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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 9 16:01:23 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | hello everyone | 16:01 |
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| gokrokve | hi | 16:01 |
| NikolayM | hi | 16:01 |
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| stanlagun | hi | 16:01 |
| joel_c | hello | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | hey | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | here's the proposed agenda for today's meeting: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:03 |
| akuznetsov | Hi | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | additionally, I would add a topic "Detailed plan for PoC demo app" to that agenda. I was going to do that but looks like I forgot, sorry | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | so let's start with previous action items | 16:05 |
| gokrokve | That is fine. Lets add this to the end | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, 1 sec | 16:06 |
| gokrokve | I meant PoC demo app. | 16:06 |
| gokrokve | What is the list of AI? | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | done | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:07 |
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| gokrokve | joel_c: Hi Joel! | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic previous AIs | 16:07 |
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| gokrokve | joel_c: Glad to see you here. | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | 1. nmakhotkin, rakhmerov Check once more what TaskFlow lacks to be able to use it in Mistral | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | So we have some new info on that | 16:07 |
| gokrokve | #1 is it a doxument? | 16:07 |
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| gokrokve | #1 is it a document? | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | and that's pretty important | 16:08 |
| gokrokve | We need to have this publically available to start converstaion with Joshua | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | we finally realized the most important thing that TaskFlow lacks now. It doens't support asynchronous tasks. Here's the link to the etherpad where we started discussing that: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/async-taskflow-tasks | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | it's published | 16:09 |
| gokrokve | Cool. Keep Joshua in the loop. We need a close collaboration here. | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | yes, sure | 16:10 |
| gokrokve | Discuss with him what they\we can do. | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | we keep talking to them | 16:10 |
| gokrokve | Submit BPs for taskflow. | 16:10 |
| gokrokve | Great! | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, submit blueprints for TaskFlow about lacking functionality (i.e. asynchronous tasks) | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | so for now we've made a decision to create our own engine without TaskFlow, it will allow us to understand what we need from TaskFlow better | 16:12 |
| joel_c | rakhmerov: a fork of taskflow? | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | it doesn't mean we're not going to use TaskFlow but at this point it just makes more sense | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | joel_c: not really a fork | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | well, actually not sure what you mean? | 16:13 |
| gokrokve | joel_c: It will be a PoC for Mistral which will help to figure out requirements for taskflow | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:14 |
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| joel_c | gokrokve: rakhmerov: understood. | 16:14 |
| gokrokve | Once we have a list of requirements we will with taskflow team to implement them | 16:14 |
| gokrokve | We are working with taskflow team pretty closely | 16:14 |
| gokrokve | We had a lot of meetings with them to define Mistral architecture and how taskflow fits to it | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | the main point here is that we first need to think about the architecture of Mistral as if we didn't know about TaskFlow existance. Then with knowledge of what we need we could provide more valueable requirements for TaskFlow so that we can apply it within Mistral | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | hope it makes sense | 16:16 |
| gokrokve | There are some gaps in taskflow library which should be filled before we can use it. So our idea is to create a simple engine for Mistral and based on it we will prepare a list of features we need from taskflow. | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | yes | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | it's jut more clear experiment if you will | 16:16 |
| joel_c | thanks for the clarification | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | otherwise we will end up creating workarounds for using TaskFlow rather than concentrating on Mistral architecture | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | but again, we'll try to contribute our ideas into TaskFlow and eventually use it at some point | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | so now we're prototyping the engine implementation without TaskFlow and we've almost done the initial version | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, is it going to be committed today? | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, not sure if he's here but he was planning to do that at least | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | let's move on | 16:20 |
| NikolayM | yes, I just finish general ideas | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, cool | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | after that we're planning to look at it, play with it and think how we can further address HA and scalability requirements | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | we also had the second action item | 16:21 |
| gokrokve | Renat, do we have a scope of PoC defined? What use cases will be covered? | 16:21 |
| gokrokve | Ok. Go with 2nd AI | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsov, nmakhotkin, rakhmerov Create a detailed plan for the demo application for PoC | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | which is what I just included into the agenda | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | last time we decided to devote this meeting to exactly that topic | 16:22 |
| gokrokve | What is demo application? | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | so as you may guess, it's not done yet even though we have some thoughts | 16:23 |
| gokrokve | I wonder if we can have scheduled event use case covered. | 16:23 |
| gokrokve | I believe, that use case was interesting for Joel. | 16:23 |
| gokrokve | For scheduled backups for example. | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | gokrove: yes, we have a bluprint mistral-poc, it pretty much describes what PoC is going to address | 16:24 |
| gokrokve | Link? | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | yes, it will be covered | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | ok, sec | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-poc | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | it's not really detailed, sorry | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | additionally you may want to look at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralAPISpecification and https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MistralDSLSpecification | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | to better understand what's going to be implemented in PoC | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | but yes, this use case will be covered | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | but just one note here | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | for PoC we are planning to implement only simple actions like "sending HTTP requests" | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | so scheduling backups will be possible only if we represent it with a set of REST or AMQP calls | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | joel_c: if you have any questions, please ask, we'll be happy to clarify them | 16:28 |
| joel_c | rakhmerov: will do. so far so good. ;) | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | ok :) | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | later on we're going implement more capabilities in Mistral like convenient callback to the applications so that we could implement some actions within python code itself | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's task what Demo App is going to do with PoC | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Detailed plan for Demo App to demonstrate PoC capabilities | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | not sure if I answered your the question what Demo App is | 16:31 |
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| gokrokve | By the way, we can evaluate an interface of salt minion | 16:32 |
| gokrokve | This is an agent of salt stack. | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | so Demo App is an application (may be just a python script) that will be uploading a workflow into Mistral and tell Mistral run a workflow using either the corresponding REST API call or just defining periodic events within a workflow definition itself (using DSL) | 16:32 |
| gokrokve | Probably we can send some hooks to it. | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:32 |
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| gokrokve | It is zeroMQ based. | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | #action Evaluate an interface of salt minion | 16:33 |
| gokrokve | There is an e-mail thread about unified agent. | 16:33 |
| gokrokve | Salt minion was mentioned as potential basis. | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | Demo App in our case may just build a workflow definition taking some input parameters (like how many VMs this workflow should create) | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | gokrokve: got it, thanks, we'll look at it | 16:34 |
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| rakhmerov | Initially we were planning create a Demo App that would build a workflow like "Create several VMs" -> "Create Cinder Volumes" -> "Attach Cinder Volumes" -> "Format Volumes" | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | so the app itself seems to be easy to implement but I personally have a couple of concerns here | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | are we going to be able to perform all these actions like "Create VMs" using just REST calls? | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | any comments on this guys? | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | or you can also suggest a different plan for Demo App | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | it is something we need to decide quickly :) | 16:38 |
| joel_c | gokrokve: were you suggesting that the demo would also integrate through to an agent within the VM representing application deployment/configuration? | 16:38 |
| joel_c | gokrokve: and the agent would be based on salt? | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | no, honestly we were not | 16:39 |
| gokrokve | rakhmerov: Actually yes. | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | it can be made later but I believe we've not decided to implement this in PoC | 16:40 |
| joel_c | it would be great if that was achieved | 16:40 |
| gokrokve | I think that might be useful as PoC can be used not only for demo but for some real use cases if it works with agent on VM side | 16:40 |
| joel_c | agreed. this USE case is valuable. | 16:40 |
| gokrokve | joel_c: Yes. Do you want to try PoC code in your lab for your use cases? | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | joel_c: Yes | 16:41 |
| joel_c | Yes, this will play well into custom collection(stack)/application deployments | 16:41 |
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| gokrokve | joel_c: Cool. Do you have any specific requirements to use Mistral? | 16:42 |
| gokrokve | It will not be a production code, so you can play only in a lab with it. | 16:42 |
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| joel_c | nothing specific at this time however if the PoC included what was just discussed it would be enough to demonstrate clearly how it can be evolved into something for production | 16:43 |
| gokrokve | joel_c: Great. We will definetely include this to PoC. | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | as far as VM agents, I totally agree about communicating with VM agents but I'm pretty sure we won't be able to achive that this week :) However, given this new info we'll try to implement it quickly | 16:44 |
| gokrokve | rakhmerov: Not this week. | 16:44 |
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| gokrokve | rakhmerov: for this week we just need a base engine for Mistral. | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | well, if you're talking about PoC it's supposed to be finished on Friday | 16:45 |
| gokrokve | PoC for engine. | 16:45 |
| gokrokve | Yes. | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | not sure I understand you | 16:45 |
| gokrokve | Integration with agent can be done later. Let say nex week. | 16:46 |
| gokrokve | Integration with agent can be done later. Let say next week. | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | this Friday is a deadline for Mistral PoC (REST API, Scheduler, Engine) | 16:46 |
| gokrokve | So, do not change a scope of work for this week, but plan next week activities with agent. | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | yep, next week I think we can do it | 16:46 |
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| gokrokve | rakhmerov: Good. | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | definitely, ok | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | #action Work on joel_c requirement about communication with VM agent | 16:48 |
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| rakhmerov | So I guess we talked on Demo App for PoC and understand what we're planning to do | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | I was going to discuss one more thing | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Discuss Mistral Engine & requirements to TaskFlow | 16:51 |
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| igormarnat | rakhmerov: you might want also to involve Dmitry into the discussions of VM agent - he seems to be working on unified agent for several projects, getting the reqs and elaborating blueprint | 16:51 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | Dmitry Mesheryakov? | 16:51 |
| akuznetsov | yes | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | ok thanks | 16:51 |
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| rakhmerov | as far as requirements to TaskFlow - we've already talked about it and and it is in progress | 16:53 |
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| rakhmerov | #action Arrange a meeting with Dmitry Mesheryakov about Unified Agent (include Stan and others) | 16:54 |
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| rakhmerov | looks like we don't have much time to discuss Mistral Engine now | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | basically now it's going to schedule workflow executions in separate threads without distributing anything | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | of course, it's not going to be neither fault tolerant nor scalable | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | so my main concern here is to propose an architecture to address these requirements | 16:58 |
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| rakhmerov | so that Mistral would be stateless and we could scale it easily | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | I suggest we discuss it on the next meeting | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | so, let's finish now | 16:59 |
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| rakhmerov | thanks to everyone! | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 9 16:59:58 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-12-09-16.01.html | 17:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-12-09-16.01.txt | 17:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2013/mistral.2013-12-09-16.01.log.html | 17:00 |
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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | Welcome everyone to the Ironic meeting. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 9 19:01:20 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | no logging? | 19:01 |
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| lucasagomes | weird | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:01 |
| openstack | NobodyCam: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 19:01 |
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| devananda | slow bot ... | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | wow just really slow | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | Of course the agenda can be found at: | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | Who's here for the Ironic Meeting? | 19:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greetings, roll-call and announcements (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:01 | |
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| dkehn | me | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:02 |
| rloo | me | 19:02 |
| yuriyz | + | 19:02 |
| romcheg1 | o/ | 19:02 |
| lucasagomes | :) | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | welcome all!!!! | 19:02 |
| hupiper | ! | 19:02 |
| devananda | a few quick announcements | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | announcements | 19:02 |
| NobodyCam | go devananda | 19:03 |
| devananda | - we have a client release on PyPI | 19:04 |
| devananda | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-ironicclient | 19:04 |
| romcheg1 | w00t | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | and its already landed in OoO's setup-clienttools | 19:04 |
| devananda | and we have an I-1 release tagged | 19:04 |
| devananda | https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-1 | 19:04 |
| devananda | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/icehouse-1 | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60879 | 19:04 |
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| devananda | though we didn't go through the whole release process this time -- no tarball, etc -- this updates our status on LP and closes all the FixCOmmitted bugs, etc | 19:04 |
| devananda | so from here on, we need to be mindful of targeting work to the release cycles | 19:04 |
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| NobodyCam | awesome progress everyone!!!! | 19:05 |
| devananda | if you think you'll fix a bug (or think the bug *needs* to be fixed) by a given milestone, please tag it accordingly | 19:05 |
| devananda | same for blueprints | 19:05 |
| devananda | that's all my announcements :) | 19:05 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 19:05 |
| NobodyCam | any other anniuncements? | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | who is not going to be here over the holiday? | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | *announcements | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:06 |
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| lucasagomes | I'm off from 21 of december to 2 of january | 19:06 |
| romcheg1 | What holiday? | 19:06 |
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| NobodyCam | romcheg1: lol | 19:07 |
| lucasagomes | going to brazil for xmas and new years | 19:07 |
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| lucasagomes | (I mean 23 of december, 21 is saturday) | 19:07 |
| dkehn | lucasagomes: now thats a holiday | 19:07 |
| romcheg1 | NobodyCam: Ah, we just don't have those ones :) | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | hp is off but I should be around most of the time.. I will be away 28-2nd | 19:07 |
| lucasagomes | dkehn, :) | 19:07 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: i just bumped 1259269 to I-2. did you mean to target it for I-1? | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | ok moving on | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Outstanding, in-progress or Action Item updates | 19:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Outstanding, in-progress or Action Item updates (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:08 | |
| dkehn | will be around, except for the obvious days, but I will be here | 19:08 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, I've a review in progress for that bug already | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg1: any updates on devstack & tempest? | 19:08 |
| romcheg1 | There are updates | 19:09 |
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| romcheg1 | Today I got +2 for my patch to Infra-config | 19:09 |
| romcheg1 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53917/ | 19:09 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: sure. but I-1 is already closed. we can't target bugs for a closed release (unless the intent is to do a backport... which is overkill right now) | 19:09 |
| romcheg1 | I also moved Ironic jobs to the experimental pipeline _both_ for tempest and ironic | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: can you backport from 0.0.1 release? | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:10 |
| romcheg1 | clarkb suggesed to do that :) | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg1: ya that makes perfect sense | 19:10 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: sorry, side conversation there -- i was referring to the Ironic Icehouse-1 release (which was tagged over the weekend) not the client 0.0.1. lucas and I moved that to another room so we dont distract here any more | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, gotcha ah cheers for bumping it to i2 :) | 19:11 |
| devananda | romcheg1: awesome! | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | ahh | 19:11 |
| romcheg1 | I hope we will have devstack tests for Ironic before the new year :) | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg1, fingers crossed :) | 19:12 |
| devananda | romcheg1: you're just using the fake driver, right? | 19:12 |
| devananda | romcheg1: to do basic api tests (CRUD of resources) | 19:12 |
| romcheg1 | yes, I do | 19:12 |
| devananda | cool | 19:12 |
| romcheg1 | Need to merge the basic ecosystem first | 19:12 |
| devananda | yea | 19:12 |
| romcheg1 | Then I'll be able to think about more advanced testing | 19:12 |
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| NobodyCam | but we are getting there.. :) | 19:13 |
| devananda | I will talk with infra soon about resuming the work on devstack-gate testing with pxe+ssh driver | 19:13 |
| devananda | that is ,in theory, possible within a single devstack-gate VM, but it will take some reworking of devstack-gate scripts | 19:13 |
| romcheg1 | We will need TripleO cloud for that | 19:13 |
| devananda | not necessarily ;) | 19:13 |
| romcheg1 | not so cool :) | 19:14 |
| devananda | on the consistent hashing, just a brief update | 19:14 |
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| devananda | some bits have landed, and I need to rework some of the patches based on feedback (thanks everyone who's reviewed them!) | 19:14 |
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| devananda | should be able to do that today or tomorrow | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | nova driver updates. | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | woo hoo :) | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | I pushed a new patch to the nova driver review friday | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | that should allow a deploy from nova to go thru the steps | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | also should power on / off the node | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | thou deploy is still just a log "CAll deploy here" | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | fyi: | 19:17 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, :( now the trigger became a blocker | 19:17 |
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| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/51328/ | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | I gotta submit a review for that soon | 19:18 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: is that work (add deploy to client) blocked on anything right now? | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, not to trigger it | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | but we still need pxe to control the power on/off (based on that diagram) | 19:18 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1azAWh0ZfhDqEUsC14ZEBawbnAmdQ2_yl3CfOdDbPvOk/edit | 19:19 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: that one ??^^^ | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | btw, /state/provision will be the trigger is that correct? | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, that's correct :) | 19:19 |
| NobodyCam | we should add all the state changes to that | 19:20 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: it does -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/50409/ | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, ah I think I missed something then | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | so I think we are fine | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | looks like most are already there | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | I will add the trigger | 19:20 |
| devananda | awesome | 19:21 |
| NobodyCam | awesome | 19:21 |
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| NobodyCam | any Q/c on nova-driver? | 19:21 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: states/power && states/provision -- based on our last discussion, I think thats fine. | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | magic :) | 19:22 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: we should also start thinking very soon about how to avoid making incompatible changes in our API and client lib | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg1: yuriyz: anything on Integration testing scheme? | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 19:22 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, yea, we were fine before just adding stuff | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | but I had to refactor the name of 2 attributes on the API side | 19:22 |
| devananda | like moving /nodes/xxx/state --> /nodes/xxx/states. this is an incompat change. | 19:23 |
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| lucasagomes | oh yea that as well :/ | 19:23 |
| devananda | right | 19:23 |
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| devananda | we can easily alias it, or have /state return a redirect to /states | 19:23 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: should changes to api be accompanied by client changes too? | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | that makes sense, now that we have a release we should be more strict on those changes | 19:24 |
| devananda | technically, i dont think we need to be careful about this until Icehouse is actually released | 19:24 |
| romcheg1 | As soon as we have devstack tests running for every patch, accidentally breaking API will be harder | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg1: ++ :) | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg1, indeed | 19:24 |
| romcheg1 | However, we cannot cover 100% of the API now | 19:25 |
| devananda | and that ^ :) | 19:25 |
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| NobodyCam | any updates on the Integration testing scheme? | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | (it's on the agenda) | 19:25 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: yes, changes to the API service should be accompanied by changes to the client. but that's not really the whole story | 19:25 |
| romcheg1 | Hm, I'm not sure I put it to the Agenda | 19:26 |
| romcheg1 | I told everything in the beginning of the meeting | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: so at min reff in the commit moessage to accompaning api / client change? | 19:26 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: we can't just go making an incompatible change to the API once we have tests in tempest, and same once we have testign for the nova-ironic driver. | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg1: great !!! | 19:26 |
| devananda | by "cant" i mean, literally, we CANT. Gerrit won't let us :) | 19:26 |
| romcheg1 | Ah, that was one of my coleagues, who put that there | 19:27 |
| romcheg1 | vkozhukalov: Are you around? | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ahh :) | 19:27 |
| romcheg1 | I will poke him tomorrow | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg1: his in #ironic | 19:28 |
| vkozhukalov | romcheg1, yes, I am | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | welcome vkozhukalov | 19:28 |
| devananda | vkozhukalov: hi! we just started chatting about this in -ironic, i think. | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | vkozhukalov: I was check on updates to Integration testing scheme | 19:29 |
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| NobodyCam | checking even | 19:29 |
| vkozhukalov | right now we with agordeev are working on this | 19:29 |
| vkozhukalov | we wasted a lot of time just to understand how to make it | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | vkozhukalov: awesome :) | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | ok we'll move on | 19:30 |
| vkozhukalov | I think we'll send pull request with some kind of functional smoke test tomorrow or day after | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | we may have covered most of this but: | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Python-IronicClient | 19:31 |
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| NobodyCam | any thing else on the client? | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | idk if there's much to cover here :) apart from the release and some changes to reflect the api changes | 19:32 |
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| lucasagomes | that was said already | 19:32 |
| devananda | it's on PyPI. it's in tripleo-image-elements. and some small changes in the pipeline for it. | 19:32 |
| devananda | that's about it, i think :) | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | ya | 19:32 |
| rloo | is there docn for the client? | 19:32 |
| devananda | there's --help :) | 19:32 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: did you write a man page for it? | 19:32 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: we should create a wiki page for it | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, I promess I will revive that man page review | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, I have one review abandoned I will revive it | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | I need to find osme time | 19:33 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: i dont see the use of a wiki page for the client | 19:33 |
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| NobodyCam | ok | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52902/ | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | I've been using --help | 19:33 |
| rloo | ha ha, yes, I know there's help, just wanted to know if we're responsible for more than that :-) | 19:33 |
| devananda | ah | 19:34 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, I think so | 19:34 |
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| NobodyCam | :) | 19:34 |
| devananda | i am not aware, as far as the client, taht we need more | 19:34 |
| devananda | rloo: however, we will need deployer docs for the ironic services | 19:34 |
| rloo | in that case, forget the man page? | 19:35 |
| rloo | yes, deployer docs would be good. | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | rloo: I would forget the man page | 19:35 |
| devananda | the last sprint (feature freeze window after I-3) is meant for bug fixing and doc writing, but anything before that is great, too | 19:35 |
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| NobodyCam | *would NOT... | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:35 |
| lucasagomes | I think that any docs would be welcome | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: yes!!! ++ | 19:36 |
| rloo | yes, docs are great, but useless if they are out of date. | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:36 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, indeed | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | good to move on? | 19:36 |
| devananda | mordred: in general, do / should client packages install a man page? it looks like they don't. | 19:36 |
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| lucasagomes | I think swift has a manpage | 19:37 |
| lucasagomes | maybe the only one | 19:37 |
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| lucasagomes | https://github.com/openstack/python-swiftclient/blob/master/doc/manpages/swift.1 | 19:37 |
| devananda | yea, let's move on. I dont think we need a man page. and if it's not automatically generated from code, it's just goign to get stale and therefor we should not have it | 19:37 |
| notmyname | lucasagomes: in general https://github.com/openstack/swift/tree/master/doc/manpages | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | I would think it good to have a man page | 19:37 |
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| NobodyCam | #topic Nova-driver | 19:37 |
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| NobodyCam | we've covered most of this | 19:38 |
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| lucasagomes | notmyname, thanks :) | 19:38 |
| devananda | notmyname: is that manpage for the swift client or server? | 19:38 |
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| devananda | nvm. both :) | 19:38 |
| NobodyCam | any ting on the Nova driver? Q/ C? | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | moving on then | 19:39 |
| NobodyCam | #topic API discussion | 19:39 |
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| devananda | I think we already covered deploy in the API | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: devananda: anything else | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | :-p | 19:40 |
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| lucasagomes | there's one topic about the API, which I put on the FFT but might worth talking here | 19:40 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, the lock break | 19:40 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: yea, go for it. | 19:40 |
| devananda | we need to address that | 19:40 |
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| lucasagomes | so is the API right to expose a way to break the lock of a node? | 19:40 |
| lucasagomes | if yes, where it should live on the API | 19:40 |
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| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/55549/ | 19:41 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: are you thinking say from nova driver if some thing like a deploy time out occurs? | 19:41 |
| yuriyz | IMO only break existing lock, not expose | 19:41 |
| yuriyz | read my comments on the patch | 19:42 |
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| mordred | devananda: you should install a manpage if you, you know have one. otherwise, I doubt that "man ironic" is going to do much good for anyone | 19:42 |
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| devananda | if we allow a TaskManager lock to be broken by a simple API call alone, it will be too easy to abuse. | 19:43 |
| devananda | mordred: thanks | 19:43 |
| rloo | who has access to ironic commands. anyone? | 19:43 |
| NobodyCam | lets switch to : | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | #topic open discussion / FFT | 19:44 |
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| NobodyCam | open mic | 19:44 |
| devananda | if we create an API endpoint that allows POST or PATCH to unset the reservation, but we never expose that there is such a resource, it's rather confusing | 19:44 |
| devananda | rloo: ironic is, today, admin-only | 19:44 |
| devananda | rloo: which means anyone with the admin bit set in keystone | 19:45 |
| rloo | so 'too easy to abuse' by admin folks. | 19:45 |
| devananda | rloo: "if you build it, they will come" | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, it's about if the conductors die while helding the lock of the node | 19:45 |
| rloo | we can't trust admin to be careful... | 19:45 |
| devananda | rloo: right | 19:45 |
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| devananda | lucasagomes: yes. so, here's an idea | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | yuriyz, you mean like having it hidden? | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | yuriyz, we need to expose it to be able to break via the API | 19:46 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: what if we allow a lock to be broken IFF the conductor holding it is dead (last heartbeat > heartbeat_timeout ago) | 19:46 |
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| yuriyz | admin have already *status fields | 19:46 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, ++, we need some sanity check | 19:46 |
| devananda | yuriyz: ^ and see my last comment on your patch (from friday) | 19:46 |
| devananda | yuriyz: admin does not currently see any indication of reservation | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: devananda: how would nova driver handle a time out during a deploy? | 19:47 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: nova will destroy the instance | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | and that would break the lock?? | 19:47 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: this can actually be triggered at a higher layer in nova's stack. the nova-ironic driver could be sitting in a wait loop, and the scheduler could send a destroy() call down to it | 19:48 |
| lucasagomes | yuriyz, yea, we should expose that reservation field as an attribute on the API object so when people GET /nodes/<uuid> they can see the reservation | 19:48 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: this is, last I checked, still an issue with noav-baremetal .... | 19:48 |
| lucasagomes | we need to be able to GET -> document before PATCH -> document | 19:48 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: that won't currently break any lock. there's no way to interrupt an ongoing task in ironic. and I don't think we should worry about that now(). | 19:48 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: ack... on the NOW() but should be thought about ... imo | 19:49 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: eventually, we will want to be able to interrupt a deploy, or a format, or whatever ironic is doign that is interruptable (eg, NOT a firmware update) | 19:49 |
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| lucasagomes | I got one action last week to write a bp about it, it's on my todo list | 19:50 |
| devananda | the issue at hand is: how do we allow conductor-B to regain control of a node formerly controlled by the now-dead-conductor-A | 19:50 |
| NobodyCam | I can see breakable and unbrackable locks.. ie. a firmware update you would not with to stop because a admin set a time value to low | 19:50 |
| NobodyCam | s/with/want/ | 19:50 |
| * devananda resists the over-engineering-tendencies | 19:51 | |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | just food for thought | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | hehe let's make one condition for now... if the node is locked by a conductor which is _dead_ the lock can be breaked | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | broke* | 19:51 |
| lucasagomes | we know the conductor is dead based on the hearbeats | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | :) lucasagomes + I agree | 19:52 |
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| lucasagomes | we need to know first, where to expose it | 19:52 |
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| devananda | simple solution seems to me: expose 'reservation' on the GET document. allow PATCH to clear that field only, and add a check to ensure it can only be cleared if the conductor is dead | 19:52 |
| devananda | yuriyz: what do you think ^ ? | 19:52 |
| yuriyz | devananda, agree | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, +1 IF reservation is part of the document | 19:52 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: taht was the first part of my sentence :) | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | haha yea | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | ++ then | 19:53 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: ? | 19:53 |
| lucasagomes | was the impulse :P | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: could the secondary conductor for a node notice the primary is dead and do the take/ break from the periodic task? | 19:53 |
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| devananda | NobodyCam: yes. in principle, we can automate this and never expose it on the API | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | yuriyz, could change ur patch to add the reservation to the node api object please? | 19:54 |
| devananda | that _is_ another option | 19:54 |
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| yuriyz | ok | 19:54 |
| devananda | but automatic lock breaking was pretty strongly undesired at the summit | 19:54 |
| devananda | and so i'm hesitant to introduce it | 19:54 |
| devananda | (i think there were some good reasons against it) | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | do we have these arguments on a etherpad somewhere? | 19:55 |
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| NobodyCam | I dont recall them getting put on the ep | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | we may wan to see if we can gather them up and make a EP for lock breaking | 19:56 |
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| NobodyCam | any ting else in that last three minutes | 19:57 |
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| NobodyCam | gah | 19:57 |
| devananda | yuriyz: i think all the requirements for you to add the "check that conductor which holds teh lock is really dead, before breaking the lock" are already merged | 19:57 |
| NobodyCam | anything else in the last three minutes | 19:57 |
| devananda | yuriyz: actually, nvm. there is one more patch coming: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59795/ | 19:58 |
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| devananda | yuriyz: that'll change the way you get the list of active conductors | 19:58 |
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| NobodyCam | last minute of official time | 19:59 |
| devananda | I'll work on that today | 19:59 |
| rloo | so how can we prevent, or have such discussions, before a patch has gotten so far? | 19:59 |
| devananda | rloo: we can bring ideas up in IRC or on the ML, which I think we do | 20:00 |
| rloo | or maybe that's the nature of the beast. just wondering. | 20:00 |
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| devananda | rloo: but sometimes code speaks more clearly than anything else | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | ok going to wrap up the meeting | 20:00 |
| NobodyCam | thank you all!!! | 20:00 |
| rloo | before someone writes code, should they discuss in IRC? | 20:00 |
| devananda | rloo: it's not a bad idea ;) | 20:00 |
| lucasagomes | rloo, I think it depends on the change | 20:00 |
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| NobodyCam | great meeting | 20:01 |
| devananda | good meeting indeed -- let's move back to -ironic | 20:01 |
| devananda | thanks everyone! | 20:01 |
| lucasagomes | cheers | 20:01 |
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| NobodyCam | rloo: can we move this to #ironic | 20:01 |
| rloo | sure | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | thank you all | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 9 20:01:35 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-12-09-19.01.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-12-09-19.01.txt | 20:01 |
| bauzas | #startmeeting climate | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-12-09-19.01.log.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 9 20:01:40 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: climate)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'climate' | 20:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | o/ | 20:01 |
| DinaBelova | o/ | 20:01 |
| bauzas | o/ | 20:01 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | \o/ | 20:01 |
| NobodyCam | Sorry for the over run guys! | 20:02 |
| bauzas | sorry for this very late meeting | 20:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | NobodyCam, np | 20:02 |
| bauzas | NobodyCam: no pb :) | 20:02 |
| DinaBelova | NobodyCam, don't worry :) | 20:02 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 20:02 |
| bauzas | first time we're meeting this time | 20:02 |
| DinaBelova | ok, guys | 20:02 |
| bauzas | hoping the last one :) | 20:02 |
| DinaBelova | what's for agenda? | 20:02 |
| bauzas | so, let's be brief | 20:02 |
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| Nikolay_St | o/ | 20:03 |
| bauzas | temporary :) | 20:03 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay_St, hello) | 20:03 |
| bauzas | we're doing regulars at 1000UTC | 20:03 |
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| bauzas | so, the agenda : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Climate#Agenda_for_December_9_2013 | 20:03 |
| bauzas | #topic Action items from previous meeting | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: climate)" | 20:03 | |
| bauzas | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-12-02-10.02.html | 20:04 |
| DinaBelova | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-12-02-10.02.html | 20:04 |
| DinaBelova | ooops :) | 20:04 |
| DinaBelova | you were faster | 20:04 |
| DinaBelova | ) | 20:04 |
| bauzas | I count only a few missing actiosn | 20:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | all my action items done ;) | 20:04 |
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| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, cool | 20:04 |
| SergeyLukjanov | because of no action items O_O | 20:05 |
| DinaBelova | My too :) | 20:05 |
| DinaBelova | But I have ones | 20:05 |
| bauzas | Nikolay_St: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52296 | 20:05 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52296 | 20:05 |
| bauzas | oops | 20:05 |
| DinaBelova | We've reviewed it today, I suppose | 20:05 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49363/ | 20:05 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | and the last one was abandoned | 20:06 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, I've +2 for the new patch set | 20:06 |
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| bauzas | ok | 20:06 |
| DinaBelova | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59827/ | 20:06 |
| DinaBelova | It's ok for me | 20:06 |
| DinaBelova | that's the new version for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49363/ | 20:06 |
| bauzas | Nikolay_St: when do you plan to deliver new patchset for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52296 | 20:06 |
| bauzas | ? | 20:06 |
| DinaBelova | we just reviewd it, bauzas :) | 20:06 |
| DinaBelova | today, as I remember | 20:07 |
| Nikolay_St | bauzas: yeap | 20:07 |
| bauzas | ok, don't take further action then | 20:07 |
| DinaBelova | so I think tomorrow Nick will do it | 20:07 |
| DinaBelova | Nick? | 20:07 |
| bauzas | Nikolay_St: ? | 20:07 |
| Nikolay_St | bauzas: I don't take a look at it. Today I just rebased all this old patches about utils, trusts and vms | 20:07 |
| Nikolay_St | nothing new | 20:08 |
| Nikolay_St | so, tomorrow I'll read you comments | 20:08 |
| Nikolay_St | and work on it | 20:08 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, will you add new patchset tomorrow? | 20:08 |
| bauzas | ok, let's take action for this week | 20:08 |
| DinaBelova | ok | 20:08 |
| bauzas | #action Nikolay_St deliver new patchset for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/52296 | 20:08 |
| DinaBelova | +! | 20:08 |
| DinaBelova | +1** | 20:08 |
| bauzas | that's it for the prev. actiosn | 20:08 |
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| DinaBelova | Ok,let's move to the next | 20:09 |
| bauzas | we need some reviews to be prioritized | 20:09 |
| Nikolay_St | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59827/ - I'll review it tomorrow | 20:09 |
| bauzas | #action Nikolay_St review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59827/ | 20:09 |
| bauzas | ok thanks | 20:09 |
| DinaBelova | But I think it's almost ok with it :) | 20:10 |
| bauzas | could we agree to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57200/ asap ? | 20:10 |
| bauzas | policies ? | 20:10 |
| bauzas | I need this one for the Host Reservation Admin API | 20:10 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, tomorrow will take one more look on it | 20:10 |
| bauzas | #action DinaBelova Review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57200/ | 20:10 |
| bauzas | that's it for me | 20:10 |
| bauzas | any other reviews you want to prio. ? | 20:11 |
| SergeyLukjanov | bauzas, I'll take a look on it too | 20:11 |
| Nikolay_St | I think I can review it tomorrow too | 20:11 |
| bauzas | ok | 20:11 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 20:11 |
| Nikolay_St | :D | 20:11 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, add :D :) | 20:11 |
| DinaBelova | Ok | 20:11 |
| bauzas | any top prio review ? | 20:11 |
| bauzas | if not, moving to the next topic item | 20:11 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, I think not now | 20:11 |
| DinaBelova | +1 | 20:11 |
| Nikolay_St | also, I'll try to add new patchsets to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48002/ | 20:11 |
| Nikolay_St | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49142/ | 20:12 |
| bauzas | #topic blueprints scoped for 0.1 | 20:12 |
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| Nikolay_St | and test it on devstack | 20:12 |
| bauzas | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate | 20:12 |
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| bauzas | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/0.1.x | 20:12 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, I've made some steps to for our Launchpad to look good with 0.1.x | 20:12 |
| DinaBelova | yep | 20:13 |
| bauzas | yup, saw it | 20:13 |
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| bauzas | as it's pretty late for you guys, let's agree to send any concerns about 0.1 by email tomorrow | 20:13 |
| DinaBelova | I think it's ok for most of them | 20:13 |
| DinaBelova | +1 | 20:13 |
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| DinaBelova | Can think about nothing except sleeping :) | 20:14 |
| bauzas | sure, understand | 20:14 |
| Nikolay_St | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/remove-empty-copyrights - change it status to implemented | 20:14 |
| Nikolay_St | I can't remember my password for Launchpad( | 20:14 |
| bauzas | #agreed Discuss blueprints scope for 0.1 by email | 20:14 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and for the dates for 0.1 | 20:14 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay_St, really strange | 20:14 |
| bauzas | Nikolay_St: will do | 20:15 |
| DinaBelova | canonot see if Gerrit has dote it | 20:15 |
| DinaBelova | ** | 20:15 |
| DinaBelova | that should be automated | 20:15 |
| Nikolay_St | but it was merged | 20:15 |
| bauzas | #action bauzas fix status of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/climate/+spec/remove-empty-copyrights to implemened | 20:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | I'm proposing Dec 24 for code freeze for testing and Dec 26 for release | 20:15 |
| Nikolay_St | sounds good | 20:15 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, nice for me | 20:15 |
| SergeyLukjanov | the common Tue -Thu dating | 20:15 |
| bauzas | I have to discuss this with f_rossigneux | 20:15 |
| DinaBelova | afair, that's common for OpenStack projects | 20:16 |
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| DinaBelova | bauzas, ok | 20:16 |
| DinaBelova | Let us know about results asap | 20:16 |
| bauzas | sure | 20:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | if we'd like to postpone release than it should be at least mid Oct due to the ru holidays | 20:16 |
| DinaBelova | mid Oct?? | 20:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | mid Jan * | 20:16 |
| Nikolay_St | *thumbs up* | 20:16 |
| DinaBelova | ok | 20:16 |
| SergeyLukjanov | thinking about H release ;) | 20:17 |
| ogelbukh | haha | 20:17 |
| Nikolay_St | lol | 20:17 |
| bauzas | #action bauzas f_rossigneux Agree on delivery date | 20:17 |
| DinaBelova | Ok, I think that's it for this topic | 20:17 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas? | 20:17 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | like Jan 14, Jan 16 | 20:17 |
| bauzas | sure | 20:17 |
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| bauzas | #topic Open discussion | 20:17 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | devstack gate job is still under review | 20:18 |
| bauzas | I skipped the hooks discussion | 20:18 |
| DinaBelova | yes, saw it... | 20:18 |
| bauzas | SergeyLukjanov: I made +1 | 20:18 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and I currently have no time to complete devstack integration | 20:18 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | hope to return back to this task this week | 20:18 |
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| DinaBelova | bauzas, I think we may discuss that tomorrow day (hooks, I mean) | 20:18 |
| DinaBelova | In our channel | 20:18 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: yup, that was just a notice :) | 20:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | and I think that it's time to resurrect client reviews | 20:19 |
| DinaBelova | ok | 20:19 |
| bauzas | no precise things to raise | 20:19 |
| SergeyLukjanov | btw it could be released after the main release | 20:19 |
| DinaBelova | SergeyLukjanov, +2 | 20:19 |
| bauzas | please take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54285/ | 20:19 |
| bauzas | albeit it's WIP | 20:19 |
| DinaBelova | there are some Jenkins problems | 20:19 |
| Nikolay_St | and we need to start discussion about nova implementation (virtual resources) | 20:19 |
| bauzas | Nikolay_St: sure | 20:20 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay_St, I think it's almost decided thing | 20:20 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/54285/ is about hooks, not inheritance :) | 20:20 |
| bauzas | so, should you have time to take a look tomorrow, let's discuss on this afterwards :) | 20:20 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, sure | 20:20 |
| Nikolay_St | DinaBelova: I mean we need smth like a msg for NOVA-guys "Hey! Here we are!" | 20:21 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay_St, it would be amazing if you'll have POC for instance plugin using shelved instances | 20:21 |
| DinaBelova | because if it will be ok | 20:21 |
| DinaBelova | we need no more dirty hacks to Nova | 20:22 |
| Nikolay_St | I'll work on it this week | 20:22 |
| bauzas | Nikolay_St: Nova folks are already aware of our existence :) | 20:22 |
| DinaBelova | Would be great | 20:22 |
| Nikolay_St | and I hope everything will be okat | 20:22 |
| DinaBelova | Nikolay_St, cool | 20:22 |
| bauzas | Nikolay_St: there was a previous thread I opened on the ML about Nova interactions | 20:22 |
| DinaBelova | And also there were some discussions on summit, afair | 20:22 |
| bauzas | yup | 20:23 |
| DinaBelova | Ok | 20:23 |
| Nikolay_St | for first look I can't see anything what can fail, but you know how it can be :( | 20:23 |
| DinaBelova | Have we mentioned everything needed? | 20:23 |
| bauzas | we actually have tight integrations with Nova, esp. on the physical side plugin | 20:23 |
| bauzas | DinaBelova: yup | 20:23 |
| bauzas | think so | 20:23 |
| DinaBelova | ok, great | 20:23 |
| bauzas | time for you getting back to bed | 20:23 |
| DinaBelova | let's continue working tomorrow | 20:23 |
| DinaBelova | bauzas, yeee | 20:23 |
| bauzas | many many thanks for the effort | 20:23 |
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| DinaBelova | bye, guys! | 20:24 |
| Nikolay_St | ahahaha | 20:24 |
| bauzas | really appreciated | 20:24 |
| Nikolay_St | bye, all! | 20:24 |
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| bauzas | bye | 20:24 |
| bauzas | #endmeeting | 20:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 9 20:24:21 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-12-09-20.01.html | 20:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-12-09-20.01.txt | 20:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/climate/2013/climate.2013-12-09-20.01.log.html | 20:24 |
| SergeyLukjanov | have a good night guys :) | 20:24 |
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| mestery | yo | 21:00 |
| marun | oy | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
| nati_ueno | hi! | 21:00 |
| geoffarnold | awfully quiet around here | 21:00 |
| roaet | hi | 21:00 |
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| yamahata_ | hi | 21:00 |
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| dkehn | hi | 21:00 |
| Swami | hi all | 21:00 |
| shivh | hi all | 21:00 |
| mestery | markmcclain, the world traveler :P | 21:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 21:00 |
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| beagles | hi | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | mestery: I'm beginning to think this is an experiment to see what kind of colds I can pick up :) | 21:01 |
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| gongysh | hi | 21:01 |
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| rkukura | hi | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | armax, arosen, garyk, emagana, SumitNaiksatam, amotoki: ping | 21:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:02 |
| amotoki | hi | 21:02 |
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| roaet | mlavalle: ping :) | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 9 21:02:46 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | #topic Annoncements | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | #info Icehouse-1 was tagged and released last week | 21:03 |
| markmcclain | #link http://tarballs.openstack.org/neutron/neutron-2014.1.b1.tar.gz | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | It's now time to turn our focus onto I-2 | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | #info Icehouse-2 release date is Jan 23rd | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | #info code submission deadline is Jan 21st | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | Don't let the January date sneak up on you | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | with the holidays approaching for some the project velocity will slow down a bit | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | so getting an early start on I-2 work is a must | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | #info The first phase of 3rd Party Testing is to be completed by Jan 23rd | 21:06 |
| markmcclain | We've already got several in our community working on setting this up | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | if you have questions feel free to ask in our IRC channel or on the ML | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | Any questions before we dive into the agenda? | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:08 |
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| markmcclain | anteaya: has gone through and updated the gate blocking bug list in the agenda | 21:08 |
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| markmcclain | anteaya: any we need to highlight? | 21:08 |
| anteaya | mlavalle: has an update for https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1251448 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1251448 in neutron "BadRequest: Multiple possible networks found, use a Network ID to be more specific. " [High,New] | 21:09 |
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| mlavalle | yes…. This one is like a mutating virus….. it has several manifestations | 21:09 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: should we split out the known variants of this bug? | 21:10 |
| mlavalle | it is triggered by a tempest tests that fails in it setup or teardown method | 21:10 |
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| mlavalle | once that happens, a network is not deleted and all the other tests after that that try to create an instance connected to a network fail | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | do we know why the tearDown fails() | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | ? | 21:11 |
| mlavalle | right now, the test triggering the problem is a vpnaas test that has a bug | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | ah | 21:11 |
| markmcclain | did you loop nati_ueno in to help? | 21:11 |
| mlavalle | earlier today I filed this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1259282 | 21:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1259282 in tempest "Neutron VPN API test failing during VPN service creation" [Undecided,New] | 21:12 |
| mlavalle | it's an easy fix…. I will submit the patch tonight or tomorrow morning | 21:12 |
| markmcclain | I like easy fixes :) | 21:12 |
| nati_ueno | mlavalle: let me jump in this issue | 21:12 |
| mlavalle | nati_ueno: sure, go ahead | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle thanks for triaging it | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: thanks for working on it | 21:13 |
| mlavalle | once we fix this one, we are likely to encounter another manifestation of the problem….. | 21:13 |
| gongysh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60756/ | 21:13 |
| mlavalle | the specific one will depend on the fixes to race conditions that salv-oralando, armax and marun are working on | 21:14 |
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| mlavalle | i'll keep on eye on it | 21:14 |
| mlavalle | and debug it | 21:14 |
| mlavalle | i'll keep the team informed | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle: thanks for updating | 21:14 |
| marun | mlavalle: thank you! | 21:14 |
| rkukura | mlavalle: How regularly do you see DB lock timeouts in the logs for these failures, such as when trying to delete the port that eventually prevents the network from being deleted? | 21:14 |
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| mlavalle | rkukura: a week ago that was happening a lot…. not in the current mutation | 21:15 |
| anteaya | if we can move to the next bug? | 21:15 |
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| emagana | emagana is late... sorry but I am here! | 21:15 |
| mlavalle | but let's see what happens after nati_ueno submits his fix | 21:15 |
| anteaya | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1210483 needs a champion | 21:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1210483 in neutron "ServerAddressesTestXML.test_list_server_addresses FAIL" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:15 |
| anteaya | it is also a critical neutron bug | 21:16 |
| anteaya | anyone willing to dig into this bug a bit? | 21:16 |
| marun | anteaya: it looks like a bug we are already working on from different angles (ip assignment race) | 21:17 |
| nati_ueno | mlavalle: you mean ML2 fix for port deletion? | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | marun: agreeds | 21:17 |
| anteaya | marun: okay, should the status of the bug reflect that? | 21:17 |
| mlavalle | nati_ueno: yes | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | anteaya: I'll update it | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | and link to the correct other bug | 21:17 |
| anteaya | awesome thanks markmcclain | 21:18 |
| anteaya | so that is it from me for gate blocking bugs | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | #action markmcclain to update 1210483 | 21:18 |
| nati_ueno | mlavalle: Thank you for your let me recall it | 21:18 |
| anteaya | I didn't look at the critical bugs | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | anteaya: thanks for the update | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | Any other bugs the team should be tracking? | 21:18 |
| nati_ueno | mlavalle: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/53478/ this one ? | 21:18 |
| anteaya | I do want to say awesome job to everyone for the last few weeks adressing these | 21:18 |
| anteaya | markmcclain: did you want to address the critical bugs? | 21:18 |
| anteaya | I didn't look at them myself | 21:19 |
| anteaya | I can for next week though, if you would like | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | yeah that will work | 21:19 |
| anteaya | k | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | I know the current state of the work on them for now | 21:19 |
| anteaya | k | 21:19 |
| anteaya | should we? | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | the LP states should be current | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | we've still got a bit to cover | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | so if anyone has questions feel free to ping the IRC channel after the meeting | 21:20 |
| markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:21 |
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| markmcclain | emagana: hi | 21:21 |
| emagana | markmcclain: Hi There! | 21:21 |
| emagana | I just updated the wiki with the status of the High priority tickets | 21:21 |
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| emagana | so far I am the only lazy one! | 21:21 |
| * markmcclain refreshes | 21:22 | |
| emagana | not sure if you want me go over each one? | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | looks like there's an assignee for each | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | so not sure we need to go into depth this week | 21:23 |
| emagana | but I want to remind everyone about the doc bug day on Dec 20th!!! Please, attend it!! :-) | 21:23 |
| annegentle | woo for doc bug day! | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | #info Doc Bug Day Decemeber 20th | 21:23 |
| nati_ueno | doc bug day! | 21:24 |
| emagana | ok, I will be sure we make progress this week! | 21:24 |
| emagana | s/we/I | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | great.. thanks for updating | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | #topic Nova Parity | 21:24 |
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| markmcclain | beagles: hi | 21:24 |
| beagles | hi! | 21:25 |
| beagles | so... | 21:25 |
| beagles | there has been some interest in documenting mapping nova network deployments to neutron... | 21:25 |
| beagles | I've created a wiki as noted in the agenda as a starting point | 21:26 |
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| markmcclain | awesome | 21:26 |
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| beagles | because so much has been going on it has been hard to track everything that is relevant to parity... but I'm pulling together everything in another wiki... also indicated on the agenda | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | perfect.. I'll take a look at it in the morning | 21:28 |
| beagles | while I'd love to be all rainbows... I/we have to figure out how to map where we are to where we need to get ... | 21:28 |
| beagles | it's a little chaotic at the moment | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | understandable… want to sync up later this week? | 21:29 |
| anteaya | beagles: will you be around in channel this week for questions? | 21:29 |
| beagles | and that is pretty much what I'll be focusing on as much as I can until I'm satisfied :) | 21:29 |
| beagles | anteaya, yup | 21:29 |
| anteaya | great | 21:29 |
| anteaya | I'll find you | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | beagles: ok… feel to ask for help in the channel if you need to parallelize some tasks | 21:29 |
| beagles | actually you can ping me any time... if I can't answer right away, I'll say so but I'm really great at getting distracted so you have a good chance :) | 21:29 |
| beagles | markmcclain, ack | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | hehe | 21:30 |
| beagles | what the | 21:30 |
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| beagles | sorry | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:30 |
| mlavalle | beagles: a few months ago I put together this ether pad, regarding gate-tempest-devstack-vm-neutron-full gate job: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-quantum-full | 21:30 |
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| mlavalle | I think rosella_s you and I should talk to coordinate efforts | 21:31 |
| beagles | mlavalle, yeah... I have the tab open to plagari... borrow from in a bit ;) | 21:31 |
| rossella_s | mlavalle: agreed | 21:31 |
| beagles | mlavalle, agreed | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | great | 21:31 |
| mlavalle | much of what is failing in that job are tests that were designed forr nova-network that don't translate to neutron so easily | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | this is good segue | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | #topic Tempest | 21:32 |
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| beagles | heh | 21:32 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: looks like the grenade patch is moving along nicely | 21:33 |
| mlavalle | so, as I said last week, I put together a wiki page for new contributors who want to help in the API tests effort | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle: awesome | 21:33 |
| anteaya | the grenade patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/59039/ | 21:33 |
| mlavalle | please look at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/TempestAPITests | 21:33 |
| EmilienM | anteaya: almost merged | 21:33 |
| mlavalle | I am asking for feedback from this team and the Tempest team as well | 21:33 |
| EmilienM | got last recommendations from infra-core | 21:33 |
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| anteaya | EmilienM: \o/ | 21:34 |
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| anteaya | mlavalle: great job on this page | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | mlavalle: thanks for putting this together | 21:35 |
| mlavalle | please feel free to make any changes you guys see fit | 21:35 |
| anteaya | a good set of instructions for getting started | 21:35 |
| anteaya | s/guys/folks | 21:35 |
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| mlavalle | I am going to let a few days pass…. after that I will send an email to the ML to start getting recruits | 21:35 |
| anteaya | mlavalle: what are you waiting for? | 21:35 |
| anteaya | no harm in emailing now, unless you have a specific concern | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | +1 no need to wait | 21:36 |
| mlavalle | just letting people give feedback | 21:36 |
| anteaya | in which case voice it so we can address it | 21:36 |
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| mlavalle | ok, i'll send the email later today | 21:36 |
| anteaya | they can do so during the ml thread discussion | 21:36 |
| anteaya | mlavalle: awesome, thanks | 21:36 |
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| mlavalle | I also had a conversation with rosella_s earlier today | 21:37 |
| mlavalle | regarding the gate job I mentioned to beagles | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:37 |
| mlavalle | trying to get everybody on the same page | 21:37 |
| anteaya | mlavalle: can you link us to the conversation? | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | thanks for coordinating | 21:38 |
| anteaya | so we can be on the same page too | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | we can chat about this after meeting because I'm concerned that we're running short on tie | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | *time | 21:38 |
| anteaya | k | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | Anything other items tempest items? | 21:38 |
| mlavalle | i'm done | 21:39 |
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| markmcclain | mlavalle: thanks for coordinating and updating | 21:39 |
| markmcclain | #topic IPv6 | 21:39 |
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| markmcclain | sc68cal: hi | 21:39 |
| sc68cal | hello | 21:39 |
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| sc68cal | So, we're making some headway on the dnsmasq/dhcp side of things - | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | great | 21:40 |
| sc68cal | Big show stopping bug is this one | 21:40 |
| sc68cal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1257446 | 21:40 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1257446 in neutron "Creating a dual-stacked network causes dhcp for both stacks to fail" [Medium,Triaged] | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | error in the config file? | 21:40 |
| sc68cal | Basically if you create two subnets, one v4 and one v6, dnsmasq is invoked with bad command line opts | 21:40 |
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| markmcclain | interesting | 21:41 |
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| sc68cal | For our network deployment - we are looking to do a slaac mode, so that dnsmasq is not even provisioned on the v6 side | 21:41 |
| sc68cal | since we have northbound router doing RAs | 21:41 |
| sc68cal | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ipv6-provider-nets-slaac | 21:41 |
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| sc68cal | But | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | yeah I do know that some want DHCPv6 | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | so we'll have to support that use case at some point in time | 21:41 |
| sc68cal | That same code that triggers disabling dnsmasq, we want to make it so you can do dhcpv6 and whatever else dnsmasq supports | 21:42 |
| sc68cal | make it configurable, etc. | 21:42 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:42 |
| sc68cal | Next bug | 21:42 |
| sc68cal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1251235 | 21:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1251235 in nova "IPv6 DAD failure due to hairpinning" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:42 |
| sc68cal | sort of related to nova-network parity | 21:42 |
| beagles | yeah.. I saw that | 21:42 |
| sc68cal | So, Nova turns on hairpinning on the bridge interface which breaks IPV6 dad | 21:42 |
| sc68cal | but we're having some back and forth about how to fix it - I did it one way, then another, got -1's from different peolpe | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:43 |
| sc68cal | My thought is to possibly toss it onto the ML for discussion. | 21:43 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: +1 | 21:43 |
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| markmcclain | makes the most sense | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | Anything other items we need to discuss this week? | 21:43 |
| sc68cal | Not at this point, but feedback from -core is always appreciated | 21:44 |
| sc68cal | I'm doing a lot of work that makes it "work" for me, with eye towards wider community | 21:44 |
| sc68cal | but it's always nice to have some other peolpe checking | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | agreed.. I'll add it to my queue for the morning | 21:44 |
| markmcclain | sc68cal: thanks for updating | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:45 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura/mestery: hi | 21:45 |
| mestery | hi | 21:45 |
| rkukura | hi | 21:45 |
| rkukura | mestery: go ahead | 21:45 |
| mestery | OK | 21:45 |
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| mestery | We're continuing to discuss ML2 in the weekly ML2 meeting, which was moved to Wednesdays at 1600UTC on #openstack-meeting-alt | 21:45 |
| mestery | This week, we're going to discuss the blueprint ovs-firewall-driver in more detail. | 21:46 |
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| mestery | There are some folks interested in that area, and it makes sense to see how that fits into ML2. | 21:46 |
| mestery | Other than that, we're also looking at this review still: https://review.openstack.org/37893 | 21:46 |
| mestery | This is the "Extra Port Info" for TypeDrivers. | 21:47 |
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| mestery | rkukura: Did I miss anything else urgent from ML2? | 21:47 |
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| rkukura | On the last topic, looking for feedback on letting TypeDrivers define arbitrary attributes | 21:47 |
| rkukura | beyond just physical_network and segmentation_id | 21:48 |
| rkukura | this forces moving from provder extension to multiprovider | 21:48 |
| rkukura | so please chime in if you care | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | arbitrary attributes are always tricky | 21:48 |
| mestery | Thanks for bringing that one up rkukura. | 21:48 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: have you taken a look from the API perspective? | 21:49 |
| rkukura | with multiprovider, they are in list of dicts, so not an issue for API | 21:49 |
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| markmcclain | ok | 21:49 |
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| rkukura | so the question is really whether to drop the old provider extension (eventually) or keep it going for single-segment networks that don't have extra attributes | 21:50 |
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| rkukura | there's an email thread at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-December/021117.html | 21:50 |
| rkukura | that's all for ml2 I think | 21:50 |
| * mestery nods in agreement. | 21:51 | |
| markmcclain | Thanks for updating and make sure to chime in on the thread for those that have throughts on the issue | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | #topic VPN | 21:51 |
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| hemanthravi | last weeks IRC there was mention of a webex to discuss tempest reqmts for ML2: Is there a recording of this? | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | I saw that the WIP for SSL API has been proposed | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | SSL-VPN API patch is under review. | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | yes | 21:52 |
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| nati_ueno | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/58897/ | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | hemanthravi: to my knowledge no | 21:52 |
| mestery | hemanthravi: I have not set that up yet, I need to do that yet this week, FYI. | 21:52 |
| hemanthravi | thx, will look for it on the ML | 21:52 |
| anteaya | hemanthravi mestery we have asterisk set up for meetings, it is an opensource tool | 21:53 |
| mestery | anteaya: thanks, will ping you on that. | 21:53 |
| * beagles snickers | 21:53 | |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: besides asking for folks to review anything else to update? | 21:53 |
| nati_ueno | Rajesh Mohan is working on agent implementation for that API | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | great! | 21:53 |
| anteaya | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Conferencing | 21:53 |
| beagles | anteaya, used to work for Digium | 21:54 |
| nati_ueno | We can reuse most of code in ipsec, so code should be small. | 21:54 |
| nati_ueno | That's all from me | 21:54 |
| * mestery now knows to ping beagles for help with asterisk. :) | 21:54 | |
| beagles | heheh | 21:54 |
| Swami | nati_ueno: Did we get any closure on where to store the certificates | 21:54 |
| anteaya | :D | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: thanks for the update | 21:54 |
| amotoki | nati_ueno: it looks a separate extension from IPsec VPN. Do you have a plan to merge them with service provider? | 21:54 |
| nati_ueno | Swami: yes we will have application independent resoruces | 21:55 |
| nati_ueno | amotoki: API should be separated because same service impl didn't support every vpns | 21:55 |
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| Swami | nati_ueno:thanks | 21:55 |
| nati_ueno | amotoki: I'm thinking to separate IPsec and VPNService | 21:55 |
| amotoki | nati_ueno: thanks. | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: feel free to share your idea on ML for discussion | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | ok running short of time | 21:56 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: sure | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60699 | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | one item up for review and SumitNaiksatam and I need to sync up | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | Anything else to add this week? | 21:56 |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi, yeah garyduan posted the patch | 21:56 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | and we markmcclain we need to get your input on the proposed blueprints | 21:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thats it, since we are running short on time | 21:57 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. whens the next subteam meeting? | 21:57 |
| SumitNaiksatam | wednesday | 21:58 |
| SumitNaiksatam | 10 AM PST | 21:58 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. I'll be on a plane… I'll try to sync up with up tomorrow | 21:58 |
| anteaya | SumitNaiksatam: if you can, try to use utc for time | 21:58 |
| anteaya | it is easier for the group | 21:58 |
| gongysh | SumitNaiksatam: what is the utc time? | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | Hi guys I am really late - anything you needed from me | 21:58 |
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| markmcclain | 1800UTC | 21:59 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: yeah its mentioned on the meetings page | 21:59 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: nothing new added to your queue | 21:59 |
| gongysh | 1800UTC is too early for Chinese guys. | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 22:00 |
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| salv-orlando | markmcclain: yeee christmas came early | 22:00 |
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| anteaya | gongysh: what time range is better for your location? | 22:00 |
| gongysh | we are at UTC+8 | 22:00 |
| marun | gongysh: you'll have to fight with europe, they get screwed too | 22:00 |
| anteaya | gongysh: so what time range is better? | 22:01 |
| marun | 5am for cst right? | 22:01 |
| anteaya | when wanting another option, it is helpful to offer an alternative | 22:01 |
| * salv-orlando love the assumption that weird hours are not suitable for us | 22:01 | |
| salv-orlando | us = US | 22:01 |
| marun | anteaya: I don't think there is a good solution, honestly. When I was in UTC+2, midnight meetings | 22:01 |
| anteaya | there is no good solution | 22:01 |
| marun | anteaya: When I'm in JST, 6am | 22:01 |
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| gongysh | I think UTC21 + | 22:02 |
| nati_ueno | I have question about 3rd party CI. | 22:02 |
| marun | anteaya: the only people that have it easy are in north america | 22:02 |
| nati_ueno | To support Router and Security group extension is mandatory? | 22:02 |
| anteaya | but it is helpful to have information to consider | 22:02 |
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| anteaya | and I agree, having flexibility for meeting times helps all contributors | 22:02 |
| gongysh | better 22:00, this is the current time. | 22:02 |
| salv-orlando | We should move to the moon. As it's tidally locked, time zones would count nothing there. | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: no those are not required to be supported by a plugin | 22:02 |
| marun | salv-orlando: well, you're an outlier. people in israel aren't fans of midnight | 22:02 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: OK Thanks | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | marun: speaking of which.. it is midnight | 22:03 |
| emagana | nati_ueno: Thanks for asking, I had that concern as well. | 22:03 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | and we're out of time this week | 22:03 |
| salv-orlando | marun: I'm not saying I like it; it's right in the middle of the only productive hours I have! | 22:03 |
| * salv-orlando s/only/most/ | 22:03 | |
| nati_ueno | emagana: your welcome :) | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | Thanks everyone for stopping by and talk to everyone on the ML and IRC | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 9 22:03:47 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:03 |
| Swami | bye | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-09-21.02.html | 22:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-09-21.02.txt | 22:03 |
| nati_ueno | bye! | 22:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-12-09-21.02.log.html | 22:03 |
| salv-orlando | adieeuuuuu | 22:03 |
| roaet | thanks! | 22:03 |
| emagana | ciao ciao | 22:04 |
| mestery | thanks! | 22:04 |
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| Makdaam | bye | 22:04 |
| rkukura | bye | 22:04 |
| armax | bye | 22:04 |
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| markmcclain | night | 22:04 |
| gongysh | markmcclain: can u re-review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60195/, I think it is on the right way now. | 22:04 |
| mlavalle | emagana: adios paisano | 22:04 |
| markmcclain | gongysh: I'll take a look in teh morning | 22:04 |
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| gongysh | markmcclain: thanks | 22:04 |
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| gongysh | SumitNaiksatam: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60190/ what is your idea, how to make it going? | 22:06 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | gongysh: the plan for doing this is mentioned in the blueprint and discussed at the summit | 22:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | gongysh: this is not a bug, its a feature | 22:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | gongysh: we want to make sure that we can support L2 firewalls as well | 22:07 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | gongysh: we can chat on the -neutron channel if you need to | 22:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | gongysh: there might be another meeting coming up here | 22:09 |
| gongysh | ok | 22:09 |
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| Swami | hi | 22:11 |
| hemanthravi | swami: hi | 22:11 |
| Swami | hi | 22:11 |
| Swami | #startmeeting Distributed_virtual_router | 22:12 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Dec 9 22:12:01 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Swami. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:12 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:12 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'distributed_virtual_router' | 22:12 |
| Swami | sylvian:ping | 22:12 |
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| Swami | robinwang:ping | 22:12 |
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| Swami | I may have to end the meeting, since I had a conflict. So I will meet you all on Wednesday 15.00 UTC at #openstack-meeting-alt. | 22:14 |
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| Swami | I have updated the Google doc with more information and added to the blueprint whiteboard discussion, if anyone had any questions please feel free to send me an email. | 22:15 |
| Swami | #endmeeting | 22:15 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Dec 9 22:15:18 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:15 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2013/distributed_virtual_router.2013-12-09-22.12.html | 22:15 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2013/distributed_virtual_router.2013-12-09-22.12.txt | 22:15 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/distributed_virtual_router/2013/distributed_virtual_router.2013-12-09-22.12.log.html | 22:15 |
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