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| NobodyCam | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:00 |
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| NobodyCam | #chair devananda | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | As always agenda for the meeting is at: | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 23 19:00:04 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NobodyCam. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Greeting and roll-call and announcements. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: NobodyCam devananda | 19:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Greeting and roll-call and announcements. (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:00 | |
| NobodyCam | whos here for the ironic meeting? | 19:00 |
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| devananda | \o | 19:00 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 19:00 |
| * lucasagomes very sleepy but here | 19:00 | |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:00 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: if you were still on US time, it'd barely be lunch time now :p | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | Great to meet many of you at the seattle meetup | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | should have changed that to all but | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, haha that's the prob, I think I need at least one more day to get back on track | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | Quick wrap-up from last weeks meeting: Yes romcheg and I had a good meeting last week :-p | 19:01 |
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| NobodyCam | I had a action item: Ask devananda to think about a Transifex project for Ironic | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | devananda any Thoughts / comments on ^^^^^ | 19:01 |
| devananda | yes | 19:02 |
| devananda | I pinged clarkb about that last week and created a transifex account. AIUI, it's just a matter of him creating something for us | 19:02 |
| devananda | and then a small patch to openstack-infra/config | 19:02 |
| devananda | clarkb: or if I forgot something, pls let me know | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | w00t | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | any body else ( lucasagomes ) | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:03 |
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| lucasagomes | good stuff :) once it's setup I'll translate ironic to brazilian portuguese as well | 19:03 |
| * NobodyCam loves small meetings | 19:03 | |
| devananda | also, the transifex integration will auto-generate the .pot files for us (part of what it does). | 19:04 |
| devananda | so for now we should continue to -- patches which accidentally change that file | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:04 |
| lucasagomes | can that be blocked automatically? | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | #action Reviewers will -1 patches that touch the .pot file | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | can we remove this file | 19:05 |
| devananda | let me check other projects real quick. we might be able to | 19:05 |
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| NobodyCam | while deva does that | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | Hong Kong design summit: `Your Papers Please!` | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | We have three! Submit yours here: | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | #link http://summit.openstack.org/ | 19:06 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, +1 yea will do | 19:07 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:07 |
| linggao | Hi NobodyCam, I am trying to figure our what belong to Ironic and what to Tuskar, | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | should we move on? and come back to the .pot file | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | I linggao | 19:08 |
| linggao | For example, hardware discovery. | 19:08 |
| devananda | doesn't look like it's in the .gitignore of other projects at all | 19:08 |
| NobodyCam | linggao: we do have a story for that | 19:09 |
| linggao | ? | 19:09 |
| devananda | linggao: there's a section for open questions at the end of the meeting. | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | that may be best handled not in this meeting | 19:09 |
| NobodyCam | or there too! :) | 19:09 |
| linggao | oh, I thought you are talking about sumit papers. | 19:09 |
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| NobodyCam | I posted that while deva was looking up stuff | 19:10 |
| devananda | linggao: oh! gotcha. I thought you meant code wise :) | 19:10 |
| lucasagomes | linggao, dicovery is Ironic... tuskar is more about modeling ur deployment using a high abstraction | 19:10 |
| NobodyCam | we can for sure talk about papers | 19:10 |
| devananda | linggao: if you have a specific topic in mind, please mention it either here or on the ML, and we can help figure out which track it is best suited for | 19:10 |
| lucasagomes | and also they will offer a nice ui (extension to horizon) to deploy baremetal | 19:10 |
| linggao | yes, I was thinking about automatically discover the bearemetal nodes, and put them in the database. | 19:11 |
| devananda | linggao: hardware discovery falls into both ironic and tuskar but in different ways | 19:11 |
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| devananda | linggao: ironic will need to provide some API for hardware interrogation, eg. via IPMI or a bootable ramdisk, but ironic stops there. it's _just_ the API. | 19:12 |
| devananda | linggao: tuskar (or something else?) could then model that data and do something with it (eg, display it, or make scheduling decisions, etc) | 19:12 |
| devananda | does that help? | 19:12 |
| lucasagomes | sounds correct to me | 19:13 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:13 |
| NobodyCam | oh the web we weave | 19:13 |
| linggao | thanks devananda for the clarification. | 19:13 |
| NobodyCam | go to move on? | 19:13 |
| lucasagomes | y for me | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Testing | 19:14 |
| devananda | ++ | 19:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Testing (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:14 | |
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| NobodyCam | h thats me. | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | TripleO is making changes to the heat templates so some of the patches will | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | undergo changes to conform to the changes. I will stay on top of the current patches. | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | We do howerver have a working walk through that will install Ironic and the Ironic cli client | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | on the tripleO undercloud image. see | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Ironic#Using_Disk_Image_Builder | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | on how to info. | 19:14 |
| NobodyCam | has anyone looked over the new walk thru | 19:14 |
| devananda | I got up to starting the undercloud VM on saturday | 19:15 |
| devananda | but ran into problems with missing ENV vars taht weren't in either doc | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | ?? which ones | 19:15 |
| devananda | not in our wiki, and not tripleo/devtest | 19:15 |
| NobodyCam | which env var | 19:15 |
| * devananda restarts seed VM ... | 19:16 | |
| NobodyCam | do you recall | 19:16 |
| devananda | these VMs don't like to hibernate | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:16 |
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| devananda | no | 19:16 |
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| linggao | I have a question on testing. | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | I will run thru again today | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | sure | 19:16 |
| NobodyCam | shoot linggao | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | in order to make things easier should we use a seed vm to bootup our undercloud? wouldn't be easy to create an undercloud straight away? | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | undercloud vm* | 19:17 |
| linggao | one of the veiw I got says that I should use mock instead of mox because openstack is moving to mox. | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | thats a tuff question | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | yes and not | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | *no | 19:17 |
| linggao | can anyone expalin this? | 19:17 |
| devananda | linggao: sure | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | the undercloud is the first real cloud | 19:17 |
| devananda | linggao: mox is not python3 compatible, and there is a directive for all of openstack to move towards py3 compatibility | 19:17 |
| NobodyCam | everything in seed is faked | 19:18 |
| devananda | linggao: right now, ironic's unit test suite is a mixture of mox (inherited from Nova and other projects) and mock (new code). | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, right... but still, I mean for testing we don't really need to launch a seed vm, we can just start with a undercloud in a virtual machine and from that we can deploy the overcloud | 19:18 |
| devananda | linggao: we're moving towards all the unit tests being done with mock | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | it would save some time + memory | 19:19 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: except "undercloud" requires a working cloud init, and it is configured via Heat in the seed cloud | 19:19 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: ++ | 19:19 |
| linggao | devananda, I see. I will change it to mock then. It is a lot of changes. ouch. | 19:19 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: what you're really proposing is taht we merge ironic into the seed VM | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, kinda yea... I mean we still can fake the cloud init thing adding a json on the /var/.../heat-cfn directory no? | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | we can do that | 19:20 |
| NobodyCam | ironic currently can not actually deploy thou | 19:21 |
| NobodyCam | votes for working ironic into seed? | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | well I'd go for it at least while ironic can't deploy an image | 19:22 |
| NobodyCam | im actually gong to vote -1 at least untill we have a working ironic | 19:23 |
| lucasagomes | just to make it easier for people to get ironic-api/conductor/database etc working and develop on it | 19:23 |
| devananda | linggao: I'd like to see native-ipmi landed before the summit so folks can start playing with it then | 19:23 |
| devananda | linggao: if moving it to mock is going to prevent that, please let me know | 19:23 |
| dkehn | I would vote, I think the ultimate issue would be simplicity | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: I use seed to create and distroy my test undercloud | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | i think that actualy saves time | 19:24 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: I would still prefer ironic in the undercloud for now so we can do AB testing with nova-baremetal | 19:24 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: ^ | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | I just load the new image into glance anfire away | 19:24 |
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| devananda | my plan for testing deployments of ironic is to use the undercloud layer, and run two underclouds -- one nova-bm and one ironic | 19:24 |
| devananda | so that I can do A/B testing and develop a migration script | 19:25 |
| linggao | devananda, I need to learn mock. I'd be really happy if we can let it go throgh and I'll make next feature mock compatable. | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | right... yea well we still have devtest if all u want is to setup a quicker dev environment | 19:25 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: you mean devstack? | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yes sorry | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | devstack | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | thats there | 19:25 |
| devananda | :) | 19:25 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:25 |
| * lucasagomes slaps his own face :P | 19:26 | |
| devananda | NobodyCam: thoughts on accepting the native-ipmi driver with mox for now, so the code lands and can be worked on, then migrating it to mock for py3 compat later? | 19:26 |
| NobodyCam | devananda: sure we there is a TODO to replace with mock | 19:27 |
| devananda | I'm fine with this ^, fwiw. add'l tech debt is not ideal, but keeping functionality out of trunk right now is not good for speed | 19:27 |
| devananda | cool | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:27 |
| linggao | thanks everyone :) | 19:27 |
| NobodyCam | ty linggao :) | 19:28 |
| devananda | linggao: I'll open a bug about mox->mock for ipmi-natie and assign to you :) | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | any thing else on testing? | 19:28 |
| devananda | nope | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | maybe we can suggest openstack-infra also to only accept libs that are compatible with py3 from now on | 19:28 |
| linggao | devananda, sure, I like bugs :) | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | there is a py3 gate job | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | or maybe they r already doing that, idk | 19:28 |
| NobodyCam | o moving on... | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | #topic in-progress tasks | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | 41976 Abandoned??? | 19:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "in-progress tasks (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:29 | |
| NobodyCam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41976 | 19:29 |
| NobodyCam | no yuriy today | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | yea :/ | 19:30 |
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| NobodyCam | should be be looking at picking up on that patch? | 19:30 |
| NobodyCam | I don't want to step on any toes but we do kninda need that... don't we? | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | hmm let's see if he will reopen it | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | we can ping him tomorrow | 19:31 |
| NobodyCam | ya | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | and see, if we get no answers | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | then we do it | 19:31 |
| devananda | In the f2f meetings last week, I seem to have overlooked the discussion that happened on that patch | 19:32 |
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| NobodyCam | thats just it nothing has happened | 19:32 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: he proposed changing the signature of VendorInterface.validate() to return (bool, bool) | 19:32 |
| devananda | instead of just (bool) | 19:32 |
| devananda | I agree with Lucas' -1 on that | 19:33 |
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| lucasagomes | yea IMO should use an exception there | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | like here | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41976/8/ironic/conductor/rpcapi.py | 19:33 |
| NobodyCam | ya.. we were going to talk about that and just havent had the chance to hook up | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | instead of having this async_continue variable there, we should just except one exception and then it means that the validation failed | 19:34 |
| lucasagomes | ValidationError(<reason>) | 19:34 |
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| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: +1 | 19:34 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: i think the point is, how to determine whether to make a cast() after the call returns | 19:34 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, if validation pass do a cast, if it fails (exception raised) do not do it | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | if validation passes then make the cast | 19:35 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: :-p | 19:35 |
| devananda | except someetimes, you only want to call | 19:35 |
| devananda | even when it doesn't raise an exception | 19:35 |
| devananda | let's pick that one up after the meeting :) | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | only = dont ??? | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | we really at fft so. | 19:36 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Food For Thought / Open Discussion | 19:37 |
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| devananda | #action devananda to dive into review 41976 (pass_vendor_info) | 19:37 |
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| lucasagomes | already fft? | 19:37 |
| lucasagomes | o wow | 19:37 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: we skipped the API discussion -- and I think there's some things to cover there | 19:37 |
| NobodyCam | how about a wrap up of the f2f devananda and lucasagomes had on friday | 19:37 |
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| NobodyCam | gah I did | 19:38 |
| romcheg_ | Do you still have Ironic meeting? | 19:38 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg_, welcome :) | 19:38 |
| lucasagomes | yes | 19:38 |
| devananda | romcheg_: welcome :) | 19:38 |
| devananda | heh | 19:38 |
| romcheg_ | Hi then :) | 19:38 |
| NobodyCam | #topic API discussion | 19:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "API discussion (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:38 | |
| NobodyCam | welcome romcheg_ | 19:39 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1227431 | 19:39 |
| romcheg_ | sorry, got asleep | 19:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1227431 in ironic "API request to list resources should return only minimal data" [High,In progress] | 19:39 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: you beat me to it - i was just about to paste that :p | 19:39 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1227928 | 19:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1227928 in ironic "API collection not named based on resource type" [High,Fix committed] | 19:39 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, :D | 19:39 |
| lucasagomes | so that's two bugs we opened on Friday regarding the API | 19:40 |
| lucasagomes | the 1227928 is already fixed/merged | 19:40 |
| romcheg_ | anyway, I'm on my smartphone today, the laptop died, so ask questions, if you have any | 19:40 |
| devananda | right, so lucas and I talked on friday about some API issues which, btw, became really easy to spot now that NobodyCam's dib/heat templates are working and I have a running ironic service :) | 19:40 |
| lucasagomes | I'm working on the 1227431, I hope I will fix that tomorrow | 19:40 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg_: lucasagomes and devananda found some instrstering bugs on friday | 19:41 |
| romcheg_ | NobodyCam: will take a look at them | 19:41 |
| devananda | romcheg_: tl;dr; from the first 1/2 of meeting -- transifex stuff is in progress, waiting on clarkb for a few changes in infra/config | 19:41 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, another thing about the 1227431... the "minimal data" also returns links to the resource itself: http://api.openstack.org/api-ref-compute.html | 19:42 |
| romcheg_ | NobodyCam: that's great! | 19:42 |
| romcheg_ | looking forward to start translating | 19:42 |
| NobodyCam | romcheg_: links are in the scroll back and also on the agenda page too | 19:42 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: ah! so it does | 19:42 |
| lucasagomes | yup :) | 19:43 |
| lucasagomes | the links for the sub resources will only be retrieved with the /details | 19:43 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: right. or to /nodes/{uuid} | 19:44 |
| lucasagomes | yup yea | 19:44 |
| devananda | sounds good | 19:44 |
| lucasagomes | nodes/{uuid} always returns the full document | 19:44 |
| devananda | shall we move on to fft? | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:44 |
| lucasagomes | yup | 19:44 |
| NobodyCam | #topic Food For Thought / Open Discussion | 19:45 |
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| lucasagomes | fft | 19:45 |
| NobodyCam | I will on and off line of the next several day moving to cal | 19:45 |
| romcheg_ | I almost finished my work with tempest | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, NobodyCam: that's the deploy ramdisk you guys talked about on seattle? https://github.com/theforeman/foreman_discovery/ | 19:45 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://github.com/theforeman/foreman_discovery/ | 19:45 |
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| lucasagomes | discovery ramdisk* | 19:46 |
| devananda | romcheg_: how is tempest testing ironic at this point? (it can't do a full deploy yet...) | 19:46 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: that looks like ruby?? | 19:46 |
| romcheg_ | devananda: now I only did some API tests | 19:46 |
| NobodyCam | also wanted to thank lucasagomes for the working ironic command line cli!!! | 19:46 |
| NobodyCam | go show chassis | 19:46 |
| lucasagomes | devananda, yea it's ruby | 19:46 |
| lucasagomes | so might not be it hehe | 19:47 |
| romcheg_ | that's a good question, how should we test deployment | 19:47 |
| devananda | romcheg_: ah! framework is great at this stage -- we'll add more as more is possible :) | 19:47 |
| romcheg_ | we need some hardware for that | 19:47 |
| lucasagomes | NobodyCam, :) will add more things to the cli/lib once I get the api more established | 19:47 |
| devananda | romcheg_: there are some folks already working on testing tripleo deployment, both in VM and on hardware. you should talk with them | 19:47 |
| romcheg_ | some hardware on Infra's side | 19:47 |
| NobodyCam | also going to add a top level section to the meeting for client stuff | 19:48 |
| devananda | romcheg_: IIRC, it's pleia2 and dprince working on TOCI and the -infra side of tripleo | 19:48 |
| romcheg_ | thanks devananda | 19:49 |
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| NobodyCam | and my last tid bit : | 19:49 |
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| NobodyCam | #link https://github.com/NoBodyCam/ironic/blob/master/README.rst | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | its our Java driver | 19:49 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: foreman is definitely _not_ what I was referring to w.r.t. a ramdisk agent | 19:49 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:49 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda, :D | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | do you have the link to the right one? | 19:50 |
| devananda | lucasagomes: nope. haven't found it but still looking | 19:50 |
| devananda | here's a quick brain-storm on other FFT ideas.... | 19:50 |
| lucasagomes | I just did a small search about it and bumped into that one, so I thought: "well maybe" | 19:50 |
| NobodyCam | lucasagomes: the link we were looking for was an example | 19:50 |
| devananda | nova-baremetal -> ironic: incrememtal code migration? No. New driver? Yes. ++ a migration script. | 19:50 |
| NobodyCam | we will need to create it? | 19:51 |
| devananda | Neutron patches for dynamic DHCP ports -- will require some changes to our PXE driver and start-up scripts (eg, no more local dnsmasq). | 19:51 |
| NobodyCam | w00t | 19:51 |
| devananda | aim to do ^ during I-1 or no later than I-2 | 19:51 |
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| NobodyCam | ghe seems to be on holiday | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:52 |
| devananda | models instead of migrations? I don't understand why we'd do taht when all other projects are using migrations | 19:52 |
| devananda | inform node of ironic API URL? yea. those all look reasonable :) | 19:52 |
| NobodyCam | that was the general feeling... I'll remove that one | 19:52 |
| lucasagomes | I think jog0 had a good argument to keep migrations ^ | 19:53 |
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| NobodyCam | yes | 19:53 |
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| devananda | more than 1 conductor? yep. that's part of our HA story and one reason we broke out of Nova | 19:53 |
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| NobodyCam | heheheh | 19:53 |
| devananda | it's probably worth a design session jsut for the more-than-one-conductor story | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | oh you mean: | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | Hong Kong design summit: `Your Papers Please!` | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | We have three! Submit yours here: | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | #link http://summit.openstack.org/ | 19:53 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:53 |
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| devananda | #action devananda to propose dev session for more-than-one-conductor | 19:54 |
| devananda | :) | 19:54 |
| NobodyCam | w00t that would be 4 | 19:54 |
| lucasagomes | :D | 19:54 |
| romcheg_ | a | 19:55 |
| devananda | [end brain storm] | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | any thing else? | 19:55 |
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| NobodyCam | should we let romcheg_ and lucasagomes get some sleep | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | +1 | 19:55 |
| lucasagomes | haha | 19:55 |
| devananda | :) | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | thank you all great meeting | 19:55 |
| NobodyCam | #endmeeting | 19:55 |
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| devananda | cheers! thanks everyone | 19:56 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 23 19:55:59 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-09-23-19.00.html | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-09-23-19.00.txt | 19:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-09-23-19.00.log.html | 19:56 |
| lucasagomes | thanks | 19:56 |
| romcheg_ | thanks | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | thank you linggao too | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | !!! | 19:56 |
| openstack | NobodyCam: Error: "!!" is not a valid command. | 19:56 |
| NobodyCam | lol | 19:56 |
| lucasagomes | haha | 19:56 |
| linggao | thanks evryone. | 19:56 |
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| SpamapS | #meeting TripleO | 20:01 |
| SpamapS | #startmeeting TripleO | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 23 20:01:55 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SpamapS. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 20:01 |
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| SpamapS | Agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TripleO | 20:02 |
| SpamapS | #topic roll call! | 20:02 |
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| SpamapS | o/ | 20:03 |
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| lifeless | kinda-here-but-dealing-with-baby | 20:03 |
| dkehn | hi | 20:03 |
| slagle | howdy | 20:03 |
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| rushiagr | new guy here | 20:03 |
| stevebaker | o/ | 20:04 |
| bnemec | o/ | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | fantastic | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | #topic bugs | 20:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:04 | |
| dprince | hi | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | For those who weren't in Seattle, we did go over bugs briefly while in the room. | 20:05 |
| SpamapS | the end result: hey we have a lot of bugs! | 20:05 |
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| SpamapS | the Critical bugs are all blocked on needing more data or some other external issues, so focus should be on High bugs. | 20:06 |
| SpamapS | there was also a desire to perhaps set some short term goals to finish before the havana release of OpenStack, so that TripleO has something to show off at that time. | 20:07 |
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| SpamapS | Since there are so many, does anybody have specific ones they'd like to bring up? | 20:08 |
| slagle | are we going to have havana branches in the seperate repos, so that we can work torwards something stable? | 20:09 |
| SpamapS | no | 20:09 |
| SpamapS | If we were going to do that I think we'd have needed to do that through the cycle. | 20:09 |
| SpamapS | The interfaces should be stable in all of the component pieces. | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | incubator is a moving target by definition | 20:10 |
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| slagle | ok. i'm just concerned about new stuff going in that breaks the stable-ness | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | slagle: we have a policy of never breaking the interfaces. | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | so breaking the interfaces means reverting immediately. | 20:10 |
| SpamapS | hence no desire to "freeze" | 20:11 |
| SpamapS | Of course, we'll all feel a lot more confident about that when all of the pieces are functionally tested in the gate. :) | 20:11 |
| SpamapS | anyway, no specific bugs, so we'll move on. | 20:12 |
| SpamapS | #topic Grizzly test rack status | 20:13 |
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| SpamapS | no change AFAIK | 20:13 |
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| SpamapS | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 20:13 |
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| SpamapS | pleia2: you here today? | 20:14 |
| SpamapS | We hit a wall with lxc last week at the sprint. It appears that there are deep problems using iscsi from inside LXC containers. | 20:14 |
| SpamapS | anyway, I don't think there is much more to say there. | 20:15 |
| SpamapS | #topic open discussion | 20:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: TripleO)" | 20:15 | |
| ccrouch | are there specific upstream bugs around the LXC + iscsi stuff? | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | ccrouch: we dug them out, but I think pleia2 has them in her notes. | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | ccrouch: I was mostly just chatting with the LXC authors | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | there are multiple reasons it is problematic | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | netlink socket is used to talk to the control portion of the kernel, and that is not namespaced. probably some other bits inside iscsi that would need to be made namespace aware since they make outgoing connections. | 20:17 |
| lifeless | I mailed the openstack-infra list last night about the new plan | 20:17 |
| lifeless | 'Plan for testing nova baremetal and TripleO | 20:18 |
| lifeless | ' | 20:18 |
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| ccrouch | SpamapS: ok great, sounds like its moving along | 20:19 |
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| SpamapS | ccrouch: you do remind me though that we should consider tracking those bugs so that we can return to the issue when they're addressed (and/or put resources on them if none are available) | 20:19 |
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| lifeless | So once we get buy-in from infra-core on that, we'll have a few things folk can push on in parallel. | 20:19 |
| SpamapS | just to bring this up.. I thought the sprint was extremely successful in moving the community forward on the tripleo program. | 20:20 |
| ccrouch | i've heard nothing but good things about it :-) | 20:21 |
| SpamapS | Bumps and bruises and cleared /dev trees aside, we all got things done through the week. :) | 20:21 |
| dprince | lifeless: is there a public diagram that shows the proposed CI workflow in a bit more detail? | 20:21 |
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| dprince | lifeless: if not should we make one? | 20:21 |
| slagle | SpamapS: agreed, thanks for hosting :) | 20:22 |
| lifeless | dprince: just the prose in the etherpad; turning that into a dia or whatever sounds good | 20:22 |
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| SpamapS | Alright well if there's nothing else... | 20:25 |
| lifeless | well | 20:25 |
| lifeless | Tuskar have said they want to move ahead on the merge | 20:25 |
| lifeless | so perhaps we should add sections for tuskar-api and tuskar-ui to the meeting agenda I think | 20:25 |
| lifeless | or review how we structure the agenda | 20:25 |
| lifeless | [Lynne has C now, so I'm more here] | 20:25 |
| SpamapS | Oh definitely I wasn't aware of that. :) | 20:25 |
| ccrouch | SpamapS: did we propose the meeting time change? apologies if i missed that, I joined late | 20:26 |
| SpamapS | we did not | 20:26 |
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| SpamapS | IIRC some people wanted to move the meeting back to 19:00 UTC? | 20:26 |
| lifeless | the proposal from the face to face meeting was to use the current tuskar slot | 20:26 |
| SpamapS | ahhhh | 20:27 |
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| lifeless | which is 23h later than this one, so slightly friendlier to east europeans | 20:27 |
| SpamapS | well then I propose we all attend that meeting tomorrow, and discuss there? | 20:27 |
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| SpamapS | and add that to the agenda | 20:28 |
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| lifeless | seconded | 20:28 |
| bnemec | +1 | 20:28 |
| SpamapS | Ok I've added it to the agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tuskar | 20:29 |
| SpamapS | With that, I think we can adjourn. | 20:29 |
| SpamapS | thanks everyone! | 20:29 |
| SpamapS | #endmeeting | 20:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 23 20:30:05 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-09-23-20.01.html | 20:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-09-23-20.01.txt | 20:30 |
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| roaet | hello! | 20:58 |
| arosen | armax: suppppp? | 20:58 |
| * mestery broke up the VMware 3-peat there. :) | 20:58 | |
| armax | arosen: long time no see | 20:58 |
| armax | :) | 20:58 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi all! | 21:01 |
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| markmcclain | here | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 23 21:04:07 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:04 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:04 |
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| markmcclain | The release candidate will be cut soon | 21:05 |
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| garyk | hi, sorry for being late | 21:05 |
| garyk | when will the rc be cut? | 21:05 |
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| markmcclain | I'm hoping for late this week | 21:06 |
| garyk | ok, thanks | 21:06 |
| salv-orlando | great, it's almost over then | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | yes | 21:06 |
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| markmcclain | At this point in time we should be focusing on release critical bugs | 21:07 |
| * salv-orlando is undecided whether to feel scared or relieved | 21:07 | |
| salv-orlando | like 121915? | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | yes | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | which leads us into our next topic | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:07 |
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| markmcclain | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | current we three critical open bugs | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1211915 | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1211915 in neutron "Connection to neutron failed: Maximum attempts reached" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | marun was working on this one | 21:08 |
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| markmcclain | he's off today, so I'll follow up with him we he returns | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | this bug started popping up again in the gate recently | 21:09 |
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| markmcclain | We've also have this one: | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1227091 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1227091 in neutron "ml2 fails to bind lbaas VIP" [Critical,In progress] | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | gongysh is working on it | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | and this one: | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1229394 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1229394 in neutron "VPN Migration does not specify correct plugin" [Critical,In progress] | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: is working on the last one | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | any other critical bugs the team needs to know about? | 21:10 |
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| markmcclain | Any other bugs the team needs to discuss? | 21:11 |
| salv-orlando | From my side, all the bugs I would really see merged for RC1 already already on gerrit | 21:12 |
| armax | not sure if we want to cover bug #1228735 | 21:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1228735 in neutron "add lockmode to neutron context" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1228735 | 21:12 |
| salv-orlando | but I'm not sure about the bug for removing auto-schema generation | 21:12 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: think auto-removal to is too risky? | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | it has a dependency on puppet-openstack otherwise smokestack will fail | 21:13 |
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| salv-orlando | I pushed the patch into neutron-puppet but I'm not sure if it will make it in time | 21:14 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. smokestack shouldn't be blocking the gate | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | it votes on the check chain | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | right it will vote on a check | 21:14 |
| markmcclain | but not a verify | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | Idk if it's ok to approve a patch down voted by smokestack | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | my understanding is that is ok | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | also, then smokestack will start to -1 every patch which uses neutron if we merge this change | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | I'll confirm the situation with infra | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | k | 21:15 |
| markmcclain | armax: you proposed a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47706/ | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: this is a pointer to the puppet patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47854/ | 21:16 |
| armax | yup | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | this adds lockmode support on the context | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | my only concern is that lockmodes have slightly different behaviors across the database backends | 21:16 |
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| armax | to some degree that is already handled by sqlalchemy | 21:17 |
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| armax | in that, for instance, select for update is ignored for sqlite db backends | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | I thought we have still seen reports on differences between mysql and postgres | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | sqlite has lots of consistency issues so we'll ignore for now | 21:18 |
| emagana | sorry, I am late.. bad jet lag.. :-) | 21:18 |
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| armax | that said, having the context expose the functionality or calling sqlalchemy directly with a specified lock mode makes no actual difference | 21:18 |
| armax | as far as db abstraction is concerned | 21:18 |
| armax | underlying details are leaked regardless | 21:18 |
| armax | but I see what you mean | 21:18 |
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| markmcclain | I do think this change has merit | 21:20 |
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| armax | I am ok if the change needs to churn a little more | 21:20 |
| armax | I have cycles to shepherd it into a RC | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | how frequent and serious is the bug it tries to solve | 21:20 |
| salv-orlando | I think I've seen it in the past - it was rather infrequent and most importantly non critical (i.e.: nothing crashed) | 21:21 |
| armax | well the race condition I was trying to address is there | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | this is the race: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/46563/ | 21:21 |
| salv-orlando | sorry, I was referring to the race condition bug of course | 21:21 |
| armax | I have never seen it in practice without staging it | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | arosen: is that the one we've been sporadically seeing in the past? | 21:22 |
| salv-orlando | it looks the same to me | 21:22 |
| arosen | yea i think so. | 21:22 |
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| armax | that said there are other places in the db_plugin where we lock for update | 21:22 |
| SumitNaiksatam | kevin, who created the bug was able to reproduce it consistently | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | ok.. let's review the patches | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | I'll track them as possible inclusion into the RC | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | I was trying to make a simpler point. If the bug is not critical, and we don't have strong consensus behind current approach, defer | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | but let's move discussion to gerrit | 21:24 |
| armax | yup | 21:24 |
| armax | agreed | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | my feeling is that these will help and at worst they won't make the probably any worse | 21:24 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: agreed | 21:25 |
| salv-orlando | I don't feel super happy about adding lock_mode to context, but I am not either opposed to that | 21:25 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. I'll track them and we can discuss in gerrit | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | any other bugs? | 21:27 |
| armax | I'm good | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | #topic API Docs | 21:27 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bugs?field.tag=netconn-api | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | bugs for all the extension have been added | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | I am reviewing the FWaaS docs, hopefully we should merge them soon | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | great | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | We need takers for 3 bugs | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | dkehn: can you help with the Extra DHCP api docs? | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | bug #1229384 | 21:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1229384 in openstack-api-site "Document neutron allowed-address-pairs extension" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229384 | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | bug 1226280 | 21:28 |
| dkehn | markmcclain, yes I can | 21:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1226280 in openstack-api-site "Neutron API: Extra DHCP opts extension" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226280 | 21:28 |
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| markmcclain | dkehn: thanks | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | bug 1229389 | 21:29 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1229389 in openstack-api-site "Document Neutron metering extension" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229389 | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | so 1226280 is taken | 21:29 |
| dkehn | markmcclain, I'll talk to you later for what that means and were to put them | 21:29 |
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| markmcclain | dkehn: salv-orlando can help you too | 21:29 |
| dkehn | great | 21:29 |
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| markmcclain | 1229384 I thought arosen was working on that one | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | arosen: can you confirm you can take that bug? | 21:30 |
| arosen | Yea, i;ll post the patch shortly. Sorry got caught up with some other stuff last week. | 21:30 |
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| markmcclain | great | 21:30 |
| arosen | sorry again for the delay.... | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | arosen: we're still pre-RC so you're good | 21:31 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando we can work offline to find an assignee for the metering API docs unless someone here wants it | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: let's take it offline | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | thanks for ensuring we didn't miss any of the ext api docs | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | anything else? | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | that is all | 21:33 |
| amotoki | there are changes in l3 (service plugin) and agent scheduler extension. i will file them as bugs and take them. | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | amotoki: great.. thanks | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | are they API changes? | 21:33 |
| amotoki | AFAIK, there are no change in API but extension names are changed. | 21:34 |
| amotoki | the main goal is to check them. | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | right. good point. | 21:34 |
| markmcclain | #topic docs | 21:36 |
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| markmcclain | emagana: hi | 21:36 |
| emagana | I was away for a week, but I am seeing ML2 discussions are going on (rkukura) and also that the FWaaS was merged (snaiksatam) | 21:36 |
| rkukura | filed bug 1229237 for ml2 config reference, will file a few more now that consolidation merged | 21:36 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1229237 in openstack-manuals "Update configuration reference for neutron ml2 plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1229237 | 21:36 |
| emagana | same status for metering docs than for API, we need to document it | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | Ok | 21:36 |
| emagana | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/1202967 | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1202967 in openstack-manuals "Add Neutron l3 metering agent" [Medium,Confirmed] | 21:37 |
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| markmcclain | ok.. let's work offline to get a taker for it | 21:37 |
| markmcclain | I know you've been gone… anything else? | 21:37 |
| emagana | markmcclain: I also read the latest neutron guide and there are few things that dont make sense for Havana | 21:38 |
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| emagana | markmcclain: I will file bugs for that and fix them by myself | 21:38 |
| markmcclain | emagana: this is the recently merged guide? | 21:38 |
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| salv-orlando | a dumb question on docs from me: shall we push changes to openstack-cloud-admin, openstack-network-admin or both? | 21:39 |
| emagana | markmcclain: no, the one before. | 21:39 |
| annegentle | salv-orlando: the openstack-network-admin got deleted in a merge today | 21:39 |
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| annegentle | salv-orlando: everything found happy new homes | 21:40 |
| emagana | markmcclain: I will do a review on the merged one to validate changes | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | annegentle: thanks. I think Diane tried to explain that to me… but as I said, sometimes I just unplug my brain | 21:40 |
| annegentle | salv-orlando: hee | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | Any other doc items? | 21:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks to the admin doc project members who reviewed the FWaaS admin doc (if they are here)! nice feedback and turnaround in the past one week towards getting patch merged!! | 21:41 |
| emagana | nothing from me! just Thank Anne, Diane and everybody involved on the new guide! | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. I'm happy the new guide has become a reality | 21:43 |
| markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:43 |
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| markmcclain | During reviews something as bubbled up that got missed early on | 21:44 |
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| markmcclain | firewall are current per tenant and not per router | 21:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: thats per documented design all along | 21:44 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: that was pointed out in review | 21:45 |
| salv-orlando | Sumit has all the answers | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | right.. just wanted to make sure folks are aware of this | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | because I know it has caught more than a few folks by surprise | 21:45 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: the plan, as I've been told, is to have a concept of zones as l3 domain groupings | 21:46 |
| salv-orlando | but this was obviously not in Havana plans | 21:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | btw, this is not a constraint of the API | 21:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | or the resource model | 21:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is a constraint of the reference implementation (moreso the agent/driver) | 21:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | that said, this also needs service insertion framework support | 21:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | so yes, this was not part of the Havana plans | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | ok.. just need to make sure we're consistent on messaging | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | So is the VPN service doing something wrong by binding to a routeR? | 21:47 |
| markmcclain | since the VPNaaS is per router | 21:47 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the right model is to support service insertion | 21:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: we will make sure that this is documented | 21:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | in the context of the firewall reference implementation | 21:49 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:49 |
| amotoki | SumitNaiksatam: agree | 21:49 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: thanks, i hope it addresses your concern that you pointed on the bug | 21:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the bug and fix was created to address your concern | 21:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47659/ | 21:50 |
| amotoki | thanks. my only concern was there seems a few consensus about it. | 21:50 |
| amotoki | now we all seem to be in the page. | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | long term we'll revisit the one firewall per tenant concept | 21:51 |
| salv-orlando | makes sense | 21:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: yeah, this is certainly not a long term goal | 21:51 |
| markmcclain | so documenting that this is a Havana restriction works | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | #topic Horizon | 21:52 |
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| markmcclain | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45901/ | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | looks like the Horizon UI update is still needs for testing? | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | how confident are we that it will land? | 21:53 |
| amotoki | SumitNaiksatam: thanks for testing. i am not why you failed to create a firewall. | 21:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: yeah, may not be an issue with your patch | 21:53 |
| SumitNaiksatam | however my setup worked without your patch | 21:54 |
| amotoki | i will file it as a bug to clarify its priority and discuss with other horizon cores in tomorrow meeting. | 21:54 |
| dkehn | have to bail, will check the log | 21:54 |
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| amotoki | SumitNaiksatam: hmm.... i will rebase a patch and let you know. | 21:55 |
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| amotoki | thanks for your help. Input from FWaaS team is important. | 21:55 |
| SumitNaiksatam | amotoki: thanks | 21:55 |
| amotoki | there is another topic. enikanorov is working on adding provider support in lbaas. | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | amotoki: will that be granted an exception? | 21:56 |
| amotoki | it is just a small change and i already discussed in the meeting last week. | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | ok | 21:56 |
| amotoki | it is handled as a bug. | 21:56 |
| amotoki | all from me. | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | amotoki: thanks for the update | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | #topic Deprecation | 21:57 |
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| markmcclain | The ML2 team has been busy ensuring feature parity with the existing OVS and linuxbridge plugins | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | We've discussed deprecating the monolithic OVS and linuxbridge plugins before. | 21:58 |
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| markmcclain | The plan would be to release Havana with a note indicating that the OVS and linuxbridge plugins are deprecated and that new deployments should use ML2 | 21:59 |
| amotoki | do we need to clarify how to migrate from OVS/linuxbridge to ML2 before Havana release? | 21:59 |
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| mestery | amotoki: I think that seems like a reasonable thing to do, yes. | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | The code for the plugins would still be in the tree | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | so we have a little bit of time to clarify the migration to ML2. | 22:00 |
| amotoki | i think so too. | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | The deprecation warning just allows us to remove the code in Icehouse | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | NOTE: we won | 22:01 |
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| markmcclain | we won't actually remove the code until to mid-to-late Icehouse | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | thoughts or concerns? | 22:02 |
| rkukura | makes sense to me | 22:02 |
| emagana | markmcclain: sounds like a good plan, so the warning will be in the code itself? or documentation? I think in both, right? | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | both | 22:02 |
| mestery | The plan makes sense to me as well. | 22:03 |
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| emagana | markmcclain: Perfect! | 22:03 |
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| markmcclain | Ok.. I send out an email to the ML to warn of the impending change | 22:04 |
| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 22:04 |
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| markmcclain | We're a little late on time.. any items that need to brought up? | 22:05 |
| roaet | markmcclain: I'd like to talk about IPAM offline | 22:05 |
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| amotoki | just a quesiton. does anyone usually test with postgresql? We sometimes have bugs related to postgres. | 22:05 |
| markmcclain | amotoki: I believe smokestack will run against postgres | 22:06 |
| arosen | I have once :) | 22:06 |
| markmcclain | if you're finding bugs please file them | 22:06 |
| markmcclain | most of the time they're small simple fixes | 22:06 |
| salv-orlando | markmcclain: from what I gathered today smokestack uses postgres if you're not running neutron | 22:06 |
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| markmcclain | roaet: we'll have to talk a bit later as I have to head out right after this | 22:08 |
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| roaet | markmcclain: absolutely, whenever you're available | 22:09 |
| roaet | thank you | 22:09 |
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| markmcclain | All… I'm happy that the docs are progressing very well and our RC will be cut sometime late this week or next Monday. | 22:10 |
| markmcclain | Have a good rest of the week. | 22:10 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:10 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 23 22:10:09 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-09-23-21.04.html | 22:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-09-23-21.04.txt | 22:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-09-23-21.04.log.html | 22:10 |
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| amotoki | bye. have a good day/night! | 22:12 |
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