Thursday, 2019-09-26

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gouthamr#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 26 15:00:29 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gouthamr. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
tbarronhi15:00
gouthamrHey folks!15:00
dviroelo/15:00
carlosshi :)15:01
* gouthamr oh ho, a coup?15:01
lseki\o15:01
gansohello15:01
gouthamrcourtesy ping: gouthamr xyang toabctl bswartz ganso erlon tpsilva vkmc amito jgrosso dviroel lseki carloss15:01
gouthamrgot to update that list ^15:01
jgrossohello15:01
gouthamrhello hello, looks like we have quorum, let's get started15:02
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gouthamrhere's the meeting agenda:15:03
gouthamr#LINK https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:03
bswartz.o/15:03
gouthamr#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings#Next_meeting15:03
gouthamrfor our meetbot to register that ^15:03
gouthamr#chair tbarron bswartz15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: bswartz gouthamr tbarron15:03
gouthamrjust in case :) ^15:04
gouthamr#topic Announcements15:04
*** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: manila)"15:04
gouthamrit's time to release RC1!15:04
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684068/15:04
* tbarron claps15:04
gouthamr^ has been proposed, but, we'll have some discussion here before we endorse it, or make changes to it15:05
gouthamrfor those looking for it, we're going to move on from train15:06
gouthamr#link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html Train Release Schedule15:06
gouthamr^ per that schedule, the final RCs are due week of Oct 07 - Oct 1115:06
gouthamraround here though, we have seldom had a reason to spin up multiple release candidates - which, may be a good thing :)15:07
gouthamrbut, after today, please be aware that the development milestones will shift, and "master" in all manila projects will target Ussuri15:08
gouthamrThere's a schedule proposed by smcginnis for Ussuri15:09
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679822/15:09
gouthamrplease take a look now, or when i propose the manila specific deadlines there15:09
gouthamrwe've already released python-manilaclient, manila-ui and manila-tempest-plugin at least once for Train15:10
gouthamrif there are any critical changes in these, we can make them and request another release15:10
gouthamrplease ping tbarron or me on #openstack-manila and we can help you land these fixes and releases15:11
gouthamrapart from that15:11
* bswartz is going to miss the "train" puns15:11
gouthamryes, now we can all row...row.. row the boat for 6 months :)15:12
jgrosso:)15:12
bswartz>_<15:12
jgrossochoo choo15:12
gouthamrForum Submissions!15:12
gouthamr#link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-shanghai-forum-brainstorming15:12
gouthamrwe have now passed the deadline for forum submissions15:12
tbarronI submitted those15:12
tbarronbefore the deadline15:12
gouthamrbut, tbarron has submitted a couple of them for manila, and we should see a draft schedule, next week (?)15:13
gouthamrthank you tbarron15:13
tbarronnp15:13
gouthamrthat's all I had in terms of announcements, anyone else wants to share?15:14
gouthamr#topic RC1 reviews15:14
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gouthamr#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-train-review-focus Review focus etherpad15:15
gouthamr^ we continue to use that review etherpad to track any bugs that might need to be in RC115:15
gouthamrwe didn't call attention to this last week, but, if you're opening a bug at this stage that you think affects the release, please use the appropriate launchpad tag on the bug15:16
gouthamr<release>-rc1-potential15:16
tbarronare any of those release blockers?15:16
gouthamrthat's an apt question tbarron15:16
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gouthamri've arranged these on the pad by the order of their importance15:17
gouthamri think that15:17
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684132/15:17
gouthamris appropriate to get into rc1 because it affects the API, and we can be good citizens and fix it now rather than via a backport15:18
tbarronno bug, no priority, but getting it in before rc-1 would be cool15:18
gouthamryep, there's no bug because we merged this stuff just around FF15:18
tbarronafter that there might be an argument for releasing and backporting15:18
gouthamrdviroel: is there any relationship between ^ and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684728/15:19
gouthamrdviroel: i.e., we need the manila side change (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684132/), but can we live without the tempest side change? (https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684728/)15:20
gouthamrdviroel: reason i ask is because i'd like to request a tempest plugin release after a couple of more bug fixes15:20
dviroelgouthamr: some 3rd party drivers still may fail in this test15:20
gouthamrdviroel: ack, the Dell/EMC ones in particular15:21
dviroelgouthamr: but we can merge it later15:21
dviroelgouthamr: yes15:21
gouthamrwe've a chicken and egg situation there15:21
gouthamrthe reason they're really failing is because they run NFS+CIFS, and they cannot do CIFS testing without security services15:22
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/169985615:22
openstackLaunchpad bug 1699856 in Manila "Tempest tests missing adding Security service to share-network" [Medium,Triaged] - Assigned to Douglas Viroel (dviroel)15:22
gouthamrso they pre-create a share network, and that causes issues with the tests we added for share network subnets15:22
dviroelthis test in particular needs to delete the subnet, but the share-server may be in use by another shares15:23
gouthamrso dviroel proposes https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684728/ to skip those tests when someone is running with a pre-created share network15:23
gouthamragree, that's one major limitation of this "pre-created share network" workaround we have in our tempest plugin15:24
gouthamri support skipping these tests for that configuration, and, after LP 1699856 is fixed, urging Dell/EMC CI maintainers to stop using a pre-created share network15:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1699856 in Manila "Tempest tests missing adding Security service to share-network" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1699856 - Assigned to Douglas Viroel (dviroel)15:25
* gouthamr ping-storms dviroel 15:25
gouthamrdoes this plan make sense?15:26
dviroelyes15:26
gouthamrbswartz tbarron ganso xyang: can one of you review https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684132/ ?15:26
gouthamrwe'll move on to the next one in the interest of time15:27
gouthamr"Fix pagination does not speed up queries bug"15:27
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/650986/15:27
gouthamr#link https://launchpad.net/bugs/179546315:27
openstackLaunchpad bug 1795463 in Manila "pagination does not speed up list queries" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Carlos Eduardo (silvacarlose)15:27
gouthamrwe've been carrying this one forward for a release now, and the fix is ready - although, since it affects past releases15:28
gouthamrit is not a release blocker15:28
bswartzgouthamr: ack15:28
gouthamrbut, if we are able to get this small-ish patch reviewed, you'll save carloss one backport :)15:28
carlossgouthamr:  sure haha15:29
* gouthamr +2s it right now15:29
dviroel\o/15:29
* carloss \o/15:29
gouthamrty bswartz15:30
bswartznp15:30
gouthamrmoving on..15:30
tbarronyeah I've been following this one15:30
gouthamrack tbarron, ptal15:30
gouthamrnext one: Fix [Unity] verification and convert mgmt ipv615:31
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/184513515:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1845135 in Manila "Failed to enable ipv6 mgmt IP for Unity manila driver (queens)" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to DingDong (dingdino)15:31
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684195/15:31
gouthamragain, not a release blocker - but it got proposed a couple of days ago, and seems like a small+important change for that backend15:32
tbarronbut it's fine15:32
tbarronhe's just bracketing the ipv6 address15:32
gouthamras the bug suggests, been around since Queens - so no sweat if we have to get this backported after RC15:32
gouthamrtbarron: +115:32
gouthamr#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/184459615:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1844596 in Manila "Can not delete share server cause of soft-deleted" [Low,In progress] - Assigned to Eric Xie (eric-xie)15:33
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/68376715:33
gouthamrlazy-deletion of share servers is a nova configuration feature that we don't currently support in manila15:34
gouthamrsupporting it would mean not failing on delete if we detect that the server has transitioned to a "SOFT_DELETED" state15:35
tbarronthis looks reasonable, do we know it works?15:35
gouthamrgood point, i didn't reproduce the issue, but i read the nova docs and the approach seemed sane15:35
gouthamrtbarron: think we can defer to test?15:35
tbarrongouthamr: not necessarily15:36
tbarronit looks right and if it's not quite right it shouldn't make things worse than they are now, right?15:36
tbarronjust thinking this through15:36
tbarroncode inspection and unit test say it's right ...15:37
gouthamrwe do have share-server-force-delete since Stein, no?15:37
gouthamrganso?15:38
tbarronstakeholders on this one are generic driver users15:38
tbarronmebbe windows15:38
gansogouthamr: IIRC yes15:38
gansogouthamr: it just deletes the db record15:38
gouthamrganso: and that's all we'd need to workaround this bug - although, it's an undesirable situation15:39
gansosounds like a simple fix, just a state check, and if it is "SOFT_DELETED" then just call share-server-force-delete ?15:40
gouthamrganso: not necessary after this bugfix, we'll just forget about the server and let nova cleanup15:40
tbarronI think as a practical matter we should merge this -- it seems like the right fis --15:41
gouthamrganso: right now we're hard failing if we continue to find the server after we have initiated the delete (with retries)15:41
tbarronfix15:41
gouthamrtbarron: +1 agree15:41
tbarronunless there is a stakeholder who wants to test it first15:41
tbarronso - anyone want to test it first?15:41
* tbarron thinks there are many things that *can* be done and finite resources15:42
gouthamr+1, tbarron ganso: can either of you take a look/code review this change then?15:43
tbarrondone15:43
gouthamrty tbarron15:43
gouthamrlast one!15:44
gouthamr#link  https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/163473415:44
openstackLaunchpad bug 1634734 in Manila "create replica failed if share_backend_name is specified in share type" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Goutham Pacha Ravi (gouthamr)15:44
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/391353/15:44
gouthamr"Remove backend spec from share type while creating replica"15:44
gouthamrmeh... okay, i rebased this old bugfix, and slapped it on this etherpad15:44
gouthamrit's not got enough eyes, and is worthy of a backport anyway15:45
gouthamrwe can look at this one later15:45
gouthamrdviroel carloss: can you please take a look, we'll fix this in Ussuri and get it backported15:46
dviroelgouthamr: sure15:46
carlossok15:46
gouthamralright alright alright15:46
gouthamrso with the other three changes merged, we should have an update for15:47
gouthamr#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/684068/15:47
gouthamri'll do that in a few hours as we shepherd these patches through CI15:47
gouthamranyone else has anything else on this topic?15:48
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gouthamr#topic Ussuri OpenStack Wide goals15:48
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jgrosso+1 goutham for taking all the bugs off my list :)15:48
gouthamr#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-August/008277.html15:48
gouthamr#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/PVG-u-series-goals15:48
gouthamrjgrosso: i did that? :)15:48
jgrossogouthamr alot ot them :)15:49
gouthamrhaha nice, regarding the # topic, please take, if you're interested in proposing or participating in the community wide goals for Ussuri15:49
bswartzDo we know the community wide goals yet?15:49
gouthamrwe don't bswartz15:49
gouthamri think we'll have clarity closer to PTG15:50
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gouthamri really like the second goal, it's going to be a hard one for us - converting all our legacy jobs to native-zuulv3 format15:51
gouthamrwe started that effort in Train15:51
gouthamrmotivated by a few issues with devstack-gate that caused us pain15:51
gouthamrhopefully we'll be able to get all of them converted early in the next cycle, if this goal gets accepted15:52
gouthamrif there's anything else one of you would like to see happen, please volunteer - it's a really cool opportunity to make an impact15:53
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gouthamrgrrr15:53
gouthamrsorry, disconnect15:53
tbarronsomewhat related:15:53
tbarron#link https://review.opendev.org/#/c/680985/15:53
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tbarrontell your employers that it's an investment opportunity15:54
gouthamrawesome tbarron!15:54
jgrosso:)15:54
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gouthamranything else with this topic?15:54
gouthamr#topic Changing the meeting time15:54
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gouthamr#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org Current Meetings schedule for channel availability15:55
gouthamrokay, i was looking at ^ yesterday to draft a few timeslots15:55
gouthamrseeing as we have agreement to discuss $topic as a possibility15:55
gouthamrganso: will you be willing to work with me to get a few candidate times - we can start a poll15:56
gansogouthamr: sure15:56
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gouthamrawesome15:57
gouthamri'll ping you15:57
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gouthamrseeing as we only have three minutes left, i'll disappoint jgrosso :(15:57
jgrossohaha15:57
jgrossoI can table til next week!15:57
jgrossojust more clean-up stuff15:57
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gouthamrjgrosso: awesome, ty jgrosso - thank you for your effort in farming the bugs!15:58
gouthamr#topic Open Discussion15:58
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gouthamrBibi is back, i think15:59
gouthamrokay, not appropriate15:59
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gouthamrany manila related discussions ya'll have? :)15:59
lsekiwho's bibi?15:59
gouthamrlseki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu16:00
gouthamrwith that, i think we're out of time16:00
gouthamrthank you everyone16:00
lsekilol16:00
dviroelthanks16:00
gouthamr#endmeeting16:00
tbarronThanks, gouthamr!!!!16:00
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lsekithanks16:00
carlossthanks16:00
openstackMeeting ended Thu Sep 26 16:00:32 2019 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:00
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-09-26-15.00.html16:00
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-09-26-15.00.txt16:00
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/manila/2019/manila.2019-09-26-15.00.log.html16:00
gouthamrsee you guys in #openstack-manila16:00
priteau#startmeeting blazar16:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Sep 26 16:01:12 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'16:01
priteau#topic Roll call16:02
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priteauHi diablo_rojo__16:02
priteauOops sorry16:02
priteauHi diurnalist16:02
diurnalisto/16:03
diablo_rojo__priteau, lol no worries16:03
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priteauAgenda for today:16:03
priteau* Train release16:03
priteau* PTG16:03
priteau* AOB16:03
priteau#topic Train release16:03
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priteauWe're tagging rc1 this week16:04
priteaudiurnalist: Do you think you would be able to rebase your patches on top and test it by the release date?16:04
diurnalistyes, that should be possible. remind me of the release date?16:05
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priteauWell, final RC is Oct 07 - Oct 1116:06
priteau#link https://releases.openstack.org/train/schedule.html16:06
diurnalistthanks, i will put it on my calendar. that should be enough time though, we'll just have to test a deployment next week. are you mostly concerned with regressions?16:07
priteauYes, any regression as we've had some major changes such as microversions16:08
priteauIt could impact anything in the API16:08
diurnalistsure thing.16:08
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priteauUnfortunately we couldn't get some contributions from jake, let's try to get them merged as soon as possible in Ussuri16:09
priteauNetwork reservation in particular16:10
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diurnalistyep, that will be important. i'd also be interested in formalizing the usage-enforcement mechanisms to an external service16:10
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diurnalistas we seem to keep finding rules or features to experiment with around this, and adding in blazar is a bit awkward16:11
priteauIndeed, that would be useful.16:11
diurnalistperhaps a topic for the PTG?16:11
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priteauYes, let's cover it as part of PTG discussions16:12
priteauWhich brings me to the next topic16:12
priteau#topic PTG16:12
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priteauSo I understand Jake will be in Shanghai?16:13
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diurnalistYep! he's getting that all sorted out now16:13
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priteauGreat. I think it makes sense to allocate time for discussions then16:17
priteauI will get in touch with the foundation to make sure we have some space16:17
priteauI won't be in Shanghai but will have a meeting with the rest of the team the week before16:18
diurnalistsounds great. - who would be participating then? are other core members going to be in shanghai?16:18
priteautetsuro, bertys and masahito will be there16:18
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diurnalistgreat16:19
priteauBasically all core reviewers, except me16:19
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priteauI'll also create an etherpad for discussions, I will share it with you16:20
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priteau(and Jake)16:20
priteauAnything else to discuss about the PTG?16:21
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diurnalisti don't think so16:22
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priteau#topic AOB16:22
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priteauAny other update? How is Blazar working for you?16:23
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diurnalistwhat does AOB mean? all other business?16:23
diurnalisthaha16:23
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diurnalistblazar is working well, BUT there is still this bug that haunts me on a weekly basis. something can happen where leases get stuck in pending and you have to restart blazar-manager to get them to start.16:24
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diurnalistmy suspicion is that some SQL client gets an error and then caches some sort of bad connection and can't get out of it16:24
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priteaudiurnalist: Any Other Business16:24
diurnalistbut i haven't successfully tracked it down yet16:24
diurnalisti should really file a bug for this...16:24
priteauIt definitely seems related to SQL16:24
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priteauHave you tried enabling more sqlalchemy debug logs?16:25
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priteauThey might get very verbose until you hit the error though...16:25
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diurnalisti have not. fortunately, I think the bug is pretty easy to trigger. you just have to restart the MySQL database or otherwise interrupt its connection to blazar16:25
diurnalisthow can i explicitly enable sqlalchemy debug?16:25
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priteauIn the [DEFAULT]/default_log_levels, you may have sqlalchemy=WARN, you can increase the verbosity there16:27
diurnalistgreat, will try that. i will also file a bug for this16:28
priteauThank you16:28
priteauI have to leave shortly, let's end here for today16:28
priteauThanks for joining16:28
diurnalistcheers16:29
diurnalistbug here btw https://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/184553116:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1845531 in Blazar "Leases stuck in PENDING indefinitely" [Undecided,New]16:29
priteauThank you16:29
priteau#endmeeting16:29
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