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| devananda | hi all! who's here for the ironic meeting? | 18:59 |
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| martyntaylor | howdy | 18:59 |
| NobodyCam | o/ | 19:00 |
| anteaya | o/ | 19:00 |
| devananda | #startmeeting ironic | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 12 19:00:56 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is devananda. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
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| devananda | hi guys :) | 19:01 |
| NobodyCam | welcome :) | 19:01 |
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| devananda | ("guys" in the gender-nonspecific way) | 19:01 |
| anteaya | :D | 19:01 |
| devananda | as usual, link for the agenda, though it hasn't changed a lot from last time: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| devananda | but there are some new things to report | 19:02 |
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| devananda | lucas wont be joining us, so i'll fill in the bits that i know of his work | 19:02 |
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| devananda | also, GheRivero_CH seems to be AFK.. | 19:02 |
| devananda | #topic testing | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "testing (Meeting topic: ironic)" | 19:03 | |
| devananda | lucas got devstack to run baremetal again (it fell to disuse for a few months) | 19:03 |
| GheRivero_CH | o/ | 19:03 |
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| devananda | ah! hi there Ghe | 19:03 |
| GheRivero_CH | hi all | 19:03 |
| NobodyCam | hey GheRivero_CH | 19:03 |
| devananda | so lucas should be posting those fixes for devstack soon(ish) and, i think, then trying to get ironic added to devstack | 19:04 |
| devananda | NobodyCam: any updates on the dib elements for ironic? | 19:04 |
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| NobodyCam | I have the element and heat template up for review | 19:04 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41492/ | 19:05 |
| NobodyCam | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41480/ | 19:05 |
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| NobodyCam | I will work them thru until they land | 19:05 |
| devananda | great, thanks! | 19:06 |
| NobodyCam | they do work .. I am using them for my testing | 19:06 |
| devananda | folks who want to play with ironic outside of a venv -- i encourage you to use those ^ | 19:06 |
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| devananda | anyone have questions or other issues related to testing? | 19:06 |
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| NobodyCam | i'm happy to help get people up to speed if they have any questions | 19:07 |
| devananda | #topic outstanding patches | 19:08 |
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| devananda | there's a few things here which i'll update on, and we can discuss if necessary | 19:08 |
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| devananda | keystone domains. romcheg isnt' around right now, but afaik this is just blocked upstream | 19:08 |
| devananda | we have admin-only auth in the API, which is, AFAIAC, good enough for now :) | 19:09 |
| devananda | glance client utils -- this has been a major blocker for a few months | 19:09 |
| devananda | NobodyCam and I jumped in the glance meeting last week, and i talked with them afterwards for a while too | 19:09 |
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| devananda | tl;dr -- we're just going to move forward with the glance client wrapper that GheRivero_CH has ported from nova | 19:10 |
| devananda | and we'll carry the patch internally | 19:10 |
| devananda | Ghe - i posted one comment to your patch. will you have time to respond today/tomorrow? | 19:11 |
| GheRivero_CH | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/35272/ | 19:11 |
| GheRivero_CH | yeah, sure. will reply in the next hours | 19:11 |
| devananda | thanks much! | 19:11 |
| NobodyCam | :) | 19:11 |
| devananda | other than that, it looks great | 19:11 |
| devananda | GheRivero_CH: when you can, please also restore the PXE driver patch | 19:12 |
| GheRivero_CH | pxe is on the way. A couple of tests are failing, but also will work in it in the following hours | 19:12 |
| NobodyCam | awesome! | 19:12 |
| devananda | ideally i'd like that to either land later this week, or be in a state where NobodyCam can work with you on actually testing it within TripleO over the following two weeks (while I'm gone) | 19:13 |
| GheRivero_CH | so tomorrow you all will have another big path for review | 19:13 |
| devananda | GheRivero_CH: sweet, thanks! | 19:13 |
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| devananda | native IPMI patch - linggao has been working on this, and it's presently blocked on a one-line addition to openstack/requirements | 19:14 |
| devananda | also, the python-ipmi package got renamed to pyghmi last week :) | 19:14 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: can you post link? | 19:14 |
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| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41134/ | 19:15 |
| devananda | #link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyghmi | 19:15 |
| devananda | lastly, i need to fix the driver import error that is currently prevent ironic-manager from actually loading -any- driver outside of unit tests (which mock the driver load, and thus work) | 19:16 |
| devananda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/39617/ | 19:16 |
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| devananda | ok -- end of my summary of outstanding issues. questions / other outstanding items? | 19:16 |
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| NobodyCam | devananda: do you think you'll have time to get that reposted before you out? | 19:18 |
| devananda | i don't like either solution that's been proposed so far, but it needs to be solved | 19:19 |
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| devananda | ok, last item on the agenda is the API | 19:20 |
| devananda | some good additions landed last week | 19:21 |
| devananda | and lucas has started working on exposing node state changes in the API (there's a draft up, but much will change before it lands) | 19:21 |
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| devananda | that's about it! | 19:22 |
| devananda | #topic open discussion | 19:22 |
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| NobodyCam | wow I think that been out quickest meeting yet | 19:22 |
| devananda | yea... without lucas or romcheg here to discuss things, it's a bit of a small meeting of mostly me talking :( | 19:23 |
| NobodyCam | I wanted to say great work everyone! | 19:23 |
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| * GheRivero_CH is at a Wine & Cheese Party now, so better not to comment anything | 19:23 | |
| NobodyCam | lol :) | 19:24 |
| NobodyCam | GheRivero_CH: enjoy the party | 19:24 |
| devananda | GheRivero_CH: mmm! enjoy :) | 19:24 |
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| devananda | well, if no one has anything else to discuss, let's wrap up early ...? | 19:26 |
| devananda | ok, thanks everyone! | 19:27 |
| devananda | #endmeeting | 19:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:27 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 12 19:27:16 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-08-12-19.00.html | 19:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-08-12-19.00.txt | 19:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2013/ironic.2013-08-12-19.00.log.html | 19:27 |
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| lifeless | #startmeeting tripleo | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 12 20:00:52 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lifeless. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tripleo' | 20:00 |
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| lifeless | #topic agenda | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 20:01 | |
| lifeless | bugs | 20:01 |
| lifeless | Grizzly test rack status | 20:01 |
| lifeless | CI virtualized testing progress | 20:01 |
| lifeless | open discussion | 20:01 |
| lifeless | Any extra items? | 20:01 |
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| lifeless | #topic bugs | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 20:02 | |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/ | 20:02 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/diskimage-builder/ | 20:02 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-refresh-config | 20:02 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-apply-config | 20:02 |
| lifeless | https://bugs.launchpad.net/os-collect-config | 20:02 |
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| SpamapS | bug 1202322 almost squashed now | 20:02 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1202322 in tripleo "cfn-hup restarts everything every 5 minutes because of heat-localip" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1202322 | 20:02 |
| SpamapS | wrapping up changes to overcloud-source.yaml (unless you already did that?) and corresponding changes to devtest.md (unless you already did that too?) | 20:03 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I have nontrivial changes to both of those in review | 20:03 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: but hopefully not overlappin with the cfn-hup->occ stuff you're doing. | 20:03 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: mine are focused on networking and unwinding the in-instance cloud-initialisation logic | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | Right, cfn-hup -> occ, and also changing to using an AWS::AutoScaling::LaunchConfiguration for delivering IP | 20:04 |
| SpamapS | (hopefully that will turn into an OS::Heat::SoftwareConfig when HOT becomes viable. | 20:04 |
| lifeless | cool | 20:04 |
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| lifeless | I filed bug 1211289 to keep you entertained | 20:05 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1211289 in tripleo "heat updates broken" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211289 | 20:05 |
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| SpamapS | Once that is squashed (hopefully last few patches in an hour or so) then I can fix my other two criticals. | 20:05 |
| lifeless | the POC bugs aren't moving. I'm thinking of sending out a CFV on the HP tripleo list (as only HP staff can access the POC environment...) | 20:06 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: yes, I'll fix that today, it is part of the fallout from the fixes for 1202322 | 20:06 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: cool | 20:06 |
| lifeless | bug 1211170 I filed last night when I actually got a working overcloud again | 20:06 |
| * SpamapS adds bug# to commit messages | 20:06 | |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1211170 in tripleo "kpartx missing from overclouds" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1211170 | 20:06 |
| lifeless | but it's trivial and code change is dnoe | 20:06 |
| lifeless | done | 20:06 |
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| lifeless | no other criticals | 20:07 |
| lifeless | Grizzly test rack status | 20:07 |
| lifeless | I checked in on it yesterday, still ticking along. | 20:07 |
| SpamapS | Perhaps the right way to fix the POC: bugs is just to ignore them for another month. :-P | 20:08 |
| lifeless | yeah, maybe not. | 20:08 |
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| lifeless | #topic CI virtualized testing progress | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI virtualized testing progress (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 20:09 | |
| lifeless | pleia2: ^ | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | now that we got the seed timeout issue sorted, I've begun setting up an lxc environment on an hpcloud image | 20:09 |
| lifeless | pleia2: fantastic! | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | well, semi-sorted, we know what's wrong :) | 20:10 |
| lifeless | pleia2: oh :(. You haven't gotten a booted bm node still ? | 20:10 |
| lifeless | pleia2: in that, we don't know if there is anything *else* wrong ? | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | well it works fine on kvm | 20:10 |
| lifeless | pleia2: ah! ok - cool. | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | just getting all the pieces together for trying it on lxc now | 20:10 |
| lifeless | pleia2: so now we're dealing with libvirt lxc? | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | we'll need to install some different things in install-dependencies, but so far so good | 20:11 |
| pleia2 | that's the goal | 20:11 |
| lifeless | pleia2: I'm curious why you've moved from your home environment to hpcloud at the same time as moving kvm -> lxc | 20:11 |
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| pleia2 | hpcloud is the end goal anyway, I need to run my kvm instance for reference and I don't currently have the resources to run both the kvm and lxc instance at once at home | 20:12 |
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| lifeless | ah | 20:12 |
| lifeless | ok | 20:12 |
| pleia2 | (mordred is looking into hardware though, so we'll see) | 20:12 |
| lifeless | let me - or anyone - know if you need a hand :) | 20:12 |
| pleia2 | will do | 20:12 |
| lifeless | I'm happy to do another realtime dig-in session, for instance. | 20:12 |
| pleia2 | great, I'll let you know if I get stuck | 20:13 |
| lifeless | #topic open discussion | 20:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: tripleo)" | 20:13 | |
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| * lifeless watches the tumbleweed | 20:14 | |
| dkehn | cue crickets | 20:14 |
| lifeless | Has everyone looked at tuskar ? | 20:14 |
| SpamapS | I had some friends wanting to play with TripleO on spare hardware at home.. | 20:15 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: cool | 20:15 |
| jog0 | I would like to point out havana feature freeze is in a few weeks (Sept 4th) | 20:15 |
| dprince | lifeless: how many people are planning on coming to Seattle? | 20:15 |
| SpamapS | devtest.md is obviously not suitable.. | 20:15 |
| lifeless | dprince: I have 14 people confirmed | 20:15 |
| SpamapS | Do we already have a quick step-by-step to get it going on real hardware, or is that a TODO? | 20:15 |
| dprince | lifeless: I'm trying to dig out of a hole of sorts... but will probably try to come too | 20:16 |
| dprince | lifeless: cool. that is a good number. | 20:16 |
| lifeless | dprince: you're one of them according to mark mcloughlin :) | 20:16 |
| dprince | lifeless: Yeah. I've been given the green light... just haven't bought a ticket. ETOOMUCHWORK | 20:16 |
| lifeless | jog0: yeah, we're not part of the coordinated release at the moment... | 20:16 |
| SpamapS | Heat is tho | 20:17 |
| lifeless | jog0: I hope to keep us on the CD train and not fall back to intermittent releases. We'll see. | 20:17 |
| jog0 | lifeless: right, but for any triplo related BPs in other projects, such as Heat | 20:17 |
| lifeless | jog0: yeah :(. | 20:17 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: get ready to run branches ? | 20:17 |
| SpamapS | which is why I've lost hope that Havana will have rolling updates.. but will pick it back up again after release. | 20:17 |
| lifeless | I really want to see the other projects stop freezing, and instead stop destabilising. | 20:17 |
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| SpamapS | lifeless: me too, but your first argument for that was met with "if its not ready it shouldn't be merged" .. so.. long uphill road to travel. | 20:18 |
| lifeless | I need to find who to sit on to debate this with, before I lose all my excess weight and can no longer use that tactic. | 20:18 |
| jog0 | lifeless: whats the difference? | 20:18 |
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| lifeless | jog0: freezing is used to recover from destablized branches. | 20:18 |
| lifeless | jog0: if you don't destabilise, you don't need to freeze. | 20:18 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: its ok, stress has me packing on the pounds, I will sit wherever you want me to. ;) | 20:18 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: :(. Can we help? | 20:19 |
| jog0 | lifeless: makes sense | 20:19 |
| SpamapS | Yes, please tell my house to stop breaking. :) | 20:19 |
| SpamapS | hopefully temporary :) | 20:19 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: I will waggle my fingers at it when I fly over it next | 20:19 |
| SpamapS | lifeless: ok, its the one with the pool on a side of a hill. Can't miss it. | 20:20 |
| lifeless | jog0: I could use your help with nova after this btw | 20:20 |
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| jog0 | lifeless: kk | 20:20 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: real hardware: now that I have a basically working overcloud story in devtest | 20:20 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: I have a few more iterations of 'move stuff from in-instance to API scripts' | 20:20 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: then it's time to re-review 'deploying.md' | 20:21 |
| SpamapS | yeah I think that will help a lot with the instructions to do stuff on hardware. | 20:21 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: right now, they should be able to just read both devtest.md and deploying.md and get a good outcome | 20:21 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: but some assembly required. | 20:21 |
| SpamapS | yeah they're willing to hack and trying to get management to sign the OpenStack CLA so they can submit patches as part of day jobs. | 20:22 |
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| lifeless | SpamapS: good stuff! | 20:22 |
| lifeless | SpamapS: send em to #tripleo :) | 20:22 |
| SpamapS | some weird security thing forbids them from being in IRC on their work computers (credit card processing limitations) | 20:22 |
| SpamapS | anyway :) | 20:22 |
| * SpamapS has not eaten lunch yet and votes that we end early unless we have anything more important than me eating. | 20:23 | |
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| lifeless | okies | 20:25 |
| lifeless | #endmeeting | 20:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 12 20:25:18 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-08-12-20.00.html | 20:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-08-12-20.00.txt | 20:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tripleo/2013/tripleo.2013-08-12-20.00.log.html | 20:25 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha | 20:58 |
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| arosen | hiya | 20:59 |
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| enikanorov | hi | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | ji | 21:00 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:00 |
| GeoffArnold | hi | 21:00 |
| hajay | hi | 21:00 |
| garyk | hi guys | 21:00 |
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| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam, armax, arosen, marun: around? | 21:01 |
| emagana | hola | 21:01 |
| arosen | yuppp markmcclain | 21:02 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: here, hi all! | 21:02 |
| emagana | will be around for a little bit!! :-) | 21:02 |
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| RajeshMohan | Hi | 21:02 |
| sadasu | Hi | 21:02 |
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| markmcclain | #startmeeting Networking | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 12 21:02:45 2013 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
| markmcclain | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | #info arosen is now a member of the stable team | 21:03 |
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| garyk | yay! | 21:03 |
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| markmcclain | Will definitely be nice to increase our review bandwidth there. | 21:04 |
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| arosen | Yup :) | 21:05 |
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| markmcclain | The Havana Feature Proposal Freeze is 11 days away. Any approve blueprint that does not have code proposed by then will not make the Havana. | 21:05 |
| markmcclain | #topic Bugs | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: Networking)" | 21:06 | |
| markmcclain | Last week was a bit of a bumpy right getting items approved and merged through the gate. We had several critical items pop up | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | and solved most of the them. The lone exception is this one: | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1210664 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1210664 in neutron "neutron can't setup basic network connnectivity in gate jobs" [Critical,Confirmed] | 21:07 |
| markmcclain | Currently, tempest skips this test. I know marun has been looking into it | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | Another important bug changes the way the db schema is created: | 21:08 |
| markmcclain | https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1207402 | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1207402 in neutron "neutron should automatically stamp the database version when it is deployed" [High,In progress] | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | I am keeping the patches in WIP at the moment | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando is working on this, so if there are problems switching from auto creation to running migrations like the other integrated projects please let the team know | 21:09 |
| salv-orlando | I've heard from nati-ueno that removal of DB_ENGINE global breaks metaplugin, so I want to make sure no plugin is broken before really proposing theam | 21:09 |
| salv-orlando | * them | 21:09 |
| markmcclain | salv-orlando: makes sense | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | One more thing is that if you're not sure your plugin fully leverages migrations, this is the time to do so. | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | emagana already did this for the plum grid plugin | 21:10 |
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| emagana | if somebody is interested, this is the patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41005/ | 21:11 |
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| markmcclain | emagana: looks like you've been unlucky with merge conflicts.. hopefully the third time will be the last | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | Any bugs the team needs to discuss? | 21:13 |
| markmcclain | #topic Docs | 21:13 |
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| emagana | Nothing new about Docs, working on some cleaning | 21:14 |
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| markmcclain | We have 3 major categories of new docs we're tracking: VPN, Firewall and ML2 | 21:14 |
| emagana | nati_ueno and sumitNaiksatam working on FwaaS and VNPaaS | 21:14 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura: I assigned you to the ML2 doc bug, but feel free to reassign to someone on the ml2 subteam | 21:14 |
| nati_ueno | hi! sorry late | 21:14 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: ok | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | nati_ueno: np. We've assigned you 1 bug for each minute you've been late :p | 21:15 |
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| nati_ueno | salv-orlando: ha ha | 21:16 |
| markmcclain | Any other doc items? | 21:17 |
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| emagana | nothing from my side! | 21:17 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: for fwaas, i would prefer to put the admin patch after the driver patch gets approved | 21:17 |
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| markmcclain | SumitNaiksatam: ok | 21:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | similarly for the API patch, i would prefer to get confirmation on the commit operation | 21:18 |
| SumitNaiksatam | driver patch I believe is very close - we can discuss in the FWaaS section | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I wanted to discuss commit during the FWaaS report | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | #topic Stable | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | moving up because garyk has a conflict at the bottom of the hour | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | #link http://tarballs.openstack.org/neutron/quantum-2013.1.3.tar.gz | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | garyk: Anything else to add? | 21:20 |
| garyk | last week the stable grizzly branch was release | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | Ok looks like he's left | 21:21 |
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| markmcclain | oops.. you're still around :) | 21:21 |
| garyk | nothing else much to add. guess we need to start to work on the new backports now | 21:21 |
| garyk | yeah, sorry i am preparing a list of the open nova reviews regarding neutron | 21:21 |
| garyk | but nothing imporant to add regarding the stable. sorry | 21:22 |
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| pcm_ | VPNaaS API doc is almost ready to review. | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | Yeah.. the week after a stable release is always quiet | 21:23 |
| markmcclain | #topic Nova | 21:23 |
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| garyk | there are quite a lot of open reviews - would be nice if other can also jump in: | 21:23 |
| garyk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/31061/ | 21:23 |
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| garyk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38803/ - i think that this will not work as the default device_id is '' | 21:24 |
| dkehn | yep | 21:24 |
| garyk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36138/ | 21:24 |
| garyk | and last but not least: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40561/ | 21:24 |
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| garyk | if others can take a look it would be great. thanks | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | Thanks for sharing these | 21:26 |
| markmcclain | Any other nova questions? | 21:27 |
| dkehn | wondering if I can get some help with test_neutronv2.py | 21:27 |
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| garyk | dkehn: sure. i can help you offline if you wnat | 21:28 |
| dkehn | garyk, that would be great | 21:28 |
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| markmcclain | #topic API | 21:29 |
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| markmcclain | salv-orlando: hi | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | hellp | 21:29 |
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| salv-orlando | hello - nothing major to report. | 21:29 |
| garyk | i am going to call it a night. sorry guys. | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | oh I thought things were melting down on the API side :) | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | garyk: bye | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | is there something I don't know? | 21:29 |
| salv-orlando | I am melting down, but this is an unrelated matter | 21:30 |
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| salv-orlando | or perhaps something I forgot because of the late hour | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | haha.. I thought there was something I didn't know | 21:30 |
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| markmcclain | #topic VPN | 21:30 |
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| salv-orlando | no everything is quiet luckily | 21:30 |
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| markmcclain | yes.. always nice when the API is quiet at the end of h3 | 21:31 |
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| nati_ueno | OK ipsec driver is still in review. | 21:31 |
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| nati_ueno | In this week, I posed status update code https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40993/ (WIP) | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | ok.. I see if was updated Friday.. I'll checkout the new code | 21:32 |
| nati_ueno | I'm also working on supporting service type framework | 21:32 |
| nati_ueno | markmcclain: Thanks | 21:32 |
| nati_ueno | client patch is still in review | 21:32 |
| nati_ueno | That's all from me | 21:32 |
| markmcclain | nati_ueno: thanks for updating | 21:32 |
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| markmcclain | #topic LBaaS | 21:33 |
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| enikanorov | hi. nothing much changed from last week | 21:33 |
| markmcclain | looks like 2 patches in review at the moment | 21:33 |
| enikanorov | support for service type framework review got +2 from nati_ueno | 21:33 |
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| enikanorov | this one is to be reviewed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/40381/ | 21:34 |
| enikanorov | today I've posted https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41396/ as a first step towards more flexible vip-pool relationship | 21:35 |
| enikanorov | probably that's all significant code for lbaas in H-3 | 21:35 |
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| enikanorov | and that's all from my side for today | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | great thanks for getting it in early! | 21:36 |
| markmcclain | #topic FWaaS | 21:36 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 21:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Agent patch was merged today, thanks to SridarK for putting in work on this patch | 21:36 |
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| markmcclain | So the iptables driver is that is left correct? | 21:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | CLI patch was merged last week, thanks to KC | 21:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: yeah, driver is left | 21:36 |
| SumitNaiksatam | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34074 | 21:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | its pretty close, already has Salvatore's blessing (and Armando's +1) | 21:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | anyone else has any thoughts/objections on this patch? | 21:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | RajeshMohan is here | 21:37 |
| armax | I'm btw | 21:37 |
| armax | sorry I'm late :) | 21:37 |
| RajeshMohan | I am here Sumit | 21:37 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: I'll re-review today | 21:37 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I believe RajeshMohan will be doing a rebase shortly | 21:38 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: thanks | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | I think Armando's +1 should be read as a -1 with the caveat that you can improve exception handling in another patch | 21:38 |
| RajeshMohan | My rebase will be in soon | 21:38 |
| armax | yeah…I think if we can improve the exception handling I'd be a happy bunny :) | 21:38 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | armax, salv-orlando: it will be good to point out what exactly is expected | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | I really don't know that :) Perhaps RajeshMohan has a better idea | 21:39 |
| SumitNaiksatam | i think the current model is preserving the abstraction between the driver and the agent | 21:39 |
| RajeshMohan | I can check with Armando to understand what he expects | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | As currently written I'm −1 | 21:40 |
| armax | yeah…let's take this offline | 21:40 |
| armax | I | 21:40 |
| markmcclain | LOG.error and then converting the exception to a string loses lots of context | 21:40 |
| RajeshMohan | Since driver will be vendor specific, we did not want to pass those exceptions to agent | 21:40 |
| armax | am around after the call if | 21:40 |
| armax | I can be of help | 21:41 |
| markmcclain | I'll add my comments to the review | 21:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | The horizon patch is complete but is waiting on Akihiro (who is on vacation) and also needs one more Horizon core | 21:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | I pushed the patch for the "explicit commit operation" yesterday night - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41353/ | 21:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this has a little more work to do on the plugin side (which I should be able to complete by today), but from an API perspective it has everything to give you a feel for what we are doing, would appreciate your feedback | 21:41 |
| SumitNaiksatam | Aaron, I did not see your email earlier, but I have responded to it a couple of hours back | 21:42 |
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| salv-orlando | I think we mentioned the ability of doing a bulk create several times doing the API patch review. | 21:42 |
| salv-orlando | Sumit, can you refresh my mind on why we did not follow that route but preferred a two step process? | 21:42 |
| SumitNaiksatam | salv-orlando: bulk create is different from the requirement for commit | 21:43 |
| SumitNaiksatam | salv-orlando: i also don't recall discuss this to the extent of several times | 21:43 |
| salv-orlando | sorry several times for me is >1 | 21:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the two step process is the approach we have followed from day one (even while discussing the in the summit) to allow policy auditing | 21:44 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bulk operations are kind of complementary to this discussion | 21:45 |
| SumitNaiksatam | but different | 21:45 |
| salv-orlando | ok, perhaps the discussion on bulk operations derails from the focus of the topic | 21:46 |
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| markmcclain | I'll need to look at the implementation | 21:46 |
| SumitNaiksatam | salv-orlando: yeah, i think we can have bulk operations regardless but those will be on the rules/policies | 21:47 |
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| markmcclain | but I had a few concerns over agent restarts and which version of the policy actually gets applied | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | I don't know if anybody has an opinion on committing rules with an explicit action. As already said, I am not a big fan of it, but since I understand the need for it, and I don't have a better alternative, I will accept it. | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | Or I will reserve the right to look at the implementation as markmcclain said | 21:47 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: that part will be handled in the implementation | 21:47 |
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| nati_ueno | I have concern about consistency of API model. | 21:48 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain, salv-orlando: essentially we will follow the current model of pending states | 21:48 |
| nati_ueno | if all resources will have commit mode, it sounds big change.. | 21:48 |
| salv-orlando | yup, but i guess you need to save 'committed' and 'desired' state for each rule | 21:48 |
| nati_ueno | because current implemenation looks have additional pending change table | 21:48 |
| SumitNaiksatam | nati_ueno: why should all resources have commit mode? | 21:49 |
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| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: because needs for commit operation is generic one | 21:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | for other resources policy is not separate from their own state | 21:49 |
| SumitNaiksatam | this is kind of different for the firewall model | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | Ok looks like there is more to discuss, so let's look at the code: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/41353/ | 21:50 |
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| nati_ueno | gotcha | 21:50 |
| SumitNaiksatam | markmcclain: sure | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | and then follow-up on the ML for concerns about the big picture | 21:50 |
| markmcclain | and in the review if there are code specific items | 21:50 |
| dflorea | I'm also not clear why all resources would have a commit mode. I think only firewalls require a commit to allow policies to be applied to firewalls one firewall at a time. | 21:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | dflorea: thats correct | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: dflorea: I'll post my comment in the mailing list, so let's continue | 21:51 |
| SumitNaiksatam | we have a model where one policy can be associated with multiple firewalls | 21:51 |
| nati_ueno | SumitNaiksatam: dflorea: I'll post my comment in the mailing list, so let's continue on there | 21:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | current model of implicit commit does not lend well to that | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. we're running short on time | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | Any other FWaaS items/ | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | ? | 21:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | yeah, sure i am done with the update on the fwwas | 21:52 |
| SumitNaiksatam | thanks for all the reviews | 21:52 |
| markmcclain | #topic ML2 | 21:52 |
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| markmcclain | rkukura: hi | 21:52 |
| rkukura | hi | 21:52 |
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| rkukura | nothing major to report | 21:52 |
| rkukura | devstack support for ml2 has been improved | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | was going to ask about it | 21:53 |
| rkukura | various mechanism drivers and portbinding BPs under development | 21:53 |
| rkukura | once the gating is stable, should we think about adding ml2 to the gating? | 21:53 |
| markmcclain | right now it is the default config which is OVS | 21:54 |
| markmcclain | so I think the next logical step for deprecation is making the ml2+ovs the default in devstack | 21:55 |
| rkukura | should we start gating on it before switching default? | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | I think that would make sense to be the least disruptive | 21:55 |
| markmcclain | we can talk offline the CI folks for their feedback on that plan | 21:56 |
| nati_ueno | rkukura: That's possible, so may be we need to discuss with it with clarkb or jeblair | 21:56 |
| rkukura | OK | 21:56 |
| markmcclain | Anything else? | 21:56 |
| rkukura | not that I can think of - anyone else? | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | #topic Horizon | 21:56 |
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| markmcclain | amotoki is traveling this week, but has updated Horizon report on the agenda | 21:57 |
| markmcclain | #topic Open Discussion | 21:57 |
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| pcm_ | I have a quick question... For VPNaaS API doc review, should I just do std gerrit review (diffs are hard to review), or also create a PDF for early review rounds? | 21:57 |
| ivar-lazzaro | I've updated the embrane's plugin patch, it'll appreciate some love :) : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/38222/ | 21:57 |
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| nati_ueno | pcm_: review is enough :) | 21:58 |
| hajay | I wanted to schedule a discussion around the policy and ipam blueprint we submitted at juniper-plugin-with-extensions | 21:58 |
| jackmccann | for open discussion: would be nice to see this in H-3: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/multi-workers-for-api-server | 21:58 |
| salv-orlando | pcm_: we can build the pdfs from the patch under review | 21:58 |
| markmcclain | pcm_: standard gerrit review is fine | 21:58 |
| pcm_ | nati_ueno: Just wondering what's easies to read. | 21:58 |
| pcm_ | ok | 21:58 |
| hajay | would a discussion in ML be better or do we need an IRC meeting to discuss? | 21:58 |
| nati_ueno | pcm_: yeah, generating pdf is quite easy if it is on review | 21:58 |
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| nati_ueno | pcm_: but commenting is hard in the pdf | 21:59 |
| pcm_ | nati_ueno: roger that. Will Gerrit | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | jakemccann: I would be happy to assist with that review, but I would like to hear from somebody else from the community whether it's ok to have this kind of change in the last milestone of the release cycle | 21:59 |
| jackmccann | multi-workers-for-api-server has code up for review | 21:59 |
| salv-orlando | jackmccann: see above (sorry I mistype your nick) | 22:00 |
| jackmccann | salv-orlando: thanks, would be nice to have thoughts from core on which direction to take | 22:00 |
| markmcclain | I see the benefit.. my biggest concern at this point is stability | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | I think the direction is fine. My concern is stability. | 22:01 |
| markmcclain | and the amount of time left to test | 22:01 |
| salv-orlando | Sorry mark | 22:01 |
| jackmccann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/37131 based on glance (we've been running since May) | 22:01 |
| nati_ueno | jackmccann: is that func can be optional function by conf | 22:01 |
| jackmccann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36487/ using openstack/common/service.py | 22:01 |
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| jackmccann | yes, it is optional, set number of workers to zero in conf (would be default, no change in current behavior) | 22:02 |
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| jackmccann | salv-orlando will follow-up with you folks offline | 22:02 |
| markmcclain | jackmccann: sounds good | 22:02 |
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| nati_ueno | salv-orlando: I'm +1 for this bp in H3, I'm also happy to assist the review | 22:03 |
| markmcclain | Any other items for discussion? | 22:03 |
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| markmcclain | Ok.. We've got 11 days left before the freeze and other projects have deadlines around the same time next week | 22:05 |
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| markmcclain | so expect that the time the CI systems to evaluate could be longer if there are lots of pending reviews (which always happens during H3) | 22:06 |
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| markmcclain | Have a good week | 22:06 |
| markmcclain | #endmeeting | 22:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 12 22:06:29 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-08-12-21.02.html | 22:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-08-12-21.02.txt | 22:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2013/networking.2013-08-12-21.02.log.html | 22:06 |
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| salv-orlando | adieu | 22:07 |
| nati_ueno | Sayonara! | 22:07 |
| SumitNaiksatam | bye | 22:07 |
| rkukura | bye | 22:08 |
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