Thursday, 2018-01-25

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bswartz#startmeeting manila15:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 25 15:00:32 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bswartz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: manila)"15:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'manila'15:00
amitoo/ hello15:00
bswartzhello all15:00
dustins\o15:00
gouthamrhello o/15:00
gansohello15:00
zhongjunHi15:01
xyanghi15:01
tbarronhi15:01
bswartzhey guys, sorry I'm dropping a -2 on some patches15:02
bswartzOkay!15:03
tbarronthud15:03
bswartz#topic announcements15:03
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: manila)"15:03
bswartzToday is the last day for features to merge15:03
jungleboyj@!15:03
bswartzI need to push tags today15:03
bswartzjungleboyj: your bot is awol15:04
* jungleboyj is sad15:04
bswartzI don't think we have an other announcements15:04
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bswartzFeature freeze is usually the biggest deadline15:05
bswartz#agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila/Meetings15:05
bswartz#topic Feature Freeze / Queens milestone-315:05
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bswartzSo we've been trying to get the last feature patches merged this week15:05
bswartzThere's been good progress, but this morning I still see some unmerged patches, so let's go through them15:06
bswartzThe filtering for the share type API won't make it, so I've already block those 2 patches15:06
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bswartzWe have this one waiting for a workflow: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/527134/15:07
* tbarron is timing out connecting to gerrit atm15:08
gouthamrwas testing that one, need xyang/tbarron to weigh in15:08
gouthamror zhongjun15:08
bswartzgouthamr: found any issues worth discussing?15:08
gouthamrnope15:08
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bswartzhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/528667/15:09
bswartz^ This one looks like it's suffering infra problems15:09
gouthamrouch, rechecking15:09
bswartzhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/535701/15:10
bswartz^ This is a 5 line change15:10
efriedNo rechecking15:10
bswartzBoth of its dependencies are merged15:10
efriedWait for next infra broadcast15:10
bswartzefried: ?15:10
tbarronbswartz: 535701 is ok, I was just waiting for the dependencies15:11
efried NOTICE: We're currently experiencing issues with the logs.openstack.org server which will result in POST_FAILURE for jobs, please stand by and don't needlessly recheck jobs while we troubleshoot the problem.15:11
bswartzefried: is the recheck machinery broken?15:11
* bswartz smh15:11
gouthamrhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/535701/ is failing a bunch of third party CIs15:11
tbarronthirdy party CIs are failing for another reason15:12
tbarronthird15:12
bswartzganso: can you speak to that?15:12
tbarronincluding NetApp15:12
gansobswartz: erlon and I are diagnosing a CI failure due to library update15:13
gouthamrlooks like a broken package atleast for NTAP, python-pcre15:13
tbarronpython-pcre paacke issue15:13
gansobswartz: erlon says all CIs are failing15:13
tbarronhttp://52.42.67.99/67/537867/1/check/dsvm-veritas-access-manila-driver/95ec234/logs/devstack-early.txt.gz#_2018-01-25_12_22_34_36315:13
tbarronganso: all 3rd party15:13
* bswartz headdesk15:13
tbarronganso: not infra15:13
tbarroninfra jobs are working, ubuntu and centos, but ubuntu 3rd party has the issue15:14
erlon_tbarron, yep infra not, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534854/15:14
erlon_but 90% of the tird party15:14
bswartzOkay, this is a perfect illustration of why it's better to get stuff merged on Monday or Tuesday, not Thursday15:14
erlon_not sure why15:14
bswartzLibrary problems seem to happen every release15:14
bswartzIs it something we can get sorted out this morning?15:14
bswartzOr will we have to accept that third party CI is broken until after FF?15:15
tbarronhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/537867/ is a DNM job that illustrates15:15
erlon_bswartz, not sure, couldnt get help from #infra as they are focusing on the logserver problem15:15
tbarroninfra jobs are all passing, third party are all failing15:15
gansotbarron: not really passing, they have POST_FAILURE issue now15:16
bswartz#link https://pypi.python.org/pypi/python-pcre/0.615:16
bswartzthis?15:16
gouthamrinfra has mirrors, they'll be affected late :)15:16
erlon_ganso, they are going further at least :p15:16
tbarronganso: they passed in 537867 two hours ago, iow they don't have the package issue15:17
tbarrongouthamr: ah, maybe just delayed15:17
bswartzI don't understand what's changed15:18
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bswartzThat package hasn't been modified since 2015 according to pypi15:18
erlon_bswartz, Im not getting the problem as well, the bindep is already there, for long time: https://github.com/openstack/requirements/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=pcre&type=15:19
erlon_so, devstack or something else should know that it should be installed before trying to install the python lib15:19
bswartzI'm confused15:20
tbarrondid we always have to compile it?15:20
bswartztbarron -- if you install from pip, I think the native parts get compiled as part of the install15:20
tbarronlooks like the dev pkg might be missing, the compile fails for lack of pcre.h15:20
erlon_tbarron, not sure, may be that was what is different now, now it needs to be compiled15:21
bswartzIf you install from apt/yum you get a distro-compile binary15:21
tbarronbswartz: ack, understood15:21
bswartzIt's possible the pcre-dev package moved some files and the python package is now broken15:22
bswartzSo there may be a python-pcre 0.7.1 very soon15:22
erlon_bswartz, that will download the pcre lib only, the pip package still need to compile15:22
bswartzI'm okay with ignoring the 3rd party CIs until that issue is sorted15:22
bswartzIt sounds like the upstream gate might be about to get less friendly for the same reasons, so we should hurry up and merge what we can15:23
bswartzOkay are there any other patches I missed?15:24
bswartzFor Q-3?15:24
bswartzIf not, I'm going to watch for the last few things to get through the gate and push tags as soon as they make it15:24
tbarronlooking at devstack-early log in a successful third party CI run from a couple weeks ago I see no mention of python-pcre15:25
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bswartzI know the netapp guys will dig into to try to fix the netapp CI at least15:27
bswartzPlease share any fixes you find on the channel15:27
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bswartzAnd lmk if you want my help on that CI issue15:27
bswartzOkay I think that's it for feature freeze15:28
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tpsilvaa quick workaround we found is to install libpcre3-dev on the nodes before stacking15:28
bswartztpsilva: ty15:28
bswartz#topic Let's Go Over New Bugs15:29
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bswartzBefore we get into specific bugs, let me remind y'all that the focus between feature freeze and RC1 should be on finding and fixing bugs15:29
bswartzThere are some bugfix patches already waiting for reviews15:30
bswartzI will be targeting bugs at the RC1 milestone in LP15:30
bswartzArguably, finding bug is as important as fixing the known bugs, so I encourage people to test out some of the new features and try to break them15:30
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bswartzThe RC1 target date for us is 2 weeks from now15:31
bswartzAs always, we'll cut the RC1 tag when the number of bugs drops to zero, whether that's early or late15:32
bswartzBut the closer we get to the target date, the more aggressively we'll untarget bugs -- our release manager don't like late RCs15:32
bswartz:-)15:33
bswartzdustins: do you have specific bugs for today?15:33
dustinsI do indeed15:33
dustins#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/155025815:33
openstackLaunchpad bug 1550258 in Manila "Manila UI - Manage rule for CIFS share updates status from "error" to "active" for invalid users" [Low,New]15:33
bswartz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila-bug-triage-pad15:33
bswartzWow this is an old one15:34
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bswartzWhy did I target this to manila-ui?15:34
gouthamrit's marked invalid on manila-ui15:34
bswartzIt must have been a click error15:34
bswartzIn any case, is it HP3par specific?15:35
tbarronthere was a ui screenshot in the bug report but then it was realized that it's not a ui bug15:35
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dustinsIt looks like it manifested first in the UI but is caused by a Manila "core" thing15:35
dustinsBut yeah, I think this may be specific to the 3PAR driver?15:36
tbarronwould it make sense to ask if the issue is still reproducible?15:36
bswartzI'm not convinced there's any problem outside the 3par driver15:36
tbarronor close saying re-open if it's still an issue15:36
tbarronwe don't have any active HP 3par folks here15:37
bswartzThe maintainer is Ravichandran Nudurumati <ravichandrann@hpe.com>15:37
bswartzNo known IRC nick for him15:37
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bswartzIt's up to HPE whether they want to fix this bug or not -- I don't see what we can do without access to their hardware15:38
dustinsYeah, I was kinda hoping that we had an HPE representative to provide some feedback15:39
bswartznext?15:39
tbarronwhat was the disposition?15:39
tbarronassign or close?15:40
tbarronwe need to clear the backlog, not just talk about the bugs.15:40
bswartzI think we leave it unassigned, low importance15:40
bswartzWe can mark it traiged15:40
tbarron-115:40
bswartztriaged even15:40
tbarronok, I'm just looking for ways to make some progress15:41
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bswartzI don't see how we can close it -- it's likely still an issue that users of the HPE driver should be aware of15:41
* tbarron adds tags15:41
bswartzHopefully if someone users the driver and finds the bug, they can go bother HPE about getting it fixed15:42
tbarrontags: drivers, hpe-3par15:42
xyang+115:42
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xyangwe do tags in cinder15:42
dustins#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/170050115:43
openstackLaunchpad bug 1700501 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Insecure rootwrap usage" [Undecided,Incomplete]15:43
dustinsThis is the next one for us15:43
tbarronnote sdague: "this is too vague to be actiionable"15:44
tbarronthere's a proposed cross-project initiative for privsep15:44
bswartzWow15:45
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tbarronwe should talk at PTG about whether we should be migrating manila to privsep15:45
bswartzYeah rootwrap was always a pretty hacky approach to fixing security issues15:45
bswartztbarron: Can you add that to the ptg etherpad if its not there already?15:45
tbarronbswartz: yes15:46
bswartzI don't know the details of privsep15:46
tbarronwe should talk about what it is and whether / when we want to do it15:46
bswartzIt's important to note that the security issues addressed by rootwrap are for the most part theoretical issues15:46
tbarronyeah, I'm not sayiing that we shouldn't fix specific rootwrap issues (like too broad commands specified, etc.) just15:47
tbarronthat this bug is open ended15:47
bswartzRootwrap exists to reduce the chances of an exploit in the API services from turning into a more general exploit of the machine the services run on15:47
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bswartzOur first line of defense is the API services themselves, and while python is bad at many things, it's pretty good at preventing over-the-network exploits15:48
bswartzI'm reading about privsep -- is anyone already familiar with it?15:50
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tbarronkinda sorta, need to refresh15:50
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tbarronjungleboyj: cinder has some experience attempting privsep migration, not all positive, right?15:51
bswartzFrom what I see, it's unclear that privsep helps at all15:51
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* tbarron will try to see where other projects are on this15:51
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jungleboyjtbarron:  It was complicated but we got there.15:52
jungleboyjtbarron:  Some of it was learning curve for people on how to use it.15:53
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dustinsjungleboyj: Are there good docs on how to transition to privsep?15:53
jungleboyjdustins:  Not sure.  I think hemna did a lot of the work there.  Could check with him.15:54
tbarronone thing privsep does is encourage use of libraries rather than shell commands to achieve the needed15:54
bswartzI'd like someone to explain how privsep is any better than a properly locked-down rootwrap config15:54
dustinsNot a bad idea, if it's something that other projects are doing we should leverage their experience and expertise15:54
bswartztbarron: I can see that working for some things15:54
bswartzIn particular stuff like the "chmod 777 /etc/shadow" exploit listed in the bug15:55
tbarronright15:55
bswartzBut so much of what manila does is invoking binaries that will never have python-library equivalents15:55
bswartzThen again, much of that is driver specific...15:56
tbarronI've got an AI to see where other projects are on quota replacement before PTG, let me see what I can find out about privsep as well.15:56
bswartzPerhaps we could modularize the rootwrap and only enable parts of it related to the specific drivers in use15:56
tbarronDid it help?15:56
tbarronetc.15:56
bswartzokay15:56
bswartzWe're low on time15:57
bswartzdustins: anything else?15:57
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tbarronmention the default share type one quick15:57
dustins#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/174347215:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1743472 in Manila "Create a default share type for tempest tests" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc)15:57
vkmco/15:57
dustinsvkmc: Take it away!15:57
vkmcabout to submit a fix for that, I'm running test locally15:57
vkmcs/test/tempest tests/g15:57
bswartzWe discuss this one already didn't we?15:57
tbarronbswartz: just noting that there's some action on that front ...15:58
bswartzOr am I remembering a conversation in another venue?15:58
vkmcplus, we need to add the dependency for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532713/... it's almost a duplicate15:58
dustinsbswartz: A related one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/manila/+bug/174347215:58
openstackLaunchpad bug 1743472 in Manila "Create a default share type for tempest tests" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Victoria Martinez de la Cruz (vkmc)15:58
bswartzOkay15:58
vkmcbswartz, yeah, about two weeks ago15:58
bswartzOkay let's make sure to get those patches reviewed before RC115:59
bswartzThanks vkmc15:59
vkmcnp15:59
bswartzFeel free to ping me for a review when it's ready15:59
bswartzThat's all we have time for today15:59
* bswartz prays the last few patches merge soon15:59
bswartzThanks all16:00
vkmcwill do, thx16:00
bswartz#endmeeting16:00
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