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| BobBall | Morning matel | 15:00 |
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| BobBall | not sure if john can make it today | 15:00 |
| BobBall | he's at the mid-cycle meetup | 15:00 |
| matel | Good afternoon. | 15:00 |
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| BobBall | And I can't remember Guillaume's nickname to see if he's here! | 15:00 |
| thouveng | o/ | 15:00 |
| matel | Yep. | 15:01 |
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| BobBall | #startmeeting XenAPI | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 12 15:01:10 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is BobBall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:01 | |
| BobBall | Well let's just get started | 15:01 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 15:01 |
| BobBall | I'm sure that John won't mind if I chair this week. | 15:01 |
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| BobBall | OK - first things first is always BPs is it not | 15:01 |
| BobBall | #topic BluePrints | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "BluePrints (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:01 | |
| BobBall | thouveng: what's the latest | 15:01 |
| thouveng | I"m waiting for review :) | 15:02 |
| BobBall | So the patches are finished pending review comments? | 15:02 |
| thouveng | I rebased the patch and bumped plugin version | 15:02 |
| thouveng | I think so | 15:02 |
| BobBall | What was the issue with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67125/ ? | 15:02 |
| BobBall | That had approval | 15:02 |
| BobBall | did it just need a rebase? | 15:02 |
| BobBall | or am I missing something? | 15:03 |
| thouveng | I see it as a trivial rebase but I don't know why it is not approved | 15:03 |
| BobBall | it seems to have had 2 +2's on 5th Feb | 15:03 |
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| BobBall | but never started gate jobs | 15:03 |
| thouveng | I modified the comment s/xenapi/XenAPI | 15:03 |
| thouveng | but otherwise it was a trivial rebased for this one | 15:03 |
| BobBall | Ah - that's a shame | 15:04 |
| BobBall | if you'd left the comment as-was then gerrit would have re-added the two +2's | 15:04 |
| BobBall | and it'd have been trivial to get a core to +A it! | 15:04 |
| BobBall | ah well :) | 15:04 |
| thouveng | Damned | 15:04 |
| BobBall | Maybe try and catch johnthetubaguy or _cerberus_ to see if they would be happy to +A it again | 15:05 |
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| thouveng | And how should I title the patch xenapi or XenAPI or we don't care? | 15:05 |
| thouveng | I saw both | 15:05 |
| BobBall | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63816/ just needs core reviews? | 15:05 |
| BobBall | Ideally XenAPI but I don't think it matters | 15:05 |
| thouveng | yes https://review.openstack.org/#/c/63816/ needs core review | 15:05 |
| BobBall | OK | 15:06 |
| BobBall | this week might be tricky because it's the mid-cycle meetup | 15:06 |
| BobBall | but hopefully the reviews will start again next week | 15:06 |
| thouveng | Ok I see | 15:06 |
| BobBall | Certainly we can prod johnthetubaguy more easily | 15:06 |
| BobBall | Anyway - I'll give them a quick look too and +1 cuz I'm sure I'm happy with them | 15:07 |
| BobBall | OK - any more on BPs? | 15:07 |
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| thouveng | Just check testcases. | 15:07 |
| BobBall | Will do. | 15:07 |
| BobBall | OK | 15:07 |
| thouveng | Thanks :). Nothing more | 15:07 |
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| BobBall | #topic Bugs & QA | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs & QA (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 15:07 | |
| BobBall | matel: do you want to give an update for the logs + thouveng on the CI work? | 15:08 |
| matel | Ah, yes, but I think you did most of the work this week. | 15:08 |
| BobBall | well I'll give my update first then | 15:09 |
| matel | Ok. | 15:09 |
| BobBall | I don't remember if I said last week - we've got a nodepool provisioning VMs in RAX just great now | 15:09 |
| BobBall | They need some tweaks to match matel's expectations, but the theory is proven | 15:09 |
| thouveng | cool | 15:09 |
| BobBall | I've also got a new program up | 15:09 |
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| BobBall | https://github.com/citrix-openstack/openstack-citrix-ci | 15:09 |
| BobBall | Basically it was copied from the netscaler repository | 15:10 |
| BobBall | but the only file that's useful is manage_openstack_gerrit.py | 15:10 |
| BobBall | it uses pygerrit to listen to the gerrit stream, adds test jobs to a mysql DB and walks them through the lifecycle before posting comments on gerrit. | 15:10 |
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| BobBall | It all works! | 15:10 |
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| BobBall | Now we're focused on the integration with actually running the jobs - which is where Mate comes in | 15:10 |
| BobBall | (over to matel :) ) | 15:11 |
| thouveng | Waow, great job | 15:11 |
| matel | Yes, it was set up earlier, so we had some test runs earlier. | 15:11 |
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| matel | The scripts are sitting here: https://github.com/citrix-openstack/xenapi-os-testing | 15:11 |
| matel | At the moment, the only thing is left to execute the official setup script with nodepool, and extract the test runner from the repo above | 15:12 |
| matel | So that Bob's Orchestrator can call that. | 15:12 |
| matel | I think we are really close, Bob, is copying the logs solved? | 15:12 |
| BobBall | With a strong wind it might be starting to post tomorrow... | 15:13 |
| matel | Oooh, slowww. | 15:13 |
| BobBall | if you give me logs on the node then I will copy them | 15:13 |
| BobBall | What I need on the node is: | 15:13 |
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| matel | Okay, so that's gonna be an easy step, okay. | 15:13 |
| BobBall | OK - let me rephrase that... | 15:13 |
| BobBall | What I want is to be able to trigger the test + close the SSH session | 15:13 |
| BobBall | Then I need to poll for a file existing containing the overall result ("Passed" / "Failed" / etc - possibly "Setup failure") | 15:14 |
| matel | Oh, yes, I need to make sure, that whenever we run the test scripts, it will not leave any filedescriptors open. | 15:14 |
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| BobBall | Once that file exists I need to be able to pull logs.tgz and testr_results.html.gz | 15:14 |
| matel | Okay, that sounds me as an extra step, that we need to take care of, but that shouldn't be an issue. | 15:15 |
| BobBall | I don't care about file dsecriptors - surely if I can put the running into the background then it's fine | 15:15 |
| BobBall | Which extra step? | 15:15 |
| BobBall | testr_results? I assume that devstack-gate is creating those? | 15:15 |
| matel | To pack together your tgzs, and create proper status file | 15:15 |
| BobBall | oh drat of course | 15:15 |
| BobBall | I forgot we're not using our test runner any more | 15:15 |
| BobBall | which already has that functionality! | 15:16 |
| BobBall | I'm quite happy to pack it myself if it's easier | 15:16 |
| matel | Anyhow, take it offline, the message for thouveng, is that we are getting really close, We expect to be able to vote within one week. | 15:16 |
| BobBall | Iv'e got paramiko set up so it's easy to run commands over SSH | 15:16 |
| thouveng | Really cool, sounds great. | 15:16 |
| BobBall | Note: We won't be able to _vote_ since stability will need to be proven | 15:16 |
| BobBall | but we will be commenting real soon now. | 15:17 |
| matel | Oh, we can comment. | 15:17 |
| matel | Can't we? | 15:17 |
| BobBall | yeah | 15:17 |
| matel | Yes, so basically, it will mean, that anyone can see the results. | 15:17 |
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| BobBall | exactly | 15:17 |
| matel | And that's important for us. | 15:17 |
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| BobBall | Anyway - good news everybody (please read that in your own head in the voice of Professor Farnsworth) | 15:18 |
| BobBall | #topic Open Discussion | 15:18 |
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| BobBall | Is there anything to talk about here | 15:18 |
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| matel | Not from my side atm | 15:19 |
| BobBall | Good good | 15:19 |
| BobBall | thouveng ? | 15:19 |
| thouveng | Nope. | 15:19 |
| BobBall | Well let's have a nice and short meeting so we can all get back to the grindstone then! | 15:19 |
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| thouveng | I'm waiting for review and trying to make some review on my side | 15:19 |
| BobBall | yes - I saw your reviews thouveng - thanks for doing that! Very useful! | 15:20 |
| thouveng | I'm trying :) | 15:20 |
| BobBall | Anyway - See you next week. Same bat time, same bat channel. | 15:20 |
| BobBall | #endmeeting | 15:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 12 15:20:39 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-02-12-15.01.html | 15:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-02-12-15.01.txt | 15:20 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2014/xenapi.2014-02-12-15.01.log.html | 15:20 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan SridarK gduan yisun there? | 18:01 |
| SridarK | Hi SumitNaiksatam: | 18:01 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok lets get started | 18:01 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am haiving trouble with my IRC client | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so i am on webchat | 18:02 |
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| garyduan | Hi | 18:02 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | will have to type more | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #startmeeting Networking FWaaS | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 12 18:02:50 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SumitNaiksatam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_fwaas' | 18:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: hi | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | lets start with your patch | 18:03 |
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| RajeshMohan | Hi all | 18:03 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic service_type framework | 18:03 |
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| garyduan | Regarding Eugene's comment | 18:03 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: i think we are stuck with enikanorov's comment | 18:04 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: can you ping him again? | 18:04 |
| garyduan | SumitNaiksatam: I can | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: we really need to move on now | 18:04 |
| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: gate is also doing better now, and RajeshMohan is waiting on this patch | 18:05 |
| garyduan | SumitNaiksatam: another option is to add upgrade to associate existing fw to default provider | 18:05 |
| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: can you set up an IRC meeting with enikanorov to discuss this? | 18:05 |
| garyduan | SumitNaiksatam: OK | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | did the other folks get a chance to review garyduan's patch? | 18:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | lets give our suggestions at the earliest so we wrap up the patch | 18:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: separately lets try to ping nachi again as well | 18:07 |
| garyduan | SumitNaiksatam: sure | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: he has a similar patch for VPNaaS, so as long as we are in sync he should be fine for this as well | 18:08 |
| garyduan | SumitNaiksatam: right | 18:08 |
| SumitNaiksatam | sorry forgot to add link to patch | 18:09 |
| ivoks | dem doma | 18:09 |
| pcm_ | I have a client side patchf or STF | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60699 | 18:09 |
| ivoks | sigh :) | 18:09 |
| pcm_ | to go with Nachi's patch | 18:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: ok | 18:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: are you find with garyduan's patch ^^^ | 18:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *fine | 18:10 |
| pcm_ | Just joined in, what's the link(sorry)? | 18:10 |
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| enikanorov | SumitNaiksatam: garyduan hi | 18:11 |
| enikanorov | i'm just walking by. how can i help? | 18:11 |
| garyduan | pcm_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60699 | 18:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: thanks for joining, we are waiting on you for: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60699 | 18:11 |
| garyduan | enikanorov: we are talking about the fwaas service framework patch | 18:11 |
| pcm_ | garyduan: thanks. I'll look at it. | 18:12 |
| enikanorov | ah, ok, yep, I have to say something on this | 18:12 |
| enikanorov | let me quickly go over the comments | 18:12 |
| garyduan | enikanorov: regarding yours and Sumit's comments | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: thanks, we need to make a move on this patch since others a waiting on this | 18:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | *are | 18:12 |
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| enikanorov | ok, so you think it's fine because of experimental status. i'm ok with that | 18:13 |
| enikanorov | i'll remove -1 | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: yeah, i dont think this in production anywhere yet (happy to be corrected) | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: so migration would not be a concern to me | 18:13 |
| enikanorov | and also we're now discussing flavors with markmcclain and salv-orlando, i think it will eventually take place of providers | 18:13 |
| SumitNaiksatam | what does the rest of the FWaaS team think | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: good to know, please include me in that discussion | 18:14 |
| pcm_ | SumitNaiksatam: is the FWaaS STF in-line with the VPNaaS patches? | 18:14 |
| garyduan | enikanorov: just a name change? | 18:14 |
| enikanorov | yeah, it has just started but i think it going to have some implications | 18:14 |
| enikanorov | garyduan: not really | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: while we still have STF, we would like to make sure FWaaS is compliant | 18:14 |
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| enikanorov | it's much more flexible and complex thing | 18:14 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: we can eventually migrate along with the other services whenever they move to the new flavors or whatever it ends up being | 18:15 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: my understanding is yes | 18:15 |
| enikanorov | SumitNaiksatam: i understand. I think i'll just write an email with the problem overview and you will decide if you want to move forward with STF or wait for flavors | 18:15 |
| pcm_ | SumitNaiksatam: cool | 18:15 |
| garyduan | enikanorov: I think, it was mentioned in HK meeting, but like to know the detail | 18:16 |
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| enikanorov | garyduan: flavors is something that was proposed at least a year ago | 18:16 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: so we have to go with STF, you are +1 for the current patch? | 18:16 |
| enikanorov | (with a bit different name may be) | 18:16 |
| enikanorov | but no one closely worked on this | 18:16 |
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| enikanorov | service type fw, 'providers' is a simplistic implementation of this | 18:17 |
| enikanorov | SumitNaiksatam: i'll need to look closer to give +1 (i remember i found no issues except migration) | 18:17 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: ok, if you can take a few minutes at the earliest, would be much appreciated | 18:18 |
| enikanorov | sure i will | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov: great thanks | 18:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | garyduan: anything else to discuss on this patch? | 18:19 |
| garyduan | no | 18:19 |
| garyduan | Thanks enikanorov and pcm_ | 18:19 |
| pcm_ | np | 18:19 |
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| pcm_ | do you guys have a corresponding client side change out for review? | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: no | 18:20 |
| SumitNaiksatam | rather, not yet | 18:20 |
| garyduan | pcm_: what is client side change? | 18:20 |
| pcm_ | For VPNaaS we needed change to neutronclient too... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53602/1 | 18:21 |
| garyduan | pcm_: OK | 18:21 |
| garyduan | pcm_: not for service framework | 18:21 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: we can add similar functionality for FWaaS as well, once server side patch is in | 18:22 |
| pcm_ | yeah, just giving heads up | 18:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | pcm_: thanks | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:22 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Service Insertion and Firewall | 18:23 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62599 | 18:23 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: you rebased the patch | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks! | 18:24 |
| RajeshMohan | I am working on the agent and driver side now | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: are you on track to respond to the review comments? | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: great | 18:24 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: agent and driver side changes are hopefully not too many, right? | 18:25 |
| RajeshMohan | I have not closely looked at review comments | 18:25 |
| RajeshMohan | (since it is still WIP) | 18:25 |
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| RajeshMohan | I know I have to add unit tests to remove -2 from you | 18:25 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: i think if the agent and driver side changes are small, they can all be in the same patch, no need to split further | 18:25 |
| RajeshMohan | Are there any other major comments | 18:25 |
| RajeshMohan | Ofcourse | 18:26 |
| RajeshMohan | THat is the plan | 18:26 |
| RajeshMohan | Next patch will have agent and driver changes | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: nice | 18:26 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: as for comments, I dont think my comments on the validation have been fully addressed | 18:27 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: Can you remove -2 and put -1 | 18:27 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: we went back and forth several times on this | 18:27 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: Ok. | 18:27 |
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| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: I will go through the comments again. I deferred some to do it as part service-tyep framework | 18:27 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: I believe we left at the point where you were going to fix it (after rebasing) | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: yeah | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on to the client/CLI | 18:28 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: hi | 18:28 |
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| SridarK | The thought on the CLI is something like: | 18:28 |
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| SridarK | neutron firewall-create <policy-id> --service-context routers=<router-uuid- list> networks=<ne-uuid-tlist> subnets=<subnet-uuid-list> ports=<ports-uuid-list> | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: that looks okay | 18:29 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: it will be more like: | 18:29 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | firewall-create <policy-id> [--service-context [routers=<router-uuid- list>] [networks=<ne-uuid-tlist>] [subnets=<subnet-uuid-list> ports=<ports-uuid-list>]] | 18:31 |
| SridarK | yes ofcourse | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: meant to indicate that the context is optional | 18:31 |
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| SridarK | absoultely that was the intent | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: and that when the context is specified, not all types are required | 18:31 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: yeah i am sure you meant that | 18:31 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: just wanted to clarify my understanding | 18:32 |
| SridarK | yes, i have some json dumps from RajeshMohan: | 18:32 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan, garyduan: does that look ok? | 18:32 |
| SridarK | so will get a patch pushed out in the next couple of days | 18:32 |
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| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: Just to highlight - it slightly deviates from outPI design. IN API, the list of insertion types (routers, ports) can be anything by changing validtors (without changing API). But CLI has to change if we introduce a new type of insertion | 18:32 |
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| RajeshMohan | s/outPI/our API | 18:33 |
| garyduan | SumitNaiksatam: looks fine | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: thats correct, in the CLI we are more explicit, but that's the client side | 18:33 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: Just wanted to make sure that is ok | 18:33 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: we would ideally like it to be more user friendly | 18:33 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: i believe the other option would be not to have, say, "routers=...", but i think its better to be more explicit | 18:34 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: there used to be some quirks when having to specify a list of values | 18:35 |
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| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: I agree with the current CLI. Just wanted to bring it up so that it is recorded that we discussed this. | 18:35 |
| SridarK | ok rather than a single value ? | 18:35 |
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| SridarK | on each option ? | 18:35 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: i think we have some convention when we specifying the firewall rule ids for a firewall policy | 18:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: I would tend to think we can follow that convention | 18:36 |
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| SridarK | ok sounds good - will look at that FW Rules list SumitNaiksatam:: | 18:37 |
| SridarK | Thanks | 18:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: thanks | 18:37 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: do we anticipate devstack changes? | 18:37 |
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| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: I am hoping to avoid it | 18:37 |
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| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: If insertion type is not specified, then insert it on all | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: so default will still be on all routers? | 18:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i think we discussed that | 18:38 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: If someone can update devstack, htat will be great | 18:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: i can update devstack, just let me know what you have in mind | 18:39 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: I am not sure if there is any change required. | 18:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: ok good | 18:40 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: Netork issues on my side. I am gettising refresed late | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think based on the tempest tests, we might need to, in case we want fwaas to be inserted as a part of the devstack process | 18:41 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and don't want to be on all routers | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: no worries | 18:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: so we will have a CLI patch by friday :-) | 18:41 |
| SridarK | Will certainly shoot for that. :-) | 18:42 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: yes, but config tells where it needs to be inserted. So, I am not sure where the no devstack changes | 18:42 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: also can we remove the WIP on your patch by this friday? | 18:42 |
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| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: I will try. Unit tests will most likely not be complete | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: as long as you have some UT, it should be fine, there will always be a case for adding more | 18:43 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: But I will do my best to get it done by Friday | 18:43 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: Ok. | 18:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: with some UTs, and the patch out of WIP, people will feel more comfortable about reviewing | 18:44 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: and without -2 :-) | 18:44 |
| SridarK | :-) | 18:44 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: yeah, i will remove, i wanted to make sure that the comment regarding the validation etc are not missed | 18:45 |
| SridarK | it seems RajeshMohan: is hurt by the -2 ;-) | 18:45 |
| RajeshMohan | SumitNaiksatam: I will add validators in reference implementation context and then you can remove that | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan: thanks | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | SridarK: i will be more careful :-P | 18:45 |
| SridarK | :-) | 18:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anything else on this? | 18:46 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok moving on | 18:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #topic Service Objects | 18:47 |
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| beyounn | ok | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: hi | 18:47 |
| beyounn | I'm working on the FW side of changes | 18:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: great | 18:47 |
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| beyounn | I may need to ping Rajesh for help when I update iptable part | 18:48 |
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| beyounn | but for now, I removed WIP from current review request | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: ok, do we have a chance of targeting this for I3? | 18:48 |
| beyounn | since it has passed both unit test and tempest | 18:48 |
| RajeshMohan | beyounn: you can send me email and we can discuss | 18:48 |
| beyounn | Sumit:When will be I3? | 18:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: ok cool, i saw the update a few days back | 18:48 |
| beyounn | Rajesh: Thanks | 18:49 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: lets keep at least the rest of the team also in the loop on that discussion | 18:49 |
| beyounn | Sumit:sure | 18:49 |
| beyounn | Also, | 18:49 |
| beyounn | enikanorov has reviewed it, for everyone else, please also help to take a look | 18:50 |
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| beyounn | Since this is the first time I'm writing python, so more feedback is better | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: milestones: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Icehouse_Release_Schedule | 18:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i believe its march 4th | 18:50 |
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| beyounn | Sumit: That could be hard | 18:51 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: ok | 18:51 |
| beyounn | Ok, I'm done | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: whatever you are comfortable with | 18:51 |
| beyounn | Sumit: thanks | 18:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: we would need corresponding CLI/client patch also for this (eventually) | 18:52 |
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| beyounn | I had CLI as well | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #topic general discussion | 18:52 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: ok | 18:52 |
| beyounn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69171/ | 18:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | oh thanks, i missed that | 18:52 |
| beyounn | Sumit: Please take a look | 18:52 |
| beyounn | Since no one has review it yet | 18:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | beyounn: but i think we first need to review and feel more comfortable about the server side patch | 18:53 |
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| beyounn | Sumit: Sure | 18:53 |
| beyounn | enikanorov: are you still there? | 18:53 |
| enikanorov | beyounn: yes | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so in terms of order of priority of reviews for our team, can i request that we first review garyduan's patch: | 18:54 |
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| enikanorov | what is it (sorry, i'm not following the meeting) | 18:54 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60699 | 18:54 |
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| beyounn | enikanorov: could you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67784/ again | 18:54 |
| beyounn | thanks | 18:54 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | can i request all FWaaS team members to review garyduan's patch first? | 18:55 |
| beyounn | Sumit: Sure | 18:55 |
| SridarK | will do | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | second priority will be RajeshMohan's service insertion patch: | 18:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62599 | 18:55 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | meanwhile hopefully SridarK will have his CLI patch as well, and we can review that | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | subsequently, we beyounn should be ready with his patch: | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/67784 | 18:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | and we can review that | 18:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | i am not suggesting that we do this sequentially, but in terms of priority i am proposing this as the plan to requests patches getting merged | 18:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have pretty much been working on these lines just restating it | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats pretty much it from me | 18:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #info feature proposal freeze deadline is feb 18th | 18:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | everyone is good otherwise? | 18:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | ok seems like :-) | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | lets wrap up | 18:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 19:00 |
| SridarK | ok bye all | 19:00 |
| RajeshMohan | Bye all | 19:00 |
| pcm_ | bye | 19:00 |
| SumitNaiksatam | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 12 19:00:13 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2014/networking_fwaas.2014-02-12-18.02.html | 19:00 |
| garyduan | Bye | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2014/networking_fwaas.2014-02-12-18.02.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_fwaas/2014/networking_fwaas.2014-02-12-18.02.log.html | 19:00 |
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| notmyname | swift team meeting time | 19:00 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 19:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 12 19:01:17 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 19:01 |
| notmyname | welcome to the first weekly swift team meeting. who's here? | 19:01 |
| portante | o/ | 19:01 |
| torgomatic | <- | 19:01 |
| peluse | yo | 19:01 |
| cschwede_ | o/ | 19:01 |
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| gvernik | hello | 19:02 |
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| tdasilva | hello | 19:02 |
| notmyname | I think we've got a pretty full schedule for today (potentially) | 19:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 19:02 |
| tgohad | Hi John | 19:02 |
| creiht | \o/ | 19:02 |
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| notmyname | creiht is excited! | 19:03 |
| creiht | heh | 19:03 |
| peluse | touchdown | 19:03 |
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| notmyname | mostly today I want to talk about storage policy status and python-swiftclient status | 19:03 |
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| notmyname | but first | 19:03 |
| notmyname | #topic summit CFP due this week | 19:04 |
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| notmyname | #link http://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/call-for-speakers/ | 19:04 |
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| notmyname | if you are wanting to submit a talk for the conference section of the summit in atlanta, friday is your deadline | 19:04 |
| notmyname | at the link above | 19:04 |
| notmyname | all you need by friday is an abstract, so it's not too hard to do | 19:05 |
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| creiht | "Openstack, the good parts" | 19:05 |
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| creiht | >:) | 19:05 |
| notmyname | and if you want to submit something about swift (and who doesn't?), then I'd be happy to help you do that. but I'd like to see what you have by the end of today | 19:05 |
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| notmyname | I know there will be talk submissions for quite a few things. but the mroe the merrier :-) | 19:06 |
| portante | fwiw, been talking to notmyname about a workshop on object server backends | 19:06 |
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| notmyname | that's one of them :-) | 19:06 |
| portante | would like others to participate and help with it | 19:06 |
| notmyname | portante: for which I'll be bugging you later today :-) | 19:06 |
| peluse | portante: I can help, sure | 19:07 |
| portante | k | 19:07 |
| portante | thx, peluse | 19:07 |
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| peluse | also FYI notmyname and I are putting a few out there including, of course, a talk on policies and EC :) | 19:07 |
| notmyname | yay | 19:07 |
| notmyname | we're also building a test cluster for CI integration (eg let's do automatic probe tests on a real cluster!) and submitting a talk on that | 19:08 |
| creiht | notmyname: I don't think I will be submitting a talk this time | 19:09 |
| notmyname | creiht: I liked your idea above ;-) | 19:09 |
| creiht | heh | 19:09 |
| notmyname | so to sum up, friday is your deadline. if you are working with someone else, try to have it done today so you can sleep on it, polish it tomorrow, and be in before the deadline | 19:09 |
| notmyname | for the tech tracks, the CFP will come later | 19:10 |
| notmyname | any questions on the summit? | 19:10 |
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| notmyname | ok, moving on | 19:10 |
| notmyname | #topic storage policies status | 19:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "storage policies status (Meeting topic: swift)" | 19:10 | |
| notmyname | this could be a big one | 19:10 |
| peluse | a big topic? | 19:11 |
| notmyname | before getting updates from peluse torgomatic and portante | 19:11 |
| notmyname | ya, maybe | 19:11 |
| notmyname | I've updated https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 19:11 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/PriorityReviews | 19:11 |
| notmyname | I've added a few dates to the storage policies. nothing new to the people who have been working on it, but these are pretty much what will keep us on track for getting it in icehouse | 19:11 |
| peluse | I like the new queries up there.... cool | 19:12 |
| notmyname | thanks, torgomatic for the new review links :-) | 19:12 |
| notmyname | importantly, I'd like to see all the final patches proposed into gerrit by friday (yes, that means we're just a little behind so far) | 19:12 |
| notmyname | the trello board tracking storage policies is at https://trello.com/b/LlvIFIQs/swift-erasure-codes-and-storage-policies | 19:12 |
| notmyname | #link https://trello.com/b/LlvIFIQs/swift-erasure-codes-and-storage-policies | 19:12 |
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| notmyname | and you can see that peluse and torgomatic have some patches up for review now | 19:13 |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:feature/ec+AND+-status:workinprogress+AND+status:open,n,z | 19:13 |
| notmyname | (lots of links!!!) | 19:13 |
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| notmyname | so the final pieces of functionality for storage policies on the feature/ec branch are (1) rolled up accounting and (2) policy reconciler | 19:14 |
| peluse | yup | 19:14 |
| notmyname | peluse: torgomatic: is that correct? can you give an update on the status? | 19:14 |
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| peluse | acct rollup: good progress (thanks to copying off of torgomatic's paper) | 19:14 |
| peluse | I expect *maybe* Fri but could be next week.... | 19:14 |
| notmyname | ok | 19:15 |
| peluse | will try | 19:15 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: reconciler? | 19:15 |
| torgomatic | the patches in Gerrit now are the foundation for the reconciler; you can't move misplaced objects unless you know they're misplaced, and that's what you get with my patch series | 19:15 |
| torgomatic | reconciler itself is still highly theoretical :) | 19:16 |
| peluse | nice :) | 19:16 |
| notmyname | small matter of typing left to do? | 19:16 |
| torgomatic | a bit | 19:16 |
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| peluse | torgomatic: what do we do with James's 'Preserving older storage policies'? | 19:16 |
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| torgomatic | peluse: I don't know how usable that is now that the policy index isn't in the metadata... I'll take a look | 19:17 |
| peluse | K | 19:17 |
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| notmyname | any questions about storage policies or the plan there? | 19:18 |
| notmyname | ok then :-) | 19:19 |
| notmyname | then on to python-swiftclient | 19:19 |
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| notmyname | #topic python-swiftclient status | 19:19 |
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| notmyname | chmouel: around? | 19:19 |
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| notmyname | big changes have been happening here | 19:19 |
| chmouel | notmyname: yeah just arrived :) | 19:19 |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/69187/ | 19:20 |
| notmyname | that's the patch to port swiftclient to requests | 19:20 |
| chmouel | I think requests is good to go as far goes my testing and revieweing | 19:20 |
| chmouel | the port of swiftclient to requests indeed | 19:20 |
| notmyname | and we just landed the change to stop swift itslef from depending on swiftclient | 19:20 |
| chmouel | that's correct | 19:20 |
| chmouel | i think we should start merge this and do a release straight away | 19:20 |
| notmyname | which means that py3 support in python-swiftclient can start happening | 19:20 |
| chmouel | to 2.0 | 19:20 |
| notmyname | requests or py3? | 19:21 |
| chmouel | notmyname: requests | 19:21 |
| chmouel | and put in announcement that we will start reviewing the py3 support | 19:21 |
| notmyname | right. that's the plan, IMO | 19:21 |
| chmouel | +1 | 19:21 |
| notmyname | I think it makes sense to start py3 patches after a 2.0 release | 19:21 |
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| chmouel | we will have to do some reconciling since a lot of those patches are conflicting with each others | 19:21 |
| notmyname | so what I want to do is get requests port landed and then tag HEAD~1 as the last 1.X release | 19:21 |
| notmyname | to wrap us all that | 19:22 |
| notmyname | then tag the reqeusts port as 2.0 | 19:22 |
| notmyname | and then move on the py3 changes | 19:22 |
| chmouel | perfect plan IMO | 19:22 |
| notmyname | that way we don't get the py3 dependencies into a 1.x series without actually having full py3 support | 19:22 |
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| notmyname | any questions or alternate suggestions or concerns? | 19:22 |
| notmyname | you guys are making this easy :-) | 19:23 |
| portante | thanks | 19:23 |
| torgomatic | as long as we don't start talking about py3 for Swift before eventlet or gevent sorts itself out, I'm happy | 19:23 |
| torgomatic | swiftclient is A-OK | 19:23 |
| notmyname | +1 | 19:23 |
| notmyname | #topic s3 DiskFile | 19:24 |
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| notmyname | marcusvrn: around? this was a topic that has your name on it | 19:24 |
| erlon | ok, so we started to work with in a code that implements a s3 backend to swift. | 19:24 |
| marcusvrn | hi | 19:24 |
| portante | cool | 19:24 |
| notmyname | interesting | 19:24 |
| erlon | working but didn't used the Diskfile API, so we are porting the code to use the API | 19:24 |
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| notmyname | seems like an alternative way to do the container migration patch | 19:25 |
| notmyname | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64430/ | 19:25 |
| erlon | hopefully we can make it ready to icehouse | 19:25 |
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| torgomatic | I dunno; being able to import data from external sources seems very different from using another object storage system as a backend | 19:25 |
| portante | happy to help in anyway I can | 19:25 |
| chmouel | i think it has other benefits than just migration right? | 19:25 |
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| notmyname | in general I like the idea of migration. I don't really like the idea of "Swift as an abstraction for other object storage systems" | 19:26 |
| erlon | portante: yes, if you can give us a hand in this next days we will reaally apreciate :) | 19:26 |
| notmyname | (to torgomatic's point) | 19:26 |
| * torgomatic isn't a big fan of Swift turning into an API translation layer | 19:26 | |
| gvernik | data migration is about to import data into swift from other sources... | 19:26 |
| erlon | there still are some obscure areas that we can't figure aout | 19:26 |
| creiht | "Swift as an abstraction for * storage systems" | 19:26 |
| creiht | :) | 19:26 |
| creiht | well we kind of opened that can of worms with diskfile | 19:27 |
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| notmyname | creiht: well the point of swift is to abstract volumes as an object storage system. not to abstract any arbitrary storage engine | 19:27 |
| chmouel | agreed | 19:27 |
| notmyname | creiht: so I disagree about DiskFile opening that can of worms | 19:28 |
| creiht | I'm not against people doing it, but I don't think it should be in core swift | 19:28 |
| portante | I am not sure I follow all the concerns | 19:28 |
| * torgomatic can't wait for the bug reports saying that users can't tag S3 buckets when using Swift as an API translation layer | 19:28 | |
| creiht | notmyname: I'm just saying by making the abstraction, you invite these type of ideas | 19:29 |
| portante | can somebody enumerate what might cause a problem? | 19:29 |
| creiht | perhaps another question might be, will the gluster diskfile plugin be part of openstack swift? | 19:30 |
| notmyname | creiht: ya. that is true. and I agree that they generally should not be in swift's codebase | 19:30 |
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| notmyname | creiht: imo no | 19:30 |
| creiht | right | 19:30 |
| erlon | one thing I can see is the way that files appear on s3 | 19:30 |
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| torgomatic | portante: as a quick first pass, Swift provides eventual consistency atop immediately-consistent backends (a/c/o). Sticking eventual consistency in the object server seems like it'll introduce all sorts of intermittent troubles | 19:30 |
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| erlon | just hashes, which makes would make the s3 storage unsuable without swift | 19:30 |
| portante | torgomatic: well stated | 19:30 |
| torgomatic | I don't have a specific bug in mind, but my spidey-sense is tingling like mad | 19:30 |
| portante | did you make it into the next movie? | 19:31 |
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| torgomatic | :) | 19:31 |
| creiht | there will always be an impedence mismatch | 19:31 |
| creiht | same as with swift3 | 19:31 |
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| creiht | either way, this seems simple for me, it just lives outside of swift | 19:31 |
| creiht | I can see people wanting to use it | 19:31 |
| notmyname | it's the same general idea to me as "let's write a DiskFile to put Swift on top of our proprietary SAN device that also includes some distributed filesystem". not something that should be in swift itself | 19:31 |
| notmyname | creiht: yes, exactly | 19:32 |
| torgomatic | creiht: yeah, and I'm no great fan of that one either ;) | 19:32 |
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| creiht | torgomatic: lol, well when you create a plugin system you can't control what plugs into it :) | 19:32 |
| chmouel | i don't think i want to see swift becoming like neutron with drivers not maintained | 19:32 |
| cschwede_ | chmouel: +1 | 19:32 |
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| creiht | chmouel: they have that even with drivers in the core tree :) | 19:32 |
| torgomatic | creiht: true, but I can try to control what plugins make it into the Swift tree | 19:33 |
| notmyname | chmouel: but isnt' the problem with drivers that are in the repo? | 19:33 |
| creiht | torgomatic: absolutely, which is what I'm arguing for as well | 19:33 |
| chmouel | notmyname: yeah that's the problem | 19:33 |
| chmouel | notmyname: i'm good with having a plugin system in core swift and driver staying outside | 19:33 |
| notmyname | chmouel: so I don't think we'll get there. ie we won't be accepting many "drivers" into the swift tree | 19:33 |
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| notmyname | chmouel: I think we're all in agreement | 19:34 |
| creiht | cool | 19:34 |
| denis_cavalcante | Well, maybe is a positive point: s3 backend could increase the adoption of the openstack/swift softly... and if it is inside, it can | 19:34 |
| notmyname | FWIW, I'd like to see the migration containers functionality in core swift :-) | 19:34 |
| creiht | tons of people run with swift3, and it is outside the codebase | 19:34 |
| denis_cavalcante | and if it is inside, it can smooth the deployment | 19:34 |
| * portante 's head spins | 19:35 | |
| chmouel | notmyname: yeah i'd like to spend some time reviewing it | 19:35 |
| notmyname | denis_cavalcante: yes, I agree (especially with your 2nd statement) | 19:35 |
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| creiht | if it is just a manner of adding a piece of middleware, I'm not sure how being inside or outside swift makes much of a difference | 19:35 |
| notmyname | it's something that must be weighed | 19:36 |
| notmyname | creiht: I think it's the "Defaults matter" idea. | 19:36 |
| gholt | Being outside means you can work on it faster. ;) | 19:36 |
| notmyname | true :-) | 19:36 |
| creiht | hah | 19:36 |
| notmyname | but being inside means more people will be able to use it | 19:36 |
| creiht | notmyname: but if it were in swift, I would also think that it wouldn't be a default | 19:36 |
| notmyname | I think that's all denis_cavalcante is saying | 19:36 |
| gholt | I'm not sure I want a bunch of users that don't know how to install stuff. It's pretty easy to find outside stuff. We have a whole section for it in the docs. | 19:37 |
| chmouel | creiht: yeah but somebody would need to commit to maintain it in the long term | 19:37 |
| creiht | chmouel: I don't want to maintain it inside swift ;) | 19:37 |
| torgomatic | chmouel: +1 on that; I don't want to be responsible for maintaining an S3 translation layer | 19:37 |
| gholt | I won't be. :D | 19:38 |
| creiht | haha | 19:38 |
| notmyname | ok, I think we're not really arguing about anything. we all feel the same way from what I can see. I think we should move on | 19:38 |
| antonioc | actually, hybrid cloud environments are a good options for a lot of companies that doesn't have enough infrastructure, so supporting an S3 backend would be great for it | 19:38 |
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| notmyname | nobody denies that people use S3 or that S3 affects Swift's adoption | 19:39 |
| chmouel | antonioc: i agree, but that doesn't mean it need to be shipped with core swift? | 19:39 |
| lifeless | antonioc: there are lots of OpenStack public cloud providers | 19:39 |
| notmyname | but actually running swift on top of s3 is something that no core dev wants to support ins wift's source tree | 19:39 |
| notmyname | although we'd all support that functionality being available in the ecosystem | 19:40 |
| notmyname | (from what I can tell by the conversation) | 19:40 |
| creiht | yes | 19:40 |
| chmouel | +1 | 19:40 |
| steveisoft | where does it belong if not in core swift? | 19:40 |
| torgomatic | yup | 19:40 |
| tdasilva | that's the idea behind having the plugin system, right? | 19:40 |
| creiht | steveisoft: github | 19:40 |
| creiht | :) | 19:40 |
| gholt | Heh, I didn't realize we were still talking about that. Thought we were talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64430/ now, heh. | 19:41 |
| chmouel | or stackforge | 19:41 |
| notmyname | I want to move on to current outstanding patches | 19:41 |
| notmyname | #topic review queue | 19:42 |
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| antonioc | yeap, but S3 would be just one more interface or option... amazon is one of the greatest public cloud providers, it wouldn't be bad to have some support to that | 19:42 |
| erlon | notmyname: what's is the impact of supportin s3 as an API, like swift API? it seems to me an option too | 19:42 |
| * gholt just got caught up by creiht | 19:42 | |
| creiht | antonioc: we aren't saying that it shouldn't be an option, just not part of core | 19:42 |
| chmouel | erlon, antonioc: perhaps let's talk about that in #openstack-swift? | 19:42 |
| creiht | just like the s3 api compat layer isn't part of swift core | 19:42 |
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| chmouel | so the review queu | 19:43 |
| torgomatic | so, what about the review queue? | 19:43 |
| torgomatic | hehe | 19:43 |
| notmyname | torgomatic's links he provided last week have been a good help | 19:43 |
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| notmyname | pathes with one core review: | 19:43 |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/-owner:notmyname+AND+-reviewer:notmyname+AND+status:open+AND+(project:openstack/swift+OR+project:openstack/python-swiftclient+OR+project:openstack/swift-bench+OR+project:openstack/object-api)+AND+CodeReview%252B2+AND+Verified%252B1+AND+-Verified-1+AND+-CodeReview-2+AND+-Approved%252B1,n,z | 19:43 |
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| notmyname | patches with no core reviews: | 19:44 |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/-reviewer:torgomatic+AND+-reviewer:notmyname+AND+-reviewer:gholt+AND+-reviewer:peter-a-portante+AND+-reviewer:darrellb+AND+-reviewer:chmouel+AND+-reviewer:clay-gerrard+AND+-reviewer:zaitcev+AND+-reviewer:david-goetz+AND+-reviewer:cthier+AND+-reviewer:redbo+AND+-reviewer:greglange+AND+status:open+AND+-status:workinprogress+AND+(project:openstack/swift+OR+project:openstack/python-swiftclient+OR+project:o | 19:44 |
| notmyname | penstack/swift-bench),n,z | 19:44 |
| notmyname | fun | 19:44 |
| chmouel | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71224/ is the easiest review someone can do | 19:44 |
| torgomatic | of course , s/owner:notmyname/owner:$ME/g | 19:44 |
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| creiht | chmouel: did you add tests for that? | 19:44 |
| creiht | ;) | 19:44 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: both of those should be generic :-) | 19:44 |
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| chmouel | creiht: that's a good point we need to sort the bin/swift tests like we do in swift.cli stuff | 19:45 |
| cschwede_ | chmouel: working on it :) | 19:45 |
| chmouel | cschwede_: nice :) | 19:45 |
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| notmyname | that's good to see | 19:45 |
| notmyname | the bin scripts have had no tests for far too long | 19:45 |
| notmyname | cschwede_: chmouel: there's actually something about that I want to talk to you about in -swift later | 19:46 |
| cschwede_ | notmyname: ok, will be there | 19:46 |
| notmyname | so ingeneral, our review queue is somewhat shorter now, so that's nice | 19:47 |
| chmouel | notmyname: I think for reviews gvernik was asking about the container migration status (and you as well) | 19:47 |
| notmyname | most of my time has been spend on summit abstracts and storage policy/swiftclient stuff | 19:47 |
| chmouel | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/64430/ | 19:47 |
| notmyname | chmouel: gvernik: I don't have anything else to add that I didn't say earlier :-) I like the idea a lot | 19:48 |
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| chmouel | i'd spend some time to commit into it since i like the idea as well | 19:49 |
| chmouel | *to commit review time | 19:49 |
| notmyname | what about the account-to-account copy patch? who's looked at it? | 19:49 |
| gholt | < | 19:49 |
| portante | I looked at it briefly | 19:49 |
| notmyname | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72157/ | 19:49 |
| torgomatic | I took a pass at it once; I need to go back and look again | 19:49 |
| chmouel | cschwede_: as well i think | 19:49 |
| cschwede_ | notmyname: me, works so far for me and looks good | 19:49 |
| notmyname | looking at the comments, it seems to be on track | 19:49 |
| gholt | That one's been going reasonably fast, with feedback loops | 19:50 |
| notmyname | cleaning up the API issues | 19:50 |
| * portante is sorry that he has not had more time these past few weeks to work on swift code reviews | 19:50 | |
| creiht | interesting correlation that the queue is shorter, and portante hasn't been reviewing | 19:50 |
| creiht | ;) | 19:50 |
| chmouel | heh heh | 19:50 |
| chmouel | burn | 19:50 |
| portante | wow | 19:50 |
| notmyname | ouch | 19:50 |
| portante | thanks creiht | 19:50 |
| portante | I can take a hint | 19:51 |
| notmyname | correlation doesn't mean causation :-) | 19:51 |
| creiht | of course we know that correlation != caustaion :) | 19:51 |
| portante | ;) | 19:51 |
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| creiht | but doesn't mean we can't have fun with it :) | 19:51 |
| notmyname | that was one of the most well-played burns I've seen in a while | 19:52 |
| portante | that is what I am here for | 19:52 |
| notmyname | (completely untrue, for the record) | 19:52 |
| portante | or not | 19:52 |
| * portante wonders if that correlates with the sped up gate? | 19:52 | |
| notmyname | what other significant patches do we have outstanding? | 19:52 |
| notmyname | gholt: creiht: anything on ssync updates? | 19:53 |
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| chmouel | creiht: are you back on swift btw? | 19:53 |
| creiht | chmouel: yes | 19:53 |
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| creiht | notmyname: still testing as far as I know | 19:53 |
| chmouel | creiht: coool :) | 19:54 |
| notmyname | creiht never really leaves swift | 19:54 |
| creiht | lol | 19:54 |
| notmyname | I don't see any other reviews that warrant discussion here in the last five minutes that can't be handled in gerrit or -swift. anyone have anything else? | 19:55 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 19:55 |
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| notmyname | and so I guess that's it for this week. see you next week! | 19:56 |
| notmyname | thanks for being here | 19:56 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 19:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 12 19:57:01 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-02-12-19.01.html | 19:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-02-12-19.01.txt | 19:57 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2014/swift.2014-02-12-19.01.log.html | 19:57 |
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| stevebaker | #startmeeting heat | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 12 20:00:03 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is stevebaker. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 20:00 |
| stevebaker | #topic rollcall | 20:00 |
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| bgorski | o/ | 20:00 |
| skraynev | o/ | 20:00 |
| zaneb | greetings | 20:00 |
| jasond` | o/ | 20:00 |
| radix | here! | 20:00 |
| sdake | o/ | 20:00 |
| shardy | o/ | 20:00 |
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| radix | cyli is here too but her wifi just died | 20:00 |
| arbylee | o/ | 20:00 |
| jpeeler | hi | 20:01 |
| kebray | o/ | 20:01 |
| stevebaker | #topic Review last meeting's actions | 20:01 |
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| stevebaker | everybody to scrub their assigned blueprints for icehouse-3 | 20:01 |
| stevebaker | everybody: did you do that? | 20:02 |
| radix | kinda | 20:02 |
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| stevebaker | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/icehouse-3 | 20:02 |
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| cyli | hello! | 20:03 |
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| andersonvom | o/ | 20:03 |
| stevebaker | we have 3 that are not started, we should consider kicking those | 20:03 |
| wirehead_ | heya | 20:03 |
| tango | o/ | 20:03 |
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| sdake | looks like launchpad just imploded | 20:03 |
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| stevebaker | auto heat/converge will have no chance, correct? | 20:03 |
| stevebaker | systemd should be trivial | 20:04 |
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| arbylee | stevebaker: converge won't make it | 20:04 |
| stevebaker | and therve was going to get back to me about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/parameter-nested-schema already being done due to other work | 20:04 |
| zaneb | not sure about trivial | 20:04 |
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| sdake | stevebaker re https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/systemd-integration some folks are working on putting that in oslo-incubator, but I suspect the review cycle won't finish in time for me to make the deadline | 20:05 |
| radix | I want to talk about the autoscaled ResourceGroup idea too | 20:05 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: its just writing to a socket after the daemon has started. | 20:05 |
| radix | not sure if we should do that now or later :) | 20:05 |
| zaneb | ok | 20:05 |
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| stevebaker | sdake: if you're busy with oslo.messaging maybe systemd would be good for jpeeler? | 20:05 |
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| * jpeeler looks | 20:06 | |
| sdake | stevebaker I think the dependency we have (getting into oslo-incubator) wont finish in time | 20:06 |
| tspatzier | hi | 20:06 |
| sdake | the code to add to heat is actually pretty straight forward | 20:06 |
| sdake | shoudl be done with oslo.messaging this week | 20:06 |
| dhellmann | sdake: if you share the link to the review, I can try to help prioritize it | 20:06 |
| stevebaker | sdake: we could just do it in heat.common for now and move over to the oslo version as and when it is available | 20:06 |
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| stevebaker | arbylee: ok, I've kicked it | 20:07 |
| sdake | stevebaker wfm if jeff wants to tackle it that also wfm | 20:07 |
| radix | if I refocus on kfox's resourcegroup stuff, then as-lib will be kicked (though maybe it should just be closed resolved since I guess it has kind of a nebulous resolution) | 20:08 |
| sdake | dhellmann trying to find link | 20:08 |
| stevebaker | jpeeler: do you think AWS::EC2::Route will make the feature proposal freeze? | 20:08 |
| radix | (since the module is _there_, but it will grow a lot) | 20:08 |
| zaneb | radix: I definitely don't think it's resolved | 20:08 |
| radix | zaneb: ok :) | 20:08 |
| jpeeler | stevebaker: i hate to say, but i got pulled off that right when i started. it essentially isn't started, so probably not. | 20:09 |
| sdake | dhellmann https://review.openstack.org/72683 | 20:09 |
| stevebaker | jpeeler: lets kick it | 20:09 |
| zaneb | radix: resolved would be "next blueprint in the queue is unblocked" | 20:09 |
| zaneb | s/queue/graph/ | 20:09 |
| radix | zaneb: I think I'll need to start working on the next one before I can even know that | 20:09 |
| radix | but yeah, that's cool | 20:09 |
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| stevebaker | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/cancel-update-stack looks more than started | 20:10 |
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| zaneb | radix: that's true, and let's not pretend that a discrete list of bugs/blueprints accurately reflects reality | 20:10 |
| radix | +1 :) | 20:10 |
| dhellmann | sdake: ok, could you associate that with a bug or blueprint, so I can put it on our i-3 priority list? | 20:10 |
| sdake | dhellmann I'll add a review comment to the effect | 20:11 |
| radix | stevebaker: can we just add an agenda item to talk about AutoScalingGroup? | 20:11 |
| dhellmann | sdake: if you have a bug in heat, you can add oslo as impacted -- I need something I can put a "high" priority on | 20:11 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/native-waitcondition still needed? The native signal API was delivered in a different blueprint | 20:12 |
| stevebaker | radix: do it | 20:12 |
| shardy | stevebaker: we still don't have any way to connect to that API from an instance | 20:12 |
| shardy | stevebaker: ec2 signed auth only works via the cfn API | 20:12 |
| stevebaker | shardy: well, there is that. Technically it is not a heat release thing though. Lets leave it open for now | 20:13 |
| shardy | so I was planning a resource which provided a way to do an auth_token authenticated request for the wait condition notification | 20:13 |
| radix | stevebaker: done | 20:13 |
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| stevebaker | ok that will do for blueprints for now | 20:13 |
| shardy | stevebaker: I was thinking of creating a new WaitHandle type which provided a token, if so it's a heat thing | 20:13 |
| shardy | stevebaker: although we could just say it's the clients problem to get a token | 20:14 |
| stevebaker | zaneb add summary of this discussion to the router-properties-object blueprint | 20:14 |
| sdake | dhellmann for heat, this is medium priority - eg something we could kick if we need to | 20:14 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: I did that | 20:14 |
| sdake | dhellmann but I'll impact oslo in launchpad with it | 20:14 |
| shardy | still need to provide the credentials tho, so there's are several unsolved aspects I wasnted to look at | 20:14 |
| shardy | have to see how time goes.. | 20:14 |
| dhellmann | sdake: ok, I can set it the same, I just don't want to be holding you up because we don't know that we are :-) | 20:14 |
| stevebaker | #topic Adding items to the agenda | 20:14 |
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| * radix added something | 20:15 | |
| sdake | dhellmann dummy q, how do I actually have it impact oslo in launchpad? | 20:15 |
| stevebaker | anything else to add? | 20:15 |
| stevebaker | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282014-2-12.29 | 20:15 |
| sdake | quescing servers | 20:15 |
| sdake | we had a big long chat in irc yesterday about it | 20:16 |
| sdake | but not eveyrone was around | 20:16 |
| stevebaker | sdake: done | 20:16 |
| sdake | the use case is for autoscaling and update models where we want to shut down the server in a controlled way | 20:16 |
| sdake | stevebaker that is done? | 20:16 |
| stevebaker | #topic Gate check job is now enabled | 20:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate check job is now enabled (Meeting topic: heat)" | 20:16 | |
| radix | woo | 20:16 |
| stevebaker | sdake: its on the agenda now | 20:16 |
| sdake | cool | 20:16 |
| dhellmann | sdake: for bugs you can just add the project, for blueprints you have to file a second one under oslo and mark it as a dependency of yours (this will improve when we move to storyboard) | 20:17 |
| stevebaker | great news everybody, heat-slow is now a non-voting job on gating | 20:17 |
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| zaneb | awesome | 20:17 |
| sdake | dhellmann I'll let Jakub do that since I requested it in the review already and it might cause duplicate blueprints and confusion :) | 20:17 |
| dhellmann | sdake: ack | 20:17 |
| wirehead_ | That sounds gate. pun intended. | 20:17 |
| stevebaker | I want to know how stable it is. It should never fail unless your code breaks it. If it does fail and you think it is not your fault then please let me know | 20:18 |
| sdake | sweet | 20:18 |
| sdake | I would also like to point out some new contributors have picked up some tempest work which is hugely important to heat's quality :) | 20:18 |
| stevebaker | It is likely that we'll see issues related to load and races of other openstack components, it would be great if you could spend the time to raise a tempest bug so we can start collecting recheck stats | 20:19 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: from someone who had a crack at automated testing of Heat and failed miserably, kudos for getting this going :) | 20:19 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: its been a long road | 20:19 |
| * stevebaker remembers being volunteered for this in Portland | 20:19 | |
| sdake | ya 2 years to functional testing :) | 20:19 |
| stevebaker | I'd like to make this a voting job at least on heat if it proves stable enough | 20:20 |
| stevebaker | and add it to our gate too | 20:20 |
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| stevebaker | (unless new generation gate doesn't run tempest) | 20:20 |
| stevebaker | fungi: ^ ? | 20:21 |
| shardy | stevebaker: great news, it's failing on all my patches atm, but that may be because of a domains/devstack issue I'm currently fixing | 20:21 |
| stevebaker | shardy: so it works! | 20:21 |
| shardy | stevebaker: it works, aka my code doesn't :D | 20:21 |
| skraynev | stevebaker: really cool news) I will restore my tempest patch ;) | 20:22 |
| fungi | stevebaker: not sure what you mean by new generation gate. we run lots of tempest jobs in the gave for a variety of projects | 20:22 |
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| stevebaker | heat-slow is also checking on devstack, tempest and nova | 20:22 |
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| stevebaker | fungi: I was wondering if there was still plans to not run tempest at all in gate in the future, so the gate continues to scale | 20:23 |
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| stevebaker | #topic Unassigned icehouse-3 bugs | 20:23 |
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| fungi | stevebaker: no, the tempest team is working on speeding tempest up even more, and the plan would be to probably only perform integration testing (like tempest) in the gate and leave things like unit and static analysis/style jobs for the check pipeline | 20:24 |
| stevebaker | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/icehouse-3 | 20:24 |
| radix | wait, isn't it more important for it to be in gate (vs check)? | 20:24 |
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| stevebaker | fungi: ok | 20:24 |
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| stevebaker | There are 8 unassigned bugs in i-3 that need friends | 20:24 |
| fungi | zuul will very soon be requiring that your check jobs got a passing grade before allowing your change to be approved into gating | 20:25 |
| stevebaker | SpamapS_: about? | 20:25 |
| zaneb | fungi: I hope that'll be configurable? Heat's unit tests don't take long to run. I sure would be uncomfortable not having them in the check job. | 20:25 |
| tspatzier | stevebaker: I can take #1271008. I'm actually fixing it as part of some HOT cleanup for another bug | 20:25 |
| stevebaker | tspatzier: thanks | 20:25 |
| zaneb | er s/check/gate/ | 20:26 |
| radix | :) | 20:26 |
| fungi | zaneb: it'll be configurable, yes | 20:26 |
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| zaneb | ok, cool | 20:26 |
| stevebaker | jasond`: can someone be assigned to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1274201 ? | 20:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1274201 in heat "Rackspace authentication is broken" [High,Triaged] | 20:26 |
| zaneb | I know other projects have _much_ slower unit tests | 20:26 |
| stevebaker | zaneb: shall we kick https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1193269 ? | 20:27 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1193269 in heat ""Updated" timestamps store the Wrong Thing" [Low,Triaged] | 20:27 |
| zaneb | sure, why not | 20:27 |
| jasond` | stevebaker: sure, i'll talk to the team | 20:27 |
| stevebaker | I'm going to kick https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1072955 too, unless somebody cares | 20:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1072955 in heat "Implement Fn::Base64" [Low,Triaged] | 20:28 |
| zaneb | I'm starting to think maybe we should just close the Base64 one | 20:28 |
| stevebaker | yep | 20:28 |
| zaneb | remove the function from HOT and forget about it | 20:29 |
| stevebaker | or add a function to HOT when somebody needs to deploy some binary chunk | 20:29 |
| sdake | we should probably just clos that base64 bug, if you actually encode your template in base64, it breaks heat | 20:30 |
| zaneb | sdake: well, the idea would be that the UserData property could detect Base64 and correctly include it in the cloudinit config | 20:30 |
| stevebaker | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1263787 is quite a disruptive change at this point. But it would improve running heat at scale | 20:30 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1263787 in heat "stack table's uuid primary key wastes resources in other tables" [High,Triaged] | 20:30 |
| zaneb | wut | 20:31 |
| sdake | i get that there is an optiimization there, but high prioirty? | 20:31 |
| radix | o.O | 20:32 |
| sdake | imo high priority is "this stuff wont work without it" :) | 20:32 |
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| stevebaker | SpamapS_ isn't here, maybe lifeless can elaborate on why int primary keys are a GoodThing | 20:32 |
| zaneb | 'Wishlist" would be the appropriate priority for that IMO | 20:32 |
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| sdake | agree with zaneb | 20:33 |
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| stevebaker | zaneb: not if you can't run heat at scale without this | 20:33 |
| zaneb | oh come on | 20:34 |
| radix | I'm skeptical that this is actually a blocker for anyone deploying heat | 20:34 |
| radix | but hey, data speaks best :) | 20:34 |
| zaneb | every record in the database contains multiple 256-byte strings | 20:34 |
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| zaneb | saving most of a quarter of one of those does not move the needle for anyone | 20:35 |
| sdake | we would be better off length-encoding the strings :) | 20:35 |
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| stevebaker | rackspace changed nova instance primary key to int for scalablity reasons | 20:36 |
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| stevebaker | I'm assuming this is not a storage overhead thing, its an index lookup overhead thing | 20:36 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: who knows what their database looks like | 20:36 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: that can't be right, because we still need an index for it | 20:36 |
| sdake | imo this is more like a feature request without an interested party willing to implement it | 20:36 |
| stevebaker | anyhoo, I'll kick it for now. Maybe that will force someone to step up | 20:37 |
| sdake | if there was someone bringing code, i think it would be a different story | 20:37 |
| zaneb | sdake: s/feature request/micro-optimisation/ | 20:37 |
| sdake | zaneb yes that is micro-optimized thanks :) | 20:37 |
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| stevebaker | this looks like another optimisation bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1263911 | 20:38 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1263911 in heat "event_create is the wrong place to count events" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:38 |
| sdake | based upon comment #1, looks like another micro opt | 20:38 |
| sdake | if we optimize, imo we should aim for a big impact | 20:39 |
| stevebaker | which leaves https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1247147 | 20:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1247147 in heat "HEAT-Engine Startup Error" [Medium,Triaged] | 20:39 |
| stevebaker | sdake: I've kicked it | 20:39 |
| stevebaker | we just need to check that engine doesn't actually fail to start if /etc/heat/environment.d is missing | 20:39 |
| lifeless | [6~[6~[6~sthi | 20:40 |
| stevebaker | a log error is fine | 20:40 |
| radix | heh, hello lifeless :) | 20:40 |
| lifeless | ba, sorry | 20:40 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: hi | 20:40 |
| stevebaker | lifeless: hai | 20:40 |
| radix | I see you use a terminal-based IRC client | 20:40 |
| sdake | so environment.d woudl be nice if heat just ran without it, but heat should not create directories in the filesystem imo :) | 20:40 |
| stevebaker | radix: don't judge man! | 20:40 |
| lifeless | radix: The One True IRC client | 20:40 |
| radix | :-) | 20:40 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: so, primary keys int vs omgenoughbitstorepresenteveryatomintheuniverseabilliontimesover ? | 20:41 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: I don't get how its even a question. | 20:41 |
| lifeless | stevebaker: but that may be my 'spent years as a DBA' hat on. | 20:41 |
| cmyster | sdake: why not? its being done elsewhere (like lib and log) | 20:41 |
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| lifeless | There's probably even a site 'shouldmypkbeanintoruuid.com' | 20:41 |
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| sdake | cmyster as far as I know, nothing actually creates directories | 20:42 |
| lifeless | (ok that last bit was silly) | 20:42 |
| zaneb | lifeless: it may not be question for dbas implementing this from scratch | 20:42 |
| sdake | creating directories is bad server development imo :) | 20:42 |
| sdake | packaging shoudl handle the directories (so it can clean up after its removed) | 20:42 |
| radix | lifeless: I take it you don't buy the argument that UUIDs are more secure than sequential IDs | 20:42 |
| radix | random UUIDs, I should say | 20:42 |
| stevebaker | cmyster: heat-engine most likely wouldn't have the privilages to create a dir in /etc | 20:42 |
| zaneb | lifeless: the question here is 'is this a High-priority bug even though nobody seems to care enough to fix it' | 20:42 |
| lifeless | radix: you can have a random UUID per stack - thats fine. Just don't make it the PK. | 20:43 |
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| zaneb | radix: I think the point is they serve different purposes | 20:43 |
| cmyster | ok, etc is a different story :) | 20:43 |
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| lifeless | radix: PKs are all about in-DB storage serialisation, not user facing. | 20:43 |
| lifeless | zaneb: ah, priority. Uhm - I don't know. | 20:44 |
| lifeless | zaneb: its certainly less important than getting keystone to use less than 30GB of storage for its tokens... | 20:44 |
| stevebaker | lol | 20:44 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, we're trying!!! ephemeral tokens w/ revocation events! | 20:45 |
| morganfainberg | lifeless, no more storing tokens in the DB! | 20:45 |
| zaneb | lifeless: I concur :) | 20:45 |
| radix | oh! I didn't really understand the ticket at first. okay. | 20:45 |
| morganfainberg | :) | 20:45 |
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| lifeless | morganfainberg: I know :) I'm only slightly teasing :) | 20:45 |
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| stevebaker | lets move on | 20:45 |
| stevebaker | #topic Heat security team | 20:46 |
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| stevebaker | I need to have 2-4 heat-cores to be in the heat security team. | 20:46 |
| stevebaker | PTL needs to be in it | 20:46 |
| shardy | stevebaker: I'll volunteer | 20:47 |
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| stevebaker | shardy: finds and fixes most of our security issues, so I think he should be in it | 20:47 |
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| bgorski | And what are the security team responsibilities exactly? | 20:47 |
| sdake | i'm in | 20:48 |
| stevebaker | quoting ttx | 20:48 |
| radix | some context would be interesting :) | 20:48 |
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| zaneb | bgorski: dealing with incoming CVEs, basically | 20:48 |
| stevebaker | > with a security mindset that we | 20:48 |
| stevebaker | can give early access to security issues so that they can help us debunk | 20:48 |
| stevebaker | submitted issues and build patches if necessary. They would be our first | 20:48 |
| stevebaker | line of contact within your team (and will be able to pull extra | 20:48 |
| stevebaker | developers in to help in resolving the issue in a timely manner). | 20:48 |
| stevebaker | zaneb, sdake, I wonder if the team should have a more broad vendor spread | 20:49 |
| sdake | stevebaker ya that makes sense to me | 20:49 |
| cmyster | stevebaker: do you need me to focus on that as well? thinking of tests from outside the dev pov | 20:49 |
| sdake | if any other cores are interested | 20:49 |
| stevebaker | I was thinking SpamapS_ just for the tripleo perspective | 20:49 |
| zaneb | that's a fair point if we have any volunteers | 20:50 |
| stevebaker | and a heat-core from rax for an open cloud perspective | 20:50 |
| stevebaker | jasond` or randall? | 20:50 |
| sdake | stevebaker maybe you can give people a week to think about it | 20:50 |
| sdake | and bring it up next meeting? | 20:50 |
| stevebaker | sdake: yep | 20:50 |
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| wirehead_ | I can prod internally. | 20:51 |
| radix | yeah, I bet randallburt or jasond` may be interested | 20:51 |
| jasond` | stevebaker: sure | 20:51 |
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| radix | randallburt is gone for the day | 20:51 |
| stevebaker | wirehead_: this has to be somebody already in heat-core, of course any efforts on heat security are welcome | 20:51 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: wirehead_ wasn't volunteering, just volunteering to poke randallburt | 20:52 |
| wirehead_ | :) | 20:52 |
| stevebaker | jasond`: let me know later who is the lucky one | 20:52 |
| stevebaker | #topic Resource-based AutoScalingGroup | 20:52 |
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| jasond` | stevebaker: will do | 20:52 |
| stevebaker | radix: meep | 20:53 |
| radix | so there was this discussion yesterday | 20:53 |
| radix | stevebaker: I guess you missed the last half of it | 20:53 |
| radix | kfox basically mentioned his initiative to make a version of AutoScalingGroup that can work with other resources | 20:53 |
| radix | and this may actually be an opportunity to get something _useful_ into icehouse :) | 20:53 |
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| radix | he was developing it as a third-party plugin, but it's possible this could basically become a part of the "as-intermediate-resource" | 20:54 |
| radix | so basically I'm offering my time to work on that now instead of the as-lib BP, which is effectively not useful to end-users | 20:54 |
| SpamapS_ | o/ | 20:54 |
| SpamapS_ | sorry physical meetings today | 20:54 |
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| radix | so I want to see if it's something that anyone else thinks is a good idea | 20:55 |
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| radix | it seemed pretty positive yesterday | 20:55 |
| stevebaker | radix: for software config there needs to be one or more deployment resources per server resource, so I'm keen to be able to scale something which isn't just a server | 20:55 |
| radix | right, there are pretty strong use cases for it | 20:56 |
| SpamapS_ | +1 on coalescing resourcegroup with autoscalinggroup | 20:56 |
| radix | and my idea is to simply just subclass AutoScalingGroup and making it allow arbitrary resources, in the same way ResourceGroup works | 20:56 |
| shardy | radix: The discussion started with funzo's requirement to scale OS::Nova::Servers with multiple neutron networks IIRC: | 20:56 |
| shardy | http://paste.openstack.org/show/64765/ | 20:56 |
| radix | shardy: oh right ok | 20:56 |
| SpamapS_ | we need exactly that for TripleO | 20:56 |
| shardy | maybe kfox chimed in after, I think he had similar issues | 20:56 |
| skraynev | I agree with radix native AutoscalingResources will be good additional for heat | 20:56 |
| gokrokve | +1 to have it in Icehouse | 20:57 |
| radix | now, there's only a week for reviews to be submitted... so I'll try myb est :) | 20:57 |
| radix | shardy: was it funzo the whole time? maybe I was confused about kfox | 20:57 |
| tspatzier | radix: do you have a link to a BP or wiki page or something? | 20:57 |
| stevebaker | I'm all for giving it a go | 20:57 |
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| zaneb | I think we should do the hack if we think we can build on it to deliver the final feature we planned on in the future | 20:57 |
| stevebaker | should we ditch ResourceGroup if it lands? | 20:57 |
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| radix | stevebaker: hmm, maybe? | 20:58 |
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| zaneb | if it's just going to involve more backtracking, deprecation, &c. then we should forget about it and concentrate on delivering what we want for Juno | 20:58 |
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| shardy | zaneb: Yeah, my suggestion was to focus on that use-case from funzo and make it possible in a simple-a way as possible, but ideally with flexibility so we can iterate on it in Juno | 20:58 |
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| radix | zaneb: I think it has a chance to look at least pretty close to the ultimate resource. i.e. it should be possible to switch out the implementation later | 20:58 |
| shardy | an interface which allows scale out of provider resources seems like a good interface to me | 20:59 |
| zaneb | radix: if that is the case then +1 | 20:59 |
| shardy | as it's simple but very flexible | 20:59 |
| stevebaker | how do we deal with the fact that an artibrary resource will create something real, but a launchconfiguration doesn't | 20:59 |
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| radix | stevebaker: not sure what you mean | 20:59 |
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| funzo | A launch configuration is just used as a template | 20:59 |
| zaneb | stevebaker: just hack it like we do now, presumably | 21:00 |
| funzo | the arbitrary resources in this context are real ports, floating ips | 21:00 |
| jd__ | (knock knock) | 21:00 |
| radix | basically, look at ResourceGroup, I'm just suggesting making it look like that | 21:00 |
| skraynev | time is over((( | 21:00 |
| stevebaker | radix: ok, thats fine | 21:00 |
| shardy | lets move to #heat.. | 21:00 |
| stevebaker | woah | 21:00 |
| stevebaker | #endmeeting | 21:00 |
| SpamapS | doh | 21:00 |
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| radix | oh wow | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 12 21:00:49 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:00 |
| radix | ok :) | 21:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-02-12-20.00.html | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-02-12-20.00.txt | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2014/heat.2014-02-12-20.00.log.html | 21:00 |
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| jd__ | #startmeeting ceilometer | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 12 21:01:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jd__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 21:01 |
| jd__ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ceilometer | 21:01 |
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| jd__ | hi | 21:01 |
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| lsmola_fosdem | hello | 21:01 |
| ildikov_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| Alexei_987 | hi :) | 21:01 |
| gibi_ | o/ | 21:01 |
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| eglynn-afk | o/ | 21:01 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 21:02 |
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| jd__ | #topic Milestone status icehouse-3 | 21:03 |
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| jd__ | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/icehouse-3 | 21:04 |
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| jd__ | it looks like we're getting a bit late | 21:04 |
| ildikov_ | we still have some patch sets waiting for review: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ceilometer+branch:master+topic:bp/complex-filter-expressions-in-api-queries,n,z | 21:04 |
| jd__ | yeah I still want to review that and I still failed | 21:05 |
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| jd__ | we also miss code but I know eglynn is on it | 21:05 |
| jd__ | it's likely we start cutting things not started next week or something | 21:05 |
| ildikov_ | the first is the alarm and then alarm history, etc, these are much smaller than the first one was, still plenty of test cases | 21:05 |
| jd__ | anything else? | 21:05 |
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| Alexei_987 | jd__: my IMHO that we should postpone complex queries for next cycle | 21:06 |
| jd__ | we take what we have | 21:06 |
| eglynn | Alexei_987: well the first patch has already landed | 21:06 |
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| ildikov_ | Alexei_987: the main logic has been already on master | 21:07 |
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| jd__ | #topic Tempest integration | 21:07 |
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| jd__ | nprivalova: around? | 21:07 |
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| ildikov_ | jd__:she left a note on the IRC channel | 21:07 |
| ildikov_ | she cannot attend the meeting today | 21:07 |
| jd__ | ah ok, I missed that | 21:08 |
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| jd__ | next time I guess :) | 21:08 |
| jd__ | #topic Release python-ceilometerclient? | 21:08 |
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| eglynn | no need AFAIK | 21:08 |
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| jd__ | ack | 21:08 |
| jd__ | #topic Open discussion | 21:08 |
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| Alexei_987 | jd__: I have MySQL tests ready and working | 21:08 |
| jd__ | anything else? that'll be a short meeting :) | 21:08 |
| jd__ | Alexei_987: great! | 21:08 |
| Alexei_987 | and I would like everyone to help with reviewing | 21:09 |
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| Alexei_987 | and postgres still have 35 failures | 21:09 |
| ildikov_ | dhellmann: I proposed a fix to sphinxcontrib: #link https://github.com/dreamhost/sphinxcontrib-pecanwsme/pull/12 | 21:09 |
| Alexei_987 | I hope to have it ready tomorrow | 21:09 |
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| gordc | jd__: i should mention the vcenter support work is ongoing. i've been talking to some of the guys from vmware and they said they've got some code | 21:09 |
| jd__ | ok | 21:09 |
| dhellmann | ildikov_: I saw that, but have't gotten to reviewing it yet | 21:09 |
| dhellmann | ildikov_: I'll make sure I get to it tomorrow morning if not today | 21:09 |
| ildikov_ | dhellmann: ok, thanks | 21:10 |
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| gordc | dhellmann: had a quick question for you regarding oslo graduation... if you have time i'll ask you over in #openstack-ceilometer | 21:11 |
| Alexei_987 | jd__: question - how is oslo messaging integration? | 21:11 |
| dhellmann | gordc: sure | 21:11 |
| Alexei_987 | jd__: can I help with something there? | 21:11 |
| jd__ | Alexei_987: progressing according to sileht | 21:11 |
| jd__ | Alexei_987: you can review patches on oslo.messaging | 21:11 |
| Alexei_987 | jd__: thanks. will do | 21:12 |
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| dhellmann | ildikov_: *sometimes* the trailing slash is appropriate, right? | 21:12 |
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| ildikov_ | dhellmann: now I removed them, can we identify the exact definition of *sometimes*? | 21:12 |
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| dhellmann | ildikov_: I was hoping you would do that :-) | 21:13 |
| ildikov_ | with gordc we kind of agreed that the trailing slash should be removed from everywhere | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | ildikov_: I just know that we can't always strip them | 21:13 |
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| dhellmann | well "think" | 21:13 |
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| dhellmann | oh, maybe I'm wrong on that, then? I thought that pecan wanted the trailing slashes in some cases | 21:13 |
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| gordc | dhellmann: ildikov_: i need to look this up again but when i first looked at it. i believe the trailing slash actually represents a new separate path | 21:13 |
| dhellmann | gordc: ok, I may be misunderstanding, I'll check with ryan and see what he says | 21:14 |
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| gordc | so the difference in behaviour we were getting with trailing and no trailing slash was right... just that the docs were using a trailing slash which actually references the wrong target i believe | 21:14 |
| ildikov_ | gordc, dhellmann: I will change the fix, if we have any agreement on the *sometimes* part | 21:15 |
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| gordc | ildikov_: i'll try googling what i read last time and add it to bug if i can find it. | 21:15 |
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| ildikov_ | gordc: my plan was to add a note after removing the trailing slash, that the meter_name is optional in the samples endpoint | 21:15 |
| dhellmann | ildikov_: I've asked ryan, but he is offline at the moment so I'll give him some time to respond to my email | 21:16 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: which means that without it, it will return the samples for all meters | 21:16 |
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| sileht | o/ | 21:16 |
| gordc | ildikov_: a note could work... probably not the cleanest solution but if we need to resort to it... | 21:17 |
| ildikov_ | dhellmann: k, thanks, now I proposed the simplest fix and then we will see | 21:17 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: I think with that specific endpoint implementation, we cannot generate the doc better | 21:18 |
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| ildikov_ | gordc: it seems to be that it is a bug that turned to be a feature as that endpoint is described as returne that samples for one specific meter | 21:18 |
| gordc | ildikov_: i'll need to take a look again and give it a try. hopefully it's a doc thing but you're probably right. | 21:19 |
| ildikov_ | so, I've already prepeared the patch with that single note, I only would like to see what will be the end of the sphinxcontrib modification | 21:19 |
| sileht | jd__, Alexei_987 dhellmann for oslo.messaging in ceilometer, all patches are ready, I'm waiting for review of the notification listener on the oslo.messaging side | 21:20 |
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| ildikov_ | gordc: there we would need two functions, but we have only one get_all | 21:20 |
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| eglynn | sileht: excellent! :) | 21:21 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: #link https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py#L687 | 21:21 |
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| gordc | ildikov_: isn't the api call with trailing slash returning data we're not expecting? | 21:22 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: and meter can be null here: #link https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/api/controllers/v2.py#L683 | 21:22 |
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| ildikov_ | gordc: yes, it is the case, when meter is empty in the line #683 | 21:23 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: as meter is only required for statistics | 21:23 |
| gordc | i think that the bug is if you call the path described by docs, you don't actually get what it tells you should be getting. | 21:23 |
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| ildikov_ | gordc: so in case of samples it will return all, as this additional filter is missing from the query | 21:23 |
| gordc | ildikov_: hmmm... i'll need to glance at bug report again. but yeah, maybe a note is cleanest option. | 21:24 |
| sileht | eglynn, yes but the progress is quite slow, all patches are under review since end of december, I wait a lot between each iterations | 21:24 |
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| ildikov_ | gordc: yes, because the trailing slash means that you send a request with empty meter name, which ends up in the MeterController, instead of the MetersController, because of the trailing slash | 21:25 |
| gordc | sileht: this patch is ready for review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57457/ | 21:25 |
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| gordc | ildikov_: ah got it... yes i sort of remember now... it only really happens for a few cases. | 21:25 |
| sileht | gordc, but it have some crap to bootstrap the in development version of oslo.messaging | 21:25 |
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| eglynn | sileht: ... the reviewing logjam is on the oslo side, or? | 21:26 |
| sileht | the most important patch are 'https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/oslo.messaging+branch:master+topic:bp/notification-subscriber-server,n,z' | 21:26 |
| gordc | sileht: got it. yeah i wasn't sure if it's still a wip | 21:26 |
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| jd__ | eglynn: yes | 21:26 |
| sileht | gordc, eglynn you can review the ceilometer part it can be a good step too | 21:27 |
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| ildikov_ | gordc: it is a special case as the meter endpoint ha multiple roles here, the problem will be solved, if we will not use this endpoint for samples anymore, so I assume in the next API version, if we reach that point | 21:27 |
| eglynn | so these are the folks we need to harass ;) | 21:27 |
| eglynn | ... https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/106,members | 21:27 |
| sileht | but cannot be merged until a new version of oslo.messaging is released with my current pendinds reviews | 21:27 |
| ildikov_ | gordc: but until that, we can fix the trailing slash issue in the doc and add a note to make it clean that the meter_name is optional in the request URL for samples | 21:28 |
| eglynn | ... a few of them are Red Hatters, I'll mention the importance of this work to them | 21:28 |
| gordc | ildikov_: i think you've convinced me :) | 21:29 |
| sileht | eglynn, markmc have already review a lot my works, it have a good vision of the feature/changes | 21:29 |
| sileht | eglynn, thx | 21:29 |
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| eglynn | sileht: cool, I'll see if I can encourage the other RH folks to chime in also | 21:29 |
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| ildikov_ | gordc: cool, I will wait for dhellmann's review then and see what will happen :) | 21:30 |
| jd__ | looks like we ran out of topic? wrapping up in a minute | 21:31 |
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| jd__ | #endmeeting | 21:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 12 21:32:47 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-02-12-21.01.html | 21:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-02-12-21.01.txt | 21:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-02-12-21.01.log.html | 21:32 |
| jd__ | thanks, have fun and happy hacking! | 21:32 |
| lsmola2 | thanks everybody, have good night | 21:33 |
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| ildikov_ | thanks, bye | 21:33 |
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| eglynn | good night y'all! | 21:33 |
| nealph_ | thanks! | 21:33 |
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