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| primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 14:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 25 14:59:59 2012 UTC. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | morning everyone | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | or good day | 15:00 |
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| primeministerp | we'll start the discussion today with cinder bits for windows | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | #topic cinder | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "cinder" | 15:00 | |
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| primeministerp | pedro I saw that you submitted the code and it successfully made it through jenkins | 15:00 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: ^ | 15:01 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: thanks again | 15:01 |
| pnavarro | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13621/ | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: ping | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: any chance to get a review on ^ | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: thanks for providing the link | 15:01 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: I automated the installation already into the existing puppet bits I created | 15:02 |
| pnavarro | I've changed the blueprint to Needs code review | 15:02 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: perfect | 15:02 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: if we don't get someone to take a look today, I suggest sending something into the mailing list | 15:02 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: so I guess unless we hear from jgriffith we'll move on | 15:03 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: o actually | 15:03 |
| pnavarro | primeministerp: ok ! I'll wait a bit before sending it | 15:03 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: go | 15:03 |
| pnavarro | if not I can try to attend Cinder meeting | 15:03 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: that will work too | 15:03 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: you should probably start attending those regardless if possible | 15:04 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: if not let's coordinate so we can have someone to cover | 15:04 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: also I'm ready to start testing | 15:04 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: those bits as well | 15:04 |
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| pnavarro | primeministerp: I'll try to assist | 15:05 |
| pnavarro | I mean attend | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | i was hoping EmilienM would be on | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | he stated he was going to start the documentation | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | I supplied him with the powershell to setup the windows side | 15:05 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: i'm assuming there's not much more than that | 15:05 |
| pnavarro | I'm talked with Emilien this morning | 15:06 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: actually let's take that off line, because i need to know | 15:06 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: will you have some time after this | 15:06 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: so i can understand as well, the requirements | 15:06 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: i'll add it to the puppet bits | 15:06 |
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| pnavarro | ok primeministerp | 15:06 |
| primeministerp | great | 15:06 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: morning | 15:07 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: er good day! | 15:07 |
| primeministerp | #topic compute installer | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "compute installer" | 15:07 | |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: any status updates | 15:07 |
| alexpilotti | hi guys! | 15:08 |
| alexpilotti | setup almost done | 15:08 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: great | 15:08 |
| alexpilotti | we are working on Keystone AD interaction | 15:08 |
| alexpilotti | Tavi left 5' | 15:08 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: 5am? | 15:08 |
| alexpilotti | I guess he'll need to ask a few things to ayoung | 15:09 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok can you have tavi send an email? | 15:09 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: sure | 15:09 |
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| primeministerp | or if he's available now i think ayoung is around | 15:09 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: well send an email or file a bug | 15:10 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: I added a "OpenStack Command Prompt" to the setup | 15:10 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: great as we discussed | 15:10 |
| ociuhandu | hi all | 15:10 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: so all the path's correct | 15:11 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: howdy | 15:11 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: and variables set | 15:11 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: yep, everything works great so far | 15:11 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: will you have something for me to test? | 15:11 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: the service gets registered flawlessly using Apache deamons | 15:11 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: sure | 15:11 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: great to know, good idea | 15:11 |
| luis_fdez | primeministerp: hi!, sorry, I'was fixing some issues with my friend pep8 | 15:12 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp: we're adding now an "avanced configuration" screen | 15:12 |
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| jgriffith | primeministerp: pong | 15:12 |
| alexpilotti | luis_fdez: did u manage to deploy hyperv already? | 15:12 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: hey thanks for responding | 15:12 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: pnavarro submitted cinder support for windows | 15:13 |
| alexpilotti | luis_fdez: if not I have a setup for you to beta test ;-) | 15:13 |
| luis_fdez | yes, but by the moment in our essex install... | 15:13 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: we were hoping we could get you to review it | 15:13 |
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| primeministerp | jgriffith: we were hoping we could get you to review it | 15:13 |
| jgriffith | primeministerp: haven't seen it yet, but I certainly will take a look | 15:13 |
| alexpilotti | who are the core reviewers for Cinders? | 15:13 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13621/ | 15:14 |
| jgriffith | alexpilotti: myself, clayg, jdurgin, vishy.... | 15:14 |
| luis_fdez | we were following today the fedora openstack test day, and Jan was wondering if you have been thinking about ceilometer support in windows | 15:14 |
| jgriffith | alexpilotti: Best to just look on launchpad | 15:14 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: we have | 15:14 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: pedro and i discussed it yesterday | 15:14 |
| ayoung | primeministerp, alexpilotti yeah, I am around. What is up? | 15:14 |
| alexpilotti | jgriffith: tx, was going to check on launchpad | 15:14 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: but that will probably be a bit off | 15:14 |
| luis_fdez | ok | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: maybe post g cycle unless you are looking to start that work | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: ;) | 15:15 |
| alexpilotti | jgriffith: I tested the cinder Windows volume obits on Windows | 15:15 |
| luis_fdez | hehe | 15:15 |
| primeministerp | ayoung: ociuhandu has some keystone questions | 15:15 |
| ociuhandu | ayoung: I'm trying to figure out the keystone ldap integration with active directory. The endpoints remain defined in the database, only users/tenants/roles are in ldap, right? | 15:16 |
| alexpilotti | jgriffith: what would you suggest for integrating the Windows volume tests in SmokeStack? | 15:16 |
| ayoung | ociuhandu, that is correct | 15:16 |
| jgriffith | alexpilotti: We'll need to talk to the test guys about that | 15:16 |
| jgriffith | alexpilotti: I'm not aware of any windows set-ups as of yet | 15:16 |
| ayoung | ociuhandu, users etc are the identity provider, versus the catalog | 15:16 |
| jgriffith | alexpilotti: But it's something that will be needed in other places as well | 15:17 |
| ayoung | ociuhandu, in the config file, it is: | 15:17 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: that's what we're adding support for | 15:17 |
| ociuhandu | identity vs catalog in config file | 15:17 |
| jgriffith | primeministerp: I understand... what I'm saying is the infrastructure setup itself (ie tempest VM's etc) | 15:17 |
| alexpilotti | jgriffith: yep, we will need also Windows set-up for Hyper-V as well | 15:17 |
| ayoung | [identity] | 15:17 |
| ayoung | # driver = keystone.identity.backends.sql.Identity | 15:17 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: o gotcha | 15:17 |
| jgriffith | alexpilotti: That's what I was thinking | 15:18 |
| ayoung | ociuhandu, ^^ that is from the default file | 15:18 |
| ayoung | ociuhandu, so for LDAP you need | 15:18 |
| ayoung | driver = keystone.identity.backends.ldap.Identity | 15:18 |
| ociuhandu | ayoung: thanks. I'm now working on the mapping for the credentials | 15:18 |
| ayoung | ociuhandu, why | 15:18 |
| jgriffith | primeministerp: alexpilotti Looks good first glance | 15:18 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: great, thanks again for the help | 15:18 |
| ayoung | ociuhandu, ah, you don't mean tokens, OK | 15:18 |
| jgriffith | Would probably do well to submit a blue-print | 15:18 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: pnavarro already did | 15:19 |
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| primeministerp | pnavarro: do you have the link to the blueprint? | 15:19 |
| pnavarro | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/windows2012driver | 15:19 |
| ociuhandu | ayoung: I mean mapping of OU/CN/... | 15:19 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: ^ | 15:19 |
| jgriffith | primeministerp: cool, should modify the commit to include it | 15:19 |
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| primeministerp | jgriffith: great | 15:19 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: thanks for the advice | 15:19 |
| ociuhandu | ayoung: i managed to connect and authenticate keystone but the query results are not yet ok | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: are you on that? | 15:20 |
| pnavarro | ok, I'll modify the commit to include it | 15:20 |
| jgriffith | primeministerp: I don't think we can push this into Folsom at this point but we can get it in trunk | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: i'm fine with that | 15:20 |
| alexpilotti | jgriffith: here's the BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/windows2012driver | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: it was kind of last minute | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: however if you happen to push it into folsom.... | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | ;) | 15:20 |
| jgriffith | primeministerp: Always happens at release :) | 15:20 |
| jgriffith | LOL | 15:20 |
| primeministerp | jgriffith: we'll buy you a beer | 15:20 |
| * jgriffith is easily bribed, but the rest of the team may be different :) | 15:21 | |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: bring those cigars to the conf | 15:21 |
| alexpilotti | jgriffith: primeministerp okok, we'll buy a six pack :-D | 15:21 |
| jgriffith | :) | 15:21 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: i've met some of them, make it a twelve | 15:21 |
| primeministerp | ok, let's progress | 15:22 |
| ayoung | ociuhandu, there are a handful of tickets in for AD issues. You should take a look in the bug tracker | 15:22 |
| primeministerp | #topic AD Integration | 15:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "AD Integration" | 15:22 | |
| primeministerp | ^ | 15:22 |
| primeministerp | lots of stuff already going buy | 15:22 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: you should probably hook up with jose | 15:22 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: have you reached out to him? | 15:22 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: I believe he's already got everything functioning | 15:23 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: not yet, just started the work on this recently | 15:23 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: ok, then I would definately reach out to him. | 15:23 |
| alexpilotti | primeministerp ayoung ociuhandu: beside AD integration, the next step would be Kerberos | 15:24 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: will do for sure | 15:24 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: agree | 15:24 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: did you already think about integrating the full Windows auth in keystone? | 15:24 |
| primeministerp | ayoung: any plans on that? | 15:24 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: anything to add re the AD bits? | 15:25 |
| pnavarro | What about Keystone throug Windows Identity Foundation? | 15:25 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro: great point | 15:25 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: i'm not familiar with that service | 15:25 |
| pnavarro | It abstracts kerberos, and some identity federation services | 15:25 |
| luis_fdez | no, jose is submiting code to keystone... and now... he is busy with the doc | 15:25 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: the code for the ad bits? | 15:26 |
| luis_fdez | yeps | 15:26 |
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| primeministerp | luis_fdez: perfect | 15:26 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: you cought that right? | 15:26 |
| primeministerp | ociuhandu: ^^ | 15:26 |
| alexpilotti | pnavarro primeministerp: I know who is the PM on Identity foundation, I'm going to reach out to him | 15:26 |
| luis_fdez | yes, he should talk with jose | 15:26 |
| primeministerp | AlanClark: perfect | 15:26 |
| luis_fdez | I will let him know that ociuhandu is interested... | 15:26 |
| primeministerp | alexpilotti: er perfect | 15:26 |
| primeministerp | luis_fdez: ok | 15:26 |
| ayoung | alexpilotti, Kerberos requires fixes to the Eventlet container | 15:27 |
| ociuhandu | primeministerp: yes | 15:27 |
| primeministerp | great | 15:28 |
| ayoung | alexpilotti, which is most easily done this way: http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/03/keystone-should-move-to-apache-httpd/ | 15:28 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: is there a bug for that? | 15:28 |
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| ayoung | alexpilotti, the code is already checked in for it, but I think I had a bug. Let me see if I submitted a fix | 15:29 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: what about moving it to IIS ;-) | 15:29 |
| ayoung | alexpilotti, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13048/ | 15:29 |
| ayoung | alexpilotti, feel free. | 15:29 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: on IIS we could leverage the Windows Integrated authentication | 15:30 |
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| primeministerp | ok, | 15:31 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: the fix for HTTPS is simply a conf path issue. The rest works already fine on Apache? | 15:31 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: meant HTTPD, darn autocorrector | 15:31 |
| primeministerp | ok | 15:32 |
| ayoung | alexpilotti, yes | 15:32 |
| ayoung | HTTPS works, too. Heh | 15:32 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: lol | 15:32 |
| primeministerp | #topic documentation | 15:33 |
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| alexpilotti | ayoung: so you have already tested it w Kerberos? | 15:33 |
| primeministerp | #topic ad/kerberos | 15:33 |
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| primeministerp | alexpilotti: ^ | 15:33 |
| ayoung | alexpilotti, http://adam.younglogic.com/2012/03/ssl-nss-easy/ | 15:33 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: tx!! | 15:34 |
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| primeministerp | #topic documentation | 15:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "documentation" | 15:36 | |
| primeministerp | ok docs were submitted | 15:36 |
| primeministerp | some changes have been made, | 15:36 |
| primeministerp | EmileM helped with those | 15:36 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: he also offered to help with the docs for the cinder bits | 15:36 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: i'm assuming that's what you were discussing earlier | 15:36 |
| pnavarro | primeministerp: yes | 15:37 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: perfect | 15:37 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: i'll follow up with him as well when I see him online. | 15:37 |
| primeministerp | #topic CI work | 15:37 |
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| pnavarro | primeministerp: yes, he said so | 15:37 |
| primeministerp | so still pugging away | 15:38 |
| primeministerp | got a lot of the puppet automation done | 15:38 |
| primeministerp | still working to get more physical assets and some free hands to help rack | 15:38 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: i have san however I don't see how we can use it for cinder | 15:38 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: given how the iscsi bits work | 15:39 |
| pnavarro | primeministerp: what kind of SAN? | 15:39 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: emc | 15:39 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: low end | 15:39 |
| primeministerp | and about 15 hbas | 15:39 |
| alexpilotti | jgriffith ayoung: we have a bug in setup.py of all the python-*client packages. I fixed it for novaclient: https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1052161 | 15:40 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1052161 in python-novaclient "setup.py build fails on Windows due to hardcoded paths" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 15:40 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: it's supposed to have 20 tb | 15:40 |
| pnavarro | primeministerp: I think there is no EMC cinder plugin | 15:40 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: I have to rerack it | 15:40 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: there's prob not | 15:40 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: but for hosting hba's through hyper-v to vms | 15:40 |
| primeministerp | pnavarro: we'll have to see | 15:41 |
| alexpilotti | jgriffith ayoung: should I submit similar bugs for python-cinderclient, python-keystoneclient, etc? | 15:41 |
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| pnavarro | primeministerp: ok | 15:41 |
| primeministerp | anyone have anything else to add | 15:41 |
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| alexpilotti | jgriffith ayoung: or do you know if there's a "unified" way to handle them? | 15:41 |
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| ayoung | alexpilotti, for the love of god no! | 15:42 |
| ayoung | Um, go ahead | 15:42 |
| ayoung | Heh. | 15:42 |
| pnavarro | I'd like to add that I'd be working to modify volume bits in nova to call new Storage WMI API | 15:42 |
| heckj | alexpilotti: link them to the projects instead - it'll save a lot of typing and share that it's a common bug | 15:42 |
| heckj | alexpilotti: I just linked up python-keystoneclient | 15:43 |
| alexpilotti | heckj: so it's simply "link a related branch"? | 15:43 |
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| heckj | alexpilotti: from the bug page, there's a "Also affects project" hyperlink that's easiest to use | 15:44 |
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| alexpilotti | heckj ayoung: but do I have to commit separate fixes for review (referring the same bug number)? | 15:45 |
| alexpilotti | heckj: tx, didn't see it! :-) | 15:45 |
| heckj | alexpilotti: yep - although I thought I'd do the keystone client one right now | 15:45 |
| alexpilotti | heckj: great! | 15:45 |
| heckj | alexpilotti: since this is coming form the openstack-common code, you'll want to link in that project as well | 15:46 |
| alexpilotti | heckj: ok | 15:46 |
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| primeministerp | ok guys if that's it, i'm going to end the meeting | 15:47 |
| mprasad | going forward, do we have any pointers for quantum implementation in HyperV | 15:47 |
| primeministerp | o | 15:47 |
| primeministerp | great | 15:48 |
| primeministerp | mprasad: we're thinking about that now | 15:48 |
| primeministerp | mprasad: our goal is to implement the quantum bits during the G cycle | 15:48 |
| primeministerp | mprasad: are you interested in assisting with those efforts | 15:48 |
| mprasad | also about multi network configuration? | 15:49 |
| ayoung | alexpilotti, yes, as each commit goes to a different project, and is approved by a different set of devs. For example, I could approve only the fix for Keystone | 15:49 |
| mprasad | yes, can give a try | 15:49 |
| primeministerp | mprasad: let's discuss further in #openstack-hyper-v after this meeting | 15:49 |
| primeministerp | mprasad: for networking now we only support flat | 15:49 |
| alexpilotti | ayoung: event if it's part of openstack-common? | 15:49 |
| primeministerp | mprasad: i was playing with lacp and vlans using the 2012 vswitch yesterday but there's not code for anything yet | 15:49 |
| mprasad | primeministerp: ok, thanks for the info | 15:50 |
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| primeministerp | ok continue discussions in the #openstack-hyper-v channel | 15:50 |
| primeministerp | #endmeeting | 15:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 25 15:50:37 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-09-25-14.59.html | 15:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-09-25-14.59.txt | 15:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2012/hyper_v.2012-09-25-14.59.log.html | 15:50 |
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| dolphm__ | o/ | 18:00 |
| heckj | keystone meeting? | 18:00 |
| heckj | o/ | 18:00 |
| heckj | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 25 18:00:52 2012 UTC. The chair is heckj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
| heckj | agenda: http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:01 |
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| heckj | Anything suggested for RC blockers? | 18:02 |
| heckj | As of a few days ago, I hadn't seen anything - wanted to ask broadly though | 18:02 |
| dolphm__ | yes | 18:03 |
| dolphm__ | well, maybe | 18:03 |
| heckj | bug? | 18:03 |
| dolphm__ | the comment at the end of https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1046905 | 18:03 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1046905 in keystone "Memcached Token Backend does not support list tokens" [Critical,Fix released] | 18:03 |
| * heckj reads | 18:03 | |
| dolphm__ | i'm working to open a bug for it (so far, i've only reproduced it outside of keystone, against the memcache client directly): http://paste.openstack.org/raw/21112/ | 18:03 |
| dolphm__ | in this case, i' | 18:04 |
| heckj | that looks like a good one - agree it should RC block | 18:04 |
| dolphm__ | i'm not sure i understand how we've never seen this error before, as we have no protection against unicode keys (memcache requires ascii strings as keys) | 18:04 |
| heckj | let's open a new bug with that last comment and mark it up - you want me to do that? | 18:04 |
| dolphm__ | anyway, i think the suggested fix in that bug needs to be applied across *all* calls to the memcache client | 18:05 |
| dolphm__ | doing it now | 18:05 |
| heckj | I'd believe it | 18:05 |
| ayoung | \O/ | 18:05 |
| heckj | howdy! | 18:06 |
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| heckj | ayoung: you got anything as a blocker for RC? | 18:06 |
| ayoung | Nope | 18:06 |
| ayoung | Agree that https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1046905 should be | 18:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1046905 in keystone "Memcached Token Backend does not support list tokens" [Critical,Fix released] | 18:07 |
| ayoung | but that comment at the end is probably not related to the earlier changes | 18:07 |
| heckj | #action dolph to create new bug from comment #5 in https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1046905 - mark it as RC blocker | 18:07 |
| heckj | ayoung: yep | 18:08 |
| heckj | Okay - topic switch, the controversial one | 18:08 |
| heckj | #topic - where to put auth_token | 18:08 |
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| heckj | goal is to get it somewhere where it can be it's own package | 18:08 |
| heckj | options - 1) put in keystoneclient | 18:08 |
| heckj | 2) make a new repo for it | 18:09 |
| heckj | 3) put in openstack-common | 18:09 |
| heckj | 4) maybe others? | 18:09 |
| heckj | ayoung: you were concerned about the dependencies that are needed for the PKI work - suggestion for how/where to break this out so that all projects don't have to fully install keystone to get the code they need? | 18:09 |
| dolphm__ | opened bug 1056373 | 18:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1056373 in keystone "memcache driver needs protection against non-string keys" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056373 | 18:10 |
| ayoung | well, if people want just auth_token, they should not be just copying the file around. So first thing is we have to break them of the bad habits. | 18:10 |
| gyee | +1 on 2) | 18:10 |
| dolphm__ | heckj: define package -- python package or distro package? | 18:10 |
| ayoung | why do we need a new repo? Python can't be that broken | 18:11 |
| ayoung | there should be no problem with making multiple packages out of one git repo. | 18:11 |
| heckj | dolphm__: new package meaning something at pypi and something that can be a separate distribution package (both) | 18:11 |
| ayoung | why should there be a difference between python package and distro package? | 18:12 |
| dolphm__ | mtaylor explained why we need a seperate git repo on the mailing list | 18:12 |
| heckj | ayoung: I've not seen a terribly clean way to have a single setup.py generate two python packages | 18:12 |
| ayoung | yes, and I deleted my response telling everyone it was dumb | 18:12 |
| ayoung | but it is dumb | 18:12 |
| gyee | we (HP) consumes middleware independently of Keystone backend | 18:12 |
| ayoung | just didn't want to get in a flameware | 18:12 |
| gyee | middleware is just like another client | 18:13 |
| ayoung | er, a flamewar without flame wear? | 18:13 |
| heckj | gyee: we already got that - it's just a question of how to do it | 18:13 |
| ayoung | gyee, agreed. | 18:13 |
| ayoung | It should be do-able out of the existing repo structure. | 18:13 |
| gyee | separate repo, easy to consume | 18:13 |
| dolphm__ | gyee: you mean you use auth_token but not the keystone service implementation, right? | 18:13 |
| gyee | dolphm_ correct | 18:13 |
| mordred | hang on ... reading scrollback for what's dumb... | 18:14 |
| dolphm__ | gyee: i imagine that's a common approach | 18:14 |
| gyee | we extends middleware to add our own customization | 18:14 |
| heckj | ayoung: you want to dig around on some ways to do it since you don't like the separate repo idea? | 18:14 |
| mordred | ayoung: ah - yes. python is, in fact, that broken | 18:14 |
| ayoung | <mugatu>Is the whole world taking crazy pills?</mugatu> | 18:14 |
| ayoung | mordred, thanks | 18:14 |
| gyee | in fact, middleware tests should be completely separate from Keystone backend tests | 18:15 |
| dolphm__ | i'd officially like to change my vote from python-keystoneclient to a new repo | 18:16 |
| heckj | ayoung: what's your suggestion for how to wrangle this? | 18:16 |
| dolphm__ | the catch is that we need two new repos | 18:17 |
| dolphm__ | e.g. keystonecommon and keystonemiddleware | 18:17 |
| mordred | do we really need keystonecommon? | 18:17 |
| dolphm__ | mordred: there's some code that's shared between auth_token and the keystone service | 18:18 |
| dolphm__ | mordred: i assume it should be extracted and pulled in as a dep to both keystonemiddleware and keystone | 18:18 |
| dolphm__ | i could see keystoneclient consuming it as well | 18:18 |
| ayoung | heckj, let me take a look at the python utilities. If they really are as broke as all that, I'll suggest an overall file structure. | 18:18 |
| heckj | ayoung: I'm fine with deferring this until you've had a chance to dig a bit. I suspect you'll want more than a file structure. The constraint from CI is that one repo has one setup.py - and we'll need to respect that. | 18:19 |
| dolphm__ | ayoung: actually, what if the encryption stuff was *only* in the client? and keystone was dependent on the client | 18:19 |
| ayoung | dolphm_, nope | 18:19 |
| dolphm__ | and keystonemiddleware was also dependent on the client | 18:19 |
| ayoung | I tried that | 18:20 |
| ayoung | it has the effect of confusing the code, too | 18:20 |
| dolphm__ | ? | 18:20 |
| ayoung | server shouldn't depend on middleware | 18:20 |
| gyee | we should refactor common/utils | 18:20 |
| ayoung | and, as I said, there are multiple middlewares out there | 18:20 |
| gyee | i.e. middleware doens | 18:20 |
| gyee | t depend on passlib | 18:20 |
| gyee | but we import it anyway | 18:20 |
| ayoung | gyee, right, that is just mixed in the utils | 18:21 |
| dolphm__ | ayoung: server depend on the client | 18:21 |
| ayoung | hashlib is needed, not passlib\ | 18:21 |
| dolphm__ | ayoung: make everything depend on the client | 18:21 |
| gyee | middleware needs hashlib? | 18:21 |
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| ayoung | dolphm_, we can do lots of things that will "solve" the problem. Lets first try for doing it straightforward, but still readable | 18:22 |
| heckj | #action ayoung to dig on utilities to see what can be done to break up PKI dependencies for auth_token having it's separate package to pypi | 18:23 |
| dolphm__ | from keystoneclient.utils import validate; validate.token(token_id) | 18:23 |
| dolphm__ | or from keystoneclient.v3 import tokens; tokens.validate(token_id) | 18:24 |
| heckj | dolphm__, gyee, ayoung : can we continue the details of the structure discussion in IRC post meeting? - I'd like to move on to summit topics | 18:25 |
| dolphm__ | yep | 18:25 |
| heckj | #topic summit topics | 18:25 |
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| ayoung | dolphm_, are you sure you want to merge auth_token into client? | 18:25 |
| ayoung | OK, I can table, too | 18:25 |
| heckj | I went through summit.openstack.org and http://etherpad.openstack.org/GrizzlyKeystoneSessions and started to try and rectify | 18:26 |
| ayoung | For summit, I plan on talking about AD integration and Federation. I also have my current "Intro to Keystone" talk ready to go | 18:26 |
| dolphm__ | ayoung: no, i changed my vote to putting it in its own repo | 18:26 |
| heckj | ayoung: I think the PKI next steps needs a new blueprint to keep things clear - could you create one? | 18:26 |
| dolphm__ | ayoung: awesome | 18:26 |
| heckj | definitely on the topics of federation and AD integration | 18:27 |
| heckj | Those are all pre-approved now | 18:27 |
| ayoung | heckj, sure, although I think the PKI next steps is kindof wrapped up in Federation, at least my view of Federation | 18:27 |
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| heckj | ayoung: wasn't sure how it overlapped, but I wanted to keep it clear from the blueprint that you already have done, since we wrapped that up in Folsom | 18:27 |
| heckj | (trying to keep a blueprint limited to a release cycle) | 18:28 |
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| gyee | ayoung, you really want discovery service? :) | 18:28 |
| ayoung | gyee, no | 18:28 |
| heckj | There's a couple other topics from the etherpad: | 18:28 |
| ayoung | gyee, I want to register a client keystone server with a cetnraolized keystone server and keep it like that | 18:28 |
| ayoung | I'll do a blueprint for PKI future, just to keep that stuff clear | 18:28 |
| heckj | 2factor/multifactor auth - who's wanting/needing that one that can drive the discussion and is interested in the implementation? | 18:28 |
| ayoung | We can use it for Federation, but if we go the Kent approach, I still want it to go in | 18:29 |
| gyee | I kinda like discovery for openstack | 18:29 |
| ayoung | heckj, I have some small knowledge of that field, but my dance card is full | 18:29 |
| gyee | no endpoints from keystone | 18:29 |
| gyee | just discover them :) | 18:29 |
| heckj | dolphm__: last summit, Joe Savak was talking about a lot about it (multifactor auth) - is that something you'd be focusing on? | 18:30 |
| ayoung | gyee, no. Just...no | 18:30 |
| dolphm__ | heckj: i'm not sure we need/want multifactor implementation in openstack. however, i do think the v3/tokens API needs to support MFA if possible | 18:30 |
| ayoung | heckj, lets get the talk on the schedule, and plan on moderating. I'll participate, so at least we will have something to talk about. You or Dolph can propose | 18:31 |
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| dolphm__ | heckj: that's one of the reasons i haven't implemented anything on /tokens yet | 18:31 |
| heckj | KK - will verify there's a BP on multifactor and a topic for discussing at the summit | 18:31 |
| heckj | gyee: since you're bouncing all around - are there any summit topics that you're wanting to present and drive in implementation? | 18:31 |
| gyee | heckj, we have a generic signature validation middleware if you guys are interest in hearing about it | 18:32 |
| heckj | ayoung: there's nothing scheduled for a general "intro to keystone" talk - where you planning on submitting that talk? | 18:32 |
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| dolphm__ | do we still have those breakout/whiteboard sessions? | 18:33 |
| heckj | gyee: the question was more around "Is there a topic or code you'd like introduce into keystone that you're willing to drive?" -I'm always interested in hearing about interesting implementations and effort | 18:33 |
| heckj | dolphm__: which whiteboard sessions? We can also make something, but I'm not aware of anything explicit on the shcedule for it | 18:34 |
| gyee | heckj, I don't know yet. I'll check with the HP higher-ups to see what I can do. Will let you know. | 18:35 |
| ayoung | heckj, I had suggested it a while back. I thought you were planning on giving it, but I kept mine in my back pocket, since I am giving it to my team next week anyway | 18:35 |
| ayoung | Also, since I already submitted 3, wasn't sure I should go for Four, but willing to do so | 18:35 |
| heckj | ayoung: why don't we have you do it at the summit as well. I can, but I have created anything for an intro | 18:35 |
| dolphm__ | gyee: i'd be interested in that | 18:35 |
| heckj | ayoung: I'm not worried about you submitting all the talks - I damn near did that last summit :-) | 18:36 |
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| ayoung | heckj, fine, just don't nominate me as PTL | 18:36 |
| heckj | heh | 18:36 |
| heckj | I'll be moderating and expect to do so | 18:36 |
| heckj | Actually, I think the federation talk will be the most difficult - so many ideas and goals that folks have wrapped there | 18:37 |
| heckj | dolphm__: any specific topics you want to submit or drive? | 18:37 |
| ayoung | heckj, so I can call it either "Introduction to Keystone" or "Keystone internals." Depending on how we want to advertise it? | 18:37 |
| heckj | my preference to Keystone internals <-- want to keep it clear to internal on developing keystone, not using keystone | 18:38 |
| heckj | unless it's really abouy deploying/using | 18:38 |
| dolphm__ | heckj: v3 api -- but i don't think that deserves a session | 18:39 |
| heckj | KK | 18:39 |
| heckj | actually, I think a session on it would be useful - at least to talk to status and show where it's at during the summit | 18:39 |
| heckj | I'd be happy to propose, run, and wrangle since I did the all the wrangling on the drafts | 18:39 |
| dolphm__ | heckj: what, presenting the spec? lol | 18:40 |
| heckj | dolphm__: in a sense, yeah - at least giving everyone outside of keystone a chance to talk about the "how to use it" API details | 18:40 |
| dolphm__ | heckj: or a "here's what's new, request for feedback" type thing | 18:41 |
| heckj | dolphm__: yeah, pretty much | 18:41 |
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| heckj | #topic open discussion | 18:41 |
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| heckj | That's all i had - feel free to resume package setup/dependency discussion | 18:42 |
| gyee | middleware should be light and independent | 18:42 |
| gyee | just like an mobile app | 18:42 |
| dolphm__ | +1 | 18:42 |
| gyee | think of middleware repo as an app repo | 18:43 |
| dolphm__ | sudo mkdir github.com/openstack/keystone-middleware | 18:44 |
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| ayoung | heckj, http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/edit/76 | 18:47 |
| heckj | ayoung: approved! We have 3 hours unscheduled - won't be surprised to have last minute things fly at us | 18:49 |
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| heckj | all quiet for 5 minutes or so | 18:54 |
| heckj | #endmeeting | 18:54 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 25 18:54:58 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-09-25-18.00.html | 18:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-09-25-18.00.txt | 18:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2012/keystone.2012-09-25-18.00.log.html | 18:55 |
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| jeblair | ci ppl? | 18:59 |
| fungi | yep | 18:59 |
| clarkb | hi | 18:59 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting ci | 18:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 25 18:59:55 2012 UTC. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:59 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ci' | 18:59 |
| jeblair | last meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-09-18-19.07.html | 19:00 |
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| jeblair | seems like a CLA status update might be in order | 19:00 |
| fungi | yes | 19:00 |
| jeblair | #topic gerrit/foundation CLA integration | 19:00 |
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| jeblair | fungi: go for it! | 19:00 |
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| pabelanger | hi | 19:01 |
| fungi | the contributor agreement and contact information features of gerrit are fully operational to demo on review-dev.openstack.org | 19:01 |
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| fungi | we're still waiting on the foundation to get us a contact information server | 19:01 |
| fungi | so for now, it posts to a dummy server i've got running elsewhere | 19:02 |
| clarkb | fungi: the contact info server is just a collection point for user data? | 19:02 |
| fungi | and the foundation is likely going to want to make adjustments to the cla text itself (i ripped it from the wiki) | 19:02 |
| fungi | clarkb: yes | 19:02 |
| jeblair | fungi: so basically just waiting on reed and jbryce at this point. | 19:02 |
| fungi | clarkb: mailing address, phone numbers | 19:02 |
| fungi | jeblair: correct | 19:03 |
| fungi | if you have an account on review-dev, you'll see your old signed cla is "expired" | 19:03 |
| fungi | you can sign a new one, and you can also submit "contact information" (which can be anything, even just a .) | 19:03 |
| jeblair | clarkb: and the idea here is the foundation server will use the receipt of this information not only as a legal record, but to update db information on its side as to who's eligible to vote, etc. | 19:04 |
| clarkb | jeblair: nice | 19:04 |
| fungi | any validation of said contact information must be performed post-decryption on the foundation side | 19:04 |
| fungi | also, if the foundation server returns anything other than a 200 OK (or fails to respond at all), gerrit will not record that the information was successfully submitted and the user will have to try again later | 19:05 |
| jeblair | clarkb: so they can use that to ensure that your gerrit email addr matches one you've registered with the foundation, which will provide the positive link between the 2 dbs | 19:06 |
| fungi | once contact information is submitted and a cla "signed" (by typing I AGREE), then the user can submit commits to gerrit again | 19:06 |
| fungi | until then, they get one of a couple of error messages back on the ssh port when attempting write operations | 19:06 |
| fungi | either stating that their cla has expired and they must sign a new one, or that their signed cla requires submission of contact info | 19:07 |
| jeblair | #action jbryce provide a test foundation server | 19:07 |
| fungi | so anyway, all of that is tested and working on review-dev now | 19:07 |
| clarkb | is it possible to apply the CLA changes to review.o.o without enforcement (use LP sync until jbryce is ready)? | 19:07 |
| fungi | we could push everything except the db change | 19:08 |
| clarkb | I guess we need to have patience this week regardless so that isnt a big deal | 19:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: what changes would those be? | 19:08 |
| clarkb | jeblair: adding the CLA to review.o.o, applying the bug fixes, etc | 19:08 |
| fungi | the bug fixes are already applied | 19:08 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i must be missing something; review.o.o has a cla.... | 19:08 |
| fungi | and the puppet infrastructure is in place, just missing a handful of lines in review.pp and hiera/site.pp | 19:09 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I guess my question is better phrased as, "Is it safe to change the puppet manifest for openstack_project::gerrit.pp to be like review_dev.pp?" | 19:09 |
| jeblair | clarkb: no, because we can't change the CLA process until the new foundation server is ready | 19:10 |
| clarkb | k | 19:10 |
| jeblair | clarkb: until then, echosign and ~openstack-cla is the existing process | 19:10 |
| fungi | anyway, that's all i have on cla/contacts unless there are questions | 19:11 |
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| fungi | i have a couple other projects we can discuss, or table to -infra more informally | 19:12 |
| jeblair | fungi: lets hit those at the end | 19:12 |
| jeblair | #topic translations | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: did you "solve django with GabrielHurley" ? :) | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: no, GabrielHurley is a hard person to get a hold of. That may need to wait for the summit; however, I have been floating some ideas on how to solve this issue | 19:13 |
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| clarkb | First translation jobs for non django jobs appear to be working and are stabel | 19:14 |
| jeblair | clarkb: do you want to propose a summit session for this topic? | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: (yay!) | 19:14 |
| clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:transifex/translations+status:merged,n,z | 19:15 |
| clarkb | jeblair: probably not a bad idea. | 19:15 |
| clarkb | #action clarkb propose summit session for translations | 19:15 |
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| heckj | yay! | 19:15 |
| heckj | clarkb: do you need me to poke Gabriel? | 19:16 |
| clarkb | heckj: that would be great for a quick chat after this meeting | 19:16 |
| heckj | clarkb: I'll see if I can wrangle him up | 19:16 |
| clarkb | I think Horizon translations can be handled as a special case of the existing jobs. The basics of what the job need to do don't change, just the commands to extract messages do | 19:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: http://summit.openstack.org/ | 19:17 |
| jeblair | clarkb: that sounds reasonable under the circumstances. | 19:17 |
| clarkb | eg the gerrit commands, git commands, and transifex commands are static | 19:18 |
| clarkb | but I need to confirm with Gabriel that that is the case | 19:18 |
| jeblair | #topic mordred | 19:19 |
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| jeblair | #action mtaylor is now known as mordred | 19:19 |
| jeblair | just for the record. | 19:19 |
| jeblair | and he did register the summit topics he said he would last week. :) | 19:20 |
| fungi | he also announced the inception of #link http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra | 19:20 |
| fungi | in case anyone missed it on -dev | 19:20 |
| jeblair | #action everyone sign up for http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra | 19:21 |
| fungi | and we have our first e-mail, from david kranz, asking for help | 19:21 |
| mordred | yeah. please do that - there was a message I was going to send to that list -but then I realized nobody was on it yet | 19:21 |
| mordred | yay! | 19:21 |
| pabelanger | done | 19:21 |
| * jeblair just signed up | 19:21 | |
| mordred | now if I could remember what I wanted to talk about ... | 19:22 |
| * fungi fears he was subscriber #2 | 19:22 | |
| jeblair | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2012-September/000000.html | 19:22 |
| jeblair | so, who else has a topic? fungi? (mordred, when ever you remember...) | 19:24 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: did we update jenkins between now and the last meeting? | 19:25 |
| clarkb | time is all blended together | 19:25 |
| jeblair | clarkb: i believe we did | 19:25 |
| jeblair | #topic jenkins upgrade | 19:25 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "jenkins upgrade" | 19:25 | |
| mordred | JENKINS UPGRADE FAIL FAIL FAIL | 19:26 |
| jeblair | with ttx's blessing, we unfroze the CI systems (they are in a soft freeze around release) | 19:26 |
| jeblair | and upgraded jenkins to fix a (nasty) remote vulnerability | 19:26 |
| jeblair | which uncovered the fact that jenkins is remarkably poorly tested befor release | 19:26 |
| mordred | s/poorly/not/ | 19:27 |
| jeblair | and completely hosed us because someone committed a patch without realizing that jenkins has a json api | 19:27 |
| jeblair | so, um, uncool. | 19:27 |
| jeblair | anyway, we're now running a daily build in production to address that | 19:27 |
| jeblair | thanks to lifeless who remembered that daily builds exist. | 19:28 |
| clarkb | I think it is a release candidate build | 19:28 |
| jeblair | yeah, i think they build everything on the rc branch, or something like that. it was 3am at the time, i don't remember all the details. | 19:29 |
| ttx | jeblair: you could also have compiled your own. | 19:29 |
| ttx | Or not. | 19:29 |
| clarkb | as a result of that I think we lost four precise slaves | 19:29 |
| jeblair | ttx: yeah, an option we considered, but we would have had to actually do that, and we kinda needed it fixed "right now" | 19:29 |
| ttx | jeblair: it's not really fun or easy | 19:30 |
| clarkb | precise6,9,10,14 are all not accepting ssh connections | 19:30 |
| jeblair | ttx: as opposed to "when one of us gets a dev box with all the right java bits installed and figures out how to build it". | 19:30 |
| jeblair | clarkb: did mordred (or mtaylor) ever get around to kicking those for you? | 19:31 |
| mordred | jeblair: mtaylor was supposed to | 19:31 |
| mordred | jeblair: but I haven't seen him in a while | 19:31 |
| jeblair | #action corvus to ask mordred to have mtaylor kick slaves | 19:32 |
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| mtaylor | DIE DIE DIE | 19:32 |
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| pabelanger | why the nick change anyways? | 19:32 |
| mordred | availability | 19:33 |
| mordred | I've been mordred everywhere else since around 93 | 19:33 |
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| mtaylor | just because | 19:33 |
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| mordred | but some other guy had it on here | 19:33 |
| jeblair | so, other jenkins problems... | 19:33 |
| jeblair | it looks like even thought we removed all the stuff that should have been causing jenkins to enforce builds finish in order (which we don't care about).... | 19:34 |
| jeblair | it still does it anyway | 19:34 |
| jeblair | (removing things like the junit results was, according to bug reports, supposed to address that) | 19:34 |
| jeblair | that could be a new "feature" added by our recent upgrade | 19:35 |
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| jeblair | at any rate, it seems that occasionally jenkins can still get stuck after the build has succeeded or failed, but before it's really finished | 19:36 |
| jeblair | in that case, i don't _believe_ the timeout plugin will help us | 19:36 |
| jeblair | that merits testing, and if it's the case, perhaps we should have zuul time out and abort jenkins builds | 19:36 |
| jeblair | (or implement a robotic "ttx") | 19:37 |
| jeblair | any thoughts | 19:37 |
| jeblair | ? | 19:37 |
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| jeblair | #topic puppet | 19:38 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "puppet" | 19:38 | |
| jeblair | pabelanger has been kicking puppet into shape, by removing our weird modules and replacing them with real modules (either ours, or someone else's (like his)) | 19:39 |
| jeblair | which is great | 19:39 |
| pabelanger | Yup, infact almost finished with the gate-ci-puppet-lint | 19:40 |
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| jeblair | #action pabelanger add gate-ci-puppet-lint job | 19:41 |
| pabelanger | however, it will fail pretty hard until puppet-lint passes | 19:41 |
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| jeblair | cool, well even while it's non-voting, we can check the output on changes | 19:41 |
| jeblair | #topic global bacon shortage | 19:42 |
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| jeblair | #link http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/24/bacon-sausage-shortage_n_1909609.html | 19:42 |
| clarkb | oh no. | 19:42 |
| jeblair | fungi: i'm pretty sure you said you had more topics? :) | 19:42 |
| clarkb | jeblair: we have had more changes submitted for zuul | 19:42 |
| clarkb | I think wikimedia is attempting to use it so yay | 19:42 |
| jeblair | #topic zuul | 19:42 |
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| jeblair | yes, zuul has sprouted contributors! | 19:42 |
| fungi | yeah, i have planning questions on two new projects (managing jenkins global config, and symbolic-ref entries to map release names to git branches) but i can save those for #o-infra or the ml unless anyone finds them exciting | 19:43 |
| jeblair | i think the new -ifra list will be a good place for other ppl to talk about zuul, job builder etc... | 19:43 |
| fungi | agreed, three cheers for the ml | 19:43 |
| jeblair | and i think after the current freeze, we may need to run those projects more like real projects -- discuss/announce big changes, migrations, etc... and maybe not freeze trunk because of openstack's schedule. | 19:44 |
| jeblair | (which may mean our running zuul not from trunk) | 19:44 |
| jeblair | #topic jenkins global config | 19:44 |
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| jeblair | fungi: whatcha got? | 19:44 |
| fungi | well, looks like there is an almost-sane feature in jenkins to reload its configuration on the fly | 19:45 |
| fungi | it has a bug, currently, wherein it forgets about any running jobs | 19:45 |
| clarkb | ha | 19:45 |
| fungi | there are some workarounds and one proposed patch in their bug tracker | 19:45 |
| jeblair | fungi: i dunno, sounds like we can use that to fix our other problem! ;) | 19:46 |
| jeblair | fungi: link to bug? | 19:46 |
| fungi | so a configuration merge script fed from puppet, with that fixed, might make configuration on-disk manageable | 19:46 |
| fungi | yeah, pulling it now--just a sec | 19:46 |
| fungi | #link https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-3265 | 19:47 |
| fungi | with that solved, i think a merge script to a new fd, move the old config out of the way and rename the new one into place, api call to reload... | 19:48 |
| fungi | then re-merge against the old config again and make sure it still produces the same new config (to check for any possible race where jenkins tried to update it in the interim) | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | I am going to but in but apevec in -dev says the cert on review.o.o is verified by an agency that FF no longer trusts | 19:49 |
| fungi | i went down the api route first, but its global configuration via webui uses totally different code not backed by its api | 19:49 |
| jeblair | clarkb: ack | 19:50 |
| fungi | (the jenkins api seems to be an afterthought, added to ease management of individual job configs) | 19:50 |
| jeblair | fungi: yeesh. | 19:50 |
| clarkb | :( | 19:50 |
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| jeblair | fungi: so i don't think this is important enough to, eg, build our own jenkins to solve it... | 19:50 |
| jeblair | fungi: but maybe keep an eye on that, and when it's fixed, take another look? | 19:51 |
| fungi | jeblair: i agree | 19:51 |
| jeblair | #topic symbolic-ref | 19:51 |
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| fungi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/995604 | 19:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 995604 in openstack-ci "use symbolic-ref from gerrit to provide moving codename targets" [High,In progress] | 19:52 |
| fungi | yay bot | 19:52 |
| * koolhead17 waves | 19:52 | |
| fungi | i added several branches to a project on my test gerrit and then added symbolic-ref entries for them | 19:52 |
| fungi | seems to work just fine from a gerrit perspective | 19:53 |
| fungi | however, symbolic-ref is a local concept, and won't get automatically replicated to github or anything (if that was the intent) | 19:53 |
| clarkb | fungi: is there any way to force replication? | 19:53 |
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| jeblair | (it was the intent, so i think replication to github is a requirement | 19:54 |
| fungi | clarkb: none that i could find. github added a button on their webui to skin it | 19:54 |
| fungi | you can't push a symbolic-ref to a git server, for example | 19:54 |
| jeblair | also, even if we do replicate to github... if it's not automatic or easy to get in clones, it may be less useful... | 19:54 |
| fungi | you can push to a symbolic-ref which the server takes as a means of pushing to the branch to which it refers | 19:55 |
| jeblair | instructions that say "run 'git checkout folsom'" that don't always work would be bad... | 19:55 |
| fungi | and you can clone from it, but you wind up with a local branch named whatever the symbolic-ref's name was | 19:55 |
| fungi | which may be enough | 19:56 |
| jeblair | i think one of the main use cases was for intra-project dependencies, so someone could pip-require a git repo with a pointer to folsom... | 19:57 |
| jeblair | but i think that's largely handled by tarballs.... | 19:57 |
| jeblair | so.... | 19:57 |
| jeblair | #action mordred document use cases for bug 995604 | 19:57 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 995604 in openstack-ci "use symbolic-ref from gerrit to provide moving codename targets" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995604 | 19:57 |
| fungi | i can summarize my findings more eloquently in an update to the lp bug | 19:57 |
| jeblair | fungi: then we'll know how to procede. :) | 19:58 |
| jeblair | fungi: cool | 19:58 |
| fungi | that's it for me | 19:58 |
| jeblair | eloquence ftw (he says ironically) | 19:58 |
| jeblair | thanks everyone! | 19:58 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 19:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 25 19:58:32 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-09-25-18.59.html | 19:58 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-09-25-18.59.txt | 19:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ci/2012/ci.2012-09-25-18.59.log.html | 19:58 |
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| jeblair | how did we end up in "open disussion" ? | 19:58 |
| clarkb | jeblair: I think it was the topic before you started the meeting | 19:59 |
| clarkb | meetings reset the topic | 19:59 |
| jeblair | i know, but how did _that_ happen | 19:59 |
| fungi | it's certainly a nice default topic at any rate | 19:59 |
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| ttx | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | o/ | 21:00 |
| ttx | heckj, bcwaldon, jgriffith, vishy, gabrielhurley, danwent: around ? | 21:01 |
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| danwent | o/ | 21:01 |
| gabrielhurley | o/ | 21:01 |
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| heckj | o/ | 21:02 |
| ttx | ok, enough to start I guess | 21:02 |
| soren | o/ | 21:02 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting project | 21:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 25 21:02:28 2012 UTC. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'project' | 21:02 |
| ttx | Agenda @ http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
| ttx | 2 days to final Folsom release! | 21:02 |
| ttx | #info We'll soon be in show-stoppers mode -- new RCs should only be triggered by release deliverables issues or annoying regressions with obviously safe fixes | 21:03 |
| ttx | #topic Keystone status | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Keystone status" | 21:03 | |
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| ttx | heckj: o/ | 21:03 |
| ttx | #info Keystone has a long-standing RC1 that might be a winner! | 21:03 |
| heckj | about to break it | 21:03 |
| heckj | bug 1056373 -> for an RC2 | 21:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1056373 in keystone "memcache driver needs protection against non-string keys" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056373 | 21:04 |
| zykes- | hah :p | 21:04 |
| ttx | hah! | 21:04 |
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| ttx | not even properly tagged so that it flies below my radar, nice | 21:04 |
| heckj | found and linked it up this morning - was a comment on a fixed bug elsewhere | 21:04 |
| ttx | heckj: business summary ? Why couldn't we fix it in stable/folsom ? | 21:05 |
| heckj | utf-8 broken-ness that none of us tested previously - actually intend to backport to essex as well - not an explicit regression so much as a nasty, nasty bug | 21:06 |
| soren | I don't understand how users can trigger it? | 21:06 |
| heckj | soren: dolphm_ nailed it down this morning, associated review has tests to verify the fix | 21:07 |
| ttx | heckj: technically it could be fixed post-release but you've been pretty calm in the RC front, so... | 21:08 |
| heckj | that's it though - code review in progress, looking pretty good | 21:08 |
| ttx | heckj: how safe is that fix ? | 21:08 |
| heckj | ttx: yeah - would just prefer to get it fixed ASAP. | 21:08 |
| heckj | ttx: very | 21:08 |
| heckj | could easily do backports for resolving it if you'd prefer | 21:08 |
| ttx | heckj: ok, will open a RC2 window, and tag tomorrow morning at the latest | 21:09 |
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| ttx | #info Keystone RC2 window with bug 1056373 in | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1056373 in keystone "memcache driver needs protection against non-string keys" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056373 | 21:09 |
| ttx | heckj: nothing else, right ? | 21:10 |
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| heckj | ttx: process question - we need to fix in master and also backport into milestone-proposed, correct? | 21:10 |
| ttx | heckj: yes, push the fix to master then backport to MP | 21:10 |
| heckj | cool, thanks. Nothing else | 21:10 |
| ttx | heckj: I can handle that part if the fix is committed to master | 21:10 |
| ttx | will ping you just after meeting | 21:10 |
| ttx | Looking at release notes status now: | 21:10 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Folsom#OpenStack_Identity_.28Keystone.29 | 21:10 |
| ttx | heckj: No upgrade notes ? | 21:10 |
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| heckj | ttx: i'll put some in there re: PKI tokens | 21:11 |
| ttx | Also, could you add links to bugs in the known issues section ? | 21:12 |
| heckj | yep | 21:12 |
| ttx | ok | 21:12 |
| ttx | How is planning for the Design Summit "Keystone" topic going so far ? | 21:12 |
| ttx | I see 6 sessions proposed over a total of 9 available slots, not bad | 21:12 |
| heckj | pretty good shape - 3 open slots, expecting some to come in last minute based on last summit. | 21:12 |
| heckj | core bits are all there | 21:12 |
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| ttx | heckj: anything else ? | 21:12 |
| heckj | nope | 21:12 |
| ttx | Questions about Keystone ? | 21:13 |
| ttx | heckj: milestone opened @ https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/folsom-rc2 with bug targeted | 21:13 |
| ttx | heckj: please land fix in master asap | 21:13 |
| ttx | #topic Swift status | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | hi | 21:14 |
| ttx | notmyname: hi! | 21:14 |
| ttx | #info Swift has 1.7.2 as Folsom candidate | 21:14 |
| ttx | notmyname: Everything still looking good on that side ? | 21:14 |
| notmyname | mostly, but there is one possible thing that has come up | 21:14 |
| notmyname | https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1055834 | 21:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1055834 in swift "Memory Leak" [Critical,Fix committed] | 21:14 |
| ttx | Was wondering if that was a regression or something that's been around forever | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | this was just patched | 21:14 |
| notmyname | ya, I think it's been around for a while | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | ie not a regression from some recent patch | 21:15 |
| ttx | then I'd say let's fix it in a later version | 21:15 |
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| ttx | rather than rush a 1.7.3 for folsom inclusion | 21:15 |
| ttx | or 1.7.4 or whatever | 21:15 |
| ttx | notmyname: thoughts ? | 21:15 |
| notmyname | of course, I'd prefer to have it the release so that I can remove the "Known Issues" ;-) | 21:15 |
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| ttx | if people have been living with it so far, must not be that obvious of a leak | 21:16 |
| notmyname | I don't know what's possible from your side, but from our side it's in master and vetted | 21:16 |
| ttx | notmyname: hrrm. | 21:17 |
| * ttx looks at the fix | 21:17 | |
| notmyname | I'm going to push for the fix to go in folsom, but we'll have a release soon after. either way, it will get fixed. it's more an issue of how soon people get it (ie if they only use the openstack 6-month releases) | 21:18 |
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| ttx | Looks a bit dangerous to me | 21:18 |
| ttx | notmyname: distros can carry the patch if they want | 21:19 |
| ttx | notmyname: and due to swift using full versions we'd have to play tricks with versions again. | 21:20 |
| notmyname | I don't really have a response to that :-/ | 21:20 |
| ttx | sigh | 21:20 |
| creiht | lol | 21:20 |
| creiht | I'll comment... Patch not added because it would be inconvenient | 21:20 |
| creiht | >:) | 21:21 |
| ttx | well, usually when we cut a release we have RAX QA go over it for 4 days | 21:21 |
| ttx | now you're telling me a one-hour-old patch is safe to ship... | 21:21 |
| notmyname | well, it's actually already in RAX prod | 21:21 |
| ttx | ah. that counts | 21:22 |
| ttx | notmyname: ok, let's do it ... 1.7.3 ? 1.7.4 ? | 21:22 |
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| ttx | notmyname: are you up to aligning the versioning on the different branches ? | 21:23 |
| notmyname | sorry, lag here | 21:23 |
| notmyname | ya, so 1.7.4 for milestone proposed and 1.7.5 for master. I'll include the version bump in the backport | 21:23 |
| ttx | notmyname: go for it | 21:24 |
| ttx | I can cut/release tomorrow morning if the branches are all set | 21:24 |
| ttx | another topic: | 21:24 |
| ttx | How is planning for the "Swift" topic at the design summit going so far ? | 21:24 |
| notmyname | they'll be ready this afternoon | 21:24 |
| notmyname | good. we have a few proposals so far, and I've got a backlog of stuff to talk about to | 21:24 |
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| notmyname | we're having a swift meeting next monday about it | 21:25 |
| notmyname | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2012-September/001368.html | 21:25 |
| ttx | notmyname: ok, just send me an email confirming the commit ID for 1.7.4 and I'll make it happen | 21:25 |
| notmyname | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2012-September/001368.html | 21:25 |
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| ttx | notmyname: was wondering if we couldn't give the two Tuesday morning slots to the "QA" topic | 21:25 |
| ttx | given that "QA" topic is already over capacity (10 proposed for only 5 available slots) | 21:25 |
| ttx | Swift would have 8 session slots (instead of 10) and QA would have 7 (instead of 5) | 21:25 |
| ttx | would your schedule fit into that ? | 21:25 |
| notmyname | ah. ya, let me see what's in the queue, but there is a chance of that. who should I coordinate with about that? | 21:25 |
| ttx | notmyname: me a jaypipes | 21:26 |
| gabrielhurley | ttx: you'll probably be able to steal two or so from Horizon, too, just FYI | 21:26 |
| ttx | s/a/and/ | 21:26 |
| notmyname | ok, will do | 21:26 |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: it's more difficult to steal from horizon | 21:26 |
| ttx | because the topics are not contiguous | 21:26 |
| gabrielhurley | ah | 21:26 |
| ttx | notmyname: anything else ? | 21:26 |
| ttx | Questions on Swift ? | 21:27 |
| notmyname | SF Bay meetup on Oct 11, if you're in the area | 21:27 |
| notmyname | that's all I have | 21:27 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glance status" | 21:27 | |
| ttx | bcwaldon: o/ | 21:28 |
| ttx | #info Glance had its RC2 published earlier today | 21:28 |
| ttx | notmyname: created https://launchpad.net/swift/+milestone/1.7.4 | 21:28 |
| ttx | looks like we don't have bcwaldon | 21:29 |
| ttx | danwent: around ? | 21:29 |
| danwent | yup | 21:29 |
| ttx | #topic Quantum status | 21:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Quantum status" | 21:29 | |
| ttx | #info Quantum had its RC2 published Friday and we have a RC3 already cooking | 21:29 |
| ttx | which should be published just after the meeting | 21:29 |
| ttx | danwent: Is there anything on the rc-potential list that we should add ? | 21:30 |
| ttx | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-rc-potential | 21:30 |
| ttx | Don't think any of those is a show-stopper that needs to be fixed /before/ release | 21:30 |
| danwent | i'm not planning on doing anything for the zmq stuff for the folsom release | 21:30 |
| danwent | things still seem up in the air and rabbit + qpid are fully supported | 21:30 |
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| danwent | just want people to be aware | 21:31 |
| danwent | two other issues are very minor | 21:31 |
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| ttx | danwent: should we remove zmq from quantum completely ? | 21:31 |
| ewindisch | ttx/danwent: I believe only dhcp_agent won't work. | 21:31 |
| ttx | ISTR someone suggested that, haven't looked up the thread since meetign started | 21:31 |
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| ewindisch | the other agents should work, but you might need to use an external matchmaker to reasonably scale more than a few nodes. | 21:32 |
| danwent | ewindisch: ok, so in theory someone could use the plugin agents with zmq, but not dhcp | 21:32 |
| ewindisch | (the matchmaker is pluggable) | 21:32 |
| ewindisch | danwent: yes - in theory, anyway. | 21:32 |
| ewindisch | I'm certainly okay with ZeroMQ marked as experimental, especially in relation to Quantum. | 21:33 |
| danwent | I would say we document that zmq is experimental for Quantum and note that in particular DHCP won't work. | 21:33 |
| ttx | danwent: sounds good | 21:33 |
| danwent | :) | 21:33 |
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| ttx | danwent: so we are good to cut RC3 ? | 21:33 |
| danwent | yes | 21:33 |
| ttx | Looking at release notes status now: | 21:34 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Folsom#OpenStack_Network_Service_.28Quantum.29 | 21:34 |
| ttx | Same remark: you should add link to bug in the known issues section | 21:34 |
| ttx | And a bit more verbosity couldn't hurt. | 21:34 |
| danwent | ok. | 21:34 |
| ttx | Planning for the "Quantum" topic at the Design Summit... | 21:34 |
| ttx | I see 9 proposals over a total of 22 slots so far | 21:34 |
| danwent | basically, the core team hasn't even started proposing yet | 21:34 |
| ttx | yeah, that's what I suspected | 21:35 |
| danwent | they have (thankfully) been focused on folsom :) | 21:35 |
| ttx | danwent: Anything else ? | 21:35 |
| danwent | nope. after thursday, i'll start encouraging folks to propose sessions | 21:35 |
| ttx | (and people still asking me why the design summit track is not aligned in CFP with the other tracks | 21:35 |
| ttx | ) | 21:35 |
| ttx | Questions on Quantum ? | 21:35 |
| ewindisch | danwent; also worth noting that it needs the binary from Nova :( | 21:35 |
| ttx | jgriffith: around? | 21:36 |
| danwent | ewindisch: ok, can you send me a note with what you want in the docs about zmq? | 21:36 |
| jgriffith | ttx: howdy | 21:36 |
| ewindisch | okay | 21:36 |
| ttx | #topic Cinder status | 21:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder status" | 21:36 | |
| ttx | #info Cinder got its RC2 out earlier today | 21:36 |
| ttx | Looking at the RC-potential list now: | 21:36 |
| ttx | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-rc-potential | 21:36 |
| ttx | bug 1055401 | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1055401 in nova "[ietd] can not delete volume sucessfully" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1055401 | 21:37 |
| ttx | bug 1056246 | 21:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1056246 in nova "using tgt-admin --conf option creates false sense of security, volume attach still fails after tgtd restart" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1056246 | 21:37 |
| ttx | Are those regressions ? Failures in new features ? | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | Regressions for the most part | 21:37 |
| jgriffith | Results of new changes that went in that weren't found in Ubuntu, but in Fedora test day | 21:38 |
| ttx | the --conf thing is a bit scary to me.. reverting it restores the bug that it was supposed to fix, no ? | 21:38 |
| jgriffith | ttx: Not really... that was my first thought | 21:38 |
| eglynn | ttx: it didn't really fix it | 21:38 |
| jgriffith | ttx: It fixes it for one use case | 21:38 |
| eglynn | ttx: (didn't survive accross tgtd restarts) | 21:38 |
| jgriffith | ttx: So that part is still all good | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | ttx: I took the conf file out a while back as it wasn't *needed* | 21:39 |
| ttx | so we restore the original (critical) bug ? | 21:39 |
| ttx | rather than half-fixing it ? | 21:39 |
| jgriffith | ttx: No | 21:39 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: It's been a bit of a sorted tail... the original fix for the critical bug I dind't have the conf file option in there anywya | 21:39 |
| markmc | ttx, the issue is that distros/users need to modify the tgtd config file - /etc/tgtd/targets.conf | 21:40 |
| eglynn | ttx: it wasn't even really a half-fix, just gave a false sense of initial security | 21:40 |
| jgriffith | It was pointed out that if we have the persist file we should use it in tgt-adm udpates | 21:40 |
| markmc | ttx, the "fix" we're reverting just masked that requirement | 21:40 |
| ttx | hhmkay. so you'd like to do a RC3 over those two fixes ? | 21:40 |
| markmc | ttx, I added some details to http://etherpad.openstack.org/nova-folsom | 21:40 |
| ttx | rather tha fixing them in stable/folsom ? | 21:40 |
| jgriffith | ttx: Those two and if we're doing one might as well add: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13581/ | 21:41 |
| ttx | jgriffith: ok... I'll delay the decision on that one until we do Nova | 21:41 |
| jgriffith | ttx: fair enough | 21:41 |
| ttx | since that would also trigger a Nova RC3 | 21:41 |
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| jgriffith | The first two will as well FWITW | 21:42 |
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| ttx | yeah | 21:42 |
| ttx | Cinder release notes at: | 21:42 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Folsom#OpenStack_Block_Storage_.28Cinder.29 | 21:42 |
| ttx | jgriffith: Not so much in there so far, planning to work on it ? | 21:42 |
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| jgriffith | ttx: Yes I certainly am | 21:43 |
| ttx | Time is running short | 21:43 |
| ttx | Cinder topic at the Design Summit so far: | 21:43 |
| ttx | 5 proposals for 7 available slots, looking good | 21:43 |
| ttx | jgriffith: Anything else before we switch to Nova ? | 21:43 |
| jgriffith | Yep, someobody's going to get cut :) | 21:43 |
| jgriffith | Nope | 21:43 |
| ttx | Questions on Cinder ? | 21:43 |
| ttx | vishy: around ? | 21:43 |
| vishy | yup | 21:43 |
| ttx | #topic Nova status | 21:43 |
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| ttx | #info Nova got its RC2 out earlier today | 21:44 |
| ttx | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=folsom-rc-potential | 21:44 |
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| ttx | if we trigger a RC3 due to Cinder... anything else you'd add to it ? | 21:44 |
| vishy | yes | 21:44 |
| ttx | in addition to the above-mentioned 3 ? | 21:44 |
| vishy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13649/ | 21:45 |
| vishy | that one | 21:45 |
| ttx | ok then, let's do another round | 21:45 |
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| vishy | I haven't found any other's that seem worth the risk yet | 21:46 |
| vishy | there are a few other good fixes but i think they are fine through stable/folsom | 21:46 |
| ttx | vishy: I'd rather have a very short list at this point | 21:46 |
| vishy | I marked them folsom-backport-potential | 21:46 |
| ttx | given that time to go through gate will quickly become a factor in borking the release | 21:46 |
| ttx | so let me open Cinder RC3 and Nova RC3 and target appropriately | 21:47 |
| ttx | jgriffith: https://launchpad.net/cinder/+milestone/folsom-rc3 <- please target your 3 bugs to it | 21:48 |
| ttx | vishy: https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/folsom-rc3 <-- please target your 4 bugs to it | 21:48 |
| ttx | or 5 if that last review really fixes two bugs | 21:48 |
| ttx | Let's have a look at Nova release notes: | 21:49 |
| ttx | http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Folsom#OpenStack_Compute_.28Nova.29 | 21:49 |
| ttx | Quite empty so far, more in prep @ http://etherpad.openstack.org/nova-folsom | 21:49 |
| ttx | vishy: Maybe time to move it over ? | 21:49 |
| vishy | ttx: soon. I want to add a bit more to fetures | 21:50 |
| ttx | vishy: oh btw anything we'd do wrt zmq in that RC3 ? | 21:51 |
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| vishy | yes ignore it | 21:51 |
| vishy | :) | 21:51 |
| ttx | I'm fine with that if you are. | 21:51 |
| vishy | looks like the change didnt' go into quantum anyway, so we are leaving the old implementation in for folsom | 21:51 |
| ttx | Design Summit planning now... I see 18 proposals for 31 available slots | 21:52 |
| ttx | Would be good to spend some of the next Nova meeting(s) looking into what's missing | 21:52 |
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| ttx | vishy: Anything else ? | 21:52 |
| vishy | ttx: agreed. I haven't even looked at it yet | 21:52 |
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| ttx | we ahve two weeks between release and summit this time around, so not as much as a rush | 21:52 |
| ttx | Questions on Nova ? | 21:53 |
| ttx | #topic Glance status | 21:53 |
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| ttx | bcwaldon: o/ | 21:53 |
| markmc | vishy, I added "zmq is experimental" to the nova release notes | 21:53 |
| ttx | #info Glance had its RC2 published earlier today | 21:53 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: my apologies for lateness | 21:53 |
| ttx | No folsom-rc-potential bugs: | 21:53 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: well | 21:53 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: refresh | 21:53 |
| vishy | markmc: good call :) | 21:53 |
| * ttx sobs | 21:53 | |
| bcwaldon | ttx: eglynn has one | 21:53 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: its not a dealbreaker, but it might help us get to critical mass for an rc3 | 21:54 |
| ttx | eglynn: remind me not to buy you beers at the summit. | 21:54 |
| bcwaldon | burn | 21:54 |
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| * eglynn slinks off ... | 21:54 | |
| * russellb buys eglynn two beers for having to take that from ttx | 21:54 | |
| ttx | bcwaldon: that would be the only fix ? | 21:54 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: so far, yes | 21:55 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: and it's very minor | 21:55 |
| ttx | the only reason why I'd consider it is that it's less mainful to change config opts before release than after | 21:56 |
| ttx | painful* | 21:56 |
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| ttx | it's a new option, right ? | 21:56 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: ok, fair point | 21:56 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: its new for folsom | 21:56 |
| ttx | rabbit_durable_queues | 21:56 |
| ttx | right, ok then | 21:56 |
| eglynn | yep, new in glance, existing elsewhere | 21:57 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: ok, maybe that raises priority | 21:57 |
| ttx | eglynn: it's fixed everywhere else ? | 21:57 |
| eglynn | ttx only broken in glance | 21:57 |
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| ttx | eglynn: ok then | 21:57 |
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| bcwaldon | eglynn: it was an attempt to get parity in glance with the rest of the projects, one minor oversight though | 21:57 |
| ttx | will open RC3 and target only that one to it | 21:57 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: ^ | 21:57 |
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| bcwaldon | ttx: ok, sorry :( | 21:58 |
| ttx | Release notes status: | 21:58 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'm just trying to keep you busy | 21:58 |
| ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Folsom#OpenStack_Image_Service_.28Glance.29 | 21:58 |
| eglynn | ttx: thanks! | 21:58 |
| ttx | nothing like 6 respins on D-1 | 21:58 |
| ttx | maybe 7, gabrielhurley hasn't talked yet | 21:58 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: way to put things in perspective | 21:58 |
| ttx | Release notes could use a bit more verbosity, otherwise looks good | 21:59 |
| ttx | Also add link to bug in the known issues section | 21:59 |
| ttx | "Glance" topic at the design summit: 2 proposals for 5 available slots so far | 21:59 |
| ttx | bcwaldon: Anything else ? | 21:59 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: no sir, I havent looked at those proposals, either | 22:00 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: I'll shift into planning phase next week | 22:00 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/glance/+milestone/folsom-rc3 with one bug on it | 22:00 |
| ttx | Questions on Glance ? | 22:00 |
| ttx | #topic Horizon status | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon status" | 22:00 | |
| ttx | gabrielhurley: around ? | 22:00 |
| gabrielhurley | RC2 stands as good, no new blocking bugs; release notes will be pasted into wiki momentarily; summit track needs more work. ;-) | 22:00 |
| ttx | other PTLs: see ? that's how to do it | 22:01 |
| gabrielhurley | lol | 22:01 |
| bcwaldon | ttx: don't you start | 22:01 |
| * heckj trips gabrielhurley | 22:01 | |
| jgriffith | gabrielhurley: show off! | 22:01 |
| gabrielhurley | I have to sit through an hour of y'all talking! | 22:01 |
| heckj | blah blah blah | 22:01 |
| ttx | Questions for Horizon ? | 22:02 |
| gabrielhurley | <3 | 22:02 |
| bcwaldon | gabrielhurley: I love that I was way late but still got stuck back in rotation before you | 22:02 |
| danwent | gabrielhurley: show off :P | 22:02 |
| ttx | more difficult for heckj; he does not know what the exam will be about since he goes first | 22:02 |
| * gabrielhurley doesn't envy heckj | 22:02 | |
| heckj | that's ok - I just make it up as I'm going along anyway | 22:02 |
| ttx | #topic Other Team reports | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Other Team reports" | 22:02 | |
| heckj | who needs planning and forethough | 22:03 |
| ttx | annegentle: around ? how is documentation going ? | 22:03 |
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| * markmc has a stable/essex update | 22:03 | |
| annegentle | around | 22:03 |
| ttx | markmc: priority to the ladies | 22:03 |
| markmc | ttx, yep :) | 22:03 |
| annegentle | why thank you | 22:03 |
| annegentle | lots of good doc reviews going through. I'm doing my best to keep Quantum's builds going well. | 22:03 |
| annegentle | The redesign of the docs landing pages is now done. | 22:04 |
| bcwaldon | annegentle: good work on that redesign | 22:04 |
| annegentle | Realized today I hadn't linked in all the docs.openstack.org/developer links | 22:04 |
| ttx | annegentle: so we are in reasonably good shape for release time ? | 22:04 |
| annegentle | bcwaldon: thanks | 22:04 |
| ttx | even if it's always work in progress ? | 22:04 |
| annegentle | ttx: I'd like some help with a scientific way to call docs "done" | 22:04 |
| annegentle | ttx: the bug list is still over 100 | 22:04 |
| annegentle | ttx: and they're tagged and triaged quite well | 22:05 |
| annegentle | so, I'm looking for the best backlog/task/bug management for docs ideas | 22:05 |
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| annegentle | because, we'll need to freeze at some point for translators | 22:05 |
| ttx | annegentle: yes, we need to discuss that. Doc / release interlock | 22:05 |
| annegentle | also, I'm still seeking one more Documentation topic for the Design Summit - one presenter had to relinquish his spot | 22:05 |
| ttx | annegentle: maybe more suggestions will come up | 22:06 |
| annegentle | that's it, thanks for listening | 22:06 |
| ttx | not a big deal if you have an empty slot though, gives flexibility in scheduling | 22:06 |
| ttx | markmc: go ahead | 22:06 |
| markmc | so, stable/folsom will open this week | 22:06 |
| ttx | Friday hopefully | 22:06 |
| markmc | and stable/essex will go into mothball mode | 22:06 |
| markmc | I'm hoping to do a 2012.1.3 release | 22:07 |
| * ttx googles | 22:07 | |
| markmc | thinking 2012-10-11 | 22:07 |
| markmc | I can't do it next week | 22:07 |
| markmc | latest status is: | 22:07 |
| markmc | nova: 10 fixes merged, 4 pending, 2 other potentials | 22:07 |
| markmc | glance: nothing merged or pending, 1 potential | 22:07 |
| markmc | keystone: 2 security fixes (critical/high), 3 others merged | 22:07 |
| markmc | horizon: 1 security fix (medium), 3 others merged, 2 more potential | 22:07 |
| markmc | .. | 22:07 |
| markmc | so all but glance already have stuff worth doing a release for | 22:07 |
| markmc | basically, I reckon this would be a nice way to close out stable/essex and move on to stable/folsom | 22:08 |
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| ttx | markmc: I suspect some will pick up stable/essex branch maint | 22:08 |
| ttx | but yes, stable release wise... | 22:09 |
| markmc | ttx, right, "mothball" is too strong :) | 22:09 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: markwash has a patch in review that is a major candidate for glance stable/essex | 22:09 |
| ttx | markmc: sounds like a plan | 22:09 |
| ttx | markmc: anything else ? | 22:09 |
| markmc | ttx, nope, thanks | 22:09 |
| ttx | Any other team lead with a status report ? | 22:09 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 22:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion" | 22:09 | |
| ttx | #info TC elections are running until the end of day Thursday! | 22:10 |
| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 22:10 |
| markmc | bcwaldon, this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/essex/+bug/1012820 | 22:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1012820 in glance "Diablo->Essex migration breaks Nova image_ref" [High,In progress] | 22:10 |
| heckj | ttx: backport to milestone/proposed for Keystone RC2 is up and processing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/13667/ | 22:10 |
| bcwaldon | markmc: yes sir | 22:10 |
| markmc | bcwaldon, saw your comment that you'll backport a fix alright | 22:10 |
| ttx | ok, let's make it happen | 22:10 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 22:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack meetings || Development in #openstack-dev || Help in #openstack" | 22:10 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 25 22:10:45 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:10 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-09-25-21.02.html | 22:10 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-09-25-21.02.txt | 22:10 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/project/2012/project.2012-09-25-21.02.log.html | 22:10 |
| ttx | heckj: awesome, will cut RC2 with that landed, unless you raise a red flag in an email | 22:11 |
| heckj | ttx: yep, thanks | 22:12 |
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