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sbalukoffMorning, folks!13:59
johnsomHello13:59
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dougwig#startmeeting neutron lbaas14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 25 14:00:05 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas'14:00
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dougwig#topic Announcements14:00
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dougwigkilo design summit reminder:14:00
dougwig#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics14:00
dougwigany other announcements?14:00
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dougwigmoving on14:01
dougwig#topic Incubator Update14:01
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sballe_morning14:01
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dougwigwe're giving a feature branch a try.  i wrote a small wiki, but it's crazy short, because it's basically, "go track this remote branch"14:01
dougwig#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/FeatureBranch14:01
dougwig(someone, anyone, feel free to edit that.)14:02
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dougwigmany of the reviews have been moved:14:02
dougwig#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas_reviews14:02
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dougwigdriver reviews will be moved once the current ones are passing jenkins again.14:02
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dougwigany questions/comments on the v2 feature branch?14:02
sbalukoffYay for having it?14:03
sballe_+114:03
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sballe_As a passing comment it looks like Monty and the infra team are working towards somethign llike this: http://inaugust.com/post/10814:03
vjay7hi14:03
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xgermanso fewature branch means we are part of Kilo?14:04
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sballe_yes that is what I am told. We should merge in kilo14:04
dougwigno, feature branch means that we have a playground to get things into without as many rules as master.  "graduation" requirements have not yet been set.14:05
dougwigit likely means kilo, though.14:05
xgermanso it's like  a stealth incubator?14:05
sballe_without that many rules14:05
dougwigwithout the visibility or packaging benefits, but shorter-lived, yes.14:05
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xgermanok, got it14:06
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sbalukoffAny path forward is better than no path forward, eh.14:06
TrevorVsbalukoff, I prefer to run in circles o_014:06
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sballe_sbakukoff +114:07
sbalukoffTrevorV: Haha!14:07
dougwigon that note, please go give feedback on the top couple of reviews.  we want to start getting them in.14:07
sballe_ok14:08
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dougwigany questions here?  else we'll move on.14:09
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vjay7so if someone downloads juno they cant get v2 at all?14:09
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dougwigno, it's not in juno at all.  if they download the git repo, then they'll have access to the remote branch if they know about it.14:10
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sballe_dougwig, we should make sure we send an email to the ML advertisign for it14:11
dougwigsballe_: good idea14:11
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dougwig#action dougwig email ML about feature branch14:11
dougwigok, moving on14:12
dougwig#topic Open Discussion14:12
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dougwigi've got one small item, which is that the meeting wiki is getting crazy long.  are there standards for trimming it, or will anyone be upset if we chop out a bunch of old meeting agendas?14:12
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bloganchop it14:13
xgerman+114:13
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sballe_dougwig, can we put the chopped pages into a seperate page? I like to keep the history14:13
dougwigsballe_: sure14:13
sballe_thanks14:13
blogangood bedtime stories14:13
dougwigany other items for open discussion?14:14
sballe_I can do this later today14:14
sbalukoffCool.14:14
sballe_the chopping ;-)14:14
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bloganany update on the keystone/barbican issue?14:14
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dougwigrm_work ?14:14
xgermanI wrote back to him :-)14:14
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sbalukoffOne thing I did want to point out: Sorry I had to duck out of the Octavia meeting yesterday. I know there was a lot of confusion around the launchpad blueprint stuff. I've written up my thoughts in an e-mail that I've sent to the openstack-dev list. I would love to get your feedback on that, once you've had time to actually read it. :)14:15
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sballe_sbalukoff, sounds good. I was going to ask about that :)]14:15
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dougwigis the subject, "my reign of tyranny continues..." ?14:16
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sbalukoffdougwig: Ooh, dang! I totally missed an opportunity there.14:16
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sballe_dougwig, lol14:17
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bloganit should be "my reign of book writing continues"14:17
dougwiglol14:17
sbalukoffHaha!14:17
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johnsomsbalukoff Thanks for the email.14:18
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TrevorVsbalukoff, #action learn to TLDR14:18
dougwigi don't see rm_work responding.  so unless anyone has anything else for open discussion, we'll end early.  going once?14:19
TrevorVrm_work, rm_you|wtf14:19
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sbalukoffTrevorV: Aren't you the one good at condensing stuff into digestible verbage?14:19
TrevorVeither of those is him, and the |wtf means his server is failing in some way14:19
TrevorVsbalukoff, touche14:19
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rm_workI am here, sorry14:20
rm_workbathroom14:20
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vivek-ebaywho is rm_you|wtf ?14:20
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TrevorVvivek-ebay, rm_work's other account14:20
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rm_workdougwig: yeah, I need to read your response this morning14:20
dougwigyou mean xgerman's?  i don't recall sending one yet.  :)14:20
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rm_workoh14:21
rm_workman, it's early14:21
rm_worki read that as you14:21
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TrevorVrm_work, can't function before noon14:21
rm_workyeah, I responded to xgerman, could use more people chiming in14:21
rm_workpretty much, TrevorV  <_<14:21
xgermanwell, r_work can you ask with HOrizon in the tittle?14:22
TrevorVrm_work, ^^14:22
rm_workYeah, I guess I can forward that -- my assumption was that we could do that, it would just be "is that ok"14:22
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rm_workbecause coming from the API, it's another action14:23
rm_workno simple yes/no button14:23
xgermanyeah, if it can be condensed in a heat template it would be ok, there, too14:23
xgermanor the client deals with it14:23
rm_workwell, I don't know how Heat would do it14:23
sbalukoffIs there really any viable alternative that's likely to be approved?14:23
rm_worksince Heat specifically can't create Trusts14:23
rm_worksbalukoff: don't think so :/14:24
dougwigso how would heat create LBs' with certs?14:24
sbalukoffThat's what I figured. Anyway, I'll chime in with that on the discussion.14:24
rm_workreally the point of this was to get everyone to read this and accept it now so I don't get a lot of complaints later :P14:24
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sbalukoffrm_work: Smart move!14:24
rm_workdougwig: once the Trust is created a single time, it's good moving forward indefinitely14:25
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dougwigahh, so it becomes an on boarding step for new users, before you can let heat do anything with it.14:25
rm_workyes14:26
xgermanthat sounds fair14:26
dougwiggive me your name, email, address.  now credit card.  now click yes to these next 20 dialogs (lbaas, vpnaas, ...).  sweet, you're a cloud user, welcome!14:26
rm_workok cool. I'll investigate the actual Horizon integration to make sure Horizon CAN create a Trust somehow14:26
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rm_workand that the kind of dialog we're envisioning is kosher14:27
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rm_workand we just agree that if the user is coming in through the API directly, they'll have to figure out the Trust thing once :(14:27
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rm_workwe'll give some hints14:27
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dougwigerror message: "yo dawg, imma let you finish, but first you have to go create the best trust of all time."14:28
rm_worklolol14:28
sbalukoffhah14:28
rm_workso true14:29
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rm_workso, that's it for me I think14:29
dougwigok, thanks for the update14:29
dougwiganything else from folks?14:29
TrevorV*crickets*14:30
dougwigok, ending early today....14:30
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sbalukoffBack to bed for me!14:30
sbalukoffYay!14:30
sballe_bye14:30
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dougwig#endmeeting14:31
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bloganadios14:31
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dougwigbye all, see you on the flip side.14:31
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eglynn_#startmeeting ceilometer15:00
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eglynn_hey folks15:01
eglynn_show of hands for the ceilo weekly?15:01
fabiogo/15:01
llu-laptopo/15:01
gordco/15:01
ildikov_o_, more reading than writing (parallel meeting...)15:01
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eglynn_#topic Juno-RC1 status15:02
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_nadya_o/15:02
eglynn_#link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/juno-rc115:02
silehto/15:02
eglynn_we've 5 bugs still outstanding15:02
eglynn_I've bumped a few that didn't look like they'd make it15:03
DinaBelovao/15:03
ityaptino/15:03
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eglynn_I'd like to delay RC1 until at least https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1309555 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357869 are in15:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1309555 in ceilometer "Retry connection to mongodb on AutoReconnect exceptions" [Medium,In progress]15:03
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gordci'm not sure we'll resolve this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/134881815:03
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1348818 in keystone "Unittests do not succeed with random PYTHONHASHSEED value" [Medium,In progress]15:03
eglynn_gordc: yeah, that one has been hanging around like a bad smell :)15:04
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eglynn_gordc: I'm not 100% sure it's still a kosher bug15:04
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eglynn_gordc: what's your feeling on it?15:04
DinaBelovaeglynn_, as for the mongo replica set retry - Igor has almost fixed it to your suggestion15:04
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eglynn_DinaBelova: nice! :)15:04
DinaBelovahe's testing it right now15:04
gordceglynn_: yeah... i'm sorta spinning wheels on that one so if anyone else has an idea, feel free to jump in15:04
DinaBelovato be sure it works nice15:04
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eglynn_OK, I'll try to take another look once I get the https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357869 squared away15:05
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357869 in ceilometer "duplicate samples for network.services.lb.member" [Medium,In progress]15:05
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eglynn_(WIP patch is up for the sample dupes, needs a bit more polish and test coverage tho)15:06
eglynn_what about https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1372912 ?15:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1372912 in ceilometer "Unit tests at real HBase are too long" [Medium,In progress]15:06
nsaje-luncho/ sorry guys, was stuck in traffic15:06
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_nadya_https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115290/  looks good to me15:06
DinaBelovaeglynn_, for me as well15:06
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eglynn__nadya_, DinaBelova: cool, use your super-powers! :)15:07
DinaBelovajust did not set +2 waiting gordc to take a look on :)15:07
_nadya_gordc: what do you think?15:07
eglynn_DinaBelova: a-ha, cool, got it15:07
DinaBelovaeglynn_, as gordc added several comments to it15:07
DinaBelovawith -1 :)15:07
eglynn_DinaBelova: yep, I see that now15:07
gordc_nadya_: i'm hesitant on that patch still to be honest... but i won't block since i don't have hbase set up15:08
eglynn_OK, best to that discussion play out on gerrit I guess?15:08
DinaBelovaeglynn_, yeah15:08
_nadya_I guess we have no chance to see HBase on devstack in Juno..15:08
gordcif we can get that code tested in gate that's cool15:08
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eglynn_so the original plan was to cut RC1 by EoW15:08
DinaBelova_nadya_, yeah - so that'll be just preparation to it15:09
eglynn_but looks like we'll bleed into Monday15:09
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gordc_nadya_: i see... yeah than i'd prefer it not in.. (but again, i assume mirantis needs it in?)15:09
DinaBelovagordc, actually this just gives us great opportunity to test all this structure together, not something special15:10
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eglynn_FYI Tuesday next week would be the drop-dead day for RC1, as all projects need to have a release candidate by end-of-month15:10
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DinaBelovaeglynn_, a-ha, thanks!15:10
gordcDinaBelova: gotcha... yeah, i'm cool with it if it actually gets tested... which i don't think it is right now.15:11
gordcwe can figure it out on gerrit though :)15:11
eglynn_cool15:11
eglynn_so let's gun for having everything we need landed on Monday if at all poss15:11
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eglynn_anything else on rc1?15:12
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eglynn_#topic TSDaaS/gnocchi status15:12
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eglynn_jd__: the floor is your's!15:12
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jd__yeah!15:13
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jd__so great progress on the archive policy front as it's ready to be merged15:13
jd__the dispatcher saw great progress too thanks to sileht15:13
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jd__we have also support for some swift resources now15:13
eglynn_cool, yeah nice work sileht!15:13
sileht:)15:13
jd__and well I'll still have things on the plate to do15:13
jd__but everything's going great so far15:13
silehtswift is better to generate a tone of sample :p15:14
sileht(in devstack)15:14
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eglynn_so for now are we defering on the instance server_group attribute?15:14
eglynn_(for alarming over heat autoscaling groups)15:14
jd__eglynn_: we can add the attribute if you need it15:15
jd__it's just one line of code :)15:15
eglynn_yeah we can add that support in a patch subsequent to the dispatcher15:15
eglynn_cool :)15:15
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eglynn_BTW amalagon is back and working on her custom aggregator patches again15:16
jd__cool15:16
jd__questions?15:16
eglynn_she'll be using the new archive policy logic to introspect over the available granularities for the target entity15:16
eglynn_... first customer for that stuff :)15:17
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jd__nice15:17
eglynn_sounds good, thanks jd__15:17
eglynn_#topic Tempest status15:17
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eglynn_anything new in the world of Tempest?15:18
DinaBelovaeglynn_, really no progress from last week15:18
DinaBelovaat least what I know...15:18
DinaBelovastill the same kind of blocked thing15:18
* eglynn_ needs to get up to speed on the latest re. the "libification" of Tempest15:18
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DinaBelova:D15:18
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DinaBelovayeah, that's true15:19
eglynn_seeing as we'll likely be needing to use that in kilo15:19
DinaBelovaeglynn_, yeah, it looks like only one solution here...15:19
eglynn_yep, the wind is very firmly blowing in that direction15:20
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eglynn_#topic Kilo summit planning15:20
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eglynn_so with the re-org on the summit format, the number of slot per session is way down on last time15:20
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eglynn_i.e. one day less of scheduled design session == 33% fewer slots to share out15:21
eglynn_we had 10 slots in ATL15:21
eglynn_looks like we'll only get 6 in Paris15:21
DinaBelovawow15:22
nsajewhew, better make them count then :)15:22
fabiogeglynn_, these are 1hr slot?15:22
eglynn_fabiog: 40mins15:22
DinaBelovaeglynn_, it looks like we'll have lots of joint sessions...15:22
eglynn_yeap15:22
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* eglynn_ should fight to get back the missing 0.6666 slot ;)15:23
fabiogeglynn_ I am wondering if it is better to have a "theme" per session or session and 1/2 so we can talk of related topics together15:23
DinaBelovaeglynn_, definitely you should :D15:23
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eglynn_fabiog: yeah, good point15:23
ildikoveh, 6 does not sound too good, however I like that number in general :(15:24
DinaBelovafabiog, yeah, after all the topics will be on place, it'll be possible15:24
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eglynn_so last we talked about using a google docs spreadsheet for proposals15:24
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eglynn_here's something simple to start ...15:24
eglynn_#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ISbSNe9kojkONFPIHH2oc4pkt3qunKzTPldfd97qJOg/edit?usp=sharing15:24
eglynn_feel free to hack on the format15:25
eglynn_(as well as adding actual proposals)15:25
eglynn_the "Requires a full slot?" column is just a (y/n) to make it easier to find candidates for merging15:25
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llu-laptopeglynn_: what does theme mean?15:26
fabiogllu-laptop, it could be a general topic like improving performance15:27
eglynn_llu-laptop: Theme column similarly was meant to help identify similar topics to merge (e.g. gnocchi, SNMP, testing, performance, etc.)15:27
llu-laptopok15:27
eglynn_so in general, I'd expect the proposer and the leader to be the same person15:27
eglynn_and the session leader to be implicitly signing up to drive the implementation work15:28
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eglynn_but maybe we'll have some cases where an idea is thrown out on the table, to see if anyone will bite in terms of running with it15:29
eglynn_anyhoo, happy hacking on that spreadsheet! :)15:29
ildikoveglynn_: thanks for this docco!15:29
eglynn_when should we discuss selecting proposals and matching slots?15:30
eglynn_the weekly meeting after next maybe?15:30
* jd__ wrote a first line to show example15:30
DinaBelovajd__, hehe, "required a full slot? Variant: y/n" - "Maybe"15:30
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DinaBelova:)15:30
eglynn_jd__: cool :)15:30
jd__:-D15:31
eglynn_so is two weeks long enough for folks to get their proposals in?15:31
DinaBelovaeglynn_, I suppose so15:31
jd__should be15:31
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jd__I hope people that will propose stuff to discuss will actually work on them later :)15:32
ildikoveglynn_: two weeks from today?15:32
eglynn_ildikov: yep, that work?15:32
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eglynn_jd__: yeah, if you nominate yourself as leader for the topic, that would be the expectation all right15:33
ildikoveglynn_: will try my best, but well more time is almost always better ;)15:33
eglynn_#info aim to select design summit topics and match to sessions at Oct 9th weekly meeting15:33
eglynn_note of course we also have the full day Friday for the "contributors meetup" (i.e. the pod++)15:34
eglynn_... despite Friday traditionally being the day everyone at summit is zombified ;)15:34
eglynn_#topic Open discussion15:35
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eglynn_anyone familar with this "Win The Enterprise" management working group?15:36
eglynn_seems to have come from a session in ATL15:36
eglynn_#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Win_the_Enterprise15:36
gordceglynn_: never heard of it until you mentioned it this morning15:37
DinaBelovaeglynn_, as well for me15:37
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eglynn_I have a call with them later, for some reason they're interested in zabbix integration (as mentioned on the #os-ceilo channel earlier)15:37
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* gordc see intel email15:37
gordcllu-laptop: you should know right? intel is a small company :)15:38
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eglynn_#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+spec/zabbix-agent-adoption15:38
llu-laptopgordc: I've heard some gruops in intel is working on enterprise readiness, but don't know this :(15:39
ildikovhmm, interesting...15:39
ildikoveglynn_: was this topic discussed today on the channel?15:40
eglynn_anyhoo, I'll try to smoke the motivation for using zabbix in this way (i.e. as an in-VM agent, as opposed to polling the zabbix API from the central agent)15:40
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eglynn_ildikov: yeah I mentioned it earlier, discussed briefly with gordc15:40
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eglynn_ildikov: note that it's a different approach to the one you -2'd on ceilo-specs15:41
gordcildikov: yeah. check logs for my name.15:41
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gordcildikov: i called you out :)15:41
ildikoveglynn_: sure, I quickly checked the BP you copied the link here of15:41
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gordci blamed everything on you.15:41
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ildikovgordc: sorry, today I had a visit at the doctor... :(15:41
ildikovgordc: so I'm already suffering for my sins no worries ;)15:42
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gordcildikov: lol. it's not my fault.15:42
ildikoveglynn_: gordc: anyway, thanks, I will check the BP and the logs also later today15:42
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ildikovgordc: really, I thought that it's some woodoo thing that's going on with me now :)15:43
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gordcildikov: i cannot confirm or deny anything.15:44
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ildikovgordc: I thought so :)15:44
gordcsidenote, is there any links to docs we added in juno?15:44
eglynn_#link http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/content/ch_admin-openstack-telemetry.html15:45
ildikoveglynn_: will your call be about this Zabbix integration stuff or it is just one topic from many?15:45
eglynn_ildikov: just one topic from many on the agenda IIRC15:45
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ildikoveglynn_: thanks for the link :)15:45
gordceglynn_: cool cool. thanks15:45
ildikoveglynn_: ok, cool, let me know if you herad there anything interesting please :)15:45
eglynn_ildikov: absolutely!15:46
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eglynn_have we run out of stuff to chat about? :)15:46
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eglynn_cool enough, let's call it a wrap15:47
gordceglynn_: nothing from me.15:47
eglynn_thanks folks for a productive meeting!15:47
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eglynn_#endmeeting ceilometer15:47
DinaBelovaI guess that's it15:47
fabiogthanks15:47
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mtreinish#startmeeting qa17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 25 17:00:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:00
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
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mtreinishhi who's here today?17:01
mlavallehi17:01
dpatersony017:01
jlanouxo/17:01
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mtreinish#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_September_25th_2014_.281700_UTC.2917:01
mtreinish^^^ Today's agenda17:01
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asselinhi17:01
mtreinishok, let's get started17:02
mtreinish#topic Specs Review17:02
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mtreinishso I don't think there's been any change here, I haven't seen any new specs proposals17:02
mtreinishandreaf: and sry I haven't gotten a chance to look at ssh-auth yet17:02
andreafmtreinish, np17:03
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mtreinishdoes anyone have a pending spec review they'd like to bring up?17:03
mtreinishI think I'm going to drop this topic from the agenda until kilo opens up17:04
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dpaterson+117:04
mtreinishbecause I don't see anymore specs going through until we're into summit planning17:04
andreafmtreinish, sounds good17:04
mtreinishok let's move on17:04
mtreinish#topic Blueprints17:04
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mtreinish#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/juno17:05
mtreinishso I've seen some good progress on bps the last week17:05
mtreinishdoes anyone have any updates on an open bp?17:05
andreafyes17:05
andreafwell as masayukig is probably not here17:05
dpaterson#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/post-run-cleanup17:06
andreaffor the tempest-client-scenario one, all tests are now migrated17:06
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dpatersonI should be done with one more iteration around doc changes17:06
mtreinishandreaf: \o/17:06
dpatersonAny more comments before I push another patch set are welcome17:06
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mtreinishdpaterson: so, when I took a quick look before it looked good. But realize that a patchset that big is very reviewer unfriendly17:07
mtreinishso it might be a while before it gets approved17:07
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andreafdpaterson, I'll try to have a look tomorrow17:07
dpatersontx17:07
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mtreinishok, does anyone else have a bp to bring up?17:08
andreafmtreinish: regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/tempest-client-scenarios17:08
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andreafmtreinish, I now started the cleanup phase, there's a nice series of patches up for review17:09
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andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/tempest-client-scenarios,n,z17:09
mtreinishandreaf: yeah, those will be good to land. We can finally get rid of those official workaround paths17:09
andreafit's 1500 LoC less in tempest17:10
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andreafnext #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/resource-cleanup17:10
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mtreinishwell, sort of. You're not really counting that you duplicated a lot for the tempest client base scenario test classes :)17:10
andreafI posted the first series of patches, a few already merged, others going through the gate, more pending review :)17:10
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andreafmtreinish: yes you're right17:11
andreafmtreinish: but it sounded good ;)17:11
andreaf#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:+bp/resource-cleanup,n,z17:11
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andreafand finally regarding test accounts bp #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/test-accounts17:12
andreafI solved the issues with the non-isolated jobs17:12
mtreinishandreaf: once we get the resource cleanup stuff landed and dpaterson's cleanup tool we can start catch leaked resources in the gate easily which will be awesome17:12
andreafyes that will be really nice to have17:13
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andreafgmann had some concerns on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107685 which I addressed, so the patch is going through check again, but then it should be ready for merge17:14
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mtreinishandreaf: ok, I'll try to take a look at that today17:14
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andreafand once scenario migration and test accounts and resource cleanup are done I'll resume work on the multi auth bp17:15
andreafresource cleanup first part I mean17:15
mtreinishandreaf: heh, don't you have enough on your plate? :)17:15
andreafthere's the second bit of the resource cleanup to be done, but I'll go around and ask for help for that one17:15
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andreafthat's all I have on bps17:16
mtreinishok does anyone else have a bp to discuss?17:16
mtreinishoh, I did want to bring up tempest-lib17:17
mtreinishright now we're blocked on using tempest lib because of global requirements freeze17:18
mtreinishfor example: https://review.openstack.org/117649 can't pass the gate until kilo opens for global requirements17:18
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mtreinishso I was curious what thoughts were on open CLI test framework patches (I think there are some)17:19
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mtreinishI'm thinking we should block everything until kilo opens and move it to tempest-lib17:19
mtreinishdoes anyone have any thoughts on this?17:20
andreafone of the resource cleanup patches is for CLI tests as well17:20
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andreafI'd be fine with waiting, only I cannot really enforce the hacking rule until all patches merge17:21
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mtreinishandreaf: hmm, well that should be harmless I think that can land without issues. I'll just have to rebase the migration patch17:21
andreafI could do an exclusion rule for CLI17:21
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andreafmtreinish: ok17:21
mtreinishit was more for functional changes to the cli framework. Like around bringing up the clients or the api around calling them17:21
mtreinishthe patch above shows what it looks like after we move to the lib17:22
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mtreinishwell, I won't start -2 anything until yet :) but I thought I should bring it up.17:23
mtreinishok if there aren't any bps to discuss let's move on17:23
mtreinish#topic Devstack17:24
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mtreinishdtroyer: are you around?17:24
andreafmtreinish: sorry,  I'd have to leave now, do you have anything else specific for me?17:25
mtreinishdoes anyone else have anything to discuss about devstack?17:25
mtreinishandreaf: nope your bps were probably it17:26
andreafmtreinish: ok17:26
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mtreinishok well lets move on we can come back to devstack if dtroyer shows up17:27
mtreinish#topic Grenade17:27
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mtreinishsdague, jogo: anything new on the grenade front this week?17:27
mtreinishI've seen some patches from EmilienM on javelin2 improvments17:28
sdaguenot really17:28
mtreinishsdague: ok, thanks17:28
mtreinishI guess let's move on to the next topic then17:28
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mtreinish#topic Bugs17:29
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mtreinish#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tempest-bug-report17:29
mtreinishgmann pulled the numbers for this week there ^^^17:29
mtreinishit looks like we contained growth but didn't help with the backlog on bugs17:30
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mtreinishlooking at the rotation etherpad I think coolsvap|afk volunteered17:30
mtreinishbut I guess he's not around so he can't provide an update17:31
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mtreinish#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-bug-triage-rotation17:31
mtreinishlooks like next week maurosr volunteered17:32
mtreinishhopefully we'll be able to clear out the new bug backlog and start making better use of the tracker soon17:32
mtreinishdoes anyone else have anything else to discuss about bugs?17:32
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dtroyerugh - this schedule…sorry I'm late17:33
mtreinishdtroyer: no worries17:33
mtreinishoh I guess it's lunchtime for you now17:33
mtreinish#topic Devstack17:34
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mtreinishdtroyer: so anything to discuss about devstack this week?17:34
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dtroyerI want to start preparing for juno/stable, so basically focusing on stuff we want there.  From the standpoint of what we want for grenade juno -> master17:35
dtroyerthe one major thing I'm trying to get in yet is rcrit's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/98854/ to change how we do SSL17:35
dtroyerthat configures everything for ssl, and sets us up to change the tls-proxy.  I'd like to get rid of stud and use apache for that, post stable branch17:36
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mtreinishdtroyer: yeah doing that through apache would definitely be nicer.17:37
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mtreinishso are you looking to land anything else before you start the juno branch cut?17:37
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dtroyerI don't have a specific like prepared, but what is in the queue for migrating services to mod_wsgi17:38
dtroyers/like/list/17:38
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mtreinishok, I was just looking for things to prioritze reviews in the minutes17:39
mtreinishdtroyer: is there anything else?17:39
dtroyeroh, specifically, I'd like to get https://review.openstack.org/111734 in.  the rest of the logging cleanup will have to wait now17:40
mtreinish#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111734/17:40
dtroyerfwiw, the logging stuff is still in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/devstack-logging, I need to move it to a blueprint and probably actually start using those17:40
dtroyerfini17:40
mtreinishdtroyer: oh, yeah I was going to talk to you about bps/specs for devstack in kilo17:41
mtreinishbut we can do that outside of the meeting17:41
mtreinishdtroyer: thanks for the update17:41
dtroyerI started cleaning up bugs, many to go yet…17:42
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mtreinishsigh, yeah bugs are a constant process17:42
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mtreinishok, lets move on to critical reviews17:43
mtreinish#topic Critical Reviews17:43
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mtreinishok does anyone have any reviews that they feel could use some extra attention?17:43
mtreinishI have 2:17:44
mtreinish#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113674/17:44
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mtreinish#link https://review.openstack.org/12286117:45
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sdague#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124069/ is the fix from this morning, had a typo in the first revision, so it's back in check17:45
sdaguehopefully that will make debugging things easier17:45
mtreinishsdague: cool17:46
mtreinishok, if there aren't any other reviews I'll open the floor17:46
mtreinish#topic Open Discussion17:46
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mtreinishdoes anyone have anything else that they'd like to discuss?17:47
jlanouxmtreinish: didn't you want to talk about the summit brainstorming?17:48
mlavalleyeah, it's in the agenda17:48
mtreinishjlanoux: oh yeah, thanks I missed that :)17:48
mtreinish#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-qa-summit-topics17:48
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mtreinishit was more just a reminder that the etherpad is out there17:48
mtreinishand if anyone wanted to discuss something briefly that's on the list now17:49
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jlanouxmtreinish: ok :)17:49
mlavalleso brainstorming means do it to the etherpad and we will refine / discuss later?17:49
mtreinishI'm planning to have a dedicated meeting or 2 closer to summit about that17:49
mtreinishmlavalle: yep, just jot down anything you think we should discuss at summit on that list17:50
mlavalle:-)17:50
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mtreinishbecause we're going to have a day which is like a mini midcycle, so even if a topic doesn't get a dedicated session it might still be good for a smaller conversation then17:51
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mtreinishok, well if there aren't any other topics to discuss I guess we'll end it early today17:52
mtreinishthanks everyone17:52
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mlavallebye!17:52
mtreinish#endmeeting17:52
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mriedemwho's running this thing?21:00
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mriedemmikal: ?21:01
lbragstadmriedem: you are21:01
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mriedemcreep alert21:01
lbragstad:)21:01
leifzI elect mriedem.21:01
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n0anosecond :-)21:01
mriedemleifz: didn't know you were still alive21:01
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leifzyou and dansmith...21:01
leifzmriedem: it's a bit of a short story.21:02
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* jogo lurks21:02
dansmithleifz won the lottery21:02
dansmithdoesn't care about nova anymore21:02
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leifzdansmith doesn't care about nova anymore? I find that hard to believe.21:02
mriedemwhat's jerdfelt's excuse?21:02
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dansmithleifz won the lottery and doesn't care about nova anymore <-- short story21:03
dansmithwhat's the rule about when the teacher shows up?21:03
mriedemknickers and jumpers21:03
mriedemtakes time to get those on21:03
dansmithmriedem: seriously, just start it and lets go21:03
mriedemi don't know the things21:04
dansmith#startmeeting nova21:04
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 25 21:04:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is dansmith. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:04
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:04
dansmith#chair mriedem21:04
openstackCurrent chairs: dansmith mriedem21:04
mriedem#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting21:04
mriedemdoes that work?21:04
dansmithI'm on a cell connection, so I can't run it21:04
dansmithmriedem: yep, go21:04
mriedemok, juno rc121:04
leifzo/21:04
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mriedemsdague just dumped 3 bugs on the list, those are in the agenda now21:04
mriedemoh yeah who's here?21:04
melwitto/21:05
alaskio/21:05
dansmitho/21:05
n0anoo/21:05
edleafeo/21:05
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mriedemcool so juno rc1 is supposed to be today21:05
mriedemthis is the rc1 bug list https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-rc121:05
mriedem#link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-rc121:05
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jogoo/21:06
mriedem9 open, 6 of those in progress21:06
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mriedemsounds like we might have a patch for something similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/137396221:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1373962 in nova "LVM backed VM fails to launch" [High,Confirmed]21:06
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mriedemso if someone can dig that up (ML?) it'd be good21:06
mriedemanother confirmed is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/135747621:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357476 in nova "Timeout waiting for vif plugging callback for instance" [Critical,Confirmed]21:07
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mriedemdansmith: you improved logging for that,21:07
mriedembut not sure if anything has changed21:07
mriedemor if we've noticed21:07
dansmithah, yeah, was waiting to get a post-patch hit on that21:07
mriedemmikal noted we should untarget from rc1 if it's not being worked, i'd second that21:07
dansmithwe should try to see if it's still getting hit before we do I think21:08
mriedemok21:08
dansmithat least so we know if it is a thing we're capable of looking at21:08
mriedemdo we have a query?21:08
dansmithI'm out tomorrow, otherwise I'd do that tomorrow21:08
* mriedem looks21:08
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dansmithwe must21:08
mriedemrunning it21:08
dansmith#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/046741.html21:08
dansmiththat's the ML post about the LVM issue with config drive21:08
mriedem#action see if https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1357476 is still a problem21:08
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357476 in nova "Timeout waiting for vif plugging callback for instance" [Critical,Confirmed]21:08
mriedem0 hits in 7 days21:09
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dansmithheh, well, can't be that big of a deal then21:09
dansmithI say untarget21:09
mriedemok i'll untarget21:09
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dansmithso, on the LVM thing21:09
dansmithlooks like maybe mikal thought that the only consequence was not being able to have an LVM-formatted configdrive21:10
mriedemis this flwang's patch for rbd then?21:10
dansmithbut I think the bug is about using LVM breaking configdrive incidentally, right?21:10
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dansmithI don't think so, that's for evacuate and unrelated AFAICT21:10
mriedemok21:10
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mriedemit's not popping out to me if there is a related patch up for that issue from the ML21:11
mriedemanyway, moving on21:11
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mriedemthis is the other rc1 bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/132365821:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1323658 in nova "Nova resize/restart results in guest ending up in inconsistent state with Neutron" [Critical,Confirmed]21:12
dansmithyeah, don't see it21:12
mriedemarosen isn't here21:12
dansmithso, on that21:12
dansmithI worked with him for a few days to try to get to the bottom of it21:12
dansmithhe actually thinks that it's a sequencing thing in the tempest test,21:12
dansmithand not something that actually matters in the real world21:13
mriedemok, still top gate bug21:13
mriedembut tempest...21:13
dansmithyeah, but not critical for the release as a result21:13
dansmithbased on what I heard last21:13
dansmithso, painful, but not something we need to hold up for21:13
mriedemok, i'll untarget rc121:13
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mriedemok so that leaves the lvm thing for rc121:14
mriedemanything else on rc1?21:14
dansmithWhen mikal pops up,21:14
dansmithwe should make sure he looks at the LVM thing, since we think he might've broke it21:14
dansmiththen he can decide if it can wait for rc2 or if it's worth delaying rc121:15
mriedemsure, we have mikal's revert linked into the bug21:15
mriedemwhat's the tag for a new topic? topic?21:15
dansmithI think21:15
mriedem#topic bugs21:16
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dansmithlike a pro21:16
mriedem\o/21:16
mriedemi added 3 bugs here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Weekly_Nova_team_meeting21:16
mriedemone is the lvm config drive rc1 bug21:16
mriedemone is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1371677 which is our happy periodic task / resize timeout bug21:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1371677 in nova "Race in resource tracker causes 500 response on deleting during verify_resize state " [Critical,Fix committed]21:17
mriedemsince e-r is backed up to hell we don't know if dansmith's latest pach for that has resolved it21:17
dansmithstill like five hours away from e-r showing us anything21:17
mriedemwe suspect we still need some logic in the libvirt driver to check if the volume exists before calling (blocking) blockdev to get the volume size, because danpb said that'll hang if the volume is gone21:17
mriedemwhich is causing the timeout21:17
dansmithwell,21:18
mriedemi didn't get a chance to work on that today21:18
dansmithbut we'll be doing that without the lock,21:18
dansmithso it will only delay the periodic, but not really a probem right?21:18
mriedemi'd have to double check21:18
dansmiththat's my understanding, FWIW21:18
jogoIts also odd that we have an RPC CALL (versus cast) in nova-delete in this case21:18
mriedemjogo: cyeoh said there were some notes in the code on why that is21:18
mriedemi didn't look last night though21:18
dansmithyeah, there is some reson21:19
jogomriedem: yeah but I think we can do better21:19
dansmithI forget why21:19
mriedemcyeoh said some other race21:19
jogodansmith: it has to check the source of the migrate21:19
jogobefore moving on or something21:19
mriedemdansmith: ok, so you moved the lock past this now:21:19
mriedemresources = self.driver.get_available_resource(self.nodename)21:19
jogobut maybe long term we can move this logic to the conductor so it can be async21:19
dansmithmriedem: right21:19
mriedemthat's what would be eventually hitting the blockdev call21:19
mriedemok21:19
jogofrom API21:19
mriedemalright, so thinking dansmith's fix is good21:20
mriedemwe'll find out when e-r flushes21:20
mriedemthe 3rd bug that sdague had listed was https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/118818921:20
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1188189 in cinder "Some server-side 'SSL' communication fails to check certificates (use of HTTPSConnection)" [High,In progress]21:20
mriedemthat's an ssl issue, which is really like 5 bugs in nova apparently21:20
mriedemsounds like there are separate bugs opened for each21:20
mriedemso if people want something to work on, pick those up21:21
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mriedem#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1188189/comments/5421:21
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mriedemthose are the separate bugs21:21
mriedemanything else on bugs? i guess checkout the 'in progress' rc1 bugs for code reviews21:21
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mriedemsince we can't tag rc1 until those are closed out probably21:22
mriedemmoving on21:22
mriedem#topic gate status21:22
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mriedem#link http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/21:22
mriedemas noted e-r is backed up21:22
mriedemso we don't know the true state of the gate right now21:22
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mriedemi think we've got fixes out for the top nova bugs in there right now though21:23
mriedemhell, the wsgi test was deleted :)21:23
dansmithheh21:23
mriedemjogo: anything on gate?21:23
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mriedemcategorization rate is high http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/uncategorized.html21:23
mriedembut that will also change when e-r flushes21:23
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jogomriedem: http://jogo.github.io/gate/  is looking decent21:24
mriedemand looks like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122291/ was approved, that was a gate issue21:24
mriedemmoving on21:24
jogomriedem: that page uses graphite so its up to date21:24
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mriedemok21:25
mriedemyeah things seem to be moving at least21:25
mriedem#topic open discussion21:25
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mriedemagenda says summit topics21:25
mriedem#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics21:25
mriedemlike most etherpads it's a mess21:26
mriedem:)21:26
mriedemanyone have anything on summit topics?21:26
mriedemregarding kilo and the bp/spec process,21:26
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mriedemwe approved jogo's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116699/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112733/ will probably be approved when johnthetubaguy wakes up21:27
mriedemstill need to work out some of the runway stuff https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115410/21:27
mriedemany other topics? sub-teams?21:28
dansmithplease no.21:28
mriedemend early?21:28
dansmith+121:28
jogo+121:28
tjones:-)21:28
mriedem#endmeeting21:28
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dansmithmriedem: nice job21:28
mriedemo-)21:28
mriedemsniff you jerks later21:28
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vdreamarkitexWhat is the meeting topic?23:13
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