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| efried | #startmeeting nova-scheduler | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 22 14:00:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is efried. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_scheduler' | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
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| cdent | o/ | 14:01 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:02 |
| tetsuro | o/ | 14:02 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:02 |
| efried | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/NovaScheduler#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:02 |
| mriedem | o | 14:02 |
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| efried | Not a lot going today. If you have something to discuss, get ready to draw. | 14:03 |
| efried | #topic last meeting | 14:03 |
| efried | #link last minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-15-14.00.html | 14:03 |
| efried | Any old business? | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "last meeting (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:03 | |
| * cdent stands ready | 14:03 | |
| efried | #topic specs and review | 14:04 |
| efried | #link latest pupdate: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-October/135877.html | 14:04 |
| efried | Spec review tomorrow. ^ has a nice list of placement-related specs. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs and review (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:04 | |
| efried | I will be spending today working on a new "placement config yaml file" spec. | 14:04 |
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| cdent | resource provider config yaml spec, yes? | 14:05 |
| efried | Yes, that makes more sense. It will be a synthesis of | 14:05 |
| efried | #link Jay's Rocky provider-config-file proposal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/550244/2/specs/rocky/approved/provider-config-file.rst | 14:05 |
| efried | and the file format bits of | 14:05 |
| efried | #link Konstantinos's device-placement-passthrough spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591037/8/specs/stein/approved/device-placement-model.rst | 14:05 |
| efried | (which was based on | 14:05 |
| efried | #link Eric's device-passthrough spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/579359/10/doc/source/specs/rocky/device-passthrough.rst | 14:05 |
| efried | ) | 14:05 |
| * cdent blinks | 14:06 | |
| cdent | it will be nice for there to be options to be explicit | 14:06 |
| efried | what do you mean? | 14:06 |
| cdent | a provider config file allows people to make statements about the config of their providers, explicitly, rather than the virt driver producing a bunch of things that _might_ be different from desired | 14:07 |
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| cdent | (just make a general assertion that ambiguity is no fun) | 14:08 |
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| efried | oh, don't worry, there will still be plenty of non-fun ambiguity. I imagine most of the time people will compose their provider.yaml files after first seeing what nova/virt does to their providers by default. | 14:09 |
| cdent | hawt | 14:09 |
| efried | but the hope is that said provider.yaml file will allow you to tweak most of the things you would want to tweak, and their presence in that file will do what you would expect. | 14:09 |
| efried | Anything else about specs? | 14:10 |
| cdent | not from me | 14:10 |
| efried | #link nrp use in nova: Series still starting at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/606050/ (no change since last week) | 14:10 |
| efried | Matt asked for a rebase on some cleanup patches that'll make the series more sane and less confusing. | 14:10 |
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| efried | gibi_off: is off today and tomorrow, plans to get to it on Wed. | 14:11 |
| efried | Any other reviews to bring up? | 14:11 |
| cdent | nawp | 14:11 |
| mriedem | that rebase, | 14:12 |
| mriedem | will depend on dropping the caching scheduler | 14:12 |
| cdent | oh, actually... | 14:12 |
| mriedem | i don't know how long that needs to sit | 14:12 |
| mriedem | the one user i know of has +1ed the removal | 14:12 |
| mriedem | and it's in the ML | 14:12 |
| efried | It went like a whole weekend, didn't it? | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | i'd say once gibi gets his series rebased then it's ok to drop if no one has spoken up by then | 14:13 |
| efried | wfm | 14:13 |
| cdent | that. will. be. awesome. | 14:13 |
| efried | cdent: did you have reviews to bring up? (other than Extraction which will be a separate topic) | 14:14 |
| cdent | What I was gonna say is that the stack of grenade, devstack, tempest, integration test, etc, jobs is hung up on needing some database stuff. Right now it uses a stub table creator: | 14:14 |
| cdent | #link stub table creator https://review.openstack.org/#/c/600161/ | 14:14 |
| efried | #topic Extraction | 14:14 |
| efried | (^ /me just decided this gets its own topic) | 14:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Extraction (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:14 | |
| cdent | which _might_ be useful to go ahead and merge as a temporary thing so we can move those integration tests forward | 14:14 |
| mriedem | why aren't we just waiting for alembic stuff? | 14:15 |
| cdent | because it's not clear how long that is going to take | 14:15 |
| edleafe | I've got the alembic stuf sort of working, but the sqla code doesn't see the tables. | 14:15 |
| cdent | but that's certainly an option | 14:15 |
| edleafe | My lack of sqla understanding is the bottleneck | 14:15 |
| cdent | if you want to push up extant code I can look at it in your off hours? | 14:16 |
| edleafe | sure, I could do that. I was going to hack a bit more once this meeting is over and I get more caffeine | 14:16 |
| cdent | drop a messsage somewhere with your state when you let go of it tonight, and I can play with it tomorrow morning | 14:17 |
| edleafe | riger that | 14:17 |
| edleafe | roger, even | 14:17 |
| efried | Anything else related to extraction? | 14:18 |
| cdent | the other extraction thing I wanted to mention is something along the lines of "what's up with docs". We haven't really got a solid plan there, yet. Ideas? Thoughts? | 14:18 |
| mriedem | if the docs are going to be published from the placement repo, | 14:18 |
| mriedem | then nova's docs just need redirect links | 14:18 |
| efried | is that what you meant, cdent? Publishing the docs? Or were you talking about conten? | 14:19 |
| efried | t | 14:19 |
| cdent | all of it | 14:19 |
| cdent | when we publish, we need redirect links | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | sure, so it's just a two-step, | 14:20 |
| cdent | but just publishing is not enough because the content is currently embedded in the context of nova without a notion of placement being first class | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | get the docs publishing with the desired content, | 14:20 |
| mriedem | and then push a nova patch to change the redirects and drop the nova placement docs i guess | 14:20 |
| cdent | and we don't currently have anyone thinking about that content as far as I know | 14:20 |
| cdent | so mostly I'm saying "hey, we need to think about that content" | 14:21 |
| efried | tetsuro: any chance you've got time for ^ ? | 14:21 |
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| cdent | within that is also: the api-ref is published and managed separately so we could go ahead and switch that whenever we like, as the api is currently frozen | 14:21 |
| edleafe | I think the focus on meeting the extraction goals has lessened the interest in working on docs | 14:21 |
| tetsuro | efried: You mean I clean up the content of the placement docs? | 14:22 |
| cdent | indeed, but we can't say we are extracted without being able to publish docs, presumably? | 14:22 |
| efried | tetsuro: Yes, de-nova-ify and get them ready to publish. | 14:22 |
| edleafe | I wouldn't think so, but writing down what has to be done has definitely focused efforts on those things | 14:22 |
| efried | tetsuro: Last doc you did, you made it look easy :) The reward for good work is... | 14:23 |
| tetsuro | efried: Okay, I have time to look into that | 14:24 |
| efried | tetsuro: Thanks! | 14:24 |
| efried | I don't know what is needed to trigger publishing, but we can figure that out as the content is being made ready. | 14:25 |
| cdent | edleafe: I agree, I mentioned in penultimate pupdate that we might want to restart the placement extraction etherpad to start from a clean slate and understanding of the now | 14:25 |
| cdent | but nobody said anything | 14:25 |
| efried | implicit agreement ^ | 14:25 |
| mriedem | didn't read it yet | 14:25 |
| efried | keep the old one for posterity | 14:25 |
| edleafe | Guilty. I remember reading that and thinking "Hey, we should definitely do that" | 14:25 |
| cdent | efried: have you been listening to me for the last few years? I don't do implicit, sirrah | 14:26 |
| efried | cdent: I agree with the notion of starting a new extraction etherpad, while keeping the old for posterity. +1. Make it so. Do it, and let the English see you do it. | 14:26 |
| efried | ^ explicit. | 14:27 |
| cdent | Oh, you mean "implicit agreement" which translate as "yeah, as long as the smeller is the feller, than it's cool"? | 14:27 |
| * cdent takes notes in his instruction manual | 14:27 | |
| cdent | If I follow that policy all the time I will end up doing everything and I ain't gonna do that | 14:28 |
| cdent | but in this case I'll take that action | 14:28 |
| cdent | #action cdent to make a new extraction etherpad | 14:29 |
| efried | oh, if we're using that tag... | 14:29 |
| efried | #action tetsuro to de-nova-ify placement docs and make ready for publishing | 14:29 |
| efried | okay, we done with extraction? | 14:30 |
| efried | (silence <= implicit agreement) | 14:31 |
| efried | #topic bugs | 14:31 |
| efried | #link Placement bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=placement | 14:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:31 | |
| efried | Any bugs worthy of discussion? | 14:32 |
| cdent | rgerganov has started backporting a fix for update running more than once in the resource tracker | 14:32 |
| cdent | the race condition it fixes is present back to queens (where it has presented a problem for the vmware product) | 14:32 |
| efried | neat | 14:33 |
| cdent | #link update less in rt https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1729621 | 14:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1729621 in OpenStack Compute (nova) pike "Inconsistent value for vcpu_used" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Radoslav Gerganov (rgerganov) | 14:33 |
| cdent | it seems the race is more of a big deal if you have many hundreds of vms on the same nova compute | 14:33 |
| efried | that would seem unsurprising | 14:34 |
| cdent | quite | 14:35 |
| efried | other buggage? | 14:36 |
| mriedem | my only concern about those backports | 14:36 |
| mriedem | is the related 0.0 allocation fix that came later | 14:36 |
| mriedem | which is in rocky but not queens or pike | 14:37 |
| mriedem | well, that's not my only concern, but my biggest one | 14:37 |
| mriedem | this https://github.com/openstack/nova/commit/2588af87c862cfd02d860f6b860381e907b279ff#diff-afb9c0c0ca5276c7eacd987bbf51d8e6 | 14:37 |
| cdent | presumably this will come out in the review? | 14:38 |
| mriedem | i'll leave something yes | 14:39 |
| efried | #topic opens | 14:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "opens (Meeting topic: nova-scheduler)" | 14:40 | |
| efried | Anyone? Bueller? | 14:40 |
| cdent | spec sprint tomorrow, yes? | 14:41 |
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| efried | yup | 14:41 |
| efried | mentioned at :04:09 | 14:42 |
| efried | Anything else before we close? | 14:43 |
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| efried | Thanks y'all | 14:43 |
| efried | #endmeeting | 14:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Documentation (Meeting topic: trove)" | 14:43 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 22 14:43:47 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-22-14.00.html | 14:43 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-22-14.00.txt | 14:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_scheduler/2018/nova_scheduler.2018-10-22-14.00.log.html | 14:43 |
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| cdent | thanks efried | 14:44 |
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