Wednesday, 2018-04-11

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alexchadin#startmeeting watcher08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 11 08:00:19 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is alexchadin. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'watcher'08:00
alexchadingreetings!08:00
adisky__hi08:00
licanweihi08:00
hidekazuhi08:00
alexchadinour agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#04.2F11.2F201808:01
alexchadinas some of you have already known, I plan to add blueprint regarding watcher filters08:01
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alexchadin#topic Open Discussions08:02
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alexchadinalexchadin proposes to add filtering mechanism with at least affinity/anti-affinity, HA/AZ filters.08:02
alexchadinmy manager and customers requests this mechanism to respect Nova's filters08:03
hidekazualexchadin: can we use the filter for audit scope as well?08:03
alexchadinduring live-migration08:03
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hidekazusorry ,go on.08:03
alexchadinhidekazu: along with, I suppose08:03
adisky__its great08:03
hidekazualexchadin: nice.08:03
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Yumenghi08:03
alexchadinfilters should be implemented as additional part of strategy's workflow08:04
alexchadinYumeng: hi!08:04
hidekazuYumeng: hello08:04
adisky__Yumeng: hi08:04
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Yumenghi all!08:04
Yumengpls go on08:04
Yumengsorry for late08:05
hidekazualexchadin: you mean workflow engine?08:05
alexchadinsorry for delaying08:05
alexchadinhidekazu: no, during execution of strategy08:05
hidekazualexchadin: ok08:06
alexchadinwhen we choose what instances where should we move08:06
alexchadinstrategies should be reworked to support filters and to save backward compatibility08:07
alexchadinI've come to this decision as trade-off between architectural design and business requirements08:07
alexchadinI submit spec soon (by EOW) and we will discuss it there in details08:08
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alexchadinwatcher scope and watcher filters will live together since their goals are different08:09
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hidekazuyes, i agree.08:09
alexchadinwell, any other discussions or announcements?08:10
alexchadinoh, I'm preparing API reference that we discussed on PTG08:11
alexchadinshould be ready to review soon08:11
alexchadinhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/558559/08:11
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alexchadinwell, let's move on08:13
alexchadin#topic Review Action Items08:13
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alexchadinWatcher specs08:14
alexchadinSupport Watcher HA active-active Mode needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/54970608:14
licanweialexchadin: I reply to your questions08:15
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alexchadinlicanwei: yeah, I've seen, you have wanted to update problem description section08:16
licanweialexchadin: yes08:16
alexchadin:)08:17
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alexchadinlicanwei: I'll continue spec discussions in gerrit comments :)08:17
alexchadin#action licanwei submit new PS https://review.openstack.org/54970608:18
licanweialexchadin: welcome08:18
alexchadinAdd the start and end time for CONTINUOUS audit needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/55105808:18
alexchadinwhile licanwei submits new PS for HA, I will review this one08:18
alexchadinwho would like to review it too?08:19
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hidekazualexchadin: i will08:20
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alexchadin#action alexchadin hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/55105808:21
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alexchadinEnhance Watcher applier Engine needs to answer Egor's question. #link https://review.openstack.org/55186108:21
alexchadinsuzhengwei: hi08:22
suzhengweihi08:22
suzhengweisorry for late08:22
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eraklihi all08:22
hidekazusuzhengwei: hi08:22
alexchadinwelcome Egor08:23
eraklisorry for so late comming08:23
eraklibad connection08:23
hidekazuerakli: are you Egor Panfilov?08:23
erakliyep08:23
alexchadinhidekazu: +08:23
hidekazuerakli: hi08:23
hidekazuerakli: thanks active reviewing.08:23
licanweialexchadin: I will08:24
alexchadinlicanwei: thanks08:24
eraklihidekazu: you are welcome)08:24
alexchadin#action licanwei answer question on https://review.openstack.org/55186108:25
alexchadinWatcher Planner Selector needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/55861408:25
adisky__Its a good day for watcher, all are present :)08:25
eraklialexchadin: in work08:25
alexchadinerakli: you should submit new PS08:25
alexchadinfine08:25
alexchadin#action erakli submit new PS https://review.openstack.org/55861408:25
alexchadinI suppose it's done with specs08:26
alexchadinWatcher08:26
alexchadinEnhance Watcher Applier Engine needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554765/08:26
alexchadinwho'd like to take this one?08:26
alexchadinBTW I will08:26
adisky__alexchadin: +108:27
alexchadinadisky__: thanks08:27
alexchadinYumeng suzhengwei what about you?08:27
Yumeng+108:28
alexchadinYumeng: thanks08:29
alexchadin#action adisky__ Yumeng alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/554765/08:29
alexchadinReplace cold migration to use Nova migration API needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555665/08:29
adisky__alexchadin: +108:30
alexchadinI'll take this one08:30
alexchadinadisky__: I like this bp :)08:30
Yumengalexchadin: +1 I'm interested in this one.08:30
alexchadinYumeng: great!08:30
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alexchadinerakli: what about you?08:31
eraklialexchadin: I reviewed it already and only find that there is no API version check08:32
eraklialexchadin: I can do it again08:32
alexchadinoh found out your review08:33
hidekazui want comment from other reviewer's opinion about api version check.08:33
alexchadinerakli: you know the magic about +1/-1 :)08:33
alexchadinhidekazu: I will08:33
eraklialexchadin: I will use it, I promise :)08:33
alexchadinhidekazu: I've fixed something with API version during ZuulV3 migration08:34
alexchadin#action adisky__ Yumeng erakli alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/555665/08:34
adisky__erakli: for backward compatibility we need to add api microversioning in watcher08:35
adisky__and it will be a seperate blueprint08:35
erakliadisky__: got it08:35
alexchadinis api of clients part of microversioning?08:36
alexchadinadisky__: ^08:36
alexchadinadisky__: I thought its' rather about our own API changes08:37
adisky__alexchadin: if we introduce microversioning in watcher, we can make watchera-api version dependent on nova-api version08:37
hidekazureview comment is about nova api version check.08:38
alexchadinadisky__: part of bp discussion, I suppose08:38
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alexchadinadisky__: do you want to take it?08:38
erakliadisky__: In this review I propose to check, If user have nova with API version older, than we use now. In this case it would be a good idea to notify user in-place08:38
erakliadisky__: and, IMO, it's better to introduce with this change08:39
adisky__e.g. watcher 1.1 is supporting till nova 5.1, if user using 1.1  (old)  we can use cold migration the previous way, if user using  say 1.2 and it supports nova 5.1 above it will call nova cold migration08:39
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alexchadinwe're limited by time, let's move this discussion to openstack-watcher channel08:40
adisky__erakli: ya, it can be a short term option08:40
eraklialexchadin: agreed08:40
alexchadinadd strategy host_maintenance needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/479200/08:40
alexchadinsuzhengwei: we're still waiting :)08:40
suzhengweiok08:40
erakliadisky__: +108:40
alexchadinTry to use requeue to sync CDM needs reviews as possible part of HA (alexchadin should update commit description). #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551963/08:41
alexchadinlicanwei: take a look at this one08:41
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licanweialexchadin: OK08:41
alexchadinlicanwei: decision-engine logs on controller and compute especially08:41
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alexchadinlicanwei: we can sync CDM of DEs by this commit08:42
hidekazualexchadin: is that the result of we discussed before?08:42
licanweialexchadin: I'll review08:42
alexchadinhidekazu: yeah, it brings notification broadcasting from Nova notifications08:43
alexchadin#action licanwei review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551963/08:43
hidekazualexchadin: i got it.08:43
hidekazualexchadin: did you tried in your env?08:44
alexchadinhidekazu: yes, it works08:44
alexchadinhidekazu: try in your env too08:45
hidekazualexchadin: thanks, great.08:45
alexchadinhidekazu: add you to reviewers?08:45
hidekazualexchadin: unfortunately i do not have multi DEs now.08:45
alexchadinoh no worries08:46
hidekazualexchadin: i can review code of course.08:46
alexchadin#action hidekazu review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551963/08:46
alexchadinlicanwei hidekazu thanks :)08:46
alexchadinWatcher Bug Fixes08:46
alexchadinSeveral fixes of strategies docs needs final core review #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557430/08:47
alexchadinwoah it's on the way to be merged08:47
alexchadinYumeng: thanks!08:47
Yumengalexchadin: :)08:47
alexchadinadd unittest for execute_audit in audit/continuous.py needs reviews #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559653/08:48
alexchadinerakli: our turn08:48
alexchadinerakli: if you don't mind08:49
eraklialexchadin: i'm in08:49
alexchadin#action alexchadin erakli review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559653/08:49
alexchadinUpdate auth_uri option to www_authenticate_uri needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559542/08:49
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erakliwow, there's fix already08:50
alexchadinI'll contact caoyuan to ask him about fixing08:50
eraklialexchadin: i catch it08:50
alexchadinerakli: I suggest caoyuan to fix zuul's tests first08:51
eraklialexchadin: ok08:51
alexchadinTrivial fix of user guide doc needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/55743308:52
alexchadinoups, missed08:52
alexchadinUpdate "returns" to "return" who'd like to update this commit? #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549598/08:52
alexchadinas adisky__ have said we need to replace returns with return across all project08:53
adisky__alexchadin: I will update it08:53
alexchadinadisky__: thanks a lot!08:53
alexchadin#action adisky__ submit new PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/549598/08:53
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alexchadinAdded _get_model_list base method for all get_*_list methods needs new PS #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/559481/08:54
eraklialexchadin: unittests in work08:54
alexchadinerakli: got it08:54
alexchadinmox-removal should be reviewed #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:mox-removal+(status:open+OR+status:merged)+project:openstack/watcher-dashboard08:54
Yumeng+108:55
alexchadinlicanwei: I'll review the remaining ones08:55
alexchadinYumeng: got it!08:55
alexchadin#action Yumeng alexchadin review https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:mox-removal+(status:open+OR+status:merged)+project:openstack/watcher-dashboard08:55
alexchadinwoah08:55
licanweialexchadin yumeng: thanks!08:55
alexchadinjust in time!08:56
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alexchadinoh, a little reminder: Rocky-1 milestone is scheduled on 16-20 April08:56
alexchadinI will release all watcher repos by 19-20 April08:57
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alexchadinthank you for attending!08:58
alexchadinbye08:58
eraklibye08:58
Yumenggot it . bye08:58
suzhengweibye08:58
licanweibye~08:58
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hidekazubye08:58
alexchadin#endmeeting08:59
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zhaochao#startmeeting trove14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Apr 11 14:00:06 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is zhaochao. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'trove'14:00
zhaochao#topic roll call14:00
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songjiano/14:00
fanzhango/14:00
Yaohi~14:00
zhaochaohi, wait for a while to see whether others will show up14:02
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zhaochaoOK, let's start14:04
Yaoseems zhanggang can't connected to meeting channel, there are some problems in his network14:04
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zhaochaoO, sorry for that14:04
zhaochao#topic Rocky goal updates14:04
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kumarmnhi14:05
zhaochaohi, kumarmn14:05
fanzhanglong time no see from last meeting, lately it seems the trove team is sort of inactive :)14:06
zhaochaoI was kind of busy in last two weeks, so mox removal from trove-dashboard continues from this week, I submitted two patches yesterday and today14:07
YaoLack of test environment and busy work, slow progress with osc migration14:07
fanzhangabout nova file injection deprecation, I've submitted the spec for awhile.14:07
Yaosorry for that14:07
kumarmnI reviewed your proposal for the file injection deprecation.14:08
zhaochaoChuck Short also submitted one patch under this topic, so mox removal from trove-dashboard may be completed soon14:08
fanzhangyeah, thanks for your big +1 kumarmn  :)14:08
zhaochaoYao: that's fine, slow progress is also progress, :)14:09
zhaochaofanzhang: for file injection, user data seems to be the solution, detecting existing cloud.init configuration is still not easy14:10
songjianThere are some gnocchi jobs that need to be processed,there is not much time yet. sorry14:10
fanzhangI guess zhaochao is right, I ignored the scenario that maybe we have to support different type of user data for cloud-init. I've committed an update, although I did not have accomplished that yet, but I think it's possible.14:11
fanzhangI mean I don14:11
fanzhangI mean I don't try it out with code, but I think it would work14:11
zhaochaosongjian: :) it's fine, we could only participate when we have time and resource,14:13
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fanzhangall the scripts should start with one line like #!, #cloud-config etc. We can map it with content-types like text/x-shellscript, text/cloud-config. More details here http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/format.html#mime-multi-part-archive14:14
zhaochaofanzhang: I took a quick look through about the update, the problem is if we don't know the format of the existing config, we need to reimplement how cloud-init parses files14:15
zhaochaofanzhang: existing config could be any format cloud-init supports, e.g. it's could also be in MIME multipart format ?14:16
fanzhangThen we can use some modules to squash all the existing scripts into one mine multi-part file, like this one https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Cj6dSHNhdp/14:16
fanzhangyes, it could happen14:16
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fanzhangbut IMHO, we can do step by step14:17
fanzhangI'd like to hear more from kumarmn and Yao since you all give me +1 earlier. :)14:18
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fanzhangand as for current *.cloudinit script, I think most operators would just write some #bin/bash script, maybe it's unusual to write a MIME multipart file directly14:20
kumarmnhttps://docs.openstack.org/trove/latest/admin/building_guest_images.html indicates there are 3 ways of injecting files. use_heat, use_nova_server_config_drive and nova_create.14:21
kumarmnAre all three getting deprecated?14:21
zhaochaoheat supporting has been removed already14:22
songjianyes,Should the o version be removed?14:23
songjianor pike14:23
fanzhangI am not sure with use_nova_server_config_drive, but using parameter "files" when doing nova create is deprecated14:24
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zhaochaouse_nova_server_config_drive seems used for userdata, if true, use config-drive, else use metadata service, but I'm not sure about this14:25
fanzhangno, me neither.14:26
fanzhangbut, even if this parameter is existed, it only tells we can pass userdata into instance via config driver, not metadata service14:27
fanzhanguser data is still passed through --user-data I guess14:28
fanzhangby --user-data14:28
Yaofanzhang: I received a phone call just now. You mean this one ?https://review.openstack.org/#/c/557583/14:28
fanzhangyes14:29
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YaoI have not seen yet^_^. Will do later14:30
zhaochaoyes, it's not related to the guest_info and guestagent.conf, these two files are injected by the 'files' parameter of novaclient, i.e. using the personality way of file injection14:30
zhaochaofanzhang: so, what about adding a new configuration about cloudinit-format, i.e. asking the operators to specify which cloud-init configuration format they're using14:31
fanzhangit can work, but IMHO, we can read the file then process it by program. And we can support only simple format at first, I mean don't support mime multipart file14:34
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zhaochaofanzhang: OK, this could also be acceptable by now, I also think this bp should be proved asap14:36
fanzhangsure, I'd like we're all on the same page :)14:37
fanzhangI thought about add Matt, core developer of nova, to help review this spec, too afraid of being mocked 🤣14:38
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fanzhanganother thing is http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-April/129254.html14:39
zhaochaofanzhang: and another one, although "use_nova_server_config_drive" is not related to this before, but after we switch to user-data, this configuration may do affect, i.e. 'force_config_drive' in the bp may not needed14:40
zhaochaofanzhang: but I'm not sure by now, should do more investigation about this config14:40
fanzhangkumarmn should we submit a revert patch of  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527755/ to test if oslo.service is fixed?14:41
kumarmnwe could try it as a test, and that would be feedback to dims14:42
fanzhangzhaochao yes, I am sure about use_nova_server_config_drive, never saw it before. If it could work, the force_config_drive is no long needed14:42
fanzhangkumarmn, cool :) will do tomorrow14:42
fanzhangI am not sure about14:42
zhaochaoI also read about discussion today, but this may not be tested easily,  In the gate, we install oslo.service by pip, not by source, and the previous problem seems in senario tests14:44
fanzhangso I should or someone else should test it locally?14:45
zhaochaoI personally think oslo.service could just merge the patch first, and then we could do more investigations about what's failing14:46
zhaochaofanzhang: If you have the resource, please try to test it locally14:46
fanzhangjust run functional test, right?14:46
fanzhangfunctional tests and unit tests14:47
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zhaochaofanzhang: any of the scenario tests should be OK, unittests may not be affected, but you could try unittests first14:47
fanzhangsure, I can do that.14:48
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zhaochaotrove-functional-mysql seems also an scenario test, just like trove-scenario-mysql-single, and trove-scenario-mysql-multi14:49
fanzhangso a revert patch is also needed?14:49
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dimskumarmn : fanzhang : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/558206/ has not merged yet, so not released.14:50
zhaochaofanzhang: no, oslo.service in global-requirement has been bumped up for many times14:50
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fanzhangI am confused. It's not merged yet, then how can I test if it works fine?14:51
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zhaochaodims: yes, so I personally would like to see the patch merged in oslo.service first, and then try to do some more investigations on how it fails trove gate jobs14:52
dimszhaochao : i would love to do that too if you all are ok14:52
dimszhaochao : fanzhang : just leave a note on the review that it's ok to do that :)14:53
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zhaochaofanzhang: for unittests, you could manually merge the patch in oslo.service, and use pip development install mode to install oslo.service in the unittest tox env14:53
zhaochaodims: OK, I'll add a review later, :)14:54
zhaochaoSo do we have any other topics today?14:55
fanzhangnothing more from my side. Oh, I am sort of curious about maciej and the ocatavia way bp things, is the progress good? LOL14:55
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kumarmnI will be talking to the folks at Scylla later this week. Not sure whether they have enough skills to write a guestagent.14:56
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kumarmnIf anyone has gone through the process of writing a guestagent let me know.14:56
kumarmnAlso let me know who all are planning to go to the summit in Vancouver.14:57
zhaochaohuntxu may be busy on the other project and the internal work these days, I'll talk about the bp with him when appropriate14:57
kumarmnzhaochao, I have booked a 'Project update' session for trove.14:57
fanzhangwhy do you want to write a guest agent kumarmn14:57
kumarmnI do not. Trying the db developers of scylla to write a guestagent.14:58
zhaochaokumarmn: O, I didn't plan for Vancouver summit, sorry for that14:58
fanzhangoh, all right, don't know what is scylla14:58
zhaochaoO, just forget to mention, the next week the rock milestone-114:59
kumarmnalso wanted to make you aware that luke browning has written a tool to test patches before merging.14:59
kumarmnhttps://github.com/lukebrowning/tools/tree/master/trove14:59
kumarmnSo this is one way to test dims patch14:59
zhaochaoplease help to review the current opening patches14:59
fanzhangcool kumarmn, thanks14:59
fanzhangzhaochao  will do15:00
zhaochaokumarmn: got that, thanks15:00
zhaochaoOK, time is up15:00
fanzhangbye :)15:00
kumarmnciao!15:00
zhaochaoGood night!15:00
zhaochao#endmeeting15:00
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dimskumarmn : cool, i'll work the system from oslo side, while you all try from the trove side15:10
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rkukuraanyone here for ML2 today?16:06
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