan is for the next six months | 17:17 |
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| sarob | Even better what new people could work with you on | 17:18 |
| matjazp | sarob: hmm.. for managers it would be better to put an executive summary on the wiki | 17:18 |
| rluethi | sarob: I think things will get clearer as we get feedback from the pilot. | 17:18 |
| sarob | Pilot? | 17:18 |
| sarob | Rluethi meaning training in sfbay user group? | 17:19 |
| rluethi | sarob: the thing in the user group. | 17:19 |
| sarob | Rluethi true | 17:19 |
| rluethi | sarob: we are eagerly awaiting your first set of slides. | 17:19 |
| rluethi | sarob: also, feedback on training cluster. | 17:19 |
| sarob | Yup | 17:20 |
| sarob | This thurs is coming up fast | 17:20 |
| dbite | sarob: we need to clean up the XML content before | 17:20 |
| matjazp | I'll have a feedback of the training cluster by the end of this week | 17:20 |
| sarob | Matjazp cool | 17:21 |
| rluethi | matjazp: excellent. | 17:21 |
| matjazp | rluethi: I hope everyting works ;) | 17:21 |
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| rluethi | matjazp, sarob: if you downloaded the zip file before the last fix, make sure to get the new version. | 17:21 |
| sarob | Rluethi roger that | 17:21 |
| sarob | Roger roger | 17:21 |
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| rluethi | if you built the Windows batch scripts locally, they're fine. but the one built on the build host were broken. | 17:22 |
| matjazp | rluethi: np, I'll just delete all generated files and/or clone again from the start | 17:22 |
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| sarob | So I'm going to push these specs today to join rluethi spec | 17:23 |
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| sarob | Like dbite is saying they are not perfect | 17:23 |
| sarob | But a good start to what needs to get done | 17:24 |
| sarob | I'd like to whittle them down to what we can get done over this cycle | 17:24 |
| sarob | Over this week | 17:24 |
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| sarob | So next meet we can discuss the bp and milestone assignment | 17:25 |
| sarob | I'd like see on gerrit new specs and discussion as much as possible | 17:26 |
| sarob | I like being told I'm wrong | 17:26 |
| sarob | As long as you have an alternate solution | 17:26 |
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| sarob | I am interested in getting more people involved | 17:27 |
| sarob | Having a plan will help a lot | 17:27 |
| sarob | On launchpad | 17:27 |
| sarob | Wiki is good too, but launchpad is our source of truth | 17:28 |
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| sarob | Sound good ? | 17:28 |
| matjazp | ok | 17:28 |
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| rluethi | I'll wait and see. | 17:29 |
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| sarob | Anyone else? | 17:30 |
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| sarob | Dbite sayali shilla? | 17:30 |
| sarob | Reed or loic are you lurking? | 17:31 |
| dbite | yes | 17:31 |
| dbite | sounds good | 17:31 |
| MeganR | I am good with having a plan, and liked the one on the ML | 17:31 |
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| sarob | Meganr dbite Thx | 17:31 |
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| sarob | Let's move on then | 17:31 |
| sarob | #topic dbite big patch | 17:32 |
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| dbite | sarob: Its cleaned and its out | 17:32 |
| dbite | I will be writing a spec in manuals and get training-guides-install-guides shipped for the newer slides | 17:33 |
| dbite | just wanted to report | 17:33 |
| sarob | Cool | 17:33 |
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| sarob | #topic any other business | 17:34 |
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| dbite | Specs for Labs Section as per https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-kilo-summit - Roger (rluethi), Pranav (dguitarbite), Sayali (sayali) Icehouse release for Training guides - Roger(rluethi), Pranav (dguitatarbite) Delete/Remove XML content - Pranav (dguitarbite) Pilot: experience/feedback/slides | 17:35 |
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| rluethi | aka "today's agenda" | 17:35 |
| ShillaSaebi | hi all, sorry im late | 17:35 |
| dbite | well we discussed some parts of it already | 17:36 |
| sarob | Shillasaebi np | 17:36 |
| dbite | but we need to work on the important points there | 17:36 |
| dbite | like the release for Icehouse | 17:36 |
| matjazp | dbite: yes, official release (branch stable/icehouse) of the labs would be great | 17:37 |
| sarob | Branching first | 17:37 |
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| sarob | ? | 17:37 |
| dbite | sarob: branching is part of the release | 17:37 |
| rluethi | sayali, dbite and I worked over the weekend to get the scripts ready for branching. they are done. | 17:38 |
| dbite | we also address your user group training by keeping the XML content in the icehouse branch | 17:38 |
| sarob | Well it is the release | 17:38 |
| dbite | while we can delete and clean up the XML to make way for the slides | 17:38 |
| dbite | are there any blockers from anyone? any concerns or issues that we might have overlooked | 17:38 |
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| sarob | None from me | 17:38 |
| matjazp | go for it | 17:39 |
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| dbite | kool sounds good :) | 17:39 |
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| dbite | and sarob we where working on a list of potential specs which is at the end of the etherpad here | 17:39 |
| dbite | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/training-guides-kilo-summit | 17:39 |
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| sarob | I see them down there now | 17:40 |
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| sarob | Has that been there since the summit? | 17:40 |
| sarob | Totally didn't see it | 17:40 |
| dbite | sarob: I think that was filtered as per our discussions from the summit | 17:40 |
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| sarob | Okay | 17:40 |
| rluethi | note that those are proposed BPs. they are _not_ what is going to get done for Kilo. | 17:41 |
| sarob | Rluethi understood | 17:42 |
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| dbite | sarob: the major focus will be on the slides as they are most important for this release | 17:42 |
| sarob | Agreed | 17:42 |
| dbite | and I will maintain the installation sections and roger with labs | 17:42 |
| sarob | Let's get the bp published asap | 17:42 |
| dbite | so that we have something usable in a few monhts | 17:42 |
| dbite | sarob: yep, kool! | 17:42 |
| sarob | Specs next | 17:42 |
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| sarob | We can figure out how much work we can get done | 17:43 |
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| sarob | At our next meet | 17:43 |
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| dbite | we might have the Icehouse release out till then if everything goes as planned | 17:43 |
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| sarob | After the bp and spec have gotten some feedback | 17:44 |
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| sarob | I think getting on a release schedule can be a spec bp as well | 17:45 |
| rluethi | sarob: hey, are we looking for excuses to write up spec bps? | 17:45 |
| rluethi | I know I'm not. | 17:46 |
| sarob | Rluethi not really, but we should describe work plans in launchpad | 17:46 |
| sarob | Rluethi getting on a release schedule is non trivial work | 17:47 |
| sarob | If I had an intern for three weeks | 17:47 |
| sarob | What would I have them work on? | 17:47 |
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| rluethi | last time I checked the docs team had 1 or 2 specs. | 17:47 |
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| rluethi | we don't need specs for obvious stuff. | 17:48 |
| dbite | I agree with roger, its more like a milestone and a branch | 17:48 |
| sarob | We need bugs or specs to describe non trivial work | 17:48 |
| rluethi | agreed. | 17:48 |
| sarob | If branching is trivial already then cool | 17:49 |
| dbite | sarob: I am not able to see how we track the spec in other projects which are used for release management | 17:49 |
| dbite | I can count atleast 2-3 of them | 17:49 |
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| dbite | and also if other projects follow that method | 17:49 |
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| sarob | Dbite not sure I understand? | 17:50 |
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| dbite | the release is done more from the other infra repositories | 17:50 |
| dbite | and done by the infra guys as far as I remember | 17:50 |
| sarob | Ah okay | 17:50 |
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| sarob | I think we branch when we are ready | 17:51 |
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| sarob | But coordinate in the future with docs and the rest | 17:51 |
| dbite | sarob: I dont think its that organic at this point of time in OpenStack | 17:51 |
| sarob | Dbite ? | 17:52 |
| sarob | Organic is a fancy word | 17:52 |
| dbite | I am not sure if we are even allowed to create a branch like that | 17:52 |
| sarob | Dbite ah | 17:52 |
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| dbite | I am sleepy :D | 17:52 |
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| dbite | sarob: andreas was very helpful and explain how to release | 17:53 |
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| sarob | Dbite I'd like to coordinate with docs | 17:53 |
| dbite | its not that simple, we need to ask the infra guys for that | 17:53 |
| dbite | sarob: yes | 17:53 |
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| sarob | Dbite I'm used to doing it manually so | 17:54 |
| rluethi | sarob: coordinate what, exactly? we are behind more than one release. | 17:54 |
| dbite | ahh, may be I got something wrong then | 17:54 |
| dbite | rluethi: are we not just rolling release? | 17:54 |
| sarob | Dbite let's ask andreas how he and the rest of the docs team | 17:54 |
| sarob | Wants to proceed | 17:55 |
| ShillaSaebi | yeah lets get some input from them | 17:55 |
| rluethi | I think that's pretty much what dbite already did. | 17:55 |
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| matjazp | Docs team has it documented... maybe we should just adopt this.. #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/Release | 17:55 |
| rluethi | matjazp: +1 | 17:56 |
| ShillaSaebi | yeah that makes sense | 17:56 |
| dbite | matjazp: +1 | 17:56 |
| matjazp | do we need a vote? | 17:57 |
| dbite | matjazp: I am not sure we have that liberty to decide how to release | 17:57 |
| rluethi | matjazp: vote on what? | 17:57 |
| sarob | So we want to branch just a subdirectory? | 17:57 |
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| matjazp | why not? we have a separate repo | 17:57 |
| sarob | I think the whole repo needs to be ready | 17:57 |
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| sarob | We are out of time | 17:58 |
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| rluethi | well done. | 17:58 |
| rluethi | see you guys next week. or on the ML, or the docs channel. | 17:59 |
| sarob | Let's continue on docs channel | 17:59 |
| matjazp | bye all | 17:59 |
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| sarob | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
| MeganR | Bye | 17:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 1 17:59:38 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-12-01-17.01.html | 17:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-12-01-17.01.txt | 17:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-12-01-17.01.log.html | 17:59 |
| dbite | bye | 17:59 |
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| sarob | Shilla join us? | 18:00 |
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| krtaylor | #startmeeting third-party | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 1 18:01:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 18:01 |
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| krtaylor | anyone here for third-party? | 18:01 |
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| sweston | o/ | 18:01 |
| luqas | o/ | 18:01 |
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| krtaylor | hi everyone | 18:02 |
| adalbas | o/ | 18:02 |
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| dougwig | note quite awake, but here | 18:02 |
| dougwig | /note/not/ | 18:02 |
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| krtaylor | I hope everyone had a nice break, or at least a break from those that did have a break | 18:03 |
| krtaylor | ok, let's get started | 18:03 |
| krtaylor | #topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission | 18:03 |
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| krtaylor | #info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable. | 18:03 |
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| krtaylor | today's agenda: | 18:03 |
| krtaylor | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#12.2F1.2F14 | 18:04 |
| krtaylor | and yes, I was late updating it | 18:04 |
| krtaylor | #topic Review of previous week's open action items | 18:04 |
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| krtaylor | the only action from last week was mine, and I did not get that done | 18:05 |
| krtaylor | it was to kick off the third-party documentation wg | 18:05 |
| krtaylor | but, I wanted to be a part, and was about to leave for US holiday, so I punted | 18:05 |
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| krtaylor | but I will get that going asap | 18:06 |
| sweston | yay :-) | 18:06 |
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| krtaylor | hehheh | 18:06 |
| krtaylor | so next | 18:06 |
| krtaylor | #action krtaylor to finish initial CI doc work group formation | 18:07 |
| krtaylor | 18:14:14 <krtaylor> altright then, sweston had the second | 18:07 |
| krtaylor | oops too many line pasted | 18:07 |
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| krtaylor | #topic Announcements | 18:07 |
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| krtaylor | any announcements? | 18:07 |
| krtaylor | I guess I'll mention that infra manual sprint is happening now | 18:08 |
| krtaylor | jump on that if interested, email announce went out | 18:09 |
| krtaylor | although I cant find it atm | 18:09 |
| krtaylor | any others? | 18:09 |
| krtaylor | #topic OpenStack Program items | 18:10 |
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| sweston | ready? | 18:11 |
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| krtaylor | third-party CI documentation is a carry-over | 18:11 |
| krtaylor | yeah, so you are up sweston | 18:11 |
| sweston | I will respond to the comments already posted in the review today, still waiting for input from the other reviewers. When would you like the spec to be finalized? | 18:11 |
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| krtaylor | sweston, I think we had hoped for this month, before everyone disappears for more holiday festivities | 18:12 |
| krtaylor | by the end of next week at the lates | 18:12 |
| krtaylor | latest | 18:12 |
| krtaylor | I dont think that is moving too quickly | 18:13 |
| sweston | ok | 18:13 |
| krtaylor | especially now since folks are back from holiday/vacation | 18:13 |
| krtaylor | I have been playing around with the poc, it is nice | 18:13 |
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| krtaylor | search works good, etc | 18:14 |
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| krtaylor | and I need to re-read the spec and comment, hopefully jhesketh will too | 18:14 |
| sweston | good :-) glad you like it. I am looking for input on how to put together some status areas for the top of the dashboard. | 18:15 |
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| krtaylor | yes, that would be good | 18:15 |
| krtaylor | a small section with all the CI systems represented somehow and a color-coded status | 18:15 |
| sweston | Ok. What are some good metrics to report on the status? | 18:16 |
| krtaylor | maybe just a small font and 3 or 4 columns | 18:16 |
| krtaylor | good question | 18:16 |
| krtaylor | thats where we need to agree on the formula on what is a healthy system | 18:16 |
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| krtaylor | and how often it can be queried for a test re-queue, or some other demand status | 18:17 |
| sweston | so are you thinking a table format, with some colors for systems in different states, maybe | 18:17 |
| krtaylor | sweston, sure, that would work, I'm not too picky | 18:17 |
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| sweston | krtaylor: ok, I will come up with something nice for that | 18:18 |
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| sweston | next task is hooking into the gerrit event stream. I suspect that part will probably take the rest of the week, given the time I have set aside for this | 18:19 |
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| krtaylor | actually, maybe the top page is the status and the details you list there are linked to the name in the status table, just an idea | 18:19 |
| krtaylor | sweston, your work on it is very much appreciated | 18:20 |
| sweston | ok, that will work. | 18:20 |
| krtaylor | for reference, here is the link for that page we are discussing: | 18:21 |
| krtaylor | #link http://dashboard.triniplex.com/# | 18:21 |
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| sweston | krtaylor, thank you. that's all I have for this week. | 18:21 |
| krtaylor | any other comments or suggestions on the dashboard spec or design? | 18:21 |
| sweston | yes, if any one else has comments or input on the ui, please feel free to send me an email or ping me on irc | 18:22 |
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| krtaylor | thanks sweston | 18:22 |
| sweston | krtaylor: np | 18:22 |
| krtaylor | ok, next is self service accounts | 18:22 |
| krtaylor | I posted the link to the doc changes, please review | 18:22 |
| krtaylor | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137240 | 18:23 |
| krtaylor | there is some nice re-write on the old wording there too | 18:23 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, are you around to comment on self-service accounts? | 18:24 |
| krtaylor | busy on infra manual sprint I am sure | 18:24 |
| anteaya | yes | 18:25 |
| anteaya | creating accounts will soon be self service | 18:25 |
| krtaylor | anyway, everyone should follow this work | 18:25 |
| krtaylor | hi anteaya | 18:25 |
| anteaya | once that happens we will post an email to the mailing list instructing people about what to do now | 18:26 |
| anteaya | to the -dev mailing list | 18:26 |
| krtaylor | excellent | 18:27 |
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| krtaylor | so, everyone can help this along by staying active in the review for these patches | 18:28 |
| anteaya | thank you | 18:28 |
| krtaylor | if you have suggestions for how to improve the process, now is the time | 18:28 |
| krtaylor | thanks anteaya | 18:28 |
| anteaya | oh ping me when you are at open discussion please | 18:28 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, will do | 18:28 |
| anteaya | sorry not following the meeting | 18:28 |
| anteaya | thanks | 18:29 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, np | 18:29 |
| krtaylor | onward then | 18:29 |
| krtaylor | #topic Deadlines & Deprecations | 18:29 |
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| krtaylor | I don't know of any yet | 18:30 |
| krtaylor | anything coming out of cinder? or neutron? | 18:30 |
| krtaylor | I'll take an action to get with their cores and see if they would like to bring anything up to this group in the next few weeks | 18:31 |
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| krtaylor | #action krtaylor to ping cinder, neutron, nova for any CI testing deadlines | 18:32 |
| krtaylor | anything else? | 18:32 |
| krtaylor | next | 18:32 |
| krtaylor | #topic Highlighting a Program or Gerrit Account | 18:33 |
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| krtaylor | so I have here a reminder for anyone that wants to jump in on the patches for splitting out puppet modules | 18:33 |
| sweston | I have proposed a change to the system-config repo with the split script I created for the module split. reviews are welcome. | 18:34 |
| krtaylor | I know sweston, mmedvede and asselin were working on some automation - any status | 18:34 |
| sweston | ^ | 18:34 |
| krtaylor | sweston, thanks | 18:34 |
| sweston | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137991/ | 18:34 |
| krtaylor | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/137991/ | 18:35 |
| krtaylor | so it will show up on links summary :) | 18:35 |
| sweston | the script is running live against my github account now. the initial filter for the branches takes about 10 minutes. | 18:35 |
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| krtaylor | ok, good to know | 18:36 |
| sweston | the resync process takes less than a minute for each module with updates | 18:36 |
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| krtaylor | and only if there are updates, right? | 18:36 |
| sweston | correct. | 18:36 |
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| sweston | no longer using the branch split, it was taking too long | 18:37 |
| krtaylor | great | 18:37 |
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| sweston | I think that is all the info for this week, asselin is still on vacation today, I believe | 18:37 |
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| sweston | regarding the module split, that is | 18:38 |
| krtaylor | ah, ok | 18:38 |
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| krtaylor | well there are plenty of tasks left | 18:38 |
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| krtaylor | mmedvede, anything to add? | 18:39 |
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| krtaylor | we dont have a third-party system to discuss this week | 18:40 |
| krtaylor | so any systems that need help? currently down? reporting incorrectly? | 18:40 |
| krtaylor | #topic CI system issues | 18:41 |
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| krtaylor | this is the part of the meeting where we will point out systems that we may have seen that are not working properly, or review systems that have previously had issues | 18:42 |
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| krtaylor | this will become more important later, as we become a more self-regulating wg | 18:42 |
| krtaylor | ok then, open discussion time | 18:43 |
| krtaylor | #topic Open Discussion | 18:43 |
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| sweston | ping anteaya open discussion time | 18:43 |
| krtaylor | thanks sweston | 18:43 |
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| sweston | yup | 18:44 |
| krtaylor | any systems that need help working through a problem they are seeing? | 18:44 |
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| krtaylor | hm, maybe anteaya got busy on infra manual | 18:46 |
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| krtaylor | ok, well if no one has any questions, then we can wrap this up | 18:47 |
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| krtaylor | last chance, anyone? | 18:47 |
| anteaya | okay where are we on the email to have an additional meeting time | 18:48 |
| anteaya | because I need that to happen | 18:48 |
| anteaya | do we have an etherpad with some text yet | 18:48 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, me too, I am driving that, need to finish now back to work | 18:48 |
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| krtaylor | anteaya, I was going to do that via email | 18:48 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: okay so I need to have a link to an etherpad with a draft | 18:48 |
| krtaylor | not sure it needs an etherpad, do you? | 18:48 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: lets have an etherpad please | 18:48 |
| anteaya | yes | 18:49 |
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| anteaya | put some text in an etherpad | 18:49 |
| anteaya | link me | 18:49 |
| * krtaylor shrugs | 18:49 | |
| anteaya | we agree on content | 18:49 |
| krtaylor | ok will do | 18:49 |
| anteaya | we send it today | 18:49 |
| krtaylor | content meaning a meeting time right? | 18:49 |
| krtaylor | anteaya, ^^ | 18:50 |
| anteaya | content meaning the draft of the email asking for input on an additional meeting time | 18:50 |
| krtaylor | oh, ok, sure | 18:50 |
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| anteaya | if I don't see an etherpad link in 70 minutes, I'll do it myself and link you | 18:50 |
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| anteaya | anyone else want to be linked? | 18:50 |
| sweston | include me please | 18:50 |
| krtaylor | I can't imagine it would take me that long | 18:51 |
| luqas | me too | 18:51 |
| anteaya | sweston: very good | 18:51 |
| anteaya | luqas: great | 18:51 |
| krtaylor | will do | 18:51 |
| sweston | anteaya: thank you | 18:51 |
| anteaya | krtaylor: okay thank you | 18:51 |
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| krtaylor | thanks anteaya | 18:51 |
| krtaylor | alright, anyone else? | 18:51 |
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| krtaylor | ok, well thanks everyone for another good meeting, I'll get on these actions | 18:52 |
| krtaylor | see everyone next week then | 18:53 |
| sweston | Good meeting, krtaylor | 18:53 |
| sweston | krtaylor: thanks | 18:53 |
| krtaylor | sure, np | 18:53 |
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| krtaylor | #endmeeting | 18:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 1 18:53:35 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-12-01-18.01.html | 18:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-12-01-18.01.txt | 18:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-12-01-18.01.log.html | 18:53 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 1 20:01:30 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 20:01 |
| sdake | howdy folks | 20:01 |
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| rhallisey | hey | 20:01 |
| daneyon | hi! | 20:01 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 20:01 |
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| sdake | \o/ yay:) | 20:01 |
| rhallisey | hi | 20:01 |
| daneyon | hey | 20:02 |
| jpeeler | here | 20:02 |
| sdake | #topic milestone #2 | 20:02 |
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| sdake | IIRC we set the 9th for a release date for milestone #2 | 20:02 |
| sdake | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla | 20:03 |
| sdake | rhallisey does horizon still need code review? | 20:03 |
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| rhallisey | sdake, it has been merged | 20:03 |
| sdake | cluster-vip daneyon? | 20:04 |
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| sdake | ddin't we decide to move tha to m3? | 20:04 |
| sdake | oh nm ;-) | 20:04 |
| sdake | kube-swift-container | 20:04 |
| sdake | not sure if chmouel is around | 20:04 |
| sdake | probably best to move that to milestone #3 | 20:04 |
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| daneyon | I have not started cluster-vip yet. That is for ML3 correct? | 20:05 |
| sdake | ya I misread it as 2, but it is indeed 3 | 20:05 |
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| sdake | that leaves sahara | 20:05 |
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| sdake | I have bad news about that - I had it working and lost my repo | 20:05 |
| sdake | but its really easy to knock out again | 20:06 |
| sdake | in fact I lost all my repos :( | 20:06 |
| daneyon | We still need #link https://github.com/larsks/heat-kubernetes/pull/8 merged to support functional nova/neutron networking. | 20:06 |
| rhallisey | :( | 20:06 |
| rhallisey | sdake, do you have a testing environment I could borrow? | 20:06 |
| sdake | daneyon I'll shoot an emial to larsks | 20:06 |
| * rhallisey still has no hardware | 20:07 | |
| sdake | rhallisey I indeed do I'll set you up after the meeting, but atm I need it for sahara | 20:07 |
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| rhallisey | ok thanks | 20:07 |
| sdake | I got a peice of hardware for you, didn't I share the info? | 20:07 |
| sdake | lets connect after the meeting | 20:07 |
| rhallisey | sdake, ok | 20:07 |
| sdake | daneyon is all of the neutron work merged then? | 20:07 |
| daneyon | As a follow-on from last week's discussion, it sounds like flannel is recommended by the k8s team. I provided the feedback to larsks and the relevant PR conversation to provide add'l background. | 20:08 |
| sdake | I think we need https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133965/ | 20:08 |
| daneyon | sdake: yes | 20:08 |
| sdake | daneyon can yo urebase today? | 20:08 |
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| sdake | I'll sort out sahara today | 20:09 |
| sdake | and release milestone #2 when all the reviews land | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | cool | 20:09 |
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| daneyon | I'll rebase the nova-networking change | 20:09 |
| sdake | cool thanks daneyon | 20:09 |
| daneyon | otherwise, neutron has been merged | 20:09 |
| sdake | sweet ! | 20:09 |
| sdake | that is really our huge feature this release | 20:09 |
| sdake | #topic release notes | 20:09 |
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| sdake | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-2-ann | 20:10 |
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| daneyon | sdake: we just need to make sure #link https://github.com/larsks/heat-kubernetes/pull/8 is merged. Otherwise none of the networking stuff will work. | 20:10 |
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| sdake | couldn't peopel manually merge that? | 20:11 |
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| sdake | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/milestone-2 | 20:12 |
| sdake | features | 20:12 |
| daneyon | sdake: the other option is to point people to my repo with the merged changes #link https://github.com/danehans/heat-kubernetes/tree/multi_int | 20:12 |
| sdake | lets do that | 20:13 |
| sdake | we can fork if necessary for a short time | 20:13 |
| sdake | can you alter the text in the etherpad | 20:13 |
| daneyon | sure | 20:13 |
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| sdake | sorry for the long delay | 20:18 |
| sdake | looking pretty good now? | 20:18 |
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| daneyon | so far, so good. | 20:18 |
| sdake | cool | 20:18 |
| sdake | #topic open discussion | 20:18 |
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| sdake | I'd like to st art out with future plans around holidays | 20:18 |
| sdake | I pretty much expect everyone will be shutdwon from about now until Jan 5th or so ;-) | 20:18 |
| sdake | If I could, I'd take it as pto, but Ican't :( | 20:19 |
| daneyon | just so i understand, the m2 release is 12/9? | 20:19 |
| sdake | so I suggest we hold off on a milestone #3 release | 20:19 |
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| sdake | daneyon I think that is what we said wasn't it? | 20:19 |
| sdake | or did we say the 2nd? | 20:19 |
| sdake | pretty sure it wa the 9th | 20:19 |
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| sdake | lets just set it as the 9th | 20:20 |
| daneyon | I'm fine with the 9th. I wouldn't actually mind being able to test the neutron stuff a little more. | 20:20 |
| rhallisey | sdake, I'd rather do the 9th just so we have time to tighten up everything | 20:20 |
| sdake | sounds good | 20:20 |
| sdake | there is no rush, 16th is almost too late tho | 20:20 |
| sdake | so 9th is a good date | 20:20 |
| rhallisey | agreed | 20:20 |
| sdake | but as for milestone #3, I think we should look at setting that when we have our Jan 5th meeting | 20:21 |
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| sdake | we should likely cancel the meetings for the 15th, 22nd, and 29th unless folks are opposed | 20:21 |
| daneyon | +1 to 1/5 release planning and meeting cancelations | 20:21 |
| sdake | rhallisey jpeeler wfu? | 20:22 |
| daneyon | sdake: do you want to update the meeting wiki so all others are aware of the shutdown? | 20:22 |
| jpeeler | sdake: yep | 20:22 |
| jpeeler | +1 | 20:22 |
| rhallisey | sdake, where is the link to m3 | 20:22 |
| sdake | daneyon I will do that after the meeting thanks for the suggestion | 20:22 |
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| daneyon | sdake: thx | 20:22 |
| sdake | rhallisey https://launchpad.net/kolla/mliestone-3 | 20:23 |
| rhallisey | sdake, I'd like to be able to have the m3 blueprints around just in case I can make some progress | 20:23 |
| sdake | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla | 20:23 |
| sdake | ya feel free to work on st uff during the holidays ;) | 20:23 |
| rhallisey | ah there they are | 20:23 |
| sdake | I am sure I will be working on something | 20:23 |
| rhallisey | works for me then | 20:24 |
| jpeeler | sdake: i recently found this project: https://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/dox . i believe it's exactly what i was thinking as far as how we should be testing our work | 20:24 |
| sdake | interesting | 20:24 |
| sdake | we definately need to tackle testing | 20:24 |
| sdake | we don't have any atm | 20:24 |
| sdake | which is not ideal | 20:24 |
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| rhallisey | chmouel, is working on swift container maybe he can also help on that front | 20:25 |
| sdake | oh i wanted to bring something else up | 20:25 |
| sdake | some folks want to use a PID-less namespaced docker to provide upgrades of nova/libvirt without destroying kvms on the hardware | 20:25 |
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| sdake | in other words, the container is a packaging tool for upgrades for nova-compute | 20:26 |
| sdake | imain (community guy) is working on this, so I would expect he may start attending these meetings | 20:26 |
| sdake | just a fyi - seems inline with our charter | 20:27 |
| sdake | any objections? | 20:27 |
| sdake | cool | 20:27 |
| sdake | ok well I don't have anything else | 20:27 |
| daneyon | no objections | 20:27 |
| sdake | I'll leave channel open for a few minutes if anyone else has htings they want to chat about ;) | 20:27 |
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| daneyon | In case you did not see this #link https://coreos.com/blog/rocket/ | 20:28 |
| daneyon | CoreOS is building a container runtime | 20:29 |
| sdake | I think the ybuilt it actually:) | 20:29 |
| daneyon | I don't envision us supporting OS in Rocket containers any time soon, but I think it's worth keeping an eye on for kolla and magnum | 20:30 |
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| rhallisey | cool | 20:30 |
| sdake | yup agree | 20:30 |
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| sdake | got pushback on supporting centos for a container, so if we can't handle that, don't think we can handle an entire new container packaging format ;-) | 20:30 |
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| jpeeler | yeah not currently, but it is certainly interesting | 20:31 |
| daneyon | sdake: right on. Just mkaing the group aware of it. If it gains momentum, maybe it's something we consider longer-term. | 20:31 |
| sdake | yup wfm | 20:31 |
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| sdake | ok well I guess we can wrap up | 20:32 |
| sdake | thanks folks | 20:32 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 20:32 |
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| rhallisey | thx | 20:32 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 1 20:32:57 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2014/kolla.2014-12-01-20.01.html | 20:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2014/kolla.2014-12-01-20.01.txt | 20:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2014/kolla.2014-12-01-20.01.log.html | 20:33 |
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