Wednesday, 2012-01-18

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mtaylordanwent: ola01:11
mtaylordanwent: python-quantumclient in gerrit, and we have a config we're testing to do tox-based unittest runs with cached venvs ... so far it looks good, so python-quantumclient's setup looks like it's going to be a good example to look at for other things01:12
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danwentmtaylor: great, thanks01:13
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mtaylordanwent: I'll send a followup email as soon as it's solid, as well as quantum patches for review01:14
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jaypipesQA meeting in 17 minutes...16:43
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LinuxJedifor some bizarre reason I thought it was CI meeting today.  Need more coffee obviously :)17:00
jaypipesLinuxJedi: no, but you're welcome to sit in on the QA meeting :)17:01
Ravikumar_hphi Jay17:01
jaypipesdonaldngo_hp, dwalleck_nova, Ravikumar_hp, all: ready for QA meeting?17:01
Ravikumar_hpyes17:01
LinuxJedijaypipes: I'll certainly watch it, not sure if can contribute much17:01
jaypipes#startmeeting17:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 18 17:01:36 2012 UTC.  The chair is jaypipes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.17:01
donaldngo_hpready17:02
jaypipes#topic Outstanding Code Reviews17:02
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jaypipes#link https://review.openstack.org/#q,status:open+project:openstack/tempest,n,z17:02
LinuxJedijaypipes: might be good to note that when my script goes live on production the bottom three there will get instantly abandoned17:03
jaypipesOne of the things I was hoping to address today was proper commit messages...17:03
jaypipesLinuxJedi: cool :)17:03
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jaypipesI'd like everyone to work with their respective teams to ensure that when you write commit messages, they have the following:17:05
jaypipesa) Reference to the LP Bug that the patch fixes -- Something like "Fixes LP#XXXXX" is fine17:05
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Ravikumar_hpok17:05
jaypipesb) That the commit message's first line is a short description of the patch, and then later lines have a longer description, if necessary17:06
jaypipesc) DO NOT put comments about minor fixups or style corrections in commit messages.17:06
jaypipesd) If, during fixing things from a review, you DO make a more major change to the code, then DO update the commit message to include information about that new change17:07
jaypipesIf we can all focus on the above points, tracking patches to LP bugs will be much easier17:07
dwalleck_novasure, all sounds reasonable to me17:08
jaypipesSo... can we all agree to the above? Any questions about that?17:08
Ravikumar_hpwe need to add those guidelenes17:08
Ravikumar_hpso any new person cal adhere to that17:08
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: If we are in agreement, I will add them to the QA docs and to the email I send to the ML after this meeting17:08
jaypipesSo, if you agree, please #agreed17:08
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Ravikumar_hp#agreed17:08
dwalleck_nova#agree17:08
dwalleck_nova#agreed17:09
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donaldngo_hp#agreed17:09
jaypipesOK, well that's good enough for now I suppose... I know a few folks are AFK right now17:09
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jaypipes#action jaypipes to write up guidelines for commit msgs to QA docs and ML email17:09
jaypipesOK, next topic ...17:10
jaypipes#topic Push for completing Compute API test coverage17:10
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jaypipesSo... let me explain...17:10
jaypipesI'd like this group to come up with a deadline for getting full coverage of the Compute 1.1 API done.17:11
jaypipesHowever...17:11
jaypipesThere are 2 distinct groups among us: those working on Diablo-based systems and those working on Essex-based systems17:11
jaypipesWe need, of course, Tempest to run properly against both17:11
jaypipesAnd so...17:11
jaypipesI'm hoping that we can come together and push towards getting the Compute API coverage done *and tested* against BOTH Diablo and Essex environments17:12
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jaypipesOne thing that has hindered us so far is that some individuals writing test cases have not been running Tempest against a real environment before pushing their changes17:13
jaypipesWe need to stop doing that :)17:13
dwalleck_novaI know there are some minor differences, but I think we can modify the tests to be intelligent enough to handle it17:13
jaypipesIn order to stop doing that ASAP, it is important to get Tempest running against Diablo ASAP17:13
Ravikumar_hpjaypipes: we do not have tests for API extensions. That some of us here working on17:13
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: could you explain a bit more?17:13
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: are you saying that you are writing the extension test cases but do not have an environment with those extensions installed?17:14
Ravikumar_hpsecurity groups , and key pairs - New tests are being added17:14
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: see my ? above ^^17:14
Ravikumar_hpNo . i think the environment is good enough to test extensions17:15
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: ok, I don't think I'm understanding you...17:15
donaldngo_hpare all the extensions included in the devstack deploy?17:15
jaypipesdonaldngo_hp: yep17:15
jaypipesdonaldngo_hp: but I didn't think you all were testing against devstack?17:16
donaldngo_hpravi and others are17:16
jaypipesah, sorry, ok makes more sense now.17:16
donaldngo_hpim trying to get tempest to run cleanly on our prod env17:16
jaypipesBUT, that said, I don't think Ravi ran Tempest against a devstack for the most recent SecurityGroups tests ;)17:16
Ravikumar_hpJaypipes: my answer is to your question for  - compute API coverage" ,17:17
jaypipessince there was a typo that caused an ImportErrort17:17
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: k. I just want to ensure that everyone who is writing test cases is running Tempest locally before pushing code to review.17:17
Ravikumar_hpjaypipes: will enforce.17:18
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: that goes for all of us. It's absolutely essential to avoid issues like we had yesterday.17:18
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: coolio.17:18
Ravikumar_hpJaypipes: missed yesterday17:18
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: no worries17:18
jaypipesalright, so looking at the list of Tempest bugs...17:19
jaypipes#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&fi17:19
jaypipeseld.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search17:19
jaypipesay ya yai...17:19
dwalleck_novaheh17:19
jaypipessorry about that guys17:19
jaypipes#link http://bit.ly/w4i5td17:19
jaypipesmuch better..17:19
jaypipesSo, here's the deal...17:20
jaypipeswe need to get all the unassigned bugs assigned.17:21
jaypipesIf you give me permission, I will assign bugs out to individual contributors evenly17:21
dwalleck_novaThat sounds fair17:22
Ravikumar_hpjaypipes: i will look at it pick up some for my team in next hour17:22
jaypipesBy Friday, I'd like to be able to say to mtaylor and jeblair that we are near complete compute API coverage and that next week, we should be able to beta test gating Nova and Glance trunk against Tempestr runs.17:22
jaypipesAfter all, the end goal is to have Tempest gating trunk17:22
dwalleck_novaAbsolutely17:22
jaypipesalright then.17:23
Ravikumar_hpjaypipes: we need to migrate Swift tests also17:23
Ravikumar_hpfrom Kong17:23
dwalleck_novaJose? Carlos?17:23
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: yep, but Compute API is #1 priority rtight now.17:23
dwalleck_novaI have a dynamic duo working on that :)17:23
Ravikumar_hpjaypipes : i agree17:23
jaypipes#action jaypipes to assign remaining test-needed bugs on Compute API and follow up with individual contributors on progress.17:24
dwalleck_novajaypipes: How many bugs do you think it will be per team?17:24
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: 10-1517:24
dwalleck_novaI just want to understand what the work commitment would be17:24
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: new test case bugs only (test-needed tag)17:24
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: estimate around 1 hour per bug17:24
dwalleck_novajaypipes: gotcha, understood17:25
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: to get to code review17:25
Ravikumar_hpjaypipes: keystone also in the list (bugs in LP) .17:25
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: yes, but after Compute17:25
jaypipesRavikumar_hp: I will focus on compute this week17:25
jaypipesI will be assigning a few bugs (test-needed bugs) to myself, but my #1 priority task right now is getting Tempest running successfully against a Diablo environment17:26
jaypipesOK, let's move on to Test Case style discussion, if that's ok with everyone?17:27
jaypipesAntoniHP_: around?17:27
dwalleck_novasure17:27
Ravikumar_hpAntoni is on vacation today17:28
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jaypipesah, ok.17:28
jaypipesThen we shall shelve that discussion to next week.17:28
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: may we discuss this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/91797317:29
nati2Hi folks. Sorry late17:29
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 917973 in tempest "Refactor authentication out of rest client" [Medium,In progress]17:29
jaypipesnati2: no probs17:29
dwalleck_novasure17:30
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: I want to make sure I understand exactly what you are proposing there.17:31
dwalleck_novaSure, shoot and I'll tell you what I was thinking17:31
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: so, my impression of the correct place to put the authentication process is in the base rest client, like is in novaclient: https://github.com/openstack/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/client.py17:32
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: because of the need to track the X-Auth-Token header value throughput the API call lifecycle, I feel the best place to put that tracking is in the base client.17:33
dwalleck_novajaypipes: Right, that was my initial thought as well. What this depends on is if we plan on using Keystone as the only auth method17:33
dwalleck_novaI was thinking about handling auth in a more generic case if we wanted to support different auth systems17:34
dwalleck_novaBut if we only care about Keystone (Identity) and maybe Nova and Swift Auth, I could be convinced to keep things as is17:35
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: well Nova and Swift Auth *is* the Keystone API, unless I'm mistaken?17:35
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jaypipesdwalleck_nova: although Glance's client supports pluggable auth "strategies". https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/master/glance/common/client.py17:36
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: perhaps you might be interested in using the Glance base client way of doing things.17:36
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: that said, I'm wondering if this is something we want to work on right now?17:37
dwalleck_novajaypipes: Hmm...I thought there were specific auth capabilities built into both swift and Nova17:37
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: I'm thinking this might be a task we could backburner until the compute API coverage is complete?17:37
dwalleck_novajaypipes: It can definitely be shelved while we work on completing coverage for Nova17:37
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: OK, that's good to hear :)17:37
dwalleck_novaI'm just been spinning around the thought of how I can make sure Tempest is flexible enough for anyone to use17:38
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: underrstood17:38
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: RAX public cloud is an Essex-based environment, correct?17:38
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: at least, the beta huddle is, right?17:38
jaypipesok, we can leave that for later...17:40
dwalleck_novajaypipes: Sorry, yeah, it's essex17:40
jaypipesah, cool17:40
jaypipesthx17:40
jaypipesalright, then, I say we end the meeting now so I can get to assigning bugs ;) Does anyone have anything they would like to discuss today?17:40
jaypipes#topic Open Discussion17:40
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dwalleck_novaSorry, lots going on here :)17:41
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: no worries at all!17:41
dwalleck_novaSo that's something else we have to worry about...for example, Essex uses a different URL structure for the Nova endpoint17:41
deshantmjaypipes: just curious is there Xen testing going on with tempest at this point?17:42
dwalleck_novatentant-id instead of name17:42
jaypipesdeshantm: RAX is Xen, yes17:42
dwalleck_novaI'm using Xen for all of my testing17:42
deshantmok good17:42
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: re: the different endpoint structure, yes, that's what I'm currently dealing with in my local branch to get Tempest workign against Diablo17:43
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: but a few simple changes to make the Tempest config a bit more flexible should do the trick17:43
dwalleck_novajaypipes: really? I hadn't updated the code to use the Essex version...maybe there was more than one change?17:43
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: no... I mean a few simple changes that are in my local branch and not yet pushed to review ;)17:44
dwalleck_novaAhh :)17:44
jaypipes:)17:44
dwalleck_novagotcha!17:44
jaypipesany other discussion points before we wrap up?17:44
jaypipes517:45
dwalleck_novaAnd I do realize that there are some low priority issues I opened. I just wanted to start17:45
jaypipes417:45
dwalleck_novame!17:45
jaypipesgo for it :)17:45
dwalleck_novabringing up concepts I'd like to add soon17:45
dwalleck_novaOkay, now done :)17:45
jaypipesdwalleck_nova: yep, absolutely. see my note about being able to run against multiple envs using the TEMPEST_CONFIG environ variable...17:45
jaypipesOK, then, thank you guys! I'll write up an email to the ML shortly with a quick status update on Tempest17:45
jaypipesThanks!17:45
jaypipes#endmeeting17:46
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donaldngo_hpbye guys17:46
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nati2bye!17:49
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