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| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 15 15:59:28 2013 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 15:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | flaky webchat today | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: morning | 15:59 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: er afternoon | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | lots to discuss today | 16:00 |
| alexpilotti | morning! | 16:00 |
| pnavarro | good morning primeministerp ! | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | how's everyone today | 16:00 |
| alexpilotti | hangovered! | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: good | 16:00 |
| alexpilotti | kidding ;-) | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: you deserve it | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | ;)( | 16:00 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:00 |
| alexpilotti | I still have to properly party for the release | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | on that note | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | #topic Hyper-V/Quantum | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Hyper-V/Quantum (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:01 | |
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| alexpilotti | I guess that I start this one :-) | 16:01 |
| ociuhandu | morning all | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | alessandro's hard work paid off and hyper-v quantum bits were accepted in both the quantum project as well as nova | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: tavi! | 16:02 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: feel free to continue | 16:02 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: ok, was just waiting ;-) | 16:02 |
| alexpilotti | so, fater one week of reviews | 16:03 |
| alexpilotti | 99% of them just spaces, comments, syntax, etc | 16:03 |
| alexpilotti | actually nothing really drastic changed from the proposed stuff | 16:03 |
| alexpilotti | s/fater/after/ lol | 16:04 |
| pnavarro | hehehe | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | hehe | 16:04 |
| alexpilotti | it was a very hard work, but it really paid off | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | yes excellent | 16:04 |
| pnavarro | yeah, congrats alexpilotti ! | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | major milestone achieved | 16:04 |
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| alexpilotti | gongysh, a core reviewer from IBM china helped a lot | 16:04 |
| primeministerp | is he on | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | he's actually the first core dev to really run our stuff on Hyper-V! | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | was hoping to see if he got his msdn acct | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | that's great news | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | no, he's offline, I looked for him | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | it's 00.00 am in Beijing | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | so | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | well offically if anyone else wants to run on hyper-v and needs msdn access, please contact me directly | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | and I'll do my best to get a subscription | 16:06 |
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| primeministerp | sorry | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: continue pls | 16:06 |
| alexpilotti | he worked with me and I helped him on getting his way around on HyperV | 16:06 |
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| alexpilotti | it's very good that he did that, so we have somebody else that can test our code | 16:07 |
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| alexpilotti | another great news is that he tested it also connected to OVS | 16:07 |
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| primeministerp | second eyes are always key | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | including L3 tests | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | and everything works very well I have to say | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | thanks pnavarro for your help in the initial stage of the project! :-) | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | It was very helpful to finish this in time! | 16:08 |
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| primeministerp | haha no hard push like last time | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok to move on? | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: or do you want to get into any more detail | 16:09 |
| alexpilotti | last line as usual: please tests and feedback! :-) | 16:09 |
| pnavarro | it's a pleasure to work with you ! | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | #topic RDP status | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "RDP status (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:10 | |
| primeministerp | so moving on | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | yep | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | is there a general status of the rdp-console-proxy | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | how far off until testable bits | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | the FreeRDP-WebConnect gateway is taking shape | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | 3 weeks | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | great | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | from a testable alfa | 16:11 |
| alexpilotti | so the bad part is that the WebConnect gateway is not mantained anymore | 16:11 |
| alexpilotti | so we updated it to support the latest FreeRDP code | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: were you able to push it upstream? | 16:11 |
| alexpilotti | The FreeRDP itslef was broken, so I worked with Marc, the FreeRDP lead to fix it | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | We agreed with Marc to push it in the official code base | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | which is really cool, as we don't have to mantain a separate fork | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | gotcha | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | which is what killed nova-novnc | 16:12 |
| primeministerp | that works out well then | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | yes | 16:13 |
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| alexpilotti | so, now we are adding the support for Hyper-V console connections to the gateway | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | so moving on | 16:13 |
| alexpilotti | once that is done, we'll add the Keystone bits for auth | 16:13 |
| alexpilotti | we have a dedicated developer on it, Marius, next time I'll ask him to join | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i need to resurrect the customssp provider discussion | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: that would great to get him involved | 16:14 |
| alexpilotti | yeah, for that one we definitely need support from MS | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | yes | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i'm fire in additional requests today | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | er i'll | 16:15 |
| alexpilotti | ah, BTW Marc (FreeRDP) is implementing a porting of CredSSP on Linux | 16:15 |
| alexpilotti | that will also be used by ReactOS | 16:15 |
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| alexpilotti | we agreed to contribute on that project (CredSSP), with it as a base we will be able to have a starting point for the SSH SSP | 16:15 |
| primeministerp | that's good | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | this is a mid term project anyway | 16:16 |
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| alexpilotti | Ah, one small extra: | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | 2 of our guys are woring on a .Net interface on the OPenstack RESTful APIs | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | as we need it for on of our projects | 16:16 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: interesting | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | we'll release that as Apache code of course | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | perfecto | 16:17 |
| alexpilotti | we should speak with ttx to see if they fit somewhere in inclubation | 16:17 |
| alexpilotti | lol "incubation" | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | hehe | 16:17 |
| alexpilotti | my fingers needs some debug :-) | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: maybe address that in an email thread? | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: start the discussion | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | good point | 16:18 |
| alexpilotti | it's fresh news anyway, we started this week | 16:18 |
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| primeministerp | that's good to hear | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | anything else on rdp? | 16:19 |
| alexpilotti | I'll ask Adi and Gerry to join this meeting next time as well | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | perfect | 16:19 |
| alexpilotti | that's it for now | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | #topic general updates | 16:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "general updates (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:19 | |
| primeministerp | Cirrius | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | er | 16:20 |
| alexpilotti | about typos and autocorrection: | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | at least i have an excuse | 16:20 |
| alexpilotti | google suggested for "CirrOS" the term "Cirrosis" | 16:20 |
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| pnavarro | yeah, cirrosis is not cool | 16:21 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: thx | 16:21 |
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| primeministerp | lost my window | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | so Linux integration services were added to CirrOS | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | let me paste the link | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | perfect | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | to cut it short, I worked with smoser to make Cirros working | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | on Hyper-V | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | great news | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | we added the LIS and it works perfectly | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: what's the base os on cirros | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | now we have to package it in a way that the LIS don't get loaded on other hypervisors | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | the kernel is the one from 12.04 | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | gotcha | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cirros/+bug/1099611 | 16:22 |
| smoser | (cirros is the base os for cirros. built from buildroot, with ubuntu kernel). | 16:22 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1099611 in cirros "Missing Hyper-V modules" [Undecided,New] | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | hi smoser :-) | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | smoser: thx | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | smoser: thanks for the help btw | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | smoser: both w/ this and cloudinit bits | 16:23 |
| primeministerp | smoser: greatly appreciated | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: smoser was super fast in packaging it for testing | 16:23 |
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| alexpilotti | smoser: I was updating the masses here with what we did :-) | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: shall we discuss resize? | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | sure | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: will be finished prior to G3 | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: or is it going to pushed to h | 16:25 |
| alexpilotti | "resize" will probably use CirrOS as a working VM for managing the actual resizes of Linux partitions (extx) | 16:25 |
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| alexpilotti | resize depends on the refactoring | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | I'll do anything possible to finish refactoring in time | 16:26 |
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| alexpilotti | is not IMO a mandatory feature for now, as not so many customers really asked for it | 16:26 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: and after the refactor how much additional is needed to rework the original cloud.com code to be in the v2 wmi namespace? | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | but it's still an important feature in Nova | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | danwent: btw thanks for your help as well | 16:27 |
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| primeministerp | danwent: greatly appreciated | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: not much, between 4 and 7 days | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: still attainable for G? | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | V2? | 16:27 |
| alexpilotti | very hard | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:27 |
| hanrahat | alexpilotti: yes thanks on the v2 wmi ... good news | 16:28 |
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| primeministerp | hanrahat: huh? | 16:28 |
| alexpilotti | hanrahat: hi Tom! | 16:28 |
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| primeministerp | hanrahat: we're discussing moving the original cloud.com code from v1 to v2 | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | hanrahat: it's not complete yet | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | hanrahat: that's work to be done | 16:28 |
| hanrahat | primeministerp: understood. i was referring to the time estimeate | 16:29 |
| hanrahat | estimate | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | hanrahat: perfect | 16:29 |
| alexpilotti | th eoriginal cloud.com code is not exactly a show of best coding principles, to be eufemistic | 16:29 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: we should probabably talk about the renaming | 16:29 |
| alexpilotti | so the sooner we clean it up and refactor it the better it will be | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | as well | 16:29 |
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| alexpilotti | renaming? | 16:29 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: the suggestion | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | on renaming the hyper-v | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | ah yeah. | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | in the refactor | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | should we change topic? | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | yes | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | ok | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | to what specifically | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 16:30 |
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| alexpilotti | russellb asked to move all the Hyper-V specific options | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | #topic Hyper-V Specific Options | 16:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Hyper-V Specific Options (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:31 | |
| alexpilotti | to a [HYPERV] group | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | so | 16:31 |
| alexpilotti | it will break compatibility with older versions of course | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | I'm all for it | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | well | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | we're going to break compat once we move to v2 | 16:31 |
| alexpilotti | but the more we wait the worse it will be | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | that's correct | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | I'm in agreement | 16:31 |
| alexpilotti | also the installer will take care of it for most customers | 16:32 |
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| primeministerp | well | 16:32 |
| alexpilotti | and for manual deployments we will make sure to document it well | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | considering we already got a backport request for the yet to be completed RDP code | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | I would imagine we would also get a back port request | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | for this | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | cern is moving to folsom, not grizzly | 16:33 |
| alexpilotti | hmm | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | i believe | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | could cause some issue for thier deployment | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | no | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | er now | 16:33 |
| alexpilotti | our Folsom code contains 10% of the features we have | 16:33 |
| russellb | thanks guys :) | 16:33 |
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| alexpilotti | If they are serious about it, we should backport the entire HyperV driver | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | russellb: np | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | russellb: thanks for your help | 16:34 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: we didn't say yes yet! :-D | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | so | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | I'm in agreement that it should be renamed | 16:34 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: kidding | 16:34 |
| alexpilotti | +1 | 16:34 |
| ociuhandu | +1 | 16:34 |
| russellb | happy to help with ideas on backwards compatibility if needed | 16:34 |
| russellb | that's up to you guys | 16:34 |
| pnavarro | +1 | 16:34 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: ? | 16:34 |
| russellb | easier code change if you just don't bother | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | russellb: that would be great | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | russellb: well that is true | 16:35 |
| russellb | thing is ... we already have code to easily support the old option name ... but I don't think it supports the case of moving options to a new group | 16:35 |
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| russellb | wouldn't be too hard to add support for it i'm guessing ... but it's just another step that needs to be done | 16:35 |
| russellb | would be a patch to cfg in oslo | 16:35 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: I don't think it's worth for us now | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: let's push it to H | 16:36 |
| alexpilotti | the rename? | 16:36 |
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| primeministerp | well | 16:36 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: ^ | 16:36 |
| * primeministerp thinks | 16:36 | |
| primeministerp | is it worth doing it now? | 16:36 |
| russellb | why not now? | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | maybe i didn't understand where you were going | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | w/ your comment | 16:36 |
| alexpilotti | pushing it for H means having a lot of customers having backwards compatibility issues | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: yes I agree | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:37 |
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| primeministerp | we're on the same page | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | tha'ts the only issue i have | 16:37 |
| alexpilotti | ok, so option rename goes for G3, ok? | 16:37 |
| russellb | it would be all the same option names, just in [HYPERV] instead of [DEFAULT] | 16:37 |
| russellb | to tidy things up a bit :) | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:38 |
| russellb | in general, we want to move more and more things into groups as it makes sense | 16:38 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: what do we do with the "cross hypervisor" ones? | 16:38 |
| alexpilotti | like "force_config_drive"? | 16:38 |
| russellb | if it's cross hypervisor ... leave in [DEFAULT] for now | 16:39 |
| alexpilotti | which is also available for KVM? | 16:39 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: ok | 16:39 |
| russellb | just the stuff that you know is hyperv specific | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | that makes more sense | 16:39 |
| alexpilotti | russellb: ok tx, I'll ping you if I have doubts about specific options! | 16:40 |
| russellb | sounds good | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | russellb: thanks again | 16:40 |
| russellb | sure, np | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | #topic CI progress | 16:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI progress (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:40 | |
| primeministerp | so tavi and i have been working on our puppet bits | 16:41 |
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| primeministerp | hopefully we'll have our first control ring up in a couple weeks | 16:41 |
| primeministerp | maybe sooner | 16:41 |
| primeministerp | mordred: ping | 16:41 |
| primeministerp | so | 16:42 |
| primeministerp | anyone have anything additional to add? | 16:42 |
| pnavarro | yes | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: I think i know what the problem is w/ the puppet registration | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: shoot | 16:43 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: cool | 16:43 |
| pnavarro | what are next steps for quantum? | 16:43 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: keystone is 99% done | 16:43 |
| ociuhandu | and all "clients" are working fine | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: good | 16:43 |
| ociuhandu | i expect the other ones to go faster now | 16:44 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: i need to get moving on the other windows pieces as well | 16:44 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: also a first "draft" for the compute node is working | 16:44 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: i've been testing that this week | 16:44 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: i'm sure we're missing something | 16:44 |
| primeministerp | we'll find out shortly | 16:45 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: that's a good question | 16:45 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: there are bunch of different discussions going on | 16:45 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: I think we should discuss it in the general discussion after the CI! | 16:46 |
| pnavarro | CERN guys were interested in ceilometer project, do you know if they are coding something? | 16:46 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: yes | 16:46 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: they mentioned interest to me a while back | 16:46 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: however I don't know if they are | 16:46 |
| pnavarro | ok, sorry, I thought primeministerp was going to close the meeting | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: I've always looked at cielometer as a H project | 16:47 |
| pnavarro | got it ! | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: we can move the discussion | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | I'll close | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | the meeting | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | thanks for the time everyone | 16:47 |
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| primeministerp | great work | 16:47 |
| primeministerp | as usual alexpilotti | 16:48 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: i'll be in touch | 16:48 |
| primeministerp | #closemeeting | 16:48 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: tx! and tx pnavarro as well! | 16:48 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:48 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 15 16:48:31 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-01-15-15.59.html | 16:48 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-01-15-15.59.txt | 16:48 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2013/hyper_v.2013-01-15-15.59.log.html | 16:48 |
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| alexpilotti | primeministerp: we moved to -hyper-v | 16:49 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: coming | 16:50 |
| primeministerp | #openstack-hyper-v | 16:50 |
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| mordred | primeministerp: morning! | 17:44 |
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| dwchadwick | hello everyone | 18:00 |
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| kwss | hello | 18:00 |
| henrynash | hi | 18:00 |
| topol | Hi | 18:00 |
| jorgew | Hello | 18:00 |
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| ayoung | Keystone! \O\ /O/ \O/ /O/ | 18:00 |
| dolphm | do we have a heckj around? | 18:01 |
| joesavak | hiya | 18:01 |
| ayoung | dolphm, nope | 18:02 |
| dolphm | alright... | 18:02 |
| gyee | o/ | 18:02 |
| dolphm | #startmeeting keystone | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 15 18:02:18 2013 UTC. The chair is dolphm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
| gyee | full house today :) | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:02 |
| dolphm | #topic Team Membership Updates | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Team Membership Updates (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:02 | |
| dolphm | official welcome to henrynash and gyee :) | 18:02 |
| henrynash | thank you, kindly | 18:02 |
| gyee | look forward to do some serious damage | 18:03 |
| ayoung | Good job on code reviews this past week. Much appreciated you two | 18:03 |
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| dolphm | keep it up :) | 18:03 |
| henrynash | :) | 18:03 |
| dolphm | #topic Test Coverage | 18:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Test Coverage (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
| dolphm | ayoung: any updates? | 18:03 |
| ayoung | topol, want to join the weekly Keystone meeting? | 18:03 |
| topol | yes | 18:03 |
| topol | this is it correct? | 18:03 |
| ayoung | dolphm, no major changes in test coverage has happened this week | 18:04 |
| ayoung | dolphm, going back one step | 18:04 |
| joesavak | jorgew and myself are here too. : ) | 18:04 |
| ayoung | topol is going to be helping out on LDAP support | 18:04 |
| dolphm | yay! | 18:04 |
| ayoung | topol, who is the other dev with you? | 18:04 |
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| topol | sahdev will be helping too | 18:04 |
| topol | say hi sahdev | 18:04 |
| spzala | ayoung: hi Adam, I would like to join keystone weekly meeting as well. | 18:04 |
| ayoung | cool | 18:05 |
| spzala | Hi all! | 18:05 |
| dolphm | spzala: /salute | 18:05 |
| gyee | welcome | 18:05 |
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| ayoung | This is starting to feel like a real project. | 18:05 |
| topol | Thanks | 18:05 |
| spzala | :-) thanks! | 18:05 |
| ayoung | so, back to test coverage. Lets open a Jenkins bug to rerun the test coverage results | 18:06 |
| dolphm | ayoung: a bug? | 18:06 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i.e. we lost coverage on something? | 18:06 |
| ayoung | dolphm, wasn't it there before and got removed? | 18:06 |
| ayoung | I thought you said last week that we used to run coverage on each Jenkins run | 18:06 |
| ayoung | otherwise RFE | 18:06 |
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| ayoung | Should be as simple as adding the flag to run_tests.sh, but maybe jenkins doesn;t use that | 18:07 |
| dolphm | ah that kind of coverage | 18:07 |
| ayoung | yeah, unit test coverage | 18:07 |
| dolphm | i don't see the charting anymore on jenkins, but we have the infrastructure for it as far as i can tell | 18:08 |
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| dolphm | keystoneclient too | 18:08 |
| dolphm | see tox.ini | 18:08 |
| ayoung | dolphm, so, for example, http://logs.openstack.org/18519/5/check/gate-keystone-python27/2010/ | 18:09 |
| dolphm | ayoung: want to tackle that? | 18:09 |
| ayoung | dolphm, sure | 18:09 |
| ayoung | #action ayoung get jenkins to generate unit test coverage report | 18:09 |
| dolphm | #action ayoung to trace down jenkins coverage reporting | 18:09 |
| dolphm | and do it twice! | 18:10 |
| joesavak | ha | 18:10 |
| dolphm | #topic critical issues | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "critical issues (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:10 | |
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| dolphm | i know we have a security-related fix in the works, anything else on fire? | 18:10 |
| ayoung | http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:11 |
| dolphm | ayoung: yeah, criticalness appears to have dissappeared from the agenda | 18:11 |
| ayoung | For everyone new, Agenda is ^^ | 18:11 |
| dolphm | i noticed yesterday that db_sync no longer supports specifying a migration number -- need to file a bug on taht | 18:12 |
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| dolphm | #action dolphm to file a bug on lack of db_sync migration number option | 18:12 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I don't think it is critical, but the is an issue identified by tempest WRT roles that is coming up as a bug. I'll take it for now | 18:12 |
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| ayoung | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/29472/ | 18:13 |
| ayoung | jaypipes is opening/assigning | 18:13 |
| dolphm | cool | 18:13 |
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| dolphm | i'll assume that's it for now | 18:13 |
| dolphm | #topic "Default" domain migration | 18:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ""Default" domain migration (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:13 | |
| dolphm | so, this is a topic i've only scratched the surface on, but i wanted to give everyone a heads up on what i'm doing | 18:14 |
| dolphm | this is probably bp worthy, so... | 18:14 |
| dolphm | #action dolphm to write default-domain blueprint | 18:14 |
| ayoung | dolphm, how does that tie in with henrynash 's domain blueprint... | 18:14 |
| dolphm | anyway, we'll be creating a data migration to create a Default domain (id=default, name=Default) that will contain user/tenant resources on the V2 API | 18:15 |
| ayoung | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/domain-name-spaces | 18:15 |
| henrynash | dolphm: I'm already monkeying around with domains, so feel free to assign it to me :-) | 18:15 |
| dolphm | i assume it'll use private namespaces once that bp is implemented | 18:15 |
| ayoung | +1 | 18:15 |
| gyee | henrynash, I meant to response to your domain namespace proposal | 18:16 |
| dolphm | any operation on the v2 API will automatically work with default domain resources (creating a new tenant on v2 will create a project in v3 in the default domain) | 18:16 |
| dolphm | we may also need to special case the domain so that users can't accidentally delete it from the v3 api | 18:16 |
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| dolphm | and i'd also like to make the default_domain_id a configuration option so that users can override the behavior and delete the domain we create if they'd prefer | 18:16 |
| dolphm | any objections? | 18:17 |
| dolphm | or questions | 18:17 |
| ayoung | dolphm, no. | 18:17 |
| ayoung | dolphm, a suggestion | 18:17 |
| dolphm | or suggestions | 18:17 |
| gyee | +1 on default_domain_id | 18:17 |
| henrynash | dolphm: we need to also define what happens when (in v3) a user creates entities without specify a domain (e.ff. users) | 18:17 |
| ayoung | we should probably gues the default domain from the DNS domain name. | 18:17 |
| ayoung | But that is an install issue | 18:17 |
| henrynash | do they go in the default domain? | 18:18 |
| dolphm | henrynash: my thoughts-- automatically create the user in the creating user's domain | 18:18 |
| dolphm | same for projects | 18:18 |
| joesavak | +1 | 18:18 |
| joesavak | (autlo create the userin the creating user's domain) | 18:18 |
| ayoung | why users domain and not "default" domain? | 18:18 |
| topol | the same domain you plan to use for v2 tenants or are they separate? | 18:19 |
| ayoung | Or, if there is more than one domain, why not force them to specify? | 18:19 |
| dolphm | ayoung: as a v3 user, that doesn't seem intuitive to me | 18:19 |
| dolphm | ayoung: as a v2 user, i don't care about domains, but the implementation has to | 18:19 |
| ayoung | dolphm, so the question is how should the V2 API behave? | 18:19 |
| dolphm | ayoung: in terms of..? | 18:20 |
| ayoung | if no domain is specified. | 18:20 |
| dolphm | ayoung: v2 api isn't domain-aware | 18:20 |
| ayoung | V2 create user needs to guess the domain | 18:20 |
| ayoung | OK, I can go with "same as user" | 18:20 |
| ayoung | for V3, lets make it default if there is only one domain, and must be specified if there is more than one? | 18:20 |
| dolphm | ayoung: that's an interesting thought... | 18:20 |
| dolphm | ayoung: we can apply that behavior across both API's | 18:21 |
| dolphm | ayoung: or, hrm | 18:21 |
| dolphm | ayoung: can users not in the default domain authenticate on the v2 api? they absolutely can't with a privately namespaced domain | 18:21 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I'm ok with guessing for V2. We don;t want to break existing tools, and matching the existing user seems to make the most sense | 18:22 |
| dolphm | ..without using ID's | 18:22 |
| joesavak | FYI - jorgew and i have a hard stop at 12:30 and would like to discuss multi-project/token scope | 18:22 |
| dolphm | i'll write the BP and ping the list | 18:22 |
| henrynash | dolphm: +1 | 18:22 |
| dolphm | #topic multi-project tokens in V3 | 18:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "multi-project tokens in V3 (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:22 | |
| joesavak | dolphm - thank you | 18:23 |
| ayoung | joesavak, any change in your thinking from last discussion? | 18:23 |
| dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19014/ | 18:23 |
| joesavak | We've updated to include the roles under tokens per your suggestion ayoung | 18:23 |
| ayoung | joesavak, +1 | 18:24 |
| henrynash | so I think the proposal hangs together fine….as long as we are convinced we need the capability…sorry for keeping on asking about that... | 18:24 |
| joesavak | henrynash: the rax use case may be unique but it could happen again. We had a swift product runnning under 1 tenant. We acquired a company (mosso) that is the compute product running under a different tenant structure | 18:24 |
| jorgew | So we have two major reasons for the feature | 18:24 |
| ayoung | henrynash, it should not be a general use thing, but only for specific use cases that span multiple tenants | 18:24 |
| jorgew | and joe just mentioned one of them :-) | 18:24 |
| joesavak | so to do a back up of a compute instance and to store in a swift instance, we need a token capable of seeing 2 projects | 18:25 |
| jorgew | ayoung, +1 | 18:25 |
| ayoung | the question is how to consume them | 18:25 |
| jorgew | The other is to keep in mind that V2 supported the feature at least in the contract | 18:25 |
| ayoung | My thinking is that we should make a multi-project token look like a single project token, but provide the data to the application from the middleware | 18:25 |
| jorgew | ayoung, I agree. | 18:26 |
| ayoung | auth_token will just say "yep, this is OK" | 18:26 |
| ayoung | the unmarshalled token data should then be in the context | 18:26 |
| jorgew | in fact because a resource can belong in a single project, then and the validate call can check for that the change is minimal | 18:26 |
| ayoung | Now, RBAC will come into play | 18:26 |
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| dolphm | joesavak: v2 supported this feature in the XML contract, but the feature was lost in the JSON interpretation of that contract | 18:27 |
| jorgew | dolphm, I think our implementation went ahead and added the support in JSON :-) | 18:27 |
| jorgew | +1 on adding support for JSON schema :-) | 18:27 |
| dwchadwick | seems the obvious answer, fix JSON | 18:28 |
| joesavak | +1 ; ) | 18:28 |
| dolphm | ayoung: we don't have a way to provide multiple projects to services underlying auth_token today, i wrote a comment in the review about how to go about supporting that | 18:28 |
| ayoung | dolphm, right. | 18:28 |
| joesavak | any questions on the use cases presented? | 18:29 |
| dolphm | dwchadwick: which will immediately break all clients written against the current implementation; it's too late to go back and match the intent at this point on v2 | 18:29 |
| dwchadwick | We have an alternative use case based on federated identities | 18:29 |
| ayoung | dolphm, my point is that it should be possible to use a multi-project token like a single project token, perhaps based on the ordering of the projects requested. Some projects are more equal than others. | 18:29 |
| dolphm | dwchadwick: please share | 18:29 |
| dwchadwick | When you present a set of identity attributes from the federated infrastructure, then these are mapped into local tenants/domains/roles | 18:30 |
| ayoung | dwchadwick, that uses a different middleware, correct? | 18:30 |
| henrynash | joesavak:…so once we different services based on different trees, I think I get the need | 18:30 |
| dwchadwick | yes | 18:30 |
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| dwchadwick | so the client is presented with a set of tenants to choose from | 18:30 |
| gyee | ayoung, I am not sure about the ordering | 18:30 |
| dwchadwick | currently he picks just one, but can swap to another one later if he wants to | 18:31 |
| gyee | depending on ordering is too easy for implementations to screw up | 18:31 |
| dwchadwick | so the client has a set of accounts he can use from his single authentication session. Thus it should be possible to support this with keystone tokens | 18:31 |
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| dolphm | simply migrating a resource from ownership by project A to ownership by project B requires authz on both projects (which is a use case requested on the mailing list recently) | 18:31 |
| dwchadwick | that is a different case to the one I am talking about | 18:32 |
| dolphm | granted you could implement it with multiple tokens | 18:32 |
| ayoung | dolphm, I have to say, I really don't like the _build_user_headers aspect of auth_token middleware. It feels wrong | 18:32 |
| ayoung | But, if we must... | 18:32 |
| ayoung | X_TENANT_IDS, X_TENANT_NAMES ... | 18:32 |
| ayoung | comma separated | 18:33 |
| ayoung | X_ROLES...ugh | 18:33 |
| dolphm | ayoung: what if the name includes a comma? | 18:33 |
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| gyee | or in chinese? :) | 18:33 |
| dolphm | gyee: right | 18:33 |
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| ayoung | <lando>This deal is getting worse all the time! </lando> | 18:33 |
| dolphm | i think you need to JSON encode a list of strings (w/ unicode support) | 18:34 |
| ayoung | dolphm, and, since this is all consumed by the WSGI app after the auth_token middleware, it should all be in the context, and not in custom headers | 18:34 |
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| gyee | I think various context are built from the headers right now | 18:35 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: i'm not aware of another way to communicate between middleware layers except through the environment | 18:35 |
| gyee | we can stash the entire token access into the env | 18:36 |
| ayoung | gyee, yeah | 18:36 |
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| ayoung | gyee, change "we can" to "we should" | 18:36 |
| gyee | amen | 18:36 |
| joesavak | we are diving quite deep into the implementation for multi-projects/token. Is that needed to agree on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19014/ ? | 18:37 |
| dolphm | then you're expecting underlying services to understand identity api v2, v3, v4, etc | 18:37 |
| dolphm | which is not their responsibility | 18:37 |
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| gyee | we version the tokens | 18:38 |
| gyee | might as well :) | 18:38 |
| dolphm | joesavak: the only snag i see is that we'll also need to support multi-domain tokens since we're also going down the domain-scoped route | 18:38 |
| dwchadwick | You need to move to an extensible design for the API if you can, so that new features can be added without changing the api | 18:38 |
| ayoung | dolphm, multi project tokens are breaking the xcontract regadless of who we break it | 18:38 |
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| jorgew1 | dolphm, really it's the middle ware that needs to understand this. Note that a resoruce still exists in a single project | 18:38 |
| dwchadwick | the attribute type-value approach solves at least part of this | 18:38 |
| dwchadwick | so domains would have just become yet another attribute in the set, and the API would not have needed to change to cater for domains | 18:38 |
| joesavak | +1 dwchadwick | 18:39 |
| gyee | dwchadwick, what does the attribute for project_ids like? | 18:39 |
| dolphm | jorgew1: the implementation spans client + server + middleware though | 18:39 |
| dwchadwick | project-ID=11324 | 18:39 |
| gyee | services still need to be aware of the attributes right? | 18:39 |
| dwchadwick | project-ID=456578 | 18:40 |
| gyee | for multi-project scoping? | 18:40 |
| dwchadwick | yes they do, but that then becomes a config issue of the service | 18:40 |
| henrynash | so I think we may be getting off in the weeds here…. | 18:40 |
| ayoung | dwchadwick, the question is not whether we can solve this in the general case. The question is can we solve this with the existing contract. I'm all for attribute based, but that still means changing the other projects consumption of the tokens | 18:40 |
| gyee | how does that different from X-Project-IDs? | 18:40 |
| ayoung | We've left the weeds behind. We are in the woods, crossing a stream | 18:41 |
| dolphm | ;) | 18:41 |
| ayoung | and I think I spotted a deer tick | 18:41 |
| joesavak | lol | 18:41 |
| dolphm | alright... | 18:41 |
| dolphm | #topic SQL Testing | 18:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SQL Testing (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:41 | |
| dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18519/ | 18:41 |
| ayoung | joesavak, I'm OK with the concept of multi-proejct tokens, but I don;'t think the existing projects can consume them yet. Any thing consuming them needs to be a one off. | 18:42 |
| dolphm | ayoung: ^ | 18:42 |
| ayoung | OK, so the review above again has a test fix | 18:42 |
| dolphm | ayoung: don't think = can't :) | 18:42 |
| gyee | ayoung, a great topic for the next summit | 18:42 |
| joesavak | ayoung - ok. thanks for everyone's attention on it. | 18:42 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18519/5/keystone/common/sql/migrate_repo/versions/009_normalize_identity_migration.py | 18:42 |
| ayoung | This downgrade was not tested | 18:42 |
| dolphm | my only realy issue with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18519/ is that it's effectively stepping on the toes of tempest, which is already built for this | 18:43 |
| ayoung | it probably should have its own unit test, but it gets run as part of the downgrade | 18:43 |
| henrynash | dolpm: fyi ,we missed the v3 token discussion topic on the agenda | 18:43 |
| ayoung | dolphm, disagree | 18:43 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1099966 | 18:44 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1099966 in keystone "Race condition when rapidly deleting and creating tokens" [Undecided,New] | 18:44 |
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| ayoung | tempest should be feeding us test that we should be working into the unit test framework, but we should be able to run against live DBs as part of development | 18:44 |
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| dolphm | henrynash: ah, i'll hit that next/last | 18:44 |
| ayoung | A developer shouldn't need to know about Tempest to check that Keystone works | 18:44 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: lemme know if the information in the bug isn't enough... happy to provide more. | 18:44 |
| ayoung | and while sqlite is a good first approximateion, We should be able to test against a RDBMS | 18:44 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, would you say it is a critical? | 18:45 |
| gyee | I have bad experiences where stuff appeared to work in sqlite but blow up in mysql | 18:45 |
| ayoung | gyee, and I don;t trust MySQL. I want PostgrSQL | 18:45 |
| gyee | so be able to test against different DBs is definitely useful | 18:45 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: meh.. I'm just ignoring the failures in my local tempest env. But it would be nice to fix. | 18:46 |
| gyee | ayoung, that's the point | 18:46 |
| ayoung | It was essential for LDAP, too | 18:46 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: I could give it a go myself. | 18:46 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: also, has nothing to do with MySQL. | 18:46 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i don't disagree, but the same issue applies to all of openstack... hence, it's a project-wide initiative... ergo, tempest | 18:46 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, nah, that is part of the ongoing discussion, not on that bug | 18:46 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: and we do run tempest against an env with a PG backend. | 18:46 |
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| jaypipes | ayoung: https://jenkins.openstack.org/view/Tempest/job/gate-tempest-devstack-vm-postgres/ | 18:47 |
| ayoung | dolphm, so the remaining changes in that bug (other than the fix to 009) are just to use teardown instead of assuming a blank database. We could make that conditional on the URL, and assume blank fro sqlite, use teardown otherwise | 18:47 |
| gyee | dolphm, somebody's going to do it | 18:48 |
| ayoung | jaypipes, we are discussing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18519/ | 18:48 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, I think that the same approach (check the URL) probably makes sense for the rest of the unit tests. But that will be a separate commit. It has other issues to work through. | 18:48 |
| jaypipes | ayoung: oh, sorry man. | 18:48 |
| * jaypipes goes back into his hole. | 18:49 | |
| ayoung | dolphm, should I move https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18519/5/keystone/common/sql/migrate_repo/versions/009_normalize_identity_migration.py into its own review like I did the other fix? | 18:49 |
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| dolphm | jaypipes: lol your input is appreciated | 18:50 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i would say so | 18:51 |
| dolphm | ayoung: not that it has backport potential, but it'll still merge faster as a discrete fix | 18:51 |
| ayoung | dolphm, OK, will do so. Then I can redo the above for both upgrade test and unit tests. | 18:51 |
| dolphm | ayoung: cool | 18:52 |
| dolphm | #topic v3 tokens/authn/authz etc. | 18:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "v3 tokens/authn/authz etc. (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:52 | |
| dolphm | i didn't add this, but i assume this was the API discussion in gyee's thread? | 18:53 |
| henrynash | guang: I added this so you had a chance to discuss | 18:53 |
| ayoung | good idea | 18:53 |
| gyee | excellent | 18:53 |
| ayoung | OK, so I still don't really want to build multiple auth support into Keystone if we get it from Apache for free, but... | 18:53 |
| ayoung | I do want to be able to use basic_auth and HTML | 18:54 |
| henrynash | gyee: vested interest…since I need to make changes to this for both domain-scoping and name-spaces | 18:54 |
| dolphm | ayoung: not everyone runs behind apache | 18:54 |
| ayoung | And we need a V3 API for Authentication | 18:54 |
| ayoung | dolphm, not yet they don't... | 18:54 |
| gyee | ayoung, they said you can get java for free before oracle comes in :) | 18:54 |
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| ayoung | the use case I can see as most important is | 18:55 |
| ayoung | keep ID in Mysql but auth against LDAP | 18:56 |
| ayoung | I'd like that to be the first supported | 18:56 |
| ayoung | assume that syncing users from LDAP to MySQL is done externally somehow... | 18:56 |
| dolphm | ayoung: how does that impact the API? | 18:56 |
| ayoung | dolphm, that makes LDAP the first supported Auth Mechanism | 18:56 |
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| ayoung | instead of Google whateveritis | 18:56 |
| gyee | with auth plugin, I don't care where you store LDAP users | 18:57 |
| gyee | Keystone can just be a proxy for all I care | 18:57 |
| dolphm | gyee: +1 | 18:57 |
| ayoung | gyee, right. just understand that this is the single most demanded feature right now | 18:57 |
| gyee | since we are going to abstract auth, token issuance, and token validation | 18:57 |
| dolphm | gyee: have you worked on a python API for authentication plugins? | 18:57 |
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| gyee | you can effectively have your own backends | 18:57 |
| gyee | dolphm, not formally | 18:58 |
| gyee | just have a bunch of brain farts so far | 18:58 |
| dolphm | gyee: {'auth': {'password'}} x.authenticate(**contents_of_object_x) | 18:58 |
| dolphm | whoops | 18:58 |
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| ayoung | one question: how are we going to decide which auth mechanism to use for a given request? | 18:59 |
| gyee | dolphm, I'll send out a proposal for the interfaces this week, assuming we all agree on the direction | 18:59 |
| dolphm | gyee: {'auth': {'password': {'username': 'a', 'password': 'b'}} -> password_plugin.authenticate(username='a', password='b') | 18:59 |
| ayoung | Domain is the most viable option | 18:59 |
| dolphm | something like, **explode the contents of hte request that map to the name of the plugin | 18:59 |
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| gyee | yep | 19:00 |
| dolphm | ayoung: according to gyee's proposal, it depends on the contents of the request | 19:00 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, that is too wide open | 19:00 |
| gyee | mechanism maps to the plugin seem simple enough | 19:00 |
| dolphm | plugins[plugin_name].authenticate(**credentials) -> resulting in -> plugins['password'].authenticate(username='a', password='b') | 19:01 |
| dolphm | ayoung: what is too wide open for what | 19:01 |
| ayoung | dolphm, "based on the request" | 19:01 |
| ayoung | that implies a whole policy like rules engine | 19:01 |
| ayoung | I'd prefer it to be something more implementable\ | 19:01 |
| gyee | I am not seeing any problem | 19:01 |
| gyee | if we don't support a given auth mechanism, we return a 401 | 19:02 |
| ayoung | like list the auth mechanisms in the config file, and then the domain entry has an auth mechanism specified in it | 19:02 |
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| dolphm | ah, we're over time | 19:02 |
| dolphm | switch to #openstack-dev ;) | 19:02 |
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| dolphm | #endmeeting | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 15 19:02:34 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-01-15-18.02.html | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-01-15-18.02.txt | 19:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2013/keystone.2013-01-15-18.02.log.html | 19:02 |
| fungi | ci times? | 19:03 |
| clarkb | *ci fun times. FTFY | 19:03 |
| jeblair | yay! | 19:04 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting infra | 19:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 15 19:04:40 2013 UTC. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:04 |
| jeblair | in accordance with the first item from last meeting, i'm calling this meeting infra. | 19:05 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:05 |
| * fungi cheers | 19:05 | |
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| jeblair | #action jeblair make sure wiki/calendar are updated | 19:05 |
| jeblair | #topic CLA | 19:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CLA (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:05 | |
| ttx | o/ | 19:05 |
| jeblair | ttx: oh, hi! while you're here... we want to call this the infra meeting, can you update the calendar entry? | 19:06 |
| fungi | we've got the new cla text wrapped up i think (just needs approval/merge): | 19:06 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/19335 | 19:06 |
| jeblair | fungi: that's safe to do now? | 19:06 |
| ttx | doing it now | 19:07 |
| jeblair | ttx: (i believe i can update the wiki page) | 19:07 |
| clarkb | did we get a response to fungi's question in the change ocmments? | 19:07 |
| * ttx is parralelizing with an audio meeting | 19:07 | |
| fungi | yes, it doesn't get linked anywhere until we start using gerrit clas | 19:07 |
| clarkb | something about referring to text below a point in the CLA document? | 19:07 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yes, latest change reflects that | 19:07 |
| fungi | clarkb: yep, jonathan got back to us on that | 19:07 |
| jeblair | clarkb: it's an inline block now | 19:07 |
| ttx | I'm happy to share agenda-updating privileges. [caution: trap in previous sentence] | 19:07 |
| ttx | infra team meeting it is | 19:08 |
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| fungi | we also need reviews on the cla implementation change itself... | 19:09 |
| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/14099 | 19:09 |
| fungi | this is basically shifting the review-dev only bits over to apply to review.o.o as well | 19:09 |
| clarkb | should we remove the WIP tag from that change? | 19:10 |
| fungi | it's still set to wip, but i can un-wip it if that helps. still don't want it to merge until we schedule | 19:10 |
| clarkb | in that case maybe its best to leave it as WIP | 19:10 |
| clarkb | so that nothing happens unintentionally | 19:10 |
| fungi | yeah, that's why i opted to advertise it in the meeting instead | 19:10 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:11 |
| jeblair | fungi: cool, what about doc updates and scheduling? | 19:11 |
| jeblair | fungi: you had an etherpad somethere with the whole plan, right? | 19:12 |
| fungi | i need to finish up a few bits of the documentation updates and submit a change to turn off user sync (all three should go in at the same time) | 19:12 |
| fungi | sorry, fell off the office wireless for a moment | 19:12 |
| fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/cla-maintenance-2012 | 19:13 |
| fungi | (slightly in need of a rename now) | 19:13 |
| fungi | but i think the outstanding pieces are trivial enough we can pick adate | 19:13 |
| fungi | er, a date | 19:13 |
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| jeblair | fungi: the communication with todd can go ahead and happen, right? | 19:14 |
| jeblair | about the appsec? | 19:14 |
| fungi | jeblair: yes, i'll sync up with him. he'll want to change that around the same time we merge the cut-over changes | 19:14 |
| jeblair | fungi: oh, why not now? | 19:15 |
| fungi | jeblair: well, the cla implementation on review-dev will start working when he invalidates its appsec key | 19:15 |
| fungi | sorry, stop working | 19:16 |
| fungi | maybe we want to repoint that to a dummy cgi first? | 19:16 |
| fungi | i can do that after lunch pretty easily | 19:16 |
| fungi | basically a one-line change to the gerrit config and a four-line (or so) cgi | 19:17 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeah, let's do that and then go aheand and coordinate with todd | 19:17 |
| jeblair | fungi: and then when todd&co have a staging server, we can point review-dev at that | 19:17 |
| fungi | yep, sounds good | 19:17 |
| clarkb | ++ | 19:17 |
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| ttx | jeblair: I'll have to drop in a few. We should really move that meeting at some other time some other day :) | 19:18 |
| ttx | anything you needed from me ? | 19:18 |
| jeblair | fungi: the announcement looks generally good, though i feel like http://ci.openstack.org/gerrit.html#group-management should probably be a wiki page... | 19:18 |
| fungi | jeblair: works for me. i can do that easily enough | 19:19 |
| jeblair | ttx: i don't think so; i think the other big thing is the wiki migration | 19:19 |
| ttx | I haven't worked on the main page yet. I plan to do that tomorrow. | 19:19 |
| fungi | i'd like to make sure whatever scheduling we do for the cla cut-over doesn't intersect with the wiki final migration | 19:19 |
| fungi | since there are wiki bits involved | 19:19 |
| jeblair | what about sunday feb 17th? | 19:20 |
| jeblair | for the cla change | 19:20 |
| * fungi looks at a calendar | 19:20 | |
| jeblair | i think that's the first time i'm available after LCA | 19:20 |
| fungi | sure, works for me | 19:20 |
| ttx | jeblair: that's the weekend just before g3 | 19:20 |
| fungi | ooh, right | 19:21 |
| ttx | a.k.a. money time | 19:21 |
| jeblair | sun feb 24th? | 19:21 |
| clarkb | that should work for m | 19:21 |
| clarkb | *me | 19:21 |
| fungi | i can do the 24th | 19:21 |
| ttx | Sure, i'll be on ski slopes at that point :) | 19:21 |
| mordred | ++ | 19:21 |
| fungi | ha! | 19:21 |
| mordred | that's the academy awards, just fyi | 19:21 |
| jeblair | yeah, i'll just have to ski on saturday. :) | 19:21 |
| clarkb | ttx: you should tell us when all of your ski days are so that we can plan to break things then | 19:22 |
| annegentle_itsme | I keep meaning to send an email to the mailing list about the wiki migration, shall I do so with a new date? | 19:22 |
| jeblair | mordred: annegentle_itsme we had a few things we wanted to get sorted before scheduling the date... | 19:23 |
| annegentle_itsme | jeblair: ah ok | 19:23 |
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| ttx | how are we doing with the openstack theme ? | 19:23 |
| annegentle_itsme | jeblair: I think communicating that would be good | 19:23 |
| clarkb | olaph: ^ | 19:23 |
| jeblair | #topic wiki | 19:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "wiki (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:23 | |
| annegentle_itsme | jeblair: that is, what's still in the works and part of the plan | 19:23 |
| jeblair | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2013/ci.2013-01-08-19.03.html | 19:23 |
| olaph | http://openstack-wiki-instance.pmtpa.wmflabs/wiki/Main_Page | 19:24 |
| ttx | We had a number of blocking issues -- get the main page ok (should be ready by tomorrow) and a base theme | 19:24 |
| jeblair | annegentle_itsme: the three big things are under item 6 there | 19:24 |
| olaph | oh, no, wait | 19:24 |
| ttx | any other issue we needed to solve before cutoff? | 19:24 |
| jeblair | Ryan_Lane: ping | 19:24 |
| jeblair | ttx: the third was the redirects | 19:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | didn't get to it just yet :( | 19:24 |
| annegentle_itsme | jeblair: got it | 19:24 |
| ttx | oh right, serving everything under / | 19:24 |
| jeblair | so it sounds like we should give ourselves another week and see if those three things are resolved, and try to schedule a date hten | 19:25 |
| jeblair | olaph: how is your skin coming? | 19:25 |
| ttx | sounds good. My part should be covered by then | 19:25 |
| annegentle_itsme | jeblair: sounds very reasonable | 19:25 |
| jeblair | #action ttx make nice front page | 19:25 |
| jeblair | #action Ryan_Lane handle redirects | 19:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | day job is currently killing me. I should hopefully get time soonish. | 19:25 |
| ttx | Ryan_Lane: couldn't you edit the wiki page of your job and fix it ? | 19:26 |
| jeblair | Ryan_Lane: much appreciated. | 19:26 |
| jeblair | ttx: you should be able to do thta | 19:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | :D | 19:26 |
| olaph | I was just trying to show it - guess it's still behind mediawiki's bastion | 19:26 |
| ttx | I thought EVERYTHING was wikidriven at wikimedia :P | 19:26 |
| olaph | will paste.o.o handle a screenshot? | 19:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | it is for the most part ;) | 19:26 |
| jeblair | olaph: no, but you could put it on imgur | 19:27 |
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| clarkb | olaph: no, but imgur will | 19:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | olaph: does that link I sent not work? | 19:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | http://openstack-wiki-instance.pmtpa.wmflabs/wiki/Main_Page | 19:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | oh | 19:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | crap | 19:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | of course it won't | 19:27 |
| ttx | unless you registered some pretty neat toplevel lately | 19:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | let me give it a public IP | 19:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | hm. actually. let me just fix its redirects | 19:28 |
| Ryan_Lane | http://openstack-wiki-instance.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page | 19:28 |
| jeblair | Ryan_Lane: css is still at the wmflabs toplevel | 19:28 |
| fungi | i like it! very minimalist | 19:29 |
| jeblair | Ryan_Lane: (rather, load.php) | 19:29 |
| ttx | fungi: looks like your website :P | 19:29 |
| fungi | heh | 19:29 |
| * fungi likes console-based web browsers | 19:29 | |
| Ryan_Lane | ok, hit it now | 19:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | force-refresh, too | 19:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | I know it's working this time, I hit it from a browser that doesn't have a socks proxy configured :) | 19:31 |
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| jeblair | cool, so things i see real quick: | 19:31 |
| jeblair | we might want to use the vertial version of the logo so it's not as crowded | 19:31 |
| jeblair | footer needs styling | 19:32 |
| ttx | links are lighter than regular text, feels funny | 19:32 |
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| jeblair | and the links should either be red or blue; probably red. | 19:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | I mentioned to olaph that links shouldn't be red | 19:32 |
| jeblair | hehe | 19:32 |
| jeblair | so most of the openstack sites have red links | 19:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | red links mean something in mediawiki | 19:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | they mean "this is a link to a page that doesn't yet exist" | 19:32 |
| jeblair | on some of the CI systems that are just pages full of links, it makes your eyes bleed, so we changed them to blue | 19:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | blue links are links that exist | 19:33 |
| olaph | http://imgur.com/0DaRW | 19:33 |
| jeblair | so i think we could use mediawiki standard blue/red, but just use the openstack blue and red links | 19:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | olaph: heh. I got it working without the screencaps :) | 19:33 |
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| ttx | Sounds like a better logo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4c/OpenStack.png/170px-OpenStack.png | 19:33 |
| ttx | more vertical, square | 19:34 |
| jeblair | ttx: yeah, that's the one | 19:34 |
| jeblair | there should be one with a transparent bg | 19:34 |
| olaph | will we need all the navigation/toolbox links? | 19:34 |
| jeblair | ttx: http://www.openstack.org/assets/openstack-logo/openstack-cloud-software-vertical-small.png | 19:34 |
| jeblair | olaph: ^ the official version of that (and it does have a transparent bg, i just didn't know how to read that in FF) | 19:35 |
| ttx | also maybe ruse the same font for something as the one in openstack.org titles | 19:35 |
| ttx | reuse | 19:35 |
| jeblair | olaph: yeah, and i think they can probably be openstack-blue too. | 19:35 |
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| jeblair | ttx: that's a google-hosted woff font, so it'll take a bit more work... | 19:36 |
| olaph | roger that | 19:36 |
| ttx | ah ok, we can tweak that later | 19:36 |
| jeblair | olaph, Ryan_Lane: is it easy to add in a woff font? | 19:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | woff? | 19:36 |
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| fungi | maybe long-term the tab bar across the tops of articles could be redone like the menu bar on the other ostack sites too | 19:36 |
| jeblair | Ryan_Lane: css font-face | 19:36 |
| jeblair | Ryan_Lane: it's probably just some more css | 19:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | should be. can also use web fonts if the font doesn't exist in the browser | 19:36 |
| jeblair | Ryan_Lane: yeah, that's what this is | 19:37 |
| jeblair | ttx: I've been thinking we should actually host that ourselves; it'll be faster. but of course, we should get the website in our infra first. then that change will be easier to make. :) | 19:37 |
| ttx | I think if we fix the logo and the color of the links we are good to go... then we can make the top menu more openstack like and some fonts more openstack like in v2 | 19:37 |
| jeblair | ttx: +1 | 19:37 |
| fungi | sounds great | 19:38 |
| clarkb | works for me | 19:38 |
| ttx | (v2 can happen before cut-off, but won't block migration if ot doesn't) | 19:38 |
| jeblair | #action olaph to finish openstack skin | 19:38 |
| jeblair | olaph: you good? | 19:38 |
| ttx | (v1 of openstack skin | 19:38 |
| ttx | ) | 19:38 |
| olaph | jeblair: yup | 19:38 |
| jeblair | groovy | 19:38 |
| * ttx disappears | 19:38 | |
| jeblair | #topic rechecks | 19:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rechecks (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:38 | |
| ttx | ooh, sounds interesting | 19:38 |
| * ttx stays | 19:39 | |
| jeblair | #link http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/ | 19:39 |
| jeblair | quick recap: that page updates when you leave a comment like "recheck bug ####" | 19:39 |
| jeblair | we merged a change to zuul to allow configuration of the message left in gerrit, so that when changes fail, we can link right to the wiki page | 19:40 |
| jeblair | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritJenkinsGithub#Test_Failures | 19:40 |
| jeblair | ^ has updated documentation | 19:40 |
| uvirtbot | jeblair: Error: "has" is not a valid command. | 19:40 |
| jeblair | grumble. | 19:40 |
| jeblair | so the last thing is for me to write an announcement about that syntax; send it to the -dev list, and in a week, change the regex to require the new syntax | 19:41 |
| jeblair | i haven't written that yet, but i hope to do that RSN. | 19:41 |
| jeblair | any questions? | 19:42 |
| clarkb | sounds good to me | 19:43 |
| jeblair | #topic status page | 19:43 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "status page (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:43 | |
| jeblair | reviewday is now a project in gerrit | 19:44 |
| jeblair | but other than that, i don't think we've made progress on running it on static.o.o. shouldn't be too hard though. | 19:44 |
| jeblair | if anyone's eager for a smallish puppet project, that would be a good one. | 19:45 |
| jeblair | that's bug 1082785 | 19:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1082785 in openstack-ci "Import reviewday into OpenStack infrastructure" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1082785 | 19:45 |
| jeblair | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1082785 | 19:45 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1082785 in openstack-ci "Import reviewday into OpenStack infrastructure" [High,Triaged] | 19:45 |
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| pleia2 | I'll take a look at it | 19:46 |
| jeblair | pleia2: awesome! go ahead and grab that bug if you like then. | 19:47 |
| ttx | pleia2: heh, welcome :) | 19:47 |
| pleia2 | thanks :) | 19:47 |
| jeblair | cool, any other topics? | 19:48 |
| jeblair | #topic open discussion | 19:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:48 | |
| fungi | dprince might want to say something about rhel-based jenkins slaves? | 19:48 |
| clarkb | and in a related conversation our cloud providers now have quantal images | 19:48 |
| fungi | righteous | 19:48 |
| jeblair | yeah, i need to verify that branch can spin up oneiric/precise slaves still | 19:48 |
| jeblair | i sat down to do that last week and rackspace stopped working. | 19:49 |
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| jeblair | i'll try to do that this afternoon | 19:49 |
| dprince | fungi: I'm anxious to have the RHEL jenkins stuff merged! | 19:49 |
| jeblair | though the branch needs one update to get the ldap change | 19:49 |
| jeblair | sorry, this one: | 19:50 |
| jeblair | Add libsasl2-dev package to jenkins slaves. | 19:50 |
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| dprince | jeblair: you need me to add that? | 19:50 |
| jeblair | dprince: that would be great | 19:50 |
| dprince | jeblair: will do. | 19:50 |
| ttx | I'd suggest to change the meeting time but i can't find a good time. I'm out of california-compatible time slots | 19:50 |
| fungi | dprince: on rhel it'll be cyrus-sasl-devel | 19:51 |
| jeblair | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19716/ is also in the pipeline, but maybe we can procrastinate that until after the rhel changes land | 19:51 |
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| clarkb | I think we can procrastinate since dprince got in the queue first iirc | 19:51 |
| jeblair | ttx: :( you're around for the next meeting, right? | 19:51 |
| jeblair | ttx: i guess this is dinner time? | 19:51 |
| ttx | yes, it's eating half my dinner | 19:51 |
| ttx | in winter time | 19:52 |
| ttx | in summer time it just createes a LOOOONG meetings tunnel | 19:52 |
| ttx | 1700 UTC is when I usually care for the kids, so not so great either | 19:52 |
| clarkb | for quantal we will need to make sure puppet doesn't break to badly on it when running the slave manifests | 19:53 |
| fungi | any earlier than 1700 and the usa west-coasters will hate you | 19:53 |
| clarkb | and I some people have had trouble with quantal and devstack which may need sorting | 19:53 |
| ttx | fungi: yeah, if I had a good alternatives I would insist, but I haven't | 19:54 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, i think that's going to be a moderate sized project we'll need to start soon. | 19:54 |
| clarkb | jeblair: yeah it won't be something that gets done in an afternoon | 19:55 |
| jeblair | clarkb: we can start by adding some quantal slaves, and manually testing unit test jobs on them | 19:55 |
| jeblair | clarkb: previously, we've moved one project at a time to the new slave | 19:55 |
| jeblair | clarkb: and then maybe when that's done, or in parallel, tackle devstack | 19:56 |
| clarkb | jeblair: sounds good | 19:56 |
| jeblair | anything else? | 19:57 |
| fungi | nothing from me | 19:57 |
| jeblair | thanks everyone! | 19:58 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 19:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 19:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 15 19:58:05 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-01-15-19.04.html | 19:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-01-15-19.04.txt | 19:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2013/infra.2013-01-15-19.04.log.html | 19:58 |
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| ttx | (no TC meeting now) | 20:08 |
| ttx | (next meeting is the project/release status meeting in 52 min) | 20:08 |
| notmyname | ttx: I meant to send that email to just you. but anyway. FYI | 20:09 |
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| ttx | notmyname: got it, thx | 20:11 |
| ttx | notmyname: any idea when the milestone-proposed branch would be cut for 1.7.6 ? | 20:11 |
| ttx | (i.e. when you freeze for qa) | 20:11 |
| notmyname | there are a couple of important patches landing now (give or take 24 hours). later this week, I think. I just sent an email to the core devs about that. waiting on responses | 20:13 |
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| ttx | markmc, heckj, bcwaldon, jgriffith, vishy, gabrielhurley, danwent: around ? | 21:00 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: yepper | 21:00 |
| vishy | o/ | 21:00 |
| gabrielhurley | \o | 21:00 |
| markmc | reporting for duty | 21:00 |
| danwent | o/ | 21:00 |
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| jgriffith | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | ttx: here, if I can go soon | 21:00 |
| ttx | notmyname: ok you go first, let me start meeting | 21:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 15 21:01:14 2013 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:01 |
| ttx | Agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:01 |
| ttx | We'll spend most of our time looking at grizzly-3 plans and adjusting them so that they are reasonable | 21:01 |
| ttx | discussing swift first before notmyname disappears | 21:01 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:01 | |
| notmyname | thanks | 21:01 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.7.6 | 21:01 |
| notmyname | we're preparing for 1.7.6 | 21:02 |
| ttx | I saw you set a tentative date during your meeting last week, which I reflected on that milestone page | 21:02 |
| notmyname | things are looking good, and I think we're on track for next week | 21:02 |
| notmyname | I think we can cut a milestone-proposed branch later this week | 21:02 |
| ttx | sure, just keep me posted on when I can cut a milestone-proposed branch (when you have things frozen for QA) | 21:02 |
| notmyname | I'v also added a 1.8 milestone to target things against | 21:02 |
| notmyname | ttx: will do | 21:03 |
| ttx | sounds good | 21:03 |
| notmyname | swift meeting next week (not tomorrow) | 21:03 |
| notmyname | I think that's all I have | 21:03 |
| notmyname | questions? | 21:03 |
| ttx | no, that's all I had | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | thanks for letting me go first | 21:03 |
| ttx | no pb | 21:03 |
| ttx | #topic General announcements | 21:03 |
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| ttx | #info OpenStack Summit registration is open | 21:04 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 21:04 |
| ttx | If you had a contribution merged in Folsom or Grizzly, you should have received a free registration code | 21:04 |
| ttx | We'll issue new codes for late grizzly contributors around grizzly-3 milestone | 21:04 |
| ttx | so it's not too late, hint hint | 21:04 |
| ttx | markmc, mordred, annegentle, davidkranz: Anything from Stable/CI/QA/Docs teams ? | 21:05 |
| markmc | #info 2012.2.3 scheduled for January 31st, aiming for RC and slushy freeze on January 24th | 21:05 |
| markmc | we're behind on stable/folsom reviews | 21:05 |
| markmc | and there's probably a bunch of backports queued up waiting to be done | 21:05 |
| * markmc will poke people for help | 21:05 | |
| ttx | markmc: I'll see if I can devote a few cycles to that | 21:05 |
| markmc | ttx, thanks | 21:05 |
| davidkranz | ttx: We've got a lot of new contributors but nothing specific to report. | 21:06 |
| ttx | mordred, jeblair: anything from infra team ? | 21:06 |
| annegentle_itsme | o/ | 21:07 |
| ttx | annegentle_itsme: go ahead | 21:07 |
| annegentle_itsme | I'll send an email to the mailing list about progress on the wiki migration | 21:07 |
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| annegentle_itsme | basically hoping to synch up after a few more tasks are done and the CLA is solid | 21:07 |
| ttx | cool, cut off before the end of month I think ? | 21:07 |
| annegentle_itsme | ttx: sounds right | 21:08 |
| ttx | annegentle_itsme: anything else ? | 21:08 |
| annegentle_itsme | that's it | 21:08 |
| ttx | OK, let's move to project-specific topics then... | 21:08 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo status | 21:08 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:08 |
| markmc | pretty light on bps this time around | 21:08 |
| ttx | markmc: that plan looks very reasonable | 21:08 |
| markmc | wouldn't be surprised if more come in | 21:09 |
| markmc | I need to get on the oslo-config release asap | 21:09 |
| ttx | Should amqp-rpc-fast-reply-queue be added to the grizzly series goals ? | 21:09 |
| ttx | (it's only "proposed" at this point) | 21:09 |
| markmc | mostly about figuring out what the CI tasks are | 21:09 |
| markmc | ttx, hmm, most likely I screwed up - please fix | 21:09 |
| ttx | willdo | 21:09 |
| markmc | ah, I see .. proposed | 21:10 |
| markmc | common DB needs review help | 21:10 |
| ttx | You have four grizzly series blueprints without a milestone set: oslo-build, wsgi-common and no-kombu-default | 21:10 |
| ttx | and rpc-api-review | 21:10 |
| markmc | ah, good point | 21:10 |
| ttx | If you leave them there, they look like targets of opportunity rather than stated objectives | 21:10 |
| jeblair | o/ | 21:10 |
| markmc | I'll knock all them off grizzly | 21:10 |
| ttx | which is fine by me | 21:10 |
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| ttx | yes, if you already know some of them won't make it, or some of them are definitely targeting grizzly-3, you should adjust accordingly. | 21:10 |
| markmc | none of them really look like they'll happen in grizzly | 21:11 |
| markmc | good catch, thanks | 21:11 |
| ttx | Looking at your stuff marked essential... What's the ETA for oslo-config-package ? | 21:11 |
| ttx | next few weeks ? | 21:11 |
| markmc | yes, I'd hope so | 21:11 |
| ttx | ok then. Anything else on the oslo topic ? | 21:12 |
| markmc | #action markmc chase what needs doing by CI for oslo-config | 21:12 |
| markmc | nope, thanks | 21:12 |
| markmc | oh, wait | 21:12 |
| * ttx waits | 21:12 | |
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| markmc | wanted to mention monty's requirements thread | 21:12 |
| markmc | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-January/thread.html#4445 | 21:12 |
| markmc | not strictly oslo related | 21:12 |
| markmc | but it's important, cross-project, needs help :) | 21:13 |
| markmc | that's it | 21:13 |
| ttx | #info Please see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-January/thread.html#4445 about common requirements | 21:13 |
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| jeblair | the CI part of that should be very easy... | 21:13 |
| markmc | jeblair, awesome | 21:13 |
| jeblair | the biggest thing is getting a good starting point in the repo | 21:13 |
| ttx | jeblair: CI part of oslo-config-package ? | 21:13 |
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| ttx | OK, good, would like all Essential stuf cleared as early as possible | 21:14 |
| jeblair | ttx: the requirements repo. but that too, probably. :) | 21:14 |
| ttx | ha | 21:14 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:14 |
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| ttx | anyone from keystone ? Looks like we don't have heckj yet | 21:14 |
| dolphm | o/ sorta | 21:14 |
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| ttx | Hmm, let's wait a bit to give him more time, and you can sub for him if he doesn't show up in a few | 21:15 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:15 |
| dolphm | ttx: cool | 21:15 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: around ? | 21:15 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: yes | 21:15 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:15 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: Any idea who is going to work on glance-notifications-deux ? | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: back-loaded several blueprints :( | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: just had a conversation about that | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: seems like we may have someone | 21:16 |
| bcwaldon | will lock that down this week | 21:16 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: ok. My main concern actually are the 3 "essential" blueprints | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | mine as well | 21:17 |
| ttx | I think most of those are highly-desirable, but we /could/ release grizzly without them -- in which case "High" reflects the priority better ? | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | technically, yes | 21:17 |
| ttx | could we move some of them to High to reflect that ? I would sleep better at nights | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | I would keep image-sharing as essential | 21:17 |
| ttx | agreed | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | the other two, I am still confident about, to be clear | 21:17 |
| ttx | since it's finalizing the apiv2 | 21:17 |
| bcwaldon | yes | 21:17 |
| ttx | I think the other two wouldn't delay the release if not complete, to be clear | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | agree | 21:18 |
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| ttx | so "High" is good, really top priority, but not blocking | 21:18 |
| bcwaldon | fine by me | 21:18 |
| ttx | will adjust | 21:18 |
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| ttx | My second concern is the number of blueprints targeted compared to the weight that was pulled in previous grizzly milestones | 21:19 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: will you and markwash have more time to throw at Glance in the coming month ? Or should we further cut down the number of objectives ? | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | completely understandable concerns | 21:19 |
| bcwaldon | we will have much more time during this milestone, for sure | 21:19 |
| ttx | the load is pretty spread between assignees.. I think it's more the review / pushing assignees part that's lacking | 21:20 |
| ttx | than pure development time | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: so you're blaming me, I see how it is | 21:20 |
| bcwaldon | which is totally fair :) | 21:20 |
| ttx | no, my point is that it's the part that requires regular attention that causes the most problems as to be expected | 21:21 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: if you don't see commitment pick up over the next week, you can personally punch markwash | 21:21 |
| gabrielhurley | way to man up, bcwaldon | 21:21 |
| ttx | OK, let's go with 6 blueprints and see how it goes | 21:21 |
| bcwaldon | okie dokie | 21:22 |
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| ttx | but we'll cut down the objectives at mid-milestone if we see it's going in the same direction as g2 ;) | 21:22 |
| ttx | Last remark, there is atmos-storage-adapter planned for grizzly but without a milestone set, do you know when that's supposed to land ? | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: doubt it will land - the code showed up too late for folsom so it couldn't land | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | got pushed to grizzly, yet I haven't heard back from the original author | 21:22 |
| bcwaldon | I can reach out | 21:22 |
| ttx | ok, of it lands by miracle we can always add it back | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | sure | 21:23 |
| ttx | I'll just un-series-set it, might trigger a response from assignee :) | 21:23 |
| ttx | Anything more on Glance ? | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | not from me! | 21:23 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: thanks! | 21:23 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:23 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: no, thank you | 21:23 |
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| ttx | danwent: hi! | 21:24 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:24 |
| danwent | hi | 21:24 |
| danwent | lots of BPs :) | 21:24 |
| ttx | You have a large number of blueprints that are targeted to grizzly-3 but not confirmed in the grizzly series goal (11) | 21:24 |
| danwent | but only a few are high, non are essential | 21:24 |
| danwent | ttx: i cleaned several up this morning | 21:24 |
| ttx | unless you accepted them recently... | 21:24 |
| danwent | i thought your script was running clean. | 21:24 |
| ttx | arh. | 21:25 |
| ttx | you got me | 21:25 |
| ttx | Anyway, some of them look like they could be merged in a single blueprint | 21:25 |
| danwent | sorry, yeah, did that late | 21:25 |
| jeblair | ttx: [quantum devstack gating if you have a sec] | 21:25 |
| ttx | but you did that as well | 21:25 |
| danwent | ttx: i eliminated a couple, and asked to combine two into one | 21:25 |
| ttx | Anyway, yes, that's a pretty large set of blueprints | 21:25 |
| ttx | I think you can succeed if you get all the code under review merged ASAP and start to focus on the rest early ? | 21:26 |
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| danwent | the way i see it is that we'll get our 4 'high' blueprints, as i'll focus the team on those. of the medium priority blueprints, those already in code review stand a good chance of making it, those that are not started will only make it if someone is really driving them. | 21:26 |
| danwent | interestingly, no one is super overloaded this milestone, its just a lot of new people signing up for BPs. | 21:27 |
| danwent | so its hard to tell which of the medium blueprints will make it ahead of time. | 21:27 |
| ttx | ok, that works | 21:27 |
| ttx | Would also be good to review the set of grizzly blueprints that don't have a milestone set at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/quantum/grizzly | 21:27 |
| ttx | (same remark as the other projects) | 21:27 |
| ttx | There are 15 of them, and I'm pretty sure you know some of them that won't make it and should be removed from the series goal | 21:27 |
| danwent | ttx: good point, will do | 21:27 |
| ttx | Others can be kept as "targets of opportunity", time permitting. | 21:27 |
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| danwent | agreed. | 21:28 |
| ttx | but somehow I doubt there will be that many :) | 21:28 |
| danwent | yeah, seems to work our that way, huh? :) | 21:28 |
| ttx | jeblair: quantum devstack gating ? | 21:28 |
| jeblair | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19724/ | 21:28 |
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| danwent | jeblair: yup, i gave my +1 to that earlier | 21:28 |
| jeblair | Nachi did some analysis of failures of quantum and non-quantum devstack-gate runs | 21:28 |
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| jeblair | that review addresses the largent difference in failures between them | 21:29 |
| jeblair | i think after that's in, we should be able to enable quantum gating | 21:29 |
| jeblair | which will affect all the projects gated on devstack-gate, of course | 21:29 |
| ttx | yay, more tests | 21:29 |
| danwent | jeblair: that's great. we've been wanting this for a LONG time :) | 21:29 |
| jeblair | yes, indeed! | 21:29 |
| danwent | jeblair: thanks for all you help on this | 21:29 |
| danwent | and thanks to nachi (who doesn't seem to be online right now) | 21:30 |
| ttx | Anything else on Quantum ? | 21:30 |
| danwent | not today | 21:30 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder status | 21:30 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: hi! | 21:30 |
| jgriffith | Hey there | 21:30 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:30 |
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| ttx | jgriffith: Who is going to work on quotas-limits-by-voltype ? | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | ttx: will likely be me | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | updated | 21:31 |
| ttx | thx | 21:31 |
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| ttx | You have 4 blueprints that were targeted to g3 but not approved in the series goal (or prioritized) yet | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | ttx: Yeah... you caught me | 21:31 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'm working through things as we speak | 21:32 |
| ttx | You should review them and set series goal / priority for those you accept (remove target milestone for those you don't) | 21:32 |
| ttx | Last remark about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/del-vols-with-snaps | 21:32 |
| ttx | It's accepted in grizzly series goal... is that still an objective ? | 21:32 |
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| jgriffith | I would like to remove it TBH but I wanted to catch vishy before doing so | 21:33 |
| ttx | good thing he is around :) | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | I'll update after talking through tha tlater | 21:33 |
| vishy | looking | 21:33 |
| jgriffith | I'll yield, I'm just pretty indifferent on the whole thing | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | vishy: the reason I mentioned checkign with you... | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | vishy: There's a bug of the same topic that you logged a while back | 21:35 |
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| jgriffith | https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/970409 | 21:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 970409 in nova "Deleting volumes with snapshots should be allowed for some backends" [Low,Triaged] | 21:35 |
| vishy | jgriffith: I think I was filing that on behalf of others | 21:36 |
| vishy | so it isn't really that important to me | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | vishy: K | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | vishy: I'll give it some more thought and decide later today | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | thanks | 21:36 |
| ttx | OK, anything more in Cinder ? | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | Not from me | 21:37 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:37 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:37 |
| vishy | oh hai! | 21:37 |
| ttx | vishy: yay, 46 blueprints | 21:37 |
| vishy | should be cake! | 21:37 |
| ttx | My main concern here is that the review effort to merge all the targeted low-prio stuff distracts us from getting the important stuff done and merged | 21:37 |
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| ttx | so i wonder if we can afford looking in 46 directions at the same time | 21:38 |
| ttx | vishy: what do you think ? Worth a try ? | 21:38 |
| comstud | 2 eyes per person.. only need 23 people | 21:38 |
| vishy | ttx: well I think some of those need to be cleaned out | 21:38 |
| russellb | progress is so bleak on a bunch of those | 21:38 |
| vishy | because they stalled | 21:38 |
| russellb | yeah, i think some initial cleaning will remove a bunch | 21:38 |
| vishy | and just got moved through the milestones | 21:38 |
| ttx | ok, could you clean up the objectives at the next Nova meeting ? | 21:39 |
| ttx | you can keep the "maybe" stuff in the grizzly series without a milestone set, I guess | 21:39 |
| ttx | vishy: What's the ETA of backportable-db-migrations ? You know essential stuff in last milestones keep me awake at nights | 21:40 |
| vishy | ttx: that is just something that goes in right at the end | 21:40 |
| vishy | ttx: we discussed last summit making 10 blank db migrations | 21:41 |
| russellb | the big range of extra migration numbers? | 21:41 |
| vishy | so that we can backport stuff if necessary | 21:41 |
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| vishy | so there isn't any real work to be done there | 21:41 |
| ttx | oh. ok | 21:41 |
| ttx | a few random remarks then... | 21:41 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cpu-entitlement is targeted to g3 but not in grizzly series | 21:42 |
| ttx | Same for recently-added https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/multi-tenancy-aggregates | 21:42 |
| ttx | worth reviewing in the same grizzly-3 check meeting | 21:42 |
| ttx | If you keep them, set series goal and a priority | 21:42 |
| ttx | You also have 21 blueprints in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/grizzly that have no milestone set | 21:42 |
| ttx | Would be good to look into them and remove grizzly goal (or set milestone) for those you know won't make it | 21:43 |
| ttx | (or will) | 21:43 |
| ttx | For example xenapi-config-drive and nova-direct-image-upload look like they are being worked on | 21:43 |
| vishy | ttx: ok will look through those | 21:43 |
| ttx | at some point in milestone we might uise priority to prioritize the review effort, so also check that priorities reflect that | 21:44 |
| ttx | Any question on Nova ? | 21:45 |
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| ttx | russellb: you add that G3 objectives review topic to the Nova meeting agenda ? | 21:45 |
| russellb | yes i'll add it to the agenda | 21:45 |
| ttx | russellb: awesome, thx | 21:46 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:46 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: hey | 21:46 |
| gabrielhurley | yo | 21:46 |
| russellb | but i may miss the meeting, have a flight that lands 15 minutes before the meeting ... will try to join from airport | 21:46 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:46 |
| ttx | vishy: you will be there, right ? | 21:46 |
| vishy | ttx: yes | 21:46 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: 12 blueprints, OI see you removed a few :) | 21:47 |
| ttx | vishy: thx | 21:47 |
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| gabrielhurley | the Horizon team meeting last week was really good. I got clarity on all the blueprints that were in G3, and everything that's still there has an assignee who has actively committed to it. It's more than the last milestone, but if a couple slip that'll be okay. | 21:47 |
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| gabrielhurley | and yeah, anything that was blocked or hesitant I just bumped out | 21:47 |
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| ttx | quantum-floating-ip depends on query-service-capabilities, which is not targeted or assigned... does that mean it's unlikely to make it ? | 21:47 |
| gabrielhurley | does it now... | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | that link should probably be severed | 21:48 |
| ttx | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/query-service-capabilities | 21:48 |
| ttx | that would fix it | 21:48 |
| gabrielhurley | I think that was more of a "it would be better to implement this way" more than an "it must be implemented this way" | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | and the feature being in Grizzly to support Quantum is more important than the larger sense of right-ness | 21:49 |
| ttx | ok, then remove link and just mention it in whiteboard | 21:49 |
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| ttx | quantum-vnic-ordering (Medium) depends on orderable-mutiple-choice-field (Low prio) -- should I raise prio for the latter ? | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah | 21:49 |
| ttx | willdo | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | thanks | 21:50 |
| ttx | Finally... inline-table-editing is accepted for grizzly but with no milestone set. Should it be kept that way, as a target of opportunity ? | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | I fixed the dependency on the other one | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | ah, no that's bumped out | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | just didn't get fully unset | 21:50 |
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| ttx | ok will unset series goal as well | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | again, thanks | 21:50 |
| ttx | so that it doesn't clog views | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah | 21:50 |
| ttx | Anything more on Horizon ? | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | not this week | 21:50 |
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| ttx | ok then, no heckj still | 21:51 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:51 |
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| ttx | dolphm: around ? | 21:51 |
| dolphm | ttx: o/ | 21:51 |
| ttx | you just got promoted | 21:51 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:51 |
| ttx | Looks reasonable too, although it assumes a faster velocity than what you achieved in the first two milestones... | 21:52 |
| dolphm | guang-yee has a pretty heavily load | 21:52 |
| dolphm | as his bp assignments encompass v3 authentication entirely | 21:52 |
| dolphm | so myself and henrynash will be providing him quite a bit of support | 21:53 |
| ttx | sounds good | 21:53 |
| ttx | dolphm: you have two blueprints in the grizzly series taht are not targeted to any milestone | 21:53 |
| ttx | domain-role-assignment | 21:53 |
| ttx | default-domain | 21:53 |
| ttx | Do you know when that's supposed to land ? | 21:53 |
| dolphm | ttx: i just created one today, default-domain... i think that's essential to v3 utility in grizzly | 21:53 |
| dolphm | ttx: default-domain is my top priority at the moment | 21:53 |
| ttx | ok, so it should get added to grizzly-3 milestone target ? | 21:54 |
| dolphm | it's been under discussion for quite a bit amongst core contribs | 21:54 |
| dolphm | ttx: yes | 21:54 |
| ttx | ok willdo | 21:54 |
| dolphm | ttx: domain role assignment is also essentially done, it was mostly a spec change that has already landed | 21:54 |
| ttx | so both should be in g3 ? | 21:54 |
| dolphm | ttx: yes | 21:54 |
| ttx | ok, will push them, adjust status for them to match | 21:55 |
| ttx | Anything more about Keystone ? | 21:55 |
| dolphm | ttx: that sounds like it to me | 21:55 |
| ttx | what status should domain-role-assignment have ? | 21:56 |
| ttx | beta available, needs code review or implemented ? | 21:56 |
| dolphm | ttx: i'm checking on that now, i'll let you know after the meeting | 21:56 |
| ttx | sure | 21:56 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects | 21:57 |
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| ttx | Anyone from Ceilometer team ? | 21:57 |
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| ttx | #action dolphm to update status for domain-role-assignment | 21:57 |
| ttx | Anyone from Heat team ? | 21:57 |
| stevebaker | y | 21:57 |
| sdake | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/grizzly-3 | 21:57 |
| sdake | our main focus for g3 is fixing bugs | 21:57 |
| ttx | Two issues reported by ttx.py: | 21:57 |
| ttx | aws-cloudformation-init has unknown status | 21:57 |
| ttx | resource-properties-schema has unknown status and no priority | 21:58 |
| ttx | otherwise looks pretty conservative | 21:58 |
| sdake | i'll correct those on our wednesday meeting | 21:58 |
| ttx | fixing bugs is good | 21:58 |
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| ttx | So that plan reflects all your grizzly-3 objectives ? | 21:58 |
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| stevebaker | is it common to maintain a grizzly branch to build packages from? | 21:58 |
| sdake | a few people have asked for more blueprints for specific items, but i've asked they wait until h to implement | 21:58 |
| sdake | would like our g to work properly first, features second ;) | 21:59 |
| sdake | going to open gates on h-1 for blueprints | 21:59 |
| ttx | ok | 22:00 |
| sdake | so yes, all objectives unless new bugs open | 22:00 |
| ttx | no more time left, anyone from Ceilometer team ? | 22:00 |
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| ttx | For the record, https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/grizzly-3 looks good | 22:00 |
| ttx | ceilometer crew should probably review the 28 blueprints you have with series goal = grizzly | 22:00 |
| ttx | And remove the series goal for those which won't make it | 22:00 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 15 22:00:56 2013 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-01-15-21.01.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-01-15-21.01.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2013/project.2013-01-15-21.01.log.html | 22:01 |
| ttx | Thansk everyone | 22:01 |
| ttx | Thanks, even | 22:01 |
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| gabrielhurley | okay, Horizon meeting... | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | #startmeeting horizon | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 15 22:02:20 2013 UTC. The chair is gabrielhurley. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'horizon' | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | quick one today as far as I know | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic General STatus | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "General STatus (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:02 | |
| gabrielhurley | Nothing new to report since last week, really. Reviews have been happening, the G3 milestone is well-planned after our meeting last week. | 22:03 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic Blueprints and Bugs | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints and Bugs (Meeting topic: horizon)" | 22:03 | |
| gabrielhurley | I bumped out the two blocked blueprints (Enforce RBAC from Keystone, and PKI offline validation) | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | err | 22:04 |
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| gabrielhurley | the other blocked one was actually the Evacuate Host | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | but I bumped PKI offline validation 'cuz adam didn't seem confident on completing it | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | so same net result | 22:04 |
| gabrielhurley | bugs have been getting fixed, overall bug count has continued to go down instead of up, so that's great | 22:05 |
| kspear | hi Gabriel. Is it too late to add blueprints for G3? | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | kspear: not if you want to do the work | 22:05 |
| gabrielhurley | what did you want to file? | 22:05 |
| kspear | there's a couple i have | 22:06 |
| kspear | one was https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/add-security-group-to-instance | 22:06 |
| gabrielhurley | ah yes, that'd be great | 22:06 |
| mrunge | yes, sounds nice | 22:06 |
| kspear | and one i've just got around to creating | 22:06 |
| kspear | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/organised-images-display | 22:06 |
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| gabrielhurley | sounds good. I'd like to see a proposal on how the UX there would work, but generally agreed | 22:08 |
| kspear | yeah, sure | 22:08 |
| gabrielhurley | I think most people's plates are pretty full for G3 so would you be willing to work on those two? If so I'll accept them both into G3 and assign them to you. | 22:08 |
| kspear | yeah i'm fairly confident i'll have them both done | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | great | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | will do | 22:09 |
| kspear | it's quite important for us | 22:09 |
| kspear | thanks | 22:09 |
| gabrielhurley | man, launchpad has sooooo many fields to fill in | 22:10 |
| kspear | haha, sorry to ruin the flow of the meeting | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | no worries | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | totally worth it to get more stuff in :-) | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | they're all assigned and approved now | 22:11 |
| kspear | great | 22:11 |
| gabrielhurley | cool. one last note on bugs | 22:11 |
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| gabrielhurley | I just want to remind folks that they should file bugs in launchpad before submitting gerrit reviews for patches. It both allows us to track what was done/fixed in a release, and also makes sure nothing escapes being properly reviewed/triaged | 22:12 |
| gabrielhurley | I get lazy about it sometimes too, but it's the right thing to do | 22:12 |
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| gabrielhurley | that's about all I've got though, so I'll open it up | 22:12 |
| gabrielhurley | #topic General Discussion | 22:12 |
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| gabrielhurley | have at it! | 22:13 |
| mrunge | gabriel, there are quite a few backports for folsom | 22:13 |
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| mrunge | how do we get them in? | 22:13 |
| gabrielhurley | Backports need extra-thorough review | 22:14 |
| mrunge | yes, I'm aware of that | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | it helps if people can try them out against a stable/folsom devstack and apply the patch to make sure it's exactly right | 22:14 |
| mrunge | and there's a separate group of reviewers | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | only myself or someone from the stable maintenance team can actually approve them though | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | other people can +1 | 22:14 |
| gabrielhurley | which is helpful | 22:15 |
| mrunge | yes | 22:15 |
| mrunge | imho, many of the backports have at least one +1 | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | I can go through them and try to clear them out | 22:15 |
| mrunge | that would be very nice! | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | they're slower just 'cuz the burden of testing and the penalty of getting something wrong is much higher | 22:15 |
| mrunge | of course | 22:15 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll do that before the next meeting, though | 22:16 |
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| mrunge | great, thank you! | 22:16 |
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| jpich | Lots of those Folsom patches's launchpad bugs also don't have the "Also affects folsom series" field set, which would be nice for tracking and linking with gerrit. I'd be happy to set it and keep track of backports that way, if I had the rights to set that field (need to be part of the bug supervisor team?) | 22:17 |
| gabrielhurley | good point | 22:18 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll see about adding you to that team | 22:18 |
| * gabrielhurley dislikes launchpad | 22:18 | |
| jpich | Thanks :) | 22:18 |
| mrunge | nice! | 22:19 |
| jpich | We may have to ask Devin - https://launchpad.net/~horizon-bugs/+members#active | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | no, I don't think it's that one | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | I forget which group actually controls it | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll look into it | 22:19 |
| jpich | Ah, that would explain the short list :) | 22:19 |
| jpich | Thanks! | 22:19 |
| gabrielhurley | #action gabriel to figure out which launchpad group allows bug edit permissions | 22:19 |
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| lifeless | gabrielhurley: which project ? | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | anything else? | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | horizon | 22:20 |
| lifeless | gabrielhurley: https://launchpad.net/~horizon-bugs | 22:20 |
| gabrielhurley | nope | 22:21 |
| lifeless | huh | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | 'cuz I and several other folks have that permission | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | and we're not in that group | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | that group is dead | 22:21 |
| lifeless | gabrielhurley: you may be in https://launchpad.net/~openstack-admins | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll figure it out | 22:21 |
| lifeless | gabrielhurley: which also has it, transitively | 22:21 |
| lifeless | gabrielhurley: ok | 22:21 |
| gabrielhurley | I'll investigate today | 22:22 |
| lifeless | https://launchpad.net/~horizon-drivers is the other team that would get it | 22:22 |
| lifeless | (triage is inherited from two roles) | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | gotcha | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | it's probably that one | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | that sounds familiar | 22:23 |
| gabrielhurley | okay, last call for topics | 22:24 |
| gabrielhurley | alright folks. that'll be it for today. have a great week! | 22:25 |
| jpich | Thanks. You too! | 22:25 |
| mrunge | thanks, same to you! | 22:25 |
| gabrielhurley | #endmeeting | 22:25 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/horizon/2013/horizon.2013-01-15-22.02.html | 22:25 |
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