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| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 26 16:01:41 2013 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | hi all | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | quick meeting today, as I only have a couple of points to cover | 16:02 |
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| primeministerp | first, ociuhandu has some updates on the rdp-console-gateway progress | 16:02 |
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| primeministerp | ociuhandu: mind giving a status on the console proxy | 16:04 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: we're now getting close to integrating it with the dashboard | 16:04 |
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| ociuhandu | the webconnect part is working fine, we're now focusing in including it in the dashboard | 16:04 |
| ociuhandu | it's fairly straight-forward so I don't expect this to take too long | 16:05 |
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| primeministerp | ok | 16:06 |
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| primeministerp | ociuhandu: anything else to add? | 16:07 |
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| ociuhandu | primeministerp: not really | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | other than that I would like to continue the discussion of the puppet work | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | hmm | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | I don't see iben | 16:08 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: ping | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: do you want to discuss the puppet work? | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: if not we can continue at another time | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | looks like not a lot of activity | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | today | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | i'm going to end it early | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 16:11 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 26 16:11:22 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-26-16.01.html | 16:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-26-16.01.txt | 16:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-03-26-16.01.log.html | 16:11 |
| luis_fdez | uop, sorry primeministerp I was busy... but nothing new regarding puppet | 16:12 |
| luis_fdez | great the rdp news :) | 16:12 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: openstack-hyper-v | 16:19 |
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| dolphm | o/ | 18:00 |
| topol | Hi | 18:00 |
| henrynash | hi | 18:00 |
| dolphm | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:00 |
| spzala | Hi! | 18:00 |
| dolphm | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 26 18:00:29 2013 UTC. The chair is dolphm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: o/ | 18:00 |
| joesavak | o/ | 18:00 |
| dolphm | #topic Anything on fire? | 18:01 |
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| dolphm | (silence is appreciated here) | 18:01 |
| topol | :-) | 18:01 |
| henrynash | dolphm: so am debugging why the current master fails to run the test_sql_upgrade scripts on MySQL and PostGres | 18:01 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: master without my patch, you mean? | 18:02 |
| henrynash | dolphm: yes! | 18:02 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: does db_sync fail? | 18:02 |
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| ayoung | I'm here! | 18:03 |
| henrynash | dolphm: seems to be when you downgrade to zero…problem with tenant membership table | 18:03 |
| henrynash | ok with sqlite, of course | 18:03 |
| dwaite | ayoung: o/ | 18:03 |
| dolphm | henrynash: have you seen christopher yeoh's comments on a similar issue in postgresql? | 18:03 |
| henrynash | dolphm: yes | 18:03 |
| dolphm | 0->22->0 fails on postgres | 18:03 |
| dolphm | but only in test_sql_migrations | 18:03 |
| henrynash | dolphm: yea I found that too | 18:03 |
| henrynash | dophm: that matches what I have found…. | 18:04 |
| dolphm | henrynash: in db_sync or test_sql_upgrade? | 18:04 |
| henrynash | dolphm: test_sql_upgrade | 18:04 |
| dolphm | i'm inclined to say it's an issue with the test infrastructure, not an issue with the migrations | 18:04 |
| henrynash | dolphm: so I think its probably our bad test code….but want to make sure | 18:04 |
| henrynash | dolphm: I tend to agree | 18:04 |
| dolphm | i.e. test_sql_upgrade and test_sql_migrations aren't properly mimicking the process of db_sync | 18:05 |
| henrynash | dolphm: will try to get to the bottom of it | 18:05 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: thanks; if you find that it's an issue with db_sync, we need to raise a bug / backport fix ASAP | 18:05 |
| henrynash | dolphm: yep | 18:06 |
| henrynash | dolphm: I also just raised this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1160504 | 18:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160504 in keystone "Grizzly v2 catalog has slight formatting changes compared to Folsom" [Undecided,New] | 18:06 |
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| dolphm | oh wow, that's breaking | 18:06 |
| dolphm | err, hmm | 18:07 |
| dolphm | i reviewed this, hold on | 18:07 |
| dolphm | this was a mismatch between spec and reality | 18:07 |
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| dolphm | targeted that at rc2 for review, at minimum, i can't find the relevant patch atm | 18:09 |
| henrynash | dolphm: ok | 18:09 |
| dolphm | it was a tested change to the xml serializer though | 18:09 |
| dolphm | #topic Grizzly release candidate status (RC2) | 18:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grizzly release candidate status (RC2) (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:09 | |
| dolphm | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc2 | 18:09 |
| henrynash | dolphm: yea , remember it…and we added some special code doe links etc. | 18:10 |
| topol | dolphm, what is the target date for RC2? | 18:10 |
| dolphm | topol: always ASAP | 18:10 |
| dolphm | anyone aware of any other issues or patches that need to be backported, or considered for backporting to grizzly? | 18:10 |
| topol | dolphm, I am working on TLS Support for LDAP. Should be done soon | 18:11 |
| dolphm | topol: features especially can't be backported | 18:11 |
| dolphm | we' | 18:11 |
| dolphm | we're open for havana though :) | 18:11 |
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| gyee | dolphm, found an inconsistency with credential | 18:14 |
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| dolphm | gyee: link? | 18:14 |
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| gyee | in the spec we have "data", but in impl we have "blob" | 18:14 |
| gyee | I haven't file a bug yet | 18:14 |
| dolphm | gyee: unless we have a strong preference for 'data', i think we should fix the spec at this point | 18:14 |
| gyee | dolphm, no argument here | 18:15 |
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| dolphm | gyee: ping me when you have a review up | 18:16 |
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| dolphm | if we only have one issue left (that may not need a fix?), we might be able to cut rc2 today | 18:17 |
| dolphm | that was my goal before henrynash's issue at least :) | 18:17 |
| dolphm | #topic Review, revise & amend Keystone's release notes | 18:17 |
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| dolphm | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Grizzly#OpenStack_Identity_.28Keystone.29 | 18:17 |
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| dolphm | i got our release notes started last week, and have noticed a few contributions since | 18:17 |
| dolphm | i'd encourage everyone to make sure all the features and potential upgrade issues you're familiar with are included, and doc them if not -- even if it's just a stub so someone else can go fill it in later | 18:18 |
| gyee | dolphm, will oauth be part of rc2, or havana? | 18:18 |
| dolphm | gyee: havana | 18:18 |
| gyee | cool | 18:18 |
| topol | dolphm, do we have a blueprint for oauth? | 18:18 |
| ayoung | dolphm, TLS will probably be nominated for backport to Grizzly stable | 18:19 |
| dolphm | termie opened one today https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/delegated-auth-via-oauth | 18:19 |
| topol | dolphm, because adding oauth can me a couple of things | 18:19 |
| topol | dolphm, OK | 18:19 |
| gyee | yeah, LDAP + TLS is recommended | 18:19 |
| dolphm | topol: have you seen termie's impl? | 18:19 |
| dolphm | i don't believe it's in review, but it's on his github | 18:19 |
| gyee | doing LDAP auth without TLS/SSL is like driving without seatbelt :) | 18:19 |
| ayoung | dolphm, it was cursory last I looked | 18:20 |
| topol | dolphm, I have steve martinelli digesting as we speak | 18:20 |
| ayoung | let me see if he has updated | 18:20 |
| dolphm | i think that's why he didn't put it in review | 18:20 |
| dolphm | termie: feel free to post it to gerrit as WIP ;) | 18:20 |
| ayoung | +1 | 18:20 |
| ayoung | dolphm, also, is it possible to comment on the gist? | 18:21 |
| gyee | +1.0 | 18:21 |
| ayoung | #link https://gist.github.com/termie/5225817#file-delegated_auth | 18:21 |
| dolphm | ayoung: yes, you can comment on gists at the bottom of the page | 18:21 |
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| dolphm | #topic oauth support | 18:22 |
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| dolphm | because why not | 18:22 |
| dolphm | topol: is steve looking through the spec, impl, or both? | 18:23 |
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| stevemar | dolphm: both | 18:23 |
| dolphm | stevemar: thanks | 18:24 |
| ayoung | The more I learn about oauth, the more I think it is the right approach. Trusts is really a limited subset of the functionality, but it maps pretty clearly to oauth. The major benefit is that oauth provides a way that the remote service can specify what roles are requred | 18:24 |
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| dolphm | yeah, i think oauth is a great long term solution | 18:25 |
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| stevemar | ayoung: does that mean we will get rid of trusts? I think termie submitted something for that already | 18:25 |
| ayoung | Also, I think I was a bit put off by the bad reputation that oauth2 has, but didn't realize just how supported the version 1 protocol was. | 18:25 |
| dolphm | i'm just not familiar enough with it myself -- yet | 18:25 |
| ayoung | stevemar, no | 18:25 |
| ayoung | stevemar, more likely we will merge | 18:25 |
| gyee | dolphm, https://review.openstack.org/25421 | 18:26 |
| ayoung | stevemar, as I see it, anything set up with trusts can be served by oauth | 18:26 |
| dolphm | stevemar: care to share your initial impressions? | 18:26 |
| ayoung | so it is a superset of functioanlityy | 18:26 |
| stevemar | ayoung: yeah, from what I read - the community was split when v2 came out, v1 is well supported though | 18:26 |
| ayoung | long term, yeah, proably won'tbe much call for trusts | 18:26 |
| ayoung | but we need a way to prime the pump for delegation, and trusts will allow people to do that for Grizzly | 18:26 |
| stevemar | dolphm: still have to digest a lot of things, it's all coming in quickly now | 18:26 |
| topol | dolphm, so two ways to look at oauth. Using it between openstack components and using it to bridge the outside world to openstack world | 18:26 |
| ayoung | oauth should be in Havana, with a migration for established trusts, and the trust API will still work against the unified table | 18:27 |
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| topol | stevemar will gather use cases to make this more clear | 18:28 |
| ayoung | topol, it looks like using it between OS components is a pretty straightforward simplificaition of the overall protocol | 18:28 |
| topol | ayoung, assuming the other components buy in I agree! | 18:28 |
| ayoung | and one thing you could do if you didn't want to support the bridge would be to enforce that all consumers are entires in the user tables | 18:28 |
| dolphm | partly related summit session... | 18:29 |
| dolphm | #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/111 | 18:29 |
| topol | stevemar will gather info on the bridge to the world use case | 18:29 |
| dolphm | dwaite: ^ | 18:29 |
| stevemar | dolphm: i was *just* going to link that, but was afraid it would cause confusion :) | 18:29 |
| dwaite | not sure the community which was split on v2 | 18:29 |
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| ayoung | dwaite, oh yes it was | 18:30 |
| dwaite | one person involved in creating v2 rage-quit the project :) | 18:30 |
| ayoung | dwaite, he wasn;t the only one. | 18:30 |
| dolphm | dwaite: how much time do you intend to spend on oauth? | 18:30 |
| ayoung | Just the most visible | 18:30 |
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| dolphm | percentage wise | 18:30 |
| dwaite | I was thinking 10 minutes on oauth itself | 18:30 |
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| dwaite | 10 on saml, 2.5 on SCIM and JWT, saving 15 for talk | 18:31 |
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| dolphm | i suspect that the introduction of oauth might be the biggest change on the table for havana; if that's the case, i'd like to make sure we have a significant chunk of time dedicated to it at the summit | 18:32 |
| dwaite | more seriously wrt oauth 1 and 2, there are three usual points of contention on the protocol. One is that the tokens alone are used for authorization of the API, without any other user/client proof tokens. There are some efforts to add MAC profiles back to the spec for this | 18:32 |
| henrynash | dolphm:…and you may have seen I put in a second session for us to then talk about how we implment | 18:32 |
| dwaite | but the tokens in use today in openstack are the same; just a token, put in a header. | 18:33 |
| dolphm | henrynash: link? | 18:33 |
| dolphm | dwaite: ideally we don't have to change the X-Auth-Token infrastructure, as doing so would be an expensive and slow process | 18:34 |
| dwaite | second is that there is a push to have clients identified in general (limiting API access to clients who have registered and been approved and possibly agreed to terms of service). Its anti-hacker, while a fair number of people consider APIs to be complete fair game | 18:35 |
| henrynash | http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/edit/157 | 18:35 |
| dwaite | dolphm: I suspect that the first step would be to support the header style of OAuth (Authorization: Bearer <token>) in tandem | 18:35 |
| dolphm | #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/157 | 18:35 |
| dwaite | and phase that out slowly | 18:35 |
| dolphm | henrynash: swap /edit/ for /details/ | 18:35 |
| ayoung | So might I address that last point? | 18:36 |
| dwaite | the third issue I see people have with OAuth is that there are so many different options for acquiring a token. There are web flows, username password flows, flows where users aren't involved and its just service to service, etc. | 18:36 |
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| ayoung | As I see it, for getting beyond bearer tokens, there are three approaches worth addressing | 18:36 |
| dolphm | ayoung: absolutely; this wasn't anyone's specific time slot on the agenda | 18:36 |
| dwaite | this is probably the main reason people say oauth 2 is a framework, and not a protocol - because there is no MTI here, its just based on what you want to support | 18:36 |
| ayoung | 1. add a public key to the tokens, and sign the request. Lets call that "roll your own PKI" | 18:37 |
| dwaite | I would propose we support username/password to start, which is closest to what keystone does today, and move forth from there. | 18:37 |
| ayoung | 2. Kerberos, and extend the authorization data with the information we have in the token today | 18:37 |
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| ayoung | 3. X509 | 18:37 |
| ayoung | The benefit of X509 is that we can then use the same infrastructure for all of the security related pieces | 18:38 |
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| ayoung | but it is not too clean | 18:38 |
| ayoung | there is no standard way to do authorization data, short term certificates, etc | 18:38 |
| ayoung | not unsurmountable problems, but worth mentioning | 18:38 |
| ayoung | Kerberos has a few short comings as well | 18:38 |
| dwaite | SAML is closest to that IMHO (short term certificates) | 18:38 |
| ayoung | dwaite, but you can't use SAML to set up SSL connections | 18:39 |
| dwaite | nope | 18:39 |
| ayoung | so it woudl be "in conjunction with" | 18:39 |
| ayoung | kerberos you can't use the service tickets to set up SSL either | 18:39 |
| ayoung | and you need to fetch thme over port 88 | 18:39 |
| ayoung | and there is no firm standard about what should be in the authorization data | 18:40 |
| ayoung | Also, a negotiate call requires 2 round trips | 18:40 |
| * ayoung will explain negotiate later to any that really care | 18:40 | |
| dwaite | kerberos becomes a real pain when you start to cross domain boundaries. thats the driver behind Microsoft supporting federation protocols like SAML | 18:40 |
| ayoung | so typically you end up doing something like Kerbers for initial auth and then a cookie | 18:41 |
| ayoung | since that cookie can also be our tokens | 18:41 |
| dwaite | bearer tokens are hard to get away from :) | 18:41 |
| ayoung | Ithink that the first thing to do is to add a credential to the currrent bearer tokens, or option 1 | 18:41 |
| ayoung | we can make the signing optional to start | 18:41 |
| dolphm | ( aside- we should create a design.openstack.org based on stackexchange to allow voting on competing design solution to problem statements :) ) | 18:42 |
| ayoung | and we'll have to clarify how the user will specify which credential to use | 18:42 |
| ayoung | as well as make sure we do the request signing in an intellegent manner for people that want to use them | 18:42 |
| ayoung | over time, we make signing go from optional to expected and required | 18:42 |
| ayoung | we can only do that if we have a delegation mechanism, hence the push for trusts | 18:43 |
| ayoung | if oauth replaces trusts, no big deal, we still have the mechanism we need | 18:43 |
| ayoung | dwaite, there are a few things about Kerberos that make it worth addressing, though | 18:44 |
| dwaite | def. | 18:44 |
| ayoung | probably the most important is that it is an enterprise must | 18:44 |
| ayoung | so good interop is required | 18:44 |
| ayoung | to what degree that gets integrated into the rest of the stack can remain to be seen | 18:45 |
| dwaite | kerberos in keystone is a must. kerberos in each other service, I could probably argue well against | 18:45 |
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| ayoung | for example, you could put the auth data into the service ticket, and have the web server that nova runs in use negotiate and an analogy to auth_token | 18:46 |
| ayoung | dwaite, there is also some question about securing AMQP | 18:46 |
| ayoung | Kerberos there might actually make more sense than at the HTTPS level | 18:46 |
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| ayoung | We also might want to look at "worst case scenarios" | 18:47 |
| ayoung | the most likely target for an attack seems to be nova-compute, since it is running the virtual machines, ie random code from out there | 18:47 |
| ayoung | if a hypervisor exploit is found, we want to make sure that they don't end up with admin privs in keystone | 18:48 |
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| dwaite | so it would make sense to recommend nova and keystone be physically isolated, and for nova to not have delegation privileges | 18:48 |
| dwaite | also, to make sure that raw credentials are not sent to nova, so that they would never be able to be captured | 18:49 |
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| ayoung | dwaite, nova-computet | 18:49 |
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| ayoung | nova needs it but not the hypervisor, I think | 18:49 |
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| ayoung | however, that might not meet current arch | 18:49 |
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| ayoung | for example, an application running in a VM might need to be able to talk to swift | 18:49 |
| ayoung | that needs to be very limited scope. | 18:50 |
| dwaite | yeah, I suppose constraining the delegation is more appropriate | 18:51 |
| dolphm | i'm going to cut ya'll off so we have a bit of time for summit sessions & open discussion | 18:51 |
| dwaite | kk | 18:51 |
| ayoung | also, when you deploy a VM to a compute node, I assum that the image gets "pushed" from nova-api, but if it actually gets pulled out of glance, the compute node would need a token, and that would be a potential attack | 18:51 |
| dolphm | would love to continue in -dev after :) | 18:51 |
| ayoung | sure | 18:51 |
| dolphm | #topic Design summit sessions | 18:51 |
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| dolphm | would love for people to become familiar with what's been proposed for the summit | 18:52 |
| dolphm | #link http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topic/9 | 18:52 |
| bknudson | dolphm: Forbidden | 18:52 |
| dolphm | hrm | 18:52 |
| dolphm | http://summit.openstack.org/ | 18:52 |
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| dolphm | and then click keystone | 18:52 |
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| topol | I am verbotten as well | 18:53 |
| dolphm | you might have to login through launchpad? | 18:53 |
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| bknudson | http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/9 | 18:53 |
| ayoung | yeah, log in | 18:53 |
| dolphm | if anyone has new sessions to propose -- do so as soon as possible! so far i've avoided approving/denying anything as new ones are still being proposed, but it looks like at least a few will have to be merged or denied, due to time constraints if nothing else | 18:54 |
| ayoung | here are the unreviewed topics | 18:54 |
| ayoung | Scaling/Performance of Keystone for the Enterprise, Supporting KMIP in Key Manager, Keystone LDAP Integration for Enterprises , Domain specific backends, Generic support for external authn/authz, | 18:55 |
| ayoung | SAML, OAuth 2, and SCIM - Overview and Application, Availability zone and region management | 18:55 |
| ayoung | Fine-grained access control, Endpoint Filtering, Service Metadata/Capabilities, Centralized Quotas, | 18:55 |
| ayoung | and an incomplete for Use DNS for initial endpoint information | 18:55 |
| stevemar | ayoung: dolphm: should termie also have a proposal? | 18:57 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I assume we have time for one days worth of topics? | 18:57 |
| topol | we gonna review all these in 4 mins? | 18:57 |
| stevemar | in case it is not the same as dwaite's OAuth | 18:57 |
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| ayoung | topol, we need to consolidate | 18:57 |
| ayoung | dolphm, we have a day, right? | 18:57 |
| dolphm | ayoung: roughly | 18:57 |
| dolphm | topol: no | 18:57 |
| ayoung | Thursday, with 2 topics pre-approved | 18:57 |
| dolphm | topol: just become familiar with them in your free time | 18:58 |
| ayoung | Keymanager and KMIP should be one topic | 18:58 |
| topol | OK | 18:58 |
| dolphm | topol: i'd like to have some initial discussion around them in irc, mailing list, etc before we start rubber stamping stuff | 18:58 |
| dolphm | i'd also like to remind everyone that sessions with a goal of concluding with a yes/no tend to go pretty quickly as there's not usually much to discuss (it always seems to be either a resounding yes or resounding no) -- the most productive sessions are the ones with contending design solutions presented or are intended for open discussion on a specific topic | 18:58 |
| topol | dolphm, makes sense | 18:58 |
| ayoung | Guang, can your two topics be combined? | 18:58 |
| ayoung | Service Metadata/Capabilities and Endpoint Filtering seem like almoste.... | 18:58 |
| dolphm | lectures are also welcome if you're a super expert on something and are open to questions :) | 18:59 |
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| dolphm | but we should always walk away with an action item or two from every session | 18:59 |
| ayoung | topol, does yours tend to tie in with Generic support for external authn/authz | 19:00 |
| dolphm | hrm, we're out of time | 19:00 |
| dolphm | switching to -dev! | 19:00 |
| dolphm | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
| topol | ayoung, possibly. if needed | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 26 19:00:20 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-26-18.00.html | 19:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-26-18.00.txt | 19:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-03-26-18.00.log.html | 19:00 |
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| jeblair | hello ci/infra folks | 19:01 |
| fungi | heya | 19:01 |
| zaro | hi | 19:01 |
| sriramnrn | Hi | 19:01 |
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| pleia2 | o/ | 19:02 |
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| jeblair | #startmeeting infra | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 26 19:02:41 2013 UTC. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:02 |
| jeblair | #action clarkb set up new hpcs account with az1-3 access | 19:03 |
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| jeblair | #topic actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
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| jeblair | fungi: it looks like you started on rename -drivers in gerrit to -milestone, and create -ptl groups and give them tag access | 19:03 |
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| fungi | jeblair: yes | 19:03 |
| fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/3a5sCguY7B | 19:03 |
| fungi | working up a plan there | 19:03 |
| fungi | the rename is the touchy but | 19:03 |
| fungi | er, bit | 19:03 |
| fungi | the -ptl groups should be easier | 19:04 |
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| jeblair | ttx: ^ fyi | 19:04 |
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| fungi | ttx also opened a related bug | 19:04 |
| fungi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1160277 | 19:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160277 in openstack-ci "Groups have similar names in LP and gerrit but are no longer synced" [Undecided,New] | 19:04 |
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| fungi | not much else to add on that at the moment | 19:05 |
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| jeblair | fungi: cool. definitely think the sql query is the way to go there. :) | 19:05 |
| fungi | i think we can maybe announce it for a very short window, or no window | 19:05 |
| fungi | should only impact things like +2/approve and only for a few minutes | 19:05 |
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| fungi | #action fungi finish working on -milestone/-ptl group changes | 19:06 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, i don't think i'd bother scheduling an outage; just maybe announce that the names have changed | 19:06 |
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| fungi | wfm | 19:06 |
| jeblair | fungi: it's possible that if you use the webui there would be no affect (as i believe that it updates the acls simultaneously) | 19:07 |
| fungi | oh, interesting. i'll test that | 19:07 |
| jeblair | fungi: but either way, i think the effect is too small to bother people with. | 19:07 |
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| fungi | agreed | 19:07 |
| jeblair | zaro: ping | 19:08 |
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| zaro | yes | 19:08 |
| zaro | was there a question? | 19:09 |
| jeblair | gearmand; it's running on zuul.o.o now, right? | 19:09 |
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| zaro | actually i haven't checked yet. | 19:10 |
| zaro | fungi, do you know? | 19:10 |
| jeblair | i just logged in an looked; it seems to be running | 19:10 |
| fungi | zaro: it was there when i looked, yes | 19:10 |
| zaro | great! | 19:10 |
| jeblair | zaro: how's your jenkins-dev testing going? | 19:10 |
| jeblair | #topic gearman | 19:10 |
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| zaro | it's going well. haven't found any new bugs | 19:11 |
| zaro | on jenkins-dev anyways. | 19:11 |
| fungi | zaro: you want to link to your test plan etherpad? | 19:11 |
| zaro | only new things to report this week is that jenkins-gearman plugin is now hosted on jenkinsci | 19:11 |
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| zaro | sent brian an email asking about gearman cancel feature but have not gotten a reply. | 19:12 |
| zaro | supposedly he just needs to get it passed CI. | 19:13 |
| zaro | he says feature is complete on his dev branch. | 19:13 |
| zaro | other than those news i've added some tests for the plugin. unit and integration. | 19:14 |
| jeblair | it sounds like that's the only thing we're waiting on before we start hooking it into zuul | 19:14 |
| zaro | fungi: it's not a real test plan. so i won't bother linking to the etherpad. | 19:14 |
| zaro | we can do some prelim testing with it though if you would like to do that. | 19:15 |
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| zaro | just without the cancel feature. | 19:15 |
| zaro | the cancel gearman job feature has nothing to do with the gearman-plugin. | 19:16 |
| zaro | cancel will be done on zuul clients. | 19:16 |
| zaro | hello?? | 19:17 |
| pleia2 | we're still here | 19:17 |
| zaro | sorry, not used to silence during meeting. | 19:18 |
| fungi | we're a quiet bunch | 19:18 |
| jeblair | and we're waiting on krow, so there's not much more to say | 19:18 |
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| zaro | what do you think about hooking up to prod jenkins for testing? | 19:19 |
| jeblair | after the release | 19:19 |
| zaro | ok, when is that again. | 19:19 |
| fungi | we're in a bit of a self-imposed slushy-freeze rsn, i assume | 19:19 |
| jeblair | zaro: april 4 | 19:20 |
| zaro | cool. | 19:20 |
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| jeblair | zaro: though i don't think we'll do much testing in production | 19:21 |
| jeblair | zaro: at most, we'll install the plugin and make sure it doesn't have any adverse effects; i think the first time it's going to get used on the production server is when zuul starts sending it jobs | 19:21 |
| jeblair | zaro: we'll test zuul development against jenkins-dev. | 19:22 |
| zaro | sounds good. | 19:22 |
| jeblair | #topic pypi mirror/requirements | 19:23 |
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| jeblair | we just merged a change that will switch all the slaves to using our mirror exclusively | 19:23 |
| jeblair | and i have a change in progress to move building that mirror to two jenkins slaves (for 26 and 27) which will then put the mirror on static.o.o | 19:24 |
| jeblair | after that, i think we'll swing back around and set up some gating jobs for the requirements repo | 19:24 |
| jeblair | any questions about that? | 19:25 |
| fungi | is the plan to remove things from the openstack-specific mirror over time as they no longer fall within the requirements allowances? | 19:25 |
| jeblair | fungi: that's not in the short-term plan. we should definitely talk about that at the summit | 19:26 |
| fungi | or is just making sure that the requirements for a given project fall within the global requirements for the release they're on sufficient? | 19:27 |
| fungi | yeah, worth a discussion | 19:27 |
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| jeblair | #topic baremetal testing | 19:28 |
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| pleia2 | so, I had a good chat with devananda about this yesterday | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | the first step we need to do here is get diskimage-builder into our testing infrastructure | 19:29 |
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| pleia2 | turns out SpamapS has done some work on this, adding tox.ini and making some other changes: https://github.com/stackforge/diskimage-builder/ | 19:29 |
| pleia2 | which should mostly satisfy the "check python stuff" requirement | 19:30 |
| pleia2 | there's also testing 1) whether it can create an image of a specific type (image exists, exit status 0) and 2) that it boots | 19:30 |
| pleia2 | this is were I'll need help, I haven't yet written a jenkins job and I'm not sure how our infrastructure will strictly support this | 19:31 |
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| jeblair | pleia2: is anyone helping you on that? | 19:32 |
| * ttx waves | 19:32 | |
| pleia2 | no | 19:32 |
| zaro | what do you mean by writing jenkins job? | 19:33 |
| pleia2 | zaro: well, the test | 19:33 |
| pleia2 | I assume jenkins would be the one to build these images | 19:34 |
| jeblair | pleia2: can you be more specific about what you're concerned about? jenkins can run shell scripts. what other infrastructure is needed? | 19:34 |
| zaro | ohh. you mean creat a job in jenkins to test something? | 19:34 |
| zaro | if so i can help there | 19:34 |
| pleia2 | jeblair: creating the image shouldn't be a problem, but then it needs to launch these VMs and do further tests - so it needs a VM that runs the test, then it creates another VM and launches it | 19:35 |
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| jeblair | pleia2: the devstack-gate management jobs launch vms, so you might use that as a model | 19:36 |
| pleia2 | ok, I'll take a look there | 19:36 |
| jeblair | pleia2: and in fact, the image-update job launches a vm, configures it, creates an image, and then deletes the vm. | 19:37 |
| jeblair | pleia2: is there an overall plan written down somewhere? | 19:37 |
| pleia2 | only vaguely in the bug report | 19:38 |
| pleia2 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1082795 | 19:38 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1082795 in openstack-ci "Add baremetal testing" [High,Triaged] | 19:38 |
| jeblair | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1082795 | 19:38 |
| jeblair | pleia2: the thing i don't understand is how we use an image from dib. | 19:39 |
| jeblair | pleia2: we can't boot machines from a glance server in our public clouds, so i think we'd have to do the thing where we boot a public image and then sync that to the image from dib | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | mordred's idea was to stash it in glance and then when devstack-gate is run it runs a different script which pulls that image from glance instead of doing its image-update thing | 19:40 |
| jeblair | (i forget what robert calls that) | 19:40 |
| pleia2 | ah | 19:40 |
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| jeblair | honestly, that sounds slow to me, but i haven't seen it in action. :) | 19:41 |
| pleia2 | well, I think this will only be important for the "baremetal" one, since demo is run tripleo style | 19:41 |
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| pleia2 | (demo is another image we'll test building with dib) | 19:42 |
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| jeblair | pleia2: i'm happy to help with overcoming technical obstacles, but you may have to go to mordred if you find you're missing an architectural piece. | 19:43 |
| pleia2 | jeblair: ok, thanks | 19:43 |
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| pleia2 | I'll poke around jenkins and see if I can get some drafts for these tests in place too, seeing as I have no familiarity with it yet :) | 19:44 |
| jeblair | pleia2: you'll want to read up on jenkins-job-builder | 19:44 |
| pleia2 | right | 19:44 |
| jeblair | #link http://ci.openstack.org/jenkins-job-builder/ | 19:44 |
| jeblair | #topic releasing git-review | 19:44 |
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| jeblair | fungi: ? | 19:44 |
| fungi | mordred wanted to wait for his rebase configuration patch | 19:45 |
| fungi | he and saper are still hashing out that pair of intertwined patches, it seems | 19:45 |
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| fungi | there was more work done on them over the weekend | 19:45 |
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| fungi | i'm strongly inclined to let those wait for the next release and go ahead and tag one in the interim | 19:46 |
| jeblair | on a related note, this has just reminded me to tag zuul 1.2.0. | 19:47 |
| jeblair | #topic open discussion | 19:47 |
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| jeblair | anyone have anything else they would like to chat about? | 19:48 |
| ttx | bug 1157618 | 19:48 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157618 in openstack-ci "swift-tarball job produces incorrectly-versioned tarballs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157618 | 19:48 |
| ttx | i discussed it with mordred | 19:48 |
| ttx | We'll work around it manually for the remaining swift rcs | 19:48 |
| jeblair | i believe he promised all projects would have the new versioning code by the release. :( | 19:48 |
| ttx | fungi: so i'll use your rename powers | 19:48 |
| fungi | ttx: i'll be happy to lend them | 19:48 |
| fungi | my rename powers consist of 'ssh tarballs.o.o sudo mv foo bar' | 19:49 |
| ttx | that's all I need :) | 19:50 |
| ttx | bug 1160269 is probably completed | 19:50 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160269 in openstack-ci "stable/essex is maintained by ~openstack-essex-maint" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1160269 | 19:50 |
| fungi | ttx: did you respond to my question for clarification there? | 19:50 |
| ttx | fungi: yes | 19:50 |
| fungi | okay, cool. lp e-mail is sometimes sloooow | 19:50 |
| fungi | okay, awesome. marking released | 19:51 |
| ttx | that's all I had | 19:51 |
| jeblair | ttx: is diablo dead yet? | 19:51 |
| ttx | jeblair: for some definition of dead, yes | 19:51 |
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| ttx | jeblair: our position was that it's alive as long as someone cares about it | 19:52 |
| ttx | jeblair: i.e. as long as openstack-diablo-maint is staffed | 19:52 |
| ttx | but i think in practice it's pretty dead now | 19:52 |
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| jeblair | okay, we should think about removing it from infrastructure soon... maybe a summit chat. :) | 19:53 |
| ttx | we do security for essex and folsom | 19:53 |
| ttx | tehre is a session on stable branches at the summit | 19:53 |
| jeblair | cool, it can wait till then i think. | 19:53 |
| jeblair | it won't be much deader by then. | 19:54 |
| fungi | just as a heads up, i'm going to be continuing this as an employee of the openstack foundation after next week... so don't try to e-mail me at my hp.com address (not that i ever checked it regularly anyway) | 19:54 |
| jeblair | fungi: congratulations! | 19:54 |
| fungi | thanks jeblair | 19:55 |
| pleia2 | congrats fungi! | 19:55 |
| zaro | fungi: congrats! | 19:55 |
| fungi | i appreciate your support | 19:55 |
| zaro | fungi: i never even know you had an hp email. | 19:56 |
| jeblair | on that note: thanks everyone! | 19:56 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 19:56 |
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| fungi | zaro: i barely remembered i had one | 19:56 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 26 19:56:41 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-26-19.02.html | 19:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-26-19.02.txt | 19:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-03-26-19.02.log.html | 19:56 |
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| ttx | No TC meeting this week, next TC meeting next week. | 19:57 |
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| ttx | Release meeting in 63 min | 19:57 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: have outgoing PTLs been officially replaced on the TC? | 20:51 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: not really yet. they start next week | 20:51 |
| ttx | (the new PTLs) | 20:51 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: ok, so markwash is officially a TC member next tuesday | 20:51 |
| ttx | yes. | 20:52 |
| ttx | one less meeting ;) | 20:52 |
| ttx | which makes me thing, I need to get them on the ML | 20:52 |
| ttx | think* | 20:52 |
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| ttx | markmc, heckj/dolphm, notmyname, bcwaldon/markwash, jgriffith, vishy/russellb, gabrielhurley, danwent/markmcclain: around ? | 21:00 |
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| markmcclain | o/ | 21:00 |
| dolphm | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | here | 21:00 |
| ttx | can't wait until that transition is over. | 21:00 |
| markmc | hey | 21:00 |
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| russellb | hi | 21:00 |
| gabrielhurley | yo | 21:00 |
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| markwash | o/ | 21:00 |
| * markwash standing in for bcwaldon again | 21:01 | |
| ttx | only missing cinder, let's start | 21:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 26 21:01:24 2013 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:01 |
| ttx | markmc: better get used to it :) | 21:01 |
| ttx | arrrh | 21:01 |
| markmc | heh | 21:01 |
| ttx | markwash: better get used to it :) | 21:01 |
| ttx | this invasion of the marks is going to be a disaster i tell you | 21:01 |
| ttx | Usual agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | #topic General announcements | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General announcements (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:02 | |
| ttx | #info TC direct seats voting under way, don't forget to vote, voting ends Thursday | 21:02 |
| ttx | #info Last week to suggest sessions for the Havana Design Summit in Portland | 21:02 |
| ttx | #link http://summit.openstack.org/ | 21:02 |
| ttx | markmc, jeblair/mordred, annegentle, sdague/davidkranz/jaypipes: Anything from Stable/CI/QA/Docs teams ? | 21:02 |
| markmc | #info 2012.2.4 RC due next week: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-stable-maint/2013-March/000353.html | 21:03 |
| ttx | aw. Can't I sleep all next week ? | 21:03 |
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| markmc | hehe | 21:03 |
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| ttx | markmc: isn't that the week after next ? | 21:03 |
| jeblair | ttx: the pypi mirror -- | 21:03 |
| ttx | "2012.2.4 is due for release on 2013-04-11" | 21:03 |
| sdague | ttx: I don't think anything from QA | 21:03 |
| markmc | ttx, I said RC next week :) | 21:03 |
| ttx | ah. eh | 21:04 |
| davidkranz | ttx: We need to coordinate the process/qa tracks for overlap. | 21:04 |
| jeblair | ttx: we're using our local pypi mirror exclusively for tests now, and it's generated from the requirements repo. | 21:04 |
| davidkranz | ttx: You can schedule first and I'll work around it. | 21:04 |
| ttx | davidkranz: no kidding. Lots of overlap. I'll try to make a pass with mordred and then we can discuss | 21:04 |
| markmc | jeblair, w00t! | 21:04 |
| ttx | davidkranz: will be in touch | 21:04 |
| davidkranz | ttx: Sound good. | 21:04 |
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| ttx | jeblair: awesome news | 21:05 |
| ttx | anything more before we switch to per-project updates ? | 21:06 |
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| annegentle | Definitely need more doc patches, though the queue has been steady for reviews. | 21:06 |
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| ttx | annegentle: less activity on the RC bug front, I hope that will translate into docs/releasenotes efforts now | 21:06 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo status | 21:07 |
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| ttx | Not so much movement around here, which is good... | 21:07 |
| ttx | markmc: Anything in oslo-incubator stable/grizzly that should definitely be copied to projects ? | 21:07 |
| markmc | yeah, all quiet | 21:07 |
| markmc | just triaging a couple of bugs here, but nothing major | 21:07 |
| jgriffith | o/ | 21:07 |
| ttx | Looking at the Design summit, you have 13 proposals for 12 slots, not too bad | 21:08 |
| ttx | I may suggest moving the session on Db migrations to oslo though | 21:08 |
| ttx | (from process) | 21:08 |
| ttx | we'll adjust | 21:08 |
| markmc | this is the main stable/grizzly issue in oslo atm: https://code.launchpad.net/bugs/1158179 | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1158179 in nova/folsom "Lockutils - deletes directory rendering locks invalid" [High,Confirmed] | 21:08 |
| ttx | Process/QA/Oslo is all a bit overlapping | 21:09 |
| ttx | markmc: that one was adopted by most projects, I think | 21:09 |
| markmc | I don't think there's much oslo atm that could move to process/qa | 21:09 |
| markmc | pretty confident we'll have roughly the right number of talks for slots | 21:09 |
| ttx | ok | 21:09 |
| markmc | unless there's a deluge of latecomers | 21:09 |
| ttx | Anything else on the oslo topic ? | 21:09 |
| markmc | will merge some of the rpc one's together | 21:09 |
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| markmc | nope, that's it ... thanks | 21:09 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:10 |
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| ttx | heckj/dolphm: o/ | 21:10 |
| dolphm | o/ | 21:10 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-rc2 | 21:10 |
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| ttx | Bug 1160504 was recently added | 21:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160504 in keystone "Grizzly v2 catalog has slight formatting changes compared to Folsom" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1160504 | 21:10 |
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| ttx | dolphm: When was this format actually changed ? | 21:10 |
| dolphm | yes, it was changed to match spec -- considering reversing that patch now | 21:10 |
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| dolphm | and simply filing the discrepancy away as won't fix | 21:11 |
| ttx | yeah, if it's lived for 6 months it's probably safer | 21:11 |
| ttx | when was this format "fixed" ? any idea ? | 21:11 |
| dolphm | longer -- it's probably been an issue in v2.0 since essex | 21:11 |
| dolphm | recently, but i'm still digging through git log / git blame for the commit | 21:11 |
| ttx | ok | 21:11 |
| ttx | Didn't see anything else with a good benefit/risk ratio on the grizzly-rc-potential list | 21:11 |
| dolphm | agree | 21:12 |
| ttx | so I guess when that issue is solved we should be in good shape | 21:12 |
| dolphm | we're not aware of anything else at this point | 21:12 |
| ttx | RC2 should be ready sometimes tomorrow ? | 21:12 |
| dolphm | +1 | 21:12 |
| ttx | Looking at the summit, you have 14 proposals for 9 slots, which sounds a bit overcrowded | 21:12 |
| ttx | Did you look into it yet ? Is there enough duplication for everything to fit ? | 21:12 |
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| dolphm | yeah, we're talking through merging sessions now, and maybe moving one or two to lightning talks which might be a better format | 21:13 |
| ttx | OK | 21:13 |
| ttx | Anything more about Keystone ? | 21:13 |
| dolphm | don't think so! | 21:13 |
| ttx | dolphm: thx! | 21:13 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:13 |
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| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:13 |
| notmyname | hi | 21:13 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.8.0-rc2 | 21:14 |
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| ttx | So what are the bugfixes you'd like to backport before final release ? | 21:14 |
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| ttx | Still being discussed ? | 21:14 |
| notmyname | I'm getting a list together. I'd like to talk to you more about that after the meeting | 21:15 |
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| ttx | notmyname: sure | 21:15 |
| ttx | Looking at the summit, you have 13 proposals for 8 slots | 21:15 |
| ttx | Do you think you can make it all fit ? | 21:15 |
| notmyname | fun :-) | 21:15 |
| ttx | Hmm, maybe you can borrow "some" space from Horizon | 21:15 |
| notmyname | 13? I think it may be 15 | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | there are some duplicates, but we don't have space for e verything right now | 21:16 |
| ttx | notmyname: indeed! | 21:16 |
| ttx | ok, we'll see if you could get two extra slots from Horizon's allocation | 21:16 |
| ttx | later in the meeting | 21:16 |
| ttx | In related news, https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Grizzly#OpenStack_Object_Storage_.28Swift.29 needs some love :) | 21:17 |
| ttx | Anything more on Swift ? | 21:17 |
| notmyname | I'll update that before the relase | 21:17 |
| notmyname | thanks | 21:17 |
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| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:17 |
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| markwash | hey hey hey | 21:17 |
| ttx | markwash: o/ | 21:18 |
| ttx | #info Glance RC1 is still on track | 21:18 |
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| ttx | will it survive? | 21:18 |
| markwash | I think so | 21:18 |
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| ttx | On the grizzly-rc-potential list, nothing really justifying a respin yet | 21:18 |
| ttx | markwash: that would be a first ;) | 21:18 |
| markwash | so, that being said, I actually do like all the "high" priority rc-potential items | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: you're being SUCH a jerk today! | 21:19 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: not at all! That would be the first time a RC1 goes all the way to release. | 21:19 |
| ttx | Nothing derogatory to Glance :) | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | so we don't have anything that should block the release | 21:19 |
| markwash | right | 21:19 |
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| ttx | markwash: we could do a quick RC2 with all the High stuff backported, if you feel confident | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | so it depends on how hardcore you want to be about release blockers being required to respin | 21:20 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: At this point, not so hardcore. But as time passes by, I get more hardcore | 21:20 |
| ttx | which is why doing it now might be a good idea | 21:20 |
| markwash | ttx: should we revisit it next week, see if any of those are "fix committed" ? | 21:20 |
| ttx | while it's still possible | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | I don't want to scramble to fix a bunch of bugs knowing rc2 is a potential | 21:20 |
| ttx | markwash: I'd rather not touch anything next week. | 21:21 |
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| bcwaldon | so I only want to consider bugs fixed in master | 21:21 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: agreed | 21:21 |
| markwash | understood | 21:21 |
| bcwaldon | ok - so let's keep marking things as rc-potential and revisit this next week | 21:21 |
| markwash | you guys are the pros, I think we can live without any of those fixes | 21:21 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: hmm | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | ok - that's enough rabble from the glance crew | 21:22 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: next week i'd like to minimize disturbance to the force, which means only accepting critical issues | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | ok | 21:22 |
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| markwash | ttx: if I ping you later this week, could we land a few in an rc2? | 21:23 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: so it might actually be a good idea to push the fixes for the "nice to have but not critical" in a RC2... like before THursday | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | ok | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | we can queue it up, even if we don't release it | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | what branch should we propose fixes to? | 21:23 |
| markwash | before == during? :-D | 21:23 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: i can open a RC2 window, then you just propose to milestone-proposed | 21:23 |
| ttx | i'll approve anything that's fixed in master and targetd to RC2 | 21:24 |
| bcwaldon | ok | 21:24 |
| ttx | #action ttx to open glance rc2 window | 21:24 |
| ttx | for the last rounbd of "nice to have" fixes | 21:24 |
| ttx | Looking at the summit, you have 2 proposals for 5 slots | 21:25 |
| ttx | how many do you think you'll end up needing ? We could give one extra slot to Cinder or Ceilometer | 21:25 |
| markwash | I also have some private input that I will be redirecting to the summit site | 21:25 |
| markwash | and I need to propose something myself :-/ | 21:25 |
| ttx | oh, ok | 21:25 |
| ttx | please do :) | 21:25 |
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| ttx | You should also plan to spend some time improving https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Grizzly#OpenStack_Image_Service_.28Glance.29 | 21:25 |
| markwash | I think we should keep all 5 for now. . its not like 5 is being greedy | 21:25 |
| ttx | not really, agreed | 21:26 |
| ttx | Anything more on Glance ? | 21:26 |
| markwash | yes | 21:26 |
| markwash | I'd like to have a weekly glance core meeting | 21:26 |
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| markwash | for blueprint triage, etc | 21:26 |
| ttx | markwash: ok, pick an hour and edit the Meetings wikipage | 21:26 |
| markwash | #action markwash to schedule glance weekly meetings | 21:27 |
| ttx | markwash: anything else ? | 21:27 |
| markwash | that's it | 21:27 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:27 |
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| ttx | marwash: thx! | 21:27 |
| ttx | arh | 21:27 |
| ttx | danwent/markmcclain: hi! | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | hi | 21:28 |
| ttx | #info Quantum RC2 was published early this morning | 21:28 |
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| ttx | Only bug 1160431 was suggested as grizzly-rc-potential bugs so far | 21:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160431 in quantum "router.interface.{create|delete} notifications do not include the router or tenant IDs" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1160431 | 21:28 |
| ttx | so at this point this looks like a winner | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. we are looking into other issue reported today | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | but there's not a bug for it yet | 21:29 |
| ttx | ok, well we'll see | 21:29 |
| ttx | Looking at the summit, you have 17 proposals for 22 slots | 21:29 |
| ttx | How advanced are you for that ? Expecting more stuff being submitted ? | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. I expect several more to be filed… we've been emphasizing release docs over proposals | 21:30 |
| ttx | ok, so you'll definitely have use for your 22 slots ? | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. some of the topics will be too big to fit into a single slot | 21:30 |
| ttx | ok | 21:30 |
| ttx | Don't forget to edit https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Grizzly#OpenStack_Network_Service_.28Quantum.29 at some point | 21:30 |
| ttx | Anything else on Quantum ? | 21:31 |
| markmcclain | that's it | 21:31 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder status | 21:31 |
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| jgriffith | Hey there | 21:31 |
| ttx | jgriffith: hi! | 21:31 |
| ttx | The RC2 rstlibectomy was incomplete so we need to respin | 21:31 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/grizzly-rc3 | 21:31 |
| ttx | Anything else from the grizzly-rc-potential buglist you'd like to include before we tag ? | 21:32 |
| jgriffith | yes, quick before something else comes up :) | 21:32 |
| jgriffith | I think we're in good shape as of right now | 21:32 |
| jgriffith | The additional items don't warrant it IMO | 21:32 |
| ttx | want me to tag after meeting ? Or tomorrow morning if nothing was targeted to it yet ? | 21:32 |
| jgriffith | I'm fine either way | 21:32 |
| jgriffith | It's been very quiet in Cinder channel today | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | My testing seems pretty good so far | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | I don't anticipate anything that's critical | 21:33 |
| ttx | Will tag tomorrow morning if it's still clean (everythign targeted beingcompleted) | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | works for me | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | Hopefully I won't regret my optimism | 21:33 |
| ttx | #action ttx to tag cinder rc3 tomorrow morning if still ok | 21:33 |
| ttx | Looking at the summit, you have 16 proposals for 11 slots | 21:34 |
| ttx | pretty busy | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | I'll be combining a few | 21:34 |
| ttx | hopefully there is enough duplication, yeah | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | shouldn't have a problem fittin gthem | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | fitting them | 21:34 |
| ttx | Cool. Anything more in Cinder ? | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | Don't think so | 21:34 |
| ttx | jgriffith: thx! | 21:34 |
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| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:34 |
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| ttx | vishy/russellb: o/ | 21:34 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-rc2 | 21:35 |
| russellb | hi there. | 21:35 |
| vishy | hi | 21:35 |
| ttx | 2 fixes left to backport... | 21:35 |
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| ttx | dansmith suggested bug 1160489 -- I'm not sure the benefit/risk trade-off is worth it | 21:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160489 in nova "periodically seeing KeyError: 'old_instance_type_memory_mb' in compute.log" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1160489 | 21:35 |
| russellb | I just proposed those 2 | 21:35 |
| ttx | This patch is screaming "danger" all over, and it looks like a corner case... | 21:35 |
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| ttx | vishy/russellb: thoughts ? | 21:35 |
| * russellb is looking at it | 21:36 | |
| ttx | just approved your two backports | 21:37 |
| russellb | thanks | 21:37 |
| russellb | guess we can take it as an action to review this | 21:37 |
| ttx | we can discuss 1160489 off-meeting yes | 21:37 |
| ttx | 7 bugs on the grizzly-rc-potential list, nothing jumping as particularly critical | 21:37 |
| vishy | also considering https://review.openstack.org/#/c/24863/ | 21:37 |
| vishy | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25072/ | 21:37 |
| ttx | yeah, been wondering how sfae that was (24863) | 21:38 |
| vishy | i guess i could add those to rc-potential | 21:38 |
| ttx | safe* | 21:38 |
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| russellb | vishy: seems fine to me ... the performance difference was pretty sad | 21:38 |
| ttx | vishy: both look reasonable to me, feel free to target | 21:38 |
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| russellb | and 25072 is pretty low risk | 21:38 |
| ttx | yeah, you should squeeze those before I start being overly conservative | 21:39 |
| ttx | as long as we do that RC2 before Thursday those should be fine | 21:40 |
| vishy | targetted | 21:40 |
| ttx | I think zul proposed some of those | 21:40 |
| ttx | (backports) | 21:40 |
| ttx | vishy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25399/ | 21:41 |
| ttx | Looking at the summit, you have 43 proposals for 31 slots | 21:41 |
| ttx | Hopefully enough duplication in proposals to allow merging... | 21:41 |
| russellb | yeah ... | 21:41 |
| ttx | since we can't make the Nova space larger than 4 days. | 21:41 |
| russellb | i've pushed some off to the unconference track | 21:41 |
| russellb | there's opportunity for combining and merging stuff, too | 21:42 |
| russellb | especially in the scheduler area | 21:42 |
| ttx | ok | 21:42 |
| russellb | will have no problem filling the 4 days, that's for sure. | 21:42 |
| ttx | Any other question on Nova ? | 21:42 |
| russellb | last resort, saying no to stuff that seems non-controversial enough to just be a -dev thread | 21:42 |
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| ttx | russellb: or you can have a catch-all session where you merge 5 non-controversial ones | 21:43 |
| russellb | yeah, that's not a bad idea | 21:43 |
| ttx | giving each their ( minutes of fame | 21:43 |
| ttx | 5* | 21:43 |
| russellb | i'll keep that in mind, thanks | 21:43 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:43 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: hey | 21:43 |
| gabrielhurley | hi | 21:44 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-rc2 | 21:44 |
| gabrielhurley | I blame nova | 21:44 |
| russellb | :-p | 21:44 |
| ttx | always a safe bet | 21:44 |
| gabrielhurley | introducing a new quota at the last moment | 21:44 |
| * gabrielhurley shakes his fist | 21:44 | |
| russellb | gabrielhurley: just published a new novaclient release | 21:44 |
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| gabrielhurley | but it was a chance to fix a couple I'd had my eye on | 21:44 |
| gabrielhurley | russellb: thanks. was gonna ask. | 21:44 |
| russellb | yep - 2.12.0 | 21:44 |
| gabrielhurley | awesome | 21:44 |
| russellb | has the new quota support | 21:44 |
| gabrielhurley | yep. we'll fix that asap | 21:45 |
| ttx | So... 4 bugs on list, still needing master fixes | 21:45 |
| gabrielhurley | anyhow, RC2 is still quite small, and I don't expect it to grow, particular.ly | 21:45 |
| markmcclain | gabrielhurley: might want to look at this one for RC2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1160580 | 21:45 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: ETA for RC2 completion ? | 21:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160580 in quantum "Allow extensions already implemented in Quantum in Brocade plugin" [Undecided,New] | 21:45 |
| ttx | would be good to lock it down by Thursday | 21:45 |
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| gabrielhurley | markmcclain: way to pull out a brand new bug. I'll read it in more detail, but yeah, it might make the cut | 21:46 |
| gabrielhurley | ttx: end of week | 21:46 |
| gabrielhurley | thursday should be fine | 21:46 |
| ttx | ok | 21:46 |
| ttx | Looking at the summit, you have 2 proposals for 7 slots | 21:46 |
| markmcclain | gabrielhurley: sorry just got it this afternoon | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | refresh ;-) | 21:47 |
| ttx | 5/7 | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | it's 5/7 now. I proposed some of the ones the other projects said they wanted but hadn't opened yet | 21:47 |
| ttx | For the curious, secret URL at http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/topicstatus | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | I'd like to hold off on giving up the last two slots until anyone else who wants to propose topics has had the chance | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm gonna remind again at the hroizon meeting after this | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | it sounded like folks wanted to last week, but I didn't see any come in | 21:48 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: OK. notmyname could use one or two more, if you don't need them | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll keep that in mind | 21:48 |
| ttx | Sometimes this week you should start improving https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Grizzly#OpenStack_Dashboard_.28Horizon.29 | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | ah yes. I always publish them to horizon's docs and forget to add them to the wiki | 21:49 |
| ttx | Anything more on Horizon ? | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/releases/2013_1.html | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | nope, that's everything. | 21:49 |
| ttx | #info Horizon RC2 ready by Thursday/Friday | 21:49 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated-in-Grizzly/Integrated-in-Havana projects | 21:50 |
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| ttx | #info Heat has its RC1 published | 21:50 |
| ttx | #info Ceilometer had its RC1 publiched earlier today | 21:50 |
| jd__ | \o/ | 21:50 |
| ttx | published, even | 21:50 |
| sdake | we had a recent suggestion for backports - hasn't been approved yet | 21:50 |
| ttx | sdake: ping me if you want to respin | 21:50 |
| sdake | will do | 21:50 |
| ttx | I'll open the RC2 page for you | 21:51 |
| sdake | thanks | 21:51 |
| ttx | (if you ask) | 21:51 |
| sdake | i can handle it unless you prefer ;) | 21:51 |
| ttx | sdake: there is a small trick. You need to enter the right "short name" becasue it's used by some scripts :) | 21:51 |
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| ttx | but yeah, you can do it if I'm not available | 21:52 |
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| ttx | jd__, sdake: anything else ? | 21:52 |
| sdake | no | 21:52 |
| jd__ | nop | 21:53 |
| ttx | ok then | 21:53 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 26 21:53:15 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-26-21.01.html | 21:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-26-21.01.txt | 21:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-03-26-21.01.log.html | 21:53 |
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| gabrielhurley | #startmeeting horizon | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Mar 26 22:01:50 2013 UTC. The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 22:01 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic general updates | 22:02 |
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| gabrielhurley | So, we've got an RC2 on our hands | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | that's okay | 22:02 |
| mrunge | hooray! | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | thankfully most of the fixes are already in progress | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | this new bug that came up during the previous meeting is confusing the heck out of me though... I'll talk about that in a minute | 22:02 |
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| gabrielhurley | anyhow, the goal is to get RC2 back down to zero by EOD Thursday | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | so keep an eye on the reviews | 22:03 |
| jpich | Should RC2 bug be submitted to master first or to the milestones proposed branch directly? | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | I was just typing that :-) | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | yes | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | to master first | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | then backport to the milestone-proposed branch | 22:04 |
| jpich | Ok :) | 22:04 |
| jpich | after it's approved on master? | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | ideally | 22:04 |
| jpich | Cool | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | the one to proposed should at least not be merged until the one to master is | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | but if you don't mind re-spinning both PRs if something needs changing you can propose both at the same time | 22:05 |
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| gabrielhurley | anyhow, otherwise things are generally stable, and the only other topic of note is that anyone who wants to propose summit topics needs to do so this week | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | summit.openstack.org | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic bugs and blueprints | 22:07 |
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| gabrielhurley | so, I'm a bit lost on https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1160580 | 22:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1160580 in quantum "Allow extensions already implemented in Quantum in Brocade plugin" [Undecided,New] | 22:07 |
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| gabrielhurley | I'm gonna follow up with the quantum folks, but I *think* we need another setting to control for this quantum plugin's differences. | 22:07 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm just not sure what those differences actually are yet. | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | reading the ticket leads me to believe it's a floating IP issue, but an email thread on the topic sounded more like a router issue. | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm not sure. | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | However, if the change is invasive I'm actually not gonna take it for RC2, just FYI. | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | I'd rather release note that a specific quantum plugin is not compatible than risk breaking everything. | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | anybody else got bugs they're concerned about or think might deserve to be fixed in RC2? | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll take the silence as no. feel free to raise them in the next section if needed. | 22:10 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic open discussion | 22:11 |
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| gabrielhurley | This is mostly a quiet week, so I don't have a lot that needs discussing | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm open to talking about bugs, or about Havana stuff | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | or summit ideas | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | whatever y'all have on your minds | 22:11 |
| cody-somerville | I've proposed http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/196 - discussion for folks who build/extend Horizon. | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | I approved that one as soon as I saw it. I usually am the one to open that session, and it's always useful, so I'm happy to see someone else beat me to it. :-) | 22:13 |
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| david-lyle | I'm curious there is a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/global-ajax-communication is there any concrete plan to get there, or would this be a good discussion topic? | 22:14 |
| cody-somerville | I'm helping some internal folks at HP who have been modifying an old version of Horizon for their purposes get on top of the latest and greatest. They're definitely testing the limits of Horizon. I believe one or two of these folks will be at said session so I think it'll be a good opportunity to get food feedback. | 22:14 |
| cody-somerville | *good | 22:14 |
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| gabrielhurley | cody-somerville: awesome. I've done a lot of hacking on horizon outside of the "OpenStack Dashboard" context and that's lead to some useful things that landed in master, so I'm always interested in seeing where other people find pain points. | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | david-lyle: yes and no, lemme explain | 22:15 |
| cody-somerville | There is both the case of using Horizon outside of OpenStack dashboard and also highly customizing the OpenStack Dashboard. | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | That particular blueprint is sort of a placeholder. It was proposed a while back and quickly got drowned in overscoping. | 22:16 |
| gabrielhurley | there was a desire to make it a blueprint about all of ajax and real-time everything, and it died on the vine. | 22:16 |
| gabrielhurley | However, I opened this session topic: http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/edit/210 | 22:16 |
| gabrielhurley | which aims to look at "now that we're a lot farther down the road, can we actually make real-time data-driven interactions happen in Horizon?" | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | so I think that blueprint would fit in as an aspect of that session | 22:17 |
| david-lyle | gabrielhurley: I get forbidden with that link | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | cody-somerville: both are true and valid, absolutely. | 22:17 |
| david-lyle | nevermind found | 22:17 |
| david-lyle | it | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | david-lyle: let's try http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/210 | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | ah, I see you got it | 22:17 |
| david-lyle | ok, that sounds good | 22:18 |
| cody-somerville | gabrielhurley: Sorry, I meant specifically that there is a group at HP that *is* using Horizon in both capacities. | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah, I figured | 22:19 |
| david-lyle | the other big item I don't see is Keystone v3 | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | hmmm... a session strictly on that would be good, actually. | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | I'd like to discuss both v3 API and multi-region/multi-endpoint stuff. | 22:19 |
| david-lyle | yes | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | david-lyle: you wanna propose that session? | 22:19 |
| david-lyle | sure | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | (it looks bad when I propose everything) | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | ;-) | 22:19 |
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| gabrielhurley | good idea on that | 22:20 |
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| gabrielhurley | I feel like Horizon should just have X slots at the summit where X is the number of "integrated" projects, and each project gets a slot. lol. | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | "How can we better serve your project?" | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | :-P | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | okay. anybody else have thoughts? | 22:22 |
| cody-somerville | One thing that has struck me is that the OpenStack Dashboard in some ways is almost like an example implementation of Horizon. I think it would be useful for this to be reframed. I believe openstack_dashboard should be implemented in such a way that it is highly reusable so that one can do highly customized *openstack* dashboards, not just extended openstack dashboards. | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | cody-somerville: hmmmm... I see your point | 22:22 |
| gabrielhurley | both are very valuable | 22:22 |
| jpich | I wonder if a session on testing would be useful. The unit tests can be quite complex for new contributors to get their head around, and from another angle we could also use improvements on the selenium front | 22:22 |
| vkmc_ | +1 | 22:23 |
| mrunge | +1 | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | jpich: I'd be willing to lead or co-lead that if you want to propose it. I'm nt sure how well attended it'd be, but it's absolutely useful. | 22:23 |
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| cody-somerville | Would it be a tutorial or working session to improve Horizon tests? or hybrid of both? | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | cody-somerville: I think that topic could be rolled into the BoF session you listed, most likely. Do you think it deserves more? | 22:23 |
| jpich | Cool, I'll propose it and would welcome all help on leading/directing it | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | cody-somerville: was thinking tutorial for at least a good portion of it | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | kind of a "tips and tricks" | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | 'cuz I know every kind of error it can throw | 22:24 |
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| jpich | Sounds like I'd like to attend it too then ;) | 22:24 |
| cody-somerville | gabrielhurley: Aye. Sounds good to both. | 22:25 |
| gabrielhurley | cool | 22:25 |
| jpich | Another question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1157950 -- this says nova added support for fixed_ips quotas in master, folsom, and essex. Does that mean we should aim to backport the Horizon patch on folsom and essex as well? | 22:25 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157950 in horizon "Add support for nova's new Fixed IP quota" [High,In progress] | 22:25 |
| gabrielhurley | jpich: Folsom definitely... I'm not clear on supporting essex currently. | 22:26 |
| gabrielhurley | I have no idea how much pain would be involved in backporting that fix to essex | 22:26 |
| gabrielhurley | if it's trivial it might be worth investigating | 22:26 |
| jpich | I wonder if increasing the Folsom novaclient required version could cause trouble for distros? | 22:27 |
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| gabrielhurley | honestly I'm surprised the fix got ported all the way back to essex in nova | 22:27 |
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| jpich | I guess I'll have a look then. I'm not familiar at all with Essex | 22:27 |
| gabrielhurley | jpich: it's a valid question. I'd take it to the mailing list | 22:27 |
| jpich | Ok! | 22:27 |
| gabrielhurley | thankfully the backports don't have a hard deadline the same way the RC2 does | 22:27 |
| lcheng_ | gabrielhurley: This might already been answered, when is the deadline for RC2? :) | 22:30 |
| gabrielhurley | end of day thursday | 22:30 |
| gabrielhurley | Alright folks. I'm gonna call the meeting here. | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll follow up on quantum-related issues | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | keep working on the bugs you're each fixing | 22:31 |
| lcheng_ | I have a patch that is ready for review master. how do I get the patch submitted for RC2? | 22:31 |
| lcheng_ | Sorry for the last minute question.. | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | lcheng_: link to the ticket? | 22:31 |
| lcheng_ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1148372 | 22:31 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1148372 in horizon "edit flavor deletes the flavor if special char is used" [Medium,In progress] | 22:31 |
| gabrielhurley | I targeted that for to the RC2 milestone in launchpad this morning | 22:32 |
| gabrielhurley | once the review gets merged to amster we'll port it to the milestone-proposed branch | 22:32 |
| gabrielhurley | *master | 22:32 |
| lcheng_ | Got it. | 22:32 |
| lcheng_ | thanks | 22:32 |
| gabrielhurley | no problem | 22:32 |
| gabrielhurley | alright. have a great week folks! | 22:32 |
| gabrielhurley | #endmeeting | 22:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Mar 26 22:32:54 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-03-26-22.01.html | 22:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-03-26-22.01.txt | 22:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-03-26-22.01.log.html | 22:33 |
| lcheng_ | bye | 22:33 |
| jpich | Likewise to everyone | 22:33 |
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