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| yamahata | hello | 05:00 |
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| yisun | hi | 05:00 |
| yamahata | #startmeeting servicevm-device-manager | 05:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 05:01:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is yamahata. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: servicevm-device-manager)" | 05:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'servicevm_device_manager' | 05:01 |
| yamahata | Do we have bob? | 05:01 |
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| yamahata | Give him a minute | 05:01 |
| yamahata | bmelande: hi | 05:01 |
| s3wong | hello | 05:02 |
| bmelande | yamahata: Hi | 05:02 |
| bmelande | s3wong: Hi | 05:02 |
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| s3wong | bmelande: hello | 05:02 |
| natarajk | hi | 05:02 |
| bmelande | Only two minutes late, improving... :-) | 05:02 |
| yamahata | hi everyone, let's start | 05:02 |
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| yamahata | #topic Announcement | 05:02 |
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| bmelande | natarajk: hi | 05:02 |
| yamahata | This week not so much to announce | 05:02 |
| natarajk | bmelande:hi | 05:03 |
| yamahata | sorry I haven't keep up with the api review. | 05:03 |
| yamahata | #action yamahata process api back log | 05:03 |
| s3wong | yamahata: only that it is 3 days away from the spec approval deadline, so we are all busy trying to get specs approved :-) | 05:03 |
| yamahata | s3wong: yeah. Definitively. | 05:04 |
| bmelande | yamahata: I'm also behind | 05:04 |
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| yamahata | The spec review is moved to gerrit system. | 05:04 |
| yamahata | So please move the discussion to gerrit. | 05:05 |
| natarajk | yamahata: i added my comments last week | 05:05 |
| yamahata | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103724/ servicevm api review | 05:05 |
| bmelande | yamahata: will do | 05:05 |
| yamahata | natarajk: Yes, thank you. I'm aware of it. | 05:05 |
| yamahata | sorry for not timely response. | 05:05 |
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| yamahata | I surely will review it. It might be after Neutron spec approval deadline | 05:06 |
| natarajk | i know you are busy with Juno specs :) | 05:06 |
| yamahata | any announcement from anyone? | 05:06 |
| yamahata | #topic api discussion | 05:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "api discussion (Meeting topic: servicevm-device-manager)" | 05:07 | |
| yamahata | It seems every one is try to catch up the discussion. Do we have special issues to discuss here? | 05:08 |
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| s3wong | yamahata: I put my comments on gerrit already (as well as the gdoc) | 05:08 |
| yamahata | s3wong: thanks, okay let's continue discussion there. | 05:08 |
| yamahata | let's move on | 05:09 |
| yamahata | #topic terminology | 05:09 |
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| yamahata | Last week we discussed a bit to unify servicevm and dnrm. | 05:09 |
| yamahata | The first difference is terminology. hosting device vs resource | 05:09 |
| yamahata | I think everyone has their opinion on terminology. | 05:10 |
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| natarajk | yamahata: after reviewing your specs, i am fine with the terminologies documented in the api spec | 05:10 |
| yamahata | personally I don't stick which terminology, but we need to come consensus | 05:10 |
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| yamahata | natarajk: So hosting device and template is acceptable for you? | 05:11 |
| natarajk | yes | 05:11 |
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| yamahata | natarajk: wow great. | 05:11 |
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| yamahata | This issue is resolved. | 05:12 |
| yamahata | next topic | 05:12 |
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| yamahata | #topic l3-routervm-plugin | 05:12 |
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| yamahata | For reference l3-servicevm-plugin, I've started with Bob's implementation | 05:12 |
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| yamahata | I'm trying to identify which is common and which is the csr specific. | 05:13 |
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| bmelande | yamamata: have you gotten any indication if your BP will get clearance for Juno? | 05:13 |
| yamahata | bmelande: Not yet. | 05:14 |
| yamahata | There are no response yet. I'm still waiting from Kyle. | 05:14 |
| bmelande | yamahata: Ok. | 05:14 |
| yamahata | #linke https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101002/ csr1kv routervm | 05:14 |
| yamahata | I started this source code. | 05:14 |
| yamahata | bmelande: This repo is the preferable one for me to start with? Or do you have any better public repo? | 05:15 |
| bmelande | yamahata: which repo? | 05:15 |
| yamahata | I mean the gerrit repo or github repo whose branch is csr1kv_for_routing_juno | 05:16 |
| yamahata | I chose the gerrit repo above because the patch size is smaller | 05:16 |
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| bmelande | yamahata: The cisco repo contains the "full" version in that csr1kv_for_routing_juno branch. Then what I submit for review is a boiled down minimal version, to have any chance of getting it in by Juno. | 05:17 |
| bmelande | The one on gerrit does not involve managing a pool of VMs, the full one does. | 05:18 |
| yamahata | bmelande: I see. | 05:18 |
| yamahata | bmelande: I'm wondering how to manage a pool of VMs | 05:19 |
| yamahata | It's because both csr1kv and dnrm implements VM pooling | 05:19 |
| yamahata | So I'm trying to figure out where the feature live in. | 05:19 |
| bmelande | I believe the gerrit patch is more similar to the Brocade patch (without having actually seen that code) | 05:20 |
| natarajk | yamahata: you can look at the supervisor service in dnrm for VM pool management code | 05:20 |
| yamahata | DNRM implement pooling in dnrm server. | 05:20 |
| yamahata | On the other hand csr1kv implements in Neutron server for now. | 05:20 |
| yamahata | So It's a issue. | 05:20 |
| natarajk | yamahata: we are planning a separate OpenStack service anyway | 05:21 |
| yamahata | natarajk: yes. | 05:21 |
| natarajk | so you can take a look at dnrm and start from there | 05:21 |
| yamahata | natarajk: Yes, I had a look at it. | 05:22 |
| yamahata | And I'm looking at csr1kv code trying to firgure out the difference | 05:22 |
| bmelande | yamahata: the pool management in the full version is kept as a separate device manager plugin so it is quite self-contained. | 05:22 |
| yamahata | bmelande: great. | 05:23 |
| yamahata | So the first working version won't implement pooling, and then as the second phase, we would like add pooling feature. | 05:23 |
| yamahata | Does this approach make sense? | 05:24 |
| bmelande | yamahata: +1 | 05:24 |
| yamahata | Or won't work? | 05:24 |
| natarajk | +1 | 05:24 |
| s3wong | yamahata: +1 - we should do it phase by phase | 05:24 |
| natarajk | yes | 05:24 |
| bmelande | gives more time to discuss it too | 05:24 |
| yamahata | #agreed the first version won't implement pooling feature. it will be addressed at 2nd phase. | 05:24 |
| bmelande | similarities, differences | 05:25 |
| bmelande | One thing regarding the router servicde plugin for neutron: | 05:25 |
| bmelande | if the flavor framework actually converges and gets done by Juno I belivee the way to go is to make a router serviuce plugin aligned with that. | 05:26 |
| yamahata | bmelande: +1 | 05:26 |
| s3wong | bmelande: I think it will, it is on schedule for J-2 | 05:26 |
| s3wong | bmelande: in fact, I believe enikanorov has already started coding it (and the spec is the one from markmcclain) | 05:27 |
| bmelande | It would mean that there could be drivers in such a plugin for the different VM-based routers | 05:27 |
| bmelande | s3wong: yes, I got that understanding too. | 05:27 |
| yamahata | #topic open discussion | 05:28 |
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| bmelande | So it is good to keep that flavor framework in mind for any new router service plugin. | 05:29 |
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| s3wong | bmelande: +1 | 05:29 |
| yamahata | bmelande: surely +1 | 05:29 |
| natarajk | +2 | 05:29 |
| bmelande | Also, Gary Duan (varmor) started a modular router service plugin for the old service type framework that he might have plans to rework for flavor framework, | 05:30 |
| yamahata | bmelande: sounds great. any link? | 05:30 |
| s3wong | bmelande: hmm... OK, we should contact garyduan (he is online?) for his patch | 05:31 |
| s3wong | garyduan: hello? | 05:31 |
| bmelande | So we might want to check with him about that, and (especially if rtouter service plugin gets pushed to K), have a joined effort on the plugin. | 05:31 |
| s3wong | bmelande: honestly we would probably have to expect it to get pushed out to 'K' | 05:32 |
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| bmelande | s3wong: Yes that is not unlikely unfortunately given the number of BPs around... | 05:33 |
| bmelande | Gary's old BP for router service plugin for service type framework: #link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/l3-router-service-type-framework | 05:34 |
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| yamahata | bmelande: thanks for the link | 05:35 |
| bmelande | It uses the pre-/post-commit pattern from ML2. | 05:35 |
| s3wong | bmelande: wow, November of last year... | 05:35 |
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| yamahata | We are running out of time. any other topic? | 05:35 |
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| bmelande | s3wong: Yeah, ages ago.... :-) | 05:36 |
| s3wong | bmelande: of course, who would do anything with service type framework now :-) | 05:36 |
| yamahata | Let me raise the last topic(from me) | 05:37 |
| bmelande | s3wong: Nah, let's throw that one back in the flavor discussion so that it can take another 40 iterations... :-) | 05:37 |
| yamahata | The tacker repo is empty now. | 05:38 |
| yamahata | Do you have any objections for me to self-approve my first patches to push them into the repo? | 05:38 |
| yamahata | The code may not be in so good shape, | 05:38 |
| yamahata | but it's very early development stage. | 05:39 |
| yamahata | So it would make sense to have a kind of working code in repo. | 05:39 |
| s3wong | yamahata: sure, do you need bmelande and my +2's? :-) | 05:39 |
| yamahata | s3wong: If you're fine, I'll go without your +2. | 05:40 |
| yamahata | I just wanted to make sure before self-approving | 05:40 |
| natarajk | let's get some code in :) | 05:41 |
| s3wong | yamahata: damn, wanted to exercise the privilege :-) --- please go ahead and push it in | 05:41 |
| bmelande | yamahata: I'm ok with that, especially the early ones, remove neutron code etc | 05:41 |
| bmelande | +1 | 05:41 |
| yamahata | thanks, I'll push it tonight. | 05:41 |
| yamahata | Until that, feel free to add +2 and get familiar with it. | 05:42 |
| yamahata | any other issues? | 05:42 |
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| yamahata | Okay, thanks and see you next week. | 05:43 |
| s3wong | thanks! | 05:43 |
| natarajk | bye | 05:44 |
| yamahata | If we like, we can continue discussion on #tacker | 05:44 |
| yamahata | #endmeeting | 05:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 05:44 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 05:44:20 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 05:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2014/servicevm_device_manager.2014-07-15-05.01.html | 05:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2014/servicevm_device_manager.2014-07-15-05.01.txt | 05:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/servicevm_device_manager/2014/servicevm_device_manager.2014-07-15-05.01.log.html | 05:44 |
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| s3wong | yamahata: not #openstack-tacker? | 05:44 |
| yamahata | s3wong: no. #tacker. | 05:44 |
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| yamahata | s3wong: I should have prepend openstack-. I regret my choise | 05:45 |
| s3wong | yamahata: yeah :-) | 05:45 |
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| sc68cal | Hello all | 13:59 |
| aveiga | o/ | 13:59 |
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| xuhanp | hello | 14:00 |
| sc68cal | #startmeeting neutron_ipv6 | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 14:00:20 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sc68cal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_ipv6' | 14:00 |
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| basu | ipv6 | 14:02 |
| sc68cal | #info J-2 is next week | 14:02 |
| sc68cal | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 14:02 |
| sc68cal | #topic blueprints | 14:03 |
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| sc68cal | I spoke with Kyle yesterday about the dnsmasq slaac blueprint - it will be marked as superceded by the radvd blueprint | 14:04 |
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| aveiga | that leaves only the radvd RA announcement BP for J2? | 14:04 |
| aveiga | I didn't see any others | 14:04 |
| * sc68cal digs up link | 14:05 | |
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| xuhanp | sc68cal, does that mean we will need to delay the dnsmasq stateless/stateful BP for K? | 14:05 |
| xuhanp | I haven't received a lot of comments yet | 14:05 |
| aveiga | xuhanp: it has a dep on the radvd BP, right? | 14:05 |
| xuhanp | aveiga, as we discussed last time, it should not | 14:06 |
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| xuhanp | the RA can be from external of radvd | 14:06 |
| sc68cal | xuhanp: Let me check, but it should be scheduled for j-3 | 14:06 |
| xuhanp | of -> or | 14:06 |
| aveiga | xuhanp: ah, yes | 14:06 |
| xuhanp | sc68cal, thanks | 14:06 |
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| dane_leblanc | I'm still waiting for core on the multi-prefix, so don't know if that will get deferred. | 14:07 |
| sc68cal | https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-2 | 14:07 |
| sc68cal | https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-3 | 14:07 |
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| sc68cal | dane_leblanc: I think it's probably going to be deferred to K | 14:08 |
| dane_leblanc | :( | 14:09 |
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| xuhanp | sc68cal, seems like the dnsmasq one is not on the list, either. should we talk to Kyle about this? | 14:09 |
| aveiga | dane_leblanc: I think they're overlaoded on reviews for J and are focusing down on essentials | 14:09 |
| aveiga | dane_leblanc: I was told to not even submit the flaoting IPv6 BP | 14:09 |
| sc68cal | xuhanp: I'll ping Kyle about your spec today | 14:09 |
| xuhanp | sc68cal, thanks a lot | 14:10 |
| sc68cal | this is the one, correct? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102411/ | 14:10 |
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| xuhanp | sc68cal, that's correct | 14:11 |
| sc68cal | xuhanp: cool, I'll reach out to Kyle. I think we should be able to get it into J, since there was some churn over radvd vs dnsmasq earlier this cycle | 14:12 |
| xuhanp | sounds great | 14:12 |
| sc68cal | having code ready to merge will help the case - how goes progress on that front? | 14:12 |
| aveiga | xuhanp sc68cal I think the stateful bit is necessary to claim real IPv6 support for J, as well | 14:13 |
| aveiga | it's pretty integral to getting feature parity with IPv4 | 14:13 |
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| xuhanp | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106299/ | 14:13 |
| xuhanp | here is the patch for stateful dhcp. | 14:13 |
| xuhanp | still working on the stateless case. | 14:14 |
| sc68cal | aveiga: I agree | 14:14 |
| xuhanp | sc68cal, hope you got my email about the question to dnsmasq | 14:14 |
| aveiga | xuhanp: very nice, I'll dig into this later today | 14:14 |
| sc68cal | xuhanp: I did, and forwarded to aveiga ;) | 14:14 |
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| sc68cal | I'll try and take a look sometime this week | 14:15 |
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| xuhanp | thanks | 14:15 |
| aveiga | xuhanp: still catching up on my email, I was sort of AFK all last week | 14:15 |
| xuhanp | aveiga, no problem | 14:16 |
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| sc68cal | baoli: ping - are you available for the meeting? | 14:18 |
| baoli | Hi | 14:18 |
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| baoli | sorry, was tied up with something | 14:19 |
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| sc68cal | how goes unit testing for the radvd patch? | 14:19 |
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| baoli | Henry just put his unit test in the patch. | 14:20 |
| baoli | So please check it out if it's sufficient | 14:20 |
| sc68cal | ok - i'll keep an eye on the review - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102648/ | 14:21 |
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| sc68cal | #topic bugs | 14:22 |
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| sc68cal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=ipv6 | 14:22 |
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| baoli | xuhanp, does my comments make sense? | 14:23 |
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| xuhanp | baoli, I replied your comments actually | 14:23 |
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| xuhanp | can you take a look? | 14:23 |
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| baoli | xuhanp, I replied but somehow didn't click the review button. | 14:24 |
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| xuhanp | :D I will check soon | 14:25 |
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| baoli | xuhanp, thanks. Basically, the concern is that the user may enter an address from a SLAAC subnet, thinking it'll be assigned to the vm's port. But that's not going to happen. | 14:26 |
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| xuhanp | baoli, I see your concern now. | 14:27 |
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| xuhanp | maybe some error message should be prompted instead | 14:27 |
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| baoli | xuhanp, that's right | 14:28 |
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| xuhanp | baoli, will consider that in my next patch | 14:30 |
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| baoli | xuhanp, cool. thanks for taking the comments. | 14:31 |
| xuhanp | baoli, welcome | 14:31 |
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| sc68cal | #topic open discussion | 14:33 |
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| dane_leblanc | I have some questions about Tempest tests | 14:34 |
| dane_leblanc | For the API tempest tests, are there more tests in the works to test more combos of attributes? | 14:35 |
| aveiga | dane_leblanc: not yet, because most of them aren't implemented | 14:35 |
| dane_leblanc | Also, has anyone started on IPv6 scenario tests? | 14:35 |
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| sc68cal | Yes - we have scenario tests in progress by SridharG | 14:37 |
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| sc68cal | When the radvd patch lands we'll be able to do more via tempest | 14:38 |
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| dane_leblanc | sc68cal, okay, we've got a team that might be able to help out | 14:38 |
| sc68cal | dane_leblanc: ok - please reach out to SridharG to coordinate | 14:38 |
| dane_leblanc | So I'm trying to see what needs doin' | 14:38 |
| dane_leblanc | sc68cal, will do | 14:39 |
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| sc68cal | If there isn't any other business, I'll give everyone back 15 minutes | 14:43 |
| xuhanp | thanks sc68cal for hosting the meeting! | 14:44 |
| * aveiga crosses fingers for working v6 in J2 | 14:45 | |
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| sc68cal | good luck everyone, we'll talk next week! | 14:47 |
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| sc68cal | #endmeeting | 14:47 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 14:47:48 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-07-15-14.00.html | 14:47 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-07-15-14.00.txt | 14:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_ipv6/2014/neutron_ipv6.2014-07-15-14.00.log.html | 14:47 |
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| basu | hi | 14:55 |
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| n0ano | #startmeeting gantt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 15:00:52 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| n0ano | anyone here to talk about the scheduler? | 15:01 |
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| bauzas | \o | 15:01 |
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| mspreitz | o/ | 15:02 |
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| n0ano | not many admitting to being here today | 15:03 |
| bauzas | :) | 15:03 |
| n0ano | #topic forklift status | 15:03 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes ? Yathi ? | 15:03 |
| coolsvap | hello | 15:04 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: johnthetubaguy is currently having a meeting conflict, possible to delay this topic ? | 15:04 |
| bauzas | n0ano: are there other topics to discuss ? | 15:04 |
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| Yathi | Hi | 15:04 |
| n0ano | pretty much the only topic unless there's anything else anyone wants to raise? | 15:04 |
| jaypipes | o/ (sorry, was finishing reply to PaulMurray) | 15:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am lingering, but will not be very responsive | 15:05 |
| n0ano | maybe we can start on this anyway... | 15:05 |
| bauzas | sure | 15:06 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, seems like you have the most concerns about the split, care to express them? | 15:06 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: do you want me to summarize the outcome? | 15:06 |
| n0ano | bauzas, sure, go ahead | 15:06 |
| bauzas | so | 15:06 |
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| bauzas | long story short, there are some patches in review | 15:07 |
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| bauzas | one spec is still not validated https://review.openstack.org/89893 | 15:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are past the spec freeze date now, so will have to do an exception for that | 15:07 |
| bauzas | so that means we will miss the Juno target unless we got an exception (little chances tho) | 15:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I am going to try and make a list of those today | 15:08 |
| bauzas | some patches can be reviewed tho : | 15:08 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/82778 | 15:08 |
| bauzas | https://review.openstack.org/104556 | 15:08 |
| bauzas | one small and quickwin patch is here https://review.openstack.org/103503 | 15:08 |
| bauzas | the 103503 is really small and not disruptive, so I expect it to be merged soon | 15:09 |
| bauzas | once the 103503 gets merged, the only API method for Scheduler will be select_destinations() | 15:09 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: I don't see the urgency or use cases, frankly. | 15:10 |
| bauzas | the 2 above patches (82778 and 104556) aim to add a second interface for publishing stats to the scheduler | 15:10 |
| bauzas | and here comes the debate :) | 15:10 |
| jaypipes | was hoping Yathi could show me a use case that demonstrates what users of OpenStack would benefit from a split scheduler. | 15:10 |
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| bauzas | so, just to end up my summary | 15:11 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: sure | 15:11 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: yes, please do. | 15:11 |
| * PaulMurray sorry I'm late - in another meeting at same time | 15:12 | |
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| Yathi | To be crisp, I can use the scenario, we demoed in the summits at HKG and ATlanta.. - compute-volume affinity | 15:12 |
| bauzas | the goal over Juno is to define what will be the next scheduler API | 15:12 |
| Yathi | this is clearly a cross-service concern.. with nova and cinder data being used to come up with a unified placement decision | 15:12 |
| mspreitz | If by split scheduler you mean use case for only the forklift, I do not think there is one. The forklift is prep for more interesting work. Like what Yathi said. | 15:13 |
| ddutta | bauzas: gr8 idea ... have you looked at the server group extension .... would it help to review this as a potential starting point ... we pushed it in I | 15:13 |
| bauzas | mspreitz: +1 | 15:13 |
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| n0ano | mspreitz, +1 | 15:13 |
| jaypipes | Yathi: that isn't a use case. | 15:13 |
| bauzas | the goal of the split is to do the necessary prework for Gantt | 15:13 |
| jaypipes | that isn't a use case either. | 15:13 |
| bauzas | ddutta: could you please give me a pointer ? | 15:14 |
| n0ano | that has alway been the case, the split alone creates a baseline for further work | 15:14 |
| mspreitz | jaypipes: right.. | 15:14 |
| Yathi | having such cross-service concerns is best addressed using a split scheduler | 15:14 |
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| Yathi | the split scheduler will have a unified view | 15:14 |
| mspreitz | the use cases were outlined earlier in discussions of broader placement aka scheduling | 15:14 |
| bauzas | I like johnthetubaguy's idea to create a community over Gantt | 15:14 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: that further work is not a use case either. | 15:14 |
| n0ano | Yathi's example is a use case, that's a further work item | 15:14 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: if by usecase, you want to express a customer story ? | 15:14 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: bingo. | 15:15 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: So I would say - "cross-service scheduling" "unified scheduling" are all use cases | 15:15 |
| ddutta | jaypipes: here is a use case ..... say you want to place a group of VMs with a policy very close to storage blobs within a network distance of x | 15:15 |
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| jaypipes | Yathi: no, those are features. | 15:15 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ok, lemme play then :) | 15:15 |
| Yathi | ddutta: +1 | 15:15 |
| jaypipes | ddutta: ty. that approaches a use case. | 15:15 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, we have the volume example as a use case - but I haven't used it to motivate a split | 15:15 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: as a user, I want to place my volumes close to my compute resources | 15:16 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: what does "close" mean? | 15:16 |
| Yathi | yes my customer stories, that is the customer story we demoed in HKG and in ATlanta as part of the NFV talk we had.. | 15:16 |
| ddutta | another use case: place a VM closest to a group a VMs but avoid a bunch of storage nodes (coz its redhot) | 15:16 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: as an user, I want to take benefit of the datacenter proximity | 15:16 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, in our case volumes are not accessible from different AZ | 15:16 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: as an user, I want to place my VMs on bisectional network | 15:16 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: how does a user know that there is a bisectional network? | 15:17 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, as a user I want my instance to be placed in the same az as my volume | 15:17 |
| jaypipes | PaulMurray: that is eminently doable without a split scheduler. | 15:17 |
| mspreitz | who guys on the AZ stuff, I think that may be handled differently | 15:17 |
| mspreitz | Isn't the AZ already chosen by the client? | 15:17 |
| jaypipes | yup. | 15:17 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, or rather, as a user I don't want to bother with az, but I want my instances to be able to use my volumes | 15:17 |
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| ddutta | We can just document all this in a shared doc | 15:18 |
| mspreitz | s/AZ/rack/ and now we can talk | 15:18 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, I did say I didn't use it to motivate a split | 15:18 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: correct, lemme express the usecase differently | 15:18 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: As a user, I would like to ensure that my VM is scheduled in a network that has x bandwidth | 15:18 |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: cloud users don't (and shouldn't) know which rack their stuff is on. | 15:18 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: as an operator, I want to provide entreprise-grade network for golden customers | 15:18 |
| ddutta | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZOz5S9rZFYiwdCLkQM9Th9c7VKln152skO7NcKZDnUM/edit ??? | 15:18 |
| jaypipes | Yathi: that is already doable with metric. | 15:18 |
| jaypipes | metrics. | 15:18 |
| mspreitz | jaypipes: right, exactly, cloud users should not identify racks. But they should be able to say "different racks", to get better reliability | 15:19 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: that is a neutron thing and not a scheduler thing. | 15:19 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: i.e. neutron's proposed flavor framework. | 15:19 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: you don't want to complicate the logic and bring in all the concerns within Nova.. hence the motivation for a split | 15:19 |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: no they shouldn't, IMO. | 15:19 |
| ddutta | jaypipes: I think there are 2 aspects of a scheduler .... 1) figure out where to place 2) schedule | 15:19 |
| bauzas | ddutta: +1 | 15:19 |
| jaypipes | ddutta: no. | 15:19 |
| ddutta | I think the placement should be taken out | 15:19 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: first step is to decide where to place., and then complete the scheduling | 15:20 |
| jaypipes | ddutta: that may be true for a kernel process scheduler. not for a compute VM scheduler. it's all about placement. nothing else. | 15:20 |
| ddutta | if you need a bunch of info to place why put it in nova for now | 15:20 |
| * bauzas tries to follow both the chatty conversation and read jaypipes's reply on the -dev list. Hard. | 15:20 | |
| ddutta | the fact its in nova is historic | 15:20 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 15:20 |
| jaypipes | ddutta: NO. the fact that *scheduling* (i.e. run instance) is in the ova scheduler is historical. NOT placement. | 15:20 |
| ddutta | and you could always put everything in nova and talk to other services ... we have demo-ed that too :) | 15:20 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: Also look at SOlver Scheduler https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/solver-scheduler.. | 15:21 |
| ddutta | but what would that serve | 15:21 |
| jaypipes | Yathi: no use cases there either. sorry :( | 15:21 |
| ddutta | I gave you 2 use cases :) | 15:21 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, of course, run_instance is not done through scheduler now | 15:21 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: saw my email about people concerned ? I do accept these as non-usecases indeed | 15:21 |
| jaypipes | we need to stop thinking about the nova scheduler as a kernel thread/process scheduler. | 15:21 |
| Yathi | Jaypipes: I gave you customer use cases earlier.. and so did ddutta.. now I am moving to the motivation for a split | 15:21 |
| jaypipes | PaulMurray: right, which is why I said that was historical. | 15:21 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I'm seeing the scheduler as the first piece of a SLA engine | 15:22 |
| ddutta | bauzas: +1 | 15:22 |
| jaypipes | we need to stop thinking about the nova scheduler as a kernel thread/process scheduler. | 15:22 |
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| jaypipes | we need to stop thinking about the nova scheduler as a kernel thread/process scheduler. | 15:22 |
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| Yathi | jaypipes: So regarding solver scheduler.. imagine the difficultly we are having convincing the community to have such smart scheduling aspects within Nova | 15:22 |
| ddutta | agree | 15:22 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: ie the scheduler is responsible for handling a contract in between the user (or operator thru a flavor/hint/whatever) and the system | 15:22 |
| jaypipes | Yathi: yes, there is difficulty there because it doesn't meet many use cases. | 15:22 |
| mspreitz | jaypipes: what do you mean by "we need to stop thinking about the nova scheduler as a kernel thread/process scheduler" ? | 15:22 |
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| jaypipes | it's a mostly-academic exercise. | 15:23 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: I guess you know the pets vs. cattle story ? | 15:23 |
| Yathi | A split scheduler. .meant for doing placement as a service. will hopefully be the best place for newer placement decision logics | 15:23 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: of course. | 15:23 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: so if I want to have pets? | 15:23 |
| ddutta | jaypipes: I think there are quite a few use cases if you want to use Openstack for interesting applications like NFV .... | 15:23 |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: everyone seems to think of the Nova scheduler in terms of something that is divvying out time slices to a variety of callers (fair scheduler, smart solver, etc). that isn't what Nova scheduler is about. | 15:24 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: screw pets? | 15:24 |
| jaypipes | :) | 15:24 |
| bauzas | :D | 15:24 |
| * bauzas noting it... | 15:24 | |
| n0ano | jaypipes, I haven't heard about time slices, more about best placement taking into account different metrics | 15:24 |
| jaypipes | and NFV, as I mentioned on the ML, have done a lousy job in specifying/describing actual use cases | 15:24 |
| mspreitz | jaypipes: I did not notice such a confusion | 15:24 |
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| mspreitz | Even for cattle, we want to say stuff about the herd and how it shoud be distributed. | 15:25 |
| jaypipes | beyond stuff that really means "whhhaaaah, my telco IT department doesn't want to rearchitect our giant monolithic NFV component to use a cloud environment! Can't the cloud infra do everything for me? Whaaah." | 15:25 |
| jaypipes | sorry for being frank, | 15:25 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: you're welcome to express your feelings tomorrow in #openstack-meeting-alt ;) | 15:26 |
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| ddutta | jaypipes: Its not just 1 telco use case. When we wanted to speed hadoop up, we needed the affinity use cases .... | 15:26 |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: the defining characteristic of cattle VMs is that they don't matter. any other VM can take their place, and failure of the VM is expected and accounted for. | 15:26 |
| mspreitz | jaypipes: frank is good, but I'm not here because of crying by a telco IT department | 15:26 |
| mspreitz | jaypipes: exactly, pets vs cattle is about main of content, we are talking now about placement | 15:26 |
| mspreitz | s/main/maintenance/ | 15:27 |
| ddutta | jaypipes: for a bunch of the use cases, we felt placement across services is imp and currently everything runs in nova and we need to make calls to network and storage | 15:27 |
| jaypipes | ddutta: I'd rather see the nova scheduler be able to take inputs from things like neutron that would be usable in placement decisions, than break nova scheduler out of nova. | 15:27 |
| bauzas | by saying the pets metaphor, I was expressing an usecase :) | 15:27 |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: I know you're not. sorry for making it seem that way, apologies. | 15:27 |
| bauzas | "Openstack, please leave me have pets" | 15:28 |
| ddutta | jaypipes: clearly thats another way to do it. In fact Yathi/I have demo-ed that route too ... we used network distances and storage affinity in a demo 2 summits ago | 15:28 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, I thinkwe all want the scheduler to take inputs from multiple services, we just think that will be easier if the scheduler is a separte project | 15:28 |
| bauzas | n0ano: violent agreement from me | 15:28 |
| ddutta | jaypipes: we are fine with that too but it looks messy beyond a point | 15:28 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: and I believe the interfaces for taking those inputs need to be cleaned up and exposed properly before a split is reasonable | 15:28 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: this was from our session in HongKong: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1BgK1q7gl5nkKWy3zLkP1t_SNmjl6nh66S0jHdP0-zbY/edit?pli=1 | 15:29 |
| ddutta | jaypipes: but yes we "could" do it that way .... question is "should" we? | 15:29 |
| mspreitz | I really think pets vs. cattle is beside the point. Even for cattle you want to say stuff like "keep the cattle spread out", "put each cow near a watering hole", ... | 15:29 |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: sure, no real disagreement from me on that. | 15:29 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, the 3 patches bauzas talked about are the attempt to clean up the interfaces | 15:29 |
| bauzas | n0ano: thanks | 15:30 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: yeah, but it's the resource tracking piece that is missing. | 15:30 |
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| jaypipes | and having the scheduler actually be responsible for the claims of resources. | 15:30 |
| jaypipes | we can paper over that problem by putting interfaces into the scheduler to update resources, but that's not solving the main problem of the scheduler not owning and distributing the claims themselves. | 15:31 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: if we consider that update_resource_stats is a viable interface, the thing of putting the ResourceTracker in Gantt or not won't change that interface | 15:31 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, we're looking at the RT part, if we decide that is a critical piece that needs to be done first we can add it, that will definitely miss Juno | 15:31 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: see above, I don't think it's a viable interface. | 15:31 |
| ddutta | Could we list down use cases here ... for Jaypipes .... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZOz5S9rZFYiwdCLkQM9Th9c7VKln152skO7NcKZDnUM/edit?userstoinvite=ybudupi@gmail.com#heading=h.d4hunb4yodwi | 15:31 |
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| bauzas | ddutta: I love etherpads :) | 15:31 |
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| ddutta | this could be a very productive exercise .... we list down use cases and see how we could implement it within the current scheduler | 15:31 |
| jaypipes | ddutta: ++ | 15:32 |
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| ddutta | ok https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases | 15:32 |
| ddutta | then here | 15:32 |
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| bauzas | ddutta: thanks | 15:32 |
| jaypipes | ddutta: and annotate use cases that could be satisfied with small changes to interfaces inside Nova scheduler (without breaking it out) | 15:32 |
| jaypipes | ddutta: and annotate use cases that absolutely cannot be solved without Gantt. | 15:32 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: can't see above where you say it's not viable :) | 15:32 |
| ddutta | jaypipes: sure | 15:32 |
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| jaypipes | and please remember that "implement solver scheduler" is not a use case :) | 15:33 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, shall we do the same for scheduler owning claims | 15:33 |
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| Yathi | jaypipes: but you do realize that nothing is impossible.. you can probably have everything within Nova | 15:33 |
| PaulMurray | jaypipes, annotate things that can't be done with/without scheduler owning claims | 15:33 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: not viable because the scheduler doesn't own the claim (the compute worker still does, AFAICT from your patches)? | 15:33 |
| jaypipes | Yathi: eh, exactly ;) | 15:33 |
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| n0ano | Yathi, +1 (but clarity is obvious isolation is still good) | 15:34 |
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| Yathi | but what makes best sense for a separation of concern with Gantt is what we need to figure out | 15:34 |
| n0ano | s/is/and | 15:34 |
| jaypipes | PaulMurray: sure, although in that case, the claim stuff is about removing locks and allowing the scheduler to have race-free operations. | 15:34 |
| bauzas | I'm just feeling we're redoing the wheel from the Icehouse and Juno summits... :) | 15:34 |
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| jaypipes | PaulMurray: so, less of ause case, more of an implementation detail | 15:34 |
| bauzas | ie. "do we need an external scheduler?" | 15:35 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: sorry :( | 15:35 |
| bauzas | I was thinking this question was answered | 15:35 |
| bauzas | nah, lemme be more precise | 15:35 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I mean, splitting the current scheduler is not that perfect, but it was agreed to do refactoring stuff first and provide something better after | 15:36 |
| ddutta | I think we could build any scheduler use case with the current Nova scheduler + a bunch of interactions with NEutron/Cinder/Swift. I think the question we are asking is what would we lose if its a separate piece .... | 15:36 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: so we are mostly disagreeing on the level of refactoring required before a split. | 15:37 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: the thing is, I won't be able to join the mid-cycle meetup where this kind of question needs to be debated | 15:37 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: yes? | 15:37 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: yey, that's why we ran a session over here in ATL | 15:37 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: in order to tackle the level of changes | 15:37 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: understood. there's only so many places one can be at any given time, though ;) | 15:38 |
| bauzas | as johnthetubaguy said, I just don't want to throw the baby with the water :) | 15:38 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: yeah, I know we're all humans, so it's impossible to be at all sessions | 15:38 |
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| n0ano | I still think, from a high level, cleaning up the library, DB and RT are the 3 refactorings that need to be done and then a split is reasonable. | 15:38 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: what is the baby, though? is the baby "a separate scheduler service", or is the baby "our users will be able to do X"? if the former, I don't really see the problem. | 15:39 |
| jaypipes | n0ano: sure, ++ | 15:39 |
| bauzas | n0ano: the debate here is that jaypipes is feeling that refactoring the RT will impact the library | 15:40 |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: good question | 15:40 |
| n0ano | well, the lib spec is approved patches waiting, we need to get the DB spec approved and we need to do the RT spec/patches | 15:40 |
| ddutta | also could we spend some cycles next meeting to discuss the use cases ... we can all work on it https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases ..... this exercise has not been done from what I remember | 15:41 |
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| ddutta | lets s=do it | 15:41 |
| n0ano | if the RT impacts the lib that's just part of the work, I don't see a problem. | 15:41 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: the baby is maybe the violent agreement we had from the community to split out the scheduler | 15:41 |
| n0ano | ddutta, +1, everyone look at the etherpad this week, I don't want to try to do that one the fly right now | 15:42 |
| mspreitz | I want users to be able to express cross-service placement constraints and have a solution found even if it can only be found by considering both kinds of resources in one unified placement problem. | 15:42 |
| bauzas | ddutta: could you please reply to the -dev thread and give us this link in there ? | 15:42 |
| ddutta | bauzas: thanks | 15:42 |
| bauzas | ddutta: people who weren't able to attend this meeting can still have good usecases | 15:42 |
| ddutta | will do | 15:42 |
| n0ano | #action update the use case etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases | 15:42 |
| Yathi | jaypipes, as another long term use case: I need to figure out the best placement both for my VM and for the Volume that it will be attached to.. | 15:42 |
| bauzas | ddutta: cool thanks | 15:42 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: who's update ? :D | 15:42 |
| Yathi | this combined scheduling.. is something would be possible only by a split scheduler that unifies everything | 15:42 |
| Yathi | and as a separate service | 15:43 |
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| n0ano | #action all update the use case etherpad at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases | 15:43 |
| bauzas | again, as said, I'm feeling the split as something already agreed and validated (aka. "the baby") | 15:43 |
| * n0ano needs to learn how to use meetbot | 15:43 | |
| mspreitz | maybe not "the baby", but an agreed step along the way | 15:44 |
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| jaypipes | Yathi: so, let me reword your use case above... | 15:44 |
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| jaypipes | Yathi: "As a cloud user, I want my VM placed somewhere where volume XYZ is 'near'" | 15:45 |
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| mspreitz | jaypipes: no, it's more like "give me a VM and a volume near each other" | 15:45 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: wanna create a Scrum backlog, eh ? ;) | 15:45 |
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| jaypipes | Yathi: if you word your use case like above, you realize that it is simply describing another input to the scheduler's decision about a *VM* placement, and not where to place a volume. | 15:45 |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: you can't do both at once. Just pick a location for a volume (or use the location of an existing volume), and then schedule the VM to be near it. | 15:46 |
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| jaypipes | mspreitz: there's no point overcomplicating the code, IMO. | 15:46 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: thanks..there are two of them.. one is the direct volume affinity.. which we demoed in HKG summit already.. | 15:46 |
| mspreitz | jaypipes: you can't do both today, but we hope you can later | 15:46 |
| * bauzas wishes good chance to johnthetubaguy for scrolling back the discussion... | 15:46 | |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: I'm saying there's no point doing both. | 15:46 |
| Yathi | but the second one is this: "As a cloud user..I want my VM and Volume placed close to each other | 15:46 |
| jaypipes | mspreitz: just pick a place for the volume, and make the location of the volume an input to the VM placement decision. | 15:47 |
| jgriffith | Yathi: I'm curious why you'd want the complexity of both? | 15:47 |
| jaypipes | Yathi: that is not valid, IMO. :) | 15:47 |
| bauzas | so, because there is one week in between this meeting and the next one, could we consider what n0ano said and see if my proposals are worth it ? | 15:47 |
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| ddutta | :) | 15:47 |
| bauzas | I'm just trying to get a conclusion from that lovely discussion :) | 15:47 |
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| mspreitz | jaypipes: as long as you have plenty of spare capacity in all your individual containers, serial placement will work. But individual containers can run low on spare capacity | 15:48 |
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| ddutta | folks, need to drop off a little early but would be filling up https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SchedulerUseCases .... sent to the dev list by replying to a bunch of emails on scheduler :) | 15:48 |
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| n0ano | bauzas, I think your current specs are fine, the only issue is I guess we need to create one for the RT refactoring | 15:48 |
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| bauzas | ddutta: cool thanks | 15:49 |
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| jaypipes | mspreitz: not entirely sure I follow you, but put your thoughts in that eherpad and we can go from there? | 15:49 |
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| mspreitz | jaypipes: sure | 15:50 |
| * jaypipes needs to leave for airport shortly :( | 15:50 | |
| bauzas | n0ano: as said, jaypipes's thoughts were about the fact we pass a JSON blob :) | 15:50 |
| bauzas | n0ano: so he was giving a -1 | 15:50 |
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| bauzas | n0ano: and the rest is history | 15:50 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: I actually support 95% of your patches and patch content. | 15:50 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: will do thorough reviews later today on plane. | 15:50 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: quoted for posterity | 15:50 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: it's just the end timing on a split that I disagree on. | 15:51 |
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| jaypipes | or rather, the urgency of a split. | 15:51 |
| n0ano | bauzas, that's one of those `devil in the details', the basic idea is good, need to agree on the implementation | 15:51 |
| jaypipes | anyways... | 15:51 |
| Yathi | great discussion.. I hope the etherpad will get more "use cases" and help the case for Gantt | 15:51 |
| jaypipes | ++ | 15:51 |
| bauzas | Yathi: +1 | 15:51 |
| jaypipes | thx guys, and sorry to offend anyone with my brash style! | 15:51 |
| * jaypipes goes to herd his cattle. | 15:51 | |
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| bauzas | jaypipes: no worries, your feedback is greatly appreciated:) | 15:51 |
| n0ano | that's ok, we save payback for when we meet in person :-) | 15:51 |
| jaypipes | hehe :) I'll be in Beaverton. | 15:52 |
| n0ano | bauzas, +2 | 15:52 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: thanks for letting us all know what a use case is :) | 15:52 |
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| bauzas | s/know/remember :p | 15:52 |
| n0ano | jaypipes, so will I (be afraid, be very afraid :-) | 15:52 |
| Yathi | bauzas: +1 :) | 15:52 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 15:52 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: I won't be in Beaverton :( | 15:52 |
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| bauzas | anyway | 15:52 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: I know,, that sucks :( | 15:52 |
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| bauzas | yey, I so much heard about the oregon beers... | 15:53 |
| jaypipes | PaulMurray, mspreitz, Yathi: will you be in Beaverton? | 15:53 |
| mspreitz | I will not be in Beaverton, unfortunately | 15:53 |
| n0ano | bauzas, the Colorado beers are better | 15:53 |
| mspreitz | But I think others can carry the flag | 15:53 |
| jaypipes | cool. | 15:53 |
| Yathi | jaypipes: I am looking into my calendar.. will know soon | 15:53 |
| jaypipes | k | 15:53 |
| Yathi | will try though | 15:53 |
| jaypipes | OK guys, I've got to pack for the flight... ciao! | 15:53 |
| n0ano | winding down, let's close a little early and get some work done | 15:54 |
| bauzas | n0ano: 5 mins for opens ? | 15:54 |
| n0ano | #topic opens | 15:54 |
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| n0ano | Any? | 15:54 |
| bauzas | ... | 15:54 |
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| bauzas | (wind in the trees) | 15:55 |
| n0ano | guess not, tnx everyone | 15:55 |
| bauzas | thanks n0ano :) | 15:55 |
| mspreitz | thanks | 15:55 |
| n0ano | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 15:55:31 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gantt/2014/gantt.2014-07-15-15.00.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gantt/2014/gantt.2014-07-15-15.00.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gantt/2014/gantt.2014-07-15-15.00.log.html | 15:55 |
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| primeministerp | startmeeting #hyper-v | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | hey all | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | sorry was running late | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | bunch of folks are travelling this week | 16:09 |
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| ociuhandu_ | hi all | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu_: hey tavi | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu_: i got cought up too | 16:10 |
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| primeministerp | ociuhandu_: was just going to give some updates on some bits we're working on | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | cinder test automation | 16:10 |
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| primeministerp | currently we're in the process of automating our test workload | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | more to come on that as we progress | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | additionally looking at more compute workload in new dc infra | 16:11 |
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| primeministerp | we're still waiting on some key hw to get put into place | 16:12 |
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| primeministerp | that's all I have until other get back | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:13 |
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| boris-42 | #startmeeting rally | 17:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 17:03:15 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is boris-42. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: rally)" | 17:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 17:03 |
| boris-42 | coolsvap hi | 17:03 |
| boris-42 | rediskin hi | 17:03 |
| coolsvap | hello | 17:03 |
| boris-42 | olkonami hi | 17:03 |
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| olkonami | hi | 17:03 |
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| boris-42 | so let's start=) | 17:05 |
| boris-42 | #topic OSprofiler Integration | 17:05 |
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| boris-42 | 1) So HMAC keys shouldn't be used, we should use PKI approach | 17:06 |
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| boris-42 | This will be covered by DuncanT- | 17:06 |
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| boris-42 | k4n0 hi | 17:06 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, Hi, sorry for being late | 17:06 |
| DuncanT- | Hopefully I'll have a patch tomorrow | 17:07 |
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| boris-42 | 2) we should be able to support list of secret keys (that allows us to do rolling upgrade of services, with downtime) | 17:07 |
| boris-42 | DuncanT- thanks | 17:07 |
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| boris-42 | that will be covered by me (I am going to make it today/tomorrow) | 17:07 |
| boris-42 | Patch that allows Ceilometer to collect profiling data from Keystone is almost merged | 17:07 |
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| boris-42 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/103420/ | 17:08 |
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| boris-42 | So after this KPI stuff will be changed | 17:08 |
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| boris-42 | I will update one more time patches in Glance / Kyestone / Cinder | 17:08 |
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| boris-42 | so I hope they will be merged in Juno | 17:09 |
| oanufriev | hi. sorry | 17:09 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev hi there | 17:09 |
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| boris-42 | So let's move to next topic | 17:09 |
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| boris-42 | if no questions? | 17:09 |
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| boris-42 | #topic refactoring periodic runner (new name RPS) | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "refactoring periodic runner (new name RPS) (Meeting topic: rally)" | 17:10 | |
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| boris-42 | oanufriev could you share details about your work | 17:10 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev to others | 17:10 |
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| oanufriev | whell. there is the patch on review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102363/ | 17:10 |
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| boris-42 | oanufriev does it work?) | 17:11 |
| oanufriev | yes. i have results on 20000 times 100 rps dummy runner | 17:11 |
| oanufriev | without swapping and lugs | 17:12 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev what is the name of task? | 17:12 |
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| boris-42 | http://logs.openstack.org/63/102363/14/check/check-rally-dsvm-rally/603de6c/rally-plot/results.html.gz | 17:12 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev ^ | 17:12 |
| boris-42 | oh I found it=) | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev hmmm | 17:13 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev why there is one or couple of iterstation that works for 20 seconds?? | 17:13 |
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| boris-42 | oanufriev still here?) | 17:15 |
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| boris-42 | okay moving to next topic | 17:15 |
| boris-42 | we will discuss this in rally chat | 17:16 |
| boris-42 | #topic Functional testing | 17:16 |
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| boris-42 | check-rally-dsvm-cli now works | 17:17 |
| boris-42 | http://logs.openstack.org/99/102899/22/check/check-rally-dsvm-cli/acc5502/ | 17:17 |
| boris-42 | and you can take a look at results.html.gz | 17:17 |
| boris-42 | http://logs.openstack.org/99/102899/22/check/check-rally-dsvm-cli/acc5502/results.html.gz | 17:17 |
| boris-42 | that show that everything passed | 17:17 |
| boris-42 | woot | 17:17 |
| boris-42 | =) | 17:17 |
| k4n0 | nice :) | 17:17 |
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| boris-42 | k4n0 so when you finish your work on --josn | 17:18 |
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| boris-42 | k4n0 we will be able to test whole CLI | 17:18 |
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| boris-42 | k4n0 in gates on every patch | 17:18 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, yes, will be done early morning tomorrow | 17:18 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, or even tonite | 17:18 |
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| boris-42 | #topic unit tests | 17:18 |
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| oanufriev | sorry again | 17:19 |
| boris-42 | coolsvap could you share that?) | 17:19 |
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| boris-42 | coolsvap e.g. what is the progress and so on | 17:19 |
| coolsvap | boris-42, sure | 17:19 |
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| coolsvap | I have been working on it for some days now, got 8 patches of which 6 are merged | 17:20 |
| coolsvap | the coverage has increased by 1-2% in that | 17:20 |
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| coolsvap | also reviewing patches and would recommend everyone to add unit tests in the patch itself | 17:21 |
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| coolsvap | boris-42, thats all from my side | 17:22 |
| boris-42 | coolsvap ok great and nice work | 17:23 |
| boris-42 | coolsvap btw you can review not only unit tests of patches | 17:23 |
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| boris-42 | coolsvap but whole patch, that will help a lot core team | 17:23 |
| boris-42 | #topic Incubation Request | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Incubation Request (Meeting topic: rally)" | 17:23 | |
| boris-42 | Okay guys I think it's time to put Incubation Request | 17:23 |
| boris-42 | so during these days I am going to fill all documents that are required by this | 17:24 |
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| boris-42 | And as well we should have official PTL | 17:24 |
| boris-42 | so we should make PTL election | 17:24 |
| boris-42 | so don't miss email in mailing list | 17:24 |
| boris-42 | =) | 17:24 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, do we need elections :) | 17:24 |
| boris-42 | k4n0 coolsvap harlowja marcoemorais ^ | 17:24 |
| boris-42 | k4n0 yep we need=) | 17:25 |
| harlowja | hmmm | 17:25 |
| boris-42 | there is no formal PTL in rally lol=) | 17:25 |
| harlowja | dear leader boris-42 | 17:25 |
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| harlowja | *not to be confused with deal leader kim-jong-il | 17:25 |
| boris-42 | harlowja lol | 17:25 |
| k4n0 | harlowja, "dear leader" haha | 17:25 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, are we missing anything critical for incubations? | 17:26 |
| boris-42 | k4n0 I don't think so | 17:26 |
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| boris-42 | k4n0 we have community , a lot of cores | 17:26 |
| boris-42 | k4n0 we have functional gates and as well not so bad coverage by unit test =) | 17:27 |
| harlowja | is dear leader boris-42 sick? | 17:27 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, sounds good | 17:27 |
| boris-42 | harlowja lol=) | 17:27 |
| boris-42 | k4n0 so I'll fill incubation template and we will see if something is missing=) | 17:27 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, sure | 17:27 |
| coolsvap | boris-42, :) | 17:28 |
| boris-42 | #topic free discussion | 17:28 |
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| boris-42 | so guys do you have any topics that you wanna speak about | 17:29 |
| boris-42 | ?) | 17:29 |
| oanufriev | my firefox dies on http://logs.openstack.org/63/102363/14/check/check-rally-dsvm-rally/603de6c/rally-plot/results.html.gz | 17:29 |
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| oanufriev | when i try to check Dummy.dummy #1 | 17:29 |
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| harlowja | boris-42 likes to kill browsers | 17:30 |
| boris-42 | harlowja serial morder =) | 17:30 |
| harlowja | def | 17:30 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev heh open it in chrome | 17:30 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev at that scale it works only in chrome | 17:30 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev or just open text results | 17:30 |
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| oanufriev | <boris-42> oanufriev why there is one or couple of iterstation that works for 20 seconds?? 20 seconds == 20000ms. and we have 20000 iterations.... may be some misstake presents& | 17:31 |
| oanufriev | ? | 17:31 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev http://logs.openstack.org/63/102363/14/check/check-rally-dsvm-rally/603de6c/rally-plot/results.json.gz | 17:31 |
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| boris-42 | oanufriev nope | 17:31 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev if you take a look at graph you'll see | 17:31 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev oh sorry | 17:33 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev my bad | 17:33 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev it's 0.1 sec | 17:33 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev instead of 0.01 | 17:33 |
| boris-42 | Btw guys I forgot to say | 17:34 |
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| boris-42 | #topic Scalability of Rally | 17:34 |
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| boris-42 | There are couple of changes related to scalability of rally | 17:34 |
| boris-42 | one of them is already merged | 17:34 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, the workers patch? | 17:35 |
| boris-42 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/104518/ | 17:35 |
| boris-42 | ^ nope this one that allows async to deal with results | 17:35 |
| boris-42 | next one will be about chunking data (and storing separated chunks) | 17:35 |
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| boris-42 | e.g. chunk shouldn't have more then 100k iterations | 17:35 |
| boris-42 | or some configurable option | 17:35 |
| boris-42 | and there is patch | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106031/ | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | on review ^ | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | that reduces amount of points on graphs | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | that allows us to avoid killing everybody browsers=) | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | if there is too many points=) | 17:36 |
| boris-42 | any questions about scalability? | 17:37 |
| boris-42 | #topic free discussion | 17:38 |
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| boris-42 | Okay guys anything that you would like to discuss ? | 17:38 |
| k4n0 | boris-42, nothing from my side | 17:38 |
| boris-42 | coolsvap harlowja k4n0 oanufriev olkonami ? | 17:38 |
| boris-42 | rediskin ? | 17:38 |
| harlowja | ummm | 17:38 |
| harlowja | boris-42 when can that music thing be ready? | 17:38 |
| * harlowja needs to listen to ma tunes | 17:39 | |
| harlowja | openstack tunes | 17:39 |
| boris-42 | harlowja for http://boris-42.github.io/profiler/ ?) | 17:39 |
| harlowja | ya | 17:39 |
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| boris-42 | harlowja I need to find some lib for playing music lol) | 17:39 |
| boris-42 | http://kolber.github.io/audiojs/ | 17:39 |
| boris-42 | ^ seems like ready=) | 17:39 |
| coolsvap | nothing from my side | 17:40 |
| harlowja | boris-42 niceee | 17:40 |
| harlowja | boris-42 so u need to integrate that into osprofiler | 17:40 |
| harlowja | lol | 17:40 |
| boris-42 | harlowja yep we can have for example 100 tons | 17:40 |
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| boris-42 | tones* | 17:40 |
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| harlowja | ya, make 10000ms things use the slow tone, and such | 17:40 |
| boris-42 | yep yep | 17:41 |
| harlowja | boris-42 for those that are visually impaired that will help them | 17:41 |
| harlowja | useability !! | 17:41 |
| harlowja | lol | 17:41 |
| boris-42 | =) | 17:41 |
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| harlowja | don't be discrimatatory | 17:41 |
| harlowja | ha | 17:41 |
| harlowja | *discriminatory | 17:41 |
| boris-42 | okay I want go and do something=) | 17:42 |
| boris-42 | so let's finish this meeting | 17:42 |
| boris-42 | if somebody has any questions ping in rally | 17:42 |
| boris-42 | #endmeeting | 17:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 17:42:24 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2014/rally.2014-07-15-17.03.html | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2014/rally.2014-07-15-17.03.txt | 17:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2014/rally.2014-07-15-17.03.log.html | 17:42 |
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| stevemar | keystone time! | 18:00 |
| bknudson | hi | 18:00 |
| morganfainberg | awwww yeah | 18:00 |
| morganfainberg | o/ | 18:00 |
| henrynash | wheeeee | 18:00 |
| dolphm | oh meetings | 18:00 |
| bknudson | yeehaw | 18:00 |
| bknudson | howdy | 18:00 |
| bknudson | I've got an accent now | 18:01 |
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| dolphm | ayoung, bknudson, dstanek, jamielennox, morganfainberg, stevemar, gyee, henrynash, topol, marekd, lbragstad, joesavak, shardy, fabiog, fmarco76, nkinder, lloydm, shrekuma, ksavich: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:01 |
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| lbragstad | hi | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | busy buys schedule | 18:01 |
| dolphm | bknudson: goo't'hear | 18:01 |
| stevemar | bknudson spent too much time in SAT | 18:01 |
| morganfainberg | buys=busy | 18:01 |
| dstanek | o/ | 18:01 |
| dolphm | #startmeeting keystone | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 18:01:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dolphm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
| dolphm | so this agenda is super long | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:02 |
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| dolphm | really, quick off agenda: | 18:02 |
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| raildo | hi | 18:02 |
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| dolphm | #topic Juno milestone 2 | 18:02 |
| dolphm | is next week | 18:02 |
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| morganfainberg | the last thing i snuck on there can be punted to -keystone if needed post meeting | 18:02 |
| dolphm | lbragstad needs a ton of code review attention | 18:02 |
| dolphm | https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/juno-2 | 18:02 |
| lbragstad | api validation! | 18:02 |
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| dolphm | and i threw the GET /v3/catalog stuff up yesterday - need an API review and implementation is ready as well https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/get-catalog | 18:03 |
| dolphm | so, moving on... | 18:03 |
| dolphm | more process stuff! | 18:03 |
| topol | o/ | 18:03 |
| dolphm | #topic Spec Proposal Deadline and Spec Approval Deadline | 18:03 |
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| dolphm | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SpecProposalDeadline | 18:03 |
| dolphm | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/SpecApprovalDeadline | 18:03 |
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| dolphm | be aware that we'll be putting these into affect for j3 | 18:04 |
| ayoung | O/ | 18:04 |
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| dolphm | i'm not 100% on dates, but IIRC, if you want to land a blueprint in j3, you'll need a the -spec by the end of j2 (?) | 18:05 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++ | 18:05 |
| topol | dolphm, why are both needed? | 18:05 |
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| dolphm | we've got a load of approved specs already | 18:05 |
| dolphm | topol: mostly to spread the review load | 18:05 |
| topol | dolphm, K | 18:05 |
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| bknudson | at some point we have to review code and not specs | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:05 |
| topol | bknudson ++++ | 18:05 |
| bknudson | and also have to be working on fixing things rather than adding new features | 18:06 |
| dolphm | ++ | 18:06 |
| topol | bknudson on a roll | 18:06 |
| dolphm | #topic What we did decide WRT format of the specification documents | 18:06 |
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| bknudson | gathering +s | 18:06 |
| dolphm | so, i think we need to rollback the "stop here" change :( | 18:06 |
| stevemar | bank the +'s bknudson | 18:06 |
| topol | dolphm, why | 18:06 |
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| bknudson | I'm fine with the stop here change. | 18:07 |
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| bknudson | but I also thought we discussed putting them in "next" rather than "juno" | 18:07 |
| dolphm | bknudson: after going through the motions as a spec writer, i found the whole thing overly complicated | 18:07 |
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| topol | dolphm, which part? | 18:07 |
| dolphm | and the diffs in gerrit were hard to follow - it ended up as a delete in next/ and an add in juno/ | 18:08 |
| topol | dolphm, that makes sense | 18:08 |
| dolphm | topol: proposing a problem description to next/ | 18:08 |
| morganfainberg | ah thats right next *spaced on that* | 18:08 |
| dolphm | and then moving it | 18:08 |
| topol | dolphm, if its ahrd for you to follow some of us will never make it home | 18:08 |
| dolphm | topol: ++ | 18:08 |
| bknudson | we could have the proposal filled in for next and then a separate move to juno | 18:09 |
| dolphm | bknudson: that's just more process :( | 18:09 |
| bknudson | I wouldn't have a problem having filled-in specs in next | 18:09 |
| topol | dolphm +++. Less process would be good here | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | i want a clicky interface that targets a spec to juno /soapbox | 18:09 |
| bknudson | we should define the reqs for the process and make one that works | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | not a git commit :P | 18:09 |
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| dolphm | maybe we could do it with votes? termie's solution was to always start with a -2 until the author had demonstrated a clear reason to need the proposed change. | 18:09 |
| morganfainberg | if we have backlog -> release process/paperwork. | 18:10 |
| jamielennox | if you start with a -2 no one will look at it | 18:10 |
| topol | dolphm, ugggh | 18:10 |
| bknudson | do we want a monster page of gerrit reviews in -specs? | 18:10 |
| topol | jamielennox I agree | 18:10 |
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| dolphm | there are downsides to that, both for author experience and reviewer experience | 18:10 |
| bknudson | seems like we'd want to get them accepted | 18:10 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: ++ | 18:10 |
| topol | plus dolphm started his thought with termie's solution :-) | 18:10 |
| dstanek | haha | 18:11 |
| morganfainberg | ML topic? if there is general support, file the spec? | 18:11 |
| topol | I got in my car and pulled away when I saw that | 18:11 |
| dolphm | in the short term, i'll propose a revert to the "stop here" language, and we can talk about an alternative path forward from there? | 18:11 |
| henrynash | I have to say that I personally don’t mind the “slightly shorter version” we came up with... | 18:11 |
| topol | dolphm sounds good | 18:11 |
| stevemar | i don't mind a long list of specs in gerrit | 18:11 |
| topol | henrynash I liked it too | 18:12 |
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| bknudson | since the reviews aren't going to time out and I wouldn't expect rebase issues then I guess it's not an issue to have reviews in gerrit | 18:12 |
| ayoung | ++ | 18:12 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, topol, i wrote up a spec (a simple one) last night, the shortend version helped | 18:12 |
| topol | what if the short version had a link at the end to point to post implementation design details? | 18:12 |
| dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/107133 | 18:12 |
| dolphm | proposal to revert language ^ | 18:12 |
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| lbragstad | so we're still excluding some of the topics however? | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, +2 | 18:13 |
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| dolphm | lbragstad: yes | 18:13 |
| morganfainberg | lbragstad, yeah, we're just reverting the "STOP HERE" part | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | ok | 18:13 |
| lbragstad | cool | 18:13 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: the ones still in the template are ++ | 18:13 |
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| topol | so we get the benefit of the short version and a pointer if you want more details | 18:13 |
| dolphm | #topic Dropping the milestone-2 deadline for API impacting blueprints | 18:13 |
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| bknudson | this works for me | 18:14 |
| dolphm | so i sent an email to the list about this yesterday: | 18:14 |
| dolphm | #link http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg29415.html | 18:14 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, i am in support of this. as long as we are open to re-evaluate at the summit and see how it went | 18:14 |
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| morganfainberg | i expect no issues, but worth keeping an open mind on it | 18:15 |
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| topol | dolphm, your arguments seemed a little specious :-) | 18:15 |
| dolphm | is anyone *opposed* to dropping this deadline, and *wants* to keep it? (and is willing to present a defense for it?) | 18:15 |
| topol | I am ok with dropping it | 18:15 |
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| topol | But Im not sure I bought all of your justifiaction | 18:15 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, I like overly restrictive, draconian deadlines that are immutable. can we make it juno-1 instead? :P | 18:15 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: =) | 18:15 |
| ayoung | I like dropping the K3 deadline. We do something in Keystone, no one is going to use it for at least two releases anyway | 18:15 |
| dolphm | topol: you're welcome to make another argument in favor of dropping it, i just wanted to share my perspective on it :P | 18:16 |
| dolphm | ayoung: K3? milestone 2? | 18:16 |
| ayoung | J3, K3 .... | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | lol k3, wow, future looking there ;) | 18:16 |
| ayoung | they are right next to each other on the keyboard | 18:16 |
| jamielennox | ayoung: ++, i've never seen anyone really use anything we add to keystone in that last cycle | 18:16 |
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| raildo | dolphm: I wanted to include hierarchical multitenancy https://review.openstack.org/#/c/107133/ still in Juno, a lot of thing has already implemented. | 18:16 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, reality, might be more accurate than just a typo in some cases. | 18:17 |
| topol | I think just that things are more stable and less changes to keep track of and we feel we can relax it a little | 18:17 |
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| morganfainberg | raildo, i don't think it is unreasonable. | 18:17 |
| stevemar | i think it's very needed this release, we got so bogged down with specs | 18:17 |
| dolphm | alright, if no one is opposed, let's call it a thing of the past right now. that means Identity API v3.3 will be considered *stable* when we cut proposed/juno | 18:17 |
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| ayoung | ++ | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | topol, and we will re-evaluate at the summit | 18:17 |
| ayoung | want an official vote? | 18:17 |
| topol | wait | 18:17 |
| bknudson | are there changes to core api proposed? | 18:17 |
| morganfainberg | topol, worst case is K we move back to milestone2 if it was a big fiasco | 18:17 |
| raildo | morganfainberg: why? | 18:17 |
| dolphm | ayoung: nah, only if there are people willing to defend keeping it | 18:17 |
| topol | wont you have at least some point of freezing | 18:18 |
| dolphm | which seems to be no one | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | raildo, rephrase: it's totally reasonable to get it in this cycle | 18:18 |
| topol | what yuou said is changes up to the bitter end | 18:18 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ++ | 18:18 |
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| topol | we got burned in havana doing that with LDAP | 18:18 |
| raildo | morganfainberg: ah, ok. | 18:18 |
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| dolphm | topol: we still have SAD and SPD, and feature proposal freeze | 18:18 |
| morganfainberg | topol we still have feature freeze | 18:19 |
| morganfainberg | topol, that wont change | 18:19 |
| bknudson | we'll still have changes right to the end | 18:19 |
| topol | OK then | 18:19 |
| dolphm | i should have mentioned those in the email | 18:19 |
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| dolphm | that's when the new deadline would be for these kinds of things | 18:19 |
| morganfainberg | topol this just extends our change window to j3 | 18:19 |
| morganfainberg | topol, rather than 1 week from now | 18:19 |
| morganfainberg | topol, if it affects the API | 18:19 |
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| topol | morganfainberg ++++ maybe I misundersatood what dolphm meant | 18:19 |
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| dolphm | topol: we're just not putting *extra* restrictions on api impacting changes anymore | 18:20 |
| topol | "when we cut proposed juno" | 18:20 |
| raildo | morganfainberg: I think I already have 50 ~ 70% of the implementation ready. | 18:20 |
| topol | dolphm, I agree | 18:20 |
| morganfainberg | raildo, yeah thats why i said it's totally reasonable :) | 18:20 |
| topol | and it does feel more agile not to freeze at j2 :-) | 18:21 |
| henrynash | raildo: I still think the spec is not sufficient, so we need to get that tightened up | 18:21 |
| dolphm | #info no more early milestone-2 deadline for API-impacting changes | 18:21 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, ++ | 18:21 |
| dolphm | alright, moving on because long agenda... | 18:21 |
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| dolphm | #topic REST API for retrieving config options | 18:21 |
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| dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106558/ | 18:21 |
| raildo | henrynash: I tried to explain you there | 18:21 |
| topol | security hole!!! | 18:22 |
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| topol | :-) | 18:22 |
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| -openstackstatus- NOTICE: python2.6 jobs are failing due to bug 1342262 "virtualenv>=1.9.1 not found" A fix is out but there are still nodes built on the old stale images | 18:22 | |
| dolphm | so i -1'd this earlier today because it sounds like it belongs in oslo, as there's nothing keystone-specific about this | 18:22 |
| morganfainberg | raildo, henrynash, lets circle up after in -keytone, but i think the concerns are resolvable | 18:22 |
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| dstanek | seems like there is a lot of resistance to this on the ML | 18:22 |
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| raildo | ok | 18:22 |
| dolphm | dstanek: there's a thread for this? | 18:22 |
| henrynash | ok | 18:22 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, can we please follow the oslo rule of "make it work in a project first" here? | 18:23 |
| bknudson | maybe what's needed is a concrete example of how it's to be used. | 18:23 |
| ayoung | I don't want to push broken code to oslo just sto sync it back down | 18:23 |
| stevemar | buahaha, i opened that bug | 18:23 |
| morganfainberg | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040272.html | 18:23 |
| topol | dolphm, dont oslo things need to be proved out in a project and then moved to oslo after they show value? | 18:23 |
| dolphm | ayoung: then make it work first on stackforge - i don't think it belongs in our tree | 18:23 |
| ayoung | topol, +_+ | 18:23 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: thanks | 18:23 |
| dstanek | morganfainberg: thx. | 18:24 |
| henrynash | dolphm: yes, I have to agree….although it’s not so much resistance againstthe idea as to whether it is needed in conjunction with everything else available | 18:24 |
| dolphm | topol: but there's nothing relevant to keystone for us to prove out. this is literally exposing oslo.config via generic middleware | 18:24 |
| morganfainberg | let me be upfront and say I don't see the usecase. but... to be fair i don't know what exactly you're solving henrynash, i am open to being swayed to it being valuable | 18:24 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I think that is now the standard response for all new features; stackforge first.... | 18:24 |
| bknudson | I think people responding to the discussion on the mailing list are thinking that there's better ways to get config done... | 18:24 |
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| bknudson | e.g., use chef or puppet | 18:24 |
| dstanek | henrynash: do you have a usecase at IBM for it? | 18:24 |
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| morganfainberg | and i dislike exposing configs via rest, logs can be aggregated to see what the results are and chef/puppet/tripleo/whatever is better about configuring things | 18:25 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i don't want to waste keystone-core's time supporting a feature that doesn't belong in the tree | 18:25 |
| ayoung | bknudson, yeah, but chef and puppet say what you want it to be, not what it actually is. | 18:25 |
| bknudson | but if chef or puppet don't work in some scenario then we have a different requirement that the proposal would fulfill | 18:25 |
| morganfainberg | unless we open the door to do live-rest-based-config-changes. | 18:25 |
| topol | dolphm, someone still should try something before it goes to oslo | 18:25 |
| henrynash | dstanek: we do…and it’s as dscribed | 18:25 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I agree..and I think most new things should be done out of tree first. | 18:25 |
| topol | something new like this | 18:25 |
| ayoung | that was the idea of "everthing is an extension" | 18:25 |
| henrynash | but I’m happy to do this out of tree to start | 18:25 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: ++ i remember looking a while ago at being able to do config via a REST API and was told that everyone uses puppet (eg) for this sort of thing anyway | 18:26 |
| dolphm | henrynash: i'd suggest stackforge/oslo-config-middleware =) | 18:26 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, it should be trivial to do as middleware that consumes oslo.config out-of-tree | 18:26 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++ | 18:26 |
| jamielennox | so i'm in general anti it being in projects unless there is good reason that i haven't seen yet | 18:26 |
| henrynash | ok, let’s take this one off the list | 18:26 |
| topol | dolphm, henrynash. Im fine with that. Thats what happened to pycadf and then folks brought it back in. Sweet justice :-) | 18:26 |
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| morganfainberg | jamielennox, it's because we use python and not tomcat, if we used tomcat people would love live-config-changes (or C++ with a draconian restart policy **previous job) | 18:27 |
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| bknudson | I implemented a REST API that re-read the config file for a previous project... worked pretty well. | 18:27 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, hey if people love it, it'll be easier to get directly into oslo.config or associated rather than needing it in keystone then elsewhere | 18:27 |
| henrynash | morganfainberq: ++ | 18:27 |
| topol | morganfainberg ++ | 18:28 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ++ | 18:28 |
| dolphm | alright... | 18:28 |
| dolphm | #topic Defaulting keystonemiddleware.auth_token to use Identity v3 | 18:28 |
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| stevemar | sounds like bknudson just signed up for work | 18:28 |
| stevemar | dolphm, lets do it! | 18:28 |
| ayoung | bknudson, kill -1 type behavior? | 18:28 |
| bknudson | I thought it would default to version discovery? | 18:28 |
| topol | we are ready for that??? | 18:28 |
| dolphm | so shardy noted on the mailing list that we're not using v3 with auth_token yet, and the way to change that behavior by default is this: | 18:28 |
| morganfainberg | topol it passes gate last we checked | 18:28 |
| dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106819/ | 18:28 |
| topol | morganfainberg, woow. thats progress | 18:29 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i also responded to shardy's email this morning indicating we were working on it actively. | 18:29 |
| dolphm | unfortunately, proof that this changes passes gate is here: | 18:29 |
| dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106833/ | 18:29 |
| jamielennox | so i don't undestand this, the only thing that isn't doing v3 is the initial auth request - and when we do a release of client we can consume all that loading from config work to fix that | 18:29 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, nova change is merged iirc | 18:29 |
| morganfainberg | cinder is 1x+2 waiting for a 2nd | 18:29 |
| dolphm | until we move over all projects from keystoneclient.middleware.auth_token to keystonemiddleware.auth_token | 18:29 |
| bknudson | I'm surprised that normal version discovery wouldn't work here. | 18:29 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: woot | 18:29 |
| morganfainberg | i'll harass jgriffith today | 18:29 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: is there a bug number on those changes? | 18:29 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: i wanted to advertise it at today's cross-project meeting | 18:29 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, uhm... they're bknudson's changes | 18:30 |
| morganfainberg | not sure. | 18:30 |
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| dolphm | make sure every project is aware and onboard | 18:30 |
| dolphm | bknudson: ? | 18:30 |
| bknudson | there wasn't a bug | 18:30 |
| dolphm | bknudson: can we make one, and retroactively mark it as fixed in nova? :) | 18:30 |
| morganfainberg | i just was piggybacking on his reviews (he gets all the credit! he did the work in the code) | 18:30 |
| bknudson | yes, I'll make a bug after the meeting. | 18:30 |
| dolphm | bknudson: thanks! ping me with the number | 18:30 |
| bknudson | my changes were easy | 18:30 |
| bknudson | although ceilometer was a pain | 18:30 |
| bknudson | since they were referencing internal variable | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, i think they are still -1 on it | 18:31 |
| bknudson | I don't know if they'll like my change. | 18:31 |
| dolphm | so back to the point at hand-- anyone aware of a reason we shouldn't default to v3 in keystonemiddleware today, and release that as 1.1.0? | 18:31 |
| dolphm | or release *soon* | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, but that was for unrelated reasons | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, if they're referencing an internal variable, they're doing it wrong, i'm happy to go argue with them on that | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | s/argue/discuss | 18:31 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 18:31 |
| bknudson | dolphm: I'm confused why we can't use normal version discovery to get the version to use? | 18:31 |
| bknudson | it's implemented in keystoneclient | 18:31 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: s/discuss/lecture/ | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | (unless you want to) | 18:32 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++ | 18:32 |
| dolphm | bknudson: we do basically use discovery. the order of preference currently prefers v2 when it finds both | 18:32 |
| dolphm | bknudson: my change reverses the default preference | 18:32 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: it's not the review i was thinking of - all this review should do is prioritize v3 over v2 if available | 18:32 |
| jamielennox | which seems logical to me | 18:32 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: ++ | 18:32 |
| bknudson | ok, we can switch to normal version discovery later. | 18:32 |
| dolphm | we actually had v3 as the preference a long time ago, but it broke nova. jamielennox recently fixed that breakage (by providing a normalized catalog to nova) | 18:33 |
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| morganfainberg | yay jamielennox ! | 18:33 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ++ | 18:33 |
| jamielennox | bknudson: yep, once we land the auth plugins and session in middleware using the proper discovery object will be easier | 18:33 |
| topol | jamielennox was missed in San Antonio | 18:34 |
| morganfainberg | topol, +++++++ | 18:34 |
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| * jamielennox missed San Antonio too | 18:34 | |
| morganfainberg | topol, i hear it's cause he just doens't love us enough to fly 18hrs+ each way for 3 days | 18:34 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: ++ | 18:34 |
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| topol | exactly | 18:34 |
| topol | take one for the team, man | 18:34 |
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| topol | :-) | 18:35 |
| jamielennox | i'll see what i can do for next one | 18:35 |
| dolphm | alright, so i'll leave the discussion up for code review if there's no reason to switch back to WIP: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106819/ | 18:35 |
| ayoung | blame our travel budget more than jamielennox 's dedication | 18:35 |
| topol | we are just kidding | 18:35 |
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| dolphm | #topic Migrating non-CADF events to CADF format | 18:35 |
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| dolphm | topol: (?) o/ | 18:35 |
| dolphm | there's no name on this one | 18:35 |
| topol | 18 hours is a long time for 3 days | 18:35 |
| stevemar | dolphm, that was me | 18:35 |
| dolphm | stevemar: o/ | 18:35 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: care to edumacate us | 18:36 |
| stevemar | sure | 18:36 |
| morganfainberg | this is the notification contract discussion right? | 18:36 |
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| stevemar | pretty simple, i was questioned as to why we emit some cadf notifications (authN), and some non-CADF (project create and such) | 18:36 |
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| stevemar | I didn't have a good answer other than, one was implemented first | 18:36 |
| stevemar | i was thinking it would be good to get everything in one format | 18:37 |
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| lbragstad | When we first started doing the notification work, cadf was *just* getting off the ground I believe | 18:37 |
| stevemar | so tools could more easily consumer things from us, in only one format, not multiple | 18:37 |
| stevemar | lbragstad, yep | 18:37 |
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| stevemar | i wanted to propose it here, see if anyone had any thoughts/ pushback | 18:38 |
| dolphm | stevemar: so would this be a matter of emitting two notifications on identity.project.created, for example? or a switch of formats | 18:38 |
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| stevemar | dolphm, i was thinking switch of formats, but we could do both and deprecate the other | 18:38 |
| stevemar | in due time | 18:38 |
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| lbragstad | stevemar: what format are you leaning towards? the cadf format, right? | 18:39 |
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| dolphm | there's an omg-notifications-ARE-an-API discussion on openstack-dev right now that might have input on that | 18:39 |
| stevemar | lbragstad, yes | 18:39 |
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| morganfainberg | dolphm, ++ that was what i thought this was in reference to | 18:40 |
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| stevemar | dolphm, ugh yeah, i saw that, theres a lot going on there, | 18:40 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: was there a trend towards more CADF there? | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, it was suggested? | 18:40 |
| dolphm | i haven't read past the first post | 18:40 |
| topol | hmmm, sometimes we may need to generate both for a transition period :-( | 18:40 |
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| stevemar | dolphm, same | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i dunno, it's kindof a dense conversation | 18:40 |
| morganfainberg | topol, configurable | 18:41 |
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| dolphm | #action stevemar to catch up on the dense mailing list conversation, drag keystone into the convo, and report back next week | 18:41 |
| morganfainberg | topol, let the deployers choose if they need both, or let them disable one if we're doing that | 18:41 |
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| bknudson | I was at the HK summit meeting and was surprised that ceilometer was putting up with the changes to notifications | 18:41 |
| topol | yes, but still yuvky | 18:41 |
| stevemar | dolphm, ahhh C'MON | 18:41 |
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| arunkant | Would be better if it can support both format (versioning ?) or configurable. I am working on a barbican change where it will consume these keystone notifications/events. | 18:41 |
| dolphm | stevemar: thanks! | 18:41 |
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| morganfainberg | stevemar, Voluntold! | 18:41 |
| stevemar | dammit rabbit | 18:41 |
| topol | dolphm, wow...Im speechless | 18:41 |
| topol | :-) | 18:41 |
| dolphm | arunkant: ++ | 18:41 |
| stevemar | dolphm is learning from topol | 18:42 |
| bknudson | might need to send the message on a different channel | 18:42 |
| topol | I didnt want to say it but... | 18:42 |
| dolphm | dr redundant is a pro | 18:42 |
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| dolphm | topol: p.s. i have expectations for casual nick friday | 18:42 |
| dolphm | #topic Dependency Injection "Fix" | 18:42 |
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| dolphm | morganfainberg: o/ | 18:43 |
| dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106951/ | 18:43 |
| morganfainberg | o/ | 18:43 |
| topol | that name is so demeaning. like using the term spirit bunnies in fast time at ridgemont high. only ayoung will get that movie reference | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | arunkant: that would work. I *think* what is currently sent in a notification is a subset of the cadf standard... so future version should build on/include what we already have. | 18:43 |
| morganfainberg | ok so, dependency injection is overly complex for what we do | 18:43 |
| morganfainberg | lets stop doing it. | 18:43 |
| dolphm | dstanek: ? | 18:43 |
| lbragstad | s/version/versions/ | 18:43 |
| dstanek | dolphm: yep, too complex! | 18:43 |
| morganfainberg | lets either pass the dependencies into the objects on init that need it, or reference the registry directly | 18:44 |
| topol | morganfainberg, really. cause I hate that stuff. makes the code hard to follow | 18:44 |
| ayoung | We moved beyong "reference the manager" for a reason.... | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | make the managers really more like singletons | 18:44 |
| jamielennox | morganfainberg: ++ | 18:44 |
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| topol | morganfainberg +++ | 18:44 |
| bknudson | no singletons | 18:44 |
| dstanek | i agree and that dependencies should be passed into the __init__ | 18:44 |
| dolphm | oh THIS is what ya'll were discussing #openstack-keystone today | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | but the current DI has caused us issues and has lots of edge cases | 18:44 |
| ayoung | no singletons | 18:44 |
| dolphm | i missed the beginning and then had java nightmares wondering wtf | 18:44 |
| dstanek | a real DI framework would force you into that anyway | 18:44 |
| topol | what is casual nick friday??? | 18:44 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, it was an option, not saying it was the right answer | 18:45 |
| bknudson | we don't treat them like singletons anyways (in the tests) | 18:45 |
| * topol I know dstanek must know a better way to do that stuff | 18:45 | |
| bknudson | and we can't if we want to do valid testing | 18:45 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, right. | 18:45 |
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| morganfainberg | bknudson, well we could but it would get really really ugly | 18:45 |
| jamielennox | currently the entire dependency tree get's loaded on the first call anyway - if anything it's better to do it on boot | 18:45 |
| ayoung | dependencies should be passed in to __init__ | 18:45 |
| dstanek | topol: i started to convert of code to a different DI framework, but the changes were too extensive so i stopped | 18:46 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, that is perfectly fine by me | 18:46 |
| ayoung | we had circular deps at one point. Can we cut those now? | 18:46 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: between what and what? | 18:46 |
| bknudson | we've got a part that builds all the drivers anyways, all it has to do is build the drivers differently, passing in the refs that need it. | 18:46 |
| morganfainberg | ayoung, i think we have. and even if we haven't, the resolution to that is in service.py backendloading | 18:46 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, identity and assignment | 18:46 |
| dolphm | the proxy methods? | 18:46 |
| dolphm | is there still a circular dep? | 18:46 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, no, where identity being LDAP means assignment is LDAP | 18:47 |
| topol | morganfainberg, yeah the code with the comment, do this one before al the others... | 18:47 |
| morganfainberg | it was one needed the other in some cases for compatibility | 18:47 |
| morganfainberg | this still can be 100% resolved in the backend building code. | 18:47 |
| bknudson | so you didn't have to configure the assignment backend, it was derived from the identity backend config | 18:47 |
| dstanek | is there a proposal for what we want to do there? or just some ideas? | 18:47 |
| ayoung | ++ lets do it right this time | 18:47 |
| dolphm | bknudson: ah | 18:48 |
| topol | needs to be completed before Lebrons contract runs out in 2 years | 18:48 |
| dolphm | dstanek: make ldap assignment go away! | 18:48 |
| morganfainberg | this is a relatively easy / minor fix all said and done, lots of simplification | 18:48 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, i wish :( | 18:48 |
| topol | dstanek, 2 years 42 million | 18:49 |
| dolphm | we need a fantasies/ dir in -specs | 18:49 |
| topol | welcome home son | 18:49 |
| morganfainberg | now, there is _still_ an issue with class level instantiated objects, but we can just punt and say "who cares". | 18:49 |
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| bknudson | I don't think you could do that with our DI anyways | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | e.g. an object instatied at the class definition point can't receive the newest version of the *_api object | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | but we can work around those special cases. | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, no we can't | 18:50 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, thats what made me want to rip this all apart in the first place. | 18:50 |
| ayoung | dolphm, ldap assignemtn can go away. We can now default assignemet Driver to None. | 18:51 |
| morganfainberg | bknudson, even though i'm not using that functionality in the next update. | 18:51 |
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| dstanek | optional deps are just evil | 18:51 |
| morganfainberg | ok so, solution: pass dependencies in to the manager init | 18:51 |
| morganfainberg | i think is what i generally heard | 18:51 |
| ayoung | morganfainberg, ++ | 18:51 |
| bknudson | sounds like the normal way to do it. | 18:51 |
| bknudson | nothing fancy | 18:51 |
| topol | morganfainberg that would be so awesome | 18:51 |
| morganfainberg | easy enough, make the manager base class smarter | 18:52 |
| jamielennox | yep, magic-less | 18:52 |
| morganfainberg | (not a lot smarter) | 18:52 |
| bknudson | it's like putting an umlaut in Luke | 18:52 |
| hrybacki | lol | 18:52 |
| bknudson | just confuses everyone | 18:52 |
| ayoung | Or Blue Oyster Cult, for that matter | 18:52 |
| morganfainberg | whats wrong with pütting an umlaut in lüke or anything with a ü. | 18:52 |
| topol | motley crue. saw them in concert | 18:52 |
| ayoung | topol, BOC was first | 18:53 |
| henrynash | ayoung: on your feet, or on your knees… | 18:53 |
| stevemar | i'd appreciate eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100023/17 it reflects what we talked about in SAT | 18:53 |
| topol | love BOC | 18:53 |
| morganfainberg | henrynash, s/your/yoür | 18:53 |
| morganfainberg | ok i'll update the spec to reflect the discussion here. | 18:53 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: fwiw, freenode won't let me /nick to dölphm | 18:53 |
| morganfainberg | dolphm, WHAT?! lammmme | 18:54 |
| dolphm | "Erroneous Nickname" | 18:54 |
| topol | freenode keeping folks in line | 18:54 |
| bknudson | it must be taken already | 18:54 |
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| hrybacki | so many upset Germans | 18:54 |
| morganfainberg | /nick mörganfaïnbërg | 18:54 |
| stevemar | hrybacki, not after sunday's win | 18:54 |
| dolphm | so, 5 minutes: | 18:54 |
| dolphm | #topic open discussion | 18:54 |
| topol | They are HAPPY! | 18:54 |
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| dolphm | and holy crap that was the longest agenda we've ever made it through | 18:54 |
| hrybacki | stevemar: solid point :P | 18:55 |
| stevemar | dolphm, good leaderizing | 18:55 |
| morganfainberg | also yay for hrybacki making it to the meetup!! | 18:55 |
| bknudson | kept it on topic somehow | 18:55 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 18:55 |
| stevemar | we managed to save all our jokes for the end | 18:55 |
| hrybacki | thanks all, it was honestly amazing learning from y'all in person | 18:55 |
| dolphm | morganfainberg: hrybacki: ++ | 18:55 |
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| topol | defintely a productive time | 18:56 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: are you looking at a client release any time soon? | 18:56 |
| dolphm | jamielennox: YES! i wanted to poke you about that | 18:56 |
| dstanek | so it looks like we have 47k lines of code | 18:56 |
| dolphm | barbican wants a release soon to take advantage of your owrk | 18:56 |
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| dolphm | jamielennox: any blockers to doing that today? | 18:56 |
| dolphm | (0.10.0?) | 18:57 |
| bknudson | dstanek: does that include oslo-incubator? | 18:57 |
| dstanek | bknudson: yes | 18:57 |
| bknudson | because hopefully that will be going away mostly | 18:57 |
| dolphm | dstanek: in keystone? | 18:57 |
| stevemar | dolphm, can we wait until mareks stuff is in? it's gating now | 18:57 |
| jamielennox | dolphm: let me have a quick look through, but i think most of what i have left is a nice-to-have for this release | 18:57 |
| dolphm | stevemar: sure, give me patch numbers | 18:57 |
| dstanek | ~45k without | 18:57 |
| stevemar | dolphm, also everything is blocked because of bug 1342262 | 18:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1342262 in openstack-ci "virtualenv>=1.9.1 not found for py26 environments" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1342262 | 18:57 |
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| dolphm | stevemar: ah yeah | 18:58 |
| dolphm | alright | 18:58 |
| topol | I thought dolphm charged a beer to release a new client. Guess the price has dropped | 18:58 |
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| stevemar | dolphm, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92166/ i would like that one in | 18:58 |
| marekd | stevemar: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ | 18:59 |
| dolphm | ooooh raise ReleaseNotFunded(_('Beer required', lang=oslo.i18n.en_AU)) | 18:59 |
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| topol | type=imported | 18:59 |
| stevemar | dolphm, can you release a new version if the gate is failing? | 18:59 |
| dolphm | stevemar: marekd: but there's also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99704/ | 18:59 |
| stevemar | dolphm, do you just take a snap shot of the current master level and thats it? | 18:59 |
| dolphm | stevemar: tag and upload the tag; but i wouldn't want to release with a jammed gate anyway | 19:00 |
| dolphm | time! | 19:00 |
| dolphm | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| dolphm | #startmeeting infra | 19:05 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:05 |
| dolphm | #topic Beer | 19:05 |
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| dolphm | #info Meetup in Germany | 19:05 |
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| dolphm | #link https://twitter.com/sdague/status/489120253163892736 | 19:05 |
| dolphm | #endmeeting | 19:05 |
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| morganfainberg | LOL | 19:05 |
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| ttx | Who is around for the TC meeting ? | 20:00 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 20:00 |
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| zehicle_at_dell | o/ | 20:00 |
| mikal | Hi | 20:00 |
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| zaneb | o/ | 20:00 |
| markmc | hey | 20:00 |
| ttx | russellb, annegentle, mordred, devananda, vishy, markmcclain, jeblair, jaypipes, sdague: around ? | 20:00 |
| russellb | o/ | 20:01 |
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| ttx | I know mordred, jeblair and sdague are all at the infra sprint, probably somewhere tasting German bier | 20:01 |
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| ttx | but we need 2 more to have quorum | 20:02 |
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| anteaya | o/ | 20:03 |
| anteaya | jeblair and sdague are drinking beer | 20:03 |
| vishy | o/ | 20:03 |
| devananda | o/ | 20:03 |
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| ttx | yay, that makes 7 | 20:03 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting tc | 20:03 |
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| ttx | Agenda for today is: | 20:03 |
| anteaya | mordred is actually still in north america I believe | 20:04 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/TechnicalCommittee | 20:04 |
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| ttx | looks like markmcclain is around too | 20:04 |
| markmcclain1 | o/ | 20:04 |
| ttx | #topic Core Capabilities TC scoring | 20:04 |
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| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/100722 | 20:04 |
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| ttx | I got a bit of clarification on what to do when the capability name doesn't really match the set of underlying tests, and around the meaning of "complete": | 20:04 |
| dhellmann | ttx: do you want a new draft with the references to the ML discussion included, or is having those links in the review history good enough? | 20:04 |
| ttx | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/defcore-committee/2014-July/000247.html | 20:05 |
| ttx | no I think it's good enough | 20:05 |
| dhellmann | ok | 20:05 |
| ttx | With that clarification, I think the currently-proposed scoring for havana is as good as any | 20:05 |
| ttx | We just need to gather enough +1s on it now | 20:05 |
| russellb | agree | 20:05 |
| ttx | Unless someone questions a specific score and wants us to discuss it here | 20:05 |
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| ttx | so we need 4 more +1s to pass it | 20:06 |
| zehicle_at_dell | Thank you all for getting the scoring complete! | 20:06 |
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| ttx | if all the attendance is ok with it, we could pass it now | 20:06 |
| ttx | if there is anything blocking you from +1ing it, we can discuss it now | 20:07 |
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| ttx | annegentle: o/ | 20:07 |
| russellb | zehicle_at_dell: thanks for the clarifications | 20:07 |
| ttx | annegentle: we are discussing https://review.openstack.org/100722 and trying to get the last +1s on it | 20:07 |
| zehicle_at_dell | russellb, thanks. Let me know if I should update the source materials too | 20:07 |
| zehicle_at_dell | happy to take suggestions to update there | 20:07 |
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| markmc | ttx, +1ed | 20:08 |
| russellb | biggest thing i think is what we discussed before ... a text description of each capability | 20:08 |
| russellb | because it's not always obvious what it's covering | 20:08 |
| annegentle_ | russellb: or a link to a doc | 20:08 |
| ttx | russellb: that will also let us suggest better tests to cover that capbility | 20:08 |
| russellb | ttx: indeed | 20:09 |
| russellb | i submitted one pull request to the list to fix one issue :) | 20:09 |
| zehicle_at_dell | russellb, I'd love to have collaboration on that. I'm updating the json source and we'd take pull to fix them | 20:09 |
| dhellmann | russellb: was that the mis-placed test or the name of compute-auth? or was that the same issue? | 20:09 |
| russellb | i put a patch up for the mis-placed test | 20:09 |
| ttx | vishy, annegentle: let me know if there is anything blocking your +1 on that one | 20:09 |
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| russellb | didn't fix compute-auth yet, because we didn't have the clarification yet | 20:09 |
| russellb | as in ... was the name right, or the test right | 20:10 |
| dhellmann | right | 20:10 |
| russellb | based on the clarifications, sounds like the list of tests was the important part, and we could suggest a better name | 20:10 |
| zehicle_at_dell | DefCore's expectation was the technical community owns which tests are in the capabilities | 20:10 |
| russellb | orly... | 20:10 |
| zehicle_at_dell | you will not get push back from changes like that | 20:10 |
| annegentle_ | ttx: I still would like an explanation for a 0.5 | 20:11 |
| annegentle_ | ttx: in the text itself, but I won't block because of it | 20:11 |
| russellb | annegentle: hm? | 20:11 |
| dhellmann | annegentle_: 0.5 was DefCore's way of saying "we don't know" | 20:11 |
| russellb | which 0.5s? | 20:11 |
| dhellmann | oh, you want that added... | 20:11 |
| ttx | annegentle: you mean, what 0.5 would mean ? There shouldn't be any left | 20:11 |
| zehicle_at_dell | yes | 20:11 |
| annegentle_ | ttx: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100721/3/resolutions/20140617-defcore-capabilities-scoring.rst | 20:11 |
| zehicle_at_dell | that's exactly right. We don't want them in the final | 20:11 |
| annegentle_ | right | 20:11 |
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| ttx | annegentle: oh on the original version? | 20:12 |
| russellb | that was just the import, to make it easier to then see the specific changes we were making | 20:12 |
| ttx | I think that original version was just a convenient way to get proposed scores up. We shouldn't block on that | 20:12 |
| ttx | 0.5 was basically like "??" asking for feedback | 20:12 |
| annegentle_ | right original version. but it's also okay to bring it in as it was without an explanation for 0.5s | 20:12 |
| zehicle_at_dell | ttx, +1 | 20:12 |
| dhellmann | that's right, I imported the data from the spreadsheet exactly as it came in so the 2nd patch could show the diff | 20:12 |
| annegentle_ | ttx: and all I wanted was an explanation of what 0.5 meant | 20:13 |
| ttx | yeah, at this point I wouldn't block it on that | 20:13 |
| russellb | can we add that as a follow-up patch? | 20:13 |
| annegentle_ | ttx: fair enough | 20:13 |
| russellb | then we won't lose existing +1s on that point | 20:13 |
| annegentle_ | russellb: that makes sense esp. if it's a full-on exactly copy import | 20:13 |
| dhellmann | annegentle_: line 36 of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100721/3/resolutions/20140617-defcore-capabilities-scoring.rst | 20:13 |
| russellb | but can still add it to clarify i suppose | 20:13 |
| annegentle_ | dhellmann: ah there we go! | 20:13 |
| ttx | ah, it's already there :) | 20:14 |
| russellb | yay | 20:14 |
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| annegentle_ | woo | 20:14 |
| russellb | so do we have +1s from everyone here? | 20:14 |
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| dhellmann | annegentle_ hasn't voted on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/100722/ | 20:15 |
| ttx | no vishy and no annegentle yet | 20:15 |
| ttx | anyway I'll confirm the vote tomorrow, to give a chance for people not present at the meeting to scream | 20:15 |
| ttx | but this sounds like 99% there | 20:15 |
| russellb | ah, makes sense :) | 20:15 |
| devananda | yea, those changes LGTM | 20:15 |
| ttx | devananda: hi! | 20:16 |
| devananda | ttx: hi :) | 20:16 |
| ttx | cool, let's move on | 20:16 |
| annegentle_ | on it, thanks ttx, voted | 20:16 |
| ttx | #topic Integrated projects and new requirements: Gap analysis for Heat | 20:16 |
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| ttx | zaneb: o/ | 20:16 |
| ttx | We are left with two projects in this analysis: Swift and Heat | 20:16 |
| zaneb | hola | 20:16 |
| ttx | I tried to get Swift on the agenda for today but John wasn't available | 20:16 |
| zaneb | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/heat-gap-analysis | 20:17 |
| ttx | Zane accepted that we do Heat instead, so here we go ^ | 20:17 |
| ttx | thanks for the last minute run :) | 20:17 |
| zaneb | np, it turned out to be less work than I expected | 20:17 |
| ttx | ok, let's go through that | 20:17 |
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| ttx | zaneb: so you'll need to propose the mission statement for addition to the governance repo | 20:18 |
| russellb | sounds like the biggest (only?) thing is more functional test coverage? | 20:18 |
| dhellmann | zaneb: for "leverage existing functionality" on line 78, does heat still use ceilometer alarms to trigger operations? | 20:18 |
| ttx | #info Gap: missing mission statement | 20:18 |
| zaneb | dhellmann: yes | 20:18 |
| dhellmann | zaneb: ok, I added a note about that | 20:19 |
| zaneb | thanks :) | 20:19 |
| * russellb thinks Heat has done an excellent job | 20:19 | |
| russellb | i think we just need to add #info Gap: need increased functional test coverage | 20:20 |
| zaneb | thanks russellb :) | 20:20 |
| mikal | Well, and the mission statement thing | 20:21 |
| russellb | right, that was noted above | 20:21 |
| zaneb | yep, and the grenade stuff is in progress, but it wouldn't hurt to track it | 20:21 |
| mikal | Ahhh, I see, you're proposing an #info, not summarizing | 20:21 |
| ttx | #info Gap: need increased functional test coverage | 20:21 |
| russellb | d'oh, missed the grenade one | 20:21 |
| annegentle_ | \o | 20:21 |
| devananda | zaneb: was the name "Heat" checked for TM conflicts? | 20:21 |
| zaneb | russellb: right at the bottom | 20:21 |
| russellb | yep see it now | 20:21 |
| zaneb | devananda: not that I know of | 20:21 |
| annegentle_ | I have a question about how backwards compatibility for Identity API v2.0 is handled | 20:21 |
| devananda | zaneb: i see your comment regarding "OpenStack Orchestration" bu tI think taht line refers to the short name as well | 20:21 |
| annegentle_ | or if it is already and I missed it | 20:22 |
| russellb | ttx: #info Gap: need upgrade testing using grenade | 20:22 |
| markmcclain1 | zaneb: what does good unit test coverage work out to be? | 20:22 |
| markmcclain1 | (numberically) | 20:22 |
| devananda | zaneb: so that seems like it should be done | 20:22 |
| ttx | russellb: I think you can #info yourself | 20:22 |
| dhellmann | do we need to do the marketing team review of the name (line 253)? | 20:22 |
| russellb | ttx: orly ... thought chair had to | 20:22 |
| russellb | #info Gap: need upgrade testing using grenade | 20:23 |
| ttx | russellb: we'll see that : | 20:23 |
| devananda | dhellmann: i think we need to check for potential TM conflicts now | 20:23 |
| ttx | #info Gap: need upgrade testing using grenade (regression check) | 20:23 |
| russellb | ha | 20:23 |
| devananda | eg, to avoid havign to change the project's codename | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | devananda: right | 20:23 |
| zaneb | annegentle_: we have a shim to for the Keystone v2 API to the extent that it contains the features we need. we plan to keep it around until the v2 api is removed | 20:23 |
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| russellb | was assuming that was done long ago? the TM check that is | 20:24 |
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| ttx | russellb: yes it was done | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | russellb: the etherpad implies maybe not | 20:24 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that requirement is mostly n/a for existing projects | 20:24 |
| zaneb | ttx: ah, OK. I wasn't aware that it was done | 20:24 |
| ttx | unless a challenge comes | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | ttx: ok | 20:24 |
| ttx | and the challenger can claim previous usage | 20:25 |
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| ttx | Is there anything to do around docs ? (the three kinds of docs note) | 20:26 |
| zaneb | there have been some discussions with annegentle about where the template authoring guide should live | 20:27 |
| zaneb | I don't know that there's been a conclusion yet | 20:27 |
| ttx | Not sure I would count that as a gap though | 20:27 |
| dhellmann | does it live somewhere now and you want to move it, or does it not exist yet? | 20:28 |
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| zaneb | dhellmann: yes, it lives in the developer documentation | 20:28 |
| zaneb | which is a somewhat odd place for it | 20:28 |
| dhellmann | ok, at least it's there *somewhere* then :-) | 20:28 |
| ttx | fwiw I'd say that Heat development is going quite well, especially considering that it's the 2nd or 3rd largest Openstack project in terms of activity | 20:28 |
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| ttx | depending on the way you twist stackalytics data | 20:29 |
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| ttx | Any other gap worth mentioning ? | 20:29 |
| annegentleontheb | sorry catching up after getting dropped off wifi | 20:29 |
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| annegentleontheb | We have a blueprint that we're doing details on to try to integrate a hot template guide into the user guide | 20:30 |
| zaneb | I never did find any Dashboard docs | 20:30 |
| annegentleontheb | good discussion earlier about integration | 20:30 |
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| annegentleontheb | zaneb: the dashboard is documented in the user guide | 20:30 |
| zaneb | possibly because I am just clueless | 20:30 |
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| ttx | zaneb: that's because you instinctively keep away from user guides | 20:31 |
| zaneb | annegentleontheb: including the Heat part of the dashboard? | 20:31 |
| annegentleontheb | #link http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/ | 20:31 |
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| annegentleontheb | zaneb: you can certainly add it, that's where it goes | 20:31 |
| zaneb | http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/content/dashboard_stacks.html | 20:31 |
| zaneb | it appears it is :) ^ | 20:32 |
| annegentleontheb | zaneb: pretty much that's organized by use case, ah there you go | 20:32 |
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| annegentleontheb | zaneb: how are your API docs doing? I see updates so that's good | 20:32 |
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| zaneb | annegentleontheb: they're pretty good, but could use more examples | 20:33 |
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| ttx | wow, the internetz are not in good shape today | 20:33 |
| annegentle | zaneb: sure | 20:33 |
| annegentle | my internetz are not, sorry. :( | 20:33 |
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| devananda | zaneb: where do you sit w.r.t. the recent discussions around Tempest testing vs. in-project testing? I ask because there's a call out for lack of functional testing right now | 20:34 |
| anteaya | annegentle: not you, been net splitting all day | 20:34 |
| zaneb | and maybe longer descriptions | 20:34 |
| annegentle | anteaya: whew. | 20:34 |
| ttx | looks like markmcclain and dhellmann are sharing your wifi hotspot | 20:34 |
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| ttx | OK, anything else ? That makes 3 gaps so far | 20:35 |
| annegentle | that's all I had | 20:35 |
| markmcclain | nah… I'm on a tether but the nearest cell tower is barely in range out here | 20:35 |
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| devananda | ttx: I dont see any other gaps. just curious about their testing plans | 20:36 |
| ttx | zaneb: for a future meeting (not necessarily next week) you should build a wiki page with a plan to address the gap in the near future | 20:36 |
| zaneb | ok, can do | 20:36 |
| ttx | models are linked from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/TechnicalCommittee | 20:36 |
| ttx | Like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/TechnicalCommittee/Neutron_Gap_Coverage | 20:36 |
| ttx | only a lot shorter :) | 20:36 |
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| zaneb | whew ;) | 20:37 |
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| anteaya | last week helped | 20:37 |
| ttx | zaneb: when the gap coverage plan is ready we'll quickly bless it at the meeting, then after each milestone we'll review progress towards completing it | 20:37 |
| ttx | Any other comment on that ? Or can we move to next topic ? | 20:38 |
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| ttx | I'll take that as a NO | 20:38 |
| ttx | and a YES | 20:38 |
| ttx | zaneb: thanks! | 20:38 |
| zaneb | pleasure! :) | 20:39 |
| ttx | #topic Election behavior guidelines redux | 20:39 |
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| ttx | dhellman_ posted a new proposal after the last meeting: | 20:39 |
| ttx | * 2014-07-11 Election Activities (https://review.openstack.org/106557) | 20:39 |
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| ttx | I'm fine with this one | 20:39 |
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| ttx | but then I'm also fine with the latest versions of the others, since I think they all reach the goal of communicating expected behavior | 20:40 |
| ttx | so imho whichever reaches majority vote first shall be picked | 20:40 |
| anteaya | let's go with doug's, markmc likes it | 20:40 |
| ttx | I don't think we need to discuss this forever, so if by the next TC meeting we can't get majority to approve on one, I propose we use regular rules (>=5 "+1" and <=4 "-1") to approve one | 20:40 |
| ttx | So please +1 the versions you support asap :) | 20:40 |
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| ttx | or if you want to get a quick --amend in, now is the time to ask for it | 20:41 |
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| dhellmann | eglynn does have one good comment on patch 1 on my version about clarifying how the subset of the TC overseeing the election gets involved if something happens before an election actually starts | 20:42 |
| dhellmann | I just saw it, so I don't have a good fix, yet | 20:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: could that be clarified in some other doc, like https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Election_Officiating_Guidelines ? | 20:43 |
| devananda | 6 +1's already :) | 20:43 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: sure, that's a good way to handle it | 20:43 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: should I reword to refer to that doc, or is a comment enough? | 20:44 |
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| annegentle | dhellmann: ttx: do you expect the election officials to report it to the ED or not? | 20:44 |
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| annegentle | I can comment inline too | 20:45 |
| russellb | annegentle: keep reading :) | 20:45 |
| russellb | 2 paragraphs later | 20:45 |
| dhellmann | annegentle: only in extreme cases (line 67) | 20:45 |
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| dhellmann | and then only if the active TC members decide that is necessary | 20:45 |
| annegentle | dhellmann: ok... not sure I am +1 on that, seems like we are trying to protect "our own" (one possible perception) | 20:46 |
| annegentle | dhellmann: but yours does seem the most close to what we want | 20:46 |
| markmcclain | annegentle: do don't forget that someone feels that we are | 20:46 |
| dhellmann | the point is to have a way to say "hey, knock it off" without having it go on someone's permanent record | 20:46 |
| russellb | i just read it as likely unnecessary | 20:46 |
| anteaya | actually I see it as a spectrum | 20:46 |
| ttx | dhellmann: I think it's pretty obvious that the TC is involved, except the TC members that happen to run for said election | 20:46 |
| markmcclain | they always have the community right to report directly | 20:46 |
| anteaya | first stop is tc | 20:46 |
| annegentle | markmcclain: true, fair enough | 20:46 |
| ttx | dhellmann: you could imagine a PTL election where a TC member is running | 20:46 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: for such case, I'd expect all the TC members that are not running on that election to be involved in resolving issues | 20:47 |
| annegentle | pretty sure "extreme" will vary widely in definition | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | ttx: good point | 20:47 |
| zaneb | dhellmann, annegentle: how about "in the case of an alleged violation of the Community Code of Conduct" rather than "In an especially extreme case"? | 20:47 |
| dhellmann | annegentle: I'm also trying to indicate that I trust the future elected group to decide what that is, but that it should not be the way we handle things by default | 20:48 |
| annegentle | zaneb: if that's the intent... extreme could mean "wide reaching" or "got to the press" | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | annegentle: and of course, as anteaya has pointed out, there's nothing preventing any foundation member from reporting to the ED directly | 20:48 |
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| dhellmann | if they feel the election officials or TC aren't doing their jobs properly | 20:48 |
| ttx | dhellmann: so I guess that could use a clarification that doesn't talk about "active members of the TC" but rather "members of the TC that are not candidates in the election involved" | 20:48 |
| annegentle | dhellmann: yeah I still sense the ED should take the brunt of investigation I guess, rather than TC, since we're so close to it | 20:48 |
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| eglynn | zaneb: my $0.02 ... s/violation/infringement/ (the former is a little loaded) | 20:48 |
| dhellmann | zaneb: I don't want to imply that every report is going to the ED | 20:49 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: ok, I can add that | 20:49 |
| ttx | annegentle: we should be mostly self-sufficient though, as long as the CCoC is not invoked | 20:49 |
| dhellmann | annegentle: in previous meetings we've talked about the community dealing with its own issues, without bringing the foundation into every little discussion | 20:49 |
| zaneb | dhellmann: fair enough. after years of reading RFCs the difference between MAY and MUST is quite clear in my mind, maybe more so than in the general population ;) | 20:49 |
| annegentle | ttx: ok, that's true, and the electorate should be comfortable reaching out to at least one TC member | 20:50 |
| ttx | and I agree with dhellmann that the CCoC/ED can always be involved in case that doesn't work | 20:50 |
| annegentle | dhellmann: ok | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | zaneb: fair point | 20:50 |
| dhellmann | so let me make sure I know what wording needs to change... | 20:50 |
| annegentle | ok I can vote +1 after extreme is reworded | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | is it just clarifying that anyone involved in the election is not going to be involved? | 20:51 |
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| dhellmann | or should I change the "extreme" part to just say "in some cases"? | 20:51 |
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| dhellmann | or should that explicitly mention the CoC? | 20:52 |
| anteaya | at the discretion of the consulted tc | 20:52 |
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| ttx | I think "extreme" is the correct adjective for it | 20:52 |
| markmc | the TC doesn't necessarily have to be the ones to refer it to the ED | 20:52 |
| dhellmann | hmm, that sentence already uses CoC | 20:52 |
| markmc | the reporter could go ahead and do that even if the TC didn't feel it necessary | 20:53 |
| dhellmann | markmc: true, does it need to say that? | 20:53 |
| markmc | could just say it's up to the reporter to refer it? | 20:53 |
| ttx | oh yes, missed that | 20:53 |
| markmc | dunno, don't love that option either | 20:53 |
| eglynn | markmc: +1 | 20:53 |
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| zaneb | markmc: I think having something in there makes it clear that the TC can decide to refer it without asking further permission from the reporter | 20:54 |
| ttx | "In extreme cases, community members always have the option to refer..." | 20:54 |
| anteaya | ttx the option exists extreme or not | 20:54 |
| markmc | the TC will be holding all the information though | 20:54 |
| dhellmann | zaneb: right, that was my intent -- saying what we might do, not constraining what the community can do | 20:54 |
| markmc | e.g. where multiple people reported the issue | 20:54 |
| eglynn | zaneb: that would raise the stakes of reporting unnecessarily I think | 20:54 |
| dhellmann | markmc: in that case, I would expect the ED to ask the TC for details | 20:54 |
| markmc | yeah | 20:54 |
| zaneb | eglynn: yeah, it's a double edged sword. but at least it makes the position clear | 20:55 |
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| ttx | "Community members always retain the option to refer..." ? | 20:55 |
| markmc | I don't think we need to decide up front how it would work | 20:55 |
| markmc | escalation, I mean | 20:55 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 20:55 |
| markmc | just that it can happen | 20:55 |
| anteaya | ttx that wording it more consistent with reality, for me | 20:55 |
| markmc | either via the reporter or the TC | 20:55 |
| ttx | "Note that community members always retain the option to refer..." ? | 20:55 |
| markmcclain | dhellmann: agreed | 20:55 |
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| dhellmann | the CoC has instructions for reporting violations, right? do we need to reiterate the community's rights to follow those instructions here? | 20:56 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: I think it helps to do it yes | 20:56 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll add that | 20:56 |
| ttx | people just don't know what options they have | 20:56 |
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| ttx | if we write such a resolution, we really need to mention that option... we just need to make it a bit off-track | 20:56 |
| dhellmann | sure, that's a good point | 20:56 |
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| ttx | "retain the option" is a good way to mention it without overly encouraging it | 20:57 |
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| annegentle | dhellmann: I agree, "retain the option" is fine | 20:57 |
| ttx | ok, so we should have a new patchset for this one, but let's try to get it adopted -- I'm getting tired of nitpicking it to death | 20:58 |
| ttx | #topic Pending governance changes | 20:58 |
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| ttx | * Adding Horizon mission statement (https://review.openstack.org/102050) | 20:58 |
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| ttx | This one is still short of one "+1" before reaching majority voting | 20:58 |
| ttx | * Add translation support requirement (https://review.openstack.org/97872) | 20:58 |
| ttx | I propose we WIP this one until tests are implemented. | 20:58 |
| markmcclain | +1 | 20:58 |
| markmc | ttx, yeah, agree on tired of this - feels like rough consensus, and the details now don't matter so much | 20:58 |
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| ttx | (it's a requirements change and those can only reflect consensual rules) | 20:59 |
| ttx | let me know if that works for you | 20:59 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 20:59 |
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| ttx | "K" release naming poll still going at https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/openstack-k-naming | 20:59 |
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| ttx | Results shall be announced early Thursday | 20:59 |
| ttx | Who is at OSCON next week? | 20:59 |
| dhellmann | new draft of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/106557 is up | 20:59 |
| devananda | I'll be there fri-sun | 20:59 |
| ttx | Should we skip next week meeting ? | 20:59 |
| markmc | I'm at OSCON tuesday and wednesday | 21:00 |
| devananda | then at the tripleo meetup mon-thu | 21:00 |
| markmc | morded and I are giving a talk starting 40 minutes into the TC meeting | 21:00 |
| markmc | unclear whether we'll make the meeting | 21:00 |
| markmc | also, 2 weeks after that I'm on vacation so missing the meetings | 21:00 |
| ttx | I'm fine with skipping it | 21:00 |
| markmc | apols for that | 21:00 |
| dhellmann | wfm | 21:00 |
| ttx | since I have no idea where I'll be | 21:00 |
| ttx | also it's j2 week | 21:00 |
| mikal | Sounds like we should skip it | 21:00 |
| annegentle | not at oscon | 21:00 |
| annegentle | probably skip, yeah | 21:01 |
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| devananda | + skip | 21:01 |
| ttx | so the meeting after that we'll have the post-j2 gap coverage progress | 21:01 |
| russellb | skip fine with me since so many folks are out | 21:01 |
| markmcclain | +skip | 21:01 |
| ttx | and then the meetign after that we'll have the Swift gap analysis | 21:01 |
| ttx | Looks like we might complete that this cycle after all | 21:01 |
| ttx | OK, i'll propose we skip next week | 21:02 |
| notmyname | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_gap_analysis | 21:02 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone | 21:02 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 21:02:25 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-07-15-20.03.html | 21:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-07-15-20.03.txt | 21:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-07-15-20.03.log.html | 21:02 |
| markmc | thanks ttx | 21:02 |
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| ttx | dhellmann, dolphm, notmyname, eglynn, markwash, jgriffith, mikal, zaneb, david-lyle, mestery, SlickNik, SergeyLukjanov: around ? | 21:02 |
| eglynn | o/ | 21:02 |
| notmyname | here | 21:02 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 21:02 |
| mestery | o/ | 21:02 |
| russellb | o/ | 21:03 |
| markwash | o/ | 21:03 |
| SergeyLukjanov | o/ | 21:03 |
| mikal | Hi | 21:03 |
| zaneb | o/ | 21:03 |
| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jul 15 21:03:18 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:03 |
| ttx | Agenda for today is available at: | 21:03 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:03 |
| jgriffith | o/ | 21:03 |
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| ttx | #topic News from the 1:1 sync points | 21:03 |
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| ttx | We had 1:1 syncs today, here is the log: | 21:03 |
| ttx | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-07-15-09.01.html | 21:03 |
| ttx | Not much there | 21:03 |
| ttx | Key announcement was that russellb would handle juno-2 tagging, so he'll be in touch with you all next week | 21:04 |
| david-lyle | o/ | 21:04 |
| ttx | Most projects look a bit late -- loads of stuff in review | 21:04 |
| mikal | russellb: in IRC? or email? | 21:04 |
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| russellb | mikal: either. for us, maybe email is better? | 21:04 |
| ttx | SergeyLukjanov: you wanted to mention progres on sahara horizon integration ? | 21:04 |
| mikal | russellb: sure, whatever works | 21:04 |
| ttx | +s | 21:04 |
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| russellb | just need everyone's help to clear out the j2 pages next week, aim to do it by tuesday or wednesday | 21:04 |
| ttx | my advice would be to land what you can ASAP since gate load is likely to go up on Monday/Tuesday next week | 21:05 |
| devananda | russellb: tagging incubated projects too? | 21:05 |
| russellb | devananda: yes | 21:05 |
| devananda | ack | 21:05 |
| zaneb | russellb: I'll be out Monday & Tuesday, so I'll find someone to co-ordinate with you on those days | 21:05 |
| russellb | though i won't block anything if they're not ready | 21:05 |
| SergeyLukjanov | there is a good progress on merging sahara-dashboard to horizon, thanks for david-lyle for bumping prio | 21:05 |
| russellb | zaneb: OK, just let me know who | 21:05 |
| devananda | ironic is a bit behind -- we just landed specs for several features targeted to j2 (most of the code was written in parallel) | 21:05 |
| mestery | russellb: ++ | 21:05 |
| dolphm | i also wanted to make everyone aware of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1342274 | 21:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1342274 in neutron "auth_token middleware in keystoneclient is deprecated" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:06 |
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| dolphm | which i alluded to in a keystone 1:1 #info | 21:06 |
| dolphm | basically we've split auth_token into it's own package so keystoneclient doesn't have to carry wsgi deps | 21:06 |
| devananda | dolphm: what should I look for to determine if ironic is affected? I am fairly sure we use that ... | 21:06 |
| ttx | dolphm: would be cool to complete it for juno-2, just in case packagers take it | 21:06 |
| dolphm | so, bknudson is proposing patches to switch everyone over to keystonemiddleware.auth_token | 21:07 |
| eglynn | Brant Knudson is gonna push the changes across all projects? ... nice :) | 21:07 |
| dhellmann | dolphm: does that apply for stable branches, too, or just juno and beyond? | 21:07 |
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| ttx | Brant Knudson wants to vote for all PTLs elections | 21:07 |
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| eglynn | ttx: LOL :) | 21:07 |
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| mikal | Similarly, I've just released a new python-novaclient that should hopefully address Heat's problems (thanks heaps to russellb for the fix) | 21:07 |
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| ttx | ... | 21:07 |
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| dolphm | dhellmann: good question... we shouldn't affect previous stable branches | 21:08 |
| dolphm | erm, net split? | 21:08 |
| ttx | dolphm: yes, but quick one | 21:08 |
| ttx | magnitude 4 | 21:08 |
| dhellmann | dolphm: ok, good | 21:08 |
| devananda | bknudson: are you also proposing updates to incubated projects (eg ironic)? | 21:08 |
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| devananda | bknudson: or have an example somewhere I can copy? | 21:08 |
| ttx | devananda: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102342/ | 21:09 |
| bknudson | devananda: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:keystonemiddleware,n,z | 21:09 |
| dolphm | devananda: you can borrow the approach in nova's patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/102342/ | 21:09 |
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| bknudson | those are the ones that are proposed to the projects I had repos for | 21:09 |
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| devananda | ack | 21:09 |
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| ttx | ok, other highlights from the 1:1 syncs that you want to make ? | 21:09 |
| bknudson | it's generally only a couple of lines... ceilometer had some tests that were using internals of auth_token so had more changes | 21:10 |
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| ttx | #topic Other program news | 21:10 |
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| ttx | Infra, QA, Docs... anything you'd like to mention ? | 21:10 |
| eglynn | bknudson: ... always the wayward child ;) | 21:10 |
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| annegentle | ttx: did I mention already that there's a template for incubating teams for oslosphinx now? | 21:11 |
| ttx | guess not | 21:11 |
| ttx | ah | 21:11 |
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| ttx | annegentle: I.. don't think you did | 21:11 |
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| ttx | annegentle: link? | 21:12 |
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| annegentle | ttx: the configuration is in the oslosphinx README.rst | 21:12 |
| ttx | ok, cool | 21:12 |
| * annegentle looks | 21:12 | |
| dhellmann | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslosphinx | 21:12 |
| annegentle | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslosphinx/tree/README.rst | 21:12 |
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| annegentle | default is non-incubating | 21:13 |
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| annegentle | dhellmann: yeah I had it in one of the What's Up Doc but wanted to be sure people know | 21:13 |
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| dhellmann | annegentle: good idea | 21:13 |
| ttx | #info Expect keystonemiddleware support patches: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1342274 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1342274 in neutron "auth_token middleware in keystoneclient is deprecated" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:13 |
| annegentle | ttx: that's all for now from docs | 21:13 |
| ttx | ok, next topic then | 21:14 |
| ttx | #topic Surprise last-minute blueprints, or code being developed in parallel with specs | 21:14 |
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| ttx | I wanted to reflect back on the -specs experience from the viewpoint of feature predictability | 21:14 |
| ttx | One of the things we want to communicate out is a list of probably incoming features | 21:14 |
| ttx | We do that using the blueprint system, and produce integrated views at http://status.openstack.org/release/ | 21:14 |
| ttx | Which are used by various downstream stakeholders | 21:14 |
| ttx | It's always been difficult to predict correctly, but we must try to make sure this communication represents our best approximation | 21:15 |
| ttx | I was hoping that the -specs process and the "clean" blueprint views (with only spec-approved and priority-set blueprints present in milestone pages) would actually improve our prediction | 21:15 |
| ttx | But it looks like in lots of projects we have the opposite result... | 21:15 |
| annegentle | and you found... ah. | 21:15 |
| ttx | Specs and code are being developed at the same time, so specs approved very late in a milestone can still have code that actually makes it | 21:15 |
| eglynn | ttx: yeap, that's been the reality in my experience | 21:15 |
| devananda | In Ironic, I've seen most of the predictable features being implemented in parallel with the spec | 21:15 |
| ttx | Since unapproved specs do not appear in the milestone pages, this results in last-minute addition of targeted blueprints | 21:15 |
| eglynn | devananda: same in ceilo | 21:15 |
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| devananda | OTOH, the much larger features have benefitted immensely (IMO) from the forethought required by a specs process | 21:16 |
| ttx | So I feel like we actually had better prediction BEFORE, with blueprints appearing on the release radar earlier | 21:16 |
| dolphm | devananda: i would agree with that | 21:16 |
| SlickNik | devananda: That's been my experience with trove as well. | 21:16 |
| russellb | i feel like in nova, it definitely at least throttled blueprint approval | 21:16 |
| dhellmann | devananda: +1 | 21:16 |
| ttx | Do you think it is a systemic issue with the -specs workflow, or just a temporary side-effect until we build a healthy spec/implementation pipeline ? | 21:16 |
| devananda | so things that require a full cycle or more end up with no BP targeted at all for a while | 21:16 |
| eglynn | devananda: maybe apply specs process more selectively? | 21:16 |
| mestery | Some of that has happened in neutron as well | 21:16 |
| mikal | russellb: agreed | 21:16 |
| devananda | actually | 21:16 |
| mikal | I think its also caused a lot of frustration from developers, but got people to focus on some stuff we really needed | 21:16 |
| mestery | ttx: I'd like to think it's a temporary issue as people get used to the specs repo workflow, but maybe I'm just dreaming. | 21:16 |
| mikal | Like the vmware refactor | 21:16 |
| eglynn | i.e. only require for the larger features? | 21:16 |
| devananda | I would really like to be able to target BPs before approving them | 21:16 |
| devananda | it's crazy, i know | 21:16 |
| devananda | but as a way of expressing my intent | 21:17 |
| russellb | mikal: maybe that's just an effect specific to a larger project more overwhelmed with crap blueprint submissions | 21:17 |
| devananda | "I think we should do $this before $that" | 21:17 |
| devananda | even if both are still in the spec process | 21:17 |
| dhellmann | devananda: I did that for planning before the summit | 21:17 |
| russellb | mikal: the throttling (and more realistic roadmap) effect i mean | 21:17 |
| zaneb | ttx: I think launchpad issues will only be fixed by replacing launchpad. specs is just a better place than the wiki/ML to comment on designs | 21:17 |
| devananda | i've used a google doc to capture the results of the summit prioritization meeting we had | 21:17 |
| ttx | devananda: so we could do that... use some weird Launchpad status to track that a spec is actually blocked because it's not approved yet | 21:17 |
| notmyname | seems that -specs are a tool for devs and blueprints are a tool for project managers. which is why -specs have been largely cheered and blueprints largely booed. so I wouldn't expect -specs to solve a project manager problem | 21:17 |
| devananda | notmyname: well said | 21:18 |
| zaneb | notmyname: ++ | 21:18 |
| eglynn | ain't that the truth | 21:18 |
| dolphm | keystone tried to implement a solution to this and sort of fell on our face by overly complicating the -spec process... but the gist was for -specs to be proposed & approved first with ONLY a problem description (no proposed solution) ... seemed like a good idea at the time | 21:18 |
| dolphm | and later move those problem descriptions from a next/ dir to juno/ or whatever with a proposed solution | 21:18 |
| devananda | the real benefit I've seen with specs has been in sussing out the implications of a change | 21:18 |
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| eglynn | dolphm: fell on it's face because it was too subtle a process? | 21:19 |
| dhellmann | we've been slow to approve specs in oslo, but we've definitely caught issues in the process | 21:19 |
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| dolphm | eglynn: added too many extra steps for spec writers, and gerrit diffs weren't terribly useful | 21:19 |
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| ttx | I think we can fix the black hole that we created in Launchpad while still keeping the specs process and retaining LP as a downstream communication tool | 21:19 |
| ttx | for example by using Blocked as a status | 21:19 |
| eglynn | so I think the specs process has differing value depending on the chunkiness and/or radical nature of the proposed change | 21:20 |
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| ttx | to communicate that the spec is expected to be approved but not there yet | 21:20 |
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| russellb | ttx: that sounds like it could work | 21:20 |
| russellb | ttx: or at least proposed and not approved? | 21:20 |
| dhellmann | ttx: there are separate fields for approving the definition and the direction, would it make sense to use those? | 21:21 |
| mestery | ttx: That's what I did with a few BPs to be honest | 21:21 |
| russellb | how would you differentiate between stuff not yet approved and stuff not yet approved, but we think it probably will be soonish | 21:21 |
| mestery | I used blocked for that on a few, but was inconsistent. | 21:21 |
| devananda | ttx: eg, direction:approved, definition:drafting, implementation:blocked, milestone:$something ? | 21:21 |
| dhellmann | "this blueprint identifies a problem we want to fix -- definition approved" vs. "this solution looks like it is correct -- direction approved" | 21:21 |
| ttx | devananda: yes | 21:21 |
| annegentle | dhellmann: that's a really really good point | 21:21 |
| devananda | ttx: +1 | 21:22 |
| ttx | I can tweak spec2bp to facilitate setting the rigth statuses | 21:22 |
| dolphm | does everyone expect a bp to be created first, or a spec? | 21:22 |
| devananda | dolphm: same time | 21:22 |
| eglynn | dolphm: spec first | 21:22 |
| dolphm | devananda: when the spec is proposed or merged? | 21:22 |
| devananda | dolphm: bp should be registered when the spec is proposed | 21:22 |
| mikal | We ask for a URL to the bp in the spec | 21:22 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I had to go rename quite a few bps but the spec is supposed to link to them so they both come into being around the same time | 21:22 |
| devananda | ^ exactly | 21:22 |
| ttx | so spec2bp would set the spec "blocked" while not approved, and clear that when the spec is approved | 21:22 |
| dolphm | mikal: on my latest spec, i just made up an intended url, and opened the bp when the spec was merged :-/ | 21:23 |
| mestery | dolphm: BP then spec, that makes it easier, as the spec includes a link to the BP (at least for neutron) | 21:23 |
| dhellmann | ttx: blocked vs. setting the direction/definition approval separately? | 21:23 |
| ttx | dhellmann: in addition to | 21:23 |
| ttx | spec2bp would help setting all that's needed | 21:23 |
| * dhellmann is going to need new instructions for how to put a bp in a milestone without having it removed | 21:24 | |
| ttx | hehe | 21:24 |
| ttx | dhellmann: the only thing that gets you removed is missing priority | 21:24 |
| dhellmann | ok | 21:24 |
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| ttx | I'll come up with a proposal and tooling to help setting stuff in LP without having to interact with the UI | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | one other thing on spec2bp | 21:25 |
| dhellmann | as I said, I had trouble with names not matching up a few times | 21:25 |
| ttx | I think that will reduce the under-the-radar- flying we seem to have inadvertantly created | 21:25 |
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| dhellmann | can that be made smarter somehow? (not sure how smart we want it to be) | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | maybe look at the link in the spec? | 21:26 |
| ttx | is there always a link in the spec ? | 21:26 |
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| ttx | I can make it follow it when there is one | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | well, we could say that's required | 21:26 |
| russellb | should be, there's a field for it | 21:26 |
| dhellmann | russellb: everyone has a slightly different template, I think, but we can at least agree on that | 21:27 |
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| ttx | it could also support a --bp option to point to right BP when they don't match, but atht would be a bit of a hassle to specify | 21:27 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yeah, I would probably just write myself a wrapper to grep the link out in that case :-) | 21:27 |
| russellb | dhellmann: ah, right ... i was thinking of the other way, the spec field in the blueprint itself | 21:27 |
| russellb | but yeah, standardizing on having a blueprint link in a spec seems quite reasonable | 21:28 |
| ttx | #action ttx to come up with a proposal to use "blocked" in addition to approval fields and tooling to help setting stuff in LP without having to interact with the UI | 21:28 |
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| ttx | #info spec2bp should better support the case where spec and BP names don't match | 21:28 |
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| ttx | I think that will solve the issue | 21:29 |
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| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 21:29 |
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| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 21:30 |
| mikal | Similarly, I've just released a new python-novaclient that should hopefully address Heat's problems (thanks heaps to russellb for the fix) | 21:30 |
| mikal | ^-- repasted from above when I said it mid split | 21:30 |
| ttx | russellb: will you run this meeting next week ? | 21:30 |
| russellb | ttx: sure | 21:30 |
| ttx | russellb: only if you have some use for it, or some agenda posted for it | 21:30 |
| russellb | i don't have anything now ... | 21:31 |
| russellb | ad-hoc syncs around j2 are probably fine | 21:31 |
| russellb | otherwise this meeting will just be old-style, going through each project | 21:31 |
| russellb | let's just skip. | 21:31 |
| ttx | russellb: ok | 21:31 |
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| ttx | #info no meeting next week, contact russellb directly for juno-2 sync | 21:31 |
| russellb | i'll hang out in #openstack-relmgr-office as a convenient place to sync with everyone | 21:32 |
| eglynn | ... and no 1:1s either? | 21:32 |
| devananda | russellb: will you be at the nova sprint? | 21:32 |
| russellb | devananda: yes, but that's the week after | 21:32 |
| devananda | ah, right | 21:32 |
| ttx | eglynn: there will be 1:1 discussions, but not at the scheduled time | 21:32 |
| ttx | eglynn: russellb will contact you directly | 21:32 |
| eglynn | ttx: cool, got it | 21:32 |
| russellb | or you can ping me | 21:33 |
| russellb | pinging will occur. | 21:33 |
| devananda | russellb: i apparently can't keep track of time :) | 21:33 |
| ttx | pinging is a thing | 21:33 |
| ttx | In other news, one more day to vote on K naming | 21:33 |
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| russellb | vote for Kilo! | 21:33 |
| mikal | OMG, yes please | 21:33 |
| mikal | Its time we went metric | 21:34 |
| mestery | ++ | 21:34 |
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| eglynn | russellb: I'm goning to report you for inappropriate attempts influence an election! | 21:34 |
| russellb | :( | 21:34 |
| ttx | on a public forum though! | 21:34 |
| SlickNik | annegentle: We've spent some time identifying holes in the trove docs. We're currently working on fixing these up. | 21:34 |
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| ttx | I rule it as fair campaigning. Unless you encourage voting for Kyoto | 21:34 |
| markwash | its all about kleber | 21:35 |
| SlickNik | annegentle: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-doc-items FYI - wanted to keep you in the loop. | 21:35 |
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| dhellmann | markwash: +1 | 21:35 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann when is the next oslo-messaging release expected? | 21:35 |
| * eglynn would like to get our hands on the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo.messaging/+bug/1342088 | 21:35 | |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1342088 in oslo.messaging "Exchanges lock disregarded in the fake driver implementation" [Low,Fix committed] | 21:35 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: we can make a release tomorrow, let me check with markmc to make sure he's not waiting for something else first | 21:36 |
| eglynn | (may be related to the strange timeout issue we're seeing in a test in ceilo that uses RPC fanout) | 21:36 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: great, thank you sir! | 21:36 |
| * russellb can't wait to get his hands on a Kilo of OpenStack | 21:36 | |
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| eglynn | also seeing as the QA folks are all in conclave this week, might not be the best time to bring this up ... but | 21:37 |
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| eglynn | towards the tail-end of that branchless Tempest ML thread I kicked off after last week's meeting | 21:37 |
| SlickNik | dhellmann: We're also making good progress moving trove to oslo.messaging. (FYI https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94484/) | 21:37 |
| eglynn | ... the wind was blowing in the direction of pushing functional test suites into the individual projects | 21:37 |
| eglynn | e.g. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/040128.html | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: fantastic! :-) | 21:37 |
| ttx | eglynn: it did indeed | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | eglynn: email sent | 21:37 |
| dhellmann | russellb: careful not to make that joke in a US airport | 21:38 |
| russellb | dhellmann: i may be on a list for saying it on IRC | 21:38 |
| dhellmann | russellb: I don't know you. | 21:38 |
| * eglynn wonders if we need some sort of cross-project discussion/aggreement to avoid all rushing off in different directions on that? | 21:38 | |
| russellb | eglynn: +1 | 21:38 |
| SlickNik | dhellmann: esp who's been working on getting it done, tells me he still has a few kinks to work out, but we're looking forward to getting that landed soon. Will keep you posted on the progress on that front. Thanks! | 21:38 |
| russellb | on the need for careful coordination at least :) | 21:38 |
| ttx | eglynn: I hope it will be a topic at the QA sprint | 21:39 |
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| dhellmann | eglynn: is that a topic for a cross-project summit session or are you hoping to have it resolved before then? | 21:39 |
| eglynn | ttx: k, prolly should wait on an explicit report back from the sprint | 21:39 |
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| eglynn | dhellmann: yes, leastways a K* summit session | 21:39 |
| dhellmann | SlickNik: sounds good, thanks for keeping us updated | 21:39 |
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| ttx | eglynn: i feel like the proposal was mostly set up as a strawman, not a fully-formed direction yet | 21:39 |
| ttx | so it should solidify first | 21:40 |
| eglynn | ttx: yes, I got that impression also | 21:40 |
| eglynn | ok, fair nuffski if no one is rushing off the blocks yet | 21:40 |
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| ttx | ok, anything else before we close? | 21:41 |
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| ttx | well, then... | 21:42 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jul 15 21:42:04 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2014/project.2014-07-15-21.03.html | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2014/project.2014-07-15-21.03.txt | 21:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2014/project.2014-07-15-21.03.log.html | 21:42 |
| eglynn | good night all! | 21:42 |
| dhellmann | thanks everyone! | 21:42 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone and good night | 21:42 |
| mestery | bye! | 21:42 |
| russellb | o/ | 21:42 |
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