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masahitohi all, time to blazar team meeting09:01
masahito#startmeeting blazar09:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 15 09:01:54 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.09:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.09:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: blazar)"09:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'blazar'09:01
masahito#topic RollCall09:02
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priteauo/09:03
masahitopriteau: hi priteau09:03
masahitotoday's agenda is09:03
masahito1. Pike release09:03
masahito2. Queens release09:03
masahito3. Review09:03
masahito4. Denver PTG09:03
masahito5. AOB09:04
masahitoanything else?09:04
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masahito#chair priteau09:05
openstackCurrent chairs: masahito priteau09:05
priteauIs it just the two of us this week?09:05
masahitolooks like.09:05
masahitooh, hiro-kobayashi is out of town this week.09:05
priteauOK09:05
masahitothis week is summer vacation season in Japan.09:05
masahitos/season/week/09:06
masahito#topic Pike release09:06
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masahitoall BPs and the bug reports for the Pike is here.09:07
masahitohttps://launchpad.net/blazar/+milestone/0.3.009:07
masahitoI think most of the BP is already implemented.09:07
priteauDo you think https://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/1709103 could be considered for Pike?09:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1709103 in Blazar "Blazar doesn't populate lease user_id" [Undecided,New]09:07
priteauI have a fix in Chameleon but it's not very clean: https://github.com/ChameleonCloud/blazar/commit/54592e5d0d1cdc9f21de8f7bf03a42db9c359f3609:08
masahitoI didn't notice it.09:08
masahitopriteau: do you have a time to push it in one week?09:10
masahitoif nothing, we can backport it later.09:10
priteauI think my patch is not necessarily the best solution. It should be better integrated in the context module09:10
priteauAlthough we could add it as a workaround with a TODO to fix later09:11
priteauI can do that09:11
masahitoIMO, the change for v1/service.py need to be changed.09:12
priteauyes, but that's the only solution I have for now09:12
priteauWould you be OK with this solution temporarily?09:13
priteauand in this commit the change in climate/manager/service.py becomes a no-op, so I would just remove the line setting user_id09:13
masahitogot it. push the current patch with FIXME comment and Partial-bug tag.09:14
priteauOK09:14
masahitoand add 0.4.0 milestone and backport tag to the bug report. I think it works for us.09:15
priteauI would also like to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/blazar/+bug/130623109:15
openstackLaunchpad bug 1306231 in Blazar "Climate V2 API lets a non admin user list all leases" [Medium,Won't fix] - Assigned to Pablo Andres Fuente (pablo-a-fuente)09:15
priteauActually, not quite that bug.09:16
priteauBasically in Blazar there is no tenant namespace, a lease cannot be named the same by two different tenants09:17
priteauin Chameleon we have changed the code to allow two different leases to have the same name, if they are not from the same tenant09:17
priteauIs this something that we would like to have in Blazar?09:18
masahitoI hit similar things in my local.09:18
masahitoit could.09:18
masahitomy question is the isolation should be in user base or in tenant base.09:19
masahitoIn keystone V3, user belongs to domain, not to project(tenant).09:20
priteauuh?09:20
priteauAFAIK users still belong to projects09:21
priteauDomains are in addition to them09:21
priteauhttps://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-obs/common/glossary.html#term-domain09:21
priteauhttps://docs.openstack.org/ocata/install-guide-obs/common/glossary.html#term-project09:21
priteauIt still makes sense to separate users by projects, even if they all belong to the same domain09:22
priteauBy the way, this is the patch to allow same lease names across different projects: https://github.com/ChameleonCloud/blazar/commit/410507ea8865b6fa5780af2b6cea8a1689eccf5e09:23
masahitoone user can belong to multi project.09:24
priteauIt is missing the DB migration09:24
priteauYes, of course one user can belong to multiple projects. And they can create leases in each on of them.09:24
priteauSo, Alice can create a lease called "my-lease" in project A she belongs to, and another lease called "my-lease" in project B she belongs to.09:25
masahitoso in your case, one user want to have different leases with same name in different project?09:25
priteauWell, in Chameleon she can09:25
priteauyep09:25
priteauIn Nova you can even create instances with the same name in the same project09:25
masahitoIt looks right way for naming.09:26
priteauAnd it Glance too09:26
priteauSo we could even relax our rules and allow different leases with the same name in the same project09:27
masahitoit makes sense09:27
priteauAlthough I tend to avoid it because it becomes confusing09:27
masahitospeaking for the bug, what do you want to do it?09:27
priteauActually the bug I linked to was not relevant09:28
priteauI can create a new bug to track this issue09:28
priteauOr search if there is an existing one09:28
masahitothe tenancy support is good as BP.09:28
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masahitob/c there is a discussion we should have it or not and schema change is required or not.09:29
priteauOK09:30
priteauSo probably no change for Pike09:30
priteauBut for Q?09:30
masahitoyes.09:30
masahitoit's ok for me.09:30
priteauGreat09:30
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masahitoIMO,  a lease belongs to a project where the token of requests is issued.09:31
masahitos/issued/issued or scoped/09:31
priteauOf course, there is no discussion about what project the lease belongs to09:32
priteauIt's really about rules for naming09:32
priteauThe unique identifier is the lease ID09:32
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masahitooh I see. I was misunderstood what you want.09:33
priteauIt's not a good user experience if you can't create a lease named like you want09:33
masahitowhat you want is just not unique naming, right?09:33
priteauyes09:33
priteaunothing else changes09:33
masahitothen one project can have multi leases with same name.09:34
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masahitook, it's not need to be BP. just be bug report targeting Q and tagged backport.09:35
priteauOK09:35
masahitoI was confused with the tenancy problem :-)09:36
priteauBack to Pike milestone09:36
priteauLooks like we have all BP done/in review except for Support atomic transactions09:36
masahitoyup09:36
priteauShould we move that to Q?09:36
masahitoyes, I'll move the atomic one.09:37
masahitoAdditionally, I plan to change the status of other BP which are in revew status to implemented later09:37
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masahitoif there are some tasks like 'create tempest tests', I report it as a bug report to track them.09:38
masahitoDoes it make sense?09:38
priteauSure09:39
masahitoanything else to Pike release?09:40
masahito#topic Queens release09:40
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masahitoI created a milestone page for Q09:41
masahitohttps://launchpad.net/blazar/+milestone/0.4.009:41
masahitoif there is BPs or bugs targeting it, please add reference to it :-)09:42
masahitothat's it for Q release. anything else?09:42
priteauI think we'll add more tasks to Q release during our September meeting09:43
masahitoright.09:43
masahito#topic Review09:44
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masahitoThe rest of reviews we need to be done before P would be...09:45
masahito1. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/climate-dashboard09:45
masahito2. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/update-reserved-capacity09:45
masahito3. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/new-instance-reservation09:45
masahitowe only need to review 8 patches.09:46
priteauYep, getting there09:46
priteauI was reviewing the blazar-nova patches before the meeting09:47
masahitooh, of course one more patch you mention before :->09:47
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masahitopriteau: thanks! there're something to revise?09:49
priteauNot yet, stil reading the code09:49
masahitookay, I'll wait your comment :-)09:49
masahito#topic AOB09:50
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masahitosomething to discuss/share?09:51
priteauYes09:52
priteauThere was a mailing list post about requirements updates09:52
priteauLet me find it again09:52
priteauI am not finding it. Anyway, the summary is that we shouldn't merge any requirement update until we've created the Pike branch09:53
priteauThe requirements project is going to reopen their master branch soon and the requirements updates coming from them will be for Q09:54
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priteauFound it09:54
priteau#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/120720.html09:54
masahitookay.09:56
priteauActually they've reopened already09:56
priteau#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-August/121084.html09:56
priteau"If your project does NOT have a stable/pike branch please review any bot generated changes *very* carefully until you do have a stable/pike branch."09:57
masahitoit could be hit blazar-dashboard.09:57
masahitopriteau: could you review the previous 8 patches in this week?09:57
masahitomainly for blazar-nova repo and blazar repo.09:57
priteauI think so. I believe I have already reviewed some of them09:58
masahitoif you can and we can merge it, I cut the branch ASAP.09:58
priteauI will do my best09:59
masahitowe decided patches of blazar-dashboard repo will be merged if there is no big issue.09:59
masahitome too.09:59
masahitopriteau: thanks for notifying it. I planed to cut the branch end of this month.10:00
priteauAs long as we don't merge requirements update, I think we can create the branch whenever we want10:00
priteauBut of course without merging requirements, we may start to see tests failures10:00
masahitoyes, the easy way is following the rule.10:01
masahitomeeting time is up.10:03
priteauThanks for the good conversation!10:03
masahitothanks! nice meeting!10:03
masahitobye10:03
masahito#endmeeting10:03
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catherineD#startmeeting refstack19:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Aug 15 19:00:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is catherineD. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:00
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catherineD#link meeting agenda and notes,  https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/refstack-meeting-17-08-1519:02
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catherineDLet's start ...19:05
hogepodgemguiney will be late today19:05
catherineD#topic Welcome Megan as core reviewer for RefStack19:06
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hogepodge\o/19:06
catherineDI have added mguiney as the core ...19:06
catherineDhogepodge: I guess I need to add you too?19:06
hogepodgecatherineD: yes19:06
luzCo/19:07
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catherineDI will do that after the meeting ... you definitely need that as our new  PTL19:07
luzCwhen is the PTL transition happening?19:08
catherineDEveryone, please welcome hogepodge: as our PTL for the next cycle19:08
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hogepodgeThank you!19:08
pvaneckWelcome new PTL!19:08
luzC:-) welcome19:09
catherineDluzC: I think voting ends tomorrow  ... we do not have any other candidate ... so hogepodge:  is our PTL19:09
hogepodgeI have big shoes to fill, and understand the unique circumstances in this transition.19:09
hogepodgethank you catherineD for being such an amazing project lead19:09
catherineDhogepodge: Thanks !19:09
* luzC totally agree, big thanks!19:10
catherineDso I know adding hogepodge: to  https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/281,members is the first step19:10
catherineDhogepodge: I guess you will run the meeting starting next week ?19:11
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hogepodgecatherineD: yes19:11
catherineDhogepodge: great!  Thanks!19:11
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mguineyo/19:12
catherineDhogepodge: I guess you and I can discuss more on what to do19:12
catherineDmguiney: welcome our core reviewer!!!19:12
mguiney(also yay! so exited to get started as a core!)19:13
catherineDmguiney: please check to see whether you can +2 ..19:13
hogepodgecongratulations mguiney!19:13
hogepodgecatherineD: yes, we can connect later. I have a lot to learn19:13
catherineDwill do19:14
catherineDanything else?19:14
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catherineDalright moving on ...19:15
mguineyIt looks like I do, in fact, have +219:15
catherineDmguiney: great19:16
catherineDok moving on ..19:16
catherineD#topic Run tool to update the verification field19:16
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catherineDany update?19:17
mguineyno, apologies19:18
catherineDmguiney: np .. I know it is a long process19:18
mguineywas working on some other tasks and did not get to it, i will put that high on my list this week19:18
mguineyit's been stalled too long >.<19:18
catherineDmguiney: np19:19
catherineD#topic subunit result files upload19:19
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catherineD#link     Set a custom alembic_version for refstack  (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487185/   )19:19
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mguineyyes! so there has been some forward movement on this front19:20
mguineyof course19:20
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catherineDhogepodge: you should be able to +2 now19:21
mguineyI had to make some tweaks to the alembic conf patch, and after deep diving into how do alembic, it has brought up an interesting possibility19:21
mguineynamely, that a migration script may not even be necessary, given that it is entirely possible to get alembic to recheck conf and modify the EnvironmentContext object it uses to manage the database based on that19:22
hogepodgemguiney: that sounds fantastic. Do you have a dataset you can test against?19:23
luzCalso for this patch there is a pending item to test the migration a populated DB19:24
luzCrigth?19:24
mguineyi've been working with a fresh db but populating the db is just a matter of running and uploading some smoke tests19:24
mguineyand then making sure it doesnt break when i make changes to conf19:24
mguineyluzC: as mentioned, I've been planning on running the testing on the upcoming version of the test with a populated database19:25
catherineDThe most important scenario to test is testing on an existing environment with the old version table name ..19:25
* mguiney nods19:25
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mguineybecause that's where trouble is most likely to occur19:26
catherineDmguiney: ++19:26
mguiney*of the patch19:26
catherineDso we will wait for those testing before we can merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487185/   ?19:26
* mguiney nods19:28
catherineDalright ..19:28
mguineythe minor change to conf, i think, is small enough and related enough, contextually that it likely doesnt merit its own patch19:28
mguineyto the code, not to conf19:29
catherineDmguiney: it is a good change ... maybe we just put a note in there that special handlings are needed  if the version table name is changed on an existing environment19:30
catherineDand the default is what we have today .. then we can merge the patch ...19:31
mguineycan do.19:31
mguineyThat said, I did want to get some opinions on things I mentioned re: patch comments19:31
mguiney(If we have time)19:32
mguineySpecifically about usage/documentation19:32
catherineDmguiney: we have time19:33
mguineymy thought was to mention the configuration/subunit data upload case conf modifications, setup and implications in the actual documentation, rather than doing so more verbosely in the CONF description19:33
catherineDregarding the setup of  alembic_version variable?19:35
mguineyThat way it would be easier to find, for someone who is considering how to set up a refstack server instance, as well as being fairly well in line with the current (optional) sections we have in setup docs as is19:35
mguineyand the implications of subunit data. Admittedly this was a more important thing to have a docs section for when migration was still the plan, but I thought I might get opinions regardless19:36
pvaneckyea, i think it is fine in the docs19:39
catherineDso in the past we hard code verstion table name as alembic_version  ... now we allow user to customize this table name by surface the variable version_table (default to alembic_version) in the config file19:39
catherineDwe just need to make a note that if the variable is changed on an existing environment then there are additional tasks that need to be performed before the name change19:40
mguineycan do19:40
mguineycool, thank you for that clarification19:40
catherineDok moving on19:41
catherineD#link     Create spec for optional subunit data import (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/480298/ )19:41
pvanecklooks fine to me19:42
luzCI'll take a look...19:42
luzCfrom what I recall it was good too19:43
luzCbut haven't check the latest changes19:43
catherineDMy only concern is we still investigating on the database stuff ... if we merge the spec as is ... that means that we will save the new table in the refstack db which we still investigate19:44
luzCI think we can wait...19:45
mguineythe only change was a tweak to make the wording a bit, er... kinder19:45
catherineDI feel more confortable to merge this spec we we isolate the backend db task out by stating that the subunit data will be save a a db and make this db a configurable parameter19:45
* mguiney nods19:46
catherineDthat way we have the option of saving it in the refstack db or its own db by just initializing the db name19:46
mguineythat makes sense, and it would just mean another conf check on refstack's end19:46
mguineywell, and perhaps the overhead of another db19:47
catherineDyea that way we have choices and do not need to change the spec if (for whatever reason) we do not want to use refstack db19:47
mguineybut to be fair, it also appears as though we will be able to store the results within the db even if we do have to use a small script to convert19:47
mguineyfair. Leaving the task a bit more flexible, in case of problematic dependencies or non configurable tooling, just in case19:48
catherineDso instead of spend time on db issue .. we work on the subunit issue first and then decide later when we learn more19:49
mguineymakes sense. I will get those changes made and push a new version a bit later today19:49
catherineDmguiney: thanks ..19:50
catherineD#topic Pending reviews19:50
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catherineD#link Add python35 support  (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483999/  )19:50
catherineDluzC: thank you for the patch ... it is merged !!!19:51
luzCjust merged... thanks for the comments and reviews19:51
mguiney\o/19:51
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catherineD#link     Add UI support for interop schema 2.0 (  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484625/ )19:51
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luzCstill on my todo list19:52
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luzCwill try to review later today19:52
catherineDpvaneck:'s patch is absolutely needed for schema 2.019:52
catherineDluzC: thanks19:52
catherineD#link     Update default Tempest version to tag 16.1.0 (July 10, 2017) (   https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491936/  )19:52
catherineDthis patch is to update refstack-client default tempest to 16.1.019:53
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catherineDplease review19:53
luzCit is in merge conflict after  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/483999/19:54
catherineDluzC: will fix it  ... thanks19:54
catherineD#topic Open discussion19:54
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catherineDanything else you want to discuss?19:55
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catherineDalright ...  thank you everyone for your contribution and commitment to the RefStack project ... we have worked hard on it ... and we can see our accomplisement today ..19:57
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catherineDhogepodge: will host the next RefStack IRC meeting ...19:57
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catherineDbye now!19:58
mguineyhave a good week, y'all!19:58
catherineD#endmeeting19:58
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