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DinaBelova#startmeeting climate15:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Jan 24 15:01:25 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is DinaBelova. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: climate)"15:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'climate'15:01
DinaBelovao/15:01
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DinaBelovahello everyone :)15:01
DinaBelovawho's here?15:01
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DinaBelovabauzas, joel_c f_rossigneux, scroiset?15:02
bauzaso/15:02
bauzasscroiset is off today15:02
bauzasand f_rossigneux too15:02
DinaBelovawhen I've got days off I always go to meetings :D15:02
bauzasfeelink like a lone soul :)15:02
DinaBelovaok, Nick is afk now I see15:02
DinaBelovawe'll be alone today :D15:03
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DinaBelovajoel_c, you here?15:03
JoelCyes15:03
JoelChi15:03
DinaBelovawow :)15:03
bauzaswe're not alone in the dark \o/15:03
DinaBelovaok, let's start15:04
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DinaBelovaour agenda is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Climate15:04
DinaBelova#topic Action items from the last meeting + reviews queries15:04
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DinaBelova#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2014/climate.2014-01-17-15.00.html15:04
DinaBelovalast meeting ended with 3 action items15:04
bauzasyup15:05
DinaBelovaI suppose I almost close to oslo.messaging15:05
bauzasyep agreed15:05
DinaBelovacause soon change helping me with that will be merged15:05
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DinaBelovaand after that we may add it to 0.1.115:05
DinaBelovabauzas, what's with your action items?15:06
bauzaswell, I got the incubation checklist item15:06
bauzashttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/59454/2/reference/incubation-integration-requirements15:06
DinaBelovathx15:06
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DinaBelovaok, as for current code status15:07
bauzasfor the second action : https://bugs.launchpad.net/climate/+bug/127237115:07
bauzas(just created it)15:07
DinaBelovaI understood that :)15:07
DinaBelovaok15:07
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DinaBelovawe have two important changes to be merged15:07
DinaBelovathat are stoppers for 0.1 now15:07
Nikolay_StI'm here15:07
DinaBelovaNikolay_St, o/15:08
DinaBelova1/ VM plugin15:08
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DinaBelova2/ Nova API extensions15:08
bauzas1/ is still under test15:08
bauzasand still bugging15:08
bauzasabout unshelve action which is not part of v1_1 novaclient15:08
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DinaBelovabauzas, although last your trace seems to be quite strange to me15:09
bauzasok, let's discuss that off this meeting15:09
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bauzas2/ will test it once 1/ is validated :D15:09
DinaBelovabauzas, I see problem here15:09
bauzasrunning out of people now for helping me15:09
DinaBelovaunshelving seems to be supported15:09
DinaBelovain current master15:09
DinaBelovabut not for tag 2.15.015:10
bauzasexactly15:10
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bauzasI don't want to discuss about resolution, but how can it have been working before ?15:10
DinaBelovathat's for master https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v1_1/servers.py#L62515:10
Nikolay_Stsimple.15:10
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Nikolay_Stwe use devstack15:11
Nikolay_Stand it uses latest master branch15:11
DinaBelovaI suppose that's because Nick had lab with master branch15:11
DinaBelovaproblem here is that we NEED this change15:11
bauzasalthough I'm testing climate on a venv15:11
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bauzasDinaBelova: +115:12
bauzasthat's a huge issue15:12
bauzaswe can't use the client15:12
bauzasfor unshelving15:12
bauzasor at lease until it's released15:12
DinaBelovabauzas, but using some direct requests to Nova also seems bad to me15:13
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DinaBelovahttp://pypi.openstack.org/openstack/python-novaclient/15:13
DinaBelova2.15.0 is really old15:13
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Nikolay_Styeap, another time15:14
bauzasDinaBelova: yep15:14
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Nikolay_StDinaBelova: may be it'll be better to push a letter to the mailing list?15:14
DinaBelovaI suppose, Nick, you may try to ask Nova guys about the same you did for keystoneclient15:14
DinaBelovayep15:14
DinaBelovaNikolay_St, exactly15:14
bauzasthat's something we need to prevent for the next times15:14
DinaBelovabecause Sep 2013 seems to be really weird for me15:14
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bauzashold on15:15
Nikolay_St?15:15
bauzasI can shelve/unshelve with the client15:15
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DinaBelova0_015:15
bauzasby the shell I mean15:15
DinaBelovaem15:15
DinaBelovahow?15:15
bauzaslemme check15:15
Nikolay_Stwow15:15
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DinaBelovaok, let's spend a minute15:16
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bauzasbut still, we need to make sure we don't test against master ;)15:16
bauzasfor the reqs I mean15:16
DinaBelovaI got it15:16
DinaBelovastill15:17
DinaBelovaNick, will you write letter to ML anyway?15:17
Nikolay_Styeap15:17
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DinaBelova#action Nikolay_St write to ML about novaclient15:17
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DinaBelovaok, shall we move to next topic?15:18
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DinaBelova#topic Current status for the Climate 0.1.0 (testing, possible release postponing till Jan 27)15:18
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DinaBelovawe now have problems to solve15:19
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DinaBelovabut I believe we have good chances on having release Jan 27 (evening CET)15:19
DinaBelovasmth like that15:19
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DinaBelovawhen we'll fix VM plugin and test it - we're almost there15:20
DinaBelovabauzas, Nikolay_St, any objections?15:20
bauzas+115:20
Nikolay_Stno, I don't think so15:20
DinaBelovaok15:20
DinaBelovagreat15:20
DinaBelovaso now we'll have two really interesting topics :)15:21
DinaBelova#topic Future plans for 0.1.1 (bug fixing, small features, etc.)15:21
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DinaBelovafor now I already see something we decided to scope fro 0.1.115:21
DinaBelova#link https://launchpad.net/climate/+milestone/0.1.115:21
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DinaBelovaAlso I should move to that BP list writing documentation for climate15:22
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DinaBelovamoment15:22
bauzasagree15:22
DinaBelova#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/wiki-pages15:23
DinaBelovahere it is15:23
DinaBelovaI suppose if we'll have noncritical bugs/whatever found while 0.1 testing15:23
DinaBelovawe'll also scope them for 0.115:23
DinaBelovaI think that's not so interesting15:24
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DinaBelovathe most nice topic for today is the next one15:24
Nikolay_Stfor 0.1.1, yeah?15:24
bauzassure15:24
DinaBelovaok. i'll move on it15:25
DinaBelova#topic Future plans for 0.2 (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-0.2)15:25
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DinaBelova#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-0.215:25
DinaBelovahere is small Etherpad page15:25
DinaBelovawhere I propose to share ideas about 0.215:25
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DinaBelovaSylvain & I have written there something already15:26
Nikolay_Styeap, I have no time today to write my thoughts15:26
bauzasthat's open to your  comments15:26
DinaBelovaJoelC, I suppose you might have some ideas there too15:26
DinaBelova:)15:26
Nikolay_Stbut, also I think about Neutron reservations15:27
DinaBelovaNikolay_St, please add this point there15:27
DinaBelovaJoelC, you are welcome to share your ideas15:27
DinaBelovaJoelC, we saw your comments on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/notifications15:28
Nikolay_StDinaBelova: I'do it on weekend15:28
DinaBelovaNikolay_St, tnx15:28
JoelCyes.  i am reviewing the climate-.2 etherpad.  looks interesting..  ultimately we are looking to drive our life cycle management needs from climate.  climate being the source of many of the events.15:28
JoelCwe anticipate having workflows that will be triggered by these events15:28
DinaBelovaJoelC, are you speaking about notifications here as events?15:29
bauzasthe Ceilometer integration should match your needs15:29
JoelCbased on what BP around hooks/notifications and the direction you are headed I think we will have the integration points to make this a reality15:29
JoelCnot really15:29
bauzasso I guess you want to do actions on an event ?15:29
JoelCcorrect15:30
DinaBelovalike "lease has started" -> "do smth"15:30
DinaBelova?15:30
JoelCwhen a user is entitled today we have custom code that integrates with openstack and creates the project, etc.15:30
JoelCin the future we will enhance this to store more meta detail within openstack ... hopefully in the generic meta repository in glance but we will see how that plays out15:31
JoelCthat meta data will drive business logic we hope to exist as workflows in mistral15:31
DinaBelovaJoelC, great idea15:32
bauzasJoelC: why aren't you using Heat for this ?15:32
JoelCmost of our projects will be using leases so we are hoping we can get climate to send events (lease started, lease about to expire, lease expired, etc..)15:32
JoelCwe do use heat for complex collections15:33
JoelCprojects are associated to our business units15:33
bauzasbecause Ceilometer can send events to Heat15:33
JoelCeach team / BU will have several projects15:33
DinaBelovabauzas, I suppose there is one thing here - Climate should a source of events15:33
DinaBelovabecause these events are Climate specific15:34
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JoelCthose that are not "production" will be forced to get a lease.... this concept is part of our integrated service management and resource management15:34
bauzasyup, I'm thinking of the workflow Climate -> Ceilo -> Heat15:34
bauzasfor providing actions upon events15:34
bauzasbut still, we can define some custom hooks, I agree15:35
DinaBelovabauzas, I'm not sure JoelC is speaking about actions that Heat might be processing15:35
JoelCone of the workflows that we would like to realize this year would be to send notification on expiration, backup the vm and delete it.15:35
bauzaswhere you map extra actions that you need to do15:35
bauzasJoelC: okay, gotcha15:36
DinaBelovaJoelC, i think that's more than implementable15:36
DinaBelova:)15:36
DinaBelovaok15:37
bauzasok, anything left to discuss for 0.2 ?15:37
DinaBelovaI think no15:37
DinaBelovaok15:37
DinaBelova#topic Open discussion15:38
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DinaBelovasomething to discuss?15:38
DinaBelova:)15:38
DinaBelovaI suppose we just should have 0.1 asap15:38
DinaBelovaand then continue working on everything else15:38
DinaBelovaJoelC, please don't mind to describe your use cases and ideas in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/climate-0.215:39
DinaBelovaJoelC, am I right you want to participate in Climate implementing with your team?15:39
JoelCwill do.  we look forward to pulling down .1 and getting more involved in realizing .2.  thanks.15:39
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JoelCcorrect.. we need to get more involved.15:40
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DinaBelovaJoelC, it's really good news :)15:40
DinaBelovaBecause speaking about 0.2 scope15:40
DinaBelovathere are much to do :)15:41
DinaBelovaAnd it'll be interesting :)15:41
DinaBelovabauzas, anything to add?15:41
bauzasDinaBelova: I also have some people wanting to join us15:41
DinaBelovabauzas, wow15:41
DinaBelova:)15:41
DinaBelovaIt's X-mas for me :)15:41
bauzasDinaBelova: that's still to discuss15:41
DinaBelovabauzas, let me know about results of this discussion15:41
bauzasDinaBelova: of course ;)15:42
DinaBelovanice15:42
DinaBelovaok, let's return to 0.1 :)15:42
DinaBelovaand test/fix it asap :)15:42
DinaBelovabye15:42
bauzas:)15:42
bauzasbye15:42
DinaBelova#endmeeting15:42
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