Tuesday, 2018-08-28

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priteau#startmeeting blazar09:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 28 09:02:24 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is priteau. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:02
priteau#topic RollCall09:02
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masahitoo/09:03
tetsuroo/09:03
priteauHello masahito and tetsuro09:03
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priteauToday's agenda:09:04
priteau1. Rocky release09:04
priteau2. PTG meeting agenda09:04
priteau3. Team photo at PTG09:04
priteau4. Team dinner at PTG09:04
priteau5. python3-first goal09:04
priteau6. Berlin Summit09:04
priteau7. AOB09:04
priteauAnything else?09:04
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priteauLet's start then09:06
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priteau#topic Rocky release09:06
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priteauThe Rocky coordinated release will happen on 30 August 2018, according to https://releases.openstack.org/rocky/schedule.html09:06
priteauThat's on Thursday this week.09:06
priteauAny pending actions to complete release, like writing new release notes?09:07
tetsuronot from me09:08
masahitonot from my side09:08
priteaumasahito: Will you handle tagging the Rocky final release?09:09
masahitoIIRC, sean adds the Rocky final release tag for all projects.09:10
masahitoAnd wants PTL +1 for his patch.09:10
priteauI see.09:10
priteauWill you add the +1 then?09:10
priteauOr should I do it?09:10
masahitoah, I'm not sure who should do. In the Queens release, he added me to the reviewer.09:11
priteauWe'll see who he adds. I will keep an eye on open reviews mentioning blazar.09:12
priteauIs it in the openstack/releases repo?09:12
masahitoyes.09:12
masahitoI try to check the repo, too.09:12
priteauDo you know what's happening with releasing the client with bugfix: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590760/09:13
masahitoI think the stable/rocky branch for the client was already freezed at the client release. So we should release 2.0.1 on master branch.09:15
priteauIs that the correc\t process?09:16
priteauReading https://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/release-management.html09:18
masahitotagging on a master branch?09:18
priteauPotential new release critical issues have first to get fixed on the master branch. Once merged in master, they can be backported to the release branch. The PROJECTNAME-stable-maint team is tasked with approving such backports. Once all the desired backports (and translations updates) are merged, a new release candidate can be produced.09:18
priteauWe've backported the patch to the rocky branch already09:19
masahitoThe release model is for cycle with development milestones¶09:19
priteauMaybe we should ask in #openstack-release09:19
masahitoblazarclient takes cycle with intermediary release model09:20
priteau"If a critical issue is found in the “final release”, backports can be pushed to the stable branch and a new release be requested there."09:21
priteauThat's from the "intermediary releases" section09:21
priteauLooks like it should be tagged in the stable branch, not master.09:21
masahitoyeah. looks like same approach with cycle with milestone09:21
masahitoAs you said, we should ask it in #openstack-release.09:22
priteauLooks like Sean is US-based, so he may be online only later today.09:23
priteauI can ask him if you're offline by then.09:23
masahitogot it. thanks.09:23
priteauIt would be good to have 2.0.1 released by Thursday09:24
priteauAnything else about Rocky?09:24
priteauIf not let's move to the next agenda item09:25
masahitonothing from me09:25
priteau#topic PTG meeting agenda09:25
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priteauWe will have the full team at the PTG, that's great!09:25
masahitoyeah, it's nice!09:26
priteauWe have the start of an agenda on Etherpad09:26
priteau#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/blazar-ptg-stein09:26
priteauPlease add topics that you would like to discuss09:27
priteauI noticed there is a comment from Chris Dent on the page09:27
priteau"If we should set up a time to have a placement/blazar meetup during the PTG, please ask me, Eric, Jay or Ed, we should be able to orchestrate something"09:28
priteauI will get in touch with them to set up a discussion slot09:28
priteauDo you have preferences on the time? I think we could find one hour on Tuesday for example09:29
masahitoI'm fine for Tuesday.09:29
tetsuroMe, too09:29
priteautetsuro: you've been leading the placement integration work, do you have requests / feedback for them?09:29
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tetsuroWell for instance researvation, everything is fine so far.09:30
priteauActually, bertys is online present on Tuesday, so maybe we should try to meet them another day09:30
priteauI will send email to ask for options09:31
tetsuroMonday also works for me.09:31
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masahitoI'll be there by Thursday so if Tuesday doesn't work another day is also fine to me.09:32
priteauOK sounds good09:32
tetsuroFor host reservation, we'd like to have one more feature in placement, kind of exclusive traits, and that is now being proposed in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/593475/. It is nice to discuss this spec and blazar's requirements with placement team at the time.09:33
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masahitoIMO, we should start the design to remove blazar-nova filter by using PlacementAPI09:33
priteauLet's try to add all items this week to finalize agenda next Tuesday09:33
masahitoOK09:33
priteauAlso, remember to register for the PTG and book rooms if you haven't already09:34
priteauBut I suppose you have already done that a while ago :-)09:34
tetsuroThanks for reminding anyway :)09:34
priteauAnything else about the agenda?09:35
masahitoThanks for heading up.09:35
priteau#topic Team photo at PTG09:35
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priteauThere is a team photo organized at the PTG like in Dublin09:36
priteauI registered us to have our team photo taken on Tuesday, September 11 at 2 PM (just after lunch)09:36
priteauPlease let me know if this time doesn't work for you, there are still other slots available.09:36
masahitoIt works for me09:36
tetsurowfm09:37
priteauI will email bertys to check with him, but he should be there.09:37
priteau#topic Team dinner at PTG09:38
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priteauThere is an Official PTG Happy Hour on Tuesday, September 11, 5:00-7:00pm09:38
priteauShould we organise a team dinner right after, say 7:30 pm?09:38
masahitosound reasonable.09:39
priteauI believe all three of us are available.09:39
priteauPlus bertys should be there, again I will check with him09:39
tetsuroSounds good09:40
priteauPlease suggest options for the restaurant, and we can decide next week.09:40
priteau#topic python3-first goal09:41
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masahitoDenver City Guide: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Stein/CityGuide09:41
priteauThanks masahito09:41
priteauMany patches have been submitted to Blazar for the python3-first goal09:42
priteauWe should review them soon09:42
priteauSee updates from Doug Hellmann on the openstack-dev list as well09:43
priteauI am just back from holiday today so I haven't looked at them yet09:44
masahitoMost of them are related to juul job setting. So it's easy to review.09:44
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priteauLet's review this week and discuss next week if there are any issues09:45
priteau#topic Berlin Summit09:46
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priteauThe schedule for the Berlin Summit is out. It looks like none of the Blazar talks were accepted unfortunately.09:46
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priteauAt least we will have a 20 minutes project update slot, though it is not yet on the schedule.09:47
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priteauI haven't looked at the schedule in details, it would be good to share pointers to interesting sessions09:48
priteauAre you both still going to attend?09:48
masahitoI received a conformation mail for the project update. Should I replay it?09:48
masahitoyes.09:48
priteauOh, could you forward it to me please?09:48
masahitoOK09:49
priteauI guess they got confused with the PTL change09:49
masahitomaybe09:49
priteauIt's quite likely that I will attend the summit, we can have a mini-meeting there too09:50
tetsuroYes, I'm coming to the summit, FYI09:50
masahitoGood to hear!09:50
priteauAnd I think Bertrand should be able to join too.09:51
priteauAnything else to say about the summit?09:52
priteauIf not let's move to AOB09:52
priteau#topic AOB09:52
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priteauAnyone has updates to share?09:53
masahitoI have one about releasenote page. I forgot putting the item on the Rocky release topic.09:53
masahitoI pushed a releasenote page patch instead of release bot's proposal. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590671/09:54
masahitoBot proposal: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/590287/09:54
priteautetsuro proposes that we update the bot proposal instead09:55
masahitoMy patch includes ignore-note section to avoid unnecessary release notes show up in Rocky releasenote.09:55
priteautetsuro: I can abandon the bot's proposal instead.09:56
tetsuroCool, then I can remove my -1.09:56
priteauProbably only core reviewers can abandon patches09:57
priteauThanks for submitting masahito, I will review09:58
priteauA few updates from me09:59
priteauI noticed that the User Survey didn’t include Blazar in the list of projects that operators were running or were interested into. I contacted the Foundation to add Blazar to the next one.09:59
masahitopriteau: thanks09:59
priteauThey haven't replied yet though.09:59
priteauI noticed a mailing list thread about placement, it mentions Blazar so worth reading: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-August/133445.html10:00
priteauI haven't read it fully yet10:00
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priteauAnd finally, I am working on upgrading Chameleon's Blazar version to Rocky, so we will get some early feedback about how well it works10:01
priteauThat's all from me10:01
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masahitoI didn't noticed the thread. thanks. I'll check it.10:01
priteauAnything from you tetsuro?10:01
priteauIf not it's time to finish the meeting10:01
tetsuronothing10:02
masahitonothing10:02
priteauThanks everyone!10:02
priteau#endmeeting10:02
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Aug 28 10:02:22 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)10:02
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-08-28-09.02.html10:02
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-08-28-09.02.txt10:02
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/blazar/2018/blazar.2018-08-28-09.02.log.html10:02
masahitobye10:02
tetsuroThank you, all.10:02
priteauGood bye10:02
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 28 16:00:16 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting16:00
lbragstadagenda ^16:00
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lbragstado/16:01
gagehugoo/16:01
hrybackio/16:01
gagehugolbragstad I fixed the ping list16:01
lbragstadi think there might be a couple people out16:01
lbragstadgagehugo: tanks16:01
lbragstadthanks*16:01
gagehugotanks sound fun16:02
knikollao/16:02
hrybackiI suppose that depends on you frame of reference with respect to the tank gagehugo ;)16:02
lbragstad#topic release status16:03
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lbragstad#info rc2 cut16:03
lbragstadwe ended up cutting rc2 last week to make sure we had backport migrations16:03
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lbragstad(thanks wxy| for catching that)16:03
lbragstadwith that16:03
lbragstad#info Stein is open for development16:03
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wxy|o/16:04
gagehugohrybacki I was thinking more of a scorched earth clone I played in grade school lab16:04
lbragstadjust a reminder that now is a great time to work on PoCs before the PTG16:04
hrybackiI may have played the same thing come to think of it :)16:05
wxy|lbragstad: I added two new oslo.limit patches.16:05
lbragstadwxy|: oh - nice. i'll be sure to take a look16:05
wxy|lbragstad: cool16:05
lbragstad#topic Stein PTG Details16:05
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lbragstadwe're 13 days from the PTG16:05
lbragstadand i've updated the etherpad to include a schedule16:06
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-stein-ptg16:06
kmalloco/16:06
lbragstadplease give it a look and let me know if you see any issues or conflicts16:06
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lbragstadtl;dr is that we have monday for cross-project stuff, thursday and friday will be dedicated to keystone-specific topics16:06
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lbragstadtuesday and wednesday we won't have a room16:07
lbragstadbut we will likely be doing follow up discussions for federation + edge and cross-project discussions from monday16:07
lbragstadand for the most part, friday is going to be reserved to getting everything we've talked about throughout the week in trello16:08
lbragstadand merging specs16:08
lbragstadi'm really hoping we don't have much to "follow up on" when we leave denver16:08
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lbragstadany questions on the schedule so far?16:09
hrybackilooks great!16:09
lbragstadhrybacki: think we'll be good to do all the trello/roadmap work on that friday?16:10
knikollaLooks pretty good16:10
hrybackilbragstad: I believe so, yes16:11
lbragstadcool16:11
lbragstadwe do also have a few open sessions16:11
lbragstadwednesday afternoon for example16:11
lbragstadusually something always comes up, but in the event things go smoothly we can use that as hack time16:11
hrybackilbragstad: is there any thorny bugs that we could pair on during that time?16:12
lbragstadif people want to sit down in a corner and work through review or pair-programming (flask stuff or protection patches)16:12
hrybackiassuming the block doesn't get filled up with something else16:12
lbragstadright16:12
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hrybacki++ /me steps back16:12
lbragstadhrybacki: by all means, if you have suggestions for things to tackle during that time, please feel free to suggest them :)16:13
lbragstadi was thinking the flask stuff16:13
hrybackiI think we are on the same tracks16:13
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lbragstador policy protection16:13
gagehugowe could spend a whole day on microversions like last year16:13
lbragstadbut we could hammer through the doc changes we wanted to do in rocky16:13
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hrybackigagehugo: go away :P16:13
hrybackilbragstad: that's not a bad idea16:14
hrybacki'get it done'16:14
gagehugoI'd like to see a roadmap for the rest of the flask stuff (honest answer)16:14
lbragstadright - something we can iterate on quickly16:14
hrybackinever will there be a more rich library of knowledge than in that room16:14
lbragstadkmalloc: do you think it would be possible to get an idea of what's left to help you with before the PTG?16:15
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kmallocmostly review eyes.16:16
kmallocif someone else wants to take on domains, projects, users, that would be awesome.16:17
lbragstadafaik just a few APIs are left to be moved16:17
kmallocbut they are burly changes.16:17
kmalloci am blocked on groups waiting for your opinon lbragstad16:17
kmallocwhich is why the rebase/refactor hasn't happened.16:17
lbragstadack - sorry about that16:17
lbragstadi will look today16:17
lbragstadi'm just about to finish up the failures on #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594547/16:17
kmalloclbragstad: will send DM. can't talk more in public forums.16:18
lbragstadsounds good16:18
lbragstadis there anything else specific to the PTG people want to discuss?16:18
gagehugokmalloc I wouldn't mind trying one of those resources, if I get some capacity on my end16:18
lbragstadanything not on the schedule that should be?16:18
kmallocOS-FEDERATION needs review eyes, it's the next to land: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591082/16:19
kmallocand should be ready for review and passing tests.16:19
kmallocgagehugo: i warn you, domains is the easiest, and it isn't easy.16:19
gagehugo:(16:19
gagehugook16:20
kmallocgagehugo: i will happily take help.16:20
kmallocbut i want to level set that it isn't straight forward.16:20
gagehugoI will take a swing at it16:20
kmallocit's mostly hard because we are duplicating functionality.16:20
kmallocgagehugo: you'll need to move all dispatched URLs that start with /domains in one swoop.16:21
kmalloc(one patch)16:21
kmalloc /auth may not be moved by PTG.16:21
lbragstadis that one going to be the last one we move?16:21
kmallocit is very involved and will probably take ~3-5 days to unwind.16:21
kmallocyes.16:21
kmalloci expect auth to move around S2, to be honest.16:21
lbragstadmmmm16:22
kmallocunless i get a lot of time this weekend or move through /users and/or projects16:22
lbragstadok16:22
kmallocfast.16:22
kmallocauth is involved because of how the plugins interact and how things directly access auth controllers16:22
kmallocsome of the cleanup is done already, some is on hold because federation, projects, users should move first16:23
lbragstadok16:23
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kmallocand auth may *still* require webob for a bit after it is moved.16:23
kmallocjust for request/response handling16:23
kmalloci've got a translation from flask req -> webob req that makes it a bit easier.16:24
kmalloconce the APIs are moved, we will need to compress our middleware (mostly) to before_request functions16:24
lbragstadi have it down for wednesday in the event we don't have cross-project things to go through16:25
kmalloci can cover the indepth bits of how flask works for us16:25
kmallocand what we are doing to fill in gaps at the PTF16:25
kmallocPTG*16:25
kmalloci hope the flask APIs are easier to read16:25
kmalloci think long term it will be easier to maintain, but it has been a big shift.16:26
kmallocin S, i would also like to see us do the move of keystone.XXX to keystone.subsystem.XXX (for non-api code)16:26
kmallocif we can.16:26
kmallocjust so we clearly outline what is api code, what is business logic code, and what is common/shared/etc code16:27
lbragstadsounds good16:27
lbragstadi'd like to start stacking changes like https://review.openstack.org/#/c/594547/ up after the flask migrations16:28
kmalloc++16:28
kmalloci'll bug you today re: groups, get the current stack rebased and start in on users and/or projects16:28
lbragstadok16:29
lbragstadanything else PTG related?16:29
lbragstadotherwise we can move to open discussion16:29
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lbragstad#topic open discussion16:31
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lbragstadif there isn't anything specific to bring up, looks like we can get some time back16:34
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hrybacki++ thanks lbragstad !16:34
lbragstadthanks for coming, all16:34
gagehugothanks!16:34
lbragstadreminder we can office hours in 26 minutes16:34
lbragstads/can/have/16:34
lbragstad#endmeeting16:34
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hrybackikmalloc: which APIs have been fully converted to Flask?17:36
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