Wednesday, 2018-01-24

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kumarmn#startmeeting trove14:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Jan 24 14:59:38 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kumarmn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:59
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:59
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: trove)"14:59
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'trove'14:59
kumarmn#topic rollcall15:00
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fanzhang o/15:00
Yao_o/15:00
songjiano/15:00
fanzhangmaciejjozefczyk you there ?15:01
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kumarmnhe does not seem to be. not sure what happened to zhanggang.15:03
fanzhangzhanggang is here15:04
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fanzhangsome network issue15:04
kumarmnokay. we can get started.15:04
kumarmn#topic queens-315:04
*** openstack changes topic to "queens-3 (Meeting topic: trove)"15:04
kumarmnI dropped a change to tag the client, as recommended:15:04
kumarmnhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/536893/15:04
kumarmnI will tag trove and trove-dashboard later this week.15:05
kumarmnAny other changes you guys want to get in as major features?15:05
fanzhangno changes from me.15:06
songjianno changes from me15:07
kumarmnPostgres 9.6 is in. Couchbase 3.0, I could not test since I do not have an amd64 environment.15:07
zhanggangno changes from me too15:07
kumarmnHow about redis 3.2 on fedora?15:07
kumarmnhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/534179/15:07
kumarmnfrom songjian?15:07
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songjianNow only to determine the ability to install, but can not be verified in the trove environment, because the company's environment is not available15:09
kumarmnokay, will not wait.15:09
kumarmnWhat this also means is that the client changes are frozen.15:09
kumarmnhttps://releases.openstack.org/queens/schedule.html15:09
kumarmnAlso it means that there is a soft freeze on the messages, so that translations can get done.15:09
kumarmnHard stringfreeze is coming up in two weeks.15:10
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fanzhangso no need to merge future client changes in the coming two weeks?15:10
kumarmnSo, I would emphasize core reviewers not to merge client changes in the next few weeks.15:11
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fanzhangOK, got it :)15:11
kumarmnyes fanzhang. that is definitely how I interpret it15:11
songjianok, received15:11
Yao_copy that15:12
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kumarmnAnything else on the queens-3 topic?15:12
fanzhangwhat about retire trove-integration ?15:13
kumarmnWhat do you guys think. Did all of trove-integration get moved in?15:13
kumarmnAnything else we need to do before we retire?15:13
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fanzhangsongjian may be more familiar with that15:14
kumarmnYou guys both have given a +2. So I can merge it this week.15:15
songjianAmrith did that at the end of 2016 years, and it looks like we only need a notification email to be retire15:15
fanzhangsure, a gentle reminder, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119825.html this is the mail sent by Amrith15:15
kumarmnAmrith sent that notification email. Do not know that we need to do anything else.15:16
kumarmnI can send another email confirming if necessary.15:16
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songjianI think it is necessary15:17
kumarmnok, I will send out another email.15:17
songjianAfter all, it passed too long15:17
fanzhangseems better to do that in case of missing something...15:17
kumarmnthanks15:19
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kumarmn#topic core reviewers15:19
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kumarmnLooking at the stackalytics data, I would like to promote Yao_ and zhanggang to core15:19
kumarmnCurrent cores ok with that?15:20
kumarmnhttp://stackalytics.com/?module=trove-group&metric=marks15:20
fanzhangyes, why not :) a big +1 from me15:20
songjianagree,Thanks for their long-term contribution15:21
kumarmnThanks. I will give them +2 authority.15:21
kumarmnCongrats Yao_ and zhanggang15:21
zhanggangThanks15:21
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Yao_Great honor . I will do more work for trove project.,thanks all15:22
kumarmnThanks for all your hard work this cycle.15:22
zhanggang I am very honored15:22
fanzhangBTW, Zhao Chao is very active recently, I worked with him at Eayun, he's kind my team leader, really hope he can be as a core :)15:23
kumarmnYes, I will add him as well. We need to get him to these meetings as well.15:23
fanzhangbut, I now work at China Telecom, he works for Awcloud.15:24
fanzhangThanks, will contact him :)15:24
kumarmn#topic Rocky cycle15:25
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kumarmnI wanted to let you all know that I do not plan to nominate myself as PTL for the Rocky cycle.15:25
kumarmnI would like others to consider running. The elections are coming up in two weeks.15:25
fanzhangWhat?15:25
kumarmnI do not think I can commit that kind of time, especially if Rocky becomes a year long cycle.15:26
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kumarmnthe PTL role is supposed to rotate, as per the guidelines of the TC. Any one can step up to the PTL.15:27
kumarmnI can provide guidance, if anyone wants to know what it takes.15:27
fanzhangLooks like you all leaving trove :(  Really hope we can continue to work with you in the next cycle. But thanks for the remarkable work you've done.15:28
fanzhangI don't think we are ready to be the PTL, at least, I'm not ready :(15:29
kumarmnI will watch from the sidelines. Not planning to leave.15:29
kumarmnHow about you songjian? Would you consider nominating yourself?15:29
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songjianno,seems I have many things as a core reviewer.15:30
songjianPTL is really hard for me15:30
kumarmnIt does not take much. As I said I can provide guidance.15:31
songjianmany thing to learn15:31
kumarmnYou have to run these meetings. And then keep track of the release.15:31
songjianOne less word was typed above15:31
kumarmnDrop a few changes to tag at various milestones.15:31
fanzhangit may need a LOT experience...15:32
kumarmnIn any case, you guys think about it. If you nominate yourself, likely that you will be elected as there is not going to be anyone running against you.15:33
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fanzhangWhat if no one steps up to the PTL...15:33
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kumarmnNot sure what happens. Perhaps the TC nominates.15:34
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songjianIt's a big deal, and every core-reviewer should think about whether there is a person who thinks fit. . . We may be able to feed back these results next week15:36
kumarmnYes, the process is supposed to be self nomination followed by an election. I think it is OK if two people nominate themselves. The better candidate would win the election.15:37
fanzhangmaciejjozefczyk contacted me two days ago, he said about reviving trove, and he also said that ovh may want to participate more in trove in the future. That's why I checked if he's here15:39
kumarmnYes, I know OVH and other public cloud companies in Europe are very interested. That is how fei long wang, also got involved.15:40
fanzhangHave to bring the message to him, see if he could do something at this crucial time15:40
kumarmnokay, I will reach out to him.15:40
fanzhangAnother topic I want to bring up is about zuul experimental jobs15:41
kumarmnI will also send out a note, un-nominating myself as the others have done this week (matt, fei logn etc)15:41
kumarmn#topic experimental15:41
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kumarmnYes, I wanted to talk about it as well.15:41
fanzhanghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/536677/ I posted this patch just to test the experimental jobs, as mentioned in the comments, looks like we have to deal with the env issues15:42
kumarmnYou should be able to do a 'check experimental' comment and get the jobs to run.15:42
kumarmnAfter the jobs moved to Xenial, Luke noticed that the *dep* files were missing from the elements.15:43
kumarmnSo I dropped I change to that yesterday. I tried it with percona, and percona was passing etc.15:43
kumarmnDo you know why they are failing fanzhang?15:43
fanzhangFrom the comments you can see15:43
fanzhangI dig into a little bit15:44
fanzhangbut just got more questions and i was confused how to fix that15:45
kumarmnPercona passed yesterday, when I merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/536950/15:46
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fanzhangYes, i noticed that, but after rechecking, the jobs failed15:47
fanzhangany ideas how I can fix that in order to proceed ?15:47
kumarmnI can look at it, when I get some time.15:48
kumarmnAs we mentioned it last week, I think it is important to get these passing.15:49
fanzhangthanks so much, no need to rush, as it's a future job in Rocky15:50
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kumarmnagreed15:50
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fanzhangwhen should we stop merge patches in trove, one last question tonight kumarmn15:51
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kumarmnNo major features after this week. Bug fixes should be fine until the last RC, but fewer more critical fixes in the later RC15:54
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fanzhangOK, get it :) I don't know what to say right now, the shocking news you brought up really hit me15:55
kumarmnno problem. I would encourage one of you to run. I became core and PTL on almost the same day. So it is not that hard!15:56
fanzhangThanks again for your remarkable work, pleasure to work with you :D15:57
kumarmnthanks. have a good week. will talk to you all next week.15:58
Yao_thanks kumarmn15:58
fanzhangand ... time's running up15:58
kumarmnYao_ and zhanggang, you should have +2 authority now.15:58
kumarmn#endmeeting15:59
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Jan 24 15:59:16 2018 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:59
Yao_Thanks again15:59
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-01-24-14.59.html15:59
zhanggangthanks15:59
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-01-24-14.59.txt15:59
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/trove/2018/trove.2018-01-24-14.59.log.html15:59
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