Friday, 2013-07-19

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* whenry wonders did he miss the memo13:05
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markmchey hey14:00
markmcwho's around?14:00
flaper87yo yo14:00
zyluoo/14:00
lbragstadhey14:00
markmc#startmeeting oslo14:00
openstackMeeting started Fri Jul 19 14:00:41 2013 UTC.  The chair is markmc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: oslo)"14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'oslo'14:00
* whenry is on14:00
markmc#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/HavanaOsloMessaging14:00
flaper87\o/14:00
markmcdoug sent his apologies14:01
markmcrussellb, ?14:01
markmcwho else?14:01
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flaper87whenry:14:01
whenryyep14:01
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markmcsimo, ?14:02
markmclet's get going14:02
whenryTross,  you here?14:02
markmc#topic oslo.messaging update14:02
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whenryoops tedross you here too?14:02
markmcI dumped a bunch of updates into the etherpad there14:02
markmcsince the last meeting ...14:02
tedrosswhenry: I'm here14:02
markmcwe've got an oslo.messaging repo rather than a fork of oslo-incubator14:02
markmcAPI docs published14:02
markmcgood test coverage14:02
markmcI think the API design is solid at this point14:03
markmcpity it doesn't actually do anything yet :)14:03
whenry:)14:03
* markmc started hacking on the kombu driver yesterday14:03
markmcmy plan is to pull the kombu/amqp code into oslo.messaging with the minimum amount of modifications14:03
* whenry started looking at API with respect to qpid/proton14:03
markmcand just get it working14:04
flaper87markmc: I'm going down that road with qpid's14:04
markmcthen later refactor as needed14:04
simomaI'm here14:04
markmcflaper87, cool14:04
flaper87I had to take care of other things in the las few weeks but I got back to it today14:04
markmcwhenry, cool14:04
flaper87and it's looking definitely better14:04
whenryfyi I think there is a impl_qpid and an impl_proton.14:04
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whenryimpl_proton is just impl_qpid without the assumption of a qpidd14:05
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markmcwhenry, how about we talk about proton support as a separate topic?14:05
whenryimpl_proton is pure AMQP 1.0 based on the qpid/proton14:05
markmcwhenry, want to dig into it, but the first task of oslo.messaging is just parity with the existing code14:05
whenrymarkmc, yep14:05
whenry+114:05
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whenryI will support flaper87 on that14:06
markmchas anyone any hope at this point we can get e.g. nova switched over to oslo.messaging for havana?14:06
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markmcI'm still not ruling it out14:06
markmcbut maybe I'm being a bit crazy14:06
flaper87markmc: I think we can make it14:06
markmcnice, I like it :)14:06
flaper87I'm planning to work on this qpid stuff next week 'til I finish it14:06
whenry+114:07
markmcok, great14:07
markmcwell ... at some point coming up to havana-3, there'll be a cut off point14:07
whenrymost of my questions have been either answered by the docs or will be figured out with flaper8714:07
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markmci.e. unless nova is using it at this point, we delay to icehouse14:07
markmcbecause this will really need a settling in period14:07
markmc#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Havana_Release_Schedule14:07
tedrossmarkmc: is there a possibility for tech-preview in Havana?14:08
flaper87Agreed14:08
whenryi.e. all the namespace stuff makes total sense and I don't see any issues14:08
markmctedross, we can't do "tech preview of Nova using oslo.messaging"14:08
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markmctedross, we can certainly do "tech preview of oslo.messaging but nothing in Havana is using it"14:08
markmctedross, i.e. Nova using it is all-or-nothing14:09
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markmcwe can't even do something like "let's use oslo.messaging for nova-api talking to nova-scheduler and everything else uses the existing rpc stuff"14:09
whenryack14:09
tedrossso a tech-preview of proton in Havana would have to be under Nova14:09
markmcthat would be cool for testing interop, but I can't see how we'd do it14:09
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flaper87Nova's migration means we migrate the oslo-notification as well, right?14:09
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flaper87erm, notifier*14:09
markmctedross, we're talking about proton separately in a few minutes :)14:09
tedrossnp14:10
markmcflaper87, yep14:10
flaper87markmc: cool14:10
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whenryI want to add collapsing the # exchanges in the conversation on impl_qpid too14:10
whenrythere are two reasons for it. let me know when we can discuss that14:10
markmcok, I'm gonna say we'll have a meeting August 16th14:10
markmcand that'll be the go/no-go point14:11
whenryack14:11
flaper87markmc: sounds good14:11
markmc#info go/no-go on oslo.messaging in Havana on August 16th14:11
markmcwhenry, so, collapsing # of exchanges14:11
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markmcfirst thing is we need interoperability14:11
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whenrycollapsing the # of exchanges != oslo messaging exchanges14:12
whenryit meands qpidd exchange artifacts14:12
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whenryinteroperability?14:12
markmcfor upgrades, we do need to allow e.g. havana nova-compute talk to grizzly nova-scheduler14:12
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whenryah14:12
markmcso, even e.g. renaming exchanges or topics would need to be opt-in14:13
markmcand a deprecation period of the old setup14:13
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whenryok so we can figure out how that would work14:13
markmcso, yeah - we need interop14:13
markmcand secondly, the priority here is getting parity working14:13
whenryi.e. would updating the nova rpc version mean interop?14:13
markmcso I don't really see this as a good time for doing any cleanups14:13
whenryi.e. the new nova/rpc version would use the same addressing as the oslo.messaging versions14:14
markmcwhenry, no, we actually need to be able to talk the old version14:14
markmcwe can add a new version14:14
markmcbut can't lose support for the old version14:14
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markmcso, even fixing something like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/oslo/+bug/117355214:14
whenryok. so two versions ... because really there are two issues with the old way:14:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1173552 in oslo "rpc-api-review: topic names can conflict across exchanges" [High,Triaged]14:14
markmci.e. the fanout exchanges are called $topic_fanout_...14:15
markmcwhich means you can't just change the control_exchange config14:15
markmcto have two nova's on the same broker without conflicting14:15
whenry1. there are still some (not as many) leaked exchanges due to qpidd not supporting auto-delete on exchanges (which I'm not sure is in the spec anyway)14:15
whenry2. Using federation.14:15
markmcok14:16
markmcbut again - whatever issues there are with the current implementation14:16
markmcoslo.messaging will need to have those issues two14:16
markmcinterop and parity first priority14:16
whenryok.14:16
markmccleanups would really be for icehouse IMHO14:16
markmcok, I think we've beaten this to death14:16
markmcanything else on oslo.messaging?14:17
flaper87markmc: what about configuration parameters? For example, we have qpid_sasl_mechanisms in oslo.rpc14:17
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markmc(apart from secure messaging, proton, etc. - separate topics)14:17
flaper87and I removed the qpid_ part14:17
markmcflaper87, yes, we need to continue supporting them14:17
flaper87since those are tight to the url14:17
markmcexisting config must stay working14:17
flaper87ok14:17
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flaper87so, support for existing oslo configs and new configs based on urls14:18
flaper87then we can deprecate the ones based on oslo.config in future versions14:18
markmcyeah14:18
flaper87cool14:18
markmcconfig options in the URL would take priority14:18
markmcso, even control_exchange versus rabbit:///$exchange14:19
markmcif you set the exchange in the URL, that takes precedence over control_exchange14:19
markmcok, moving on14:19
markmc#topic secure messaging14:19
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markmcsimo, hey hey hey14:19
markmcsimo, could you give us an update?14:19
simoyes14:19
* markmc digs up the URLs of all the reviews14:19
simothe patches I have work just fine14:20
simoI am working with ayoung now to get the server side into keystone14:20
simo(reviews welcome)14:20
markmc#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/trusted-messaging14:20
simothe patches currently up for review are WIP as adam has another patch inline we may want to depend on14:20
ayoungbig issue with the review is the SQL repo.  We want to keep it separate, but curent focus on Alembic is undermining that effort14:20
simo(splits DB per keystone component to avoid migration issues)14:21
markmc#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/key-distribution-server14:21
ayoung#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/36731/14:21
simoayoung: my plan is to go ahead w/o splitting soon14:21
markmcayoung, that keystone blueprint isn't triaged/approved yet14:21
simomarkmc: so from oslo-incubator pov we are just waiting on keystone side14:21
simofrom oslo.messaging pov I .. don't know how we want to proceed14:22
markmcsimo, yeah, I think now is a good time for oslo-core to review the oslo-incubator patches14:22
markmcand look over the keystone side of it too14:22
ayoung we have a chicken/egg problem with it that the mechanism needs extensions to test it14:22
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markmcsimo, don't worry too much about oslo.messaging just yet ... either you or I can add it at some point, but getting it into oslo-incubator is the first step14:23
simomarkmc: ok14:23
markmcI'm happy for the oslo-incubator stuff to land if keystone-core are generally nodding at the idea of the key distribution server in keystone14:23
markmchence my question about the blueprint approval14:23
simomarkmc: is it ok to abandon old reviews and start a new one from scratch ?14:23
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markmcsimo, it's better not to - it's preferable to keep the conversations tied together14:24
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markmcsimo, even if you split up the patches a bit more, it's nice to keep the original Change-Id for one of the new patches14:24
simomarkmc: ok, then I will just update the old review with the latest code today14:25
markmcayoung, is keystone-core generally nodding at the idea of the key distribution server in keystone?14:25
markmcsimo, super14:25
ayoungmarkmc, yes, since it is only going in as an extension14:25
markmcayoung, can we get the bp approved, then?14:26
ayoungmarkmc, will do14:26
markmce.g. ttx looks at the oslo blueprint and assumes it's all blocked because the keystone bp isn't approved14:26
markmcsimo, I hope I get to review really soon14:27
markmcsimo, still super excited about getting this in14:27
simomarkmc: me too14:27
simomarkmc: now one more comment on implementation14:27
markmc<openstackgerrit> Simo Sorce proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: RPC: Add MessageSecurity implementation  https://review.openstack.org/3791214:27
markmc<openstackgerrit> Simo Sorce proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: RPC: Add support for optional message signing  https://review.openstack.org/3791314:27
markmc<openstackgerrit> Simo Sorce proposed a change to openstack/oslo-incubator: Add support for retrieving group keys  https://review.openstack.org/3791414:27
simomarkmc: setup is all pretty manual still, is there a place I should put docs on how to do it ?14:28
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markmcsimo, a wiki page would be a great start14:28
simomarkmc: where should I land it ?14:28
markmcsimo, including DocImpact in the commit message helps alert docs folks14:28
markmcsimo, where on the wiki?14:28
simonods14:28
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markmchttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MessageSecurityHowto ?14:29
simoI'll do14:29
markmccool14:29
markmcok, excellent14:29
simoso what I have now secures 1-1 communication if you espcify and explicit topic/host14:29
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simoit can also protect 1-many if the target is anything but 'compute'14:30
markmcinteresting, why is that?14:30
simowell you could add a 'compute' group too but then you will not protect one compute from anothr14:30
markmcthe !compute bit, I mean14:30
markmcok, right14:30
markmcnot technical limitation so much as not recommended14:30
simobecause I assume you can trust scheduler1 and scheduler2 to be at the same trust level14:30
markmcyeah14:30
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simoas scheduler1 can grab the group key for 'schduler' and forge messages as if they were from another14:31
* dhellmann arrives late14:31
markmcthat covers a lot of cases, though14:31
markmce.g. scheduler mostly talks to specific compute hosts14:31
simomarkmc: indeed it does14:31
markmcwelcome dhellmann14:31
simofanout messages to compute.* are rare14:31
markmcyeah14:31
dhellmannhi, sorry I'm late!14:31
simoand usually they ask compute.* to do something14:31
simoso even if they are not protected when compute.host then sends something to the targte, that message will be protected14:32
simomarkmc: once we get this code in I am still planning to take a hard look at supporting public/private signing too14:32
simomarkmc: to try to cover also the compute.* target case14:32
simothe API should alredy be flsxible enough for that14:32
markmcgreat14:34
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markmcok, great14:35
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markmcsimo, feel free to fill in anything I misrepresented14:35
markmc#topic qpid/proton support14:35
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markmcok, whenry - you're up :)14:35
whenryok14:35
markmccould you give everyone a brief summary of what this is all about?14:35
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whenryso impl_proton would be a pure amqp 1.0 that uses the proton library14:36
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whenryit would not care about qpidd artifacts14:36
whenryit would support exchanges in the namespace14:37
whenryas the osl.messaging would support - i.e. exchanges are just a HLQ on the namespace14:37
whenryqpidd or other intermeddiaries like qpid Dispatch could be used14:38
markmc#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-July/thread.html#1145114:38
tedrossremoves the dependency on brokers - and would allow for HA without broker clustering14:38
whenryalso would allow for the move over to a more federated setup14:38
tedrossand removes the scale limitations that brokers cause14:38
markmcyeah, that's probably the key message for most people14:38
markmcthis would be an amqp driver which would allow peer-to-peer style messaging architecture similar to what you can do with the zmq driver14:39
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whenryso people could still use qpidd as their broker if they wish (qpidd now supports AMQP 1.0 using the proton libraries)14:39
markmcwhat's "a more federated setup" ?14:39
markmcin the context of openstack?14:39
markmcsay, nova for example14:39
tedrossnetwork-topology vs clusters14:39
whenryjust fyi for others: qpid/rpton is a library that provides a pure amqp 1.0 support14:40
markmcwhat would the topology look like for a large scale nova deployment?14:40
whenryanyone can use it to make their app/broker/etc. amqp 1.0 compliant14:40
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dhellmannwould it use the matchmaker to help the peers find each other like the zmq driver? or is that something built into amqp 1.0?14:40
tedrossmarkmc: you would use a topology similar to a network topology in a datacenter - dual everything with crossed links14:41
tedrosswith regional pairs and backbones14:41
whenrytopology can have many  intermediaries (like qpid/dispatch) that merely route messages on. alternate routes can be found. geo areas can be defined to limit widea area chattyness14:41
markmcso ... e.g. a pair of dispatch thingies per rack?14:41
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whenryor more14:42
tedrossmarkmc: yes14:42
tedrossor more, if needed14:42
whenryit's very light weight14:42
whenrymerely looks at addresses and moves message forward14:42
markmcI'd love to see an opinionated explanation of e.g. "here's what it should look like for a nova install of 20 racks, 30 compute nodes per rack"14:43
* markmc isn't loving "you can do it whatever way you like" type approach14:43
whenryin the topology you could support brokers too if there was some need ... but there probably wouldn't be with the right amount of redundancy in the network14:43
markmca concrete example would really help people understand why you think this would be useful for openstack14:44
tedrossmarkmc: +1  - I think the messaging topology would want to match the underlying networking topology as closely as possible14:44
dhellmann"less could, more should"14:44
tedrossi.e. if there are wan trunks in use, that would be a good place to put a messaging interconnect14:44
whenryshould because as we scale up to massive clouds over many geos then we need to have a more scalable solution14:45
markmcI'd keep it relatively simple14:45
markmci.e. a single geo14:45
markmcjust relatively large scale14:45
markmcignore nova cells for now14:45
tedrossthen three in a full-mesh would give you good availability14:46
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markmctedross, could you or whenry write that up in some more detail?14:46
* markmc would find it helpful14:46
tedrossno need for clustering or quarum management14:46
tedrossmarkmc: yes, I'd be happy to do that14:46
markmci.e. a writeup for people who don't spend much time thinking about messaging14:47
markmcok, cool14:47
markmcalso, a blueprint for this driver would be good too14:47
whenry+114:47
tedrossmarkmc: ack +114:47
markmcI'm assuming icehouse is the target at this point?14:47
tedrossit looks like it, yes14:47
whenrybut also another point14:47
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whenryimpl_proton will be pure AMQP 1.014:48
whenrynot just qpidd specific though qpidd will understand proton messages14:48
markmcyes14:48
whenryi.e. any AMQP 1.0 artifact can use this.14:48
markmcI still can't imagine that's going to matter for us though14:48
whenryso if some other broker tech came along that spoke amqp 1.0 then it would stil work14:48
markmce.g. having nova-compute use impl_proton and nova-scheduler using impl_some_other_amqp1014:48
markmcok, you're just saying the oslo.messaging driver isn't tieing you to a specific broker14:49
whenryright14:49
markmcunlike impl_rabbit and impl_qpid14:49
markmcok, got it14:49
* markmc has to move on14:49
markmc#topic eventlet dependency in oslo logging14:50
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markmclbragstad, you're on :)14:50
lbragstad#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34834/ for getting a unified logging solution from Oslo into Keystone.14:50
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lbragstadjust wanting to get some feedback on that there.14:50
markmc#link https://review.openstack.org/3483414:50
markmcI looked very briefly and was like, "uggh, this is getting messy"14:50
markmcbut I'm not opposed to the idea in principle14:50
markmcbut to back up here for a second14:50
dhellmannI wonder if that class couldn't be replaced with a single function that just returns the 2 stores?14:51
markmcoslo logging depends on the local store for the messaging context?14:51
lbragstadContextAdapter14:51
lbragstadin log.py14:51
markmci.e. the rpc code sets the context of the currently processing message?14:51
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markmcI haven't carried that over to oslo.messaging yet14:51
markmcwhich is another ball of wax14:51
markmcis there any better way of implementing this14:52
markmcwhich doesn't depend on eventlet?14:52
flaper87FWIW, I haven't looked at that patch but I'd love to remove local's dependency on eventlet.14:52
lbragstadI guess the way I did it, was just to use python's standard threading library14:52
lbragstadin the case we don't have eventlet installed on the system, like running keystone under Apache14:52
markmcdoes eventlet monkey patch the standard threading library's thread-local stuff?14:53
lbragstadyeah14:53
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markmci.e. so you get a thread local context per green thread?14:53
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markmcso local.py could just use the standard thread-local stuff?14:53
markmcnot use eventlet at all?14:53
markmcand eventlet will monkey patch it?14:53
* markmc waves hands14:53
mroddenit would be patched yea14:53
lbragstadcorrect14:54
dhellmannmarkmc: the problem with just relying on that approach is we can't have unit tests for both implementations14:54
lbragstadgiven the fact that we needed to detect that case, we also needed to address the test cases for it in a way that we could test the python threading implemetation with Eventlet installed14:54
dhellmannalthough we could do what we did in ceilometer with the nova notifier plugin, and run testr twice with different settings14:54
markmcdhellmann, yeah, I'm fine with that ... mostly because we're going to have this problem in oslo.messaging too14:55
* dhellmann nods14:55
markmclbragstad, ok, so I'd be happy with a patch to local.py which switches it to standard threading stuff14:55
markmcit would be monkey patched in our unit tests14:56
markmcand we can deal with adding tests for the non-eventlet case later14:56
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markmcthat would be a relatively simple patch, right?14:56
* flaper87 would be happy with that as well14:56
lbragstadmarkmc: ok so just switch everything to use python threading instead of the implementation were we have an object to build the store dynamically?14:56
markmcyeah14:56
lbragstadsimplier than what I have now I think ;)14:57
markmcI much prefer the simplicity of that14:57
dhellmannyou could probably go back to the original implementation and just replace the eventlet module with threading14:57
markmcright14:57
lbragstaddhellmann: markmc ok, sounds good... simple is good14:57
dhellmannmarkmk: as far as the tests go, if the tests for the local module don't import anything "bad" we should be able to reuse the same test cases, no?14:57
dhellmannlbragstad: sorry for steering you down the wrong path initially :-/14:58
markmcdhellmann, same test cases, but just different testr invocation?14:58
lbragstaddhellmann: no worries, I learned alot :)14:58
dhellmannmarkmc: right14:58
markmcdhellmann, yep14:58
dhellmannwe just need to take care with the imports14:58
dhellmannso we don't end up bringing eventlet in unexpectedly14:59
markmcwhat am I going to do for oslo.messaging?14:59
markmcadd a get_current_context() method?14:59
markmcI'm not going to expose the store in the API14:59
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dhellmannthe context we're talking about is the incoming rpc call context?14:59
markmcyeah15:00
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dhellmannyeah, I guess we need to provide a function somewhere for other modules to call to get it15:00
dhellmannwe could pass it to the callback we're given15:00
dhellmannbut that just moves the burden somewhere else15:00
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dhellmannis the oslo.messaging code still in your github repo, or is that on stackforge somewhere?15:01
markmcdhellmann,  https://github.com/openstack/oslo.messaging15:01
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markmcdhellmann, see https://etherpad.openstack.org/HavanaOsloMessaging15:01
* markmc is really proud of http://docs.openstack.org/developer/oslo.messaging/ :)15:01
dhellmannI saw you'd done that, but haven't had a chance to catch up yet15:02
markmcit only took me a year or so to publish the oslo.config docs15:02
mroddendhellmann, markmc: we're out of time but I was hoping to ask about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34253/ in open discussion. it was +2'd already but dhellman had some comments that I think are addressed now. its blocking a blueprint i have in nova :(15:02
markmcdhellmann, yep, cool15:02
flaper87markmc: +1 for those docs, I love them15:02
dhellmannmrodden: I'll take a look15:02
mroddendhellmann: thanks15:02
markmchow are we doing on reviews anyway?15:02
markmchttp://russellbryant.net/openstack-stats/oslo-openreviews.txt15:02
markmc--> Total Open Reviews: 5515:03
markmcthat's a lot15:03
* markmc caught up a week or two ago, behind again15:03
dhellmannditto15:03
markmcok, I think we're done15:04
* flaper87 reviewed the hell out of oslo just yesterday15:04
markmc5 minutes over15:04
flaper87:D15:04
lbragstadthanks guys!15:04
markmcflaper87, awesome15:04
mroddenthanks all15:04
markmcthanks everyone15:04
markmc#endmeeting15:04
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whenryflaper87, :)15:04
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2013/oslo.2013-07-19-14.00.html15:04
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dhellmannmarkmc: I think the dispatcher needs to save the context, and there should be a global function to retrieve it15:04
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2013/oslo.2013-07-19-14.00.log.html15:04
whenrythnx15:04
markmcdhellmann, you'd need a thread local thing still, though ?15:04
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markmcdhellmann, you could save the current dispatcher in a thread local, I guess15:05
dhellmannmarkmc: yeah, but that can be hidden inside the implementation of that global function and the thing the dispatcher uses to save the value15:05
markmcdhellmann, yep, totally15:05
markmcdhellmann, the only public piece of this would be the global function15:05
markmcdhellmann, even the dispatcher details of this would be private15:05
dhellmannright15:05
markmccool15:06
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