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| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 27 16:01:32 2012 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | hi all | 16:01 |
| EmilienM_ | primeministerp: hi | 16:01 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM_: how are things | 16:01 |
| EmilienM_ | primeministerp: fine, thx | 16:02 |
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| primeministerp | figure we'd start with a status update from the different folks | 16:02 |
| primeministerp | #topic updates | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "updates (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:02 | |
| primeministerp | cloud-init | 16:03 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: : would like to give an update on the status of the cloud-init code | 16:03 |
| alexpilotti | hi guys! | 16:04 |
| alexpilotti | after doing cloud-init for Linux, we moved to cloud-init for Windows | 16:04 |
| alexpilotti | we worked on public key atuthentication for Windows, but unfortunately there still a blocking issue there, I'm waiting an answer from MS for that. | 16:05 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: all the code for hyper-v support of linux guests in upstream though correct | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | beside that, we are porting the Python cloud-init to Windows | 16:05 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i'll follow up again in a day if i don't hear back from anyone | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | as it's quite modular | 16:05 |
| alexpilotti | which means that we can treat wWindows as any other "Linux distro" in cloud-init ;-) | 16:06 |
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| alexpilotti | the big issue there, is that configdrive | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: we prefer just "distro" | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 16:06 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: lol | 16:06 |
| josecastroleon | hi all :) | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | hey josecastroleon | 16:06 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: would you like to give a status of the cinder work | 16:07 |
| pnavarro | sure | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | the "big" issue with ConfigDrive is that it mounts a ISO image as a raw physical disk | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: you can wait unitl alexpilotti is done | 16:07 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: I thought he was | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | so, we pull it out with raw Win32 Api calls | 16:07 |
| pnavarro | no problem | 16:07 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: sorry | 16:07 |
| alexpilotti | and that's done, I expect teh full cloud-init for Windows to be done this week | 16:08 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: execellent | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | for authentication, we'll inject the adminpass | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | teh one passed by nova boot, waiting for those answers from MS | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | for the SSH publick key auth in RDP | 16:08 |
| alexpilotti | but all the rest, including networking, script execution etc is not an issue | 16:09 |
| alexpilotti | that's it :-) | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | nice | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | thx | 16:09 |
| pnavarro | ok, from my side | 16:09 |
| pnavarro | nova_to_cinder code is review process #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16843/ | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | awesome | 16:09 |
| pnavarro | thanks to alexpilotti and EmilienM_ for helping to set my live migraiton environment | 16:09 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: does that include the move to the wmiv2? | 16:10 |
| pnavarro | yes, primeministerp | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | perfecto! | 16:10 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM_: thanks for helping out! | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: is the above link updated? | 16:10 |
| EmilienM_ | primeministerp: yw :) thank's to Pedro too | 16:10 |
| pnavarro | the review is blocked until this night I'll have some time to fix some issues | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: I see a pylynt error: http://logs.openstack.org/16843/4/check/gate-nova-pylint/3593/console.html.gz | 16:10 |
| alexpilotti | nova/virt/hyperv/volumeutils.py:46: [E1101, VolumeUtils.execute] Module 'eventlet.green.subprocess' has no 'STDOUT' member | 16:11 |
| pnavarro | I'll fix that later, today I was a bit busy | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: yep i see that too | 16:11 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: np | 16:11 |
| pnavarro | alexpilotti: I can't fix that, nova.utils is using the same syntax | 16:12 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: that's interesting :-) | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | i'm missing something? | 16:13 |
| pnavarro | alexpilotti: yeah.. very interesting | 16:13 |
| primeministerp | so what's broken | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | something in pylint | 16:14 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: I'm going to take a look at this | 16:14 |
| pnavarro | thanks alexpilotti | 16:14 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:15 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: add: # pylint: disable=E1101 | 16:15 |
| pnavarro | ok | 16:16 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: look here, line 186 https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/utils.py | 16:16 |
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| alexpilotti | pnavarro: just 2 lines above my patch :-D | 16:16 |
| pnavarro | alexpilotti: ok ! I didn't realize about that | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | awesome | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | realtime even | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: quantum update? | 16:17 |
| primeministerp | or ociuhandu rdp? | 16:17 |
| alexpilotti | working on it, confirmed release for G-2. Wil need to sync with Pedro this week :-) | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | sound good | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: want to discuss anything on rdp? | 16:18 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: i'm now looking into the ways to pass the required parameters to wsgate | 16:18 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | josecastroleon: anything to add from CERN? | 16:19 |
| alexpilotti | luis_fdez: thnks for the CPU patch! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16796/ | 16:19 |
| primeministerp | o yes | 16:19 |
| josecastroleon | sure | 16:19 |
| josecastroleon | plenty of things | 16:20 |
| primeministerp | thanks luis_fdez | 16:20 |
| luis_fdez | alexpilotti: :) ... | 16:20 |
| pnavarro | CERN guys, will you assist to openstack Paris event next thursday? | 16:20 |
| josecastroleon | Jan is going there | 16:20 |
| josecastroleon | I saw that AD patch is committed in G-1 | 16:20 |
| pnavarro | ok | 16:20 |
| josecastroleon | we have just found a problem on LDAP when the output is more than 1k | 16:21 |
| pnavarro | EmilienM_ will be talking about quantum, let's see if I can convince him to add some slide about Hyper-V | 16:21 |
| EmilienM_ | pnavarro: ahah | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | EmilienM_: you shoud | 16:21 |
| alexpilotti | josecastroleon: I love your scalability test environment ;-) | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | er should | 16:21 |
| josecastroleon | cool | 16:21 |
| EmilienM_ | ok | 16:21 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: which one is that? | 16:21 |
| ociuhandu | sorry guys, have to run now, will be back online a bit later. Have a great one | 16:21 |
| josecastroleon | my fault | 16:21 |
| EmilienM_ | let's continue the conversation on #openstack-hyper-v after meeting | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: ok thx | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: CERN itself :-D | 16:22 |
| EmilienM_ | to define the content | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | haha | 16:22 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: when would you like to meet for Quantum? | 16:22 |
| primeministerp | josecastroleon: were the ad patches for rold/tenant id mapping? | 16:22 |
| josecastroleon | no we have more than 2600 VMs on the test environment | 16:23 |
| pnavarro | what about tomorrow night? | 16:23 |
| EmilienM_ | josecastroleon: wow | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | josecastroleon: cool! :-) | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | josecastroleon: what VM density do you have on Hyper-V? | 16:23 |
| pnavarro | alexpilotti: I'll send you a meeting request later | 16:23 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: ok! | 16:24 |
| sagar_nikam | josecastroleon:how many WIndows 2012 | 16:24 |
| josecastroleon | we have only a few | 16:24 |
| josecastroleon | not so many | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | josecastroleon: are the hyper-v nodes integrated in w /the rest? | 16:24 |
| josecastroleon | linux guys have overtaken us | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | josecastroleon: would you be interested in helping with the tests of Cloud-init for Windows? | 16:24 |
| josecastroleon | sure | 16:24 |
| primeministerp | josecastroleon: hahah | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | josecastroleon: tx! | 16:24 |
| alexpilotti | josecastroleon: here's the solution to fight back: run this on their controller: nova list | awk '{if (NR > 3 && $2 != "") {system("nova delete " $2);}}' :-D | 16:25 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:26 |
| josecastroleon | ups | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | anything else on updates? | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | want to move to ci discussion | 16:26 |
| alexpilotti | ok | 16:26 |
| primeministerp | #topic ci discussion | 16:27 |
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| primeministerp | mordred: ping | 16:27 |
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| primeministerp | jeblair: ping | 16:27 |
| primeministerp | was hoping to get some involvement from the ci guys | 16:28 |
| jeblair | primeministerp: hi, i'm dealing with an operational issue at the moment | 16:28 |
| alexpilotti | jeblair: hi! | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: np was hoping to get some input/insight into the ci bits | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: we're looking to stand up a replica next week | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: on real hardware | 16:28 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: tied into zuul | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | then start integrating in hyper-v nodes | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | and commiting that upstream | 16:29 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: i was looking at the existing openstack-ci project and it looks like it's been refactored out into different sub projects | 16:29 |
| jeblair | primeministerp: great, i think you were planning on commenting as a third-party tester, like: http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: I there somewhere where I can find the puppetmaster manifests being used, o | 16:30 |
| pnavarro | guys, I have to go | 16:30 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: bye!! | 16:30 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: yes, however I'm going to have to spin up an existing setup first | 16:30 |
| mordred | primeministerp: hey | 16:30 |
| jeblair | primeministerp: everything is in http://github.com/openstack/openstack-ci-puppet | 16:30 |
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| primeministerp | ahh | 16:31 |
| jeblair | primeministerp: there should be modules in there you can use to manage zuul servers, jenkins, etc... | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | that's there it moved too | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:31 |
| jeblair | primeministerp: (hasn't moved) | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | so our plan is to use that and spin up a replica | 16:31 |
| mordred | ++ | 16:31 |
| primeministerp | hook the replica into the event stream | 16:31 |
| jeblair | (i'm going to turn this over to mordred, so i can get back to tracking down the issue we're having, sorry) | 16:32 |
| mordred | primeministerp: I'm slammed today, but will be more than happy to spend some quality time with you tomorrow or next week walking through things | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: that's exactly what we are going to do | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: i've started manifiests to build all the deployments bits for windows | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: we doing it from iron | 16:32 |
| mordred | neat | 16:32 |
| primeministerp | jeblair: however i'll need a windows vm to build all rest | 16:32 |
| alexpilotti | mordred: next week me and ociuhandu will be in Cambridge with primeministerp setting up the CI thing | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | have to figure how to make it easiest to inegrate windows in | 16:33 |
| mordred | devananda, lifeless: ^^ you and primeministerp should talk - he's spinning up bare metal testing for hyper-v/windows | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | er integrate | 16:33 |
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| primeministerp | gah | 16:33 |
| mordred | alexpilotti: awesome | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | stuck key | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | ok | 16:33 |
| alexpilotti | mordred: do you think we could set up a meeting this week? | 16:33 |
| devananda | ooh | 16:33 |
| mordred | alexpilotti, primeministerp: please. how about thursday some time | 16:33 |
| primeministerp | devananda: i'm doing this windows | 16:34 |
| mordred | and between now and then you should set up a time to talk to devananda and lifeless | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | devananda: er on | 16:34 |
| mordred | because it might influence things | 16:34 |
| devananda | so i will be on a plane thursday | 16:34 |
| alexpilotti | mordred: for me np anytime on Thu | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | devananda: tomorrow? | 16:34 |
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| primeministerp | so | 16:34 |
| primeministerp | mordred: we have 11 hp mach 1 nodes | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | mordred: and 6 dell blades | 16:35 |
| mordred | primeministerp, alexpilotti: we can meet up separate from deva ... | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | mordred: yes please | 16:35 |
| alexpilotti | mordred: ok | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | mordred: want to talk logistics | 16:35 |
| primeministerp | mordred: you have time later today or tomorrow? | 16:36 |
| mordred | I've got to walk out the door - you pick a time tomorroow or thursday for us to talk (I'm wide open) and I'll be there | 16:36 |
| devananda | primeministerp: fwiw, i dont begin to understand windows server. but i can talk about the nova baremetal driver :) | 16:36 |
| mordred | today is a TERRIBLE day for me :) | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | devananda: you don't need to, i just need to be able to chainload a pxe from pxelinux | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | devananda: or understand how to fit it into your plans | 16:36 |
| primeministerp | devananda: will you have time tomorrow? | 16:36 |
| mordred | chat in a bit... | 16:37 |
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| devananda | hm. somethin i think chainload is the wrong thing. nobodycam and lifeless both have more opinion and knowledge on that layer than I | 16:37 |
| devananda | but yes, i can probably squeeze in some time tmw | 16:37 |
| primeministerp | devananda: do you want want to start a thread w/ the appropriate parties? | 16:38 |
| primeministerp | devananda: ppouliot@microsoft.com | 16:38 |
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| devananda | ack | 16:38 |
| devananda | this might also give you some context: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11088/ | 16:38 |
| primeministerp | perfect | 16:38 |
| josecastroleon | i will come in 5 minutes | 16:38 |
| devananda | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/15830/ | 16:38 |
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| primeministerp | devananda: are you pulling bare metal instances from glance? | 16:39 |
| devananda | primeministerp: yes | 16:39 |
| EmilienM_ | see you guys, ++ | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | devananda: I get it | 16:39 |
| alexpilotti | EmilienM_: bye! | 16:39 |
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| devananda | primeministerp: there is separate "deploy ramdisk" which does the partitioning and writes teh imge to disk | 16:39 |
| primeministerp | devananda: yep | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | devananda: there would have to be | 16:40 |
| devananda | (it's presently a bit more complex but we are working on simplifiyng) | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | devananda: i have a lot of ideas around this | 16:40 |
| devananda | great | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | devananda: ayoung and I have been talking on and off for months | 16:40 |
| primeministerp | devananda: i'm open tomorrow so if you want to schedule i'll attend | 16:41 |
| primeministerp | and include the individuals from your side to discuss | 16:41 |
| primeministerp | devananda: thanks again | 16:41 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: I'll follow up w/ monty | 16:42 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: ok | 16:42 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: also going to start looking at those modules | 16:42 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: ok, ping me anytime if you need help! | 16:42 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i'll circle back w/ monty later today and schedule something for tomorrow as well | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | ok if that's i'm ending the meeting | 16:43 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 27 16:43:50 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-11-27-16.01.html | 16:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-11-27-16.01.txt | 16:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-11-27-16.01.log.html | 16:43 |
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| henrynash | keystone meeting time? | 18:03 |
| dolphm | o/ | 18:03 |
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| gyee | \o | 18:03 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: any word from heckj today? | 18:07 |
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| gyee | stuck in traffic? :) | 18:09 |
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| heckj | sorry I'm late | 18:10 |
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| heckj | #startmeeting keystone | 18:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 27 18:10:10 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:10 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:10 |
| heckj | Folks till around? | 18:10 |
| heckj | ayoung, dolph, gyee, dwchadwick? | 18:10 |
| gyee | here | 18:10 |
| heckj | afraid I'm running very late and on no sleep | 18:11 |
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| heckj | #topic agenda http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:11 |
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| henrynash | hi | 18:11 |
| heckj | morning henrynash | 18:12 |
| heckj | (well, morning for me) | 18:12 |
| henrynash | ;-) | 18:12 |
| heckj | Any high priority or burning issues? | 18:12 |
| henrynash | so for me, its the infamous groups vs attribute-role mapping | 18:12 |
| gyee | I need to take care of the keyring thingy for keystoneclient | 18:13 |
| heckj | kristy? dwchadwick - either of you around today? | 18:13 |
| heckj | gyee: I at least found the keyring issue for you - did you get those notes? | 18:13 |
| dolphm | i just realized my cup is leaking quite rapidly onto my desk (not sure if that counts) | 18:13 |
| heckj | dolphm: that sounds rather important, I'd recommend dealing with it immediately | 18:14 |
| dolphm | heckj: fine, brb | 18:14 |
| heckj | We have a bug that's been reported that happens under higher load - a path to get resolved, but not clear implementations | 18:15 |
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| gyee | heckj, yeah, thanks, I am going to make the changes | 18:15 |
| heckj | bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1020127 | 18:15 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1020127 in keystone "proxy-server Error: Second simultaneous read or write detected" [High,In progress] | 18:15 |
| henrynash | we still on? | 18:15 |
| gyee | question is, should we disable keyring by default | 18:15 |
| gyee | or override it via env var in devstack | 18:15 |
| heckj | Alex Yang is supposedly working on moving the memcachering (eventlet safe memcache client) into openstack common, but it's biting some folks using keystone at a high velocity | 18:16 |
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| heckj | henrynash: yeah, just getting back up to speed | 18:16 |
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| henrynash | ok, I'm on a rather flaky internet connection from Tunisia ! | 18:17 |
| heckj | let's hit the attribute setup pieces in a second - sounds like the biggest topic | 18:17 |
| heckj | gyee: How are the other projects using it? i.e. how does novaclient do this (since it has keyring support) | 18:17 |
| gyee | heckj, good suggestion, we need to be consistent, I'll go find out | 18:18 |
| heckj | #topic attributes, role mapping, etc - ABAC and RBAC | 18:19 |
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| heckj | ayoung: around? | 18:19 |
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| heckj | henrynash: I haven't come up to speed with the role mapping concept - ABAC in itself seems pretty straightforward, but it's not at all what we have in V3 right now | 18:20 |
| henrynash | agreed | 18:20 |
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| heckj | I'm generally trying to figure out what's been requested for work - making V3 work cleanly or resetting this whole kit to an ABAC based system | 18:21 |
| gyee | I thought roles are nothing more than just a string, the services interpret/enforce the roles | 18:21 |
| heckj | gyee: yep - that's not a problem, and I like the concept of the ABAC system in general, but it's not at all what's in our policy engine and there's pending work to change the token API, present additional attributes, and pass them into the policy engine effectively. | 18:22 |
| henrynash | I think the (short term) decision is whether we support groups/organisation roles via something like the user-group extensions to RBAC, or introduce attributes in some kind of "local mapping mode" to implement the same fucntionality | 18:22 |
| heckj | gyee, henrynash: do you have a preference for either implementation focus? Does using a local mapping mechanism get us closer to ABAC in the future? | 18:22 |
| heckj | dolphm: when you're back, would like your input on ^^ | 18:23 |
| dolphm | heckj: i'm back, but don't have much input (just interested in seeing where the communities long term preferences lie) | 18:24 |
| dolphm | community's | 18:24 |
| * heckj nods | 18:24 | |
| henrynash | heckj: Not as currently defined - the current spec seems only half the story (as per my email) | 18:24 |
| heckj | henrynash: sorry, which is only half defined - the V3 RBAC setup, or the ABAC/extension pieces? | 18:25 |
| henrynash | I think if we did implement what was needed in a local mode, then actually you would end up with exactly the same spec (albeit with a few more layers thrown in) as the user-group spec | 18:25 |
| henrynash | ..maybe group membership is just another attribute to be taken into account when we finally implement ABAC | 18:26 |
| gyee | group is transparent in the RBAC model I think | 18:28 |
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| heckj | gyee: transparent? not sure I understand you | 18:29 |
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| gyee | RBAC authorize on roles, not group | 18:30 |
| gyee | groups | 18:30 |
| henrynash | <sorry internet going up and down so may miss questions> | 18:30 |
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| heckj | gyee: ah, yes - in that respect it is transparent | 18:30 |
| gyee | groups are there to make role assignment easier | 18:30 |
| henrynash | gyee : =1 | 18:31 |
| henrynash | +1 | 18:31 |
| heckj | so it seems like short term, implementing a groups REST API mechanism for managing sets of users to projects is the optimal path. | 18:32 |
| henrynash | heckj : +1 | 18:32 |
| gyee | +1 | 18:32 |
| heckj | With an idea to keeping that API to present the same interface back to customers, but converting the underpinning to ABAC in the long term | 18:32 |
| heckj | henrynash: Have you made updates to your proposed spec based on feedback received? | 18:33 |
| henrynash | I'm happy to have the bp assigned to me for implementation | 18:34 |
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| heckj | henrynash: K - we'll go with that and start rolling there | 18:34 |
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| heckj | dolphm: you'd opened some bugs and noted some issues with the initial V3 API in the past two weeks - any tags or notes related to that you can share? | 18:35 |
| dolphm | heckj: just that the service+endpoint spec has evolved far beyond the current implementation... migrating the sql driver to the new model and supporting both v2 CRUD and v3 CRUD will be tricky (the service catalog response will be trivial in either case) | 18:36 |
| ayoung | heckj, ah...got the time wrong | 18:37 |
| dolphm | heckj: for example, each current endpoint will suddenly have 3 ID's in the v3 spec, but still need to be accessible via the original ID in the v2 spec | 18:37 |
| heckj | ayoung: heh | 18:37 |
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| gyee | for for v3, token APIs are still /v2.0? | 18:37 |
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| dolphm | gyee: no, there's just no v3 implementation yet | 18:37 |
| gyee | k | 18:38 |
| dolphm | gyee: and i think the v3 spec on that topic needs some attention | 18:38 |
| gyee | oic | 18:38 |
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| gyee | same goes for middleware then? | 18:38 |
| dolphm | gyee: what about middleware? (auth_token?) | 18:38 |
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| gyee | yes, its not using /v3 at the moment | 18:39 |
| heckj | gyee: most of that API remained the same and during the original V3 development work was directly compatible | 18:39 |
| dolphm | gyee: right | 18:39 |
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| heckj | dolphm: where are you focused at the moment? | 18:39 |
| dolphm | gyee: the auth_token contract with the underlying service won't change (although we could expose X-Domain-Id / X-Domain-Name if we want to) | 18:39 |
| dolphm | heckj: v2 vs v3 catalog driver | 18:40 |
| dolphm | heckj: trying to figure out how to support both | 18:40 |
| heckj | dolphm: cool | 18:40 |
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| gyee | dolphm, nah, domain need not be exposed to the services at the moment | 18:41 |
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| heckj | dolphm: did you ever port the token changes from your development/feature branch into master for Token? | 18:41 |
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| heckj | (i.e. is there anything more that needs to get moved over)? | 18:41 |
| ayoung | heckj, what changes? | 18:41 |
| dolphm | gyee: agree, but i expect metering & billing projects to want that data | 18:41 |
| heckj | ayoung: the V3 implementation of the token API in the V3 feature branch | 18:41 |
| dolphm | heckj: no, i never made any | 18:41 |
| dolphm | heckj: there is no v3 token impl | 18:42 |
| heckj | Okay - so V3 token implemenation is still pending | 18:42 |
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| ayoung | heckj, isn't that basically the gyee work on getting the tokenid out of the URL anyway? | 18:43 |
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| gyee | heckj, yeah, we need to figure out the auth pluggins | 18:43 |
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| gyee | ayoung, and that too :) | 18:43 |
| heckj | ayoung: yep - | 18:43 |
| dolphm | heckj: long term, are we okay with deprecating & removing all non-auth related v2 calls & extensions? (i think we need to maintain full support for /v2.0/tokens for quite a while) | 18:43 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, +1 | 18:43 |
| heckj | dolphm: yes, definitely | 18:43 |
| henrynash | +1 | 18:43 |
| gyee | so I do the stop-tokin-in-uri thingy on /v2.0 for now? | 18:44 |
| heckj | dolphm: we just need to be very clear about deprecation and what's available/supported and when | 18:44 |
| ayoung | dolphm, but we probably need a way to turn off the token ID in the URL | 18:44 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: i think the answer to that is to use v3, and make v2 support a deployment option | 18:44 |
| heckj | gyee: I think you want to do that in a /v3 API mapping, using most of what's already there for token support | 18:44 |
| ayoung | dolphm, agreed | 18:44 |
| dolphm | ayoung: i.e. remove v2 support from the pipeline if you think it's a security issue in your deployment | 18:44 |
| heckj | ayoung: token ID in the URL is intrinsic to the API - the only way we get away from it is to deprecate the V2 API | 18:45 |
| ayoung | dolphm, yes. gyee can you factor that into your approach? | 18:45 |
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| ayoung | heckj, well, we want to deprecate it, but a security conscious deployment should be able to avoid it all together. Part of that is disabling it at keystone so you know that other services can't use it without you knowing | 18:46 |
| heckj | ayoung: how are you envisioning making v2 API support optional? | 18:46 |
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| ayoung | heckj, config option? | 18:46 |
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| heckj | ayoung: like the idea to make it optional | 18:46 |
| heckj | config option or asking customers to change their paste.ini? | 18:46 |
| ayoung | yes, defaults V2_Tokens=True | 18:46 |
| ayoung | but setting to False shuts down accepting them | 18:47 |
| dolphm | ayoung: heckj: it's already sort of optional (there's just nothing to replace it) | 18:47 |
| ayoung | dolphm, there is also no way to yank it yet | 18:47 |
| heckj | dolphm: I'm just missing it this morning | 18:47 |
| dolphm | ayoung: sure there is, remove it from your keystone.conf (v2 is isolated from v3 there) | 18:48 |
| heckj | gyee: are you good to move forward with what dolphm and ayoung are suggesting? | 18:48 |
| ayoung | I mean, you could yank the whole v2 API...I was just thinking the tokenID in the URL piece (tokens) | 18:48 |
| ayoung | but I guess going V3 pure would be a viable solution | 18:48 |
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| gyee | so I am going to impl the v3 token APIs? | 18:49 |
| heckj | ayoung: would be less work than partially disabling V2 APIs | 18:49 |
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| heckj | gyee: yes - and include the stop-id work in there | 18:49 |
| gyee | k | 18:49 |
| gyee | but leave the v2 APIs along for now | 18:50 |
| heckj | yep - we'll plan to deprecate them, at least the token part - but ideally the whole V2 API set | 18:50 |
| ayoung | OK, that should work...it means that it would be Grizzly only, and not something independently back portable, but so be it | 18:50 |
| dolphm | heckj: +1 | 18:50 |
| heckj | ayoung: never expected it to be back-portable | 18:50 |
| gyee | not backportable since the auth content is different | 18:50 |
| heckj | only a few minutes left | 18:51 |
| heckj | #topic open discussion | 18:51 |
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| heckj | henrynash you good? (if yo'ure still with us) | 18:51 |
| ayoung | heckj, can I get a final blessing on the normalize patch? | 18:51 |
| henrynash | yes, been in and out! | 18:51 |
| ayoung | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16322/ | 18:51 |
| heckj | ayoung: where are you focused? How's identity coming along? | 18:51 |
| ayoung | heckj, I am working on preauth..now renamed to trusts | 18:52 |
| heckj | ayoung: trusts huh? Did you update the blueprint or is that an internal convention naming thing? | 18:52 |
| ayoung | I like the name trust. A trust has a truster and a trustee | 18:52 |
| ayoung | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/trusts | 18:52 |
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| heckj | cool | 18:53 |
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| ayoung | I've done a lot of vetting of names. All names have some limitation. This had the least | 18:53 |
| ayoung | it maps to intention | 18:53 |
| heckj | ayoung: will do the identity review today | 18:53 |
| heckj | ayoung: sounds good - isn't this predicated on passing in auth/authN refactor? - where's that sitting? | 18:53 |
| ayoung | the word 'trusts' are used in Kerberos, but it is a slightly different level: cross domain trusts. There are user to user trusts | 18:53 |
| ayoung | heckj, a good chunk of the refactor was done. | 18:54 |
| heckj | ayoung: more outstanding while you work on trusts? | 18:54 |
| ayoung | I think I will weave the additional refactoring work in to the trusts...I don't want to shut down dev on service.py if I don't need to | 18:54 |
| heckj | ayoung: or is someone else tracking on that work? | 18:54 |
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| heckj | cool | 18:54 |
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| ayoung | heckj, Iike the current refactor state, as it is at least readable/maintainable. I can foresee doing much more in the future, but under the guise of other features | 18:55 |
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| heckj | ayoung: sounds good | 18:55 |
| ayoung | trusts by themselves should add an addition set of functions to the Authenticate code path, but they should be isolated from the authenticate function itseld | 18:55 |
| ayoung | f | 18:55 |
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| heckj | I'm going to focus on that bug I mentioned at the top of the discussion - not sure how much traction I'll get between now and next week, but I'll at least try and get a repro running for it | 18:56 |
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| ayoung | ie... there will be an additional conditional that we are dealing with a trust request, and that will call a function that will prevent calling REMOTE_USER etc. I'll shoult when I get closer to that, right now I am working over the SQL schema and unit tests for the back end | 18:57 |
| ayoung | heckj, are you referring to the swift thing? | 18:57 |
| heckj | ayoung: yeah | 18:57 |
| ayoung | I think the right solution there is to stop using memcached as the cache | 18:57 |
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| ayoung | memcached and eventlet don't play nice. I hate being a playground referee | 18:58 |
| heckj | ayoung: and use what instead? memcachering was proposed - sounded OK to me with a move into openstack common | 18:58 |
| ayoung | yes, that is the solution | 18:58 |
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| dolphm | ayoung: is that what you mean by "stop using memcache"? | 18:58 |
| ayoung | assuming memcache ring doesn't have any baggage of its own... | 18:58 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, we don't want to make a blocking call to cache | 18:59 |
| ayoung | so, KVS | 18:59 |
| ayoung | something that times out like memcached, but that is purely in memory | 18:59 |
| gyee | I got burned with blocking calls in middleware once :) | 18:59 |
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| ayoung | dolphm, only for auth_token users that are running in eventlet | 18:59 |
| ayoung | say they are running in apache under prefork mode, they should use memcached | 18:59 |
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| heckj | ayoung: right now, we don't even have any means of reproducing the issue and verifying that it's resolved - so focusing on that first | 19:00 |
| ayoung | so memcache ring is, I think, an abstraction that lets us swap one or the other in | 19:00 |
| ayoung | But I want that confirmed | 19:00 |
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| heckj | ayoung: read the code - it's not a complete memcache replacement, but it's darned close - does what's needed, and there's equiv art elsewhere in use | 19:00 |
| heckj | ayoung: I noted as such in the blueprint to push that into openstack-common | 19:01 |
| ayoung | heckj, can we ask them to run with a hacked auth_token that uses kvs and see if the problem goes away? | 19:01 |
| heckj | ayoung: the guy asking/reporting the bug isn't in to hacking code or he'd already have this solved | 19:01 |
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| heckj | I've got to run to another meeting | 19:02 |
| heckj | #endmeeting | 19:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 27 19:02:06 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-11-27-18.10.html | 19:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-11-27-18.10.txt | 19:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-11-27-18.10.log.html | 19:02 |
| zykes- | question while you're here | 19:02 |
| heckj | I'll be on #dev later today | 19:02 |
| zykes- | will group stuff make it to G ? | 19:02 |
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| ayoung | or is there an option with memcached to run completely out of memory and in process? | 19:03 |
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| henrynash | zykes: that's my goal | 19:03 |
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| * ttx hops in-channel | 20:59 | |
| gabrielhurley | hi ttx! | 21:00 |
| ttx | markmc, heckj, notmyname, bcwaldon, jgriffith, vishy, gabrielhurley, danwent: around ? | 21:00 |
| danwent | yup | 21:00 |
| notmyname | here | 21:00 |
| heckj | o/ | 21:00 |
| markmc | hey | 21:00 |
| ttx | markwash: representing glance today ? | 21:00 |
| ttx | OK, still missing (jgriffith, [markwash, bcwaldon], vishy), hopefully they will join | 21:01 |
| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 27 21:01:46 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:01 |
| ttx | Agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:01 |
| ttx | #topic General announcements | 21:02 |
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| annegentle_ | o/ | 21:02 |
| ttx | #info grizzly-1 released last week, the world is still standing | 21:02 |
| ttx | Today we'll be mostly going through the grizzly-2 plans and check them for sanity, should be a quick one | 21:02 |
| ttx | markmc: how is 2012.2.1 looking ? | 21:02 |
| markmc | ttx, pretty good, huge amount of activity in the last week - roughly 50 new backports | 21:02 |
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| markmc | latest tallies: | 21:03 |
| markmc | 77 nova | 21:03 |
| markmc | 32 quantum | 21:03 |
| markmc | 9 glance | 21:03 |
| markmc | 7 keystone | 21:03 |
| markmc | 3 cinder | 21:03 |
| markmc | 1 horizon | 21:03 |
| markmc | 129 total | 21:03 |
| markmc | vishy backported a tonne | 21:03 |
| ttx | markmc: one security bug will be released tomorrow | 21:03 |
| markmc | adam_g caught one nasty regression which we fixed | 21:03 |
| markmc | ttx, ah, yes | 21:03 |
| ttx | shoudl be added to the mix | 21:03 |
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| markmc | there's another 10 or so reviews still pending across the projects | 21:03 |
| ttx | markmc: could we have caught that regression using our fearless testing/gate ? | 21:03 |
| markmc | ttx, good question, I don't recall why we didn't | 21:04 |
| markmc | #action markmc check why testing didn't catch the stable/folsom regression | 21:04 |
| ttx | adam_g: i think it was usage of old config format with new | 21:04 |
| ttx | so maybe grenade could have caught it, but not static version testing | 21:04 |
| ttx | markmc: so, on track for Thursday release ? | 21:04 |
| markmc | wasn't so much new/old format, just config refactoring confused things | 21:05 |
| markmc | ttx, I think so - a little nervous at the rate of change, but we should go ahead I think | 21:05 |
| markmc | ttx, it's 11 weeks of stuff at this point | 21:05 |
| markmc | 9 weeks | 21:06 |
| ttx | markmc: if you prefer it to slow down, we could do next Tuesday | 21:06 |
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| markmc | ttx, doubt it would help much, think we should plough on | 21:07 |
| markmc | ttx, I'll do a few more reviews tonight and then lock down | 21:07 |
| ttx | ok, then we can call for last minute regression testing | 21:07 |
| markmc | cool, will do | 21:07 |
| ttx | mordred, annegentle, davidkranz: Anything interesting happening in CI, QA or Docs ? | 21:07 |
| annegentle_ | #info We have applicants for Outreach Program for Women submitting small patches in the next 2 weeks, thanks for welcoming our newcomers (we're doing well being a good community). | 21:07 |
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| ttx | #info 2012.2.1 lock down on Wednesday for release Thursday | 21:08 |
| annegentle_ | #info Google Doc Summit proposal was declined (bummer) but working on a new proposal for a similar sprint. | 21:08 |
| annegentle_ | #help Please encourage students in the southern hemisphere to apply for OpenStack slots for OPW. | 21:09 |
| ttx | Any other general-interest topic before we start to cover project-specific stuff ? | 21:09 |
| annegentle_ | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/OutreachProgramForWomen | 21:09 |
| annegentle_ | that's all I have | 21:09 |
| ttx | #topic Oslo status | 21:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Oslo status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:09 | |
| ttx | markmc: hello again | 21:09 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/oslo/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:09 |
| markmc | me again? sheesh | 21:09 |
| ttx | Looks good, maybe a bit ambitious but difficult to defer anything | 21:10 |
| markmc | so I filed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/oslo/+spec/oslo-config-package | 21:10 |
| markmc | that's my action item :) | 21:10 |
| ttx | Note that we need oslo-release-versioning and common-binaries completed early in the milstone, as they are blocking others in same milestone | 21:10 |
| ttx | both yours :) | 21:10 |
| markmc | yeah, hopefully we're close on release versioning | 21:10 |
| ttx | I wouldn't say that, but the discussion is well under way | 21:11 |
| markmc | you don't hope we're close ? :) | 21:11 |
| ttx | Hope is for the weak | 21:11 |
| ttx | markmc: anything else ? | 21:11 |
| markmc | common-binaries - kinda waiting for the rootwrap patch and then the update.py will thing will be trivial | 21:11 |
| markmc | yes | 21:12 |
| markmc | I'm working on porting all the projects to cfg-argparse | 21:12 |
| ttx | common-binaries: you'd like rootwrap to be in first ? | 21:12 |
| markmc | WIP reviews for nova, glance and keystone are up | 21:12 |
| ttx | I was kinda holding until support for binaries was there | 21:12 |
| markmc | jut waiting for some cfg patches to land in oslo-incubator | 21:12 |
| ttx | as reflected by the bp interdependency | 21:12 |
| adam_g | ttx: re: the config breakage. i'd expect something like that to be an issue around a major release but not a point release / stable update | 21:12 |
| markmc | I'll do quantum and cinder too | 21:12 |
| markmc | #info projects should keep an eye out for cfg-argparse reviews | 21:13 |
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| markmc | ttx, other thing - how can I do a "release" of oslo in launchpad for grizzly-1 | 21:13 |
| markmc | ttx, or should I? | 21:13 |
| markmc | ttx, e.g. would like bugs to go from FixCommitted to FixReleased | 21:13 |
| ttx | markmc: ah. let's talk offline, i'll give it some thought | 21:14 |
| markmc | ttx, thanks | 21:14 |
| ttx | #action ttx/markmc to discuss how to do oslo grizzly-1 "release" | 21:14 |
| ttx | markmc: so common-binaries comes after rootwrap or before ? | 21:14 |
| markmc | ttx, if you proposed rootwrap it would kickstart me into action :) | 21:14 |
| markmc | ttx, in theory I'd do it before, but ... | 21:15 |
| ttx | ok | 21:15 |
| ttx | Anything else you wanted to raise before we switch to next topic ? | 21:15 |
| markmc | nope, thanks | 21:15 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:16 | |
| ttx | heckj: o/ | 21:16 |
| heckj | ola | 21:16 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:16 |
| ttx | Looks good to me | 21:16 |
| ttx | I suspect we can consider pluggable-identity-authentication-handlers "started", since there is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16755/ | 21:16 |
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| heckj | agreed, updated | 21:17 |
| heckj | Also working on a high priority bug - memcache/eventlet unhappiness at high load (found from swift) | 21:17 |
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| ttx | heckj: affecting all versions of keystone ? | 21:18 |
| heckj | Working on primarily coming up with a way to repro and verify against failure in the future, solution looks reasonably well in hand - will track with some of the OSLO incubator stuff (moving memcachering into openstack-common). | 21:18 |
| heckj | ttx: yes, anything using auth_token with high concurrency may hit this | 21:18 |
| heckj | higher load makes it happen faster - not entirely predictable | 21:19 |
| ttx | heckj: if you see the end of it by tomorrow could be good to include it in 2012.2.1 | 21:19 |
| ttx | markmc ^ | 21:19 |
| heckj | won't be in that fast | 21:19 |
| ttx | ok | 21:19 |
| heckj | http://10.128.1.55/page/login.html | 21:19 |
| heckj | damnit : https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1020127 | 21:19 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1020127 in keystone "proxy-server Error: Second simultaneous read or write detected" [High,In progress] | 21:19 |
| ttx | Interesting. Old bug | 21:20 |
| ttx | heckj, others: Anything more about Keystone ? | 21:20 |
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| heckj | nothing from me | 21:21 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Swift status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:21 | |
| notmyname | hi | 21:21 |
| ttx | notmyname: o/ | 21:21 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.7.6 | 21:21 |
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| ttx | Any planned features/ETA so far ? | 21:21 |
| notmyname | as far as project plans, no. | 21:21 |
| ttx | ok then, anything else about Swift before we move to Glance ? | 21:22 |
| notmyname | I've been talking with heckj et al about the keystone bug. other than that, we've got a coupl eof new old core devs re-engaged in swift | 21:22 |
| ttx | good news | 21:22 |
| notmyname | I don't have anything else to report on swift | 21:22 |
| ttx | Zombie core devs ftw | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | should be no more zombies now, actually :-) | 21:23 |
| ttx | markwash, bcwaldon: around ? | 21:23 |
| ttx | ok, let's skip to quantum | 21:24 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quantum status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:24 | |
| ttx | danwent: hi! | 21:24 |
| danwent | hi | 21:24 |
| ttx | still on your famous non-Internet connection ? | 21:25 |
| markwash | ttx: here btw (sorry for delay) | 21:25 |
| danwent | ttx: that's only the evenings… at work i have decent connectivity :) | 21:25 |
| ttx | markmc: ok, you're next | 21:25 |
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| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/quantum/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:25 |
| ttx | yay, 24 blueprints | 21:25 |
| markmc | not me again | 21:25 |
| danwent | ttx: we have a LOT Of high blueprints | 21:25 |
| ttx | mark*wash*: you're next | 21:26 |
| ttx | So on one side that's more than you ever managed to complete in one milestone... | 21:26 |
| danwent | but several of them are items already deep through code review, essentially left-over from G-1 | 21:26 |
| ttx | yes, you already have made good progress on about half of them | 21:26 |
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| ttx | so it looks actually quite doable | 21:26 |
| danwent | ttx: there are several that if no one starts working on them in one week or so, i think we can bump out | 21:26 |
| ttx | danwent: good plan | 21:26 |
| ttx | There are a few things to fix in that plan: | 21:26 |
| ttx | quantum-v2-euca-compat is in the current milestone but has no assignee. | 21:27 |
| danwent | ttx: yup, i'm going to try and get someone to sign up, otherwise boot | 21:27 |
| ttx | lbaas-agent-and-rpc: this is not part of the series goal, but has a milestone set | 21:27 |
| ttx | and lbaas-plugin-api-crud (High, grizzly-2) depends on lbaas-restapi-provider (Medium, no milestone) | 21:27 |
| ttx | danwent: maybe clarify those by next week ? | 21:28 |
| danwent | ttx: ah, that's a new one… it though I just checked for things missing series and there were none… one sec | 21:28 |
| danwent | ttx: definitely, will take care of them. | 21:28 |
| ttx | There are also 4 blueprints with "unknown" status. Should I set them to "Not started" instead ? | 21:28 |
| danwent | sure | 21:28 |
| ttx | Hmm... make-string-localizable and nvp-provider-net look started, actually (have linked changes) | 21:28 |
| danwent | nvp-provider net definitely is started, its in code review, i believe | 21:28 |
| ttx | Will make those two started and the other not started. | 21:28 |
| danwent | let me follow-up with the devs directly | 21:29 |
| danwent | v6 is definitely not started | 21:29 |
| ttx | ok, I'll let you update those then | 21:29 |
| danwent | k | 21:29 |
| ttx | danwent: anything on your mind ? | 21:29 |
| danwent | stable release | 21:29 |
| danwent | we are still tracking a few last items to get merged into stable/folsom | 21:29 |
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| danwent | i think markmc is aware of this. garyk is lead on stable/folsom on our end. | 21:30 |
| ttx | danwent: ok | 21:30 |
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| danwent | also, i'm working with annegentle_ to try and get more attention focused on quantum docs by quantum core devs | 21:30 |
| danwent | that's about it. | 21:30 |
| ttx | Sounds good. Everyone ready to switch back to glance now ? | 21:30 |
| markwash | o/ | 21:30 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:31 | |
| ttx | markwash: welcome! | 21:31 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:31 |
| markwash | ttx: thanks | 21:31 |
| ttx | Plan looks good, quite ambitious though, compared to your usual velocity | 21:31 |
| ttx | Feeling confident you can hit all those targets by January 8 ? | 21:31 |
| markwash | well, most of them | 21:31 |
| markwash | not sure which will need more at this point | 21:32 |
| markwash | one is in a similar situation to quantum bps, most of the work done already for g-1 | 21:32 |
| ttx | markwash: sounds good | 21:32 |
| ttx | we'll track progress in the next weeks and see if things are getting completed at a reasonable rate anyway | 21:33 |
| ttx | markwash: did you have anything else ? | 21:33 |
| markwash | that's all :-) happy to answer any other questions though | 21:33 |
| ttx | Do we have jgriffith in the house ? | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | ttx: yessir | 21:34 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder status | 21:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:34 | |
| ttx | jgriffith: hello sir | 21:34 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | ttx: afternoon | 21:34 |
| ttx | So.. 19 blueprints ! | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | Yup | 21:34 |
| jgriffith | They're *small* :) | 21:35 |
| ttx | That would... explode your own record | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | some of them | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | That's the goal :) | 21:35 |
| ttx | I repeat that the deadline is Tuesday, January 8 :) | 21:35 |
| jgriffith | ttx: Nope, it's the week before for Cinder ;) | 21:35 |
| ttx | even better :) | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I've checked with everyone and made it clear that we're shooting for Christmas presents | 21:36 |
| ttx | Should I assume all the "unknown" ones are actually "not started" ? | 21:36 |
| ttx | (well, the two unknown ones) | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | ttx: Yes.. that's safe | 21:36 |
| ttx | ok done | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I'm fairly certain they're not started but wanted confirmation before stating so | 21:37 |
| ttx | jgriffith: if you defer, try to defer early. You don't have that much targeted to g3 | 21:37 |
| ttx | That's all I had. Anything more in Cinder ? | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | Not from me... unless somebody wants to rewrite LVM snapshots :) | 21:38 |
| ttx | jgriffith: I think we only do that every Friday | 21:38 |
| jgriffith | dang it! | 21:38 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Nova status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:38 | |
| ttx | vishy: hi! | 21:38 |
| vishy | hi | 21:38 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:39 |
| ttx | Same as quantum, lots of work, but you seem on track so far. | 21:39 |
| ttx | hyper-v-compute-resize: should I add it to the series goal ? Which priority ? | 21:39 |
| vishy | sure its new | 21:40 |
| vishy | low | 21:40 |
| ttx | will do | 21:40 |
| ttx | About the general plan at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/grizzly | 21:40 |
| ttx | It still suffers from too many "High" priority stuff being untargeted | 21:40 |
| ttx | Could you get assignees to indicate *when* they think their work will land ? | 21:40 |
| vishy | sure | 21:41 |
| ttx | There are a number of things where work started, where I think the assignees should have a pretty good idea... | 21:41 |
| ttx | db-session-cleanup, coverage-extension, vmware-compute-driver, zk-service-heartbeat, trusted-filter-cache, grizzly-hyper-v-nova-compute, hw-feature-to-vm | 21:41 |
| ttx | About bug 1079210 that was raised by davidkranz last week... any updated status ? the bug is quite calm | 21:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1079210 in nova "Successful full gate jobs show ERRORs and stacktraces" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079210 | 21:42 |
| davidkranz | ttx: Sean Dague's team is looking at this. | 21:42 |
| ttx | davidkranz: ok | 21:42 |
| davidkranz | ttx: mtreinish was going to talk to vishy this afternoon. | 21:42 |
| vishy | yeah he pinged me | 21:42 |
| vishy | its going to take some investigation | 21:42 |
| davidkranz | vishy: There was a suggestion to put some code in tempest that pulls info from the nova db to help. | 21:43 |
| ttx | vishy: anything else on your mind ? Review queue worries ? | 21:44 |
| davidkranz | I'm sure you guys will figure it out. | 21:44 |
| vishy | davidkranz: that would help, so would leaving broken builds up for investigation | 21:45 |
| vishy | ttx: no i think we are good atm | 21:45 |
| vishy | ttx: going to discuss blueprints at the meetup on thursday | 21:45 |
| vishy | to hopefully get more help on the ones i emailed about | 21:45 |
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| ttx | you mean meeting ? | 21:46 |
| vishy | no i mean at the meetup in southbay | 21:46 |
| vishy | :) | 21:46 |
| ttx | or really recruiting in local meetup ?ok | 21:46 |
| ttx | haha | 21:46 |
| ttx | Anything else about Nova ? | 21:46 |
| comstud | i RSVP'd for Thursday's meetup | 21:47 |
| comstud | ppl can give me crap about cells if they want | 21:47 |
| comstud | except Vish. | 21:47 |
| ttx | comstud: that reminds me... | 21:47 |
| russellb | comstud: I can't go, but can I still give you crap about cells? | 21:47 |
| comstud | russellb: NO | 21:47 |
| comstud | :) | 21:47 |
| ttx | comstud: how is the weather looking for cells code those days ? Was lamost in, then farther away... | 21:48 |
| ttx | almost* | 21:48 |
| comstud | we're close.. i'll have some cleanups up tomorrow | 21:48 |
| comstud | the db model re-add went in earlier | 21:48 |
| russellb | i'm going to go into heads down review mode on cells once comstud posts updates tomorrow | 21:48 |
| ttx | creepy | 21:48 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 21:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon status (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:49 | |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: hey | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | hi | 21:49 |
| ttx | #link https://launchpad.net/horizon/+milestone/grizzly-2 | 21:49 |
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| ttx | Only one unassigned blueprint left, I see: orderable-mutiple-choice-field | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | the one unassigned blueprint is up in the air on who will do it.. a couple people have mentioned thoughts on it but I'm the fallback. it's necessary for quantum work. | 21:49 |
| gabrielhurley | I should have an assignee by next week I hope | 21:50 |
| ttx | that works | 21:50 |
| ttx | Your plan looks nice and reasonable. So I don't have much to say. | 21:50 |
| gabrielhurley | cool | 21:51 |
| ttx | Anything you wanted to raise ? | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | i have a question though | 21:51 |
| ttx | ah. | 21:51 |
| ttx | i didn't order my T-shirt, because you don't ship internationally. | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | haha, hit me up in private on that one | 21:51 |
| ttx | was that this one ? | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm trying to schedule the weekly project dev meeting for horizon, but I'm having a hard time... what would it take to actually start a second meeting room? | 21:51 |
| gabrielhurley | basically I'm on Pacific time and a lot of the folks who want to participate are in Europe, so there's not a lot of middle ground | 21:52 |
| ttx | not that much, apart from having the meetbot also hang on that one | 21:52 |
| gabrielhurley | yeah, I figured that was the main bit | 21:52 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: raise an openstack-ci bug about an #openstack-meeting2 channel | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | awesome, will do | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | that's it for me then | 21:53 |
| ttx | There aren't so many good spots for meeting, and we can parallelize a bit | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | yeha | 21:53 |
| ttx | though we should avoid double-booking as much as we can, to let people attend | 21:53 |
| gabrielhurley | agreed | 21:53 |
| ttx | it's simpler for me to attend two meetings at the same time than one meeting at 4am | 21:54 |
| gabrielhurley | I'm probably gonna parallelize with the red dwarf meeting right after this one | 21:54 |
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| ttx | gabrielhurley: we could also say that reddwarf needs ot move to let priority to the core project, but that would not be nice :) | 21:54 |
| gabrielhurley | I considered that. ;-) | 21:55 |
| ttx | which nicely brings us to the next topic, incubation | 21:55 |
| ttx | #topic Incubated projects | 21:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Incubated projects (Meeting topic: project)" | 21:55 | |
| ttx | Anyone to talk Ceilometer ? | 21:55 |
| ttx | Anyone from Heat ? | 21:56 |
| shardy | o/ | 21:56 |
| ttx | shardy: your Launchpad teams look good now. | 21:56 |
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| ttx | Only one small remark: you should set the "development focus" on https://launchpad.net/heat to be the grizzly series | 21:57 |
| shardy | ttx: yep I think we still have some work to align our issues with the grizzly milestones tho | 21:57 |
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| ttx | Next step is bug 1082820 | 21:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1082820 in openstack-ci "Move heat to OpenStack" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1082820 | 21:57 |
| shardy | Plan to discuss at our meeting tomorrow and get that more organized | 21:57 |
| ttx | shardy: make sure you get the CI folks in to discuss that | 21:58 |
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| ttx | Still planning to do a grizzly-1 milestone yourself ? Any ETA for that ? | 21:58 |
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| shardy | No, I think we're targeting our next release to align with grizzy-2 | 21:58 |
| shardy | too soon after our last release for things to be ready for g-1 | 21:59 |
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| ttx | ok, then I'd just remove that milstone and make g2 your forst, like we did for ceilo. | 21:59 |
| ttx | first* | 21:59 |
| shardy | will organize the issues in LP so we have a clear plan of what we'll deliver for g-2 | 21:59 |
| shardy | Ok | 21:59 |
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| ttx | Yes, you need to transfer your roadmap to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/grizzly | 21:59 |
| shardy | Ok | 22:00 |
| ttx | it's a bit empty, I'm pretty sure you have more plans that this :) | 22:00 |
| ttx | than* | 22:00 |
| shardy | Yep, we're still getting organized after moving everything from github issues | 22:00 |
| ttx | ok, we're done. | 22:00 |
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| shardy | one question - | 22:00 |
| ttx | shardy: shoot | 22:00 |
| shardy | can we get some help from the CI guys to get better value from our integration tests? | 22:00 |
| ttx | shardy: I suspect yes. | 22:01 |
| ttx | shardy: talk to them, let me know if there are any issues | 22:01 |
| * ttx clears the floor for next meeting | 22:01 | |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 27 22:01:45 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-11-27-21.01.html | 22:01 |
| shardy | Ok, great, I'll reach out to them | 22:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-11-27-21.01.txt | 22:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-11-27-21.01.log.html | 22:01 |
| shardy | thanks | 22:01 |
| ttx | shardy: you're welcome! | 22:01 |
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| hub_cap | thx for cleaning shop ttx | 22:02 |
| hub_cap | #startmeeting reddwarf | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Nov 27 22:02:23 2012 UTC. The chair is hub_cap. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: reddwarf)" | 22:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'reddwarf' | 22:02 |
| hub_cap | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/RedDwarfMeeting | 22:02 |
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| vipuls | yo | 22:03 |
| hub_cap | sup | 22:03 |
| hub_cap | lets start action items | 22:03 |
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| SlickNik | sup peeps. | 22:03 |
| hub_cap | #topic Action Items from previous meeting | 22:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Action Items from previous meeting (Meeting topic: reddwarf)" | 22:03 | |
| hub_cap | #info hub_cap has not talked image creation yet! Will be doing so this wk since im back from paternity leave | 22:04 |
| hub_cap | jcooley: you're up next, how bout devstack integration? | 22:04 |
| * CaptTofu is here too | 22:04 | |
| vipuls | jcooley may not avail | 22:05 |
| hub_cap | kk, do u have any infoz regarding his item vipuls? | 22:05 |
| vipuls | hub_cap: SlickNik, dkehn from our end will be taking a closer look at this beginning late this week | 22:05 |
| hub_cap | ok cool | 22:05 |
| hub_cap | #action SlickNik dkehn to take over devstack / reddwarf integration | 22:06 |
| SlickNik | roger that. | 22:06 |
| SlickNik | vipuls, hub_cap: you guys have the link to last meetings action items? | 22:06 |
| dkehn | ++ | 22:06 |
| vipuls | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/reddwarf/2012/reddwarf.2012-11-20-22.03.html | 22:06 |
| hub_cap | SlickNik: in the meeting notes | 22:06 |
| hub_cap | the first link i posted | 22:06 |
| SlickNik | thanks. | 22:06 |
| hub_cap | itll always be in that | 22:06 |
| SlickNik | gotcha | 22:06 |
| cp16net | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/reddwarf/2012/reddwarf.2012-11-20-22.03.html | 22:06 |
| hub_cap | SlickNik: grapex1 update on the gate stuff? | 22:07 |
| SlickNik | Still work in progress. | 22:07 |
| grapex1 | hub_cap: Sorry, no update on that yet. I'd like to propose we wait on that until we can get RDLI running with the tests. | 22:07 |
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| SlickNik | I was working with grapex to get the "real" mode integration tests running. | 22:07 |
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| grapex1 | Yeah, lets focus on that first and then we can work on the gate. Until then it'll be hard to set up. | 22:08 |
| hub_cap | #info SlickNik grapex workign on the real mode integration tests before redstack-gate work | 22:08 |
| hub_cap | cp16net: youre next, blueprint stuffz | 22:08 |
| esp1 | grapex1: I found a couple of little things regarding the unit tests but I will try to ping you after. | 22:09 |
| jcooley | ai | 22:09 |
| cp16net | yeah so looking at all the other projects they do not have any links | 22:09 |
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| vipuls | hub_cap, cp16net: pinged #openstack-infra earlier, and this is not supposed to work, at least the regex doesn't match non-openstack projects | 22:09 |
| jcooley | as typical. in a meeting on nova bare-metal. | 22:09 |
| cp16net | so i dont think we can change the blueprint links | 22:09 |
| hub_cap | vipuls: they are "Fixing" it | 22:09 |
| hub_cap | let me find the bug | 22:09 |
| vipuls | yea, it may mean putting sometihng like 'implements blueprint reddwarf/xxx' | 22:10 |
| vipuls | in the commit message | 22:10 |
| hub_cap | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1083766 | 22:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1083766 in openstack-ci "gerrit only searches openstack namespace when linking blueprints" [Low,Triaged] | 22:10 |
| vipuls | we'll see | 22:10 |
| * CaptTofu thought slicknik was the next generation sneakypete :) | 22:10 | |
| hub_cap | also, the blueprint stuff does _not_ auto change blueprint status | 22:10 |
| hub_cap | even for openstack projects | 22:10 |
| SlickNik | heh @capttofu. | 22:10 |
| vipuls | CaptTofu: you'll have to make a trip to seattle, lots of new face | 22:10 |
| CaptTofu | 12/10 | 22:10 |
| vipuls | nice | 22:10 |
| CaptTofu | and hopefully show up with a new face of Simon | 22:11 |
| SlickNik | sweet. looking forward to meeting f2f. | 22:11 |
| hub_cap | ok mine is next | 22:11 |
| vipuls | hub_cap: so what's the process for closing blueprints | 22:11 |
| vipuls | manual? | 22:11 |
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| hub_cap | yes vipuls | 22:11 |
| hub_cap | they mentioned coding it up tho | 22:11 |
| vipuls | k | 22:12 |
| hub_cap | so it might be avail in teh future... :D | 22:12 |
| hub_cap | #info blueprint status change manual, not automated thru gerrit | 22:12 |
| hub_cap | so as for the projects, they are now all defaultd to a branch called stackforge | 22:12 |
| hub_cap | and only have a readme forwarding them to stackforge | 22:12 |
| hub_cap | example | 22:12 |
| hub_cap | http://github.com/hub-cap/reddwarf_lite | 22:12 |
| grapex1 | hub_cap: Nice. | 22:13 |
| spiffxp | woo | 22:13 |
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| hub_cap | i didnt _see_ a readonly flag tho in github... | 22:13 |
| SlickNik | cool. Thanks, hubcap. | 22:13 |
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| datsun180b | makes sense | 22:13 |
| hub_cap | did i miss something vipuls? | 22:13 |
| hub_cap | u mentioned making them r/o last wk | 22:13 |
| vipuls | nope, just thought there was an option, maybe not | 22:13 |
| hub_cap | also (https://github.com/rackspace/reddwarf) | 22:13 |
| vipuls | this is even better | 22:13 |
| spiffxp | agreed | 22:13 |
| hub_cap | ya so the client, integration, and mine/rax reddwarf are all updated | 22:14 |
| hub_cap | w/ proper links | 22:14 |
| hub_cap | ok next one is nebulous... | 22:14 |
| hub_cap | but i think spiffxp made some code changes regarding it | 22:14 |
| vipuls | i think it relates to 9 | 22:14 |
| hub_cap | #info https://review.openstack.org/#/c/16581/ <-- review for reddwarf_lite name change | 22:14 |
| hub_cap | oh duh | 22:15 |
| hub_cap | well then lets talk #9 :P | 22:15 |
| vipuls | so for that, i think that reivew is one part of it | 22:15 |
| vipuls | and i don't have have an update for the other bits, so let's keep that on the list for next meeting | 22:15 |
| hub_cap | cool | 22:15 |
| spiffxp | yah I was just grepping/sedding the python-reddwarfclient, reddwarf-integration, and reddwarf repos… not sure what else there is | 22:15 |
| hub_cap | #action vipul owns updating references | 22:15 |
| hub_cap | im sure itll be a work in progress | 22:16 |
| vipuls | i think only other stuff is launchpad pages, and anywhere else we may have a link to non-stackforge stuff | 22:16 |
| hub_cap | also, im firing up a 12.04 vm so i can code primarily on the stackforge stuffs, so ill be able to help update some of the integration code as well | 22:16 |
| hub_cap | so as for #10, we already chatted about it, so ill pass on it | 22:16 |
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| hub_cap | wow the power just flicker'd here, nice | 22:17 |
| cp16net | haha yeha | 22:17 |
| SlickNik | I can take a look to see if there are any references on our internal wiki and fix them there. | 22:17 |
| hub_cap | #action start discussion about the need for the extra actions that require login in reddwarf | 22:17 |
| hub_cap | i didnt start that either, cuz well, i was holding a child and changing his diapers :P | 22:17 |
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| hub_cap | any work on making user configurable from your guys vipuls? | 22:18 |
| vipuls | nope no update on that.. damn long weekends | 22:18 |
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| hub_cap | hah ya :P | 22:18 |
| SlickNik | not from my end, hub_cap | 22:18 |
| hub_cap | cool, then we finished Action Items, WOO! | 22:18 |
| hub_cap | #topic CI updates / Image updates | 22:19 |
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| hub_cap | any update on this? | 22:19 |
| hub_cap | as per eariler i have not talked w/ lifeless/dev yet about gen'ing a image | 22:19 |
| hub_cap | but i believe you guys had said someone from hp was workign on it? | 22:19 |
| vipuls | jdorothy got tox setup in python-reddwarfclient | 22:19 |
| hub_cap | great! u mentioned unit tests too on the client | 22:20 |
| hub_cap | any word on those? | 22:20 |
| jdorothy | those are coming next | 22:20 |
| hub_cap | thx jdorothy, good news indeed | 22:20 |
| vipuls | justin, dror kagan from our end (forgot their IRC handles) are working on image building | 22:21 |
| vipuls | first attempt is to get something similar to what's in redstack now, and make it work with 12.04 | 22:21 |
| vipuls | as well as with Percona | 22:21 |
| hub_cap | cool vipuls, ill reference last wks convo (they were on it) and ping them | 22:21 |
| vipuls | the plan later is to hook into the vm builder work that devananda has, and build images using that | 22:21 |
| hub_cap | id like to get something automated so we can move forward, i can help shepherd it along even if i dont work on it | 22:21 |
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| hub_cap | #action someone working on the image build to make a blueprint on the subject | 22:22 |
| vipuls | those guys have started the conversation with devananda, so we're on the right track | 22:22 |
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| hub_cap | very nice | 22:22 |
| hub_cap | grapex1: anything to add for ci? | 22:22 |
| grapex1 | hub_cap: Nope. Turkey day and some other stuff here got in the way of it, sorry. | 22:23 |
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| hub_cap | sure np | 22:23 |
| grapex1 | But its my first priority now. | 22:23 |
| hub_cap | ok shall we skip on to the next item? anyone have any otehr CI updates? | 22:23 |
| hub_cap | #info work will resume this wk on CI / Image updating | 22:24 |
| SlickNik | nope, sounds good. | 22:24 |
| hub_cap | #action hub_cap to keep an eye on it, help with blueprinting | 22:24 |
| hub_cap | crap i gotta be more explicit w/ the action items, they dont make sense out of context..... | 22:24 |
| hub_cap | #topic Specific Blueprints | 22:24 |
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| hub_cap | lets chat about | 22:25 |
| hub_cap | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/reddwarf/+spec/upgrade-oslo | 22:25 |
| vipuls | steveleon attempted to do this, any update on this? | 22:25 |
| hub_cap | i was tasked internally w/ updating some of the common code, a small chunk of it actually and it snowballed | 22:25 |
| hub_cap | its completely do-able | 22:25 |
| vipuls | and i don't think he's here | 22:25 |
| vipuls | so couple of questions.. are we just doing a straight copy paste? | 22:26 |
| hub_cap | its my primary task, i had everything updated when i left, but only rpc/log/service was really done | 22:26 |
| hub_cap | vipuls: yes and no | 22:26 |
| cp16net | yeah a big part is config | 22:26 |
| hub_cap | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Oslo | 22:26 |
| hub_cap | #info the openstack-common config file details what to copy over | 22:26 |
| vipuls | any word on if this is going to be packaged/versioned? | 22:26 |
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| hub_cap | #info teh update.py script is broken currently too but a review is posted | 22:26 |
| hub_cap | vipuls: one day maybe :P | 22:27 |
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| spiffxp | I suppose grizzly milestones are too much to ask for | 22:27 |
| hub_cap | markmc was talking to ttx about cutting a milestone | 22:27 |
| hub_cap | but that still wont hit pypi or anything | 22:28 |
| esp1 | is it possible to at least separate openstack common and just check it out as referenced project? | 22:28 |
| hub_cap | and wont solve our namespace issues :( | 22:28 |
| hub_cap | esp1: not unless its packaged in some way | 22:28 |
| hub_cap | or a git submodule | 22:28 |
| vipuls | yea, that may be a moving target | 22:28 |
| hub_cap | but then u end up w/ namespacing issues | 22:28 |
| esp1 | darn | 22:28 |
| hub_cap | ya we will do what is recommended for now | 22:28 |
| hub_cap | copy-pasta via update.py | 22:28 |
| hub_cap | ive updated the code in my local env | 22:28 |
| hub_cap | ill be pushing small bits of it for reviews | 22:29 |
| hub_cap | so its not a big ugly code review | 22:29 |
| vipuls | k cool | 22:29 |
| hub_cap | everyone ok w/ that? | 22:29 |
| hub_cap | cool | 22:29 |
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| spiffxp | yes | 22:29 |
| hub_cap | next on the list of BPs | 22:29 |
| spiffxp | fwiw, I wonder if pip requirements can track git repos at a certain sha? | 22:29 |
| SlickNik | that sounds good. | 22:29 |
| vipuls | #action hub_cap owns Oslo upgrade | 22:29 |
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| hub_cap | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/reddwarf/+spec/volume-usage | 22:29 |
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| hub_cap | this one id like to talk about cuz its a good learning experience | 22:30 |
| hub_cap | there is no info at all on it, and id like to see us start filling out BPs a bit more | 22:30 |
| hub_cap | ill be filling mine out as i figure out what pieces i need to update, so mine is shotty to, but its got a _bit_ of info in it | 22:30 |
| hub_cap | most of the time, wiki pages are created for the BPs | 22:30 |
| hub_cap | well _some_ of the time | 22:31 |
| vipuls | k, we'll have to get better at writing these | 22:31 |
| hub_cap | if u can fit the info in it, then just add teh info there | 22:31 |
| hub_cap | ya all around, my guys too! | 22:31 |
| vipuls | yep | 22:31 |
| vipuls | related note: volumes don't work in ref impl | 22:32 |
| vipuls | i guess i'll file a bug / blueprint to sort that out | 22:32 |
| hub_cap | #info volumes dont work in reference implementation | 22:32 |
| hub_cap | ya vipuls plz do | 22:32 |
| vipuls | #action Vipul file bug/blueprint to fix volume support | 22:32 |
| hub_cap | once i get set up ill be able to help out a bit more w/ those things too, id like to knock out oslo first tho | 22:32 |
| SlickNik | Yeah, we hit that volume support bug earlier. | 22:33 |
| hub_cap | i know what _has_ to happen and whats nto happening, so work w/ me to get it done. i cna help answer q's | 22:33 |
| vipuls | k will do | 22:33 |
| hub_cap | so who is Robert Myers? | 22:33 |
| vipuls | no clue | 22:33 |
| hub_cap | he owns that BP | 22:33 |
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| SlickNik | I can take a look at working with hub_cap to figure out what needs to be done. | 22:33 |
| vipuls | don't think he's HP | 22:33 |
| hub_cap | lol burned 2x, thats our new guy | 22:33 |
| vipuls | hehe | 22:33 |
| SlickNik | oops, is he already looking at it? | 22:34 |
| hub_cap | SlickNik: hes working w/ that BP yes | 22:34 |
| hub_cap | but thats not fixing vol in ref impl | 22:34 |
| vipuls | Yep, i'll work on the ref impl fix... | 22:35 |
| hub_cap | ok does anyone have any Qs or other BPs to speak about? | 22:35 |
| hub_cap | yes thx vipuls that would be awesome | 22:35 |
| SlickNik | cool, thanks vipuls. | 22:35 |
| vipuls | nope, don't think we've filed too many... | 22:35 |
| vipuls | #action Vipul to file blueprint on image-building | 22:36 |
| hub_cap | soooo.... the next item is 'Movement on os_admin / root discussion ?', i think we know the answer on that right? | 22:36 |
| hub_cap | #topic Movement on os_admin / root discussion | 22:36 |
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| hub_cap | so who is going to own this? | 22:37 |
| SlickNik | yeah, I haven't had a chance to default the user to "root" as was discussed. | 22:37 |
| SlickNik | I'll take that. | 22:37 |
| hub_cap | #info no movement on this yet | 22:37 |
| hub_cap | #action SlickNik to blueprint/own default user for the guest | 22:37 |
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| SlickNik | you're fast. | 22:37 |
| SlickNik | got it. | 22:37 |
| hub_cap | i type for a living SlickNik ;) | 22:37 |
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| spiffxp | slicknik: steveleon seemed like he was running into that, might want to ping him when he's around | 22:38 |
| SlickNik | okay spiffxp, I'll ping and check on steveleon. | 22:38 |
| esp1 | I talked to steveleon today about it looks like he was running into another issue. maybe a bug in reddwarf api for creating a new mysql user? | 22:38 |
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| spiffxp | ah n/m then | 22:39 |
| vipuls | next item? | 22:39 |
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| SlickNik | onwards | 22:40 |
| vipuls | hub_cap fell asleep at the wheel | 22:40 |
| yidclare | maybe their power went out | 22:40 |
| hub_cap | ok now for a fun one | 22:41 |
| hub_cap | man sry... i got booted | 22:41 |
| hub_cap | guess topic change didnt happen, sry all | 22:41 |
| hub_cap | #topic Dealing with Redstack (Integration) | 22:41 |
| hub_cap | lol lost power | 22:41 |
| hub_cap | my bouncer kept me on | 22:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Dealing with Redstack (Integration) (Meeting topic: reddwarf)" | 22:41 | |
| hub_cap | yes it did... can u see my typing? | 22:41 |
| SlickNik | he's back. | 22:41 |
| hub_cap | lol im back yes, connectivity got hosed 5 min after power cycled, im sure they had to cycle the network | 22:41 |
| hub_cap | sorry bouncer makes me appear online :P | 22:41 |
| hub_cap | So, spiffxp didnt u have a review/wiki article in regard to this? | 22:42 |
| SlickNik | no, but we figured since the fast typing stopped. :P | 22:42 |
| spiffxp | znc has this neat auto-away feature I hear... | 22:42 |
| hub_cap | ya i dont like my nick changing... its quite annoying for me | 22:42 |
| hub_cap | hahah SlickNik | 22:42 |
| hub_cap | and ive switched to bip spiffxp, way nicer | 22:43 |
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| vipuls | So esp1, SlickNik have been working with grapex1 on getting redstack with real mode integration testing | 22:43 |
| vipuls | is that what this item is? | 22:43 |
| spiffxp | hub_cap: hm, nope not really, I was planning on starting from from https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack and working backwards | 22:43 |
| hub_cap | well this is _anything_ related to integration, its somewhat nebulous | 22:43 |
| hub_cap | id like to get a gauge for what you guys are dealing w/ in the public, so we can try to make it mo-bettah | 22:44 |
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| grapex | spiffxp: Are you saying you'll change devstack to set up Reddwarf? | 22:44 |
| spiffxp | I'd at least like to understand their framework, if there is one, and push for one for incubating projects if there isn't | 22:44 |
| hub_cap | ya lets keep that conversation going. spiffxp can u start a convo on the ML for that? so we can all see whats going on | 22:45 |
| spiffxp | I've been a bit out of the loop on getting redstack up and running on in-cloud instances, but I think that would at least be a good first step | 22:45 |
| vipuls | grapex, spiffxp: that's sort of the redstack CI action item we discussed.. dkhen, SlickNick are also signed up for that | 22:45 |
| grapex | When we looked in the spring, it seemed devstack wasn't quite built for modularity, so we decided to have redstack call it and then do some additional steps. The modularity of devstack could have improved since then. | 22:45 |
| spiffxp | are you guys still using vagrant as your primary dev / ci env? | 22:46 |
| grapex | spiffxp: These days we all use vmware | 22:46 |
| hub_cap | vipuls: SlickNik can yall start a ML topic on that? | 22:46 |
| grapex | Plus a Cloud Server for CI | 22:46 |
| jcooley | yep, dkehn, slicknick and spiffxp were going to look into what the right thing to do here is. | 22:46 |
| hub_cap | we should _not_ have any reliance on a particular vm tho | 22:46 |
| spiffxp | we're trying really hard to use openstack instances if possible, thinking that might make transition to CI easier | 22:46 |
| jcooley | openstack CI is going to use salt/heat, but... | 22:46 |
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| SlickNik | okay, I'll start a ML topic on this. | 22:47 |
| vipuls | #action SlickNik, vipul, spiffxp, dkhen discuss devstack integration of Redstack in ML | 22:47 |
| dkehn | starting to understand the way baremetal folk integrated into it use the devstack/lib approach seem plausable | 22:47 |
| hub_cap | thx guys | 22:47 |
| SlickNik | thanks vipuls | 22:47 |
| hub_cap | #info reddwarf-integration does _not_ work w/ 12.04 | 22:48 |
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| hub_cap | i didnt mean to make this exclusive to devstack, i likely misnamed it redstack in the meeting notes. i meant anything regarding reddwarf-integration | 22:48 |
| vipuls | #info we haven't gotten 'real mode' tests to work yet | 22:48 |
| spiffxp | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/reddwarf-integration/+bug/1078901 | 22:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1078901 in reddwarf-integration/grizzly "Redstack requires non-LTS ubuntu" [Undecided,New] | 22:49 |
| grapex | vipuls: Have you been able to successfully create a Reddwarf Instance? | 22:49 |
| vipuls | grapex: yep via rd-client, ys | 22:49 |
| hub_cap | ive updated that bug report | 22:49 |
| grapex | vipuls: And the guest wakes up and updates the service status to active? | 22:50 |
| vipuls | grapex: that part seems to work, service status is updated | 22:50 |
| SlickNik | @grapex: yes, we've been able to successfully create a reddwarf instance and get the guestagent running. | 22:50 |
| vipuls | instance state reports as active | 22:50 |
| grapex | cool | 22:50 |
| hub_cap | ok thats good, so _some_ of RDI is working :D | 22:51 |
| vipuls | maybe just need a walkthough of getting real-mode tests to run | 22:51 |
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| hub_cap | ok #grapex to work w/ vipuls to get real-mode tests a-workin | 22:51 |
| hub_cap | doh im dumb | 22:51 |
| spiffxp | possibly related to this topic… where are we on de-duping tests between reddwarf and reddwarf-integration? | 22:51 |
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| vipuls | make that esp1, SlickNik | 22:51 |
| hub_cap | #action grapex to work w/ vipuls to get real-mode tests a-workin | 22:51 |
| hub_cap | doh | 22:52 |
| vipuls | ugh | 22:52 |
| vipuls | :) | 22:52 |
| SlickNik | heh, too fast :P | 22:52 |
| hub_cap | #action make that esp1, SlickNik to work w/ grapex to get real-mode tests a-workin | 22:52 |
| hub_cap | you have been stricken from teh record vipuls | 22:52 |
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| grapex | spiffxp: I'd like to get the public RDI stuf fup and working before de-duping. | 22:52 |
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| spiffxp | k, so is the gate getting rdi running in non-fake mode against a redstack instance? | 22:53 |
| esp1 | grapex: spiffxp: I | 22:53 |
| esp1 | 've made a bit of progress here | 22:53 |
| grapex | spiffxp: Yes. | 22:53 |
| SlickNik | Yeah so the order we're looking at tackling this is: | 22:53 |
| SlickNik | 1. get real mode tests working | 22:53 |
| SlickNik | 2. de-dupe tests | 22:53 |
| SlickNik | 3. Investigate and add CI-gates. | 22:53 |
| SlickNik | does that match up with what you had in mind, grapex? | 22:53 |
| grapex | SlickNik: Looks right. | 22:53 |
| hub_cap | time check about 7 minutes left | 22:53 |
| hub_cap | should we table the feature discussion to next meeting? | 22:54 |
| spiffxp | works for me, moving on? | 22:54 |
| hub_cap | and continue this, or move on | 22:54 |
| vipuls | yep, features next meeting | 22:54 |
| hub_cap | kk, #action talk about Features next wk | 22:54 |
| hub_cap | durn i keep forgetting | 22:55 |
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| hub_cap | #action talk about features next week | 22:55 |
| hub_cap | u gotta start with teh octothorpe | 22:55 |
| SlickNik | in teh beginning, there was hash. | 22:55 |
| hub_cap | ok so if tehre is no more chatter about integration/tests/etc we can move on | 22:56 |
| hub_cap | lol SlickNik | 22:56 |
| hub_cap | So we have 4 min for anything else not covered | 22:56 |
| hub_cap | #topic Open Discussion | 22:56 |
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| vipuls | Adding a new core member.. what will it take | 22:56 |
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| hub_cap | doh i forgot about that, lets chat it up | 22:57 |
| hub_cap | well we can sub out spiffxp for SlickNik if we see fit as a core group | 22:57 |
| vipuls | so spiffxp is leaving us :( -- would liek to get SlickNik added | 22:57 |
| hub_cap | im fine w/ it | 22:57 |
| spiffxp | sadface | 22:57 |
| spiffxp | but +1 | 22:58 |
| hub_cap | abandoneer | 22:58 |
| SlickNik | sad to see spiffxp go :( | 22:58 |
| hub_cap | ok so 3/4 of us +1 the swap, ill make it so now | 22:58 |
| vipuls | +1 | 22:58 |
| vipuls | 4/4! | 22:58 |
| dkehn | +1 | 22:58 |
| hub_cap | lol vipuls u were 3/4 | 22:58 |
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| hub_cap | grapex was the other +1 | 22:58 |
| vipuls | darn | 22:58 |
| vipuls | Wanted to bring up OpenVZ as well | 22:59 |
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| vipuls | after the summit, we had a good idea of what it would take.. i think devananda has done some work to make this possible now | 22:59 |
| hub_cap | good, i want to put our ovz guy back on the push for it | 22:59 |
| vipuls | is this a blueprint item? -- or already on your plate? | 23:00 |
| hub_cap | hes ready, i just need buy in from our mgmt | 23:00 |
| hub_cap | ill be working on it this wk | 23:00 |
| hub_cap | its not a reddwarf BP tho | 23:00 |
| hub_cap | :P | 23:00 |
| vipuls | make sense.. | 23:00 |
| hub_cap | ill give u update next wk on it | 23:00 |
| vipuls | #action hub_cap to provide OVZ update next week | 23:00 |
| hub_cap | #action hub_cap to update group on OVZ adoption in nova | 23:00 |
| hub_cap | LOL | 23:01 |
| hub_cap | i gotta do it twice, geeeez | 23:01 |
| vipuls | heh | 23:01 |
| hub_cap | ok anything else blowin in the wind? | 23:01 |
| datsun180b | should be idempotent | 23:01 |
| hub_cap | #info SlickNik core, spiffxp deactivated | 23:01 |
| vipuls | nice | 23:02 |
| hub_cap | datsun180b: sure :D | 23:02 |
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| hub_cap | ok then if no one has any objection ill be closing the meeting, ill give a min | 23:02 |
| SlickNik | thanks guys. | 23:02 |
| spiffxp | better on time this week :) | 23:03 |
| hub_cap | yar! | 23:03 |
| hub_cap | #endmeeting | 23:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Nov 27 23:03:21 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/reddwarf/2012/reddwarf.2012-11-27-22.02.html | 23:03 |
| vipuls | we have a n00b at the wheel last week | 23:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/reddwarf/2012/reddwarf.2012-11-27-22.02.txt | 23:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/reddwarf/2012/reddwarf.2012-11-27-22.02.log.html | 23:03 |
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| hub_cap | vipuls: we've had a n00b at the wheel every wk! | 23:03 |
| yidclare | clearly we have lots to say... | 23:03 |
| hub_cap | yuppp | 23:03 |
| vipuls | action items grow every week it seems | 23:04 |
| hub_cap | i was _just_ about to say that vipuls | 23:04 |
| hub_cap | ok lets take it to #reddwarf :) | 23:04 |
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